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J. Hutton Pulitzer Claims That a "Roman" Soldier Is Buried in "Near Conjunction" to Oak Island

11/1/2016

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The Farce of Hoax Island is my parody title for my ongoing coverage of the hype and publicity surrounding the History Channel series The Curse of Oak Island​, returning for its fourth season this month.​

In conjunction with the new season, Xplrr Media announced plans to offer a weekly Facebook video discussion of each episode. In a Facebook broadcast Sunday night leading up to the Xplrr Media Curse of Oak Island​ coverage, J. Hutton Pulitzer announced what he claims to be the discovery of a Roman soldier’s grave near Oak Island in Canada. He offered no proof and no details to support his analysis or his claims. Pulitzer claims that he will provide full details in an upcoming broadcast in an unspecified format, but he did not provide information about the broadcast except to say that he and Xplrr Media business partner Scott Wolter were preparing a two-hour documentary about Oak Island, stones, and other typical fringe history topics. He added that he and Wolter will be meeting in Minnesota this month, though he did not indicate whether this would be at the same time that Wolter will be meeting with Graham Hancock to discuss the role of Atlantis in Pleistocene history.
​Here is a transcript of Pulitzer’s claim, as given in the broadcast:
​I’m going to go ahead and tell you an exclusive here that nobody knows. But I’m going to go ahead and tell you because we’re the source of it, and you’re not going to see it till we release it. But the most important thing I believe that has ever been found near Oak Island, in the proximity of Oak Island, is a burial site, and in that burial site is a human being. And in that burial site of the human being, this human being is in full Roman armor, including weapons and shield. That is the single most exciting thing found in near conjunction to Oak Island. You will see that soon, not on Curse of Oak Island but in a broadcast tied to something else, which obviously will deal with Oak Island. And then you’ll have to ask yourself how in the hell did a Roman and Roman weaponry and gear get buried where it was found. 
​Pulitzer went on criticize Curse of Oak Island, its executive producer Kevin Burns (of Ancient Aliens fame), and the production company, Prometheus Entertainment, claiming that they failed include him in the show’s third season despite signing a contract to do so. He went on to say that he would love to hear Burns answer for why the program is not investigating this alleged find of a “Roman” soldier.
 
Pulitzer claims that the “Roman” burial supports his identification of what Curse of Oak Island determined was a poorly made souvenir sword allegedly found in the waters off Oak Island many decades ago as a genuine Roman artifact. He dismissed evidence that many other examples of such swords exist from the modern era by falsely alleging that the modern swords are made of “wood” or “plastic.” They are artificially aged brass or bronze.
 
I asked the Nova Scotia government’s Communities, Culture and Heritage division yesterday whether any permits have been issued for the excavation of human remains, and whether this find has been reported to the appropriate government authorities. Nova Scotia Communities, Culture and Heritage told me this morning that they are looking into the situation and will let me know what they find.
 
However, because Pulitzer in his rambling discussion expanded the definition of what is “near” Oak Island to include not just Nova Scotia but the entire province of New Brunswick, and perhaps also adjacent areas such as Prince Edward Island and the U.S. state of Maine, there is really no way to tell where he alleges a “Roman” soldier has been found, except to say that it is somewhere in eastern Canada or perhaps northern New England.
 
The burial of a Roman solider in full battle armor would be contrary to standard Roman funerary practice. Romans typically cremated their dead. That is not to say that soldiers in extremis might act differently from standard Roman practice, or even that the burial was intentional, but it does raise questions that Pulitzer’s teaser failed to answer.
 
I am also concerned that in his Facebook statement, Pulitzer relates his belief that the Nova Scotia government is working to suppress the truth about Pre-Columbian Old World visitations to Oak Island. He alleged that the government was actively involved in preventing researchers from uncovering the truth, and this seems to suggest a potential storyline. One can easily envision someone interpreting geophysical scans to suggest “Roman” style armor on a burial, followed by a government refusal to allow excavation.
 
Pulitzer’s allegation that the Romans were involved in Oak Island is not unique to him. Lionel and Patricia Fanthorpe proposed, for example, that Romans and Welshman teamed up to dig the Oak Island Money Pit to hide Welsh gold after the fall of the Western Empire. Pulitzer said that he believed that Oak Island was the final resting place of either the Phoenician god Melqart (whom he calls “Hercules the Navigator”), the Carthaginian explorer Hanno (who explored Africa, as recorded in a famous periplus), or Alexander Helios (the child of Cleopatra VII and Mark Antony). 
55 Comments
Will
11/1/2016 08:15:20 am

Just subscribing to the comments.

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Rick
2/28/2019 01:32:05 pm

I hope he is correct. I do believe info is being suppressed for various reasons. It is my belief that NA , CA and SA were visited regularly by the East traders & such 1000's of yrs ago. I am very interested. I hope it is not BS.Thks

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Peter Geuzen
11/1/2016 09:42:02 am

You would think the uniform would rot away but maybe the magical lodestone of the guys sword can ward off such things. Who am I to say, Jovan is the expert. So what is this? Claim #3247, or have I lost count?

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Time Machine
11/1/2016 09:48:02 am

Dear me, there have been pilgrimages to Jerusalem for millennia on the strength of the pseudo-histories in the Bible.

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An Over-Educated Grunt
11/1/2016 11:00:03 am

Somewhere in an attic there's a portrait of you getting more relevant.

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PaulN. link
11/1/2016 06:22:08 pm

That sounds like a Dorian Grey comment, warts and all.

Andy White
11/1/2016 10:11:00 am

"Near Conjunction" would be a great name for a town in a Mark Twain story about a bunch of idiots.

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Kelly Hancock
11/1/2016 11:32:50 am

LMAO! Indeed!

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Killbuck
11/1/2016 11:38:37 am

Conjunction Junction, what's your function?

If JHP does have a legit site, unmolested, intact, reveal it- still unmolested and intact. It would actually make him famous beyond his echo chamber of supporters. He would be acknowledged as a genuine discoverer of an astounding archaeological find.

Will he do that? (cue the soundtrack of crickets).

Most likely no. Perhaps he will go online and display alleged artifacts and perhaps photos, neither of which could be verified as being from an actual documented site. He could claim he is saving the site and it's artifacts from being suppressed by not revealing the site etc., yet by doing so destroys the validity of his claim. He can continue to feed his renegade warrior for the truth, yada yada.

Seriously, if it's real, get some real archaeologists and specialists to the site. Will that happen?

The cricket soundtrack returns.

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Peter Geuzen
11/1/2016 12:40:15 pm

He has "Top Men" working for him, and "Roman Antiquities Experts", and his full forensic team and Scott Wolter, so come on man, give the guy a chance. 'Top Men' I say, 'Top Men', I mean that is just so impressive.

Mike Morgan
11/1/2016 02:54:06 pm

Killbuck - "Seriously, if it's real, get some real archaeologists and specialists to the site."

Peter Geuzen - "He has "Top Men" working for him ... 'Top Men' I say, 'Top Men', ..."

No need for other archaeologists or 'Top Men', only he himself.

Quote from Pulitzer - "Do you know I in fact do attend a major university doing archaeology undergraduate work?"

From comment by him on October 13 @ 6:08pm under post "What do you see?" by Hutton Pulitzer October 13 at 1:02pm in his "Curse of Oak Island (New -NO Drama - Official)" FaceBook group

Shane Sullivan
11/1/2016 05:39:52 pm

"...his full forensic team OF Scott Wolter..."

Fixed. =P

Jonathan E. Feinstein
11/2/2016 10:53:14 am

Since he won't even say what province or state the find is, it seems obvious that he has not yet planted his "evidence." He might be waiting for it to go on sale (http://www.halloweencostumes.com/adult-deluxe-roman-armor-helmet.html?PCID=34&utm_source=googleps&utm_medium=PPC&utm_campaign=PLA-All)

Sadly, even if he had a legit find, his warped view of how to conduct an archaeological study would invalidate all his proof.

Joe Scales link
11/2/2016 11:17:12 am

More on those "top men":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoy4_h7Pb3M

Tom
11/1/2016 12:15:47 pm

"The Nova Scotia government is working to suppress the truth" of possibly the greatest publicity coup and tourist money maker in its history??
In the words of the sainted John McEnroe,"You cannot be serious"

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Residents Fan
11/1/2016 08:03:51 pm

"The Nova Scotia government is working to suppress the truth" of possibly the greatest publicity coup and tourist money maker in its history??"

I'm reminded of the character Danny Bennett in Tom Holt's humorous novels, who thinks the world is run by the British Milk Marketing Board.

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Joe Scales link
11/1/2016 12:17:46 pm

The only place to find the truth about Oak Island, courtesy of Richard Joltes:

http://www.criticalenquiry.org/oakisland/index.shtml

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Kathleen
11/1/2016 06:39:37 pm

Thanks, great site

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Bob Jase
11/1/2016 02:30:21 pm

The Templars are gonna be awfully mad that the Romans stole their treasure 600 years before they accumulated it and then had the nerve to bury it in the exact same place they did.

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Andy White
11/1/2016 03:13:13 pm

The Templars travel through time. Get real.

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Phillip
11/1/2016 03:16:33 pm

Thanks Andy, I'm pitching that to History producers ASAP.

Friday at 7 pm. "Templar Time Travelers"

Andy White
11/1/2016 03:29:11 pm

You stole my idea. I'm going to travel back in time and un-say it.

Mike Morgan
11/1/2016 04:17:48 pm

Sorry Andy and Phillip, Alan Butler and Christopher Knight beat you to the punch with the time traveling future successors to the Venus Family/Knights Templar/Freemasons.

http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/alan-butler-moon-built-by-time-traveling-humans-washington-monument-signals-mithras-worship

Kal
11/1/2016 03:54:37 pm

Did you all say Roman solider? Oh gads no. Hooded soldier. It's an old leather codpiece. It's colonial. Ya people in the USA is gullible.

SW and JHP brought the fake sword here and unearthed it, ya. Nothing to see here. Suspect they also brought the fake armor, which they got at a fair. It's all plastic and fakery, but they dunnot know tin from iron.

Ha, my fake attempt to imitate how it sounds on that show.

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DanD
11/1/2016 05:44:36 pm

I'm sure a white paper will be available shortly to tie this altogether.

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Americanegro
11/3/2016 03:29:50 pm

How do you get to "hooded" from codpiece? A codpiece is basically a jockstrap.

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GEE
11/1/2016 06:23:37 pm

Trolling Comments.

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Kathleen
11/1/2016 06:46:38 pm

This must have been answered before, why do people believe that Romans/Templars/Pirates/Leprechauns buried their treasures in such a manner that they themselves could not retrieve it? I mean, what good is loot if you can't spend it?

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Uncle Ron
11/1/2016 10:00:21 pm

Thanks, Kathleen! I've been asking that question since I first read about Oak Island in the 1960s. If WE can't get to the treasure with modern excavating equipment how could THEY have buried it so deeply with only shovels and tackle? Har!

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At Risk
11/2/2016 12:13:29 pm

Unless I'm mistaken, there may be a possible way of relocating something purposely buried--whether a gloriously filled treasure chest or a mundane horseshoe; a simple and purposeful encoding of landscape rocks might enable persons to return and retrieve something previously buried, as suggested here by an old blog friend (to some):

http://www.norwegianamerican.com/opinion/in-defense-of-the-kensington-runestone-a-code-stone/

Kathleen
11/2/2016 12:31:52 pm

Hi At Risk. Even if those folks could put a huge X made of boulders over the spot, I don't see how they could retrieve it once it's located. With other items, it certainly is a likely option.

At Risk
11/2/2016 01:01:17 pm

Hi Kathleen. I guess that's somehow part of the appeal, that whatever is supposedly "down there" in the Money Pit at Oak Island is also supposedly considered nearly irretrievable. But, without irrefutable evidences of some kind, I see only wasted time in the future of Oak Island. There has to be something more to go on for believing something is buried.

Kathleen
11/2/2016 04:42:54 pm

Agreed. Wish they would expend their time, financial, mental and physical resources on something real and worthwhile.

(You and me, for instance)

But as long as people continue to watch them, they will keep on with this silliness. Shame on them all.

Joe Scales
11/3/2016 10:25:10 pm

And if you're going to bury the Ark of the Covenant, you don't go leaving a tackle block hanging from a tree over the mound of soft earth above it.

This hoax was ridiculous upon its inception, as even if the tale of the original find was true, the more obvious conclusion based upon the evidence would be that something war retrieved rather than disposed of.

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nomuse
11/1/2016 11:47:17 pm

In conjunction. In near conjunction. On the same planet, even!

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Brady Yoon
11/2/2016 02:18:54 am

Why wouldn't an empire that controlled the entire Mediterranean Sea, and large parts of Europe, Africa, and the Middle East have explored the Atlantic Ocean? Surely they had the time, money, and ships needed to do so. Isn't it rather presumptuous to say that the sword is a hoax, especially given the fact that so much knowledge was lost following the collapse of the Roman Empire?

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Jim
11/2/2016 02:44:55 am

Isn't it rather presumptuous to assume the sword is real, considering it is made of a metal alloy that wasn't technically possible to produce back then ?

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RobZ
11/2/2016 07:01:08 am

@Jim: Not if you presume 'lost knowledge', 'secret societies', 'alien intervention' and of course 'giants', it's not.
Admit it Jim, you are part of the 'main stream suppression conspiracy'! ;-)

Uncle Ron
11/2/2016 10:39:04 am

Brady- just go here and read all about it:
http://www.andywhiteanthropology.com/fake-hercules-swords.html

An Over-Educated Grunt
11/2/2016 08:36:46 am

Given that the Roman Empire didn't fall until 1453, the loss of knowledge was not so significant as to include losing a whole continent. If Roman shipbuilding technology had included ocean-going, sail-driven, variable-rigged vessels, rather than shallow-draft, oar-driven, single-meat square-sailed vessels, we would certainly have a record, or even examples, of that, given the digs at Ostia and other harbors. If Roman sword typology had included cast, not forged, blades, again, records and examples. If there were even examples of ritual swords of the type, we would, again, have records or examples, because the Romans both loved to write and were incredibly gossipy. We have no reason to believe the sword is a genuine artifact, no reason to believe it was found in a site where there was any Roman context, and plenty of reasons to believe it's a modern tourist trinket (we have other swords of the same type, all modern) found by a self-aggrandizing bandwagoner (CueCat "inventor" and self-styled Treasure Force Commander J. Hutton Pulitzer).

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An Over-Educated Grunt
11/2/2016 08:40:14 am

Single-meat...? I hate posting from a phone. Single mast.

Kathleen
11/2/2016 10:18:48 am

The mental picture made me chuckle.

Brady Yoon
11/3/2016 01:05:01 am

But swords aren't the only evidence that Romans reached the Americas. Coins of alleged Roman origin have been found in shipwrecks off the coast of Brazil, and in several places across the New World. The Tecaxic-Calixtlahuaca head was discovered in 1933 in Mexico, and was part of a grave offering. It was dated to sometime between 1476 and 1510 AD. The Spanish had not arrived in Mexico at this time, and even if they had, why would they have brought something like that with them? You can read about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tecaxic-Calixtlahuaca_head. If swords were the only "Roman" artifacts found in the New World, it would make sense to dismiss them as a hoax.

An Over-Educated Grunt
11/3/2016 09:31:29 am

And a Buddha statue was found as grave goods in Denmark, in good, clear context dated by both relative and absolute means. Shall I take that as evidence that the Vikings were Buddhists? Even the Wikipedia page you quote offers three other hypotheses, one of which is "it's a hoax." Further exploration shows that even the dating given of late pre-Columbian for that artifact is disputed by the physicists who ran the dating tests, and the in situ context, which is everything worth having in archaeology, was not sufficiently documented at the time of excavation. Having said all of that, none of those things are the dig report. The dig report wasn't published until thirty years after the excavations, and after the death of the principal archaeologist. This makes it impossible to verify what was actually found, where it was found, and that the site wasn't contaminated in the million possible ways to contaminate an archaeological site. The best the Texacic-Calixtlahuaca head offers is a very faint maybe.

I can give you at least one explanation of how a piece of statuary, or coins, or in fact pretty much anything gets dumped in strange places: ships without cargo needed ballast to maintain stability. Using statuary as ballast is only rare because statues are relatively rare compared to other kinds of stone. There is absolutely nothing unusual about a ship departing Europe with a piece of statuary as ballast, then dropping that at the distant wend while laden for a return trip. By 1500, this was far more likely than a completely forgotten Roman voyage using ship construction techniques that the Romans just didn't have. Longshore transport accounts for the movement of ballast, especially relatively small, relatively light items (like the head of a figurine).

Further, we aren't talking about any artifacts but this sword and this supposed body. This sword is, for all the reasons mentioned already (metallurgy, not matching any known Roman artifact or even style of manufacture, matching known modern pieces) overwhelmingly probably, as in dismissed out of hand without a perfect, pristine context, which is not going to happen if J. Hutton Pulitzer is involved. The preservation of textile finds, which he implies, is ship vanishingly unlikely after more than a thousand years in the climate and conditions described as to get you laughed out of presenting it if you don't document every single step of discovery and excavation. He doesn't, hasn't, and won't; therefore the null hypothesis is "not real because of lack of evidence that it's real."

Brady Yoon
11/4/2016 02:07:07 am

So how is what you're saying different from "it's all a conspiracy?" Because that's what it's sounding like. Seems like this blog isn't very friendly to conspiratorial thinking.

An Over-Educated Grunt
11/4/2016 08:57:04 am

Ah yes, the dread conspiracy of organic chemistry (textiles don't survive well for a thousand-plus years buried in temperate, humid climates), metallurgy (Romans didn't make swords that way), maritime engineering (Romans didn't make ships that way), hydrology (longshore transport can move small objects fairly long distances), and human nature (we have plenty of examples of hoaxes, Pulitzer is a self-aggrandizing, litigious blowhard who has yet to provide evidence of his many claims).

That's quite a conspiracy you're saying I allege. Especially since the sources I got for my doubts about your Mexican artifact were the references on the page you yourself posted and even so I didn't rule out its authenticity, just called it exceedingly unlikely and said the archeological evidence for it is weak or contaminated. You haven't offered a shred of evidence for the legitimacy of any of these artifacts. Unless you have something better than wishful thinking, I suggest you engage in a more in-depth study of the problem before you tell me science is a conspiracy against Treasure Force Commander J. Hutton Pulitzer.

Mike Morgan
11/4/2016 12:19:41 pm

Brady Yoon: "Seems like this blog isn't very friendly to conspiratorial thinking." Ha ha ha, ROFLMAO.

You must be new here. Have you read other posts and comments on this blog?

Pacal
11/6/2016 05:32:33 pm

Regarding this comment:

"But swords aren't the only evidence that Romans reached the Americas. Coins of alleged Roman origin have been found in shipwrecks off the coast of Brazil, and in several places across the New World. The Tecaxic-Calixtlahuaca head was discovered in 1933 in Mexico, and was part of a grave offering. It was dated to sometime between 1476 and 1510 AD. The Spanish had not arrived in Mexico at this time, and even if they had, why would they have brought something like that with them? You can read about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tecaxic-Calixtlahuaca_head. If swords were the only "Roman" artifacts found in the New World, it would make sense to dismiss them as a hoax."

The coins are fascinating but it is interesting to point out that the coins were not found in a secure archeological context but are instead surface finds. Also the coins are overwhelmingly found North of the Rio Grande. And a fair number of people in the USA have been collecting and losing Greek and Roman coins for over 100 years. As for coins found in ship wreaks off Brazil I think your referring to a collection of coins found in a pot on a beach in Venezuela in a pot. I should say allegedly because we don't know where the pot was actually found and the pot has disappeared. The coins are sometimes thought to a Roman Merchant's ready stash hidden after a ship wreak but first it contains a very wide variety of coins separated by centuries and incredibly 2 Muslim coins from the 9th century C.E. So it can't be a Roman Merchant's ready cash. In fact it appears to be someone's lost coin collection.

Also one would think that Roman merchants would go to the Mayans and Mexicans of Teotihuacan rather than America North of the Rio Grande. So far no Roman coins or artifacts have in fact been found in Mexican archeological remains dating from the time of the Roman Empire.

And finally the Roman Geographer Strabo in his work Geography specifically mentions people trying to sail to Asia by going west and that they found nothing.

Kal
11/2/2016 12:27:04 pm

Treasure Force Commander? Is that like Duck Commander? It sounds like a hokey 80s video game knock off of Indiana Jones, or a current bootleg direct to DVD fake title film capitalizing on a current film, but because Treasure Force Commander is so old, he thinks Duck Dynasty is a modern hip narrative. Either that, or he thinks it sounds cool, which is even sadder somehow.

News to the weird, Oak Island itself having any treasure is a fake. Anything found there is staged, and I've seen like a dozen episodes of that dreadful program, (partly thanks to this blog) and it is so staged it makes Storage Wars look like honest to gosh real estate news.

News to SW (Minnesota's own Indy fake) the KRS is a fake. Nobody will take it seriously.

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Jennygirl00
11/3/2016 05:07:56 am

Ok. Let me get this straight? A Roman solider love naked to Oak Island. There is just so much wrong with this I don't know where to start except to say since no other ancient treasure has been found maybe this is being said to get people re-interested in the Curse of Oak Island show. Don't ask me why they are having a new season because its mind-boggling that anyone watched after the first season. I'm sorry. It's just been a BIG disappointment. There's got to be some unknown reason the show is continuing.

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RobZ
11/3/2016 05:21:00 am

"A Roman solider love naked to Oak Island." :-) Oh that auto-correct function, ay?

As to the (not so) unknown reason for the shows continuation: Money and gullible people.

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An Over-Educated Grunt
11/3/2016 09:39:35 am

I watched it, when I did, out of professional interest. It's a terrible treasure-hunting show, but the sections dealing with dewatering, coring, dye tests, and earthwork were pretty good.

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Americanegro
11/3/2016 03:43:47 pm

Jenny, are you looking for love naked Roman sexy time?

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Americanegro
11/3/2016 03:44:44 pm

As soon as I saw the name "Wolter" I knew there would be some wildly unbelievable made-up bulls hit involved.

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Titus pullo
11/3/2016 07:12:30 pm

First oak island, if u want to bury something so it's never recovered u can just sail a day out to the ocean and dump it. Much cheaper. If u want to recover it why have boobytraps to flood it so no one can ever get it. Roman ships were not capable of transversing the North Atlantic anyway. Mr. Pulitzer, is that his real name?, is looking fir a quick buck but he is so bad at the fringe history business he makes EVD look like Steve Jobs

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