Here’s the kind of argument that, unfortunately, we see all too frequently online. On the “Stone Builders, Mound Builders, and the Giants of Ancient America” Facebook page, the page owner posts a daily archival news report from the nineteenth century about the discovery of the bones of “giants.” These reports have several sources, ranging from misidentified mastodon and mammoth bones to outright hoaxes; nevertheless, many believers in alternative history hold that these newspaper accounts, for which there is no extant physical evidence, are prima facie proof that giants once wandered ancient America.
Here’s the conspiracy theory posted earlier today:
Numerous reports clearly point right to the Smithsonian receiving giant remains and indicate their scientists were involved in the excavations but the skeletal material all seems to have gone missing. If all this evidence was "normal sized" then where are the remains to prove this? Obviously, removing the remains, creating a law to force repatriation of all of this material (NAGPRA) and concocting a fairy tale that somehow all this evidence was in error and you have the current state of affairs. A state where a wall of arrogance and dissimissiveness [sic] has been built to make it virtually impossible for professionals to objectively look at the evidence.
Notice the backward logic from beginning to end. The “reports”—from old newspapers—are assumed true, so the fact that no such remains exist (or ever existed) at the Smithsonian is now proof of a cover-up. The claim that the Smithsonian had the skeletons of giants, incidentally, does not appear in the literature of the nineteenth century, when these giant bones were allegedly consigned to the museum; presumably, the Biblical literalists of the day would have made as much of them as they did of the Cardiff Giant, and yet it was not so. In fact, as early as 1865 the Smithsonian published a document by Ducrotay de Blainville, following Cuvier, attributing “giant” humanoid bones to mastodons. Surely in the period prior to the explosion of the Mound Builder myth, when the existence of giants was taken for granted, there should be some record in the Smithsonian materials of these alleged bones. I find it interesting that I can track down no claim of missing giant bones from the Smithsonian until the rise of the modern creationist and alternative history movements in the middle twentieth century, when suddenly Victorian yellow journalism became proof of biblical truths.
David Childress promoted the idea in his claims about the alleged Egyptian-Tibetan tomb in the Grand Canyon, and Ross Hamilton picked up the thread with the “Holocaust of Giants: The Great Smithsonian Cover-Up” article in 2001; he quotes Vine Deloria, who I suppose is probably right in relating the idea to “the ending of the Indiana Jones movie—a great warehouse where the real secrets of earth history are buried.” He, though, took the idea seriously because he was notorious for accepting pseudoscience as long as it supported his political views. I’d guess that Raiders of the Lost Ark had a good deal of influence on how alternative types—who liken themselves to Indiana Jones—perceive museums. Childress wrote an article in 1993 (World Explorer vol. 1, no. 3) called “Smithsoniangate” in which he explicitly cited Raiders of the Lost Ark as a touchstone for understanding the Smithsonian “cover-up.” He accused John Wesley Powell of starting the cover-up in 1881 to quash evidence of a lost white Mound Builder culture. So far as I know, this is the first reference I can find to the imaginary cover-up, though there may be earlier versions I do not know about.
The second sentence is worse, inverting the burden of proof. The author wants bones of normal size to prove they are not the bones of giants; yet, if these finds were hoaxes (as most were), there would be no bones whatsoever. The absence of normal sized bones is not proof of the reality of gigantic ones. So where are the bones? One of the most ridiculous tropes of the era was the case of the disintegrating bones. In 1800, for example, a landowner named Aaron Wright (later famous for contributing evidence challenging the authenticity of the Book of Mormon) claimed to have pulled the skull of a giant from a mound in New Salem, Ohio, so large it was twice the size of a normal human. He allegedly wore the skull as a mask, covering his whole face. Then, when others came to see it, suddenly it crumbled into dust. Just to top it all off, when Caleb Atwater showed up in 1820 to study the site, he was told the bones had been abnormally small and belonged to midgets! This was not an isolated event.
The next claim suggests that the 1990 Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act—which, incidentally, does not apply to private land or state-owned land, only federal lands—is a conspiracy to hide the bones of giants. Since all of the bones that are repatriated are documented, where exactly is this hiding the giant bones? Are all the Native Americans in on it, too, choosing to bury giants’ bones as Native American and willfully ignoring ten-foot-long femurs? I imagine a latter-day Procrustes chopping up the bones to fit normal-sized burial plots while rubbing hands together and cackling about pulling one over on the biblical literalists.
The Other J.
7/28/2013 10:30:41 am
"Just to top it all off, when Caleb Atwater showed up in 1820 to study the site, he was told the bones had been abnormally small and belonged to midgets!"
7/28/2013 10:41:04 am
Ha ha. Atwater was told that there were no giant skull, only a dwarf skull.
7/28/2013 04:08:21 pm
A clear case of skullduggery.
11/11/2014 02:36:47 pm
what is science affraid of by telling the truth about man kind, and the truth when they were really here, like when the continents were still togeather
11/12/2014 01:19:29 am
"Science" isn't afraid of "The Truth."
6/25/2016 12:28:31 pm
Because it might lead to the bible and some other books are right and they as scientist are wrong its a pride thing and also a big money thing
6/25/2016 12:32:02 pm
Evidently Someone hasn't meat some Archaeologist. writing thier books. there is money involved and when you buck money you buck mainstream and the whole global warming skeem and Giant thing.
Al (Alfonso) Barrs
8/15/2018 06:19:00 pm
We have seen many archeologists who have been assaulted and forced out of the field by archeologists who are followers of the Darwinian religious theory of species evolution... So, why wouldn't Smithsonian archeologists hide evidence that contradicts their own Darwinian religious theory of species evolution?
1/30/2018 12:56:43 pm
5/24/2018 12:59:24 pm
Matthew Miller and Skull,
9/30/2018 12:17:54 am
Jason and Skull, exactly what evidence do either of you have to support your claims? I’ve studied Archeology in college, and I’ never had a professor or textbook discuss the discovery of any archeological evidence that there has ever been a race of giant humans, nor have I ever been taught how to cover up such a find. As for the similarities between the Hebrew Bible and the stories from Mesopotamia, Sumeria, Akkadia, etc is because those ancient cultures were living next door to the areas the Ancient Hebrews were living in. It’s also important to note that the ancient cuneiform stories predate the Hebrew Bible by centuries, then there’s the important notation in Genesis that the founder/patriarch of Judaism, Abraham/Ibrahim, as well as Noah, was from the Ancient Sumerian city of Ur. On top of that, there’s been extremely little archeological evidence found that supports the overwhelming majority of stories written in either the Hebrew or Christian Bible, there have been some relatively small finds, such as the Mesopotamian projectile points discovered in the Temple Mount Sifting Project, but not much else that can be confirmed to support pretty much any other specific stories in the Bible.
Harry J Verner
6/9/2019 08:05:37 pm
For you to try & deny giants is like you trying to tell me that elephants are not real expecting me to never go to a zoo [seriously]. We have people to this day living that would be considered giants. Lets not forget the FACT that many come from asia with average size parents. Im sure with all of your degrees you need me to explain this to you. It means that it must have been a recessive gene. Remember yao ming (could be wrong on spelling) came from asia to US to play basketball? Extremely tall. Believe he was around 7'. Can not be giganticism! He was a ball player meaning he was coordinated not experiencing the problems that occur with giganticism. Im no bible thumper. I just no sh!t gets covered up. The only proof needed for this is howard Johnson's magnetic MOTORS (yes with an S- meaning multiple). This was invented in 1981. A motor with no fuel. No one should have an electric bill. We should have generators @ home. If its not enough you buy a second.
7/28/2013 10:48:23 pm
Probably warehouse 13 agents paid a visit to the smithsonian. Those crafty bastards always stealing all the magic artifacts...
7/29/2013 12:40:18 am
The Smithsonian leaves themselves open to such accusations by their own acts. They used to hold that Langley was the first man to fly a plane, but they made a deal with the Wright family to never suggest that anyone but the Wrights were first in order to have their artifacts on display. Now they are being accused of suppressing other information about another claimant.
you must understand European culture, lies , stealing, corruption in their DNA, no matter where you look ( religion, history, politics, food, medicine, culture, writings). Satan's hand is there. The truth shall set you free, but don't expect him to give it, not in his nature. People of color all over the world see it, discoloring idols, land theft, lies, book burnings, mind control, alien being, not human as you think.
6/24/2016 11:40:53 pm
You're a freaking total idiot! "Satan"?! You have got to be kidding me! Please leave this discussion to the smart people you brainwashed religious cretin!
9/30/2018 12:02:47 am
That’s not entirely accurate. Here’s the link to the National Air and Space Museum’s discussion regarding Orville Wright and the Wright Flyer. https://airandspace.si.edu/exhibitions/wright-brothers/online/icon/feud.cfm
7/29/2013 05:15:30 pm
Actually NAGPRA applies to any agency or repository receiving federal funds, so there's your vast conspiracy...of course there's still all that consultation and documentation getting in the way...hmmmm
7/29/2013 06:58:21 pm
Here's one verifiable account of the Smithsonian "losing" giant remains.
7/29/2013 08:30:19 pm
It's sad that you need to state that "I'm no Christian" just to be taken seriously on this site. Not judging, just wanted to point that out.
7/30/2013 02:58:08 am
A 6'6" man generally has a cranial capacity of around 1700cc.
7/29/2013 11:29:12 pm
If 6.5 feet is a "giant," that makes my grandfather, at 6'6", Goliath. While unusual for their era, these sizes are not unheard of for human beings and are therefore neither shocking nor supernatural.
7/30/2013 02:25:32 am
A 6'6" man generally has a cranial capacity of around 1700cc. The four skulls sitting at the Humboldt museum all have capacities over 1900cc (even the two females). The largest (male) has a capacity of 2500cc. Based on the formula, that corresponds to a height of around 7'8" tall.
7/30/2013 02:59:18 am
A 6'6" man generally has a cranial capacity of around 1700cc.
7/30/2013 11:50:41 am
Here's what the Humboldt Museum in Winnemucca, NV. has to say about the Lovelock Collection:
9/30/2018 12:28:56 am
Eric Johns, I don’t know where you got the information that Homo sapiens have a 1700cc cranial capacity, but it’s astronomically incorrect. The average cranial capacity of modern H. sapiens is approximately 1350cc. The average cranial capacity of our most recent human ancestor, Homo neanderthalensis, was approximately 1500cc. If any museum had a single human skull in their collection that was a 1700cc or larger capacity, they’d be known around the world for possessing it. Yet you claim that the Humboldt Museum in Winnemucca has several. The funny thing is, the Humboldt Museum doesn’t mention this in any way, shape, or form.
7/30/2013 12:58:31 pm
Hey Eric Johns,
7/30/2013 01:43:39 pm
"We have well over 1,000 accounts of purported large skeletal finds from press clippings, historical diaries, county histories, science papers, archaeological bulletins from the 1700's to the 1980's".
7/30/2013 02:12:20 pm
7/30/2013 02:12:35 pm
7/30/2013 02:12:55 pm
7/30/2013 02:45:06 pm
7/30/2013 04:20:44 pm
7/31/2013 01:52:41 am
7/31/2013 01:52:47 am
7/31/2013 09:12:03 am
8/14/2013 02:28:34 am
So how many skulls do you have?
9/30/2018 12:43:13 am
There is absolutely zero evidence whatsoever to support your claims, or the claims people have made to you, regarding any museums having human remains from a race of giants. If any museum had a single skull of the size you report in their collection, they’d be known around the world for it, yet there are zero museums claiming to possess such a skull, let alone the other artifacts you listed, that can be shown to be authentic, with the notable exceptions of individuals known to have had the medical condition known as gigantism. No Anthropologist, Archeologist, or medical professionals have been able to authenticate any of your claimed sets of human remains. Having studied Archeology for several years, and earned good grades from most of my college Archeology classes, I have never once had a professor or textbook make any claims regarding archeological evidence of a race of giant humans, nor have I ever encountered a lesson plan that included how to cover up any verifiable archeological finds.
6/9/2019 08:28:55 pm
You said if they found skulls with that massive cranial space everyone would have heard about it. Well what about the puruvian skulls with massive cranial space? Lets mention that they were missing the suture of normal humans. They had red hair, were of normal size though. Lets not forgot they were way weirder then giants. They were coneheads. Not the fake kind/head binding. They were sequenced. Part of their DNA was from around russia & the rest they said it didn't look human. Lots of weird stuff out there that they either hide or dont make a big enough deal out of. They're hiding something & it must be real important to them. Obviously it would be important to us to or they wouldn't or attempt to hide it.
7/30/2013 01:28:01 pm
That's interesting about the 2500 cc skull size. The Humboldt museum says the skulls they have are "robust" but within the normal parameters of size. Just like a size 22 sandal is robust next to a size 10 1/2 penny loafer. LoL...
5/24/2018 01:14:23 pm
Here is the reason: The Genesis account of giants being on the Earth would hold validity and certain elite people don't want that, even though everyone knows it's true. They just don't want to admit it. They would have to change the way they think and live because if the giants existed, then other things mentioned in the Bible would have existed also ;) Uh oh!
9/30/2018 12:53:35 am
I have never heard or read any credible and verified documentation of any human skeletal remains or human skull that has ever had such physical measurements. There have been absolutely ZERO human skulls with a 2500cc cranial capacity. I have never seen any credible reports in any of my collection of Archeology or Anthropology textbooks over the past 20 years, nor have I ever heard reports of any professional archeologists or anthropologists studying any such human remains. What credible evidence do you have that would authenticate your claims?
6/9/2019 08:46:49 pm
Lets not forget what these natives said about sky gods. What the bible & other ancient texts say about giants & nephilim. Maybe they just wanted religion @ the back of our minds. Back when most of these were found people were more religious & would have used this for that cause. Proof of the bible. Who knows why they suppressed it but it was done. I doubt all those papers were lieing. The chances of all those papers lieing are not real. So with or without that physical evidence it looks more to be true. The dogone told us they came from sirius B long before we even knew it was there. There are plenty of cases where a people we thought were primitive told us information we laughed @ only to later find part of it definitely true
7/30/2013 02:04:38 pm
No way man, you must be a wacko conspiracy theorist. Don't you know that the Smithsonian would never lie? Or that there hasn't been a deep-seated Darwinian bias for decades or gatekeepers like Colavito? Shame shame.
7/30/2013 02:07:40 pm
Darwinian bias? How dare scientists use science in their work!
7/31/2013 02:08:46 am
To Jason below:
7/31/2013 02:13:56 am
I'm not a scientist and never claimed to be one. Above, you wrote that there had been "a deep-seated Darwinian bias for decades." Since I have not been writing a blog for decades, I presumed--and I can't imagine this is wrong--that you were referring to actual scientists who do the hard work of archaeology, paleontology, biology, etc. Those were the "scientists" I referenced in the preceding comment.
7/31/2013 02:24:36 am
7/31/2013 02:36:25 am
Good sweet baby Jeebus,
7/31/2013 02:49:54 am
"Fucking idiots".We are now entering the realm of scientific verbosity..
7/31/2013 02:53:45 am
the difference between a Ganlea megacanina & a Kenyanthropus....
7/6/2014 11:40:22 pm
Brett, you claim you have a Ph.D.? Really? How come your online biography doesn't say anything about your Ph.D.?
6/9/2019 08:50:38 pm
If they are hiding it why would it be in a text book? Are you that dense? The only people that would know would be the people that must know & no others. Its plain & simple.
11/29/2013 11:38:12 pm
The cover-up and alleged suppression of archaeological evidence
5/23/2014 10:27:48 am
Thank you very much for the useful lead Eric. This is the most credible lead I've found on the subject. For a long time I dismissed giant talk as the fables of religious loonies. It is a shame that people like Tara can't contribute anything useful like you did. I think I make make that trip!
10/7/2014 12:59:35 pm
Jason Covalito is just another annoying and extremely misinformed Internet idiot commenting on things he knows nothing about. Nobody cares about these stupid low- intelligence Bloggers.....
9/30/2018 12:20:24 am
Interestingly the Humboldt Museum in Winnemucca doesn’t make a single mention of these supposed giant skulls.
7/30/2013 03:48:26 am
This is up there among stupid articles. The author uses the same process as those in the News reports. In this case, no official confirmation is taken as proof of non-existence. Did giants exist? Almost certainly. In a world that has seen people taller than 8' and has come across a species of homo that averages 3' the anomaly would be if there hadn't been giants. Does that mean that the newspaper reports are correct?
7/30/2013 03:51:07 am
So I take it that you failed to notice that this isn't an article about giants (or the lack thereof) but rather about the origins of the conspiracy theory of a Smithsonian cover-up?
7/31/2013 04:09:09 am
Yours is an article indirectly related to giants, though. Can you deny that?
7/31/2013 04:49:19 am
Of course it is, but whether the giants really existed is not particularly to the origins of a cover-up theme.
11/29/2013 11:51:21 pm
Jason I am not fooled by your pseudo academic double talk , trying to dismiss what you won`t even consider with buzz phrases as conspiracy theory’s. The state run media love to use the same tactic . The artificial boundary of science and manifest destiny . The collusion of power by science , government , commerce and religion .
12/4/2013 03:54:33 am
7/30/2013 04:45:11 am
"...they aren't genuine skeptics but staunch believers in the status-quo.."
Sick of reading Tara's BS
9/13/2013 02:16:39 pm
pretentious "B" with a capital "C" you are Tara Jordan.
7/30/2013 12:47:08 pm
You're right. Unsupported claims, government cover-ups, and dark conspiracies by nefarious academics determined to keep the real truth from the common man make much more sense.
7/30/2013 03:11:45 pm
There is undeniable paleoanthropological evidence for the existence of the deity known as Xenu
7/30/2013 06:25:28 am
I visited http://humboldtmuseum.org. It might be the wrong Humbold Museum ( I live in England and do not have the resources to travel to Nevada) or the skulls might be view by appointment only, because; unfortunately, there is no mention of them on the site, not even of things like them. Dinosaurs and Arts and Crafts but no giant skulls. Should I be looking for a different Humbold Museum?
7/31/2013 01:11:15 am
Joan, you had the correct museum. It's just a little place, a small local historical society museum.
9/13/2013 02:21:42 pm
You are the smartest, most correct and accurate contributor of information on this blog- that's for sure- :) Thank you Mr. Eric Johns
7/30/2013 02:41:02 pm
There is no correct way to respond to this claim of giants or no giants without any supporting evidence. However I attended university with a friend of the Kiowa tribe that was 6'8" tall. He said the elders of the tribe spoke of their tribe being giants until the early to middle of the 1900s. It was not uncommon for even the women to reach 7 feet tall. It was unknown why most of them today are not as tall but there are still some very tall and make good basketball players. So there could have been some tall people that looked like giants to short people. We all know short people got no body.
7/30/2013 02:41:41 pm
Well, I can't respond and Reply directly to J.C's post above it seems, this message board doesn't enable such functionality (shocking) so I'll do it here:
7/30/2013 02:46:41 pm
There is no message board conspiracy. The Weebly platform only allows two levels of response. It's the same for every poster, not just replies to me.
7/31/2013 04:12:59 am
"There is no "evolution vs. creationism" argument; that's a creationist Trojan horse. "
7/30/2013 03:08:59 pm
What is "deep-seated Darwinian bias"?.In a world where ignorance is bliss,& folly is wisdom, Social Darwinism rules.
7/31/2013 04:15:20 am
Just keep clinging to your dogma and riding your magical unicorn off into the sunset, sweetie. Or whatever it was that you posted above. K thx bye!
9/13/2013 02:10:30 pm
your selfish pride is very unbecoming of you and the more you speak the less people take you seriously and also the more you make yourself out to be a real giant............ fool that is, ha ha ha a giant fool! So at least thanks to you now we do have some real bona fide evidence that giants do exist, such as yourself Ms. Tara Jordan because you are undoubtedly a GIANT of the FOOL variety of course. Thanks for your contribution of some good hard physical evidence.
10/7/2014 01:08:52 pm
Promptly REMOVE your head from you stinky fecal encrusted butt hole, woman....
10/7/2014 01:20:47 pm
YOU are an incredibly NAIVE and very misinformed woman. Gate- keeping, misconduct, suppression and ALL TYPES of shenanigans go on OFTEN in among scientis. They happen even in the BEST medical journals such as JAMA. In fact, it is a BIG problem. This is well known, you fool.
7/30/2013 05:22:59 pm
You've been harsh with your criticism and adamant in believing there is a conspiracy/cover-up here. If I may play Devil's advocate, can you provide evidence that proves this alleged cover-up?
7/31/2013 12:54:48 am
7/31/2013 01:07:40 am
7/31/2013 01:07:57 am
7/31/2013 04:06:15 am
Sure, Gary. Whatever you say. Just cling to your evolutionary dogma. There is no God. There are numerous examples of macro-evolution throughout the "evolutionary record". Creationists and scientists with excellent credentials who espouse such theories are Bible believing wackos. Right. Got it.
7/31/2013 05:49:18 am
Wow, Stanton, that was a pretty hostile response. I don't know what your problem is but it's obvious that you did not try what I suggested. You say you've done your homework but you have not. You just read a list of cherry picked quotes somewhere. I have seen those things and I have seen the same quotes in context that show the dishonesty of those who put those partial quotes together to begin with.
8/1/2013 06:45:05 am
8/1/2013 01:47:12 pm
OkieDokie, it's not just you. There are people who want to believe that America was to be God's gift to northern Europeans.
8/1/2013 07:38:05 am
It's nineteenth and early twentieth century Social Darwinism that affects the belief in the Tall Ones, not Darwinism. Darwinism has been so thoroughly cleaned up since the late nineteenth century that it's respectable enough to argue with now. What we're mainly dealing with when we balk at the lack of skeletal evidence is the fact that those lovely bones were not a renewable archaeological resource, and eventually went the way of the passenger pigeon and dodo bird due to their ever-increasing scarcity. The real crux of the problem is that mankind tends to dig up burial sites, burn libraries and destroy, almost passionately, the evidences of prehistory one sepulcher at a time! Where is the mausoleum of Alexander now?
8/5/2013 02:10:48 am
8/5/2013 11:19:58 am
You're so smart Matthew.
8/5/2013 08:48:34 pm
8/11/2013 07:12:59 am
Dr. Hamilton i think said it best and most succinctly.....our history is not one of reverence for the past...its one of disdain...there are too many examples of this in the destruction of what precious few remains of the 'evidence' of our past, for it to be ignored. Just look at the widespread destruction and looting that took place in Iraq as the result of the invasion there.
8/11/2013 07:24:01 am
Evolution does not mean "improvement" in a teleological sense. It only means change. One can evolve into a more complex organism, or a simpler one.
8/11/2013 10:46:30 am
Dirk, we are a part of nature and it's not possible to take us out of it so I don't know what you mean by your last statement.
9/13/2013 01:55:48 pm
I live very close to Lovelock, NV and I've talked to several witnesses, locals, scientists, archaeologists, doctors, and what have you- and I have even seen some of the remains that were taken to the University of Nevada to be studied. I have visited the cave(s) out there on several occasions too and so I only really have one thing to say about this: THERE WERE IN FACT GIANT PEOPLE WITH RED HAIR, NOT JUST SOME RARE GENETIC ANOMALY BUT AN ENTIRE RACE OF THESE PEOPLE.
5/6/2014 11:18:34 pm
Kimberly, here are some earnest points of advice as to how your theories might benefit from a change in tact:
5/7/2014 03:57:15 am
what makes you so sure I didn't huh? I have pictures and in fact I even have a giant atlatl spearhead I found as well, here's the thing though "Okie Dokie", I don't care what you think of me or anything else in life or the world so you wasted your time to write some big long rant about why you are so much more superior than myself in your thinking. :
5/7/2014 04:30:47 pm
Maybe it was the rum and I am at fault, but I didn't intend to come across as demeaning, judgmental, or superior - quite the opposite actually, with an admitted flavor of frustration. Critiquing how you present your case/evidence is not an attack on you, and I don't understand why you immediately react so defensively, as if it were. How did I offend you, or judge you personally? In fact, I called you smart, brilliant, with admirable goals, and encouraged you to pursue learning and discovery. This is perhaps what I meant about limiting the ego, and not furthering a personal perception instead of cogent arguments and evidence to be scrutinized under peer review. I believe using wheels is superior to dragging heavy objects, but don't feel myself superior to the person who chooses the latter method, if that helps to clarify. Now I am guilty of going off-topic here, and I'd prefer to just let this rest. I don't want you to feel offended, so sorry for that, I guess. I just don't see how one could take offense.
10/7/2014 01:29:17 pm
Seriously, GO F U C K yourself! YOU have NO EXPERI3ENCE and did NOT travel to Georgia AND EXPERIENCE SEEING THESE BONES. The BONES ARE REAL. The scientist expert in Great Britain CONFIRMED they are human. Giants 9 feet tall DEFINITELY EXISTED. The only question is are they different from us or just suffered from pituitary disorder.STOP with the science talk. PEOPLE invented those cutesy phrases. nature is nature. You talking out your a s s about science does NOT change for a second these Giants' existence...
10/7/2014 01:24:36 pm
EXACTLY. These Internet weirdo Bloggers are social misfits, have low levels of intelligence and some sort of disorder where they harbor extreme skepticism about EVERYTHING that paralyzes them and their though processes to the point where they cannot function in life. They are ARM CHAIR QUARTERBACKS WITHOUT AN OUNCE of actual experience. These dorks are NOT experts at all.
11/3/2013 01:51:14 am
The cover up exists and continues to this very day. I have my ideas as to "why" but the fact that it exists has absolutely nothing to do with why it exists.
11/5/2013 01:12:10 am
YOU CAN'T FOOL ME
11/5/2013 11:03:13 am
THERE IS EVIDENCE AND LOT'S OF IT TOO HERE IN NEVADA, THEY HAVE BONES AND SKULLS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF NEVADA AS WELL AS A GIGANTIC PESTLE AND MORTAR WAY TOO BIG FOR ANY NORMAL SIZED HUMAN TO USE AT THE NEVADA MUSEUM, THERE IS ALSO TONS MORE EVIDENCE IN THE TOWN OF LOVELOCK AS WELL AS WITH THE PAIUTE INDIANS- SO PLEASE STOP BEING SO IGNORANT - TAKE THE TIME TO DO SOME RESEARCH FOR YOURSELF BEFORE TELLING PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE WRONG WHY DON'T YA?!
11/5/2013 11:16:30 am
11/7/2013 04:04:20 am
First, lay off the caffeine, the caps lock key and the conspiracy materials. This will go a long way to help you sound less like a rabies victim with a keyboard.
12/4/2013 03:48:42 am
If evidence is so plentiful, post some links to information about it.
10/7/2014 01:05:23 pm
Jason is a total idiot. These Bloggers are social misfits paralyzed by an extreme skepticism. They are defective in the head, have low - intelligence and cannot function in life.
6/9/2019 09:40:02 pm
Matthew i have to ask this because so many people on here have said multiple times that they themselves have seen the evidence. You ignore that & say lack of proof does not prove a cover-up. They are telling you there is proof. ARE YOU S T U P I D? They are saying theyve seen the evidence. So to you its fake because you haven't seen it. You sound like one of the physicists that try to say a cop>1 doesn't exist. They dont say it the just mix the words up so it sounds good. The device is sitting there in front of them working but theyre saying how it couldn't while it is plane as day that it is.
12/5/2013 03:23:47 pm
Some of the very large skeletons unearthed here in the Ohio Valley were carefully recorded by William Webb and Charles Snow out of the University of Kentucky, and Donald Dragoo out of the Carnegie in Pittsburgh in the mid 20th century. Prior to that, there is ample testimony from lights like Moorehead, Norris, Putnam, and others who worked with Norris for the Smithsonian. This includes Cyrus Thomas who took much of the responsibility for the numerous entries on very tall skeletal remains in the Smithsonian Annual reports. For specific references to all these, several books may be directly from the Ancient American Bookstore online. I recommend A Tradition of Giants and The Holocaust of Giants in their book forms, not the earlier versions that appeared as papers or articles at the turn of this century. One of the problems with the disappearance of skeletal and artifact remains was with Ales Hrdlicka (pronounced herd-lich-ka), early 20th century head of physical anthropology at the Smithsonian. His story, including that of the influence of Eugenics at the National Museum, is documented thoroughly in A Tradition of Giants. A word of advice: don't reply to this notation unless you have read the books and checked out the sources first. Thanks ahead of time.
12/6/2013 08:53:08 am
Fascinating claims. Do you have any references or resources to back them up?
12/6/2013 03:43:32 pm
MM-so you actually purchased the book(s)? How many pages are in each?
12/6/2013 08:53:16 am
Fascinating claims. Do you have any references or resources to back them up?
MM-I see you have ordered the book and since the number of pages is listed with the description, it would be a moot point to repeat it. You'll find the proper and specific references and others as noted above in the bibliography. Your ordering the book is more than appreciated, and I commend your making the effort in view of some of the offhanded comments I've had the pains of reading in this blog thread. I do not believe in the Nephalim and make no specific reference to biblical giants or the red haired giants. All that nonsense has hindered our case from early on. All the research is on the up and up. We consulted with and have had contributions from native leaders, including former Iroquois chief Jake Swamp, and of course Vine Deloria. Vine was a close friend, and after a man of Vine's status in the Native community has passed away, he can no longer defend himself as he certainly would have had he read the opening statement to this thread. I will unsubscribe now--thanks for putting up with the rant.
2/9/2014 10:24:13 am
I can see from reading these comments that Tara has an extremely biased position and argues purely from emotion. Why assume there is ''not a single shred of evidence'' purely on the grounds that you ''don't see any reason why there would be a cover up''?Do you SERIOUSLY have the nerve to say nobody is allowed to speak on this matter if they aren't an actual archaeologist? What kind of pseudo intellectual, egocentric dribble is that?
2/15/2014 03:57:42 am
Some very interesting conversations in this thread, and some less so.
2/15/2014 04:14:43 am
Have you read many nineteenth century newspapers? There's no conspiracy; the papers published all manner of ridiculous and hoax material, and not just about archaeology. You have to take the stories in the context of the times, when "facts" were second to storytelling, and wild claims sold papers.
5/6/2014 10:47:42 pm
Do you also believe in intelligent life on mars, based on the 19th and early 20th century newspaper reports on the supposed canals and structures supposedly on the martian surface? Newspaper/tabloid reports do not a science make.
10/7/2014 01:34:16 pm
You seriously have no idea how F U C K I N G STUPID you sound.... You're a typical arm chair quarterback.
4/4/2014 03:02:46 pm
Your argument that nineteenth century journalism had a monopoly on hyperbole is without merit. Plenty of examples abound in the current mainstream.
10/17/2014 05:48:49 am
The comments on this article are unbelievably entertaining. They also speak volumes about the those posting them.
3/25/2015 04:16:31 am
The National Geographic website says that the tallest dug ancient skeleton was 6'11". They also said that that was incredibly tall and that that person probably had a glandular problem. That would be almost 7 ft. It would also be one skeleton. I do not think that is what would be called a giant. The hoaxers are saying that there are many between the sizes 9 ft and 30 ft. That is unreasonable and unproven. Everyone knows there have been people up to 8'11" in modern times, but that hasn't been found in digs. I know you bible beaters want to prove there was a Goliath and a race of giants, but you really should wait for some evidence. It will show up eventually if it is true. We may find a unicorn too. Maybe a ufo. Just have to wait. This is not it.
5/28/2015 10:54:01 am
This issue started officially in the early years of the last century when strange mummies were found in the Grand Canyon. A researcher called Kincaid found something that Smithsonian Institute hid forever.
7/21/2015 04:58:13 am
Anyone with half a brain can see that Jason doesn't actually do any real digging. Anyone with access to Google can search "ooparts" and see that SCIENTISTS have been complaining for years about evidence being destroyed because it doesn't fit the evolutionary narrative.
8/2/2015 09:46:46 am
It is clear that discoveries of giants' bones were sent to The Smithsonian for examination, then "lost". If I were younger and in better health, I would seek a Writ of Mandamus from a Federal Judge to force the Smithsonian to cough up the bones of giants forthwith. This charade has to stop and force the evolutionary nuts to allow the truth to be revealed. Even though the second law of thermodynamics squashes evolutionary theory, and the Giants confirm Genesis 6:3+, these dishonest "scientists" will go to any length to hide the truth from the public, and someone needs to take the Smithsonian to U.S. District Court and force them to reveal the bones to the public - otherwise why is theSmithsonian still called a "museum"?
9/16/2015 02:45:35 pm
If scientists (not atheists)don't have a problem with the huge primate gigantapithicus from Asia why would they have problems with large primates from america?
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