Recently, former television personality Scott Wolter appeared on the Earth Ancients radio show to discuss the Knights Templar in North America, and the interview started off about as badly as possible when the host, Cliff Dunning, asked Wolter to describe the “earliest” European arrival in the New World, which established that our host is basically trolling for white pride. This becomes clearer when Dunning returns to the question at the end and rephrases “European” into “pre-Native,” suggesting that he sees the first Americans as white. To his credit, Wolter redirected the question to Native American oral traditions, though these are rather fantastical claims about Native American “world elders” who claim to meet with representatives from every continent in the world every eight years, and have for tens of thousands of years. I need not note that there is no evidence of global confabs in Ice Age America—where communication across the continent was already a challenge, let alone globally—but perhaps it is an imaginary version of the more recent “World Elders Forum” of the past few years that brings together indigenous leaders from around the world.
A rather lengthy section of the interview rehearses the story of the Kensington Runestone yet again, and the only really interesting part of that discussion is the fact that Wolter is now invoking fringe history speculator Robert Schoch, a geologist, as a touchstone for the “scientific method” he employs. The name-check is interesting because Wolter has taken to citing him more frequently in recent years because of his desire to fold the fiction that the Sphinx is antediluvian into his own revisionist history of the world.
After this, Wolter expands on an old claim by creating a demonstrably false one. He now asserts that following the suppression of the Templar order, there was “an organized immigration, if you will, quietly by the Templars” through which hundreds or even thousands of the former knights emigrated to the future United States. “It didn’t start after the put down. It started before the putdown.” This is prima facie false since there are decent records of the fates of many of the Knights Templar, and so far as European records allow for reconstruction of their lives, there are not hundreds or thousands of missing men. Wolter anticipates this critique, retorting that “You don’t have any evidence that it didn’t happen, so we’re even, aren’t we? There’s this thing called the Kensington Rune Stone. There’s this thing called the Newport Tower. [...] So we do have evidence.” Yes, he actually said this. Let’s just make sure we’re clear: We know the names of many of the men who were Knights Templar, and they left traces in the legal and ecclesiastical documents of Europe. Wolter would need to find hundreds of missing men. Having gotten onto a tear about how the public and scholars “don’t understand” the hidden history of the world, Wolter offers that the elites leaders of the Templars were goddess-worshipers, and that they descended in direct “bloodline” relations from the royal family represented by Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene. Since Wolter does not establish a particular principle of descent—primogeniture? matriarchal descent? what?—it becomes impossible to take the claim seriously. It is often said that every European man is descended from Charlemagne along some branch of the family, and Charlemagne lived only 1,200 years ago. After the 1,300 years between Jesus and the end of the Templars, it would be similarly impossible for claims of ancestry to have any more than fictive meaning unless there is a specific and documented principle of descent and evidence that it was followed. I gather that he thinks that the Jesus bloodline were, in the manner of Preacher, incestuous but imagine this: Depending on the rule of descent they recognized, a single infidelity in those 1,300 years could negate all the efforts the conspiracy undertook. It happened to the Romanovs, in all likelihood, and there have been rumors about other royal houses. What are the chances that the Jesus bloodline, should such a thing even have existed, remained fanatically pure for 1,300 years or more? Wolter also slips into New Age hippie mode, rhapsodizing about goddess worship and repeating a Noble Savage style claim that Native Americans lived in perfect harmony with nature: “Can you name another culture around the globe that has the ability to live in harmony with their environment better than Native Americans?” The archaeological record does not support the idea that Native peoples had basically no impact on the environment. Wolter claims that the Templars simply told no one about their American colony until long after their intermarriage with Native people caused them all to assimilate and disappear from the historical record. That seems wrong to me, since when the Norse established Vinland, news quickly leaked out and spread to the Danes, who leaked it to the guy who leaked it to Adam of Bremen, who wrote about it. How, pray tell, did a continental organization, shipping thousands of men across the ocean, keep all of their friends and family from ever breathing a word about their relatives’ disappearance? Beyond this, it’s clear that Wolter is possessed of a sloganeering form of American nationalism, for he attributes this behavior to the Templars’ hatred of the “tyranny and oppression of the monarchs of Europe, right?” Wrong. There is no suggestion in Templar documents that they opposed European monarchy, and in the Levant they served to defend and protect the Latin Kingdom established by European aristocrats. Similar to the anti-Catholic Americans of the nineteenth century, Wolter claims that the Templars hated the Church that they spent centuries serving, and he alleges that they were advocates of freedom of religion. Wolter explicitly links both propositions to the founding of the United States, which he falsely sees as the only place where anti-monarchical and anti-clerical beliefs flourished. Since he is unfamiliar with European history, he has no recognition of the similar sentiments that drove the Protestant Reformation, the English Civil War, and numerous other uprisings and convulsions before the establishment of the United States, and which served as precedent and model for the Founders of America, more so than any imaginary goddess cult of social democrats. Wolter suggests that academics and government officials are covering up the truth about Templar colonies in America for fear that the Templars would be able to claim America based on the imaginary land claim he pretends the Kensington Runestone to be. In testament to how little Wolter has actually done in the six years since America Unearthed debuted, Dunning directs the interview back to the pilot episode of that show, and Wolter rehearses its plot and his claims from the show for what must be the hundredth time. He spices it up a bit with knee-jerk spasms of outrage against “academics” whom he views as a dogmatic keepers of a massive lie. Dunning, who confessed to having no knowledge of early American history and no knowledge of Christian dogma, nevertheless feels comfortable asserting that academics have both all wrong. Wolter adds that he believes that the World Elders made copies of all the documents in the Library of Alexandria and spirited them off to secret repositories. But, he added, he does not want to “get into it.” Of course he doesn’t want to prove his claims by providing these documents. Wolter also explains his descent into numerology, repeating earlier claims about Masonic secret numbers encoded in the Kensington Runestone but now tying them to New Age mysticism circulating in feminist web discussions about the number 13 belonging to the goddess and 14 symbolizing resurrection, and he declares that Jesus is nothing more than a Christianized Osiris—a claim derived from, but more extreme than, the frequently discussed parallels between the Egyptian and Christian resurrection stories. As the interview comes to a close, Wolter says that the number 8 is also a goddess number, and therefore the eight-sided Dome of the Rock and the round Newport Tower (the Old Windmill) are both connected through secret goddess worship. He alleges that the Templars copied Temple Mount architecture for the Newport Tower (actually built as a windmill in colonial times—though Wolter denies this, claiming that it is structurally unfit for that purpose). Yet the Dome is an octagon and the Tower is circular. He also wrongly feels that the five-pointed stars on the U.S. flag derive from the apparent path of Venus over its eight-year cycle. The actual reason is more prosaic: The Flag Act of 1777 failed to specify the number of points on the stars, and early flag makers used five-pointed stars because English heraldry—which was part of the common Anglo-French culture of the colonial era—used five pointed stars, while Germanic heraldry used six-pointed stars. It was just what was familiar and customary. Wolter finished the interview by urging young adults to “demand” that their professors allow them to pursue conspiracy theories about the peopling of the Americas, and he claimed, rather grandly, that young people will overturn the conclusions of historians and archaeologists because of their belief in alternative history. Wolter claims that he has new information at the ready but “can’t” talk about it, by which he means that he won’t talk about it until someone pays him to do so. “Buckle up baby because the real fun is soon to begin,” he promised, ominously.
251 Comments
Joe Scales
4/12/2018 10:15:48 am
Wolter abides by science just like the Three Stooges abide by OSHA.
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Raparee
4/12/2018 10:41:11 am
Scott Wolter is an idiot.
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Americanegro
4/12/2018 12:42:39 pm
Preach! He's also "structurally unfit".
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DPBROKAW
4/12/2018 10:06:25 pm
Wolter has talked himself into a position of being to ridiculous to be taken seriously by anybody but the most ardent followers.
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DPBROKAW
4/12/2018 10:08:53 pm
He is starting to sound like Giorgio Tsoukalos from Ancient Aliens. Talks himself into any senecio he wants to believe in.
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DPBROKAW
4/12/2018 10:11:17 pm
That was supposed to be “scenerio”, not senecio.
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Mars Napoleon
4/12/2018 10:55:06 am
Wolter's talk about templar descendants laying claim to America via the Kensington Rune Stone reminds me of an old Carl Barks comic where the villain attempts to do pretty much the same.
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Doc Rock
4/12/2018 10:59:18 am
That would be an interesting paradigm shift. Students can propose all sorts of outlandish fringe theories and the burden is on the professors to prove them wrong. Safe to assume that there would be a constant moving of the goalpost in terms of what would be required to prove them wrong. Serving on a thesis committee is already a pain in the ass. The new Wolter academic paradigm would make dissertation and theses defenses prime material for reality TV.
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Americanegro
4/12/2018 12:18:59 pm
Wolter's already done that; you just have to prove a negative and it's mentioned in the article: “You don’t have any evidence that it didn’t happen, so we’re even, aren’t we?"
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Clete
4/12/2018 11:00:46 am
I've said it before and I will say it again. Scott Wolter needs a new television show. The show should be about fishing. He with his fake Master degree could travel across the the country, or even the world, depending on who would fund him and visit rivers, streams and lakes showing us the correct baits to use. I even have a title...Scott Wolter, the Master Baiter.
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Joe Scales
4/12/2018 11:12:42 am
Again with the whole trite thing, eh? No, the show that needs development would be:
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Jim
4/12/2018 12:39:25 pm
"An Idiots Guide to History, with Scott Wolter"
Joe Scales
4/12/2018 12:41:56 pm
It also works as a sitcom. He'd of course play himself; never realizing the joke is on him.
Kal
4/12/2018 11:48:52 am
13 or M or XIII is street slang for mary jane, not the Mary line.
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Doc Rock
4/12/2018 01:30:16 pm
Unfortunately, this is a strange world where "not disproven" is the coin of the realm.
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Jim
4/12/2018 04:56:38 pm
I like Wolters comment that Native elders were attending intercontinental meetings tens of thousands of years ago.
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BigNick
4/12/2018 05:50:01 pm
13 can also be La Eme and 14 Nortenos.
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Jim
4/12/2018 06:11:42 pm
"Wolter Logic" is that like jumbo shrimp ?
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Machala
4/12/2018 11:51:41 pm
Scott Wolter's is called Chief Walking Eagle by Native Americans.
Dunior
4/12/2018 06:03:19 pm
Have never seen anyone so wrong about anything ever. Dude simply makes things up and then defends them as if they are fact. He also liberally borrows from other people cherry picking their more rational views to support his bizarre notions. He does not think twice about borrowing ideas from others and that is being kind. An info thief that does not even understand that which he steals.
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Debbie
4/12/2018 06:46:29 pm
I think its pretty funny reading all the comments putting scott down. When did all of you investigate what hes been researching? Have you gone to different countries looking for evidence? No. A lot of us are armchair downers. Too bad too.
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Jim
4/12/2018 07:10:14 pm
ooh,, Scott dosen't even rate a capitol letter with Debby,,
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BigNick
4/12/2018 07:31:17 pm
But has never found any evidence.
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Dunior
4/12/2018 07:41:27 pm
You guys leave Scott alone. No fair. (Whimpering and crying). Just leave him alone. You guys are so mean. Leave Brittany uh I mean Scott alone. You are so mean I just can't believe you don't believe him. None of you even knows what a Templar is and are stupid for not thinking Native American's are really "Templars." You people have never even read a book about any of this or studied history for thirty years and don't know anything at all. (laughing hysterically). Moohoohoohohahahahahah!
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Doc Rock
4/12/2018 07:47:28 pm
If even part of what Wolter claims was true then it would be quite apparent in the archaeological record right here at home. Visiting other countries to demonstrate that rock carvings or architecture over there is kinda sorta similar to some stuff found here isn't proving much of anything. Its just playing into the image of globetrotting adventurer who is all hat and no cattle. If he wants to work that hustle then so be it. But to act surprised and outraged that it draws extensive criticism makes one look like a drama queen. .
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DPBROKAW
4/12/2018 10:20:57 pm
It doesn’t require leaving the country and or “investigating” to put wolter down (as you put it). It doesn’t even require leaving that comfortable armchair you mentioned. Common sense and access to the internet are enough in this case to disprove or discredit wolter.
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Doc Rock
4/12/2018 11:18:15 pm
The beauty of the internet is that it makes it easy to research the track record of fringe theorists. It is amazing how many times they claim to be on the verge of making an earthshaking revelation, but then the next year they are chasing something else. If I was in the position to make some startling discovery I would be inclined to stick with it.
Jim
4/12/2018 11:31:49 pm
Wolter keeps saying "stay tuned" then complains every time I quote him on his blog.
Debbie
4/12/2018 10:38:41 pm
Alright already. Lol i didnt realize this can had so many worms in it. Lol my phone is making way too much noise. Lol
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Americanegro
4/12/2018 08:43:31 pm
Be advised that the Wolter nonsense doesn't start until about 52 minutes in.
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Jim
4/12/2018 09:24:56 pm
"Ah, the monolithic Native American beliefs!"
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Americanegro
4/13/2018 01:33:57 pm
And Cistercian monks who by that time were supposed to be celibate.
Jim
4/13/2018 02:09:24 pm
Hi, We are fastidious Christian Templar Knights from far away. Well except for those guys with their tongues hanging out, they are rune carving Cistercian monks from Scandinavia. Some of our leaders worship the Earth Goddess, so, we will need you to give us about 2000 of your women for sex purposes, okay ?
Joe Scales
4/13/2018 10:22:36 am
" It would be interesting to see the 13 affidavits he mentions at the Minnesota Historical Society (MHS). If they exist, because our Scott does lie."
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Joe Scales
4/13/2018 11:39:02 am
Here's a paper alleging the original affidavits were lost:
Patrick Shekleton
4/13/2018 01:51:43 pm
Joe,
Jim
4/13/2018 02:20:24 pm
Patrick:
Americanegro
4/13/2018 02:45:21 pm
Patrick,
David Bradbury
4/13/2018 02:47:04 pm
Either 10 years or 30-40 years would only have the effect of ruling out Ohman, while allowing one or more of the many Swedish people who had arrived in the area since the unfortunate events of 1862-3 to be the stone's potential creators.
Americanegro
4/13/2018 02:54:54 pm
Assumes facts not in evidence: that the story of the stone's discovery is true.
Joe Scales
4/13/2018 02:58:46 pm
My dear Patrick... you are an imbecile. And thanks Jim for the clarification so I don't have to correct Patrick's hallucination.
Patrick Shekleton
4/13/2018 03:02:00 pm
A.N.,
Joe Scales
4/13/2018 03:08:46 pm
You know it is humorous Patrick, that you would declare that Wolter wins due to you not understanding the plain meaning of written words. That's your "research" in a nutshell.
Patrick Shekleton
4/13/2018 04:18:22 pm
David B.,
Patrick Shekleton
4/13/2018 04:39:27 pm
Joe,
Patrick Shekleton
4/13/2018 05:08:16 pm
AN,
Jim
4/13/2018 06:25:05 pm
Patrick:
David Bradbury
4/13/2018 06:37:23 pm
One thing worth bearing in mind is that the Ohman plot had originally, when the township was created in 1870, been allocated as "improvement land" rather than being made available immediately for a tenant. In effect, that made it possible to conceal a post-1863 fake runestone until either an opportune moment arrived to reveal it, or its creation had been forgotten.
Patrick Shekleton
4/13/2018 06:50:31 pm
David B.,
Patrick Shekleton
4/13/2018 07:03:59 pm
Jim,
Jim
4/13/2018 07:58:30 pm
Patrick, nobody really cares about the trees age, the point Joe was making that you evidently completely missed was:
Jim
4/12/2018 10:11:17 pm
We interrupt your regularly scheduled Wolter nonsense to bring you this new Marzulli quote.
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Jim
4/12/2018 10:14:31 pm
Oops, Richard Shaw quote on Marzulli's site.
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Kal
4/13/2018 12:00:53 pm
Not to mention an actual descendant (by marriage, I guess), of the KRS creator who occasionally trolls here to inform them it is a fake.
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Other
4/13/2018 07:28:09 pm
Pat- if you use Scott's statement to determine if something is true, '' you don't have any evidence that it didn't happen'', that is giving the detractors of the KRS concerning the age of the tree the Same level playing field as Scott seems to think he should only have. Buddy, he needs to accept the same.
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Patrick Shekleton
4/13/2018 08:28:10 pm
Other,
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Patrick Shekleton
4/13/2018 08:34:23 pm
Jim,
Jim
4/13/2018 08:47:49 pm
It sounded like Dunning had tuned out Wolter completely, and was nodding off at times.
Americanegro
4/13/2018 10:39:13 pm
It wasn't "a strange radio interview" at all. One, it was a podcast, two, it was typical of our Scott. He even, AGAIN, claimed to have an honorary Master's degree, which is quite simply an instance of our Scott lying.
Joe Scales
4/14/2018 09:06:28 am
Alex, I'll take "Hoaxes Patrick hasn't fallen for" for a hundred...
Jim
4/14/2018 02:53:38 pm
From Joes Link"
Joe Scales
4/14/2018 03:23:42 pm
Holland acted as a translator for Winchell's investigation.
Jim
4/14/2018 04:32:52 pm
Yes, Winchell's investigation, was that the one where Holand was not on the committee but still managed to author part of the conclusions in favor of authenticity ?
Jim
4/14/2018 04:34:02 pm
https://books.google.ca/books?id=taCTBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA73&lpg=PA73&dq=Arthur+Ohman+Holand&source=bl&ots=iN7Ja4X_yO&sig=8kDhM57YknrYTPAuNHqz_UZ4BbM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjTha70x7raAhXJ5p8KHXTZA9wQ6AEIUzAN#v=onepage&q=Arthur%20Ohman%20Holand&f=false
Jim
4/14/2018 05:24:30 pm
Quite the winch to pull out a 40 year old tree, lol
Americanegro
4/14/2018 07:30:46 pm
The question that hasn't been asked: Why did no one count the rings?
Jim
4/14/2018 11:54:20 pm
Meh,,, Holand had them cut down some other trees and they counted their rings. It's like comparing the buried KRS to weather exposed gravestones made out of a different sort of rock in a completely different coastal environment. It becomes very pertinent if it supports your asinine claims.
Only Me
4/14/2018 04:08:09 am
I see Wolter isn't having any luck selling his megalithic yarns. Perhaps he should open a coffee shop and offer honorary degrees online.
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Jim
4/14/2018 10:28:58 am
Yikes, don't give them any ideas. His partner Pulitzer could publish course study textbooks like "Things Your Professor Won't Tell You" and "Every Law Ever Written Everywhere" as well as various white papers. And they might bring Roger Spurr on board with his already established Mud Fossil University
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Dunior
4/14/2018 02:14:24 pm
Look everyone Scott has unleashed his lap dog on all of us here instead of showing up himself to defend this madness. Patrick is only a little less full of it than Wolter himself. "Chronognostic" Lmao. Get a lifestyle. Still laughing. I think Patrick should switch over to defending the Flat Earth Theory. More evidence saying that if real. Patrick has a b.s. answer for all the fakery. lol
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Patrick Shekleton
4/14/2018 08:57:18 pm
A.N.
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Joe Scales
4/14/2018 09:38:16 pm
"You can see the structure outlines and wagon trails in the 1950 USGS Earth Explorer aerial photos."
Americanegro
4/14/2018 09:42:57 pm
Oh Patrick, I feel you miss the point, but I award you a complimentary gelato, which as you know is an honorary bachelor's degree.
Jim
4/14/2018 10:02:57 pm
Good lord,,, "What is Ohman doing grubbing trees on Flaten's land?"
Jim
4/14/2018 10:34:26 pm
Joe, do you know who it was that tried to get Arthur Ohman to make a statement and lie about the stoneholes around the KRS site. He tried to get Arthur to say they they predated the Ohmans and Arthur got mad and made a witnessed statement telling the truth.
Joe Scales
4/15/2018 09:49:10 am
Jim, I'm out at stoneholes. I never got that far into the ridiculous scenarios posed by those in support of authenticity of the Kensington Rune Stone. But getting back to the entanglement, one fact is indisputable. That is that Ohman had an article cut out in his scrap book from a prior European account of the discovery of a carved stone entangled in tree roots. Then he "finds" one too...
Patrick Shekleton
4/14/2018 11:48:35 pm
Was the number recorded incorrectly? Possible. Holvik didn't think so, he felt it pointed to something else. Which lead to him speculating decades ago...and which leads many of you to similar speculation today. Everyone tries to find the point zero...with varying success. I tell you where to find the evidence of structures on Flaten's land and your initial reaction is to pooh-pa it. I don't story-tell...i give you things that you can evaluate and make your own determination on. You can test it. That you will most likely reach a different conclusion than mine is almost certain, but that comes with the territory.
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Jim
4/15/2018 12:05:57 am
You are getting worse than Wolter, The statement said the KRS's was found 500 feet from Flatens house, IT WASN'T !!!!
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Patrick Shekleton
4/15/2018 01:15:12 am
A. Survey map with structure denoted. B. Aerial photo which is secondary confirmation of map illustration.
Jim
4/15/2018 01:57:32 am
Patrick:
Joe Scales
4/15/2018 10:03:07 am
The smoking gun is and always has been the carved runes in the calcite. That was the fatal flaw for the hoax. Whether the rock was buried from inception (a Wolter confirmation bias contingency) or exposed to the elements for only a few decades, the runes carved in the calcite would have necessarily been rendered illegible.
Americanegro
4/15/2018 01:44:06 am
The fact that NO ONE COUNTED THE RINGS suggests to me that it's all a fake and a scam.
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Researcher
4/15/2018 09:10:51 am
Before some of this gets out of hand- John Erickson with also spellings on old Douglas Co. maps, Errikson- did buy the land east of the Improvement Land in 1880. This comes from papers from their Historical Society and Courthouse. He Sold the northern parcel of land To Flaten. Yes, he did build on the south parcel. If you read farther in Zapffe's writing, even Arthur Ohman mentioned him. Erickson also bought a piece of land just N of Ohman in 1890-wood lot, makes sense. He later moved to another land plot, still in the area. As far as I know, no one has looked into his background.
Patrick Shekleton
4/15/2018 06:37:16 pm
A.N.
Jim
4/15/2018 08:01:46 pm
Hmmm,
Americanegro
4/16/2018 02:15:00 am
"PATRICK SHEKLETON
Jim
4/15/2018 01:44:08 am
Hahahahaha So now there was a second house ? And although Holvic was standing exactly where it was,,,,,,,,,he didn't notice it ?? And nobody pointed this out or disputed this ??
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Patrick Shekleton
4/16/2018 06:55:07 am
A.N.,
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Americanegro
4/16/2018 12:40:42 pm
So... the affidavits, which YOU SAID you were going to "timeline" whatever that means, don't exist. Nice. Why couldn't you admit that from the get-go, from Jump Street?
Patrick Shekleton
4/15/2018 10:50:02 pm
Jim,
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Jim
4/16/2018 12:17:28 am
Your reading comprehension needs some work, page ten says
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Gunn (aka Bob Voyles)
4/16/2018 10:34:40 am
Everyone seems to appreciate the good geologist, Winchell. So, if we may peacefully turn away from trees for a few moments, we may find something impressive: a peninsula-island, once surrounded by a more watery landscape. No, not to support big Viking ships anchored to stonehole rocks. Winchell pointed out a ravine that had been slowly eroding over time, gradually lowering the water level surrounding Runestone Hill. (In this discourse, we may disregard any "modern" attempts to drain or fill the somewhat swampy landscape we see today.)
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Americanegro
4/16/2018 01:49:31 pm
"A defensive camping place" is code for "where we're going to be slaughtered" SERGEANT. Erdahl Axe found under a tree? It's funny how so many interesting things get found under trees. It's almost like someone's lying.
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Jim
4/16/2018 02:04:26 pm
Gunn,
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Joe Scales
4/16/2018 03:48:43 pm
Jim, don't let Winchell off the hook. I believe it was Harold Edwards who reminded us Winchell was using 19th century geology. Dick Nielsen also dug up the confirmed Paleoliths of Kansas hoax that Winchell fell for, again venturing outside of his expertise (http://www.academia.edu/3552198/A_Reappraisal_of_Winchell_s_Paleoliths_of_Kansas).
Jim
4/16/2018 04:37:11 pm
I am not very organized, I just look this stuff up as the occasion arises.
Dunior
4/16/2018 11:50:35 am
So shocked to see all this intense debate over something that was obviously faked not long before Mr. Ohman found it. Pathetic that we are even talking about this. Unfortunately this is one subject matter we should just let die and go away. Obviously a failed attempt that was part of a Nationalist movement at the time it was created and 99% of the analysis of the entire thing is bogus. Get a grip people.
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Joe Scales
4/16/2018 12:17:42 pm
Unfortunately, the obvious eludes many. Wolter, who built his Fringe reputation with his faulty historical takes, bad science and penchant for non sequitur in this regard, has actively profited from it. Those that follow on the lowest rung of the ladder and pollute the blog accordingly, can't be helped. They are imbeciles who don't even recognize the industry behind what motivates them. Worthless to argue with them, I agree.
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Americanegro
4/16/2018 12:34:06 pm
Yes. We're not studying snake oil, we're studying snake oil salesmen and those who think snake oil is real. Like Patrick.
Jim
4/16/2018 03:13:04 pm
" Worthless to argue with them, I agree. "
Dunior
4/16/2018 10:24:57 pm
I'm sure some of you have read or seen this before. When I checked this out to me it was game set and match that the entire thing was a hoax based on Nationalist ideals.
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Joe Scales
4/17/2018 11:24:16 am
Yeah, the KRS was pretty much dead on arrival as a confirmed hoax, but then new generations of promoters enter the picture. Wolter is of course the latest one, who used the notoriety of his petrography business to venture far outside of his expertise to opine in regard to history when the History Channel/H2 gave him a special on the KRS leading up his series.
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Jim
4/17/2018 12:43:35 pm
" equivocation" What a perfect word to describe Wolters musings.
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JavyLopez
4/17/2018 12:55:01 pm
I'm thinking, "Lunatic". Even a conman has to have some sense of reality to base the con on. This stuff....Just Wow.
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Americanegro
4/17/2018 02:22:45 pm
My take is that he is both a con man and a lunatic, imagines himself to be a Templar, according to his own definition which is that of a 4 year old wearing a sheet for a cape, and feels free to talk about Masonic secrets he has vowed not reveal. I think Blackfriars Bridge would be a suitable ending for our Scott. He leans really heavily on "I was raised as a Mason". Now here "raised" means "went through some rigamarole a couple years ago". It's just a term of art, it's not a lie like his lie that he recently retold about an honorary Master's Degree.
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JavyLopez
4/17/2018 12:49:35 pm
Now I am really confused. I thought that in "Pirate Treasure of the Knights Templar" Wolter had CONCLUSIVE evidence that the Templars went to Portugal, and, using "secret texts", discovered the different winds and currents that allowed them to open the passage to the Indian Ocean, where they hid all their fabulous secret treasures while flying the Jolly Roger.
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Joe Scales
4/17/2018 02:02:08 pm
Oh yeah, the pirate treasure of the knights Templar... That's the one where Wolter announced that Saint Anthony was the patron saint of thieves. When called out on it, he blamed it on the show's historian... which HE was supposed to be. You just can't make this up.
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Jim
4/18/2018 08:45:07 pm
In what world does an American geologist not know what and where the Continental divide is ? Isn't it kind of a big thing in North American geology ? Scott thinks it's near where the KRS was found.
Americanegro
4/19/2018 12:36:06 pm
Jim,
Only Me
4/19/2018 09:32:05 pm
@Jim
Jim
4/19/2018 10:09:22 pm
perhaps there are other divides, but I always thought "The" continental / great divide referred to the North/south one that divided the entire continent.
Jim
4/19/2018 10:11:32 pm
AN,,,, the stupidest person north of the south pole ?
Only Me
4/19/2018 10:25:44 pm
Jim, you are correct. That's why I'm wondering what the hell Wolter is talking about. I don't think even he can keep track of the fake facts he spews.
Americanegro
4/18/2018 04:54:06 pm
Javylopez, I enjoyed the heck out of that. The concept that carving a stone in the middle of nowhere where you don't control a single square inch of territory, is a property claim, is RISIBLE. Scott Wolter should get the same treatment his father did.
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JavyLopez
4/18/2018 06:32:44 pm
Thanks! Risible...That's Scotty W to the "T".
Dunior
4/17/2018 03:15:46 pm
Scot was up to it again last night on another radio show. Here he reveals more about what he refused to say on the show linked above in Jason's article. He has found the vault!.....but still won't tell what's in it or where it is.....but you must be a Freemason to understand.
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Jim
4/17/2018 06:22:22 pm
Thanks for the heads up. It's too long to take in one sitting. Wolter comes on around the 33 minute mark.
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Jim
4/17/2018 10:56:35 pm
And part two, I could only take it to the two hour mark,, no mas, no mas. I think I no know what it feels like to have a lobotomy, yikes over an hour of Wolter.
Jim
4/17/2018 11:09:57 pm
Jeez maybe the Masons were on the moon.
Patrick Shekleton
4/18/2018 10:09:20 pm
1912 survey map: http://www.historicmapworks.com/Map/US/478294/Solem+Township++Kensington/Douglas+County+1912/Minnesota/
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Patrick Shekleton
4/18/2018 10:13:29 pm
USGS Earth Explorer:
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Jim
4/19/2018 02:25:13 am
Patrick:
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Patrick Shekleton
4/19/2018 06:57:53 am
Jim,
Joe Scales
4/19/2018 08:49:36 am
Residences? Or perhaps... CHANCELS!!!
Americanegro
4/19/2018 01:06:24 pm
I find the exclamation marks oddly soothing. I have emailed the helpdesk to cancel my chancel.
Fringe Guy
4/19/2018 12:32:06 pm
Patrick. Do you have a UTM for the location of the discovery of the stone originally? At least a ballpark? Or a link to a map or imagery that has this marked. Thank you.
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Jim
4/19/2018 12:57:18 pm
Fringe Guy; Easily seen on google earth,
Fringe Guy
4/19/2018 01:11:48 pm
Thank you Jim. I was just wondering because it is obvious that people have been visiting that site since the early 1860's. There was even a road leading from the east just north of this site and of course the Red River Trail was only about a mile and a quarter to the south. There are likely Section and quarter section stone cairn markers in the area as well. A few other sources say it is a little more to the west near the visitors center. I am guessing the location you gave is where the modern monument is located today? I have seen some very elaborate section markers from the same era in other parts of the country.
Jim
4/19/2018 01:20:05 pm
" I am guessing the location you gave is where the modern monument is located today? "
Patrick Shekleton
4/19/2018 02:16:08 pm
Jim's coordinates got you there. There is a marker on the north side of the park road, 45;48;38.94N, 95;39;40.58W. I have been told that the stone's actual location was just across the road from the marker. The monuments at the top of the hill (end of the road) is not the discovery location.
Fringe Guy
4/19/2018 08:07:39 pm
Thank you Patrick and Jim. I appreciate the help. I found a Section marker in the western U.S. with Ogham on it in the past and also some that are elaborately stacked up to 10' plus in height using slabs of lava. I already published an article showing how the southeast corner of Ohman's property is at a quarter quarter section point. In modern terms this is about 260 feet south from where the KRS monument is today. So that is kind of strange. I also found that one of the surveyors on the earliest map of the area was directly associated with the people I had already speculated were behind the entire thing. Coincidentally the Church and yard where Mr. Ohman is buried is at the same latitude as this point on earth (West end of the middle of Section 15 near the road). Also kind of strange. To me things are looking grim for the Templar's in America angle. But great observations from both of you.
Patrick Shekleton
5/9/2018 10:02:47 pm
Original plat book, 1912: http://geo.lib.umn.edu/plat_books/stateofmn1916/reference/map00927.jpg
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Patrick Shekleton
5/10/2018 09:11:41 pm
http://www.historicmapworks.com/Map/US/32223/Solem/Douglas+County+1886/Minnesota/
Jim
5/10/2018 10:40:06 pm
So what ?
Joe Scales
5/11/2018 03:36:39 pm
I'd say Patrick can't see the forest for the trees... but he can't even see the trees.
Jim
4/19/2018 09:32:44 am
You just won't quit will you !!!!!!
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Jim
4/19/2018 09:44:44 am
First you mistake three little dots as a "cluster" of of buildings and now you change your story to a single building that is absolutely not east of the KRS, where you say it is. What's next ?
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Jim
4/19/2018 11:44:03 am
Patrick, here is your original statement;
Joe Scales
4/20/2018 04:29:47 pm
Jim, what do you expect trying to reason with the likes of Patrick. Didn't he feed Wolter a reverse negative image taken above the Newport Tower and try to maintain that it showed the remnants of the construction of a Templar chancel? Then he was shown that a non-reverse negative image... i.e. a real one... revealed a tree in the spot of his imagined chancel. How many dozens of posts did he dance around that one, never admitting the scope of his bungling. And you expect him to what... come around and realize he's an imbecile? Admit he's wasted years following fools? Good luck with that man.
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Jim
4/20/2018 05:33:48 pm
It's the scientific method. Don't use the evidence to form your conclusions, make, or invent evidence that shows the conclusions you have already made.
Americanegro
4/20/2018 05:43:12 pm
And here's another thing. If the building was "structurally unfit" to be a windmill, then why in the earliest known written reference, which Patrick acknowledged as such after much tooth pulling, did Benedict Arnold refer to it as "my windmill"? Was he in the habit of going around imagining that things which weren't windmills were windmills? Is Wolter calling Don Quixote on Arnold?
Patrick Shekleton
4/20/2018 06:12:09 pm
Some comments are actually funny, for example, the "cancel the chancel" line resonates. That was a good laugh and the wit can be appreciated. "Free Joe's tree" just doesn't resonate. The outlines of the two trees whose branches extended over into the ground feature area were identified in the original slide deck (in the negative (inverted color) image as it presented better), so your assessment which you write about here doesn't hold water, Joe. Whether the outline which presented in a range of aerial photos is actually the outline of a structure on the east side of the NT, or not, it will require ground truth to validate. The Johnny Appleseed on Wolter's blog was contending, among other things, that the outline WAS the tree. Wrong answer. Are you fond of apples, Joe?
Jim
4/20/2018 06:25:49 pm
Patrick is probably eating a lot of porridge these days, I had to pull a few teeth as well, to get the maps that "proved" Holvic wrong.
Patrick Shekleton
4/20/2018 06:28:12 pm
A.N.,
Jim
4/20/2018 06:41:01 pm
Patrick;
Patrick Shekleton
4/20/2018 06:52:09 pm
Jim,
BigNick
4/20/2018 07:06:44 pm
Patrick-
Jim
4/20/2018 07:25:47 pm
Patrick:
Patrick Shekleton
4/20/2018 07:35:42 pm
BigNick,
Patrick Shekleton
4/20/2018 08:15:48 pm
Here's how not to expend an hour looking for a photo on USGS Earth Explorer:
Jim
4/20/2018 09:12:15 pm
Thanks Tips, but I already got this. Maybe next time save some teeth and just give a link, like I already did for all YOUR evidence.
Americanegro
4/20/2018 09:19:26 pm
Patrick:
Joe Scales
4/20/2018 10:26:28 pm
I'd say Patrick was intellectually dishonest, but as he has no intellect, it's only a half truth.
Jim
4/20/2018 10:33:08 pm
"I find it fascinating that Arnold could not travel 100 miles in England therefore never saw a windmill, but somehow made it to Rhode Island. "
Patrick Shekleton
4/20/2018 11:07:06 pm
The Chesterton Windmill connection is bunk. The speculation that Arnold saw, or did not see, that structure is absolute speculation based on a mistaken understanding that Arnold grew up a few miles distant, which he didn't. The C.W. is not probative in any regard for the NT. The mistaken location of where Arnold lived was written about in the last quarter of the 19th century.
Jim
4/20/2018 11:18:00 pm
" The C.W. is not probative in any regard for the NT"
Americanegro
4/20/2018 11:21:01 pm
You will note that I specified a distance of 100 miles so I am under no misapprehension as to where Arnold lived. You attribute to me an argument I did not make. Indeed I said that he did NOT travel that distance.
Jim
4/20/2018 11:49:45 pm
Patrick:
Patrick Shekleton
4/21/2018 06:40:59 am
A.N.,
Patrick Shekleton
4/21/2018 07:43:58 am
Jim,
Jim
4/21/2018 11:30:47 am
Right so, anyone who was actually in North America is out by default.
Joe Scales
4/21/2018 11:41:09 am
And here it was I thought Patrick's position could only be calculated by celestial observation as plotted by the megalithic yard...
Gunn
4/19/2018 10:55:36 am
From just above: "Scott Wolter should get the same treatment his father did."
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Americanegro
4/19/2018 12:54:49 pm
SOME newcomers are treated as they deserve. Most are treated nicely. I don't think your throwing around racial slurs helps matters.
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A Nuddhist
4/19/2018 06:26:48 pm
The obligation of a first degree Freemason (Entered Apprentice degree):
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Patrick Shekleton
4/21/2018 12:19:09 pm
Jim,
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Jim
4/21/2018 02:06:42 pm
Goodness, gracious, you have got me there Patrick !
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Jim
4/21/2018 07:29:50 pm
Patrick, back to your "revised" original argument about Flaten's house. For the sake of argument, say you are right, and Flatens house was southeast of Ohman's land.
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Jim
4/21/2018 07:32:10 pm
Should read ,,,,If Holvic went 500 feet WEST from this "new" location
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Patrick Shekleton
4/22/2018 12:53:02 pm
Jim,
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Jim
4/22/2018 02:49:13 pm
Blah, blah blah,
Jim
4/22/2018 03:21:21 pm
And furthermore, what the hell makes you think you or Wolter for that matter, are in the least bit qualified to judge Henrik William's work ? And the rest of the runic scholars who overwhelmingly reject Wolters nonsense.
Americanegro
4/22/2018 03:26:55 pm
It is NEVER reprehensible to accuse the "finder" of an object to be the perpetrator or victim of a hoax. You may still be able to recover repressed memories of that runic carving that fooled Wolter until the hoaxers got wind of it and came forward. Also the discussion here some months back about using a toothpick and credit card to measure the KRS. The same poster tried to pawn off photos taken from different angles as "3-D Scans". There's plenty of reprehensible to go around, but it's never even inappropriate to suspect a hoax and the finder is always the likely suspect.
Americanegro
4/22/2018 04:06:30 pm
"Henrik William's work on the NRS, in my opinion, reflects negatively on his professional qualifications."
Jim
4/22/2018 04:11:40 pm
"I personally suspect that Wolter's recently revealed 3 character "runic" carving, bigger than any he's seen before is either a hoax or practice carving by an aspiring hoaxer."
Americanegro
4/22/2018 09:08:24 pm
Here's my memory from an earlier reading of the article:
Joe Scales
4/22/2018 09:33:32 pm
Henrik Williams once gave Wolter the benefit of the doubt, and in return gets defamed on a near regular basis. You want to know why Wolter will never go back to Sweden? Because defamation there is a criminal offense.
Jim
4/22/2018 11:30:30 pm
AN,, It's hard to keep track of all the rune stones, but I think the one you speak of was the one that Cortez Initialized.
Joe Scales
4/23/2018 11:06:30 am
Just so folks can read a few of Professor Henrik Williams' papers in regard to Wolter's bungling over the years and measure for themselves the Professor's methodology as compared to imbeciles like Patrick who instead choose to embrace Wolterisms and fantasy, here are a few links:
Americanegro
4/23/2018 11:15:29 am
"AN,, It's hard to keep track of all the rune stones, but I think the one you speak of was the one that Cortez Initialized.
Patrick Shekleton
4/22/2018 11:21:51 pm
I don't know anything more about the recent three-rune carving than you all.
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Jim
4/23/2018 12:05:45 am
Unless Ohman shoved the stone in the roots himself.
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Patrick Shekleton
4/23/2018 12:44:19 am
Jim,
Jim
4/23/2018 12:52:34 am
I didn't say he did, but if it was me I would have done it before my witnesses arrived home from school.
Joe Scales
4/23/2018 10:37:00 am
"Didn't he have a clipping in his possession describing this very thing ? "
Jim
4/23/2018 12:26:37 am
From the separately taken affidavits:
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Patrick Shekleton
4/23/2018 12:37:11 am
Yep, I was there with Scott in August 2017 when the Overton Stone visit took place. Then I got to read, and laugh, about all the bullshit speculation on this blog of what took place. The spalled-off rock fragments got twisted into some heinous crime of damaging a national treasure (that you all think is a hoax anyways) and a hiking trail littered with dog shit and seagull droppings along a desolate beach with a parking area became trespassing.
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Jim
4/23/2018 01:00:36 am
Good to know that if there are seagull droppings you are allowed to ignore No Trespassing signs.
Patrick Shekleton
4/23/2018 01:35:34 am
Jim,
Americanegro
4/23/2018 11:41:35 am
"It’s on private land and is posted with signs, but we were told as long as you stayed on the trail it was OK to visit the site."
Americanegro
4/23/2018 02:38:54 pm
Mass shootings are super funny, don't you think? It's even funnier this way:
Jim
4/23/2018 02:47:29 pm
Manly men do not keep to the trails !
Americanegro
4/23/2018 03:09:18 pm
"It’s on private land and is posted with signs, but we were told as long as you stayed on the trail it was OK to visit the site."
Americanegro
4/23/2018 11:14:18 am
Again, estimating a tree's diameter is not how you determine a tree's age. Again, no one counted the rings. Again, this is a problem.
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Americanegro
4/23/2018 01:22:39 pm
From Williams' paper https://websites.godaddy.com/blob/65151a46-8ee3-453c-83d3-7b1077c69c9e/downloads/1bjjra2et_37224.pdf?a8f8753c which is worth reading, cited above:
Joe Scales
4/23/2018 01:39:28 pm
Patrick will only read the note at the end and declare that it was no hoax; building upon Wolter's false dilemma.
Jim
4/23/2018 11:21:42 am
Why Patrick ? You and Wolter trespassed on posted land and then vandalized the rock upon which the images are carved.
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Jim
4/23/2018 01:04:46 pm
I would appeal to Gunn, as an impartial party.
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Ask a Mental
4/23/2018 06:39:45 pm
The need or unfulfilled desire, trumps your pitiful trespassing signs.
Jim
4/24/2018 04:02:49 pm
And, the crockpot has boiled over yet again !
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Jim
4/24/2018 05:50:21 pm
I almost forgot to mention that the Native Americans know all about this stuff but are keeping mum. Apparently they may reveal all, but only if Donald Trump apologizes to them.
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Joe Scales
4/24/2018 09:51:26 pm
When did Templars get all caught up with this astronomical alignment stuff? I thought they were just bankers...
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Jim
4/24/2018 10:52:41 pm
Apparently 100,000 years ago, you didn't think he was going to stop at King Solomon being a Grand Master, did you ?
Jim
4/25/2018 12:01:25 am
This is cool, some of it it is almost exactly quoted by wolter.
Jim
4/25/2018 12:30:56 am
And of course Wolter is going to have to duke it out with the Freemasons who say his observations are wrong !
Joe Scales
4/25/2018 09:50:32 am
So, now he's cavorting with ghost hunters. One whose demonic ex-wife made him sleep on the sofa... and that's when the holy spirit came to call.
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Fringe Guy
4/25/2018 11:14:32 am
I have some info coming that is going to really put a damper on things.......but not until someone pays me for it.......lol. He has gone well over the edge w/ the New Age angle in the last couple of years. Kind of a sign of desperation because that is a last gasp appeal to the only people that MIGHT believe him.
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Americanegro
4/25/2018 12:06:56 pm
2:20 "the movement of light boxes as they progressed through the years"
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Jim
4/25/2018 04:16:21 pm
There is so much stupid crammed in that hour, one has to wonder how so much was left over for his collaborator. Someone should alert Guinness Book of world records.
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Mike Morgan
4/29/2018 02:54:56 pm
Re: The "Jimmy Church" interview mentioned by Jim above, apparently, Sacagawea was brought up but only briefly discussed.
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Americanegro
4/29/2018 03:12:02 pm
It never gets spelled out, but our Scott's story is all about boning, boning, boning, and more boning. Because a descendant implies boning.
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Jim
4/30/2018 02:49:04 pm
Sacagawea, whom Wolter claims brought Clarke to meet her (Chief) brother and after the Chief and Clarke flashed Masonic signs and gave each a Masonic greeting, Clarke then wanted Chief Cameahwait (who really was Sacagawea's brother or cousin) to arrange a meeting with the Blackfoot Chief.
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Americanegro
4/30/2018 04:11:25 pm
That's exactly what the Catholic Church and their time-traveling Jesuits want you to believe. I note that Patrick's friend Roderick has been taking our Scott to task over his Templar nonsense. Well done, playa!
Jim
4/30/2018 06:14:52 pm
Roderick:
Americanegro
5/1/2018 01:41:39 pm
I'm sure if Roderick knew about this blog he'd thank you, I mean he'd thank Anonymous. Jeepers, Scott Wolter is an idiot.
Americanegro
4/29/2018 03:18:52 pm
Notice he specifies "Templar knight."
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Joe Scales
4/29/2018 08:56:33 pm
Yes, perhaps his next work should be direct to video with the title "Hard Science"...
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Jim
4/30/2018 02:54:32 pm
oooh,,, hopefully, can he work some whipped cream in there somehow.
Americanegro
4/30/2018 06:10:01 pm
Jimmy Church really likes to hear himself talk. It took forever to get to our Scott and his recycling of material from years ago. Minute 42 he talks all kinds of bullshit about Freemasonry.
Jim
4/30/2018 06:52:30 pm
" Now the Templars got to the Rocky Mountains in the 11th century,"
Jim
4/30/2018 06:57:14 pm
Oops, Cistercians should read Jesuits.
Joe Scales
5/1/2018 02:51:42 pm
Someone should cull some radio interview audio from Wolter and then stage reenactments with it a la Drunk History. That would make a very interesting youtube channel.
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Jim
5/1/2018 02:59:46 pm
Weeelll now, If the Templars gave the Blackfoot tribe their treasures to be hidden away in a cave vault in Montana centuries before the Blackfeet even migrated into Montana, would that mean the Jesuits passed on their time travel technology to the Blackfoot ?
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Jim
5/1/2018 03:10:04 pm
By the by, I suppose I should provide a link to the above Wolter quote:
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Americanegro
5/3/2018 03:12:36 pm
"This is the same blog where Wolter demonstrates that even after an intimate inspection with the SANDSTONE hoodoos in Writing On Stone Park, he still misidentifies them as limestone columns.
Americanegro
5/1/2018 04:56:38 pm
"What people here probably haven't thought about is the conversations Juanita and I had that didn't make the final edit and off camera. She's very intelligent and understands the context of the story we were investigating."
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Jim
5/3/2018 11:06:56 pm
Wheeee,,, Now we know where Wolter ripped off many of his nutso ideas !
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Jim
5/4/2018 11:52:32 am
https://www.amazon.com/Labyrinth-Grail-William-F-Mann/dp/0965970183/ref=la_B001K84KVQ_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1525447857&sr=1-4
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Americanegro
5/4/2018 02:48:16 pm
Wolter and Mann are known snuggle buddies.
Jim
5/4/2018 05:21:53 pm
Yes, I read that after my initial post. My point being that Wolter has adopted Mann's ideas rather than the other way around. Mann's book "The Labyrinth of the Grail" came out in 1999, a number of years years before Wolter had any books on the KRS published. This was also around the time Wolter was initially examining the stone, Mann already was expounding many of the views about the Templars, natives, Holy Bloodlines etc that Wolter would later make his own. Now Wolter is on this secret Native vault nonsense, again lifted from Mann.
Jim
5/4/2018 06:01:04 pm
Americanegro; Read the summery of Mann's 2016 book, it is almost an exact description of what Wolter has been putting forth most recently.
Americanegro
5/5/2018 01:39:38 pm
Oh no, we're not arguing here. I agree on Mann's precedence. Anything that makes Wolter look like more of an ass, I'm all for it.
Joe Scales
5/4/2018 10:07:21 am
From Anthony:
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Americanegro
5/4/2018 03:57:06 pm
If flowers will make him push off sooner I will send them. He's a mental patient, or should be. Maybe he and our Scott can go diving together.
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Jim
5/4/2018 05:30:44 pm
Nah, that comment was posted after 8 pm. Probably has to leave the computer room by 9, and is then locked in his ward.
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Jim
5/6/2018 02:04:17 pm
My latest comment to Wolter:
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Joe Scales
5/7/2018 10:07:45 am
Wolter is now demanding evidence to refute hearsay.
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Jim
5/7/2018 10:45:52 am
What a hero, he won't print my comments when I give him evidence, and then challenges me to give evidence against, as you say hearsay.
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Joe Scales
5/7/2018 12:58:40 pm
Wolter actually enjoys leading skeptics on, and then pulling the plug on them. That's why attempting to reason with him on his blog is futile. Best to make your digs with more subtlety.
Jim
5/7/2018 07:01:54 pm
I like poking the hive, it gets him stirred up, and he often makes a stupid off the cuff answer.
Joe Scales
5/8/2018 12:08:25 pm
Not certain of what was scraped or what wasn't. Been a while since I read all the particulars in this regard.
Jim
5/14/2018 10:47:25 pm
From Wolters Blog;
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Mike Morgan
5/15/2018 10:21:02 am
Even more ridiculous, a real palm to the forehead head shaker, is found in his previous comment:
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Jim
5/15/2018 01:50:38 pm
So, we will put you in the "no" column as regards to the Marlboro mans mustache signifying a Templar Chevron ?
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Joe Scales
5/21/2018 10:47:55 am
Imbecile Patrick is back at it as well Jim, now referring to you and an "arborist". Now he's claiming "science" is his savior, perhaps taking a chapter from Wolter's book of mendacity.
Jim
5/21/2018 02:29:05 pm
That's hilarious, I jokingly said I wanted to hear from an arborist since they only accept data from people outside of their area of expertise.
Jim
5/21/2018 02:56:37 pm
Should read GPR survey
Jim
5/21/2018 10:47:37 pm
Here is Patricks "science" proof.
Patrick Shekleton
5/22/2018 11:00:04 am
http://www.newportri.com/news/20180516/researcher-discusses-mysteries-surrounding-touro-park-tower
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Jim
5/22/2018 05:48:33 pm
http://minimemes.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/1399969536846.jpg
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Patrick Shekleton
5/22/2018 08:37:32 pm
:) Your comment will be posted after it is approved.
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