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In New Interview, Scott Wolter Says "Nasty" Jason Colavito Knows How to "Manipulate the Internet"

6/4/2015

146 Comments

 
“It’s a marketing campaign now.”

That’s how America Unearthed host Scott Wolter described his advocacy of fringe history in an interview broadcast on KFAI Radio in Minneapolis-St. Paul last night in the documentary Minnesota’s Runestone: Whose History Is It? Wolter told interviewer Brigitta Greene that he has stopped trying to work with “academics” because academics try to “baffle me with bullshit” and are closed to new facts. Instead, he said, he hopes to appeal directly to the public in order to foment widespread demand to hold academics accountable for explaining why they reject hyperdiffusionism and historical conspiracy theories. 
Minnesota’s Runestone purports to be a program about the way various people use the Kensington Rune Stone, a hoax inscription purporting to tell of a Norse expedition from Vinland to Minnesota in 1362, to construct and re-construct the past, but it’s mostly a profile of Scott Wolter. The documentary is a little rough around the edges, and at times it can be a bit confusing if you don’t already know the details of the Kensington Rune Stone saga, particularly the involvement of the Ohman family and their relationship with Scott Wolter.

Wolter told Greene that one of his most important motivations for defending the Rune Stone was to “protect” the Ohman family, with whom he is close friends. He took a phone call from Darwin Ohman in the middle of his interview with Greene.

Wolter delivers some of his usual bluster about how he’s ready to throw down with anyone who has evidence. “Put your cards on the table. I’ve got three books. Here they are. (Drops books.) Boom!” Later, he says that he’d like academics to tell him why he’s full of shit: “I don’t mind people saying, ‘You’re full of shit,’ but tell me why I’m full of shit.” If his position is somewhat incoherent—simultaneously lambasting and rejecting academics and demanding they engage with him on his terms—his views all revolve around his demand and desire for those he perceives as social elites to engage with him as equals.

Both Scott Wolter and I appear in the documentary, though I was not aware of that fact when I gave Greene an interview about the Kensington Rune Stone in July 2014. I didn’t know that the program would eventually turn into a Wolter profile. Greene interviewed Wolter last fall at his home in St. Paul, which she described as looking like a cabin and housing two “yapping” little dogs.

In an artistic choice I found questionable, Greene chose to ask Wolter about me before telling listeners anything about me. When Greene brought up my name as one of Wolter’s chief internet critics, it resulted in him calling me “nasty” and then saying: “The thing about Colavito is that he’s a debunker. His arguments aren’t sincere. He will not acknowledge a factual point that doesn’t support his arguments. But this is a guy who’s very savvy. He’s figured out how to manipulate the internet to control the discussions to a large degree.” This, as Greene later notes, came from a man who has a national television show he uses to try to influence the public.

After this, Greene features some fuzzy clips from me—we spoke by phone, and it shows—discussing fringe history in general and explaining that far from having a vendetta against Wolter, I had very little knowledge of him before America Unearthed premiered.

The only other person to appear in the program is Robert G. “Bob” Johnson, a Rune Stone speculator and author of The Last Kings of Norse America, who claims that a paper on the Norse empire in central North America that he submitted to an unspecified academic journal was rejected within two business days. Johnson calls this systematic bias against Rune Stone research and says that the editors rejected the paper because they told him that they “know” that the Rune Stone is a fake. (Johnson is best known as the co-discoverer of the hoax AVM Rune Stone.) But even Johnson recognizes that most Rune Stone claims are “not on track, let’s say, and they do make it difficult for people who think they have a real idea.” He singles out the History Channel (i.e. Scott Wolter) for poisoning the debate with outlandish ideas.
146 Comments
Scott Hamilton
6/4/2015 02:06:34 am

I have a terrible urge to read The Last Kings of Norse America, just to find out how you get to a Norse empire from the rune stone.

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Jason Colavito link
6/4/2015 02:24:43 am

I believe his claim is that it was more of a suzerainty over a trade empire, something akin to a Victorian protectorate rather than a full-fledged colony.

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Duke of URL
6/5/2015 05:22:26 am

ISTR reading an SF novel on that theme; sadly, it was decades ago and I cannot recall the title. Any suggestions?

Pacal
6/6/2015 01:04:29 pm

Sounds like this is a fantasy of a Norse Hudson Bay Company. Of course if that is the case we should expect to find all sorts of trade artifacts and it appears we don't.

I am constantly amazed by how Diffusionists are such anachronistic thinkers.

Harris
6/7/2015 03:17:37 am

Here is my review on Goodreads; https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/870576025

It takes "Norumbega" as a given, so grain of salt on analysis.

I had not heard of this documentary before, I'm quite surprised it made on to something like KFAI. I'm curious about how it came about; curiosity on the local quirky story by the documentarian? Wolter's influence/interest? Very interesting to see another younger person talk about the stone. Gotta shake your head on that dig on academics as not "professional," (classic anti-intellectualism) but I think Wolter did himself no favors in his interviews.

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Walt
6/4/2015 03:05:02 am

I thought that documentary was really good. It gave a decent summary of the situation from an uninvolved point of view, which isn't easy for the KRS. Most people either have an opinion or don't care at all.

Probably should've had an academic on though. It sort of assumes we know how academia works. Also, it never really addresses the paper being rejected in 2 days just because they know better. It's possible for all of the criticisms of academia to be valid even if Wolter is wrong about the KRS. Somebody should explore that in an unbiased way.

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Walt
6/4/2015 03:25:26 am

Just realized the comment section is displaying properly now. I haven't changed anything. I was running the latest Firefox 38.0.1 when it wasn't working and still am.

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Ken Stone
6/4/2015 05:11:09 am

Please name one academic who takes Scott Wolter seriously.

Walt
6/4/2015 07:48:41 am

I can't name one academic of any sort.

I think the ship has sailed on whether his conclusions are supported by the facts. But, the documentary didn't need to find one who takes Wolter seriously to finish telling the story. Just one who knows how academia works.

Crash55
6/4/2015 12:18:37 pm

I have many peer reviewed papers. If they rejected it that fast than it had to be completely off the wall. My guess is he starts by claiming the KRS is real without giving any new evidence - especially given the response he said he got. Either that or his reputation in the community is soo bad that no one believes anything this he says

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Walt
6/4/2015 01:00:10 pm

I have a couple simple questions if you don't mind. Are you part of academia? Do you get a card to carry as a member? Is academia comprised of anyone holding a university or college teaching job or is it those who have published in peer journals?

Sorry if these are stupid questions but all I hear here are bad things about "academia" without anyone from academia defending itself with examples.

Crash55
6/5/2015 10:49:57 am

I am actually a DoD researcher. Though is have a PhD and ma published I am not considered an academic. Academia is usually viewed as anyone teaching or researching at an college or university. So pretty much any professor or researcher is an academic. Publishing is not required to be an academic but its one of the big measures of success. The number and quality of publications means a lot when you are competing for funding.

Walt
6/5/2015 12:14:31 pm

Thanks. That's probably what I would've assumed so it's nice to know for sure. I still believe academia makes logical decisions but it'd be nice to have someone provide actual details about some of these allegations from the fringe.

V
6/6/2015 11:24:31 am

Walt, it's awfully hard to provide "details about some of these allegations" when the people who are being accused don't even know they're being accused a great deal of the time, because they don't pay attention to people who are not actually part of their field and therefore don't actually have much basis for making any of the claims they make. I mean, I don't much take seriously the claims of those who don't have any art training when it comes to art, nor do I take particularly seriously claims of people who aren't educators about education, because both groups largely show their ignorance of the field within a few sentences. I largely react to any discussion on "standardized testing" with, "Oh, you're so cute and so ignorant, please stop talking before you realize how dumb you're being," for example. (I can explain why if you want, but that would be getting away from the point of the post right now.)

Most of the fringe allegations boil down to "You don't agree with me so it must be because you hate me personally!" when academics are going, "...your ideas might be interesting but you have failed to provide anything other than your opinion and opinions are like assholes--everyone has one and they all stink" or else "...uh...do you know how to read? Because all of this stuff you list as evidence has provenance that flat-out denies your claims as being valid."

...oh, yeah, and...those details you want are precisely what Jason provides in this blog?

Walt
6/6/2015 12:48:43 pm

I've never seen Jason debunk the "academics are biased in their rejections" claim. In the last paragraph of this blog, Jason says a paper was rejected in 2 days without discussing it further.

All I've seen is fringe people vaguely accusing academics of being biased, and those who support academics vaguely saying "no, you're just an idiot."

Both sides are just stating their beliefs with no facts. I'd just like to see specific examples. It'd be nice to know in reference to the paper mentioned in the blog, if the academics agree with the author, that it was rejected because they already knew the rune stone was fake. I'm guessing that's not the actual reason, but it's left unchallenged.

Jason Colavito link
6/6/2015 02:05:10 pm

I didn't say the paper was rejected in 2 days; I said that is what its author claimed. Without knowing the paper's contents and the journal in question, the claim is just a claim.

Walt
6/6/2015 02:32:41 pm

Sorry about that. I never intended to imply you were the one making that statement, but that's exactly what I wrote.

V
6/7/2015 03:54:56 am

Walt, I didn't realize that you wanted someone to specifically debunk the "academics are biased in their rejections" claim. Possibly because I thought it was self-evident in the details of what Jason does in debunking the rest of the claims--"this is the research, this is what you can find just with Google, this is what primary sources actually say." Generally speaking, that's rejection on the basis of research rather than bias.

I do know that in other posts, though I can't link to them because I don't recall the topics well enough, Jason has explained what "peer review" actually is, in response to fringe authors claiming that peer review is actually an old-boys'-club system. (It's not, and saying "can't pass peer review" strictly means "your methodology is crap," not "your hypothesis is crap.")

It's really hard to debunk claims made by a fringe author, though, when they don't give you anything to be able to go on. An unspecified paper, unspecified journal, unspecified time. Yeah, sure. It's totally easy to call the unspecified journal up and ask them about the unspecified paper and their reasons for rejecting it! That's the problem with a lot of the fringe "academics hate me" claims. They are too vague to GIVE the kind of specific details you're asking for about. And frankly, a lot of these fringe writers do that on purpose. For all we know, there never even was a paper, and the whole "rejected in 2 days" story is a flat-out lie, because we are given NO details. It's just as likely as running into one of the editorial types who say "Nnnnope, I know best and you are rejected because I know what I know and you are saying something I don't like!" There literally is no way to evaluate the claim of bias because all we have is the author's word that the incident even happened at all.

Walt
6/7/2015 04:41:14 am

In this digital age, it's pretty stunning to me that there's not some record somewhere of what papers are rejected, by whom, and for what reasons. Keeping no records is usually indicative of non-professionals, to put it politely.

I still have to assume academic journals make decisions based on logic, but it's still just an assumption not based on any evidence. If they're unable to refute these claims from the fringe, they're going to lose the battle eventually.

Jamie Eckles link
6/7/2015 08:14:03 am

Walt, why would you expect a journal to keep records of rejected papers? Do you realize that all kinds of people submit papers, often for the most frivolous of reasons and rational? They get inundated with lots of crap and to expect them to keep records of that is unreasonable.

Walt
6/7/2015 08:56:34 am

I just expect everyone to keep records of everything these days I guess since it's usually automated. I hadn't even considered that there wouldn't be any records. I'd assume even the crap has to be received and be made available to peers for their rejection. These days, there's normally an electronic trail of that happening.

This guy's claim is fairly specific. From context, I'm guessing he's only submitted one paper ever. It was about a rune stone and rejected in 2 days, supposedly. Just seems like there should be another side to the story, whether it's through records or recollections.

Joe Scales
6/6/2015 04:00:37 am

Wolter's attack on "academia" is wholly without merit. It's like a grade school kick ball player demanding to be recognized by Major League Baseball; that's how out of sorts it is. Wolter's conclusions cannot withstand simple logic, let alone peer review. Confirmation Bias and Proof by Assertion are constants in his bag of tricks. With only a BS in geology, he attempts to rewrite history by delving into linguistics, archeology, history and other fields in which he has absolutely no expertise nor formal education. Even geologists have questioned his slipshod methodology, noting that his KRS work in this regard could only appeal to (and/or mislead) the layperson . There are some interesting discussions you can find online within geology forums where he is roundly dismissed. There are also articles and papers from those who used to work with him, that know his intellectual dishonesty all too well.

No, Wolter sets up academia as a strawman, evil entity out to deny him his due; when it is his own deficiencies and disingenuousness that should be the focus.

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John
6/6/2015 09:44:21 am

Do you know any links where these discussions and papers by other Geologists can be found? I have been looking around and can't find any outside of the one done by Wolter's former colleague Richard Neilson.

Joe Scales
6/7/2015 05:54:04 am

The papers and reviews from the Swedish "academics", as well as criticism from Prof. Williams, you've already found on Nielson's site. Note that Wolter recently condemned the page on his blog, accusing (without direct evidence) Nielson of either editing the material or falsifying it. He also wrote that he'd never seen the Swedish academics' criticism of his work; which is strange because in their report they reference interactions with Wolter himself. But by picking a point or two where solely a premise was agreed to, Wolter boldly jumps to the conclusion that the Swedish academics basically agreed with him; yet another exercise of intellectual dishonesty from Wolter.

But for online geology discussions in this regard, you can start by googling "Daryl Krupa: Geology Question (KRS related)". There is quite a bit to sort through, but pay attention to how the wording from Wolter's original paper changed in his book as noted by those with access to both.

Only Me
6/7/2015 02:03:12 pm

Joe, thanks for the search suggestion. I'm still going through the entire discussion, but I found this excerpt to be on point:

"Certainly, it was better to include lots of pages of speculative history linking the Templars, and lots of pages taking gratuitous swipes at folks for doing bad science (notwithstanding that the authors ultimately concede that modern scientific tools and much material that can be analyzed thereby were not available to these folks), rather than supplying full details of the methodology employed to support the conclusions arrived at in the book."

John
6/7/2015 03:12:08 pm

@ Only Me

I actually posted the discussion you referenced in a few links on the bottom of the page. What stuck out to me was that in one the posts Wolter actually named the people who he claimed "peer reviewed" him. It's funny cause after looking up their names I ended up finding an article back in 2001 that said that some of them were his professors. They are the following:

John Green
Paul Wieblen
Richard Ojakangas
Charles L. Matsch

4 out of the 8 people that Scott Wolter said peer reviewed him were his own professors! That's why he never had it published.

Also note that the last name I posted, Professor Charles Matsch, is the same Professor, that Scott Wolter named on his blog, as having giving him his sympathetic "Honuary Masters" coffee.

Here is the article that showed up on my search if anyone is interested:

http://www.d.umn.edu/publications/bridge/201/alumnpro.html

John
6/7/2015 03:17:03 pm

Edit: I should have given the detail that it was in an email that Wolter sent to the original person that posted the response.

Only Me
6/7/2015 06:57:44 pm

Thanks for the findings, John.

What I find most interesting, is Wolter claiming the KRS is genuine, and uses that claim to bolster his "credibility". However, the article you provided says the following:

[So, while Wolter hasn’t proved the authenticity, his findings certainly are consistent with an authentic stone. “This is preliminary research. We need to conduct more studies, but I am sure of one thing. That stone was carved long before 1898,” he said.]

Somehow, preliminary research has transformed into irrefutable fact. That, is one of the reasons why academics tell him he's full of shit.

Joe Scales
6/8/2015 04:09:28 am

If Professor Weiblen ever supported Wolter's research, it didn't last long:

http://richardnielsen.org//PDFs/Runestone%20Museum%20Rpt%20062608.pdf

Of particular interest from his 2008 letter to the Runestone Museum:

"I am of the same mind as Winchell who concluded that study of physical aspects of the KRS will probably not contribute much to establishing the authenticity of the runes. That is not to say
that the ever-increasing sophistication of modern analytical techniques might someday definitively establish the time and manner in which the runes were carved, but from my experience and perspective that time is not now and may never be reached. This hinges on the fact that the rock weathering process involves such a wide variety of parameters that experimental data on rates of weathering from experiments cannot readily constrain
interpretations of natural weathering processes."

It is important to note that the late Professor Winchell had maintained that the linguists would have the final say as to authenticity of the KRS, and we all know the Larsson Papers pretty much settled matters for those scholars (http://www.seattlepi.com/national/article/Documents-may-prove-ancient-runestone-fake-1141999.php).

Here again is another reason why Wolter isn't taken seriously by true academics. He will tell you he is supported by certain people, and then when you show him they don't actually support him, he will then tell you that they only expressed their true beliefs to him and are afraid to go public with their support because... well, you know... those nasty, corrupt, secretive (masonic?) academics and their wily ways. In this regard, he is pathological.

Here's a good slice of the online geological discussion of the KRS, with referenced commentary by Daryl Krupa:

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/sci.archaeology/cH5tXUIWTkA%5B1-25%5D

You're just not going to find geologists in a purely academic setting picking apart Wolter's methodology, findings and conclusions because his methodology, findings and conclusions are ridiculous on their face and wouldn't merit such concern. That's why it's fortunate that a geologist took the time to take it apart for an online discussion group for those wanting the true science.


John
6/8/2015 07:19:43 am

And that conversation was back in 2006. Imagine what they would say now with Wolter going off the rails more than ever before.

Uncle Ron
6/4/2015 03:17:55 am

Congratulations Jason! You have learned how to manipulate the internet! You'll be rich!

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Clint Knapp
6/4/2015 03:48:02 am

Dear Scott F. Wolter,
Lacking an understanding of how the Internet functions does not necessitate another's mastery of it. You have all of the same tools on-hand. Google, in fact, owns the servers which host your blog. A little effort to learn something instead of just complaining about it, and I know that "marketing campaign" of yours will go swimmingly.

Not so sure about the evidence campaign, though.

Sincerely,
Someone Who Can Read.

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Clete
6/4/2015 04:29:24 am

Jason, you sure stepped in it when you questioned Scott Wolter about his bogus Masters Degree. He finally had to admit that it was on honorary degree given to him over a cup of coffee. We should all accept the fact that Scott Wolter is a voice crying in the wilderness, leading us away from accepted and verified facts, to the bright sunny land of truth as proclaimed by Scott Wolter, forensic geologist and examiner of concrete.

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FrankenNewYork
6/4/2015 04:42:33 am

Internet tough guy Jason? Not bad. I thought the interview was mostly alright. You were excellent despite the weird context your separate interview was placed in. It would have been nice if she had introduced you before letting Wolter lump you into the category of "nasty" which seems to imply you have something against the family that he is protecting, but she seemed to try for balance. However I got the impression she didn't buy into Wolter's ideas but being confronted by Wolter's mania in close quarters, in his own house, could be intimidating and limit the conversation, so aside from some editing/artistic choices it was okay.

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Ken Stone
6/4/2015 05:08:25 am

Scott Wolter should not hold subjective beliefs in things that can be debunked.
Simple.

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lurkster
6/4/2015 06:38:20 am

Apologies if this has already been mention, but the latest FireFox upgrade has fixed the commenting glitch on weebly and a few other social media sharing tools that also got screwy on the last update.

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Mark link
6/4/2015 06:45:57 am

Can you teach me how to manipulate the internet? I've always wanted to join the conspiracy of silence and help hide the truth.

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Shane Sullivan
6/4/2015 07:33:34 am

Manipulate the internet, huh? Do you do that with your Samsung Tablet of Destiny?

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Only Me
6/4/2015 08:53:16 am

“The thing about Colavito is that he’s a debunker. His arguments aren’t sincere. He will not acknowledge a factual point that doesn’t support his arguments. But this is a guy who’s very savvy. He’s figured out how to manipulate the internet to control the discussions to a large degree.”

Now, let's use Wolter's own reasoning against him.

“The thing about Wolter is that he’s a hack. His arguments aren’t sincere. He will not acknowledge a factual point that doesn’t support his arguments. But this is a guy who’s very savvy. He’s figured out how to use a marketing campaign to control the discussions to a large degree."

Oh, and Scott, if academics were to drop the books that prove you wrong, the resulting boom would spread your atoms across the known universe.

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terry the censor
6/4/2015 09:03:09 am

Wolter: "The thing about Colavito is that he’s a debunker. His arguments aren’t sincere."

How often has a fringe believer under scrutiny ever accused a skeptic of being sincere?

Wolter's defence is so delusional, yet so human. I got this kind of blowback reviewing plays in university. After an abysmal production, one fellow dismissed my assessment because I was a critic, implying that criticism is necessarily negative, therefore I was looking to write negative things only.

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Kal Kat
6/4/2015 09:16:45 am

SW may have actually committed an illegal act or more broadcasting this program and cutting and pasting you to make you sound completely different. That would be slander and misrepresentation to defame and fraud. It is ironic since that is was SW does.

And the KRS is a FAKE. Get over it, SW.

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Thorwald C. Franke link
6/4/2015 09:20:57 am

If we exclude that Scott Wolter's words are exaggerated, then there is only one logical solution: Jason Colavito has a job at the NSA, just where Edwad Snowden once was sitting. True? :-)

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David Bradbury
6/4/2015 09:48:31 am

Maybe it's just me being suspicious, but this blog post looks a lot like a case of Jason manipulating the internet. Nasty academic truthseeker- he should be exiled to the farthest reaches of cable TV, where he can do no damage.

Oh, wait ....

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Duke of URL
6/5/2015 05:25:37 am

David, you owe me a clean keyboard...

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Dave Lewis
6/4/2015 02:15:40 pm

Being called nasty by Scott Wolter means Jason is really on track.

My finest moment was being called an asshole by Steve St Clair.

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Jerky
6/4/2015 06:58:30 pm

I could listen to you talk all day long about anything Jason.


So when will scott's attack dogs show up?

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Harry
6/5/2015 01:09:43 am

Whenever I debate Wolter on his blog, I always try to be polite and he responds in kind. If I persist long enough, I always end up with the last word, because Wolter stops responding.

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tm
6/5/2015 02:20:34 am

"Housing two 'yapping' little dogs"

I wonder if this was as much an editorial comment as it was an observation.

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Rich
6/5/2015 08:37:30 pm

Speaking of Wolter does anyone know if History will pick up his show again?

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Clete
6/6/2015 04:15:44 am

I was wondering that also. It seems to me that if the show was going to be broadcast, they would be promoting it by now. All the other crap quasi-reality shows the History channel are going to show are being promoted.

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Dan
6/6/2015 07:35:34 am

On twitter, Wolter posted that he's going to be back on tv in July, but he doesn't know the name of the show yet. I assume that means that the entity known as "America Unearthed" is over, but H2 is still going to use his many "talents" for some new creation.

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Mike Morgan
6/6/2015 10:10:48 am

Under his blog: http://scottwolteranswers.blogspot.com/2015/01/two-brand-new-medieval-hooked-xs.html.

"SpurgeonMay 5, 2015 at 11:24 AM

I haven't posted in a few months so I may have missed it, but has America Unearthed been picked up for a new season?"

"Scott WolterMay 5, 2015 at 5:08 PM

The new show I've been filming will air sometime in July. No hard date has been set yet."

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I Followed up by a post asking for some clarification.

"AnonymousMay 6, 2015 at 10:36 AM

Scott, if you could please clear this up for us, is the new show you've been filming part of a new season of your "Americas Unearthed" series or is it a special show apart and separate from "Americas Unearthed"?

Thanks, Mike Morgan"

"Scott WolterMay 7, 2015 at 10:49 AM

Mike,

The new show has not been announced yet, but I will let everyone know as soon as I am able. It's gonna' be good though!

Although it looks like H2 is going away, America Unearthed isn't dead yet...

Stay tuned."

I assume we can conclude that "the new show" is not a segment of the "America Unearthed" series and there is still nothing official stating whether the series will continue or if it is dead.

What remains to be seen is whether "the new show" will be another series or just a one time affair.

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Zach
6/8/2015 10:26:45 am

What I don't get is that it's already June and supposedly this show is coming out in July. There's only a little over a month left and the fact that there is no official announcement by History, let alone that there is no promotion for it what so ever is completely bizzare. Can someone explain how this works?

Jerky
6/8/2015 03:52:34 pm

I'm no expert but me thinks it got canned before it aired even one episode. Or at lest I would hope so.

Zach
6/8/2015 04:19:59 pm

I'm not sure about that. People keep saying that Scott Wolter on his twitter keeps teasing about a new show coming in July that he just recently filmed.

Kim
6/7/2015 04:33:39 am

This program seemed to have no clear purpose and unfortunately, the Minnesota taxpayers have again paid money to listen to Scott Wolter rant. What a waste.

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John
6/7/2015 10:33:11 am

If anyone wants to know about Wolter's thoughts on peer review here is a link to a discussion online back around 2006:

http://sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.archaeology/2006-02/msg00091.html

Wolter even goes on to name the people that he claimed "peer reviewed" his work that he has failed to name as of late.

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John
6/7/2015 11:00:45 am

The archive that I found this on:

http://sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.archaeology/2006-02/threads.html#00107

This was around the time that Wolter was apparently still on good terms with Richard Neilson.

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John
6/7/2015 11:43:46 am

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!msg/sci.archaeology/aZNSwMR4UDk/HVlbzOgkd6EJ

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Joe Scales
6/8/2015 05:22:46 am

And he does it again...

Over on his blog Wolter is attempting to mislead his following into believing that Neilson and Professor Henrik Williams support his notion that the KRS carver was a Cistercian monk from Gotland. Such mendacity is easily disproved. I mean, let's hear from Professor Williams himself in this regard:

"In fact nothing on the KRS points specifically towards Gotland or the Cistercians. Yet Wolter has the audacity to claim in his summary (p. 253) that: “[N]umerous linguistic, runic, grammatical and dialect traits found in the Kensington Rune Stone inscription are also found in medieval runic inscriptions on Gotland. Interpretation: The carver of the Kensington Rune Stone was likely educated in these aspects of the Old Swedish language on the
island of Gotland." Actually I can prove that the KRS was not carved by Cistercians or Templars from Gotland, or by anyone else from that island as a matter of fact. The inscription itself tells us this. Wolter (p. 60) obviously believes that the eight “Goths” mentioned means ‘Gotlanders’, but it does not. The word göter means ‘people from Götaland’ (the southern part of mainland Sweden). The word meaning ‘people from the island of Gotland’ would be guter in the spelling of the KRS."

ESOP * The Epigraphic Society Occasional Papers * Volume 27 143

The full review by Professor Williams, which sums up Wolter's intellectual dishonesty quite nicely, can be found here: http://richardnielsen.org//PDFs/ESOP%20v27%20p139%20Review%20of%20Wolter%20Book%205pp.pdf





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John
6/8/2015 08:10:02 am

Well Joe looks like Wolter got around to replying to your post on his blog:


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AnonymousJune 8, 2015 at 9:13 AM
"We concluded"??? Why don't we hear from Henrik Williams himself:

"In fact nothing on the KRS points specifically towards Gotland or the Cistercians. Yet Wolter has the audacity to claim in his summary (p. 253) that: “[N]umerous linguistic, runic, grammatical and dialect traits found in the Kensington Rune Stone inscription are also found in medieval runic inscriptions on Gotland. Interpretation: The carver of the Kensington Rune Stone was likely educated in these aspects of the Old Swedish language on the island of Gotland. Actually I can prove that the KRS was not carved by Cistercians or Templars from Gotland, or by anyone else from that island as a matter of fact. The inscription itself tells us this. Wolter (p. 60) obviously believes that the eight “Goths” mentioned means ‘Gotlanders’, but it does not. The word göter means ‘people from Götaland’ (the southern part of mainland Sweden). The word meaning ‘people from the island of Gotland’ would be gutter in the spelling of the KRS."

ESOP * The Epigraphic Society Occasional Papers * Volume 27 143




Scott WolterJune 8, 2015 at 11:32 AM
Yes, "we" did conclude the carver was likely educated on Gotland and I stand by that conclusion. "Wolter" does not believe "Goths" means 'Gotlanders,' "Wolter" is confident the carver was from Southern mainland Sweden or Gotland.

What Williams neglects to say is there were Cistercian Monasteries in Southern Sweden that trained and fed clergy to the churches on Gotland. In this article Mr. Williams is playing a little slight of hand with his comments which in reality echo my own.

Can you please dispense with the "bait and switch" tactics and just be up front and respectful in your queries? These silly games you like to play are annoying and do nothing to advance your dogmatic beliefs.

Quit being a jerk and stop the BS.

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Jamie Eckles link
6/8/2015 06:09:24 am

Did I hear him correctly? Did Scott not once but twice mention being a PhD? That must have been one hell of a coffee!

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John
6/8/2015 08:41:26 am

Boy Scott is on a roll:


RichJune 7, 2015 at 9:39 PM
Hey Scott,

Have you ever met a geologist named Paul Weiblen? Because recently while looking up information on rune stones I ran across a report by him on the Kensington Rune Stone he made back in 2001. It sounded really interesting and I wanted to get your take on it since you have a history with it. I can't wait for the new show! Keep up the good work!!!

Rich

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AnonymousJune 8, 2015 at 9:28 AM
Hi Rich,
Weiblen did have some very interesting things to say, like in his June 2008 letter to the Runestone Museum:

"I am of the same mind as Winchell who concluded that study of physical aspects of the KRS will probably not contribute much to establishing the authenticity of the runes. That is not to say that the ever-increasing sophistication of modern analytical techniques might someday
definitively establish the time and manner in which the runes were carved, but from my experience and perspective that time is not now and may never be reached. This hinges on the fact that the rock weathering process involves such a wide variety of parameters that experimental data on rates of weathering from experiments cannot readily constrain
interpretations of natural weathering processes."

Your thoughts Scott?


Scott WolterJune 8, 2015 at 11:54 AM
Winchell concluded that KRS was authentic based upon the geological aspects of the weathering he investigated; that is a documented fact. Winchell's comments are being taken out of context by Wieblen and being intentionally presented that way by our anonymous poster. Winchell was referring to his lack of expertise in old runes and how that aspect of the KRS would have to decided by runic scholars.

With regard to Wieblen's comments, I completely disagree with Paul. He has not studied the relative-age tombstone weathering work I performed so his opinion doesn't mean much. If he had looked at my geological work in any detail I know he would have contacted me with questions or comments that I would have responded to in writing.

He's right there is a wide variety of the parameters involved in understanding weathering rates. However, I documented the relevant parameters very carefully and reached a conservative estimate about the timing of that weathering that was enough time to draw a definitive conclusion about the authenticity of the KRS that has proven to be correct.

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Scott WolterJune 8, 2015 at 6:54 AM
Rich,

I was with Paul when he performed the single microprobe traverse across the top surface of the core sample I took from the back of the KRS. The traverse was across the glacially weathered end of the core. Many skeptics have tried to make an issue of the fact that Paul didn't document any biotite along his traverse. This would be expected since any biotite that may have been on the surface would have weathered away over the 10-12,000 years after the glacier deposited the original slab of graywacke.

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John
6/8/2015 08:49:06 am

For context, here is Weiblen's report on the KRS in 2001:

http://www.richardnielsen.org//PDFs/Weiblen%20(2001)%201%20to%2045,%20Appendices%201%20and%203%208MB.pdf

And here is his report on the weathering of the KRS that he sent to the Rune-stone Museum:

http://www.richardnielsen.org//PDFs/Runestone%20Museum%20Rpt%20062608.pdf

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Joe Scales
6/8/2015 12:06:18 pm

More of the same from Wolter. He demands we accept his conclusions simply because he's right; as if Proof by Assertion isn't a fallacy. When he's caught saying certain experts support him and it's shown they don't, he'll deny the obvious and then resort to name calling.

Winchell always couched his opinion in regard to the authenticity of the KRS by stating that the Swedish linguists would have the final say, realizing the limits of geology in this regard.

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John
6/8/2015 11:52:24 am

Wolter's latest episode on his blog:


" CarlJune 8, 2015 at 11:46 AM
Hi Scott,

Are you aware of a man named Tom McDonald?

-- Carl.

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Scott WolterJune 8, 2015 at 11:55 AM
Carl,

The name kind of rings a bell, but not specifically at the moment.

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CarlJune 8, 2015 at 12:39 PM
Scott,

Can you clarify if the following email posted in the link, is in fact one that he claims you sent to him:

http://sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.archaeology/2006-02/msg00091.html

-- Carl

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Scott WolterJune 8, 2015 at 1:02 PM
Carl,

Now I remember Tom McDonald, and yes that email looks to be the one I wrote at the time. I now know where you are going with your seemingly innocent postings Carl/Rich/or whoever you are. Of the people on that list, Paul Wieblen and G.B. Morey did not submit written reviews of my geological work. They promised to, but we instead discussed the findings personally at the Minnesota Geological Survey and Paul was the only one who didn't completely agree. His objections were philosophical with regard to methodology and he offered nothing specific to refute or contradict my work.

G.B. Morey was very intrigued and thought we had done proper work. He was also in the midst of writing a biography of Newton Winchell as he was impressed with his geological work on the KRS and everything else about the man.

All of the others who reviewed my geological work did so in writing.

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CarlJune 8, 2015 at 3:05 PM
Where can someone find their written reviews? "


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John
6/8/2015 11:54:49 am

Hasn't this debate already happened? I thought that not one of the people that Wolter claimed to have reviewed his work has never been published or even read by anyone?

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Joe Scales
6/8/2015 12:24:12 pm

Yes, the debate raged on until the Larsson Papers appeared, which is where anyone with any academic integrity got of the Good Ship Wolter. Rather than realize his claim to fame was an error riddled farce, Wolter instead chose to embrace the Masons as Templars fringe to discredit the Larsson Papers simply by pointing at them and shrieking "CONSPIRACY!!!" So rejected by academics, he was left with the likes of Alan Butler, a television network that cares not one bit for truth and now nothing is out of bounds. Dan Brown, Bat Cave stones... you name it.

K.C.
6/8/2015 12:33:45 pm

Notice that in the link provided on the 2006 blog posting:
http://sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.archaeology/2006-02/msg00091.html
Scott Wolter is claiming that Professor's Wieblen and Professor Morey were among 8 senior geologists and engineers who DID provide written peer review of his work on the KRS. Now he states they DIDN'T. That 2006 blog posting is signed with his company name, title and license #. Shouldn't this type of dishonesty should be reported to some higher up?

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John
6/8/2015 01:06:25 pm

I'm pretty sure there is no higher up, since it is his company. And let's be honest no professional takes the guy seriously. Not the Rune stone Museum, not Professor Paul Weiblen, and I'm pretty sure Darwin Ohman doesn't take Scott seriously anymore. After Scott ordered the moulding of the KRS that left the black dis coloring on it from the iron sulfide (reported in Richard Neilson and Paul Weiblen's reports) I would be shocked if the Ohman family wanted anything to deal with him after his carelessness and lack of consideration for standard protocols.

Joe Scales
6/8/2015 02:05:19 pm

Should Wolter continue to testify in court as an expert within his field of expertise (concrete failure), he's left so much out there in fringe territory and utter mendacity that would be ripe for opposing counsel to use against him in voir dire simply to question his overall competency and veracity.

John
6/8/2015 02:36:27 pm

If anyone is smart enough to use his fringe theories and investigations against Wolter in an environment like that than he deserves it. Maybe it will finally show people of the charlatan that he is. But until that time, the History Channel can at least further embarrass themselves by having Wolter on it. Hopefully the day will come when the situation arrives and he has no choice but to admit fault so that his followers can finally see past the smoke and mirrors.

John
6/8/2015 12:12:36 pm

" Scott WolterJune 8, 2015 at 3:47 PM
Carl,

These written reviews have always been and will continue to be made available to qualified geologists who are seriously interested in looking into the geological research I performed on the KRS beyond what is already published in my written reports and in "Compelling New Evidence." Regardless, the reviews wouldn't be of value to anyone who wasn't a geologist.

The posts on this blog have also convinced me there are too many trolls out there looking for anything they can get a hold of to try and further muddy the already murky waters of this discussion. Until the debunkers are willing to acknowledge and accept hard scientific facts, and conduct a serious KRS discussion with objectivity, there is no reason to take them seriously. "


In other words, to be able to prove that Scott Wolter has had reviews written about his work by professionals YOU HAVE TO BE A GEOLOGIST! You know, for someone who hates it that academics "cover up" information, and are condescending, and "elitist," he sure as he'll should not be talking.

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John
6/8/2015 12:39:54 pm

I apologize to Jason for filling his blog up with links anybody can find. But this letter to his professors in regards to his review, which he will not allow anyone to see, is just hilarious. Well, at least to me anyway:

http://www.richardnielsen.org//PDFs/The%203%20UMD%20Prof%20review%20of%20the%20KRS%20geology%20report%20to%20the%20RSM%20in%20May%202002..pdf

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John
6/8/2015 03:01:36 pm

Oh. My. God:


" AnonymousJanuary 5, 2015 at 4:22 PM
A very interesting episode and one that really seemed to raise a lot of important questions. Personally I think the face has a more Scandinavian look, but it is a fascinating artifact. As to our skeptical friend across the blogosphere I just read this terrifying comment from one of his acolytes:

"Scratch the surface of these odd self proclaimed historians and Nazism is almost always just beneath the surface.

Anyone have insight on just why that's the case?"

So anyone who questions the traditional view of history is a Nazi now? These fanatical espousers of orthodoxy more closely resemble the Spanish Inquisition burning heretics with each passing day. I wonder if they ever stop to see the irony in comments such as these?

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Jeff AdamsonJanuary 6, 2015 at 1:43 PM
I'm pretty sure that's a reference to Frank Joseph, the first person to propose the Waubansee stone was Phoenician


Ed N.May 6, 2015 at 10:30 PM
Hasn't Frank Joseph's theories, especially his theory on the Waubansee Stone being Phoenician, been debunked?


Scott WolterMay 7, 2015 at 8:55 AM
Ed,

Debunkers are not legitimate researchers as they are simply contrarians arguing opposing viewpoints. No one has conclusively proven anything regarding the Waubansee Stone. Frank Joseph has proposed an interesting idea about the Waubasee Stone that should be vetted like anyone else's.

Debunker's try to discredit Mr. Joseph for his checkered past which is unfortunate, but doesn't make his theories or hypotheses any less credible. They should be examined on the basis of their merit and factual support, not his personal failings.

Reply "


http://scottwolteranswers.blogspot.com/2015/01/who-carved-waubansee-stone.html

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Zach
6/8/2015 05:11:01 pm

Wow. In Scott Wolter's point of view, it is is now UNFORTUNATE to expose and discredit a former member of the American Nazi Party...WHO RAPED CHILDREN!!! If there is anybody that deserves that than it is Frank Josephs. That is an understatement to say that being a Neo-Nazi and child rapist is what Scott Wolter waves away as a "checkered past" and "personal failings". Especially when one of those failings beliefs used pseudoscientific theories, similar to the theories that Scott Wolter uses in his bullshit, as a means to justify the killing of millions of people just because they weren't white Europeans. That's an agenda if I have ever heard one. But, who cares about that -- it's the evil agenda of the Academics that we have to watch out for. Scott Wolter is a disgusting piece of shit for even defending Joseph's ass. But, you know...just a personal failing of Wolter. Whatever.

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Shane Sullivan
6/9/2015 08:28:29 am

I interpreted Wolter's comment to mean that it was Joseph's "checkered past" that was "unfortunate", not the fact that people were attacking it.

Not that that's any better; the word "unfortunate" fails to adequately describe the life and times of a Nazi child molester.

John
6/9/2015 11:32:44 am

@ Shane

Well either way Wolter is still an ass. Can't do anything about it.

Jamie Eckles link
6/8/2015 04:25:25 pm

In the 10 years I spent on the usenet newsgroups from 95 to 05 as "DrPostman" I wore the label "debunker" with pride. Who the hell wants to support bunk? Wolter is one piss poor lousy piece of work who is just about useless when it comes to research.

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ReeTard
12/15/2015 07:25:32 pm

For someone who like to boast that he anonymously kicked ass on an anonymous site... you are truly fucking horrible at actually doing the kicking of that ass.
Are you sure that you were not trying to say 'Kissing a lot of ass'?, because that seems more like you.
Keep on runnin', Poindexter. Each step you take proves my point.
http://jasoncolavitothefraud.blogspot.ca/

Plus... a little something that you fucking simpletons can argue over:
http://chronologiesbookofrelics.blogspot.ca/

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I.M.Thechampion
12/16/2015 05:51:35 pm

So.... Shit for Brains!!
By your standards, I have achieved a great victory, simply by bitch slapping you, until you finally stop replying.
This has been a truly enjoyable process, but, because you are not an EQUAL, I must bid a final adieu.
This is my victory lap.... and I am running this victory lap in front of you, Colavito, and the circle jerk society.
I noticed that you STILL don't have anyone backing you up???
This site is truly filled with cowardly simpletons.

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TheLastWord
12/16/2015 06:00:19 pm

One final thought.... you arrogant little cocksucker.
You like to point out that my blog had zero comments.
I specifically don't allow for comments because it only encourages the know-nothing fucktards (like yourself) to reply.
However... I did notice that this sad fucking display has a grand total of 95 Facebook friends. (Obviously from Colavito's family & friends). I find this number absolutely hysterical, cuz I disregard that many Facebook requests every fucking day.
I guess we realize that hyping numbers isn't gonna play out well for your side.

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Jerky
12/16/2015 06:54:01 pm

That's nice, now go put some ass cream on all that butt hurt, grow some balls, and move on.

You Suck at This
12/17/2015 09:35:47 pm

You claim that you spent 10 years kicking ass as Dr. Postman, yet... you truly suck at making valid points or even defending your position.
What has ACTUALLY happened is that you have demonstrated that you have no concept of what 'kicking ass' actually involves.
When you flee.... that is not you kicking ass.
When you seek validation from others.... that is also not kicking ass.
When you and Jerky chat amongst yourself ABOUT people, rather than 'to' people.... that is also not kicking ass.
You and Jerky are a pair of snivelling fucktards who are jealous of people like Wolter for his successes.
Don't let your river of tears get your socks wet, Retard!

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scott link
6/8/2015 04:34:31 pm

So, now being a holocaust denying Nazi with an extensive collection of kiddie porn, not to mention the "small problem" of his predilection for raping small boys is considered having a checkered past? And it's unfortunate that debunkers try to discredit him?

Letting alone the fact that Scott Wolter is truly an ass, not to mention a pathologic liar with hugely delusional opinions of his own grandeur and intellect. His understanding and knowledge of history , archaeology and anthropology are at best, comical . But to try and characterize Joseph as anything other than the scum at the bottom of an overflowing Tijuana outhouse is disgusting in the extreme.

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John
6/8/2015 09:03:22 pm

A May 2011 open letter by Darwin Ohman:

http://www.kensingtonrunestone.us/Take_A_Stand.pdf

There are a lot of obvious things we already know, but also a lot of things that can give more insight on Scott during the period when he had his falling out with Richard Nielson and Henrik Williams.

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Joe Scales
6/9/2015 04:13:15 am

"At this juncture, I believe it is by taking a stand against those who have demonstrated an intention to use the Rune Stone for personal agenda rather than seeking the truth"

Darwin Ohman, May 20, 2011

Wow. Considering that's a defense of Wolter, I can't imagine a more delusional state of mind.

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Colavito Liesoften
6/11/2015 01:24:57 am

Still pretending to be credible, Jason??
That's okay, buddy.... we both know how full of shit you are. Right?

http://jasoncolavitothefraud.blogspot.ca/

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Only Me
6/11/2015 07:45:08 am

Hi, S.M. Raen. Or should I say, Scott Reaney? Still mad, I see.

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Jerky
6/12/2015 11:23:35 pm

What, is this the same Scott Reaney who tried, and failed horribly, to insult EP based on EP's nationality a while back? The one who's friends with the shotgun toting farmer?

Only Me
6/13/2015 04:39:18 am

Yes. Apparently, his "I'll get my readers to send you hate mail!" campaign was unsuccessful.

Jerky
6/13/2015 05:25:54 am

Go figure. Guess he is trying to use Jason as a means to get more people to read his junk again.

S.M. Raen
12/15/2015 02:20:15 pm

And.... who the f#*k are you??
Once again... Jason Colavito and the Circle Jerk Society get it all wrong.
I made my statement to you idiots months ago and didn't feel the need to look back. None of you people have said anything that is accurate or relevant... meaning that you are a waste of time to read your gibberish.
Or... to put this into simple language for your simple mind....
I didn't post ya Moron.... but thanks for thinking of me.

Jerky
12/15/2015 03:57:07 pm

"to put this into simple language for your simple mind....
I didn't post ya Moron.... but thanks for thinking of me. "

Scott

3/21/2015 07:55:21

"Haha. Wrong Guy.
You give proof to the statement 'The only thing that could possibly exceed the stupidity of an American... is two Americans." "


Colavito.Liar
12/15/2015 07:38:28 pm

I see that this is you being as courageous as you can be. Sad!
Where is your lawyer, Princess??
The last time that you actually developed the courage to even type my name... you were spouting off about having your legal dream team come after me.
Do you remember me laughing at your meaningless threats with great joy and mirth?
I see that you still do not have the spine to actually engage in a debate of FACTS, but, instead you hide here... in the very center of the circle jerk.
Jason Colavito is a thief.
Jason Colavito is a liar.
Jason Colavito is a Plagiarist.
If Jason Colavito has a problem with these FACTS, I suggest that he try to grow a pair of testicles so that he may conduct himself as the man he believes himself to be.
(You see, if you can steal my work, I can find ways to express my displeasure)

Jamie Eckles link
6/11/2015 11:03:38 am

And who do YOU think you are? I find Jason to be very credible and well researched. You come across as passionately credulous dick with a chip fixed permanently to your shoulder. You appear to be a nobody, with no comments to your pathetic blog. Have fun stewing in your butthurt.

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U.R.A.Dolt
12/15/2015 02:35:40 pm

Ah... another fucking idiot!
If I don't allow comments on my site... you really come off like an idiot for 'noticing' that there are no comments.
You truly possess a Holmes-ian intellect.
For you to 'point out' that there are no comments demonstrates that you are just a pair of flapping lips, pushing around recycled air like a ceiling fan.
Really Smart, there Poindexter!

Jamie Eckles
12/15/2015 03:10:06 pm

Took you nearly 6 months to come up with that lame reply? Dream faster, kook.

Dumm.Ass
12/15/2015 03:22:20 pm

Awwww!
Did the fact that I pointed out how truly stupid your 'observation' make you appear hurt your widdle feewings??
It took 6 fucking months before it actually clicked that you REALLY ARE that stupid.
Your ability to 'notice' the fucking obvious really places you in that upper echelon of intellect, hmmm?
Maybe you should get your eyes checked, Poindexter!

Jamie Eckles
12/15/2015 04:13:31 pm

You need to believe that, don't you? Anyone who sets up a blog that hates on someone has to be one of the highest forms of loser on the net. Enjoy your butthurt.

Id.Iot
12/15/2015 04:30:04 pm

How simple are you??
I will happily go to dismantle your fucking stupidity for you.
My blog was specifically the result of Colavito stealing the work that I did. Simple!
If you don't like that fact, my advice to you is equally simple; Fuck Off If You Don't Like How I Deal With Plagiarists, Liars, and the Brainless Fucktards Who Support That Behavour'. People like you, Poindexter!

Jamie Eckles
12/15/2015 04:46:47 pm

It's a hate page, nothing more. He didn't take a damned thing from you. Get over yourself.

Oh.U.R. Good.haha
12/15/2015 05:02:05 pm

Spoken like a typical revisionist.
Which reminds me... you never addressed the issue that I originally raised about how stupid you are.
You remember, right?
The part where I mentioned that you were being exceedingly stupid for observing that there was 'no comments' posted on a site that did not allow comments.
Let's keep talking about you being willfully stupid... okay?
Or... we could talk about revisionist history... and how people like you try to re-write the historical records to make it seem like you are 'less stupid' now then you were yesterday.
You aren't fooling anyone who actually knows stuff, Poindexter.

Run.Chicken
12/15/2015 06:34:19 pm

I ain't done kicking your ass, Poindexter!!
Do all of you revisionists run and hide like that when you get your ass kicked??
We aren't finished the discussion about you being excessively stupid.
You see... you demonstrated a very specific form of stupid... and I am here to correct your behavioral problems; these problems being your general stupidity and delusional attempts to re-write history in an effort to appear 'less stupid'.
So, Huckleberry, "Dazzle Me With Your (Self-professed) Vast Intellect".
Silence?? From a loud-mouthed, know-nothing??
Typical!
(Just remember, Poindexter, if you try pulling it out of your trousers to show off... mine's bigger)!

Keep.Runnin
12/15/2015 07:15:26 pm

Are you still hiding??
How very 'revisionist' of you.
You do realize that your cowardice and lack of intellect prove every point that I made in my blog about Colavito and 'people like you'.
I would think that if you were trying to undermine my points, you would try a little harder.... and not run and hide when you get your ass kicked by FACTS.
Although.... I would feel bad if you were just a pre-teen girl who was running off at the mouth.
You aren't a pre-teen girl, are you?? Or even worse... you aren't that snivel sack, Colavito... are you?

Jamie Eckles
12/15/2015 10:14:01 pm

You are foaming at the mouth, aren't you? I don't give rat's ass about your blog O hate. It's not even on Jason's radar. It's not on anyone's radar. No one would know about it had you not posted it to Jason's blog. You are a bitter butthurt fool who has some very strong control issues, as is evidenced by this set of rants you posted. Took you 6 months to form a reply and now you want everyone to be at your beck and call. How high can you piss up a rope?

U.Still.Talking
12/15/2015 11:17:38 pm

You amuse me, Poindexter!
You run your mouth.... display your stupidity by pointing out your profound observations of non-events... then pretend that you have done something relevant.
I love watching maggots like you squirm... especially after you run your mouth about kicking ass on the web... then fail miserably at the task that you were tooting your own horn about.
If you were truly as capable of dishing out the ass kickings that you claim.... I shouldn't have been able to fully ass ream you at my leisure... all fucking day.
You are a joke.... and I am truly having an excellent laugh at your expense.
Maybe... one day when you grow up and don't have to use your Mom's laptop to spread your crap.... you might have a grown up conversation.

I.M.Amused
12/15/2015 11:24:25 pm

Your conduct reminds me of when I was kicking the piss out of James Oberg. Oberg was getting destroyed.... so he logged out as Oberg, then logged back in under a different name. Oberg believed that this act would create the illusion that he had a following.... and that he was not just a lonely, pathetic fool.... sitting alone at the computer. You are THAT guy.
Gets ass kicked.....
Runs away to cry.....
Comes back, operating under the delusion that they have successfully defended their stupidity.
BAT SHIT CRAZY!!!

Jamie Eckles
12/16/2015 12:23:39 am

You are posting words on a screen, nothing more. No one is even reading you except me, and I'm going to bed. Rant on though, since that seems to be the only joy you have in life.

Hero??
12/16/2015 08:43:15 am

Yeah. You sad fucking hero.
You got caught saying stupid shit (which you STILL haven't adequately addressed).... you run your mouth about having this ability to 'kick ass in debate, then you run/hide/cower
You thought that someone would step in to help you while I was kicking YOUR ass. You got your ass kicked... but nobody did step in to save you from yourself.
Now... you want to pretend that you have defended yourself successfully... and you have bragged about how you keep flapping your lips until the 'other side' just stops responding... which for a simple minded fucktard like you... that is a victory?.... Apparently that indicates to you that you have been successful, rather than publicly dismantled.
Yeah... you are a true fucking hero

Jamie Eckles
12/16/2015 12:47:15 pm

No one mentioned heroes at all, unless you did in one of those long rants I skimmed through (who has time to read kookscreed?). You appear to be fighting some sort of war with me or Jason or who the fuck knows? No one else is in this fight but you, and that alone makes you look like the loser you are. Screed on kook, I don't even remember what it is you claim Jason stole from you, that's how effective your hate page is.

Epic.Fail.Tryagain
12/16/2015 01:50:13 pm

Aww.... Huckleberry...
I see that you have hit the 'Hysterical Princess' button.
You are a real treasure... comedy gold, for certain.
You claim that you are an internet ass-kicker, yet fail miserably at the task.
You also have failed to address the issue of your stupidity.... which actually shines a spotlight upon that stupidity.
You don't know when to quit.... which is another example of your stupidity.
You are a horrible failure at debate (or even making a valid fucking point), yet you believe that you actually mastered the concept.... making you a Master-Debater... a social media joke.
The reason that you have found no fucking support here... is that even the rest of the circle jerk society sees you as a buffoon.
But... if you wanna keep flappin', Poindexter, I have free time and the urge to use you as my personal fuck puppet.

Jerky
12/16/2015 02:26:31 pm

" I don't even remember what it is you claim Jason stole from you"

Jason stole his none existing thunder. I mean, its kind of hard to steal something from some one when what you steal doesn't belong to them in the first place. It would be like me claiming you stole my air and have a huge bitch fit over it

Jamie Eckles
12/16/2015 11:55:10 pm

Ah, well, it really doesn't matter so much what he claims Jason did. I just enjoy watching him rant and rave and go on and on about some sort of victory over me. It's amazing what some obsessive people will try to ascribe to nothing more than words on a screen. I wonder how else he thinks he's "kicking ass" here on this comments section where now there are 3 people reading it and no one else ;) Cyber warriors are the most amusing to me.

Jerky
12/17/2015 12:35:04 am

I'm just getting sick of his pointless comments, that have been flooding my email inbox.

Jamie Eckles
12/17/2015 01:50:26 am

Those are classic symptoms of obsessive compulsive disorder. I think there's something very wrong with him. He feels defeated in real life so he has to pretend he's "kicking ass" on a comment board. That's pretty sad. I assume you've got him filtered out of your email.

Jerky
12/17/2015 02:28:42 am

Short of clicking unsubscribe there's not much I know how to do on this topic. Hopefully he's gone now for another 6 months.

Blah.Blah.Blah
12/17/2015 08:54:42 am

You stayed up all night crying, Poindexter.??
No valid points to make.... just tears??
You still don't have anyone stepping in to save you from yourself, though.
They know better, I guess.
Keep snivelling, Princess.... the footprints I left tattooed on your ass should clear up for New Year's.

Jamie Eckles
12/17/2015 08:40:22 pm

Save me from what? Laughing at you and your raging control issues? You're too stupid to see that you've accomplished nothing but getting 2 people to pay attention to you for a little while, that's all. Now go back to enjoying your butthurt over Jason, or continue to imagine you're kicking people's asses on a comment board. Either way you win nothing.

Size10.Steel-Toed
12/17/2015 09:19:12 pm

When the proctologist removes the various footwear that he finds embedded up your sphincter from the ass kickings you have been getting, I think that I lost my work boot.
If the proctologist finds a steel-toed boot with kevlar lacing, that is mine.
Although... I imagine that the proctologist will find enough shoes buried in your ass that you guys could open up a Footlocker franchise.... I am only interested in the one boot.

Pee.Boy.hahaha
12/17/2015 09:24:19 pm

Wow!
I bequeath upon you the title of Pee-Boy!
I suddenly understand where you are coming from.
You have been worked up in a cartoon-like fury to the point where I am concerned that I will develop a bladder infection from pissing myself with laughter if you keep replying.
If you plan on continuing to run your fucking mouth... please wait until tomorrow; I might have to rush out and buy me some adult diapers if I am gonna keep reading your crap.

Jerky
12/17/2015 10:40:14 pm

Sorry Scott (If that even is your real name.), none of us could read your postings over the many shits we don't give. But do feel free to keep posting, every blog needs it's village idiot, and you got the job!

Jamie Eckles
12/17/2015 10:45:17 pm

I have no points to make with you. You are pointless. There is no ass to kick except your fevered imagination. I can see why you need to believe that though. Rage on, Sancho Panza.

Hewwo, Pee-Boy.Still Cryin'?
12/18/2015 09:42:10 am

Yeah!
My foot has been so far up your ass this past few days... it feels like I am wearing knee-high socks.
You still haven't been able to explain your initial stupidity..... you know what I mean.....
That part where you thought that you were being intelligent for noticing 'no comments' on a site that does not allow comments.
I am curious why you thought saying that stupid shit makes you seem 'less stupid' than a potato.
Keep Runnin', Pee-Boy. I am really having a good time reaming your ass with my tootsies.
I am beginning to think that you keep replying because the 'sex' is good.... and you enjoy having a foot inserted in your rectum.

Jamie Eckles
12/18/2015 07:51:45 pm

No one wants to read your perverted sexual fantasies. Actually, no one really is. It must really suck to be you, so desperately in search of an audience, or some sort of verbal victory you imagine you have had. You really can't see how no one cares, not even a tiny bit, about your rants and ravings and your hate page. I bet it doesn't even show up in a Google search until dozens of pages, if at all. I found Jason's blog doing a search on a subject, as many of his fans have. You can only dream of that happening to you, which is why you are so full of rage, and strange sexual fantasies. Pathetic

Jerky
12/18/2015 08:07:29 pm

Scott, dude. You really need to get that sick obsession with butts looked at.

U.R.Done???
12/19/2015 09:55:30 am

......and..... you still fail to address the issue of your stupidity.

Sex.Toy?
12/19/2015 10:55:49 am

Okay, Pee-Boy.... I am willing to let you off the hook.
If you can possibly explain your initial stupid comment.... I will stop beating you.
If you FINALLY realize that you should stop replying to your intellectual superiors with BS... I will stop beating you.
However...
If you continue your 'piss poor efforts' at engaging in the art of shit-chucking, I will view it as though you are trying to have sex with my foot while it is kicking your ass.
You will only succeed in keeping my feet warm, Pee-Boy!

Jerky
12/19/2015 02:25:17 pm

Scott, Is it just you, are all giantologiests extreme deviant perverts?

Jamie Eckles
12/20/2015 02:12:14 pm

It looks like the loser is beginning to realize that no one gives a fuck about his perverted fantasies. What a sad and pathetic person.

Joe D.
6/12/2015 04:13:31 am

Reading your post was quite entertaining. But you do realize that many scholars knew the earth was round for hundreds of years before Columbus and that no current scholar believes Columbus was first to America?

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Jamie Eckles link
6/12/2015 04:54:15 am

You are the first person to mention Columbus on this thread. Who are you replying to anyway? And for accuracy's sake it was Eratosthenes who calculated the circumference of the Earth in 240BC. Not hundreds, but more like over 1740 years previously.

Why bring up that non-sequitur?

Joe D.
6/12/2015 05:55:57 am

Replying to the link that the other person provided. His ranting blog against jason mentions odd claims of scholars believing in a flat earth prior to Columbus. He did not leave an opportunity to comment on his own blog and I thought his entire attack was not only ridiculous. But using his whole flat earth comparison made it comical

Jamie Eckles link
6/12/2015 05:37:46 pm

Thanks for clearing that up Joe. He's a butthurt kook who can't let go of how Jason handed his ass to him. He, and a few others, drop onto these posts every so often to remind us how the grudge they carry still burns. I wish this blog had a better way to attribute replies though.

Being Polite
12/15/2015 03:31:13 pm

And you are aware that Oxford University spent 300 years teaching that the earth was flat.... and actively working to undermine anyone who claimed otherwise.
Even after the Norse discoveries of the 1960s which proved that Columbus was not the first European to the Americas, there was a public outcry from various groups because it 'violated educational traditions' to say that Columbus was not the first.
This demonstrates that the educational establishment is more interested in achieving a consensus, not accuracy. It's been that way for almost 1000 years and it hasn't changed much (if at all).

Jamie Eckles
12/15/2015 04:12:03 pm

What is your source for Oxford teaching a flat Earth? Almost no one back then who had any education claimed the Earth was flat.

lurkster
6/12/2015 05:03:38 am

Wow! There is very profitable career waiting for you at the Church of Scientology's premier publication, FREEDOM MAGAZINE. You have their tactics, style and mindset down pat.

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John
7/2/2015 02:45:46 pm

Wolter has recently given an update on his twitter account:

Erica ‏@EricaKantowski
@RealScottWolter I absolutely love #AmericaUnearthed! When will there be a new season?!

Scott Wolter – ‏@RealScottWolter

@EricaKantowski New show should begin Augustish; I'll pass details along when I can.
11:39 AM - 1 Jul 2015
1 FAVORITE


There you go folks -- we should look forward to Scott Wolter's newest fantasies in August. Get ready for the bullshit.

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Johnnyhotcakes
12/20/2015 08:16:30 pm

Why is it stated as a fact that the KSR is a hoax? There is a good deal of evidence pointing to it being a genuine artifact. Too much discussion about Scott Wolter but what do you have on the KSR itself?

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Politely. Agree
1/2/2016 10:30:59 pm

That appears to be the single, Valid Point, that anyone has made here concerning the issue.
It appears that the content is based entirely upon attacking the guy... not assessing the KSR's authenticity. Just because the consensus here is so skewed, does not mean that legitimate scientists & academics are as 100% convinced. Any expert who is 100% certain is peddling BS, because even the most COMPETENT skeptical academic views it as an object worthy of continued study.
Most of the self-professed academics on this site do not have any background to make an informed statement on the issue... so they resort to attacking the individuals involved... then they chat amongst themselves and pretend that they did some 'science'.
Additionally,
There is a small list of unique relics that were allegedly unearthed at:
http://chronologiesbookofrelics.blogspot.ca/

But.... I have also been compiling a similar list that is based entirely upon Norse style artifacts in North America which adds more weight to the overall narrative of the KSR.
(Yes, Colavito... I said 'ADDS' to the narrative; not this type of pseudo-academic drivel where you attack people who have proven that you are irrelevant in the field of legitimate study))

To conclude, sir.... I believe that you have made an extremely valid, awesome point!

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A Final Thought to your Query
1/2/2016 10:36:40 pm

Not to be too pushy... but I did notice that you had posted your inquiry a couple weeks back.... and that none of these geniuses had an actual response to your VALID question.
This is a reflection of how poorly they defend their position when presented with a single, simple question/observation.
To be honest, you would have gotten a more intelligent response from a turnip, than the 'Scott Wolter' haters that thrive here... hiding from Scott Wolter.

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Cort Lindahl
4/1/2016 11:32:36 am

I have two 8.5x 11 books both 400 page plus of reasons why Scott Wolter is entirely WRONG about all of this. I have the data. I would be happy to debate Scott or supply a list of questions he won't be able to answer. For starters why is the Kensington Stone located right on the border of Rupert's Land and French Louisiana. The Hudson's Bay Company laid boundary stones and so did the French. The octagonal form of the Newport Tower "points to" the K stone on the globe every day of the year not just on a contrived solstice event. Why is Douglas County where the stone is located named for a direct descendant of Benedict Arnold and not some Viking guy who left the stone? This whole thing is a giant historical scam perpetrated by the Cavaliers of early Virginia and their descendants who also built several other monuments like the K stone including a reproduction of Stonehenge in Washington State. Louis Buff Parry's sandstone pillar and another legend of an additional "stone" in Minot are all located on the border of Rupert's Land. No one listens to this stuff. Boom I have two four hundred page books slamming down on the table that involve geography to prove that navigation was used in all of this as a kind of a game. I am here any time Scott Wolter wold like to chat about this. I have spoken to him before, he invited me on his show and now he claims he never read anything I wrote............

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