Jacques Vallee is not your typical ufologist, at least in the sense that he differs from Giorgio Tsoukalos in discounting the “nuts and bolts” aspects of alien spacecraft. Instead, he supports an idea he calls the “ultra-terrestrial hypothesis” (UTH) whereby aliens are to be understood as a culturally-bound manifestation of non-human intelligences that communicate with us from another dimension via human consciousness. That doesn’t stop him, of course, from looking for UFOs. In 2009, Vallee and ufologist Chirs Aubeck wrote Wonders in the Sky: Unexplained Aerial Objects from Antiquity to Modern Times. This is Vallee’s version of an ancient astronaut book. The book is organized into three parts: a chronology of events, a discussion of myths and ancient astronauts, and a methodology. Unlike previous reviews, I’m not going to go through this line by line because so much of the book is devoted to modern materials that are beyond my purview. I am, however, very interested in exploring Vallee’s “evidence” for UFOs in ancient and early medieval times, and I also plan to review some of his arguments about myths, legends, and ancient astronauts. I imagine this will take a few posts to get through. Vallee and Aubeck (hereafter V&A) draw four conclusions, presented at the start of the book. These are that (a) unexplained aerial phenomena are real, (b) human interpret these through the lens of culture, (c) these events have been suppressed but impacted culture and religion, and (d) ancient sightings can inform understanding of modern sightings. The authors then review the secondary literature on the folkloric analogues to modern UFO sightings, and V&A seem to imply that we should view religious texts written long after the events they describe, like 2 Enoch and the Mithras Liturgy as reporting genuine phenomena, despite the obviously fictional narratives to which the “UFO” reports are attached. But even here in the introduction V&A are not playing fair with the ancient texts. The Mithras Liturgy, a Greek magical papyrus found in Egypt, is excerpted in carefully selected segments to make it appear to describe a typical UFO: The visible gods will appear through the disk of gold...and in similar fashion the so-called 'pipe,' the origin of the ministering wind. For you will see it hanging from the sun-disk like a pipe...and when the disk is open you will see the fireless circle, and the fiery doors shut tight. Then open your eyes and you will see the doors open and the world of gods which is within the doors. But this omits so much to make its fake UFO. I can’t even quote the whole passage to show you how much is cut out because it is simply too long. I’ll link you to the complete text here, in the same translation used by V&A. Look at the very first words quoted. An essential bit of information is left out: “Now the course of the visible gods will appear through the disk of god…” This refers not to aliens but to the planets seen on the “disc” of the sky—the plane of the stars. The rest of the text is about the astrological signs. The “pipe” isn’t a physical UFO but rather a bit of astrological mumbo jumbo. Almost one hundred lines later, the full text makes very plain that the antecedent to the “disk” with doors is the “sun’s disk,” not some mysterious UFO. Besides, how many UFOs have within them “many five-pronged stars coming forth from the disk and filling all the air”? It’s just a description of an astrologer’s view of the sky.
But the edits, unforgiveable edits, distort this into something it is not. Sadly, this seems to be a pattern in this book. But, on to the evidence. EGYPT We start with the Gebel Barkal Stela, which, in a partially damaged section, tells of how a “star” defeated the Nubians, according to V&A. V&A use a translation that appears to have been done into English from a German translation of an Egyptian original. A direct translation implies that a small meteorite fell into the enemy camp, causing fire and chaos. However, V&A offer a reconstruction of the damaged section favorable to ancient astronaut views, while other efforts to translate the damaged text differ markedly. For example, this translation views the star passage entirely as astrological in nature, with only humans responsible for the Nubians’ defeat—and to be honest, in the context of the stela’s full text, this seems like the more logical reading, since the puissant king was likened to a shooting star earlier in the text. At any rate, this is much more ambiguous than V&A pretend, and their emphasis on the “undisputable” authenticity of the text implies they think more of it than it is worth. Similarly, they quote Akhenaton’s texts about the Aten, the sun disc, as reflective of the round shape of flying saucers. The Egyptians understood the difference between the sun and things that are not the sun. As you can see from the translation of the stelae linked here, which V&A fail to provide, Akhenaton does not, as they claim, say he saw a “shining disc” descend from the sky like a UFO. He says he saw the sun disc, his chief god. Such is the evidence from Egypt. THE BIBLE V&A cite the translation of Elijah (2 Kings 2:11) as evidence of an alien abduction, although Elijah’s foreknowledge of his coming journey is not typical of alien abductions. Similarly, the text makes plain that the “fiery chariot” is not the vehicle of Elijah’s translation, but rather a “whirlwind.” As I discussed a while back, this passage has provoked a great deal of commentary, including questions about whether the ambiguous Hebrew refers specifically to traveling to heaven or to the extinguishing of Elijah’s life. Indeed, early Jewish and Christian sources did not read this passage as referring to a translation to heaven at all. They then describe Ezekiel’s vision (Ezekiel 1:4-21) as a “craft” (a loaded term), even though this vision has long been well-explained as standard Mesopotamian religious iconography associated with the wheeled thrones used to transport statues of the gods. They cite Ezekiel 3:12-15 as evidence of an alien abduction even though the plain reading of the text is at odds with that interpretation as Ezekiel never claims to have entered a craft or to have been transported to outer space or heaven. In fact, his reference to being “lifted up” does not even imply flying (flight is never mentioned) but rather being raised from a seated position. ROME V&A start by citing Julius Obsequens, a writer of the fourth century CE, on events four hundred years earlier, and they recognize that his references to fiery globes may well refer to meteors. At any rate, four hundred years after the fact is rather worthless evidence. Next we get material from the Christian writer Clement of Alexandria (Stromata 1.24) describing how a “pillar” of flame guided the Athenian statesman Thrasybulus nearly six hundred years earlier. The authors leave out the fact that Clement was purposely manipulating the story to emphasize parallels to the pillar form of Yahweh in Exodus, which he accused Thrasybulus of plagiarizing. Clement, however, never says that the pillar of flame was particularly large, and the story is known only from him. It probably referred originally to Thrasybulus attributing his deliverance to the torch-bearing goddess Artemis, to whom he built an altar as Phosphorus, the light-bringer. (Indeed, the entire story may well be an ex post facto myth explaining why Artemis was worshiped unusually as Phosphorus at Munychia.) Then we have Diodorus Siculus’ report (16.66.3) of a light in the sky seen by Timoleon several centuries earlier. The authors note that it could have been a comet or a meteor, and I have to concur with the scholars who suggest that a meteor or comet was exaggerated in the telling across the centuries—something seen elsewhere in Diodorus, in known contexts. Afterward, we have an out-of-context quotation from Livy (History of Rome 21.62) about a phantom navy seen in the sky in 218 BCE. Livy considers this no more credible than stories of talking babies or a shower of stones from the sky. At any rate, these ships were apparently recognizably Roman vessels, and well-known phenomena akin to mirages can produce similar effects if one is so included to seek out a rationalization for a secondhand story of a supposed vision. V&A quote a second bit of Livy (22.1) to the effect that “at Arpi shields had been seen in the sky and the sun had appeared to be fighting with the moon; at Capena two moons were visible in the daytime,” but they again leave out the context that these were but two signs among many, all unbelievable: Livy reports that shields and statues exuded blood, that waters turned to blood, and that the very grain bled. He also notes that at Capua at the same time, the sky caught fire and the moon fell out of its orbit during a rainstorm. V&A simply ignore all of this, and instead take half of a sentence as evidence of “disk-shaped flying objects.” So what of the bleeding statues and the moon falling out of the sky? What bothers me, though, is that V&A don’t bother to tell us where in the texts their quotes come from, making it difficult to trace back the original—especially since they only cite a scanned reprint of a 1905 translation lacking any of the usual chapter and paragraph numbering! The next source, supposedly talking about men in a flying disc, the authors admit they can’t trace back beyond a 1960s Italian popular magazine. I think it’s a fabrication from part of Livy 21.62 where men in white were seen at a distance (on the ground), rewritten to make it seem like they were on the flying ships. Since there is no actual source given, we can ignore the probably fake quote. I think I’ll stop for today with the next piece of evidence, another line from Julius Obsequens, as reconstructed in the sixteenth century, claiming that men in white clothes were seen around an altar in the sky in 213 BCE. V&A correctly note that this account is almost certainly duplicated from the white-clothed men seen at a distance in Livy’s report in 21.62. I’ll pick up tomorrow with the next set of Roman prodigies, but I think you can see that so far V&A haven’t made much of a case for ancient UFOs. They have, however, demonstrated that neither author knows much about ancient texts and that both have a fondness for secondhand sources and superficial readings of ancient material. Oh, right: They’re ancient astronaut theorists.
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Tara Jordan
4/28/2013 07:50:35 am
Another brilliant post. "that neither author knows much about ancient texts and that both have a fondness for second hand sources and superficial readings of ancient material". Precisely my issue with Jacques Vallee.I read his book,en Français dans le texte but as much as I initially appreciated his non Orthodox approach to the ufo phenomena,Vallee pretty much ended up in bed with traditional ufologists supporting the close & personal encounters,abduction narratives,& validating dubious & extravagant claims.It`s unfortunate to say,but under scrutiny,there is nothing scientific in Vallee`s work.He is neither an historian nor an anthropologist,when he presents so called "historical evidences", he doesn't understand the sociological,societal,psychological & cultural contexts.But my main issue with Vallee is related to his attitude, he is too much of a nice guy,he never calls a cat a cat,charlatans & hoaxers are no part of his vocabulary.He is way too diplomatic to express his personal opinions.
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4/28/2013 07:59:07 am
I'm not a professional historian by any means, but even I know how to look stuff up and that you can't just pick and choose material out of context. I don't see why I'm supposed to take Vallee seriously just because he is French and speaks in the French philosophical elocution. In the material I'm working on for tomorrow, I'm having a terrible time just figuring out where he's getting his material (let alone how it's being manipulated) because he just won't provide any sort of accurate citation. It's maddening.
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Tara Jordan
4/28/2013 10:08:22 am
I was too polite to suggest Vallee was cherry picking, you did it for me. I am looking at Passport to Magonia,there is no bibliography,only chapters notes, but with no specific references to citations & pages. Needles in haystacks...I found some documentation on Bishop Agobard case. If you`re interested, you know how to reach me.
Buyers Beware
7/7/2013 09:25:06 am
It appears that Jacques Vallee is attempting to state what SO MANY OF US ARE SAYING, that the gods of the Old Testament and New were aliens. If that is what he is saying than I agree completely. I have 5 books at Kindle E-Books that say the very same thing. Those who still attempt to believe that the Bible is the inspired word of god are blinded to the truth about who these ancient gods were. Once again Jesus referred to the gods of the Jews aka Hebrews as scorpions, snakes and serpents, as the Evil Powers and Principalities of the air and the real rulers of this 3 dimensional world. Christians who continue to ignore this and promote the Old Testament are a real problem to the TRUTHERS MOVEMENT. It is hard for people who have grown up trusting in religion and the Bible, to realize the evil that lies between the covers of the so called ‘HOLY BIBLE.” I believe Marcions New Testament was much closer to the truth about who Jesus was and what he taught. I believe the Jewish and Roman Orthodox Catholic and Christian Church founders like Emperor Constantine, Jerome and his “Copy Pasters” doctored and Judaized Marcions Original New Testament before they put it in the Roman canon. Also keep in mind that Christians refuse to look at what the Bible says about the many references to the ‘GODS.” They never stop to wonder why the Bible is filled with references to (your god, my god, their god, god of the Israelites, god of Moses etc.) Thank goodness the pews of churches are at an all time low and dwindling as we speak. It gives those of us who are exposing the aliens in the Bible an easier time of waking up the masses and to show how long these other dimensional, alien gods have infiltrated the religious practices in our world.
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A.G.L. Buyers Beware
4/17/2014 03:53:23 am
JACQUES VALLEE SEEMS TO BE SHARING ACCURATE INFORMATION
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A.G.L. Buyers Beware
4/17/2014 03:53:32 am
JACQUES VALLEE SEEMS TO BE SHARING ACCURATE INFORMATION
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A.G.L. Buyers Beware
4/17/2014 03:54:13 am
JACQUES VALLEE SEEMS TO BE SHARING ACCURATE INFORMATION
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Bill Adcock
4/28/2013 03:40:29 pm
As a trained historian, the cherry-picking gives me chest-pains. I have to say, Jason, I'm in awe at the ease (whether from long practice on your part, my own faulty perceptions, or some combination of both) with which you analyze and dissect these pro-ufology accounts.
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spookyparadigm
4/29/2013 02:03:18 am
That's part of it. But it came from several sources.
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Bill Adcock
4/29/2013 03:40:42 am
Thank you for the clarification! I'm trying to do this through my phone at the moment, but I'm looking forward to checking out your link when I get back to a proper computer and can read more comfortably. I'd love to read more about the 1954 botanical-collecting ufonauts. Time to check the local library for Vallee's books, I think.
spookyparadigm
4/29/2013 04:08:23 am
Bill, the most influential version comes from Keel's _The Mothman Prophecies_. While it isn't an investigatory book in the same sense as Vallee's Passport to Magonia (it is more like Vallee's Messengers of Deception in some ways, including questions about how reliable the whole thing is), its writing power (it is an effective book with a few rough spots) and style has led to it being the model for a whole section of occulture that tries to uncomfortably straddle Fortean materialism, and po-mo magick. 4/29/2013 01:42:31 pm
Thanks for the compliment, Bill. For the most part, alternative writers go for low hanging fruit, so it's usually easy to find their sources. They aren't going rummaging in the untranslated Pindar scholia, for example, so usually Googling the quotes finds the source, and how they've manipulated it.
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Bill Adcock
4/29/2013 10:58:59 pm
I'm pretty sure I picked up a copy of The Mothman Prophecies when the Richard Gere movie came out. I think I still have it here somewhere - I'll have to dig it out and give it a go.
nablator
4/29/2013 12:59:54 am
"The next source, supposedly talking about men in a flying disc, the authors admit they can’t trace back beyond a 1960s Italian popular magazine."
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4/29/2013 01:44:12 pm
Thanks for the reference. Wilkins' "Flying Saucers on the Attack" seems to be the source for a good number of Vallee's quotations, and as I've learned, Wilkins falsified or mistranslated a lot of stuff in his book.
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Dan D
4/29/2013 11:10:52 am
This maybe off subject but does anyone remember reading 'Commuion' by Whitley Strieber back in the mid- eighties.
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5/20/2013 11:42:18 pm
I imagine this will take a few posts to get through.
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Randy
9/27/2013 06:26:37 am
Yeah but in the introduction it is mentioned that all of the passages which have a "circled lowercase i" designator are problematic for any number of reasons. That is against other texts where it is as much of a direct account as reasonably possible.
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9/27/2013 06:31:31 am
Vallee didn't have any trouble using many of those same texts in "Passport to Magonia" as legitimate.
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Randy
9/28/2013 06:27:14 am
Great point Jason. I'll ad that JV did have probably 33% or more of the entries with said typographical feature (typographical feature...much better way to phrase my description of it). I haven't counted but it was used a lot. That did bother me as I read it and is extremely problematic to be sure.
Randy
9/27/2013 06:39:53 am
For the best read on UFO's though I think Richard Dolan takes it. With the amount of research and he has done, he has started to get "close" to it and is swimming in editorial and opinion a bit these days. That doesn't matter to me. I will forever have the stance that bias and opinion win over the myth of pure objectivity 100% of the time--that's my bias.
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Buyers Beware
9/27/2013 06:52:10 am
HUMMM! WHAT ON EARTH IS THIS COMMENT IN REFERENCE TO?
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9/27/2013 07:09:11 am
You apparently subscribed to this blog post's thread at some point. If you did not mean to do so, click "unsubscribe" in the email to be removed from updates on this specific post's comment thread.
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4/16/2014 07:02:00 pm
The following is my opinion. These things you are all talking about can be interpreted many different ways. You have your ways of intrepreting them and Dr. Vallee has his ways of interpreting them. No one can say for sure who is right. So you can read what he has written and take or leave it. As far as his conclusions, though, I do believe he has a better grasp and understanding of the phenomenon than practically anyone else.
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A.G.L. Buyers Beware
4/17/2014 03:54:56 am
JACQUES VALLEE SEEMS TO BE SHARING ACCURATE INFORMATION
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george kanakaris
8/13/2014 09:24:05 am
All is allowed to discredit the idea of extraterrestial life. Don't bother me with facts , my mind's made up.
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12/16/2014 10:35:52 pm
You have to be on purpose blind not to understand that all these aparritions in the skies are foretold along time before.
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1/11/2015 06:25:06 pm
re Elijah and especially Ezekiel, so glad you noticed that Jason! I could never understand why people get so mixed up like that, they must take von Daniken and whoever on FAITH these writers are THE POPE(S) who are INFALLIBLE! must always accept the word of the Magisterium consisting of these and Velikovsky and others.
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sam
10/1/2015 05:30:13 pm
You have seriously misrepresented Valles work here.
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Bryan
11/3/2015 11:58:16 pm
I couldn't agree more! I was interested to read what the Author of this blog had to say about Vallee and upon reading I could see that he along with his smug devotees are interpreting vallee completely wrong!
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Tomas W
4/16/2017 05:04:54 pm
Vallee has always said that there was a phenomenon and that the phenomenon is not "made by humans" (ie secret aircraft etc). In any case, why do Vallee and Aubeck have a problem with citing the correct sources and not omitting text?
Chris Sarno
2/21/2018 04:22:37 pm
Checkmate! The author humiliated himself by way of his atrocious attempt to equate Vallee and his superb work with that of the Ancient Alien kooks and hucksters....You cannot make up that kind of stupid, likely the author was declined an autograph by Vallee and harbors him a massive grudge.
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5/1/2016 04:39:19 pm
I agree that the suspicion no meteorite only the king's forces were involved. "to the ends of Asia" wow do those people EXAGGERATE! I am amazed that historians take Egyptian information seriously at all. David Rohl has made some interesting alternative chronology based on distrust of modern awe of Egypt.
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Trevor
2/6/2017 08:09:29 pm
The problem with bringing up ancient texts that describe strange phenomena is that we weren't there. There are common beliefs throughout history spanning the entire globe. This knowledge was most likely passed along from one group to the next. As it's passed along it gets changed a little. Still, these beliefs share commonalities. Unless you are a scholar of ancient history you won't have the same perspective they do in understanding the culture, their beliefs, and how the language (both literal and symbolic). it is pointless to use any of those ancient texts in the study of UFOs, at least in the context of proving any of them are speaking of some external agent.
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