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Henry Sinclair, the Knights Templar, and the Holy Bloodline: A Chronology

9/4/2013

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My brief mention on Monday of online feuding over the Sinclair family’s DNA heritage certainly sparked quite a bit of conversation. One interesting question that arose asked who was responsible for proposing that the Sinclair family was part of the Holy Bloodline of Jesus and brought said bloodline to America in the Middle Ages when Henry I Sinclar, Earl of Orkney traveled to Nova Scotia in 1398. Steve St. Clair suggested the Masons, so I think it’s probably a good idea to lay out exactly how this modern myth came together. It involves several different threads which can be a bit difficult to follow. Therefore, I would like to try to lay them out as clearly as I can.

The three sections of the myth—the Holy Bloodline, Henry Sinclair’s voyage, and the Knights Templar—were originally separate and only gradually became conflated. Understanding this helps us to recognize just how fictitious this myth is.

Before we start, let me stipulate: There is not one single authentic medieval document that (a) confirms a Holy Bloodline of Jesus, (b) links Henry Sinclair to the Knights Templar, or (c) documents any voyage by Henry Sinclair to anywhere outside of Europe.

Holy Bloodline
The claim that Jesus and Mary Magdalene married and had children descends from a few strands:

First is a medieval claim by Peter Vaux of Cernay, who wrote that the Cathars blasphemously held that Mary Magdalene was Jesus’ concubine: “in their secret meetings they said that the Christ who was born in the earthly and visible Bethlehem and crucified at Jerusalem was 'evil', and that Mary Magdalene was his concubine” (Historia Albigensis, trans. W.A. & M.D. Sibly). This may or may not draw on the Gnostic tradition embodied in the Gospel of Philip that Jesus loved Mary above all other disciples and kissed her frequently on the mouth (63:34-36). This Gospel was lost to the West until 1945, when it was rediscovered in the Nag Hammadi corpus. Martin Luther and Brigham Young are both said to have concurred with the idea that Jesus and Mary had a sexual relationship, but I have not read the specific texts where they do so.

At another level, the Bloodline myth comes from the Gnostic heresy that Jesus survived the crucifixion (Irenaeus, Against Heresies 1.24.4; Second Treatise of the Great Seth), preserved in Islamic tradition and the Qur’an (4:157-158). From such claims Laurence Gardner asserted that Jesus survived the crucifixion to lead the Bloodline Dynasty.

These two ideas began to merge only in the 1960s and 1970s, when feminist scholars began investigating the life of Jesus for evidence of matriarchy, goddess worship, and early feminism. In those years, claims emerged that Mary had been an equal disciple with the men, or the best-loved disciple, or even a remnant of a faded goddess figure. These scholars tended to see the “Beloved Disciple” of the Gospel of John as Mary, read in light of recently-translated Gnostic texts like the Gospel of Philip. The journalist William E. Phipps popularized the subject in the 1970 book Was Jesus Married? His evidence was that there was no evidence; specifically, since the New Testament never states Jesus was not married, we must assume he was because all Jews married in those days and Jesus was a Jew, QED.

The newly-important position of Mary Magdalene allowed the authors of The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail to plausibly (or seemingly so) argue that Jesus had in fact married Mary.

Yet another strand of the story is a medieval French legend, from the eleventh century (first attested in the twelfth but best known from Petrus de Natalibus in the fifteenth century), that claimed that Mary Magdalene and Lazarus took up residence in Provence, where they converted all the people to Christianity and reigned over them with Lazarus as governing bishop—obviously untrue since Provence remained pagan and under Roman control for centuries after Mary Magdalene. This legend, scholars note, was used primarily to promote the idea that Vézelay held the relics of Mary Magdalene, the profits from which made it one of the richest abbeys in France. (In fact, by 1283 three different abbeys in France each claimed to have the corpse of Mary.) This, however, was merely a localized translation—conveniently right around the time of the Crusades—of the story from Modestus (Photius, Biblioteca 275) alluded to in Gregory of Tours (In gloria martyrum 1.30) that Mary Magdalene had gone to Ephesus to join St. John. Her tomb supposedly could be seen in Ephesus, in the hands of those perfidious Greeks. A Western tomb would be better, and medieval Church officials solemnly asserted that bones dug from French soil were in fact those of Mary.

But none of these legends speak of children, and thus not of any Holy Bloodline. There is, so far as my literature search uncovered, no published account of any two-thousand-year Holy Bloodline prior to 1982.

The Knights Templar and the Sinclairs
As you might guess, these threads only came together with The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail in 1982. The authors of that book, Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh and Henry Lincoln, pulled all this together and spun the story that the children of Jesus and Mary took up residence in France and became the ancestors of the Merovingian kings. In a few brief references, they tie this indirectly to the Sinclairs and the Knights Templar via the Priory of Sion, the fictitious organization invented by a delusional Frenchman in 1956. Here is how the authors summarize their findings, as derived primarily from Plantard:

1) There was a secret order behind the Knights Templar, which created the Templars as its military and administrative arm. This order, which has functioned under a variety of names, is most frequently known as the Prieure de Sion ("Priory of Sion"). 2) The Prieure de Sion has been directed by a sequence of Grand Masters whose names are among the most illustrious in Western history and culture. 3) Although the Knights Templar were destroyed and dissolved between 1307 and 1314, the Prieure de Sion remained unscathed. Although itself periodically torn by internecine and factional strife, it has continued to function through the centuries. Acting in the shadows, behind the scenes, it has orchestrated certain of the critical events in Western history. 4) The Prieure de Sion exists today and is still operative. It is influential and plays a role in high-level international affairs, as well as in the domestic affairs of certain European countries. To some significant extent it is responsible for the body of information disseminated since 1956. 5) The avowed and declared objective of the Prieure de Sion is the restoration of the Merovingian dynasty and bloodline to the throne not only of France, but to the thrones of other European nations as well. 6) The restoration of the Merovingian dynasty is sanctioned and justifiable, both legally and morally. Although deposed in the eighth century, the Merovingian bloodline did not become extinct. On the contrary it perpetuated itself in a direct line from Dagobert II and his son, Sigisbert IV. By dint of dynastic alliances and intermarriages, this line came to include Godfroi de Bouillon, who captured Jerusalem in 1099, and various other noble and royal families, past and present Blanchefort, Gisors, Saint Clair (Sinclair in England), Montesquieu, Montpezat, Poher, Luisignan, Plantard and Habsburg-Lorraine. At present, the Merovingian bloodline enjoys a legitimate claim to its rightful heritage.

The self-aggrandizing French faker who invented the Priory, Pierre Plantard, not only claimed to be the Great Monarch predicted by Nostradamus, but he also took the name “de Saint-Clair” in honor of his claims to Merovingian legitimacy, sparking claims of St. Clair/Sinclair special right to priority over the Habsburgs and other royal houses. But note: Plantard did not specify that the Sinclair family was any more or less holy than the other descendants of Dagobert.

However, it was Holy Blood and the Holy Grail that tied this Templar-Merovingian conspiracy to the Jesus Bloodline by introducing the claim that this medieval ménage descended from Jesus’ children; thus, “the Sinclair family in Britain is also allied to the bloodline.” This was somewhat indirect, of course, since Plantard wanted the French St. Clair family to be the more direct recipients of the Merovingian inheritance. To connect the Scottish Sinclairs, the authors looked at alleged evidence at Rosslyn Chapel, which, being built by a Sinclair, thus reinforced the idea of a Sinclair connection to the Holy Bloodline.

I can find no published claim of a Sinclair relationship to the Holy Bloodline prior to 1982.

Note that the Holy Bloodline authors didn’t say anything about discovering America.

Henry Sinclair and America
Henry Sinclair, Earl of Orkney, became tied to an imaginary voyage to America in four steps.

First, in 1558 Nicolò Zeno of Venice published a hoax account of his ancestors’ voyage to Greenland in the company of a fictional North Sea prince named Zichmni. For many centuries, this hoax was accepted as true (and may have a very loose connection to a real North Sea voyage to Scotland of the 1380s) and led to claims by Venetian partisans that the Zeno family had navigated the Atlantic before Columbus, of rival Genoa, when advocates tried to identify Zeno’s Greenland with Norse settlements in Vinland and other North American locations.

Second, in 1784 Johann Reinhold Forster, German-born scion of an exiled Scottish noble family, identified Zichmni with Henry I Sinclair, Earl of Orkney in a footnote to his History of the Voyages and Discoveries Made in the North, on the evidence that the territories Zichmni was said to have visited or conquered shared names similar to those of the Orkneys, which Henry ruled. (This is because Zeno had used reports from the region in creating his hoax.)

Third, in 1875 Richard Henry Major translated the Zeno text into English and incorporated Forster’s offhand identification as his guiding light, producing a massive brief in favor of the Sinclair hypothesis. From this, Thomas Sinclair, a descendant of Henry, claimed in 1892 that his ancestor had discovered America before that upstart Italian Columbus, against whose Italian kinsmen he wanted the United States to discriminate to support white supremacy. This claim was systematically refuted by Fred W. Lucas in 1898, but to little notice.

Fourth, in a series of works from the 1950s to the 1970s Frederick J. Pohl began to identify the Zeno narrative’s Greenland with Nova Scotia in Canada (by mistakenly tying a description of Icelandic volcanoes that Zeno had transferred to Greenland to a modern mining area in Nova Scotia), tying now fully-developed myth of Henry Sinclair to a specific location in North America, prompting claims of a Sinclair relationship to Oak Island, alleged “medieval” ruins in the area, and so on. Pohl claimed that Zichmni was Sinclair because Italians had bad handwriting and the words looked similar if you squint.

Henry Sinclair and the Templars
Now that Sinclair had been placed in America (on the strength of a hoax and some extrapolations from it), he could easily become conflated with parallel claims made for the Newport Tower, a colonial windmill in Rhode Island which since 1839 had been claimed as a piece of medieval European architecture. Because it had similarities (perceived, anyway) to Cistercian architecture (specifically Mellifont Abbey in Ireland), advocates of the Knights Templar claimed (on the basis of one dubious piece of coerced testimony from a former Templar that some Templars fled from French forces by ship) that a Cistercian-Templar conspiracy resulted in the windmill’s construction. Similarly, the alleged Westford Knight—a rough carving in Massachusetts first attributed to Native Americans and then Vikings—was later claimed as a depiction of a Sinclair companion, of a Templar, or both. In 2001, Christopher Knight simply asserted that Sinclair was himself a secret Templar, many decades after the order was suppressed.

This came about only because conspiracy theorists had already tied the Sinclairs to a Freemason conspiracy via alleged Masonic symbolism in Rosslyn Chapel and the participation of Sinclairs at the origins of Scottish Rite Freemasonry. (A man named William St. Clair was the first Grand Master, but this was in 1736, many centuries too late for our purposes; claims of earlier involvement dating to the 1400s were invented in the 1800s out of thin air.) By the transitive property of pseudoscience, the Victorian allegation (no older than the nineteenth century) that the Knights Templar gave rise to Freemasonry retroactively made the Sinclair family not just Masons but also Templars—even though trial records show that Sinclair family members testified against the Templars at their trial. The Templar-Freemason connection, in turn, sprang from Andrew Michael Ramsay, who in 1737 claimed that the Masons descended from the Knights of St. John and had built Solomon’s Temple. In the 1800s, the Templars were swapped in for the Knights of St. John to better harmonize with Solomon’s Temple, and two of the Holy Blood authors developed the Freemasons as an essential part of the Holy Bloodline conspiracy in The Temple and the Lodge (1989), after having introduced the topic in Holy Blood.

Thus, conspiracy theorists assigned the Holy Grail and/or the Ark of the Covenant to Henry Sinclair, as his Templar-Freemason patrimony, carried to Scotland from the Temple Mount!

Putting It Together
All of this comes together with Andrew Sinclair, whose 1992 book The Sword and the Grail: The Story of the Grail, the Templars and the True Discovery of America put all these various threads into one giant stew and bequeathed the modern myth of Henry I Sinclair as a Templar of the Holy Bloodline who discovered America to hide the Holy Grail. This “ancient” myth is just 21 years old. Prior to Andrew Sinclair, the various parts were not connected. Since not a single one of these parts has any evidence in its favor, the composite story is consequently even more false than any of its component parts.

105 Comments
Al West link
9/4/2013 08:15:17 am

A fascinating genealogy. What boggles my mind is just how many people throughout the process must have realized that what they were saying was lies, and yet continued to say it anyway. But that's true of all pseudo-history, I guess.

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Mila
9/4/2013 09:06:46 am

"A fascinating genealogy." Do you really believe those novelists? What about getting serious and studying scholars. Jason loves fantasy………otherwise he would be bored to death writing about pseudo history. lol

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Al West link
9/4/2013 09:33:20 am

I meant that it was a fascinating genealogy of the *story*, not of the Sinclairs - as in, where the myths and bullshit came together to give birth to this nonsense about holy bloodlines and so forth.

Al West link
9/4/2013 09:33:34 am

I meant that it was a fascinating genealogy of the *story*, not of the Sinclairs - as in, where the myths came together to give birth to this nonsense about holy bloodlines and so forth.

Marie link
11/2/2017 07:51:36 am

Lol INDEED, had to tell him too to get himself informed . Lots more has been found poss related to the Templars in one of their ancient headquarters , check the website , Ciao

Vance Lee Frier
3/27/2019 10:04:27 pm

The only thing that holds true in any sense was -

The Sinclairs met in southern France on a Crist Offering to the Holy land and the Sinclairs stayed about 100 soldiers to await there until their return.
When the SInclairs did return they hurried back to Scotland and raised a small army to return to the south of France where they took over or built a large Monastery or palace that they occupied for over 600 years and it is believed that they sheltered Jesus' family there thru many generations. That the Scottish Descendants are intermarried with the town people of the region. I don't think that all the dates could ever be put together after so long. But the Sinclair family that stayed in France over time took on the French spelling of their name.
I also wonder about one of the Sinclairs being the Viking that found America............ But someone did. And some one kept Mary and Mary Magdalene and several of Jesus' brothers and sisters safe and their line for hundreds of years. We will never know.

Dennis Blond
1/30/2017 10:39:29 am

Okay the story about the holy blood line is true
Kings of the blood BLOND
Princess of the blod (half princes) le blond

The royal line of le blond is blond.

Blond is divine

Okay you will figure the rest out.

Okay here's a clue more Denmark rape the holy spirit

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Steve
5/10/2017 11:02:33 pm

Just found out recently that my 15th great grandfather was Henry stclair grandmaster Knights of Templar have to admit what I've looked up on him and st Clair bloodline has got me in awe

Steve
5/10/2017 11:23:07 pm

Sorry Henry st Clair was my 18th great grandfather

Marie link
11/2/2017 07:53:16 am

Mmmm....... interesting are u on medication

Michael Saint Joseph IV link
4/3/2019 05:15:35 pm

The Saint Clairs did fight in the crusades and there is enough proff to show it...but they wont dare tell you becuase that person would go missing in an hour for the fact he would be a very powerful man..thats why alll of the Middle Ages Popes tried to kill them even Mary Magdalene and that their son was named Judah..and i could teach a class on this..my family landed in america in the 1300s.like most French people did at the time..and now its fact Colombus didnt do anything but follow a Templars map..and ships?go back and find the pictures of hes boats..all flaying both Templar flags..

Marie link
11/2/2017 07:49:31 am

Very interesting may I suggest u take a look at this www.5edimension.weebly.com

More infos on you tube as it seems you need digging up a bit more , you are on the right track tho....Salut

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Willa
7/13/2018 06:56:25 pm

I was doing some genealogy of my paternal lineage and found Henry Sinclair is my 17th Great Grandfather. Only anecdotal info I can add is that, what I have seen from his descendants in my tree is that the families landing point in North America was Nova Scotia

Laurie Mattson
11/23/2018 01:59:58 am

Sir Henry Sinclair was My 21st great grandfather . It's amazing how so many people are intertwined.

christina
5/22/2019 12:27:30 am

I am descended also from Prince Henry, but also from Christopher Columbus. When I was growing up I was told that I was from Royal blood. That my brother was the last in the line and if he didn't have a boy that our line would be no more. All of that, I found in time, was true. Our family is very secretive. For good reason. On the surface everything looks normal, but underneath my father and I have carried a great secret. We were involved in something when I was little that involved highest level people. I knew things that I didn't understand at first. The answers to the questions. For me, it was merely coming across the right questions.
The funniest thing is exactly how truth can be wrapped up in imagination. There is a Holy Bloodline, but not Mary Magdalene. Jesus had no children. I know the answer to the secret and why it was so important to keep secret. It has been staring everyone in the face in Bible prophecy for 2 thousand years. They couldn't tell, because it is sealed by God until the Last Days. No one is allowed under God to reveal what is sealed. No one is worthy. It is about so much more than you thought. Soon. Very soon. Everyone will know the truth. God will reveal it. It is destiny. Thousands of years in the making and you will all behold it. They have never been able to put it all together themselves. They have been looking, but they never could lay their hands on the one thing they were looking for so they could destroy it. When I saw what the Knights were up to I could see it. I knew from my life what they were really hiding. A Great Revelation. What they were doing had absolutely nothing to do with Goddess worship. What they knew was so important that it was best to let history believe what it wanted. So it chose Mary Magdalene to try to explain the deal with the woman. Sure did throw everyone off good. Great distraction.

Carla
3/6/2018 08:35:57 pm

The writer of this article, has either researched nothing, been very unfortunate on following the facts and historical evidence by way of common since and connections, or is a fos coverup artist just as the ones that have been hiding all the truths. Fear not though. Truth when it crushes you like a avalanche, becomes much easier to accept. Look out!

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Vance Frier
5/13/2019 09:28:45 am

The Catholic Church has ruled France since Constantine created the Pope and the Catholic Church in the late 1200's and early 1300's. This writer says there are zero documents on Jesus having a family? The Church holds back the books of James ( Jesus' brother and their Mother Mary. Does he deny that Jesus had a brother? That he and Mary Magdalene lived together and married or not she played a huge roll in Jesus' faked death?
I just learned this year that Jesus was nailed to the cross and they placed the cross upside down saying he was not worthy to be placed as high on the cross as the common thieves. The one single thing that leads to the death of anyone on the cross is the position of how he is put on the cross. It pushes his chest down and robs one of breath that leads to death, not the hanging it's self. By putting him upside down this lack of Oxygen would not have happened and he would have survived until dark when he could be moved to a hiding place. Also the cross being placed in the grown upside down would have made it much easier to get him off the cross with no one seeing.
it's easy to put dates together and St Clair's ties with the Knights Templar and the St Clairs traveling to the middle east and back that their association with the Templars would be a simple one to get Jesus and his family out of the middle east and safe in the fortress in the south of France.

Dennis
7/3/2018 12:17:44 pm

I just wasted 10 minutes of my life reading that non-sense

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Van Frier
2/6/2020 01:53:49 pm

I'm sorry it took you ten minutes to read what one can read in a minute. I wrote it in lass than three.
Do you deny that in the dead sea scrolls that there was the books of James, his mother and Mary Magnalene?
In the old testament, God says we are all as he, that we all are his children.
If you believe Jesus was his only son or just a profit, is it so unbelievable that he could not have had children on his own.
The bones of what the church says is Jesus' mother Mary, the pelvic area has lines in it that every woman has that has a child, and the bones have nine lines saying if these are her bones that she had 9 children.. Good day

Scott Hamilton
9/4/2013 10:33:45 am

What cracks me up is how huge that the leap from "Zimichi" to "Sinclair" is. Can anyone really argue that it could have been recorded so wrong? Even if the Zenos and Sinclair didn't speak the same language, surely they must have shared the same alphabet, and would have exchanged names via writing!

I also wonder what the Holy Bloodline people expect to happen. Do they really think any amount of scholarship will change the Catholic Church and/or Christianity in general into a feminist enterprise? Do they not understand that Christian dogma ignores and invents scripture as needed? You could find the tomb of Jesus Christ with a signed document explaining that he made it all up, dated to the right period, and Christians would be just as Christian after the find as before. It's not his real body, it was a contemporary prank, the ascension was spiritual not physical, whatever. How they'd rationalize it is details. The epic rationalizations between the Old and New Testaments are enough to prove it wouldn't be a huge problem.

Is there a name for the logical fallacy of the kind you mention for the "proof with no proof" of Jesus' marriage? The Fallacy of No Exceptions?

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Varika
9/4/2013 11:54:58 am

I used to think that "Zimichi" to "Sinclair" was a pretty huge leap, myself, but then I started dealing with Ancestry.com. I have an ancestor named Fred who somehow got renamed "West" thanks to the OCR algorithm. And I've really started to understand, from looking at the hand-written census documents, how someone can screw up writing down a name and then how someone else later can read something COMPLETELY different than what was written down.

If I were inclined to give Forster the benefit of the doubt, I would say that would be what had happened--that HE, looking at a hand-written copy of a handwritten document, saw what he wanted to see in an illegible scrawl. Or, possibly--much like the non-English-speaking lady at this one bakery--the typesetter didn't read the language he was printing (or at all, possibly) and just put what he thought it was. BTW, google "Falker Satherhood" to see what I mean.

I'm not particularly inclined to give the man the benefit of the doubt, so I tend to think that he found something he could twist to make himself feel better by having a huge fish tale, instead. But at least I understand better, after doing some of my own primary-source research (however aided by computer), how one COULD come to the conclusion.

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Thane
9/4/2013 12:50:56 pm

The word you are looking for is "Faith" and I suspect that believers from any religion are just as likely as Christians to cling to their belief system even in the face of facts that contradict dogma.

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Marie link
11/2/2017 07:54:55 am

True

Jason Colavito link
9/4/2013 01:40:32 pm

The Zichmni-Sinclair claim is certainly one of the most outlandish, and it is very difficult to imagine how anyone could mistake one for the other. That's why Forster's idea didn't go over well. Pohl, by contrast, claimed that Sinclair went by the name "d'Orkney" ("of Orkney") and that the Zeno's handwriting was so bad that the d'O looked like Z and that the Italians would have used "ch" for "k" and "i" for "y," yielding Zrchni, which was mistakenly copied as Zichni and thus Zichmni.

There is no evidence in support of any of this, least the idea that Henry introduced himself as Henri d'Orkney when he went by the legal name Henricus de Santo Claro in all other documents and would have communicated with his Italian visitors in Latin (in fact the Zeno narrative said Zichmni spoke Italian and was an Italian!).

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TIMOTHY CARL JONES
3/14/2018 04:00:07 am

But, Scott... There are Sin St. Clair's surnames which are mistakenly misspelled as: "zinkler, sinkler, and so on."

Prime Source documents verified and certified digitally are best to keep truth from being wrongly "encoded," by those wishing to change the meaning of a term or group to one that is misinterpreted and mistaken -- so commonly overlooked.

Hidden in plain sight... Cherokee, for example. The Little Carpenters. Who sing in Hebrew as a native tongue... The lost tribe of Gad parallel perhaps? Since it is an oral history traditionally, hardly any documents are known-of to prove anything - but this is changing...

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Dan D
9/4/2013 11:18:49 am

Whew! Not one mention of Scott Wolter or AU in this interesting post. Perhaps we can get thru the comments without a stone being tossed accusing Jason of SW envy.(and going to hell).







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Only Me
9/4/2013 12:23:51 pm

You just jinxed it. Prepare yourselves.

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Thane
9/4/2013 12:48:45 pm

>> The Templar-Freemason connection, in turn, sprang from Andrew Michael Ramsay, who in 1737 claimed that the Masons descended from the Knights of St. John and had built Solomon’s Temple. In the 1800s, the Templars were swapped in for the Knights of St. John to better harmonize with Solomon’s Temple, <<

And it could be that since the Knights of St. John still exists and could refute any nonsense, it was easier to invoke the Knights Templar.

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Steve St. Clair
9/4/2013 01:06:45 pm

You're absolutely right, Thane. It was Ramsay. I have a ton of books on the origins of all this, but I'm reluctant to dig back into them. There is so little real evidence of anything suspicious.

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Gunn
9/4/2013 02:26:54 pm

Jason, thanks for all the hard work you put into this particular blog. It clears a lot up. The only thing I wonder about, now, is about how the Rosslyn Chapel seems to bridge a gap between Templars and Freemasons. St. Clairs are involved somehow in this gap, so even after destroying any Jesus bloodline connection to the Sinclairs, we still seem to have a Templar/Sinclair/Freemason connection. But again, this is because of the symbolism exhibited at Rosslyn Chapel.

You say: "By the transitive property of pseudoscience, the Victorian allegation (no older than the nineteenth century) that the Knights Templar gave rise to Freemasonry retroactively made the Sinclair family not just Masons but also Templars...."

I'm glad to see how you pretty much systematically destroyed the Jesus bloodline myth, going way back. Of course the book of Philip was not canonized, which to most Christians means the contents do not fit in with the established version. Most Christians think God had something to do with the final version of the Bible, though of course much is up in the air for translation and meaning.

I find it rather bizarre that the Knights Templar would have slaughtered so many French citizens, Christians, over ideology, just before their collapse. What would they have expected from God after performing this slaughter? Before this, there was a slaughter of Jews in a grab for wealth by a French King. Finally, came the downfall of the Templars and grab for their wealth.

I watched a program tonight about how Columbus was probably Spanish, not Italian. Apparently, he never corresponded in Italian, even with his brothers, but rather in Spanish. It seems he became very religious while young, after floating around at sea for a few weeks in open water. Not long before dying, he was interested in re-building the Temple. Based on his signature and ship's sail design, some think he may have been a proto-post-Templar of sorts, especially because of his wife's connection to Templars. Spanish, Italian, who cares, right?

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Thane
9/5/2013 01:42:41 am

Questions:

You commented: "I find it rather bizarre that the Knights Templar would have slaughtered so many French citizens, Christians, over ideology, just before their collapse. What would they have expected from God after performing this slaughter? Before this, there was a slaughter of Jews in a grab for wealth by a French King. Finally, came the downfall of the Templars and grab for their wealth"

To which events are you referring?

I've read a lot about the Templars (In pursuit of medieval history, not conspiracy stuff) and don't recall the Templars slaughtering the French. In addition, while there were anti-Jewish pogroms in various places in Europe through the Middle Ages, the most famous being the massacre at York durring the reign of Richard the Lionheart. Richard did not order it and when he heard about it, had his chancellor mete our punishment to the ringleaders. However, most people tightly link Richard with the Templars and conflate nearly everything Richard did with some level of Templar involvement.

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Gunn
9/5/2013 03:39:14 am

http://www.cathar.info/

"The Pope, Innocent III, called a formal Crusade against the Cathars of the Languedoc, appointing a series of military leaders to head his Holy Army. The first was a Cistercian abbot (Arnaud Amaury) now best remembered for his command at Béziers "Kill them all. God will know his own". The second was Simon de Montfort now remembered as the father of another Simon de Montfort, a prominent figure in English parliamentary history. The war against the Cathars of the Languedoc continued for two generations. In the later phases the Kings of France would take over as leaders of the crusade, which thus became a Royal Crusade."

This French crusade against French Christians occurred a bit earlier than I had thought. Jews, too, had been persecuted and stolen from before King Philip the Fair turned against the Templars.

Al West link
9/5/2013 05:40:50 am

'French Christians'? The Cathars? Well, I suppose they were Christians according to their own view of what Christianity was, but since they believed in a cosmic dualism, and two gods, one good, one evil, it is hard to say that they were Christians as we would recognise them now. Mormonism is a more recognisable branch of Christianity than the Cathar 'heresy'.

Thane
9/5/2013 01:53:03 pm

Oh! The Cathers! I never think of the Cathers as Christians but as Al West pointed out, I suppose they considered themselves Christians but they were dualists and considered the physical incarnation of Jesus as "evil".

As regards the Knights Templar, while the Albigensian Crusade was a crusade, it wasn't a "Templar thing" though Templar knights may have participated. I don't know. It was, however, a "Papal thing". While the reasons were nominally religious, the war against the Cathers was really about power politics.

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Gunn
9/6/2013 06:53:49 am

I agree that the reasons were religious, as a threat to the Pope...a threat to established doctrine. It became political, especially as wealth could be stolen.

Mormons...Catholics, Cathars, Jehovah's Witnesses, fundamentalists...

What does it take to become a Christian?

What does it take to be saved?

It may help to see that, in faith, Abraham was willing to sacrifice his own son. This served as a model for people everywhere on earth to understand that God, too, was willing to sacrifice His own Son. This is hard to understand, right? I would venture to guess that in "ancient" times, the concept was easier to understand, since sacrifices were a common practice.

Abraham acted out of faith. Christians act on faith, too, on a "one-time" sacrifice. We--millions-strong--believe that Jesus willingly died for our sins, so that we could have an opportunity for a better and fuller life, here and hereafter.

If the Cathars believed that Jesus was the Son of God in the flesh and they looked to Him as their Savior, what separated them from God? The Pope? The basics of Salvation aren't complicated. It only gets complicated when doctrine gets in the way, for whatever reason/s.

Christians killing Christians over doctrine is not good, to go full-circle on this. It happened in medieval France, was my thought to share, above, though it also occurred in Spain, at the time of Columbus, via the Inquisition. Reminders of Dubya.

Al West link
9/7/2013 01:14:11 am

"If the Cathars believed that Jesus was the Son of God in the flesh..."

They sort of did. They believed that the entire material world was evil, and that behind the evil world lay an immaterial spiritual world of goodness. So while they did see Jesus as 'the Son of God in the flesh', the fleshiness of the incarnation made him, well, *evil*. Combined with the dualistic view of god - one god, the evil one, created the material world we live in, and the other, the good one, created the spiritual world - it is hard to see how this fits into a Christian framework at all. It might be better to see the Cathars as inspired by Christianity than as a part of it.

"Christians killing Christians over doctrine is not good"

Can't we rephrase that? People killing people is not good.

Janvs
4/3/2016 12:54:48 am

You do realize/know the knight templars are luciferian? Death is great energy to them and their master

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Sinclair
9/4/2013 04:44:41 pm

Jason said

Putting It Together
All of this comes together with Andrew Sinclair, whose 1992 book The Sword and the Grail: The Story of the Grail, the Templars and the True Discovery of America put all these various threads into one giant stew and bequeathed the modern myth of Henry I Sinclair as a Templar of the Holy Bloodline who discovered America to hide the Holy Grail. This “ancient” myth is just 21 years old. Prior to Andrew Sinclair, the various parts were not connected. Since not a single one of these parts has any evidence in its favor, the composite story is consequently even more false than any of its component parts.

I can tell you who the most recent people are who have carried on this story. Maybe their is some truth to these stories but I choose not to believe them, well I hold out for maybe a possible Templar connection.

Anyway you mention Andrew Sinclair the author. Andrew has been behind a lot of this along with his cousin Niven Sinclair ( Steves friend and funder ) also Tim Wallace Murphy Author. Seems odd they all know each other well, and are masons and some claim Templar. Oh and Niven and I think Tim even travelled to the Oak Island treasure pit ( now apparently the Templar treasure ) a few years ago and met with some of the Sinclairs in Nova Scotia. As I have said books,movies money. Niven is one of the biggest believers or spreaders of theae tales. Steve was spewing info about Niven being a Sinclair with the best genealogy record going way back to ,well almost the beginning. Hmmm his dna does not match with the family he has listed in it...and thats a fact so his family tree is totally wrong....sorry getting off subjet again. But please do note the connections of all these people.

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Laurie Herbert
1/9/2017 08:49:00 pm

Hello,
My great grandparents were Charlotte Calder Sinclair and Andrew Sinclair born 1830 in Lappan, Caithness.
I happened across this blog in error, but since I'm here...I'm just wondering if there any other Sinclair's out there (except Nevin )

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Sidney Clouston
1/30/2017 11:13:01 am

I have talked to Nevin a few years ago. He suggested that I get the book called The Clouston Family by J. Storer Clouston who went to Magdalene College at Oxford University. Joseph was invited to be a Barrister at the Royal Court at the Inner-Temple Court which has still the Templar Buttery integrated into the building. He declined to be a Historian and Author where one book was made into a Hollywood movie. He also wrote the above mentions book. Clouston is a "Sept" (major branch) of the family Sinclair. I understand that I am as a Sept enabled to wear the Tartan of the Sinclair. A link to the Knights Templar is interesting too. I was a Finance Major in college and I am working with Muslims in Nigeria for Sustainable Development. Both the Finance (Banks Stocks and Bonds) and being a Martial Artist with a Black Belt in Okinawan Shorin Ryu Karate as well as being an Ex-Paratrooper with a Combat Infantry Badge and Purple Heart, makes me feel a little affinity with those noble Knights. In any case we can develop a spiritual relationship with God by Jesus especially by following Matthew 25: 31-46. Goodbye for now.

DnaSinclair
3/30/2021 01:54:23 am

This is all so much. I am DNA match to four Sinclair's on a certain site. My grandmother's family escaped from Scotland/Europe/middle east. My father's line was German/Viking. One of my have ancestors of India married a member of an army(royal army?) And their descendants eventually ended up where I was born. I have had more questions about my child hood and family that I have researched myself because everything was always such a secret. I am now in a very unfortunate circumstance of persecution by my ex's very catholic family. They are witholding my children from me in a nasty court battle and I've discovered they have some interesting "connections" secrets, and have made awful accusations of my character. So I can understand how this Sinclair story is so tragic, hopeful and gives rise to the protectors and heroines we all want to believe in during times of trial. But a secret bloodline? Why? I'm skeptical.

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CFC
9/5/2013 12:09:02 am

A very well done chronology Jason and thanks to Sinclair for explaining more about the cast of characters involved in the telling of these tall tales.

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Sinclair
9/5/2013 02:45:45 am

The Gang at Oak Island, Mary Hopkins another participant in the story
http://sinclair.quarterman.org/pictures/robc/OakIsland.00.01.html

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CFC
9/5/2013 04:20:22 am

Thanks for the link to the photo.

Steve StC
2/13/2016 10:25:18 pm

CFC, like so many acolytes here, loves anyone who hates those who despise Colavito. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Thus, he praises Drako "Sinclair" for "explaining more about the cast of characters involved in the telling of these tall tails." Except they are not all "tall tails" CFC, or whoever the hell you are among all of Colavito's anonymous acolytes. Also, Colavito has not even come close to chronicling the story of the Saint-Clairs' involvement with the Knights Templar. For that you need to study the work of researchers who don't rely on their stubby fingers and their keyboards as they type queries into Google Search like Jason Colavito. Here's my work. Check my sources - http://www.stclairresearch.com/content/Sinclair-Templar-Proof.html

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Gunn
9/5/2013 03:58:27 am

About pride over surnames:

Columbus. Christopher Columbus. Now, let's suppose good ole Gunn had been adopted into a family named Columbus.

Hi Gunn Columbus! Say, why are you spending so much time researching about Christopher? He was just a man, you know.

Gunn: Well, in honor of Christopher...and in honor of the name I'm a family member of, though adopted into, I choose to hone in on this person and family of interest. I'm interested in the Columbus family name and in the Columbus genealogy. I enjoy studying DNA, and I enjoy studying genealogy...yes, I suppose because I'm a Columbus, with a Spanish heart, through and through. (And who did you say you were, again?)

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Al West link
9/5/2013 05:58:51 am

Columbus was a native of Genoa and donated a tenth of all of his earnings to funds for the poor in his home city. He wasn't Spanish. It's true that, for most of his adult life, he used the name 'Colon', but he was nevertheless a Ligurian.

And being proud of your surname is as ridiculous and dumb as being proud of your nationality, birthplace, complexion, or any other arbitrary happenstance. A man today with the same surname as Colon/Columbus/Colombo has no stronger connection with the navigator than I do, and no more or less of a reason to find out about him.

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Sinclair
9/5/2013 01:01:49 pm

http://www.alastairhamilton.com/sinclair.htm

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Sinclair
9/5/2013 01:05:17 pm

http://www.novascotiaparks.ca/parks/boylston.asp

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Sinclair
9/5/2013 01:10:58 pm

Another dna missmatch to Sinclairs

A self appointed Knight Templar

http://www.caithnesshost.co.uk/phsc/welcome.htm

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Sinclair
9/5/2013 01:14:34 pm

I see Andrew Sinclair being knighted by Ian into the Templars ?????

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Steve StC
2/13/2016 10:28:30 pm

Robbie "Sinclair" is such an ass. You posed with Ian Sinclair up in Caithness and still have it posted on your Hatebook page you asshole.

Donald Sinclair
12/24/2013 11:47:30 am

All a genuine Sinclair needs to know is the religion of his opposition, then all is revealed. We have been doing it for thousands of years !!!

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Red
5/12/2014 09:23:08 am

You actually think that what these authors wrote wasn't somewhat accurate. Have you even read the book, because I have and the authors do no make any claims that the stuff that they wrote is accurate or true. They want people to open their minds and think outside of the box of the what could have possibly happened. The fact that many of you are probably Christians and are so brain washed by religious ideology just proves that anything written about the story of Jesus being even remotely different then what you know of it just proves that you have no imagination and will not get far in life.

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nopers
3/2/2016 02:22:27 am

Come on man what are you talking about!! Everyone knows that Jesus was born from a virgin, died and resurrected! He died for our sins because a snake tempted a girl to eat from an apple and now we are all sinners somehow. Jeeeeezzzz to think that there are people that would challenge that. You are one of the crazy ones out there sir!

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ForestDark
10/6/2014 12:13:07 am

And never mind the elephant in the closet of course.That elephant being the fact that there is absolutely no historical records of that particular Jesus existing whatsoever. All I have seen and read so far points to sketchy American Sinclairs/Saint Clairs trying desperately to promote their myth and change historical "facts".

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ForestDark
10/6/2014 12:33:46 am

Given the fact that america is one of the least educated and most fanatically religious countries in the world, I'm not surprised. The two usually go hand in hand.

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penny waters
8/2/2015 12:01:30 am

I like to think that jesus got away. I like to think that he had a life after trying to convince people to care for each other. I think he was a bloke whose energetics/kundalinin was apparent from a very early age and so had a big heart, but like many men he thought he could change the world of people. try to get everyone to agree at the same time - that's a laugh! as a switched on female I am tired of men trying to be top dog and women attaching themselves to what they see as a powerful man. we are at the mercy of all that out there - you know the rest of the universe - that which can obliterate us within a moment. so we make up tales to hide from the fact that humans were meant to come and go - we are not as necessary as we think.

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ForestDark
9/2/2015 04:04:39 pm

Forte Est Vinum, Fortior Est Rex, Fortiores Sunt Mulieres: Super Omnia Vincit Veritas. Science, Reason and Truth above Fantasy.
Lets open our eyes to what Homo Sapiens really are: Just another species fighting against extinction, like all the rest. Sans god.

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ForestDark
9/2/2015 04:17:16 pm

And what you've said is so true, but man's time of dominating women and nature is coming to a close. They had better be holding on to what ba**s they have left because "Hell hath no fury as a woman scorned, nor heaven a rage, as love to hatred turned".

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JaredMithrandir link
9/21/2015 08:54:17 pm

"even though trial records show that Sinclair family members testified against the Templars at their trial."

I've like the detail of this situation, what did they say and why were they asked to testify. Because rather then being evidence against a connection it sounds to me like the only reason to bring in suck random nobles is if they have inside information on the order.

And I imagine during this Witch hunt a lot of people were forced or brides to testify against the Templars who were at heart always sympathetic to them.

So no, it's gonna take more then a random anecdotal incident of testifying against them to debunk a connection. Them playing no role in the history at all were be a better rebuttal of Conspiracy theorists claims.

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ForestDark
11/8/2015 06:27:25 pm

Regardless of whether they were Templars or not, it's a meaningless endeavor. A lot of families were Templars, it hardly makes them gods. The effigy of William Sinclair at Roslin chapel that says he was a Templar was carbon dated to the 18th century I believe. The only thing that really matters is where they kept their treasure and how I can get my greedy little hands on it. :]

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Steve StC
2/13/2016 10:32:58 pm

JaredMithrandir, the Sinclairs also testified on behalf of the same Templar that Colavito so gleefully marches up to trash our family. The Saint-Clairs were involved with the founding members of the Knights Templar - http://www.stclairresearch.com/content/Sinclair-Templar-Proof.html

Colavito's fat fingers on his sweaty keyboard cannot use Google Search to find the real history of such families.

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charlotte bullen
11/4/2015 07:17:28 am

Hi my name is Charlotte Bullen some of my family have got paper work that me and my family are in the bloodline of Jesus family

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ForestDark
11/8/2015 06:17:35 pm

And I've got paperwork that says me and my family are the bloodline of the Holy Titans. LOL. First you'll need to prove that there was such a person as Jesus. (Mythological books don't count, where science and genetics are concerned) Then, you'll have to have his DNA (from 2000 years ago, good luck with that) to compare with every Y DNA in your family. Nice fantasy though.

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Nopers
3/2/2016 03:02:49 am

Woah woah woah, hold up! So what you are telling me is that millions of people never actually existed because we have ZERO documentations on them? So if a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it the tree doesn't make a noise? I probably come from a family that has no significant people in the past so therefore my ancestors didn't even exist?

wkennedy
12/11/2015 01:33:37 pm

at one point I connected my middle name Stuart to Bonnie Prince Charlie [due to something I heard as a child] Later when JFK [ in that time family line was traced from the mother and Gweneddy was very close to Welsh spellings]was said to be descendant from King Arthur I noted his lineage was Irish and mine was Scottish. Now since Christ escaped to N.Scotland he and his followers might have been connected to or been "Arthur" At that point I was connected to the true King of England AND Christ. When accused of being anti Semitic I replied that since I might be Jewish [the King actually] that was impossible. Anyway I still wonder about it all. Oh currently the Prime Minister of Canada 's mother is a Sinclair he and his younger brother were both born different years on Dec. 25th.???

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ForestDark
12/15/2015 11:16:35 pm

Sorry, but the myth of King Arthur is just that; a myth, taken from a Welsh poem. No such person as Guinevere either, or Robin Hood or Hansel and Gretal. Or dragons. Christ' came from yet another myth, which in turn came from another. Ever heard of the Sumerian Scriptures. You should, their the oldest scriptures ever found and a myth as well. Their scriptures were blatantly plagiarized to create the bible, which is just a branch of the Jewish religion anyways. The Isis Creed is another myth. The only thing that matters is that we all came out of Africa, then spread out in this world. Neanderthals, Homo Sapiens, all Hominids. All of us. Evolution baby. So if you really need something to feel special about, it should be that your ancestors survived Saber toothed tigers, starvation, plagues and battles in spite of the insanity that obviously plagues mankind. And no, Margaret Sinclair/Trudeau is not the daughter of jesus christ but she is bi-polar though and her son is super hot. :]

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9/5/2016 09:36:17 pm

I recently had my DNA test and it came back that I am a descendant of Mary Madeline ancestor.com

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11/3/2016 03:38:37 pm

Coleman Name MeaningIrish: Anglicized form of Gaelic Ó Colmáin ‘descendant of Colmán’. This was the name of an Irish missionary to Europe, generally known as St. Columban (c.540–615), who founded the monastery of Bobbio in northern Italy in 614. With his companion St. Gall, he enjoyed a considerable cult throughout central Europe, so that forms of his name were adopted as personal names in Italian (Columbano), French (Colombain), Czech (Kollman), and Hungarian (Kálmán). From all of these surnames are derived. In Irish and English, the name of this saint is identical with diminutives of the name of the 6th-century missionary known in English as St. Columba (521–97), who converted the Picts to Christianity, and who was known in Scandinavian languages as Kalman.

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Sidney Clouston
1/9/2017 02:54:17 pm

http://www.masonicnetwork.org/blog/history/the-knights-templar-rosslyn-and-scotland/comment-page-1/#comment-13755


Sidney Clouston on January 9, 2017
   
Hello. Thank you for the interesting article. My family name is Clouston, which is a ‘Sept” (major branch) of the family Sinclair. I am a member of The Ancient and Mystical Order Rosæ Crucis (AMORC). I understand that there is a Rosicrucian Degree in the Freemason order. It is a bit strange to say that I am an Ex-Paratrooper and Black Belt in Okinawan Shorin Ryu Karate. My major in college was Finance and that I am working for humanitarian goals in Nigeria Africa with Muslims. We favor renewable energy but also Carbon Capture and Utilization as well as Sequestration. I discuss with my friends the Spiritual Mandate from Isa al Masih (Jesus the Messiah) found in Matthew 25: 31 – 46. It is strange too that I had facilitated the planting of Switchgrass in Nigeria (in Nepal too) which is not very good for Goats to eat, but OK for Cattle. We are looking at the Sahel an area for herds in the arid grassland. Switchgrass is a feedstock for Cellulosic Ethanol a renewable fuel replacement for fossil fuel.

I am permitted to wear the Tartan of the Clan Sinclair.

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7/23/2017 11:44:10 am

Sydney Clouston, I am a Collson St.Clair also.
The Collson family ( various spelling options) had three generations sent to prison in Salem Witch Trials. Mary Dustin Collson ( Coulston ) , the grandmother, died in Prison,in Boston.
Also, my great great uncle was named Sydney Collson also.
Our ancestors were aware of the family surname in which to marry. This was ongoing for thousands of years.
Here are a few surname examples from the last 2600 years which lead to Davinic family of Judah and Samaria:
Ha-David,Hananiah,Bustani,Sassanid, de Saint Clair, de Anjou, Bruce,Steward,Campbell, de Irwin, Russell, Mannerheim, Weissman von Weissenstein, Iysteinsson, Bergenfelt, Aminoff,
Davidson, von Julin, van Schantz, Maas, von Noyees { Norris ), Cushman,Allerton, And Others as well.

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1/17/2017 05:22:18 am

The name used to be BLOND
It were written in the bibel

BLOND is written at mio's of grave stones

during the second world war

Hitler scream out the name Blond
Nobel, Blue blood, Blond

The jews said the name to nazi soldier Blond

the name blond i name protected on a grand scale.

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Dennis Blond
1/30/2017 04:11:09 pm

There are 6mio gravestones with the name blond
All against the nazi
1.1 Mio in US alone.
Blond is the oldest family in the world.
Blond can claim to be the Solomon line.
There's still a royal line.
And it's in Denmark.

Denmark pretty much rape the holy blood line.

It were also the blond that ended the pope in the Vatican and sealed it.

It started with him not willing to write a dismissal notice.
Then it were enslavement.
The pops life ended.

I guess they figured out that the pops men also were guilty in burning the slaves on the fire.

There's story about the pops people suddenly started to burn.
Anyway when they by force breached the seal of god in the Vatican, there were a thick layer of dust.
They cleaned the place up whit out masks
Breathing in the ash from their dead.

The blond is also the angels
It's alot of the saints.


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7/3/2017 08:31:02 pm

Firstly it should be noted that Christ was not born a Jew BUT as a Jew via the line of David. In other words, Christ had not the DNA of his mother Mary as (hypostatic unionism) the Mariology hypotheses teachers. Which is? Christ had two separate natures of which the human nature derived from his mother. Interestingly, it has been said by Catholicism that Jesus resembled his mother.
Teaching this in a bid to make Mary the mother of GOD -the Catholic Church play into the hands of Gnosticism.
Like the first Adam, God the father made the second Adam (Christ) as a human template co-existing with His spiritual nature from times indefinite in the belly of His father. Tertullian 2nd century apologist called Christ pre-existence as "a divine internal seed" Jesus said: "A body you have prepared for me" Not in Mary's womb but in His father’s bosom.1 Peter 1:20
Simply put, Christ had two natures co-existing as one personality and free will. All Mary was obliged to do was to fill in the human template by parental guidance.
As for Christ spiritual nature - it was always complete but not revealed to Him until His baptism." In Christ is the fullness of the Godhead bodily" Mary the mother of Christ was not his biological parent. Rather a surrogate hence, the notion that Christ has a bloodline has to be ruled out and the hypostatic union hypotheses re-examine by the Catholic Church.
One cannot simply say that Mary is the Mother of God without implicating a bloodline.

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10/19/2017 12:58:23 pm

The Trolls are everywhere. Chari you are a comedian

Sid.

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10/26/2017 09:32:09 am

So how does Rh Negative fit into this...Evidently the bloodline got infiiltrated by the Black Nobility of Venice..The Rh negatives are real bloodline.. the lEites MUTT TAION Hybrids fear the rise of the true Rh Negative PSI bloodline....

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Wendy
12/8/2017 03:13:32 pm

Just a thought since I have looked into this history, but isn't it more likely that if there was a "bloodline" that it would have passed through the original Lords of Sidon. They were French, not Scottish. They were surnamed Grenier. After they sold Sidon to the Knights Templar, the Greniers joined the order themselves. I'm not sure where St. Claire falls in all this considering there was an order before it was sold.

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Robert Grenier
12/10/2019 10:43:11 pm

I find your research very interesting.
Sincerely,
Bob Grenier

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Robert Grenier
12/10/2019 10:52:36 pm

Hello Wendy,
I don't think my original comment got to you. I have done a lot of research on my own. The last Lord of Sidon was Julian Grenier. He did sell the Castle of Sidon to the Knights Templar in 1260 and sailed away with them. Do you have any additional information on where they may have sailed to. The Greniers owned three properties in the area. One was the Castle of Ceasarea.
Sincerely,
Bob Grenier

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7/30/2018 01:10:24 pm

Greetings Everyone:

I just stumbled upon this blog by accident, and need to say that I believe Dan Brown's novel was a literary creation based on the actual bloodlines of Joseph of Arimathea, as he was a tin merchant who had made numerous trips to Britain before moving there after Jesus's death and in the era of Christian persecution.

The exact bloodlines are recorded in the UK.

I am descended from this line by way of the Scottish Kings David "The Saint" and his son, Williiam "The Lion" by way of the Ross Line (aka 'RossLyn').

Those who are descended via this lineage will be able to trace the information: "Seek and you shall find."

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Willa Atkinson
7/30/2018 02:20:00 pm

What record in the UK would one find this lineage?

I do believe the descendants of the Sinclair will seek out their lineage, almost as if compelled

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Stephen Hopkins Stoddard
8/18/2018 07:37:49 pm

Willa:

Firstly, there are no Sinclairs or St.Claires in my lineage from the Ross Family, but the son of King William "The Lion" was "Prince Henry" and he was my ancestor. This line continues down through multiple Mayflower Families.

Secondly, I'm not at liberty to divulge certain information, especially here on the web. Just keep tracing your ancestors' vital records, as that is the only way those who are supposed to know this information can ever hope to obtain the information. Ancestry can only be researched from present to past, and must be done one ancestor at a time. If your lineage is true, then you will obtain the proof you seek!

Instead of thinking, "I NEED to find the connection to..."; just clear your mind and follow the path back through your ancestors and ACCEPT that which you find...even if it's not that which you were hoping to find.

Too many people get hung up on looking for that one special piece of the puzzle, and end up overlooking the piece that was really important.

Best wishes on your journey!

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Willa
8/18/2018 10:29:57 pm

Fortunately for me my Great Great Grandmother passed on an accurate record of 15 generations of her family, beginning with John Rogers the Martyr(12th Great Grandfather). John Rogers 1507-1566, the bible editor and author of the book of Mathew, the last book added to the New Testament.

In 1960’s Daisy Hannaford wrote about her father’s family. Including Grandson of John Rogers, Nathaniel Rogers who landed at Ipswich in 1636, he was a minister of the first Church if Ipswich, his grandson was John Rogers Minister and President of Harvard College, his granddaughter Mary Rogers married Hon. Abiel Foster, member from New Hampshire in the first Continental Congress under the first Constitution of the United States, his family is full of American Patriots and my 3rd Great Grandfather was a Civil War vey who was the father of Daisy Hannaford, the author of the Rogers Foster 15 Generations. Although written in paper, in 1960’s. My grandmother can still recall John Rogers and Abiel Foster being part of her oral history. From this solid branch of my maternal grandmother I have been able to explore my genealogy like never before.

As for the Sinclair’s, I have sourced enough references to say with certainty that my family does have Sinclair lineage, Henry Sinclair and his son William Sinclair of Roslin Castle and builder of Rosslyn Chapel are my 17th and 16th Great Grandfather’s respectively, this lineage is also connected to Robert De Bruce, King of Scotland and further back as his lineage goes. I do not seek the secrets that which man hold for me but I have faith that knowledge exists and I pray it stays safe.

Stephen Hopkins Stoddard
8/19/2018 01:04:45 pm

Hello, again, Willa:

You are well on your way to finding that which you seek.

I, too, am descended from the Bruce/Brus/Brusse/de Braose lines going back to Kenneth I Mac Alpin, "First King of Scotland."

(I have lineage from the de Clare Family, but not Sinclair or St.Claire.)

Try to trace your lineage back to the time of Constantine "The Great."

Best wishes, again.

Willa
8/19/2018 04:29:24 pm

I have since met numerous people in the town I live who also share this ancestry.

I have seen sources that trace back to Aleric I, and beyond. To amazing places including the Han Dynasty.

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8/18/2018 03:09:58 pm

What people don't know or maybe they just don't care. Not the first time. Blood don't lie.

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3/29/2019 11:34:24 am

What the Sinclair's or others fail to tell everyone is that they cannot prove their lineage to the St Claire's of Caithness, their haplogroups don't match, that lineage is of Rz346 (which happens to my families haplogroup, which means somewhere from 250 ad we had a common direct line ancestor) and the Sinclair's don't even want to talk to you about the haplogroup unless you can prove your relationship to the Sinclair name (personally I don't care to) The haplogroup group (of St Claire's not Sinclair's) does include Louis XVI as a relative. My direct line 21st gr grandfather was among the first of the land barons to take up arms and go into battle with King Richard, my grandfather was there knighted on the field of battle against the Saracens. It would also seem that freemasons run deep in the family. My main point is anyone who believes the Sinclairs are THE bloodline is an idiot, such utter hokum. They are no more of the bloodline than I am and as much as I enjoy Oak Island, those poor guys are dreaming

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Susan
3/29/2019 12:00:06 pm

I meant to say 250 BC not ad

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Brett
5/12/2019 05:24:22 pm

Susan, that is very interesting to learn. How did you tie in William Sinclair with the Rz346 Haplogroup? I have the same haplogroup and I have traced my lineage to the 1400’s in Ipswich, Suffolk England. My family name is Ives.

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Susan
5/12/2019 06:00:20 pm

I was looking at haplogroups and when it came to Rz346 the first info to pop up was with the St Clairs of Rosslyn, which lead me to a FB page for Sinclair Rz346 and family tree where they were trying to connect the various lines, but the Caithness line has the Rz346 and the others don't have the same mutations. I can trace my direct male line to 1100 something, but they are English, descended from Germany. (I have other connections to Scotland, many in fact) but haplogroups are handed father to son, mother to daughter forever, so I had my brother test. Apparently the Rz346 mutated sometime around (give or take a couple hundred years ) around the bc ad time frame. So in the end we (you and I) share a common ancestor with the St Claires of Caithness...where I don't know

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Cheryl Fitch
11/2/2019 06:58:43 pm

I too am a descendant of Henry Sinclair, Steve. Guess we're distant cousins. Alot of research has been done by many of my family members for years and is documented. This author is not exactly correct on several levels.

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jACK
1/12/2020 11:29:17 pm

He was a human..subjected...............The ol man indicated as such..I'm sure he had issues. if he wanted to breed miss Mary..have at her..I have no bitch..as long as he loved her...He was made man..Everybody falls.I don't care..There's yer first clue. if your man...you will love a woman..That is not a sin..What does Jesus preach..Be kind and love one another. To actually love another. a good idea. He wasn't stupid. he knew man and our falings..grass is greener.......he knew it too..why do you think God had to come down and show us boys?....I rest my case.

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Christine Winnan
2/6/2020 12:19:53 pm

When you put all the ingredients into a pot to make a beef stew that is what you get......all the ingredients are there to say that the HIGH St Clair's DID sail to America and name Nova Scotia (Latin for New Scotland) after their homeland as often discoverers did...

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