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Idaho Shooter Wanted to Ask Pres. Obama to Fight "Martians" in American and Israeli Governments

3/9/2016

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A former Marine whom police described as having a history of mental illness shot and wounded a pastor who had recently prayed at a Ted Cruz rally before the shooter flew to Washington in an attempt to deliver documents to the White House. According to news reports, Kyle Odom, 30, believed that prominent U.S. and Israeli officials are secretly Martians, and he demanded that Pres. Obama take stronger action against the Jewish-space alien forces that he felt ruined his life.
 
Odom identified dozens of members of Congress and the entire Israeli government as space aliens, adding that there were “too many” Israeli Martians to list.
There is of course a risk that discussing Odom’s beliefs could be seen as exploitative, given his apparent mental condition. However, he is not the first person to have made news while acting on delusional belief in aliens, and I feel that his beliefs provide some interesting information about how disturbed individuals make use of pop culture pseudo-history and pseudoscience to give shape to their delusions. In this case, the influence of ancient astronaut and ufology literature and media is painfully apparent, particularly in its David Icke and Jim Marrs forms, descended from Richard Shaver’s claims.
 
According to a manifesto Odom prepared, which was made public by KHQ-TV, he had planned a killing spree to take out people he felt were Martians or were under Martian mind control. He believed that the pastor he shot was a reptilian alien, whose eyes were “huge and bulging, the eyelids were darker green, and the irises were yellow/brown with slit pupils.” In a caption to an accompanying drawing, Odom described the aliens as looking like “Muppets.” Here is how he depicted one:
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The image is notably similar to internet images of Reptilian aliens, as well as to images of Mesopotamian art reproduced in ancient astronaut books and websites, like this one:
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Odom claimed that the pastor he shot threatened him through Bible verses sent by text message, and he described hearing voices that he interpreted as telepathic messages from aliens, which escalated to heterosexual and homosexual alien-human sexual fantasies and what he believed to be uncontrollable psychic sexual stimulation of his body. These sexual experiences were paired with revelations from the aliens that humans are their genetic creation. Odom claimed that he experienced so much sexual abuse from the aliens that he attempted suicide.
 
Odom said he first made contact with trans-dimensional beings through meditation, just as Graham Hancock alleged that altered states of consciousness allowed him to interact with trans-dimensional beings, who also attacked him.
 
In claims reminiscent of people suffering from paranoia, Odom said that he was being followed, that the aliens tried and failed to control his mind, and that his actions were being sabotaged. His claims about Martians were woven into a narrative of personal failure related to his inability to find work and the difficulties he experienced in college, graduate school, and pharmacy school. Although an outside observer would attribute these setbacks he described to mental illness, Odom placed blame outside himself, and beyond the Earth.
 
In a letter Odom attempted to deliver to Pres. Obama last night, he told the president that he knew that Obama was in contact with a space alien who claimed to love Obama and he asked Obama why he let the aliens “humiliate” him instead of taking action against them.
 
In his manifesto, Odom described himself as “100% sane, 0% crazy” before detailing his ancient astronaut theory, which involved amphibious humanoids similar to Oannes, the infamous fish-magician of Babylonian myth promoted as an amphibious space alien in ancient astronaut literature. Odom believes that Martians live within the Earth and the moon, have highly advanced technology, and use human beings as sex slaves and breeding stock. He describes them as “arrogant” and claims they have the ability to travel between dimensions.
 
Odom’s version of Martians quite closely tracks stereotypes about gender. He identifies Martian males as hypersexual, hyper-aggressive, and obsessed with power and control. Oddly, he did not describe female Martians but did claim that the God of the Bible was a space alien. “Martians are responsible for the God myth,” he said, adding that we must resist the Martians to save the Earth from suffering the same catastrophic destruction that ruined the environment on Mars.
 
All of these claims can be found in ancient astronaut literature, particularly the work of David Icke and Jim Marrs, and on the television shows Ancient Aliens and Unsealed: Alien Files. While we obviously cannot place blame at the hands of these media, and disturbed individuals will turn to whatever is at hand, the close mixture of ancient astronaut, anti-Semitic, and New Age claims in Odom’s delusions is unlikely to have arisen independently of the fringe media stew. It is testament to the pervasiveness of fringe ideas that they have become a substitute mythology that individuals weave into their personal narratives.
55 Comments
Clete
3/9/2016 12:41:38 pm

I always believed that one of the two Senators we have from the State of Utah is from an alien planet sent here to destroy the citizens of the United States. He claims to be from Pittsburgh, but I personally don't believe him.

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lurkster
3/9/2016 12:50:05 pm

What happens in Pittsburgh, seldom stays in Pittsburgh.

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Flynn
3/9/2016 03:33:48 pm

Especially our barely human politicians, I feel bad about Santorum spawning from here.

Only Me
3/9/2016 12:49:36 pm

Sadly, I think Odom was just another step in a line of thinking that begins with "It wouldn't be on TV/the Internet if it wasn't true."

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Tiakka
3/10/2016 02:54:05 am

This is, where we have to step in, teach our children to be skeptic about the "facts" presented in a special manner. I somehow understand, that my father stil thinks, TV is reliable. He grew up with the first steps of television, and the earnest trustwothy (seeming) newsmen back then.

But the generation now is surrounded by tonns of information, and non information,. My 9 year old son, an animal addict, who knows a great deal of detailed facts about rare species, already stumbled upon some youtube "documentaries" about animals. Came crying to my room, afraid of these monsters, who apparently live in the sea, But afterwards we had a real good chat about facts and emotional manipulation, and ended up making our own video mocking these videos.
But it is clear that even an intelligent child can not distinguish fact and fiction at this level, it needs our help. This is what teaching "medial skills" is also about.

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DaveR
3/9/2016 01:08:58 pm

Odom hit it all. Jewish conspiracy. Government conspiracy. Religious conspiracy. Shape shifting aliens. Telepathic communications. Mind control. Following him and sabotaging his life. Inter dimensional beings.

He hits on many of the far out alien claims you can find on the net. It's like he took it all in, and then wrapped it into a complete framework that he acted upon.

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RLewis
3/9/2016 01:36:59 pm

Bernie Sander = Jewish Alien. Now it's all starting to make sense,

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Donald B. Miller
3/9/2016 02:32:50 pm

Now you tell me, I voted for him! But, if true, why is he against GMO and GE products? You'd think aliens would be all over that.

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Gary
3/11/2016 06:45:58 am

The aliens want us to go all organic so that we can start having mass famines again.

Kal
3/9/2016 01:48:43 pm

The sketch looks like the Grinch. Could be this guy had a bad nightmare seeing the Grinch as a child, and this is all in his head from there.

The media will no doubt not label him a 'terrorist' even though he attempted terror on someone, because he doesn't fit their profiling. He does seem like he needs medical help.

We have probes on Mars. Martians are hardly a thing. We know there's nothing like us there. Then again the conspiracy theorists, and I've met some, seem t5o think that too is a conspiracy.

It's a no win scenario.

At least he's disguised his prejudices as 'aliens did it' instead of the 'enter ethnic group here' did it.

Also the TV series V seems to have inspired generations of reptile alien conspiracies.

I can see how some conspiracy people might think Trump is an alien, but he's probably merely an android sleeper agent. Just kidding.

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Kal
3/9/2016 01:50:35 pm

I am not advocating any form of violence or in making fun of this obviously distorted and demented person that should seek help.

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Time Machine
3/9/2016 02:16:29 pm

>>>All of these claims can be found in ancient astronaut literature<<<

Ditto the Bible...

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Ken
3/9/2016 02:25:08 pm

I'm pretty sure that many (millions) more people have been killed by bible (or koran) literalists than have been by ancient alien believers.

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Time Machine
3/9/2016 02:38:01 pm

And I repeat --- Barack Obama undid all the military campaigns in Afghanistan against the Taleban and Al Qaeda by not stopping ISIL and the spread of Islamic fundamentalism.

Had Barack Obama done that the atrocities in Paris would never have happened.

tm
3/9/2016 05:36:07 pm

Poor Bobo. Do you salivate when you think of Margaret Thatcher?

Yawn...

Time Machine
3/9/2016 07:23:57 pm

Poor tm

Yawn

tm
3/9/2016 08:19:46 pm

Echolalia: Meaningless repetition of another person's words as a symptom of psychiatric disorder.

I guess the Thatcher comment hit too close to home.

Day Late and Dollar Short
3/10/2016 09:46:51 am

Dear Time Machine,

Fuuuuuuuuck you. Stay on topic or get the fuck out.

"And I repeat --- Barack Obama undid all the military campaigns in Afghanistan against the Taleban and Al Qaeda by not stopping ISIL and the spread of Islamic fundamentalism.

Had Barack Obama done that the atrocities in Paris would never have happened."

That statement is not even remotely close to the topic at hand. Shut the fuck up. Please.

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Christine Erikson link
3/13/2016 11:38:24 am

not really. And YHWH gave warnings against dealing with the false gods and demons. most entheogens are to ennable such contact. screws with your natural shielding.

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Time Machine
3/9/2016 07:43:50 pm

>>anti-Semitic<<

Pierre-André Taguieff, "Rising From the Muck: The New Anti-Semitism in Europe" (Ivan R. Dee, 2004)

Never since the close of World War II have anti-Jewish sentiments gained such currency in France among so many different social groups. Never have these sentiments been so publicly expressed and met so little intellectual and political resistance as they have since the year 2000. As the number of anti-Jewish incidents escalates, the anti-racist demonstrations that ordinarily would respond to them are nowhere in sight.

In Rising from the Muck, Pierre-Andre Taguieff raises questions about this shockingly common acceptance of anti-Semitic attitudes and behavior. He surveys the landscape of contemporary anti-Semitism from his position on the scene, describing its leading figures and the role played by the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians. He analyzes in detail the Islamist influence in promoting anti-Zionism, and the blindess, complacency, or complicity of various French institutions, groups, and individuals.

The new wave of anti-Semitism spreading around the world, Mr. Taguieff shows, is based on a polemical and fanciful amalgam of Jews, Israelis, and "Zionists" as representatives of an evil power. In the eyes of the new anti-Jews, the world's ills can be explained by Israel's existence. The chief occupation, purveyed especially by international Islamist circles and the heirs to Third Worldism, is that "Zionism," far from being a respectable nationalism like that of the Palestinians, is actually a form of colonialism, imperialism, and racism. The old European anti-Semitism, the author notes, was a particular kind of racism, directed against Jews. The new worldwide anti-Semitism seeks to turn the charge of racism against the Jews.

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Uncle Ron
3/9/2016 07:53:49 pm

I knew that sounded far too lucid and intelligent to have come from you, Time Machine. You cut & pasted it from the dust jacket summary at Amazon. You probably haven't even read the book.

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Time Machine
3/9/2016 07:59:27 pm

Uncle Ron,

You are right that I haven't read the book and that I copied and pasted the synopsis -- congratulations, you are a genius !!

However, I do know that both the Right and Left Wings are anti-Semitic even today (irrespective of the fact that times have changed in respect to getting important jobs in society and look at Sarkozy)....

It's remarkable how many famous French household names of the past were actively anti-Semitic - Maurice Barrès, Jules Verne...




Time Machine
3/9/2016 08:11:27 pm

The point is this: Anti-Semitism still exists today in normal everyday society. Synagogues still get vandalised in France in 2016.

You don't have to go looking for anti-Semitism in fringe history.

tm
3/9/2016 10:40:04 pm

So ... you're clarifying your plagiarized comments?

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...yawn...

Time Machine
3/10/2016 01:48:15 am

Yawn tm,

tm standing for totally ,mental.

Tiem Machine
3/10/2016 01:50:42 am

And Uncle Ron and rm,

In future, I will indicate ALL copying and pasting of synopses just to block your piffling rubbish

tm
3/10/2016 02:09:05 am

A primary school insult? You copy that from someplace too?

Can't wait to read your clarification of that one...yawn.

Time Machine
3/10/2016 03:09:12 am

Anti-Semitism ultimately originates from the New Testament, and that is fringe history that is not worth the paper it's written on -- it cannot even be traced back to the first century. Anyone who thinks that the New Testament is not fringe history has got to be joking, It does not take much to reach the conclusion that it's all contrived.

The origin of the difference between the Jews and the Christians stems from the Roman Occupation of Palestine and those Jews that collaborated with Rome and those that rebelled against Roman Occupation --- just like the Vichy regime in France during World War Two.

Those Jews that collaborated with the Romans were based in the Jerusalem Temple. Those that rebelled against the Romans were based on the outskirts of Jerusalem.

There was no difference between religion and politics during that era. Sometime during the Roman occupation a band of extremist Jews developed that thought they could bring God down to Earth to sort things out by supernatural means to form a new Jerusalem.

It's on this (pathetic) historical basis that Christianity originated (with a little assistance and inspiration from the Holy Anointing Oil) and how Anti-Semitism first originated.

The supernatural stories in the Gospels were a later development of the second century, devised by the second generation of Christians. Christianity developed a second life of its own following the annihilation of Judaea and the Jerusalem Temple and, possibly linked to the attempted Bar-Kokba revolt that dates from the same period as the Gospel fragments.

Christian fundamentalism is to blame for the origin of Anti-Semitism - at first to do with the Roman Occupation, later to do with the romantic revision of its beliefs and the creation of new texts.

If you don't believe the Gospels are contrived, compare them with the letters of Paul. Two completely different versions of Christianity that cannot be reconciled together. One set of texts has Jesus Christ representing the collective consciousness (first century), another set of texts depicting him as a Son-of-God prophet and miracle-worker (second century).

Time Machine
3/10/2016 03:35:54 am

Since neither Biblical scholars or Atheists/Humanists/Agnostics can be relied upon about giving information about the origin of Christianity, I'll consider putting together my own account of the subject matter on PDF for a next-to-nothing price on Amazon. The subject matter is not complicated, and can be easily explained and understood.

To date, no-one has provided a definitive definition of Christianity, since its origin.

Clint Knapp
3/10/2016 08:15:28 am

Seriously? We don't need your half-baked description of what anti-semitism is just because you happened to cherry-pick the term out of the day's post.

Just more useless spam.

For a bonus: No one cares about France, the connection you allege it has with Enlightenment-Driving Freemasons, or... pretty much any other useless factoid you troll up about the country. Get over it already.

An Over-Educated Grunt
3/10/2016 08:44:25 am

"Mainstream scholars cannot be trusted with Biblical history, I ALONE clearly understand the truth about it!"

"Freemasonry orchestrated the French Revolution as part of a Europe-wide scheme to institute rational thought!"

"Freemasons control the French government to this very day!"

"Posters on this board are sockpuppeting to make me look bad!"

... But of course, you don't have a conspiratorial mindset.

Time Machine
3/10/2016 09:05:36 am

Over Educated Ignorant,

Of course, the Magna Carta is proof that democracy existed during the 13th century.

Carry on discussing the death of Roberto Calvi without mentioning Propaganda Due - and of course Freemasonry is nothing else but Manly P. Hall, Albert Mackey and A. E. Waite.

What an ignoramus you are Under Educated Grunt - the link between Freemasonry and the French Revolution is NOT a disputed subject matter in France, the Roman Catholic Religion was demolished following the beheading of King Louis XVI and replaced with the Cult of the Goddess of Reason. The Grand Orient during the 1930s was still hostile to Church interests, wishing to close private schools (which were predominantly Catholic), or failing that to reintroduce an insistence that only state schools could provide civil servants.

And the link between the Grand Orient and French Parliament is still as strong as ever. In April 2008, when the legitimacy of the anti-cult ministerial group (MIVILUDES) was questioned, the Great Master of the Order Jean-Michel Quillardet intervened personally with the President of the French parliament in order to maintain its activity

France is an atheistic and actively anti-religious country.

Time Machine
3/10/2016 09:19:52 am

English language historians won't mention openly that France is an atheistic country or about its links with the Grand Orient - also English language historians when referring to the French Revolution mention the abolition of the French monarchy but not the abolition of the Roman Catholic church in France that was also a part of the French Revolution.

Over Educated Grunt has not followed any of this up at all, instead choosing to behave like a complete idiot.

An Over-Educated Grunt
3/10/2016 09:25:58 am

Good grief, you're tiresome.

The entire reason I cut back posting here to basically nothing is because it winds up being the same thing, over and over and over, and it's always you hijacking a discussion to talk about your pet hobby horses. So, since your level of discussion is clearly grade-school level (as much as you pretend to an education, you stoop to insult as soon as challenged, and act like there's something fundamentally wrong with anyone who disagrees with you), here we go again. You're an idiot, a shallow simpleton who pretends at depth while ignoring any facts which do not fit his worldview. You've never substantively responded to a single time someone has challenged said worldview, and routinely distort the positions of anyone who disagrees with you (for instance, the Magna Carta doesn't provide proof of democracy, but it does provide proof of restriction on royal authority and a requirement for legislative assembly, which, when you claim Europe was all absolute monarchs all the time, is an important distinction). Your understanding of history is skin-deep at best, neglects pivotal events when they disagree with your narrative, and instead insists on harping on what you think is important. This would be fine, if you admitted as much and could consider the alternative, but you don't. You deride academics and historians routinely, right up to the moment you need them for support, but since your own arguments lack any originality or depth whatsoever, they can't stand without the same support you routinely undercut. You repeat yourself endlessly without adding anything; I no longer see any point to engaging with you on any level. At this point, you're so useless I wouldn't use a word you write for toilet paper.

Time Machine
3/10/2016 12:33:22 pm

>>> grade-school level<<<

That must be some grade-school level.

On the one-hand it's that, on the other hand everything is "wrong" enough for you to launch insults.

Only Me
3/10/2016 02:55:00 pm

Your comment about the origin of anti-Semitism, which includes your opinion about Christianity's origin, is completely undermined by the following excerpts from one of your own previous statements:

"There were different versions of Christianity to choose from and nobody knows anything with any certainty about how Christianity originated in the first century."

"There was no central organisation to secure and enforce uniformity of belief in early Christianity so the unbiased and objective origin of the religion is lost to us. The same thing applies to first century Judaism the various factions of which were discovered in the Dead Sea Scrolls"

If you hold both positions as true, you're guilty of double-think. If you hold your latest assertion as true, you're not just contradicting yourself, you've falsified yet another assertion you made about the origins of Christianity and Judaism: drugs.

That's three separate claims for the origins of Christianity and Judaism.

Time Machine
3/10/2016 03:56:03 pm

>>>That's three separate claims for the origins of Christianity and Judaism.<<<


No it's not.

What I wrote was a superficial description of the historical facts. There were numerous variations of both Christianity and Judaism in existence during the first century --- this is indicated right from the get-go of Paul's Letters who deals with Christians who do not celebrate the mass in a respectful way. However, this does not alter the historical context.

It's known that these various forms of Christianity originated somewhere before 50 AD taking Paul's letters as a guide. However, the letters of Paul just do not give any precise details about how the Christian movement originated, and what's more these letters cannot be trusted because the earliest fragments only date from the third century. Nevertheless, Paul's letters show that disputes about the nature of Christianity existed between different groups at a very early stage. Apart from the problems to do with celebrating mass, Paul's letters show the dispute over whether non-Jews should be converted to Christianity, that Peter was against.

None of this alters the fact that Paul and Peter were rejected by the Jews of the Jerusalem Temple, and that both were regarded as enemies of Rome and of Judaea. This shows that they they resisted the Roman occupation through religion, and they believed in supernatural divine intervention from God. The testimony of the Dead Sea Scrolls, dating from before the Christian era, shows that various Jewish groups were at odds with each other, and also believed in divine intervention from God to abolish the Roman occupation. This leads to the possibility that these early Jewish beliefs eventually developed into what became Christianity.

About the sacrament, the Eucharist was just the Christian version of the Jewish Passover Seder meal, celebrated by ordinary worshippers although it's indicated within certain texts that Christians were guilty of sacrilige by breaking the Old Testament Law over this meal. They shared around themselves a version of the meal that was forbidden by ordinary Jews. Knowledge about drugs was all-important (the identity of the Holy Anointing Oil, the recipe for which is found in the Old Testament, is immaterial) --- but it was not the central reason behind the existence of Christianity --- which would have been the intervention of God to overthrow the Roman occupation and to bring about a new Jerusalem. The earliest Christians were pathetic and desperate believers in this apocalyptic desire and they failed miserably --- but the myths they created triumphed among the peoples in the Roman Empire, which would not have worked had Christianity been confined to strictly Jews (the religion would have perished). Who these earliest Christians were and what were their names --- this is lost.

Only Me
3/10/2016 04:21:28 pm

You must understand that your separate statements could be confusing for readers that might not follow the commentary on every blog post. I was hoping you would clarify your thoughts, and you did.

Time Machine
3/10/2016 08:52:40 am

Clint Knapp,

Let the French speak for themselves about Anti-Semitism in their own country, like for example Pierre-André Taguieff. director of research at the French National Centre for Scientific Research in an Institut d'Etudes Politiques de Paris laboratory

And there's also the whole Eastern European Bloc to consider, still as Anti-Semitic today as ever before.

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Clint Knapp
3/10/2016 06:24:53 pm

Again; no one cares.

No one disputes anti-semitism exists, no one said anything about it in relation to France but you, and you are still wildly off-topic and still pretending anyone finds your comments relevant at all.

You plucked a single term out of a post about something entirely unrelated to the nonsense you decided you wanted to rant about today and went from there.

Enough.

If you have such "deep" insights to the world and how it "really" is, then start your own blog and spew your inane bullshit there instead of spamming up someone else's hard work.

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Time Machine
3/10/2016 07:53:28 pm

Clint Knapp,

I think nobody cares about your opinions.
I think you have inane bullshit and that you spam this board.

Time Machine
3/10/2016 08:09:55 pm

Putting Clint Knapp into perspective

Anti-Semitism in the 21st Century: The Resurgence
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0950485/
Written and directed by Andrew Goldberg

Kal
3/10/2016 11:22:35 am

I thought this was all about some terrorist guy who sketched a picture of a Grinch like reptilian, having nothing to do with any of that other stuff, before going on a tirade. It has nothing to do with whatever 'fallacious round robin pop science' the thread has turned into.

I want to know more about the picture of the Grinch.

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tm
3/10/2016 01:05:46 pm

Tirade is a good word for what "Time Machine" has been doing. Tangential thinking, perseveration of ideation, and even the childish responses are typical of someone with serious problems. Its also a bad sign that neither ignoring it, confronting it, ir ridiculing it seems to have much of an impact. As annoying as his posts are to everyone else, I would also argue that allowing him to continue to threadjack only makes his own problems worse.

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Time Machine
3/10/2016 07:51:09 pm

Here's a childish response --- yawn.

tm
3/10/2016 10:41:33 pm

If only all your childish remarks were that brief... :D

Kathleen
3/10/2016 11:47:31 pm

Jeez Louise! Would everyone please ignore Time Machine.

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Christine Erikson link
3/13/2016 10:49:00 am

http://politicallyunclassifiable.blogspot.com/2016/02/space-aliens-from-pleiades-are-evil.html

http://politicallyunclassifiable.blogspot.com/2016/03/chakra-dangers.html

http://fightthenewage.blogspot.com/2016/03/believing-ufo-aliens-exist-is-not-new.html

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Christine Erikson link
3/13/2016 10:52:46 am

glancing at his manifesto, haven't gotten far, I see his troubles started with meditation and out of body stuff. This is guaranteed to get you trouble sooner or later.

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Exaterressial Assonaut
3/13/2016 11:30:02 am

Schizophrenia is a sad disease. This man is mentally ill, and it has nothing to do with any ancient conspiracy, anti-Semitism, or anti-Christian agenda. I hope he gets good care and no access to anything more dangerous than a plastic fork.

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Dale Triplett link
3/13/2016 12:22:52 pm

Thank you for your cogent insight into the addled mind of Kyle Odom. As a former Marine, and a wary student of fringe elements, I found his manifesto and actions to be deeply unsettling.
I recently attended the International UFO Congress in Arizona, my sixth year attending, and what alarmed me most about Odom's actions is that most - if not all- of the elements he professed could be heard in conversations around the fire-pits throughout the week. But even within an environment of perhaps more open minds, claims matching Odom's were met with a healthy dose of skepticism and often outright disbelief. One particular gentleman consistently wiggled his way into my social group of curious but skeptical attendees, and would commence to relate a tale that strained credulity beyond the breaking point. All of us raised our eyebrows but politely allowed him to tell his story. What mortified me and a few of my friends was the sheer conviction and believability he conveyed. His account was rapt with emotion, and even if what he was saying was batshit crazy - he believed it with unwavering faith, just like Odom. This uneducated man delivered a testimony worthy of an Oscar, and it chilled me to no end.
I know without a doubt the UFO realm is rife with charlatans and opportunists, along with an unhealthy dose of mental malaise that threatens to fully undermine a legitimate pursuit and study of unknown phenomena. Sorting through the good guys and bad guys in the field is more challenging than poring over the available video and images - truth could be right in front of our eyes but there's so much bullshit to wade through we may never see it.
Odom's mental train wreck unfortunately set back whatever meager progress legitimate scholars and researchers strive to achieve, and only adds more barriers to achieving credibility. But perhaps even more disconcerting is the conviction he - and others - cling to in the face of what is no doubt incredulous to a vast majority of the rest of us. Even the most ardent skeptic has to sit back and ask the preposterous: What if he was right?

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Christine Erikson link
3/13/2016 02:30:38 pm

". But perhaps even more disconcerting is the conviction he - and others - cling to in the face of what is no doubt incredulous to a vast majority of the rest of us. Even the most ardent skeptic has to sit back and ask the preposterous: What if he was right?"

what if he was the victim of two things: predisposing mental imbalance, plus meditation (even occultists warn of dangers) and then he got grabbed by demons who wanted to make a mess of him. that church might be a front for something, or it might have been doing a lot of good for Jesus' interests, the attack in the former case would be to make those suspicious of it look crazy, in the latter persecution by the devil and his knowing or tricked agents.

they were always sniffing at this guy. Maybe he never bathed? this is not clarified in his story. Perhaps someone could find out what his hygiene condition was when he was arrested, and locate people who knew him during this time leading up to the shooting, and can tell us if he smelled a bit?

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Dale Triplett link
3/13/2016 04:06:58 pm

I don't think hygiene was a factor. Marines, if anything, are quite fastidious about their appearance. His perception of those constantly sniffing around him speaks more to paranoia and his mental degeneration, in my opinion.

As to the motives of the church he became associated with, I have no idea. It's a toss of the coin these days in determining whether or not a church group is good or bad, self-serving, cultish or on the side of right.

My more conspiratorial cohorts would no doubt say Odom was somehow being messed with, that perhaps he'd stumbled into a tiny portion of truth, and had to be silenced or discredited in order to maintain the status quo.

Whatever the truth is, it's a sad state of affairs for a former, fellow Marine who appeared to be on a productive life-path until encountering mental illness, or perhaps something more menacing.

Gary
3/13/2016 04:18:27 pm

Meditation is harmless and good for reliving stress. The only problems that occur is when people are convinced that they are delving for higher "truths" and hypnotize themselves into believing it. That's why it's abused by all religion whether it's counting beads or chanting or breathing, it's the same. When you start feeling good you attribute it to God or whatever it is they told you it was.

Jeff
3/14/2016 04:05:24 pm

I think someone else beat me to this, but reptilian aliens in human form taking over is kinda the plot of V. I've only watched part of the newer series, but I remember at least the remake had a distinct gray area of some of the aliens siding with the humans. Of course, playing paranoid devil's advocate, how does Odom know that Obama wasn't also an alien?

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