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History Tripper "Dr." John Ward to Offer Dowsing Lessons at Psychic College in London

1/12/2015

190 Comments

 
Mondays are bad days for me. I’m flooded with work and have virtually no time for anything else. But I made a few minutes to share with you this bizarre image from an advertisement appearing in England for tours led by “Dr.” John Ward, the boon companion of Intrepid magazine owner Scotty Roberts and his partner in the History Trippers television pilot, currently under consideration by a major media conglomerate that really should know better. It’s one of the more bizarre things I’ve seen this week.
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Take a look at that picture—dressed like Indiana Jones, standing against an Egyptian backdrop, and dowsing!  According to the promotional material put out by the College of Psychic Studies, Ward intends to explore whether the buildings of London were purposely built to channel psychic powers. “Our aim is to determine if these monuments and symbols are deliberate acts of inclusion in the landscape and if there is any direct metaphysical effect on the immediate environment and population.”

It’s worth noting that “Dr.” John Ward is not a Ph.D. His “doctorate” is, by his own admission, an honorary award from a Knights Templar fan club in Great Britain who are not accredited and do not have the standing to award academic degrees, honorary or otherwise. This makes his doctorate even less legitimate than Sean David Morton’s, which was a “Ph.D.-equivalency” degree purchased from a for-profit Canadian school. To use his Templar-awarded fictitious degree to ask for money (£130 per person!) to take people on a dowsing tour of the City of London on behalf of a psychic college is, frankly, deceptive.

For the cheaper two hour, £14 workshop, Ward is not even present at his own event. He will be calling in from Egypt. 

If you are not able to attend either but still want to give Ward some money, he and Roberts are selling History Trippers calendars.

Ward claims to be an archaeologist because he works in Egypt with Dr. Maria Nilsson, his self-described “partner,” who performs archaeological research. According to Ward’s CV, he serves as her photographer at Gebel el Silsila. According to the College of Psychic Studies, he is now claiming to also be an anthropologist, though on what grounds I can hardly imagine. 

The College of Psychic Studies was founded in 1884 during the heyday of the spiritualist movement and currently offers courses in various psychic powers and related parlor tricks from the Victorian era.

It seems like a good fit for a man who clearly has a Victorian-steampunk aesthetic to go along with his Victorian occultism and nineteenth century sense of pseudo-history.
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Steampunk-influenced promotional image for Ward's and Roberts's TV pilot.
190 Comments
EP
1/12/2015 10:04:21 am

Jason, I hate to always be the one to harp about these things (really, I do!), but what, exactly, is "steampunk" about that image? I mean, it can't just be the compass...

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gdave
1/12/2015 10:50:29 am

The two men, in bold, adventurous poses in semi-profile, dressed in vaguely old-fashioned clothing, with a compass watermark....If it were in sharp black-and-white, or even color, I'd say it was a pulp adventure aesthetic, but with the false-sepia tone, I agree with Jason - it definitely looks steampunk-influenced.

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InquisitorX
1/12/2015 11:03:56 am

Whatever you want to call it, it is definitely a self conscious effort to affect a sort of Victorian to Indiana Jones-ish persona. They just come off as arrogant and like a Role Playing Game version of what an explorer should look like. Then again, those two ARE living out their own Role Playing Game.

V
1/12/2015 11:02:45 am

It's very much drawing on the Victorian-influenced iconography--the placement of the hand, the hats, the lack of smiles, and the sepia-toned stuff. The elaborate neck scarves. It's got a steampunk flavor to it. It's just very, very poorly done steampunk.

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spookyparadigm
1/12/2015 11:14:59 am

I'll just leave these here for calibrating the ends of the meter between chap and steampunk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiRPBCiJg2c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eELH0ivexKA

EP
1/12/2015 11:17:45 am

How long have you been waiting for an excuse to post these? :)

spookyparadigm
1/12/2015 10:08:42 am

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/013/974/clap.gif

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EP
1/12/2015 10:12:38 am

Man, I hope Scottie Roberts shows up again!

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Andy White
1/12/2015 10:17:08 am

Thanks for the laugh. Seriously.

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Shane Sullivan
1/12/2015 10:25:33 am

I should be the one teaching that course.

I grew up in the original home town of the Morris Pratt Institute; maybe I absorbed psychic powers by osmosis!

And my grandpa was purportedly a capable dowser. That's gotta be genetic, right? =P

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EP
1/12/2015 10:38:36 am

After that "sizzle reel", I cannot look at John Ward handling rods without giggling :)

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Shane Sullivan
1/12/2015 10:43:22 am

Is it supposed to curve sharply to the side like that...?

EP
1/12/2015 10:44:47 am

Only if Scotte is around,

InquisitorX
1/12/2015 10:57:21 am

So along with fake degrees, fake claims, Nazi symbolism and racist theology we can add dowsing to the list of damning evidence.

And yet that lot think they should be considered legitimate academics. lol

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Marius
1/12/2015 12:39:36 pm

Why do fringe guys always dress like Indianna Jones? Indy never went after the Ark/Stones/Grail because he believed in them, it was to stop the Nazis/Thugee/Nazis from getting their hands on artifacts that belonged to someone else.

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Paul J.
1/12/2015 02:32:26 pm

"It’s worth noting that 'Dr.' John Ward is not a Ph.D. His 'doctorate' is, by his own admission, an honorary award from a Knights Templar fan club in Great Britain who are not accredited and do not have the standing to award academic degrees, honorary or otherwise."

You mean that doesn't count?

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Dan
1/12/2015 04:29:39 pm

"Dowsing" is really the most ridiculous of the many silly fringe "tests".

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tm
1/12/2015 04:57:59 pm

Add hats and scarves ...

http://www.starstills.com/ss2422472-cast-young-frankenstein-movie-photo/

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Phillip link
1/12/2015 05:36:25 pm

I have some dowsing rods, they are not the magic kind though. However, after twisting them together, they work well to hang my Indiana Jones costume up in my closet.

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Duke of URL
1/13/2015 03:30:06 am

Don't they have any laws in England against false advertising?

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Ali Baba
1/13/2015 04:36:12 am

Come on, the Duke of Kent is a personal friend of Uri Geller.

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EP
1/13/2015 06:04:37 am

A company in the UK manufactured dowsing rods that were used by the Iraqi police to look for explosives. Eventually they got shut down and the owner went to prison, but still.

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spookyparadigm
1/13/2015 04:10:18 am

Calendar? You only linked to the calendar?

Oh, the t-shirt and mugs links on the left have to be seen.

http://www.cafepress.com/intrepidparadigm.835301089

Seriously considering getting the academia shirt.

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EP
1/13/2015 04:13:33 am

This needs to be a thong as well.

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Only Me
1/13/2015 05:24:29 am

I can see Scotty Roberts dressed as Yogurt from Spaceballs:

"Merchandising, merchandising, where the real money from the website is made. History Trippers-the T-shirt, History Trippers-the Coloring Book, History Trippers-the Lunch Box, History Trippers-the Breakfast Cereal, History Trippers-the Dowsing Rod Set."

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InquisitorX
1/13/2015 05:44:35 am

Don't forget your Official History Trippers Decoder Ring, complete with patented "Dr." John Ward Nazi SS symbols and Scotty Roberts Nephilim/Reptilian Hybrid Locator.

Scotty Roberts link
1/20/2015 04:07:33 pm

Hmmmm... "History Trippers the Lunch Box" ..... add a thermos for coffee and it just might sell. ;)

Only Me
1/20/2015 04:20:39 pm

Just don't include a History Trippers-The Flamethrower. The kids may love it, but it's a lawsuit waiting to happen. :)

JLH
1/13/2015 07:26:41 am

I like how they took pains to fit the word "rigorous" and then misspell "rules."

Personally, I prefer the elegant simplicity of this one:

http://www.cafepress.com/intrepidparadigm/6878468

Although I imagine the type of person who would actually wear this in public would rather ruin the effect.

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terry the censor
1/14/2015 02:16:44 pm

> To use his Templar-awarded fictitious degree to ask for money ... is, frankly, deceptive.

My lawyers advise me not to suggest "deceptive" be replaced with "fraud."

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terry the censor
1/14/2015 02:41:01 pm

> It’s worth noting that “Dr.” John Ward is not a Ph.D.

As we've discussed before, Jason, you could fix that by awarding these poor fringe chaps a PhD-emblazoned coffee mug. You're not a fan club or a diploma mill; you're a blogger -- which surely has a much greater cachet!

Who would turn down an honorary doctorate in amateur xenoarcheology? Who would be the first to put it on their CV or (dare we hope?) wave the mug about while being interviewed by the History Channel?

We just have to find a name for the institution behind your blog. How about:

Colavito Institute of Geo-Metaphysical Xenoarcheology

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Duke of URL
1/15/2015 02:58:28 am

Oh YESSS...

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CryptoCad
1/15/2015 01:55:48 pm

And look at what Ward is into, here. Can you believe what this guy is into?

http://gebelelsilsilaepigraphicsurveyproject.blogspot.com/

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CryptoCad
1/15/2015 01:59:14 pm

And this is atrocious. Ward is a piece of work.

http://www.arce.org/news/2013/08/u117/the-gebel-el-silsila-survey-project-two-seasons

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InquisitorX
1/16/2015 12:23:05 am

Cryptocad, aka Scotty Roberts comes to the defence of his business partner. What was that shite you said to me about hiding behind an assumed name, Roberts? lol

Yes, your cohor works on his gal pal's archaeological dig, but he's not an archaeologist and his not an anthropologist. He's a scubadiver who takes photographs for her.

Oh, and when he's not using the Nazi SS ring on his logo he's using his fake degree to lure people into paying him for his dowsing expertise. hahaha

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InquisitorX
1/16/2015 12:28:09 am

Don't forget Ward is also into this..

http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/fringe-history-and-the-survival-of-esoteric-nazism

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Scotty Roberts link
1/17/2015 04:39:51 am

"CryptoCad," so far as I can see, has posted two links. I haven't seen bandwagon criticism coming from his/her position in the anonymous ether. Fairly innocuous stuff.

As for you, InquisitorX, you have leveled charges that go off the scale. And while it seems VERY important for you to make your points, they are not important enough for you to take credit for them with your real name.

You must have a great fear of being held personally accountable for what you say.

Nice post, Jason, but, once again, lacking in any real journalism. You are a critic who criticizes from your point-of-view, obviously VERY uninterested in speaking to the subjects of your criticism.

My only guess is that you don't want to have your bias tainted.

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Scotty Roberts link
1/17/2015 04:42:21 am

And thank you, Father jack, for bringing this to my attention.

I will maintain that while you have leveled extreme criticism of Ward and me, I respect your integrity and character in putting your name to your words.

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EP
1/17/2015 05:15:09 am

Whenever Jack Ashcraft is mentioned, the first word that springs to mind is "integrity".

Only Me
1/17/2015 12:11:10 pm

Now, now, EP. I know you don't believe in exorcisms, but at least Father Jack isn't guilty of trying to perform one, even facetiously, over the Internet, unlike a certain reverend that loves to lurk on this site.

http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/scott-wolters-apparently-non-existent-degree#comments

EP
1/18/2015 11:27:54 am

I liked the priest fights the two of them would get into... :)

Alex Hamilton
1/17/2015 08:53:47 pm

Jason seems to expend a lot of time and effort blogging about Ward and Roberts. It seems like a waste of time given that neither of them are significant at anything they do.

Ward is little more than a glorified side-kick to an actual archaeologist. He can barely form a cohesive thought that isn't strung together with "umms", "ahhs" and painfully long pauses. He contributes nearly nothing to the pair's already content sparse radio program.

Roberts, on the other hand, is a charismatic word smith. He has the gift of gab and quite easily presents himself as a likable person. He obviously carries Ward's weight. What's less known is that Roberts also has a habit of alienating people and making enemies as quickly as he can befriend them.

Jason needs not invest so much time trying to strip away at Ward and Roberts credibility. Roberts will inevitably do that to himself as he has so many times before.

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I'm A Jeffersonian
1/18/2015 01:44:40 am

You speak truth. Roberts has a line of people he's befriended, some might even suggest "used" for whatever at the moment, and then just as quickly turned on when they confront him on certain things. You're right when you say that isnt well known but its getting out more and more. Roberts and Ward both have a bad rep. in the same circles they like to hawk their wares in. Some of us wont even return their calls anymore. My bet would be the Paradigm Symposium is on its last leg as a result.

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Scotty Roberts link
1/18/2015 09:55:38 am

If you truly are a "Jeffersonian," then at least we are aligned politically. ;)

As for having a line of people I have befriended or somehow used or abused, that's news to me. And, as I offered to Alex Hamilton above, if I have somehow offended you along the way, please accept my apologies.

If you are indeed one of those people you think comprise a long line, the least you could do is let me know if I have somehow hurt of offended you. I am pretty easy to get hold of.

EP
1/18/2015 03:23:48 am

"He obviously carries Ward's weight."

heh

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Scotty Roberts link
1/18/2015 09:39:21 am

You speak truth, Alex... neither Ward nor I are significant at all. We just enjoy doing what we're doing.

I have encountered lots of people, have had lots of friendships and acquaintances. Some of those people have remained close, others have drifted away, as happens to so many of us.

I have a few haters out there, but who doesn't?

If you are someone who has been offended by me for some thing unknown to me, accept my apologies.

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EP
1/18/2015 11:23:53 am

Scotty Roberts, enjoying doing... whatever it is that he does in this thread... Mostly mixing lame attempts at self-promotion with calling people things like "Internet turd":

http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/scott-roberts-and-jack-ward-offer-sizzle-reel-for-new-fringe-history-show#comments

Alex Hamilton
1/18/2015 03:33:16 pm

It was a difficult realization for me that you are not who I believed you to be. I think that you are a good person and I generally wish you well but you have to be stark raving mad if you think you can hand out insincere apologies on a blog and honestly expect people to accept them.

I've forgiven you for your indiscretions while others clearly have yet to do so. You can't seriously expect to make amends for years of slighting people via blog comments?

I'm A Jeffersonian
1/18/2015 10:09:52 am

You have the reputation you do not because some just drift away but because you use people and then when their use is gone or they confront you about things- and I know you can list these things if you think about it- you turn on them. In fact you became worse after Ward entered the picture as many of us know. But this isnt a problem with Ward, its a problem with you. You burn people along with bridges. Its starting to come back on you again just like it always does. People are not so keen to be a part of the symposium, and you sense the problems if you're gonna be honest. Your apologies are empty Roberts. I hate to say it but your apology seems more like damage control than sincere. If you were sincere you would never burn people like you do. Think hard. You know what you've done to people. Your history is a known. Its starting to come back on you yet again. As I said, Paradigm Symposium wont last much longer and you have only yourself and your business partner to blame.

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EP
1/18/2015 11:29:52 am

I hope I'm not alone in wanting to see someone leak some juicy dirt on Scotty Roberts.

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Scotty Roberts link
1/18/2015 01:07:31 pm

Why would you want to see that, EP?

EP
1/18/2015 01:10:00 pm

Because I find you amusing and because it could make the world a slightly better place.

Scotty Roberts link
1/18/2015 01:28:12 pm

EP,
If you find me so amusing, then give me a call. If what i say here leaves you amused, a "face-to-face" conversation would leave you in stitches for weeks.

EP
1/18/2015 01:38:01 pm

I'm going to assume that you're either making threats or are too dumb to realize that that's exactly what it sounds like.

InquisitorX
1/18/2015 02:00:56 pm

Scotty Roberts threatened EP. How very academic.

Did you learn that from your Nephilim hybrid Serpent Seed racial theorist friends, Mr. Roberts?

Scotty Roberts link
1/18/2015 02:37:12 pm

Seriously, EP. You are smarter than that. I think.

Scotty Roberts link
1/18/2015 01:19:38 pm

You obviously feel you are someone who has been "burned" by me. Since I do not know who you are, making an apology to a vague charge is a little difficult.

The Paradigm Symposium is not seeming to have any problems, and has encountered a much deeper support than it has since its inception in 2012. So, far, we have a list longer than my arm of people who would like to be involved, and we just can't fit them all in one year.

But I shouldn't say too much about that, as EP will say I am self-promoting.

And funny, on that note, I get all sorts of charges and questions, and if I answer them and tell people where I am available, it is somehow twisted into self-promoting.

But I digress. Jeffersonian, if you have something specific to charge me with, that has affected you personally, then butch-up and give me a call. If you know me so well, you obviously know how to get hold of me.

Character assassination from anonymity in a public blog is hardly the stuff of holding a higher moral ground - which is what you are setting yourself up as possessing, here.

And, frankly, you are making some brash assumptions about what you think I know about anything you are purporting.

My question to all who are reading these things... are you here to discuss and dialog or simply make character assassinations from the sidelines of anonymity?

Let's get YOUR names and personal histories, along with the all the people who may have something negative to say about YOU, and see where the conversation goes. Until then,I fail to see the puritanical places you all hail from, giving you some sort of superior ground in your anonymity.

And, of course, this is just a waste of time, as none of you has the courage to use your real name, thereby voiding your power of conviction. With lack of accountability, people grant themselves the right to say anything they'd like.

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EP
1/18/2015 01:27:43 pm

Looking forward to another awesome >300-comment thread.

Scotty Roberts link
1/18/2015 01:32:10 pm

Don't hold your breath, EP.

I'm A Jeffersonian
1/18/2015 01:56:00 pm

I know more than you give me credit for, Roberts. You can pretend all is well with your symposium, but the truth is your long list of people are all no names. There are enough of us who wouldn't ever grace your symposium (some never again). You aren't making a profit. You know that. Its not the smashing success you want people to believe it is. Your bravado aside- you know things don't look as hot for the future of the symposium as you say.

Like Alex Hamilton said. Your treatment of people always exposes you. You calling the people here names for exposing the absolute joke that you and Ward are just underscores Alex Hamilton's comments.

Keep it up.

Alex Hamilton
1/18/2015 03:18:31 pm

You are under the mistaken assumption that those who post here under the condition of anonymity do so because they lack courage, conviction or accountability. In fairness, who, besides you, really wants a petty exchange on the internet attributed to them in perpetuity?

What good are these people suppose to believe comes from you having their real name and telephone number? Is there any reasonable path that will lead these people from loathing you to loving you? Probably not.

On some level it must truly bother you that there are so many people that dislike you. If I were you, I'd be using these exchanges as an opportunity to find out what makes people feel that way about you rather than dispute the veracity of their very similar claims.

EP
1/18/2015 03:27:48 pm

"In fairness, who, besides you, really wants a petty exchange on the internet attributed to them in perpetuity?"

Well, you'd be surprised... But that doesn't make the whole "hurr durr you lack integrity because you don't use your real name" charge any less ridiculous.

Scotty Roberts' Doppleganger
7/13/2016 02:33:16 pm

How very prophetic this statement turned out to be.

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Alex Hamilton
1/18/2015 03:01:52 pm

It is neither my goal nor my job to assassinate the character of Ward or Roberts. I believe that is a task far better suited to a disinterested third party. I am biased in that I very, very much dislike Roberts. I have no real feelings regarding Ward apart from his lackluster radio performances, because I don't know him personally.

EP, Roberts lives a very publicly transparent lifestyle. His shortcomings and "juicy dirt" are easily accessible online if you're willing to look. You won't find any shortage of people willing to speak out about how quickly relationships with Roberts can go south.

Jeffersonian, I think you hit the nail on the head when you described being "used" by Roberts. Used doesn't necessarily mean for material or monetary gain. It can also be for advice, counsel or a crying shoulder. Once that use is fulfilled, you will again be gently discarded until such a time that you are once again deemed useful.

He has a very wide net of friends and acquaintances and prioritizes his "friendships" and attention to those who have the most to give him at any given time.

What really bothers me (and perhaps Roberts can answer this) is that I'm not confident that he's actually aware that he does this. This uncertainty makes it that much harder for me to condemn him.

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EP
1/18/2015 03:31:17 pm

"His shortcomings and "juicy dirt" are easily accessible online if you're willing to look."

To be honest, I was hoping someone else might do the looking, since unfortunately I'm going through a stretch in my life where my capacity for dealing with the more depressing specimens of humanity is greatly reduced...

As for the rest of it, you're making Scotty Roberts sound like a banal narcissist... to the surprise of no one whatsoever, I'm sure...

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Alex Hamilton
1/18/2015 05:16:38 pm

He's really more of an opportunist than a narcissist.

EP
1/19/2015 04:08:05 am

The two are not mutually exclusive, of course.

Brad
1/18/2015 09:11:38 pm

I don't know much about the fringe television shows. I know even less about archaeology, aliens and symbolism. I thus lay dormant while Scotty Robert's professional work is continually assailed here.

For the record, I take no objection to the criticism of Scotty's work. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion of an author, television show, or even a prospective one. Scotty no doubt feels the same or he wouldn't take the time to be here engaging with his critics.

I do not feel the need to defend Scotty's work and, quite honestly, I don't know enough about it to even try. What I do know about is Scotty's character and I refuse to stand idly by while people cast stones and unfair characterizations.

Our friendship is one spurred out of a mutual love for radio and the paranormal. It was a decade earlier and a time when terrestrial radio was still king. Podcasts and internet radio stations were up and comers but real talk still rode the airwaves. It really was the end of an area.

Nearly every one of my mornings started with a one or two hour long telephone conversation with Scotty. I was always driving and he was most often precariously perched on his own stoop, a full cup of coffee and a cigarette in hand. I miss those days and can honestly say that they are when I came to know Scotty most.

Suffice to say, I know Scotty very well and though he doesn't need anyone to testify to it, he is an exceptional man with a solid value system. Here is a guy that would never endeavor to harm, mislead or defraud anyone. That may be contrary to everything else you have read here today but if I can speak authoritatively on anything discussed here, it's Scotty.

My point here is that you may not like his literary works or even care for his on-screen performance but that doesn't give license to attack his character.

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EP
1/19/2015 02:43:41 am

Does his behavior on this blog give the people who feel insulted by him "license to attack his character"?

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Brad
1/19/2015 03:05:06 am

I have seen plenty of posts and criticisms choosing only to respond to one that I believe is patently false.

EP
1/19/2015 03:21:08 am

Which is what, exactly? I don't see you answering to any criticisms, just sticking up for your bestest buddy because you think someone's being a meanie to him.

Brad
1/19/2015 03:52:17 am

Come now, are you really going to decry me for sticking up for a friend? Is it not one of the most very basic tenets of friendship that we aid them when they are in need?

I have read a lot of comments about Scotty and his work that I believe are mean-spirited and have not intervened. So test of my involvement has absolutely nothing to do with whether someone is being mean.

EP
1/19/2015 04:07:45 am

So what is the criticism to which you are "choosing to respond", then?

InquisitorX
1/19/2015 12:21:09 am

Looks to me like a few people who know him just as well as you (maybe better) think different "Brad". Maybe you need to take off the hero worship glasses and acknowledge the fact that Roberts has used people, as has been revealed here. I'll do some deeper digging like Alex Hamilton says. Apparently there's a dark undercurrent to be found other than the stuff already exposed on this blog.

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Brad
1/19/2015 02:48:47 am

I've known Scotty for the better part of a decade and I've never witnessed any of what's been described here. Are you really suggesting that a couple of Internet blog posters know him better?

As mentioned, I know very little about Scotty's work save having read one of his books. Our interests are very different. I see him not through "hero worship glasses" but as I have for many years. He's a good man. What's being posted here are not revelations that differ from that reality.

I do not doubt that there are certain people that do not like him. We wouldn't be having this exchange otherwise. Everyone has people that like and dislike them, you and I included.

I think its a bit hasty to form an opinion on Scotty's character based on solely having heard from his dissenters.

As as for my name, which you put in quotations, it really is Brad. I assume that Alex Hamilton is merely a pseudonym for founding father Alexander Hamilton. I won't criticize you for not using your name as I've chosen not to use my use my surname (and I don't think it matters), but why would you assume mine is false?

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EP
1/19/2015 03:21:51 am

Brad = Scotty Wolter's personal Rev. Phil Gotsch

EP
1/19/2015 03:22:31 am

I mean "Scotty Roberts's personal Rev. Phil Gotsch".

Derp.

Brad
1/19/2015 03:28:57 am

I don't know who Rev. Phil Gotsch so your comparison escapes me. I do believe that our discourse has been nothing but polite and to the point.

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EP
1/19/2015 04:10:28 am

You may want to look him up. While you're at it, look up discussions of Scotty's work on this blog, or at least Scotty's work itself. This way, people are going to be more likely to give a damn about your opinion.

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Brad
1/19/2015 04:19:31 am

I have read every post about Scotty and each comment made. As I've said, I'm not here to defend Scotty's work nor am I well versed enough to do so.

You have every right to an opinion on his work as you're able to watch it, read it and consume it. The only thing I've argued here is whether it's a bit hasty to make determinations on the kind of person he is based on a set of blog posts.

I'm not asking you to believe that he's a good person based solely on what I have to say. I'm just saying that maybe you shouldn't conclude that he is a bad person based on the postings of another.

EP
1/19/2015 08:10:35 am

I have concluded that Scotty Wolter is a bad person largely on the basis of his own words. Jason's posts just convinced me that he is a run-of-the-mill fringe idiot.

InquisitorX
1/19/2015 08:36:56 am

Scott Wolter or Scotty Roberts?

EP
1/19/2015 08:51:21 am

Scotty Roberts.

Gah! I gotta stop confusing fringe hacks, this is embarrassing! :)

I'm A Jeffersonian
1/19/2015 04:57:03 am

"Brad"- There are more people than the few of us posting here who have the opinion of Roberts that we do. Not everyone wants to post. Some fear retribution. I wonder what Lan Lamphere, Jason Hawes, and a few others might say about Roberts were they to be candid. Something tells me it wouldn't be pretty.

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InquisitorX
1/19/2015 05:06:47 am

"Thank you once again Scott Roberts and Nancy Planeta for attempting to ruin my life. You failed.. you miserable pieces of shit! I wish there was a God. I wish there was a hell. Without hesitation I would attempt to condemn you both to it."- Lan Lamphere

http://www.lanlamphere.com/2014/04/17/with-the-wind-there-is-change/

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Scotty Roberts link
1/19/2015 05:39:40 am

Your attempts at character assassination are becoming silly. One-sided links do not present an entire picture.

But, then again, you are not interested in the whole story. You are looking for damning information.

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InquisitorX
1/19/2015 05:10:26 am

Lan Lamphere confronts Scotty Roberts on radio:

http://www.hauntedamericaradio.com/audio/Episode28.mp3

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InquisitorX
1/19/2015 05:15:16 am

TAPS magazine (Scotty Roberts as editor) complaint filed of money not paid:

http://forums.writersweekly.com/viewtopic.php?t=8557

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Scotty Roberts link
1/19/2015 05:42:25 am

Again, you only post what suits your purpose. Do you know the other side to this? Probably not.

I was the EID and PR guy for the magazine. All i could do was answer and pass it on to the powers that were.

I eventually left TAPS because I was never paid, either.

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InquisitorX
1/19/2015 05:17:01 am

"Scotty Roberts (the new editor) tried to make an effort to explain the situation (or one giant F-up as I like to call it now.) He was trying to be nice to us about it (to ensure we keep coming, I suppose,) but I feel like he was being kind of rude in a passive-aggressive way. You may not agree, but I've re-read some of his replies, and I don't get a good vibe. I also know he's kind of rude, because he found my review of TAPS Paramagazine (which is obviously a negative one) and projected the magazine's spelling and grammatical mistakes on my review."

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/tapsparalies/

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InquisitorX
1/19/2015 05:19:42 am

One comment at the above link stated, "Terence Herrera, United States
4 years ago
Comments: I renewed my subscription last year for $60 and have not received 1 issue. In a conversation with Scott, I asked for my money back, and his reply was, "yeah buddy, you and 8,000 other people."

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Scotty Roberts link
1/19/2015 05:45:26 am

Again, you post what this person said, not what my actual reply was to him, which was something like, "... you and 8000 other people. But I was just brought on board to try to fix the problems, so if you can hang in there with us as we reorganize company that almost went bankrupt, we may be able to take of you. However, if you would rather not wait it out over the next few months, please contact the publisher directly at..."

You can cherry pick all you want. Why not try looking up all the good things said?

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InquisitorX
1/19/2015 05:50:23 am

None of that stuff after "you and 8000 other people" appears in the original post. You added that yourself. I just posted what the person said your response was.

Scotty Roberts link
1/19/2015 08:11:11 am

That was my point. You are simply posting incomplete information for... what purpose...?

I'm A Jeffersonian
1/19/2015 08:20:27 am

And we should accept your revision of the person's complaint why? You could easily have made that up right after you saw it posted here. Yet that complaint against you sat out there for years. Knowing what I do, I'd say the original complaintants quote was correct.

Scotty Roberts link
1/19/2015 05:09:06 pm

Jeffersonian,
I don't care what you accept or do not accept. I was only setting the record straight in accordance with how I dealt with customer service issues during a time of helping rebuild the reputation of the mag.

Your statements reveal how little you truly know me. What you suggest has simply never been the way I act in those sorts of situations. And if you knew me well, you would know that about me.

I know what my position was with TAPS, and at that time I was the new EID/PR wrangling subscription complaints for a magazine that hadn't published in nearly a year. We were bringing in an entirely new paradigm, and working hard to fix the mag's prior problems. I was also establishing good PR for the company, and mouthing off to a disgruntled customer is not the way to achieve that end.

I believe that the complaintant's interpretation of what I said is wholly mistaken, mostly because while in the process of helping to rebuild a company's reputation, using that sort of rhetoric would be not only counter-productive, but stupid.

And, frankly, I don't care what you want to believe about it. Your belief/disbelief does not alter what I know I said.

On the other hand, as is commonly displayed in blog threads like these, someone who has an axe to grind will spout off in generalities and misleading information. As was probably the case with an angry customer like Harrera.

Billy
1/19/2015 05:26:42 am

Looks like this isnt the 1st time Scotty Roberts has made an attempt at TV fame.

http://www.bulletin-news.com/print/152583

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Scotty Roberts link
1/19/2015 05:47:55 am

This is what is left of that original concept series. We were attempting to do an historical show on Native American sites in the upper midwest that included paranormal aspects.

You can see what's left of that website, here...
http://scottalanroberts.com/clients/deadreckoningtv/

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InquisitorX
1/19/2015 05:52:40 am

So basically your new attempt at tv is just a different spin on your paranormal crap. The only real difference is this time you have a fake archaeologist who uses Nazi symbols on his logo and does dowsing instead of a psychic next to you.

Same shit, different cover.

Brad
1/19/2015 05:44:07 am

I am aware of all of the stories posted here from Lan Lamphere all the way back to his days as the editor-in-chief of TAPS Paramag.

Things haven't always worked out for Scotty but I'll maintain that none of these things make him a bad person.

Indeed, he did have a previous attempt at television with Dead Reckoning. I'm not sure how that's to be construed as a negative thing. This was pitched around the time that these types of programs were a dime a dozen. There was some network interest but ultimately the project was shelved.

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Scotty Roberts link
1/19/2015 08:31:28 am

Brad,
"Dead Reckoning" was intended to be a fun attempt at coming up with something a little different in the way of paranormal television shows.

I wanted to blend historical content with paranormal content, focusing on Native American sites across Minnesota, the Dakotas, Iowa and Wisconsin. It was well-received, and we had some good people on board, but I dropped the project after realizing how glutted that market had become. I wasn't interested in being "just another" paranormal show.

At the same time, Raini was about ready to give birth to Flynn, and life was wildly manic. So we shelved the project.

It was shortly after that when I was offered the EID position with TAPS. I walked into a hornet's nest on that one, but we turned it around in a year. It was a fun time, and made a nice entry on my resume, but in the long run did absolutely nothing to put food on the table, so I resigned and founded Intrepid Mag with Lan Lamphere, the next day in December of 2010. I parted ways with Lan three months later, the details of which I do not need to share in a public forum.

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EP
1/19/2015 08:16:38 am

This thread delivers :D

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InquisitorX
1/19/2015 08:18:08 am

Ward claims here to be "intrumental" in some great archaeological discoveries at Karnak and Luxor. LOLOL

http://adventuresindowsing.com/aid044-dr-john-ward-dowsing-in-egypt/

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Scotty Roberts link
1/19/2015 04:05:41 pm

Did you listen to the interview, InquisitorX? Did you hear what Ward said about that statement?

At Karnak Temple, John dowsed the great ramps out front. The results were accepted at the time, then exploited. They later returned and excavated on the basis, in part, of John’s dowsing. The results were verified and established.

As a result of that dowsing, Ward was later invited to dowse The Lost Chapel at Luxor and the results were verified and accepted as valid.

He also dowsed by invitation at Mendat Habu to map out a greater underground, as-of-yet only partially excavated series of rooms and passages between the pylon and the Nileometers of Nectanebo. Ward, incidentally, took me to the same site and showed me how to dowse the same chambers he had mapped out. It was a fairly intriguing experience seeing the rods in my hands turn corners, find doorways, and trace the lines of passageways.

Never has Ward puffed out his chest and laid claim to anything at Karnak nor Luxor Temples. Listen for yourself and see if you gage his words as pompous, arrogant or in any way akin to what you’d like people to believe by your words about this interview above.

Also in this interview, Ward was asked about his credentials, to which he openly stated that he was completely NON-institutionally credentialed, and that his doctorate was given to him as a result of doing symbolism work by the Templar organization.

Listen and gage him by his own words.

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Scotty Roberts link
1/19/2015 04:10:18 pm

InquisitorX said:
"Ward claims here to be 'intrumental' in some great archaeological discoveries at Karnak and Luxor. LOLOL"

Where did you get those words? You made them up, because Ward never made any such claim to any "great discovery," nor did the interviewer. Those are your words, alone. A complete fabrication for the purpose of misleading.

It seems you attempt to build a negative case through exaggeration and false, misleading information. No wonder you have to keep harping away.

This sheds a lot of light on your motivations.

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Only Me
1/19/2015 05:06:28 pm

At the risk of pissing you off, I don't think you have a valid criticism, Mr. Roberts.

You haven't addressed I'm A Jeffersonian's question concerning your reply toward the complaint InquisitorX found. He asked:

"And we should accept your revision of the person's complaint why?"

This is a good question, as the complaint is four years old and, barring some evidence you can provide in your favor, how do you know what InquisitorX posted is "incomplete information"?

EP
1/19/2015 05:16:47 pm

More importantly, why should *we* think that?

InquisitorX
1/19/2015 11:24:09 pm

Read the link Roberts. The quote is right there on the link. So much for reading. Too busy defending your cohort to bother with something pesky like that,

Scotty Roberts link
1/20/2015 03:39:55 am

InquisitorX,
I see you are being more than your normal obtuse this morning.

You said that "Ward CLAIMS to have made 'GREAT DISCOVERIES' at Karnak." That quote exists nowhere - except in your own words. Ward never said that.

I didn't see that in the quote on the website. You made that up, exaggerating and expanding on what was actually said in order to slam your personal point home and mislead.

And so what that I "defend" my friend. Why should that be different than you attacking him?

Have you found any more juicy, dirty tidbits, yet? How IS your pet project coming along...?

Scotty Roberts link
1/20/2015 03:51:32 am

ONLY ME,
Sorry I missed your post earlier. I DID get back to answer Jeffersonian's statement, but hadn't noticed it, at first.

I'm A Jeffersonian
1/20/2015 04:43:58 am

Yes Only Me. His response can be encapsulated in just a few lines from his rant filled post. He said..

"I don't care what you accept or do not accept."

"Your statements reveal how little you truly know me."

"I believe that the complaintant's interpretation of what I said is wholly mistaken.."

"And, frankly, I don't care what you want to believe about it. Your belief/disbelief does not alter what I know I said."

"On the other hand, as is commonly displayed in blog threads like these, someone who has an axe to grind will spout off in generalities and misleading information. As was probably the case with an angry customer like Harrera."

So basically Scotty Roberts is saying he doesn't care what we or the person who made the complaint think, we're all wrong, the person who made the complaint is just making generalities and posting misleading stuff as part of a conspiracy to get him.

So the question still stands. Why should we accept Roberts' revisionist history regarding this complaint about him?

*cue crickets*

InquisitorX
1/20/2015 04:00:40 am

Since you're too stupid to read the link, here's the exact quote.

'' Dr John Ward, who talks about his life and work in Egypt, where he has been instrumental in locating archaeological discoveries at Karnak and Luxor temples and is currently involved with excavating a site at Gebel el Silsila.''

So what are these great discoveries Ward made that no real archaeologist has...

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Scotty Roberts link
1/20/2015 02:14:31 pm

I read the link and listened to the interview, long before you posted it here, InquisitorX.

You are still failing to see where you have exaggerated what was said on that website in order to make your point. I see nothing on the link where Ward is claiming to have made "great discoveries." That was YOUR wording in order to create a sensationalized statement for the purpose of misleading. Isn;t that what you say you decry in others? Yet you are willing to do it to make your point sound stronger than it is.

Its your wording and rephrasing, here in your post, that I brought to question, not the link's contents.

InquisitorX
1/19/2015 08:23:23 am

"'The craft of Dowsing is not an art it is a state of the body, mind and Spirit where you become oneness with the surrounding universe...'"- From "Dr." John Ward's dowsing video.

http://www.firstpost.com/topic/person/john-ward-dowsing-with-dr-john-r-ward-part-16mp4-video-JU3hnBXQOQ8-8587-34.html

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InquisitorX
1/19/2015 08:25:20 am

More dowsing from "Dr." John Ward. Notice at the very beginning the video has the original Sirius Project logo complete with Nazi SS ring.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WIfB1piB5I

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InquisitorX
1/19/2015 08:27:25 am

And another with the Nazi logo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_gSDUOj1V8

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Scotty Roberts link
1/19/2015 04:24:29 pm

You sure attempt to make a lot of hay out of nothing. You need to find a new bone to gnaw on.

And since no one knows who you are, you have no face to save. So give it up.

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InquisitorX
1/19/2015 11:27:07 pm

My identity isn't at issue. It is the true "identity" of Scotty Roberts and "Dr." John Ward that is at issue. Are they what they claim to be, or are they actually uneducated fringe types taking advantage of the gullible? The answer is pretty obvious, which is why you hate these threads.

Bill
1/19/2015 09:28:00 am

From what i gather looking around online, the dig John Ward claims to be a archaeologist, anthropologist and Egyptologist on is sponsored by Lund University in Sweden.

http://www.lunduniversity.lu.se/

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Scotty Roberts link
1/19/2015 10:02:59 am

That is correct.

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Scotty Roberts link
1/19/2015 04:18:59 pm

Dr. Maria Nilsson is the chief archaeologist at Gebel el Silsila. John Ward, her husband-and-father-to-their-child (not "boyfriend" or "boy-pal" as InquisitorX states it), works alongside her as the Topographical Specialist. They have a team of fifteen members who are all listed on their Gebel el Silsila webpage.

Their funding comes through Lund University.

http://www.ark.lu.se/en/person/MariaNilsson

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EP
1/19/2015 05:04:45 pm

toyboy?

EP
1/19/2015 05:20:25 pm

By the way, Scotty, calling John Ward a "Topographical Specialist" doesn't make him sound impressive. It only makes you sound pompous. Even Maria Nilsson on the project's blog calls him a mere "topographer" (no caps).

InquisitorX
1/19/2015 11:29:30 pm

And again, to emphasize what a joke that is...where is his degree from again?

Oh wait...he doesn't have one. His "doctorate" is a pretend one, just like he and Roberts are pretend archaeologists and historians.

Scotty Roberts link
1/20/2015 03:28:10 am

I keep forgetting, InquisitorX... he has no papered degree, so is a mental invalid. Got it.

EP
1/20/2015 07:46:55 am

John Ward is a dowser. He may not be a literal mental invalid, but he does play one in real life.

InquisitorX
1/19/2015 09:30:52 am

"Dr." John Ward's esoteric side.

http://www.esotericonline.net/profile/DrJohnWard

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EP
1/21/2015 07:09:05 am

"Dr" John Ward posted a status: "Can the "Constructed Consciousness" truly exist outside of the Physical Biological Form? I believe so."

LOL

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EP
1/19/2015 05:11:47 pm

Maria Nilsson is both hot and has a real doctorate. What she sees in that glorified carnie is beyond me.

Also, there is nothing unusual about an academic getting a menial job for their spouse at their place of work. Happens all the time. Though I suppose it would be worth seeing if someone at Lund is willing to comment on having a dowser working on a project of theirs, even as a flunkie.

Probably closest John Ward is ever going to come to a legitimate accomplishment, anyway.

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InquisitorX
1/19/2015 11:32:45 pm

It would be worth contacting Lund University and sharing with them Ward's activities and asking if they actually want their money paying for that. I doubt they even know what he really does, or that he claims to be an archaeologist, anthropologist, Egyptologist all based on his presence on their project. hmmm...

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Scotty Roberts link
1/20/2015 03:25:51 am

I think that would be an excellent idea, if for nothing else than to hear them call you an idiot in Swedish.

I'm A Jeffersonian
1/20/2015 04:36:34 am

That is the Scotty Roberts personality we're talking about. And yet we're not to believe you responded to the complain as the customer said you did.

Thanks for proving our point.

InquisitorX
1/20/2015 04:04:24 am

We'll see who they call idiot when they see his Nazi logo, his false claims, etc.

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Scotty Roberts link
1/20/2015 04:40:29 am

Yeah! Is your chest puffing out...?

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I'm A Jeffersonian
1/20/2015 04:47:51 am

I have to question the intelligence of someone who makes such challenges that could negatively impact their business partner. It demonstrates one thing for sure- your ego overrides your logical thinking skills, Roberts. Something some of us have long known.

EP
1/20/2015 07:45:33 am

Scotty Roberts often sounds as though he is genuinely convinced that noting he says can make people love him any less than he loves himself.

InquisitorX
1/20/2015 04:10:00 am

And this organization too.

http://www.sca-egypt.org/eng/main.htm

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EP
1/20/2015 07:49:01 am

Scotty Roberts better get more friends/sockpuppets to this thread. "Brad" alone can't hide the fact that Scotty Roberts doesn't deserve to be universally beloved.

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Brad
1/20/2015 11:59:24 am

"EP",

There you go putting my name in quotation marks again. I assume you're suggesting that I'm using a pseudonym or am someone other than who I claim to be. I've made no secret of the fact that I am a personal friend of Scotty Roberts. I have made that perfectly clear from the onset. If I hadn't established my personal connection in the beginning and had said anything positive about him, you would have proclaimed with righteous indignation that I was a friend or a fan. Since I've already gotten that out of the way, who or what are you suggesting I am now?

I have merely shared my personal experience garnered from a decade of friendship. I never wrote that Scotty should be universally beloved. I made a very reasonable statement that people should not be so hateful of someone that they have never met or spoke with personally. You're running decent, good people through the ringer based purely on opinion and hyperbole. It must be nice to bask in the glow of your computer screen and pass judgement so freely.

I'll clarify for you that though Scotty and I have discussed these threads and their comments several times, I was never asked to post here or intervene on his behalf nor did I even bring it up after having made the post. It wasn't until much later that he read my posts and told me that though they were appreciated, they were not necessary.

Scotty has a fan base and could no doubt drive people here to post if that were his prerogative; it's clearly not. Look around, these threads are populated by a darkness fueled by unreasonable critics and dissenters. A parade of thousands could post here upholding Scotty's character but that wouldn't be good enough either, you'd write them all off.

Instead, Scotty has chosen to defend himself, answering to his critics in a public forum. How many public figures would give you the time of day, answering barrage after barrage of the same questions and insults repeated over and over again? Along the same lines, would you be as responsive as Scotty if you were being publicly criticized or would you shutter it out and focus on the positive? Most would do the latter.

The big problem here, as I see it, is that there's a bunch of internet trolls all huddled up in one place firing criticism and judgement without providing any basis for the attacks. Since your primary complaint is the Scott and John don't have degrees, I've taken the liberty of assembling a list of other peoples that don't have degrees. You can troll their names after either you tire for your tantrum or Scotty stops listening.

Sean Connery - James Bond isn't real.

Richard Branson - Founded the fake record label Virgin Records and the fake
Virgin Atlantic airline.

Abraham Lincoln - Fake 16th President of the United States.

John D. Rockefeller - Founded the fake Standard Oil. Was worth a fake 1.5 Billion USD.

Rachel Ray - Fake 30 minute meals.

Bill Gates - Sold you a fake operating system.

Will Smith - You paid to see a fake movie.

Henry Ford - Someone should recall those fake cars.

Dave Thomas - Wendy's Founder. It tastes fake.

Here's 100 more when you bore of slandering the others: http://elitedaily.com/news/business/100-top-entrepreneurs-succeeded-college-degree/

When you're finished with that, you can get up and try doing something worthwhile with your own life instead of hurling rocks from your glass house.

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InquisitorX
1/20/2015 12:40:15 pm

This idiot actually compares a list of actors and business people (none of their fields requires a degree mind you) with Scotty Roberts and John Ward's fallacious claims to be historians, theologians, archaeologists, anthropologists and Egyptologists, all the while dowsing their way to tv fame and hoping to hide Roberts' philosophical connection to the racist Christian Identity theology and the use of the Nazi SS ring in Ward's logo.

Umm...yeah mate. I can totally see how Dave Thomas' burgers and Sean Connery's thespian career relate.

Bloody hell you're thick.

Brad
1/20/2015 12:59:09 pm

Who unilaterally decided that one must have a degree to be a historian, archaeologist, theologian, anthropologist, or Egyptologist? Did you make this ruling with the sanction of the Internet Court of Public Opinion?

If your opinion were that having a degree adds to a persons credibility, I would certainly agree. However, you, along with the aforementioned court, seem to assert that anyone in these professions without a degree is a fake.

Scotty Roberts link
1/20/2015 01:01:28 pm

InquisitorX,
Once again, you have simply ignored the detailed answer I gave to you regarding the Christian Identity movement.

On at least two different occasions over the last two months of interacting with you in these threads, I have clearly delineated the vast differences between what I wrote in an examination of Hebrew religious mythology and white supremest doctrine.

But you continue to chose to ignore the enormous difference, plodding on, instead, with your vapid charge. This is intellectual dishonesty on your part.

I believe you continue to repetitively post your charge in hopes that you can continue to mislead people.

InquisitorX
1/20/2015 01:08:24 pm

Roberts- You got your theories from Christian Identity racist sources, your mate used the Nazi SS ring as his logo (on purpose as you revealed in another thread after claiming he didn't do it), you claim Noah was "racially pure"...I've listened to interviews where you state this shit as FACT, nowhere giving a disclaimer that you don't believe it, and then you want people to believe you when you say you don't reallllly believe that.

Sorry mate, aint buying the shite you're peddling.

Brad
1/20/2015 01:14:34 pm

Since you seem to be, in your words, "too bloody thick" to understand why I chose to list the people I did, I'll explain it.

You see, there are alternate ways to obtain knowledge and wisdom in this world. While you're of the opinion that one must have a degree to know a subject, I'd say that's a fallacy at best. There are plenty of people that hold a bachelors, masters or doctorate while their knowledge still pales in comparison to some with experience.

People that work hard for things and achieve them are not pariahs. The fortitude to focus on a dream, roll up your sleeves and work for it is a lost art. It used to be far more common for people to work their way to success. I'll give you your point, they didn't show up on time for courses a few times a week and periodically test their ability to regurgitate trained phrases and articles back onto a piece of paper.

Instead, John Ward has actually worked hands-on at dig sites and has lived Egypt. Do you think perhaps, that he has learned more doing that or do you reckon he would have learned more about Egypt from a classroom 7,000 miles away taught by a professor who more than likely has never been to Egypt themselves?

Scotty Roberts story is no different. He's worked hard for the knowledge he's obtained. I take what you're saying to be that people without degrees are incapable of thought, learning and cannot be an authority on any subject. Is that what you're trying to tell me? If that's your view of the world than I'd argue that you're far more dense than I could ever hope to be.

InquisitorX
1/20/2015 01:24:13 pm

Ward is a glorified flunky. He got his job because his girl put him there, he has no qualifications, no education, can barely string a sentence together, isn't an archaeologist, isn't an anthropologist, isn't an Egyptologist.

He's a damn scuba diver who married an archaeologist and is making false claims of title and education. If we go on the standards you want us to (rather than those established by the recognizeed organizations that govern those fields) then anyone who carries dirt on an archaeological dig is an archaeologist, anyone who caters food on the dig is, any kid who ever did a junior curator dig is an archaeologist...it's a damn joke. Your absolute ignorance of the requirements for those fields is painfully obvious.

Again...surgery..put your money where your mouth is. I'll get a degree from a Templar club, work as a janitor in a hospital and claim to be a surgeon. Gonna go under the knife?

Something tells me your bullshit would cease to be as legit to you then. lol

Brad
1/20/2015 01:50:33 pm

That's not what I'm saying and you know it. I'm saying that the human spirit and mind is able to grow and learn things through experience. I'm saying that the kid on the junior curator dig might just ignite with passion, come back day after day and eventually harbor enough knowledge and learn enough from other archaeologists to one day grow in that capacity himself.

EP
1/20/2015 04:49:14 pm

Brad is awesome. He calls us "a bunch of internet trolls", then gives us exactly what "a bunch of internet trolls" would want :)

Scotty Roberts link
1/20/2015 01:06:38 pm

Sock puppets, EP? Please. I've moved on to marionettes.

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EP
1/20/2015 04:46:09 pm

The sad part is that you probably really believe that.

EP
1/20/2015 05:07:55 pm

"Rachel Ray - Fake 30 minute meals.
Bill Gates - Sold you a fake operating system.
Will Smith - You paid to see a fake movie.
...
Dave Thomas - Wendy's Founder. It tastes fake."

This, but unironically.

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Brad
1/20/2015 06:12:39 pm

I'm going to concede to you on this one.

InquisitorX
1/20/2015 01:03:28 pm

The field of archaeology,anthropology and Egyptology has determined that over a lengthy history of the respective fields.

For you to even ask such a question demonstrates how ethically bankrupt you have to be to defend such blatant fraud.

Tell ya' what,mate. Since you're so damn sure a degree isn't necessary to be considered legitimate and valid, how about you let me perform heart surgery on you. I can get a degree from a Templar club, work in a hospital as a janitor and say I'm a heart surgeon. It's just as legit as Ward and Roberts.

Idiot.

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InquisitorX
1/20/2015 01:10:30 pm

The above is for "Brad"- Roberts' very own Don Quixote.

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Brad
1/20/2015 01:20:28 pm

I take exception to questionable truths. You're really likening open-heart surgery to the study of ancient cultures? Tell me, who dies if ancient history is skewed from time to time before we get it right? That's happened through the course of history. You're really reaching pal.

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InquisitorX
1/20/2015 01:29:52 pm

It isn't reaching at all. Who dies if some dumbass who isn't an archaeologist tries to rewrite history? Maybe nobody. Maybe a completely screwed up version of history propels a culture into genocide or war. But beyond that, the point I made demonstrates the fallacy of your position. If education isn't important, and we can just claim to be whatever we want to be just by proximity to the field, then someone can claim to be a surgeon and be as legit as Ward and Roberts. You can't have it both ways. Either your position is sound (and it isn't) or its as full of shit as you, Ward and Roberts. I think we can all see how stupid your position is.

Brad
1/20/2015 02:03:21 pm

I didn't claim education wasn't important. Rather, I correctly asserted that there is more than one way to obtain an education. For you to deny the incontrovertible truth that people can be capable without degrees is inane.

EP
1/20/2015 04:59:00 pm

And John Ward has effectively failed in all of them.

InquisitorX
1/20/2015 01:17:24 pm

For "Brad"'s benefit, who seems completely lost as to who says one needs a degree to be an archaeologist, anthropologist and Egyptologist. Read it and learn something.

http://education-portal.com/articles/Archaeologist_Educational_Requirements_for_a_Career_in_Archaeology.html

http://work.chron.com/major-needed-become-archaeologist-8304.html

http://www.saa.org/ForthePublic/FAQs/ForStudents/tabid/101/Default.aspx

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Brad
1/20/2015 01:25:37 pm

Mind-blowing stuff Inquisitor. Yes, "typically" and "generally" degrees are required for this work. Is that what you're trying to establish, typicality and generality?

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InquisitorX
1/20/2015 01:31:30 pm

Apparently you missed the parts where they stated "requirements". Nice try though, moron.

Brad
1/20/2015 01:53:44 pm

Apparently you lack the fundamental understanding that requirements have been substituted for experience in almost every career path in human history, ever. Medicine excluded (for your benefit, since that seems to be your go-to argument).

EP
1/20/2015 04:58:19 pm

Apparently *you* lack the fundamental understanding that John Ward's work (dowsing, etc.) is sufficient to establish his incompetence independently of his lack of any non-fake academic credentials.

Brad
1/20/2015 06:11:29 pm

I was addressing the requirement of a degree to work in certain fields. For the sake of this post it was archaeology, anthropology and Egyptology specifically. The fundamental understanding I was referring to is that most careers allow candidates, applicants or incumbents to off-set education with real world experience.

John Ward's experience is comprised of much more than dowsing. Further, his doctorate is honorary and he's never claimed it to be anything but that. I highly doubt that you're qualified to evaluate Ward's academic value of his experience.

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Only Me
1/20/2015 07:07:49 pm

I understand that the rules governing honorary degrees differ by institution and even country, but the general custom is that the recipient of an officially awarded and recognized honorary degree lists such as an award, not an educational achievement. It is also customary that the recipient only uses the title "Doctor" within an academic setting, but again, that varies.

Since John's degree is not officially recognized and was not awarded by an accredited institution, would it be fair to say that press releases/advertisements, like the one Jason included in his article, are misleading when they refer to him as "Dr. John Ward"? This is more an issue of credibility than experience. Experience has its place, but when someone is introduced as "Dr.", that becomes a selling point in determining how much weight is given to the individual's statements.

InquisitorX
1/20/2015 01:33:43 pm

By the way, we're going to find out what the University of Lund and the Council of Egyptian Antiquities think as well. Wanna bet money they don't buy into your stupid theory, "Brad"?

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Brad
1/20/2015 01:59:43 pm

It's your argument, not mine and now you expect me to do the leg work for you too?

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Scotty Roberts link
1/20/2015 03:36:58 pm

At Karnak Temple, John dowsed the great ramps out front. The results were accepted at the time, then exploited. They later returned and excavated on the basis, in part, of John’s dowsing. The results were verified and established.

As a result of that dowsing, he was later invited to dowse The Lost Chapel at Luxor and the results were verified and accepted as valid.

He also dowsed by invitation at Mendat Habu to map out a greater underground, as-of-yet only partially excavated series of rooms and passages between the pylon and the Nileometers of Nectanebo. Ward, incidentally, took me to the same site and showed me how to dowse the same chambers he had mapped out. It was a fairly intriguing experience seeing the rods in my hands turn corners, find doorways, and trace the lines of passageways.

Never has Ward puffed out his chest and laid claim to anything at Karnak nor Luxor Temples. Listen for yourself and see if you gage his words as pompous, arrogant or in any way akin to what you’d like people to believe by your words about this interview above.

Also in this interview, Ward was asked about his credentials, to which he openly stated that he was completely NON-institutionally credentialed, and that his doctorate was given to him as a result of doing symbolism work by the Templar organization.

You listen and gage him by his own words.


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Because, EP, you have the ability to think. Just look at the original post by Herrera - one of seven signers of a petition. He was chiming in with the writer of the petition, and in a mere seven words encapsulated his interpretation of what was probably a phone conversation with me. I just conducted a search of my 266 archived customer emails from that period, and there is no Terrance Herrera, so I have to assume it was a phone conversation.

I, on the other hand, was the new EID/PR guy at the Mag, working to help restore the mag's reputation after it had not published nor satisfied its subscriber's in nearly a year.

And in about two months, I managed to keep all the current 8000 subscribers on board, as well as gain new ones, save for a small handful.

Using rhetoric like that ascribed to me by Herrera's seven word "quote" is not how one handles customer PR, nor is it how I work as a representative of a company.

Sure, I had to be very diplomatic, and I even used lightheartedness where I could to regain those who were going to jump ship. Speaking ill to a customer is not how that would be accomplished.

What I said to Herrera, I said to many people during that first two months on board at TAPS. So while I cannot quote myself precisely, I know for a fact how I handled those delicate situations - and it was not with vitriolic rhetoric.

My job was to make people happy about wanting to stay there, not drive them away.


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TIP: They aren't an internet blog. Use your real name with them. They might think more of your war on Ward if you come off a bit more real and concerned.

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I read the link and listened to the interview, long ago.

You still failing to see where you have exaggerated what was said in order to make your point? I see nothing on the link where Ward is claiming to have made "great discoveries."

Its your wording that I brought to question, not the link's contents.

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Jeffersonian,
You are confusing my responses on lengthy blogs revolving around personal attacks and criticism versus conversations with customers in a rebuilding effort at the mag. These are two wholly different things.

The seven words listed by Harrera as my quote to him, hardly comprises what would have been a much lengthier conversation in helping to solve his problems with the mag. And in a search through my old TAPS archives - hundreds of emails - I find no emails from anyone named Terrance Herrera, so the original conversation must have been by phone. TAPS did not even have a phone connected to the mag when I stepped in, so I published my personal mobile to all subscribers so they knew they had a live person they could contact.

Herrera is also a signer of a seven-person petition, chiming in with another angry TAPS subscriber, from four years ago. Chances are that his conversation with me took place six years ago, in that four years ago, I had already left TAPS.

My recollection of my conversation with Herrera is that it was not negative, but he, having an axe to grind, obviously wanted to state things as per his own perspective. He was free to do that.

I am not questioning what he quoted, but rather attesting to what he did not quote - my end of that conversation. And what he writes as my seven word quote would simply not be my style in a customer service/PR setting.

Again, I have to ask how well you really think you know me. You attest to having had a negative experience with me, adding in that there are additional people who feel the same way. Yet, I have no idea who you are, what it is I may have done to you, but your word is accepted as absolu

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EP
1/20/2015 04:52:24 pm

Counterpoint: Dowsing isn't real and anyone who claims otherwise is an idiot and/or a crook. And anyone who defends such claims deserves to be publicly mocked and exposed in the most amusing ways available.

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Scotty Roberts link
1/20/2015 05:56:57 pm

Like Shell Oil.

EP
1/20/2015 06:12:07 pm

Scotty Roberts: "If a big oil company does something, it is no longer laughable or contemptible."

LOL

Scotty Roberts link
1/20/2015 06:49:58 pm

Parting p.p.s. for you, EP...

"Is Dowsing A Useful Tool For Serious Scientific Research?"
Jeffrey S. Keen, BSc Hons ARCS MInstP CPhys
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.348.5171&rep=rep1&type=pdf

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And, of course, to be fair, the counterpoint...

"Dowsing and Archaeology"
MARTIJN VAN LEUSEN
Groningen Institute of Archaeology, University of Groningen, Poststraat 6,9712 ER Groningen, The Netherlands
https://www.academia.edu/1932821/Dowsing_and_archaeology

EP
1/20/2015 07:26:31 pm

Scottie Roberts: "Someone out there defended dowsing. Therefore it's totally not retarded bullshit. After all, retarded bullshit is never defended by anyone ever. For more on that, see Paradigm Symposium."

Scotty Roberts link
1/20/2015 07:42:58 pm

You forgot to add the website, EP...
www.paradigmsymposium.com

Scotty Roberts link
1/20/2015 03:40:46 pm

Well, pardon that last mish-mash of various posts that have already been posted here by me. I somehow copied and pasted them all from another window.

Here is what I meant to post...

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What I am impressed most by the two or three regular followers of these threads, is that there is no answer that is good enough to any question or charge posited.

"Religion and Politics" by any other name is still religion and politics. Everyone believes what they want to believe, and no one is open enough to accept that the other side to the argument might have some valid points.

I will admit that I am sometimes driven by the debate - or the fight - and that keeps me engaged. And sometimes it is the desire to attempt to answer to things as best as possible. I am guilty of both.

EP, Only Me, and even InquisitorX have had legitimate questions from time to time. Other times, they seem to simply enjoy stirring the pot or fomenting hate, ignoring any answer - because, again, no answer is good enough. I don't understand that element to anonymous posting. Are you here to discuss and dialog or to just criticize and malign?

This thread has nowhere else to go.

If you want to criticize for the sake of criticism, what's the value in that. People posting here say they want answers to their criticisms, then on the other hand, they view any answer as not good enough, thus elevating their own words higher than the others. I am guilty of that, too.

I have done my best to answer questions. But I have also learned that threads like this do not exist to find answers. They exist to spew dislike, dogma and character assassination, with few exceptions. Such noble goals.

And the only reason I have ever harped on the anonymity issue, is because most people - unless they are sociopaths of one sort or another - would be more measured and civilized if they, themselves, had to withstand the scrutiny of being known by name. It IS an accountability issue.

I have no problem with criticism, as long as there is decent debate and dialog. What is problematic with threads like this one, is that it condones character assassination under the veil of anonymity. That crosses lines, and is something we all would decry were it done on official or even governmental levels. Yet there seems to be a tacit approval of that sort of activity in this sort of forum, when we would consider it vile in other instances.

Opining is perfectly fine and good. Criticizing with the expectation of dialog is how we all learn in one form or another, and that is also a good thing. But damning other people because you believe you are better than they, makes these sorts of interactions disgusting on many levels.

This will be my final post on this thread. All questions have been answered ad infinitum. As for charges and character assassination attempts, they are what they are, and there is never any good that stems from that, despite there being sated expressions of derision.

As always, if you want to continue in private, you are certainly free to contact me personally.

Cheers!
Scotty
scottalanroberts@gmail.com
(651) 468-8115

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EP
1/20/2015 04:53:57 pm

TL;DR: Scotty Roberts, attempting to get the hell out of dodge while representing himself as having some dignity to preserve thereby.

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Scotty Roberts link
1/20/2015 05:59:03 pm

I wondered who'd be the first to say I was running away. You win.

Only Me
1/20/2015 04:57:30 pm

Huh. I made a joke referencing Spaceballs and asked a question. Now, I'm guilty of a whole list of sins.

I admit I'm confused, but if that's how you honestly feel, so be it.

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EP
1/20/2015 05:00:30 pm

"how you honestly feel"

Your sense of humor is what I like the most about you, Only Me :)

Scotty Roberts link
1/20/2015 06:01:31 pm

P.S. Sorry, Only Me... you have been nothing but decent and fair. I appreciate that. Sorry I messed that up in the post above. Cheers.

Only Me
1/20/2015 06:52:08 pm

No problem, Mr. Roberts.

Scotty Roberts link
1/20/2015 07:06:44 pm

Only Me,
You can call me "Dr. Roberts."

Just kidding, everybody else. Calm down, now. ;)

EP
1/20/2015 04:56:33 pm

Anyone who brings word from Lund University or its affiliates regarding their involvement with a racially insensitive dowser "Dr", shall receive an Honorary MSc, to be bestowed by yours truly! (As well as +10 Internets.)

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Bill
1/21/2015 01:24:12 am

Scotty Roberts isn't that far from Ward and his dowsing. Roberts is a Tarot Card reader. lolol

http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2012/07/its-all-in-the-cards-tarot-reading-and-the-human-psyche/

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EP
1/21/2015 04:55:52 am

OMG A Tarot reading of Micah Hanks by Scotty Roberts!

InquisitorX
1/21/2015 08:13:55 am

That explains his defense of dowsing. haha

How much more stupid can these two get?

InquisitorX
1/20/2015 11:23:40 pm

Working on it.

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EP
1/21/2015 06:58:32 am

John Ward, ladies and gentlemen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozfmxodxLa8

I cannot stop watching this.

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InquisitorX
1/21/2015 08:19:24 am

bahahaha!

He just kept walking in circles because the rods told him to. lolol

Love the orange pants too.

Did you see "IntrepidParadigmRadio"'s comment on the video? That can only have been posted by Scotty Roberts.

These two are clowns.

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InquisitorX
1/21/2015 08:22:38 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFp4zUATYF4

"Dr." John Ward claims to find a vortex. lololololol

You can't make this stuff up!

Camilla
4/23/2017 04:42:43 pm

Thank you so much for the info! It was evident just by watching him that he was a fake ! Too good.

Thank you for confirming

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