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Islamic Extremist Calls for Destruction of Sphinx, Pyramids; RT Hires Conspiracy Theorists

3/13/2015

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A Kuwaiti preacher has called on Muslims to destroy the Sphinx and pyramids of Egypt in the name of Allah, and the militant Islamist group Islamic State agreed, according to news accounts published this week. Echoing an Egyptian cleric’s demand for the monuments’ destruction in 2012, Ibrahim Al Kandari, an Islamist cleric, said that the Muslim invaders who conquered Egypt from the Byzantine Empire erred in leaving the ancient sites undamaged.

“The fact that early Muslims who were among prophet Mohammed’s followers did not destroy the pharaohs’ monuments upon entering the Egyptian soil, does not mean that we shouldn't do it now,” Al Kandari said.
Islamic State’s leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, declared the destruction of the Sphinx and pyramids to be a “religious duty” for Muslims.

Muslim extremists have tried to destroy the Sphinx in the name of eradicating idol worship in the past. The historian Al-Maqrizi reported that in the fourteenth century Muhammad Sa’im al-Dahr, a Sufi, damaged the Sphinx after learning some locals worshipped it:
In our time, a figure named Sheikh Muhammad Sa’im al-Dahr, one of the Sufis of the convent of Dervishes founded by Sa’id al-Su’ada, set off in 780 (1378-1379 CE) to combat and destroy superstitions. He went to the pyramids and mutilated the face of Abu al-Hul (i.e., the Sphinx), which has remained in that state down to the present. (my trans.)
According to medieval Arab historians, the Sabaeans made pilgrimages to the pyramids and the Sphinx to pay homage to Hermes Trismegistus and Seth.

Maqrizi also reports that under pressure from Islamic extremists Saladin’s son Al-Aziz Uthman, who reigned in Egypt, attempted to dismantle the pyramid of Menkaure but gave up for lack of manpower and money:
King Al-Aziz Uthman ibn Salah al-Din Yusuf ibn Ayyub, who reigned after his father, was pushed by ignorant people of his court to destroy the pyramids. He began with the small red pyramid and sent quarrymen and stonemasons, led by some emirs of the kingdom and the great empire, ordering them to destroy it. They pitched their tents near the pyramid, gathered laborers and workers, and did not spare any expense. They remained there about eight months with their people and their horses, destroying every day one or two stones with infinite pains and after strenuous efforts. Men posted above raised each stone with levers, and others pulled from below by means of ropes and cables. The falling of each stone made a terrible noise that could be heard from afar; the mountains quaked and the earth trembled. The stone sank into the sand, and new efforts were needed to lift it by means of levers placed below by digging a path through which they made the drive. Thus, they broke the stone into heaps, and each piece was carried away on carts and thrown at the foot of the nearby mountain. And after lengthy efforts and enormous expense, exhausted by fatigue, they were forced to abandon the work without being able to accomplish it. All they managed to do was to deface the pyramid and give proof of their impotence and the futility of their efforts. This was in 593 [1196-1197 CE]. Today, if you look at the heap of stones torn from the pyramid, you would think it was completely destroyed, but if we look at the pyramid itself, you would be convinced that the men did nothing at all for they removed only a small part of the side, which is now a mass of fallen stones. A fellow who witnessed the tragic attempt to demolish every stone asked the head of the workers: “If the sultan gave you a thousand dinars to put one of these stones back in place as it was, could you do it?” “No, by God,” replied the other, “it would be impossible, even if he doubled the amount.” (my trans.)
Karakush, a eunuch who ruled Egypt for Saladin two decades earlier, had destroyed several small pyramids for the more prosaic purpose of building fortifications in Cairo.

Meanwhile, if that weren’t bad enough, the Russian government has decided that there just isn’t enough paranoia and conspiracy theorizing on television. RT, the propaganda network funded by the Russian government and seen around the world, has hired the sons of noted conspiracy-mongers Oliver Stone and Jesse Ventura (of TruTV’s Conspiracy Theory) to present a conspiracy theory program in the guise of news. Sean Stone and Tyrel Ventura, of the web show Buzzsaw, will be bringing their conspiracy theory program to RT, covering such pressing issues as the latest maneuvers of the Illuminati and, if last month’s online Buzzsaw is indicative, whether a lost Ice Age civilization possessed super-technology that built the pyramids. The new show will be called Watching the Hawks and will focus more on the political and military conspiracies that RT is famous for promoting, according to a press release.

Here’s a clip from Buzzsaw’s interview with John Anthony West, the man who has been pushing an occultist line about pre-Ice Age pyramids since the 1980s, and occultism in general since the 1960s. In this interview, West endorses Martin Bernal’s Black Athena, particularly the idea that all of Western civilization can be traced back to ancient Egypt. He also argues that history as we know it is racist Victorian propaganda, which I guess is a neat way of sidestepping the fact that many fringe views of the antiquity of Egypt were promoted by a series of racists, including the Victorians.
Now here’s West discussing ancient astronauts on the same program, tying his claims to R. A. Schwaller de Lubitz, the occultist whose work West uses as the basis for his own. Note that in arguing for an occult view of Egypt over Zecharia Sitchin’s ancient astronaut view, he mistakenly calls Mike Heiser “George Heiser.” West takes Sitchin to task for having an “agenda,” and he praises Heiser for not having an agenda. He says he can “rest in peace” because Heiser has thoroughly discredited Sitchin, which he seems to feel is a prerequisite for accepting his own occult/Atlantean views of ancient history:
Just for anyone who Googles my name: In college I briefly worked for a student magazine named Buzzsaw Haircut, now called Buzzsaw magazine, but it is of no relation.
28 Comments
Bob Jase
3/13/2015 09:08:56 am

Considering how much must have been lost thanks to thousands of years of combined religious zealotry this is no surprise.

Hypatia anyone?

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Hypatia
3/13/2015 02:28:14 pm

Hear, O Here!

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Josef Karpinovic
3/13/2015 09:18:43 am

It figures. Oliver Stone is working on some kind of excruciatingly stupid documentary which will focus on the notion that Ukraine's 2013 revolution was entirely engineered by Uncle Sam, or something to that effect. Because, you know, Russia's current regime is much too ethical and peace loving to do anything aggressive, and Ukrainians aren't capable of changing their own government without CIA help.

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Hey
3/13/2015 09:23:04 am

And the only reason people are worked up about Ukraine is because it wants to join the EU. Otherwise nobody would be interested at all.

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E. Harding link
3/13/2015 09:50:14 am

1. The coup took place in 2014, not 13.
2. Even if it wasn't entirely engineered by Uncle Sam, Uncle Sam's support for it counts as a provocation.
3. Yup, unprovoked aggression simply is not in the DNA of the Russian leadership. Occasionally violent responses to provocations, however, are.
4. Not everything on Russian state TV is explicitly endorsed by the Russian government. And, if anything, the connections to the Russian government place limits on how incredible Russian state TV can be. In America, there are no such limits, so news ends up being at least as biased and of even poorer quality, but the government bearing no responsibility for its excesses.
5. Why, exactly, couldn't the Ukrainians simply change their government in the next election? It wasn't like Yanukovich's Ukraine was some kind of soft dictatorship, or even as undemocratic as today's Venezuela.

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Hey
3/13/2015 09:58:08 am

Ukraine is known as Little Russia. Russians have been living in Ukraine since the 1700s. There are Ukrainian nationals who prefer to be part of Russia. Not so simple. This information is not given on Western News Reports.

Only Me
3/13/2015 10:06:17 am

"Yup, unprovoked aggression simply is not in the DNA of the Russian leadership."

Tell that to Poland, Finland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Bessarabia, northern Bukovina, Budapest...

Matt Mc
3/13/2015 05:01:35 pm

Not everything on Russian state TV is explicitly endorsed by the Russian government. And, if anything, the connections to the Russian government place limits on how incredible Russian state TV can be


We are talking about the same Russian TV station RT (disclosure I have done freelance camera work for them here in DC) that had reporters quitting because they no longer felt it ethical to report such falsehoods? In Russia all the media is controlled by the Russian Govt. all of it, In the USA the media is overseen by the FCC but its content is not controlled, however broadcast TV (not cable) does have regulation placed on news programs that say the reporting has to be factual (Because the FCC monitors broadcast or over the air TV not cable). The FCC did try to regulate cable like broadcast TV but was unsuccessful thanks to deregulation that started under Reagan and finished under Bush senior.

EP
3/14/2015 04:12:10 am

E. Harding, unless your comment is subtly ironic or trolling, it's so wrong-headed that it's not worthy of a detailed response.

E. Harding link
3/14/2015 06:32:22 am

By "the Russian leadership", I obviously meant the present one, not any previous ones.
"that had reporters quitting because they no longer felt it ethical to report such falsehoods?"
-Liz Wahl's quit was a publicity stunt done under the advice of perfidious and highly stereotypical neocons.
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/how_cold_war-hungry_neocons_stage_managed_liz_wahls_resignation_20140319
Sara Firth obviously quit to advance her career. Any concerns about inaccuracy and innuendo on RT were likely subsidiary to that goal. Of course RT, like Western private media (especially, but not exclusively, cable), spreads falsehoods. This should be obvious to any aware observer.
The FCC states:
"The Commission will investigate a station for news distortion if it receives documented evidence of such rigging or slanting, such as testimony or other documentation, from individuals with direct personal knowledge that a licensee or its management engaged in the intentional falsification of the news. Of particular concern would be evidence of the direction to employees from station management to falsify the news. However, absent such a compelling showing, the Commission will not intervene."

Matt Mc
3/14/2015 10:03:23 am

So how then does America have no such restrictions on truth in News? Cable new entertainment does have less restrictions than broadcast and places like CNN, FOX, MSNBC, ect.... should be taken in with an understanding of the corporate bias that exists one the channel but unlike Russia they are not funded and run by the Government. They as businesses (because that is what they are) chose to present what they present in a manner they see that brings in ratings and advertisers and honestly are not concerned with bringing news and information to the table and as long as they operate under the news entertainment/news commentary monikers they have no obligation to do so. Local news broadcast on over the air stations are different and operate with the understanding that they serve the public interest and have tighter restrictions and standards on truth in delivery, that you cited is taken frpm the FCC Regulation of Broadcast News: First Amendment Perils of Conflicting Standards or Review. a 47 page document that tries to bring an understand of a person or businesses first amendment rights along side of the public responsibility of presenting reporting of news events with a certain expectation of truth so as not to cause addition events that could cause panic or harm to the general public. I welcome everyone to read about the communications act of 1934 which went through several changes that include deregulation in 1984 and 1992, including the removal of the equal time law that greatly affected how political advertising and commentary is expressed on television.

and you can believe that the reporters left for career advancements and publicity stunts all you want. The Russian government still controls and overseas what is presented in the news in on Russia television, it is even handed when it comes to world news that does not affect Russia but not when it comes to supporting Putin's idea and agendas than bias is evident and state supported.


Matt Mc
3/14/2015 10:09:54 am

One should also look into the Fairness Doctrine, which was eliminated in 1987 greatly affected how bias can be presented in a new broadcast. It was eliminated because it was claimed that it gave the FCC to much power to dictate the content of a given program which would be in direct conflict of the 1rst amendment

JAKE
3/14/2015 04:33:49 am

simply facts are not conspiracies, ancient aliens are not facts, those are conspriacies, political elements are facts, and lies generated by governments are to hide those facts.
The fact is the whole xyz colour or not evolutions are generated by some rouge government agency thats only mission is to spread chaos all over the planets except homeland so that the chaos would benefit the supposed more stable and peaceful homeland, it is as simple as that.
Any one truely wish the planet and human race can one day advance to the level of those supposed ancient Aliens or modernday Unidentify flying objects should voice up and group to gether to STOP out of control governments and those 0.1% behind those government that is selfishly thinking they should rule the world. Period!

Fact is: all recent conflicts are all generated by some organisation and bank rolled by 0.1% ...

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Josef Karpinovic
3/13/2015 09:29:40 am

I dunno, Hey. I think the mere fact that a civil war is in progress in Europe would generate some interest, EU aspirations aside.

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Only Me
3/13/2015 10:10:52 am

I'm not sure what's worse, the RT article itself, or the comments following it laying the blame on the Jews.

I guess we'll see how Egypt deals with this.

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Steve
3/13/2015 12:16:36 pm

That guy has issues. I started reading the comments until every other one was him putting his hatred of Jews on display.

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Josef Karpinovic
3/13/2015 10:49:49 am

@E. Harding:
1. The events which led to Yanukovych's removal began to brew in November of 2013.
2. Everything else I said was sarcastic, I kind of thought that would be obvious.
@Hey
I'm not sure where you got the idea that western news outlets don't talk about the fact that large segments of Ukraine's population would like to join Russia, since numerous BBC, CNN, and Reuters articles about the situation have talked about that at length.

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Matt Mc
3/13/2015 11:15:23 am

I was thinking the same thing,

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Hypatia
3/13/2015 02:32:44 pm

, New York Times...

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Shane Sullivan
3/13/2015 11:37:52 am

I'm sure Egypt will get right on that, just as soon as their government decides it doesn't want any more tourism money.

As for the videos: I defy Mr. West to produce any scholar--Hell, any high-school graduate--who believes that civilization "began with the Greeks." I also got a kick out of "smart ol' us come out of that union" at the end of the second video.

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Alaric
3/13/2015 11:57:53 am

"I'm sure Egypt will get right on that, just as soon as their government decides it doesn't want any more tourism money."

The government and the people. There's a reason why in modern times militant Islamic groups in Egypt haven't done this sort of thing. Egypt has relied heavily on tourism for a long, long time.

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Shane Sullivan
3/13/2015 02:36:03 pm

Them too.

Besides, nobody wants to incur the wrath of those Pharoahs to whom the pyramids were built as monuments. They were living gods, y'know. =P

Hypatia
3/13/2015 02:35:53 pm

After watching those videos, I had to watch the 'Vinland Map' one again to speed up my gelatinous matter.

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EP
3/14/2015 04:14:37 am

Let's keep it clean, shall we? :P

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Clete
3/14/2015 03:43:14 am

If extreamists need to have the pyramids and the Sphinx destroyed, all they need do is call Scott Wolter. He will show up with his hammer and a backhoe.

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EP
3/14/2015 06:47:45 am

LOL at all the village leftists in this thread parroting anti-establishment commonplaces and swallowing Russian propaganda.

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Only Me
3/14/2015 08:34:54 am

Don't encourage them. They may mistake you for taking them seriously.

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Scotty Roberts link
3/20/2015 03:46:45 am

Hell just froze over. I agree with you, EP.

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