Janet Wolter and Alan Butler Make False Claims about Templars, Pyramids, Gothic Architecture, and More in Podcast Interview
Since you can read about Wolter’s and Butler’s goddess claims in my review, I won’t repeat them here. Suffice it to say that the cover their bonkers ideas about the Grange, baseball diamonds, goddesses, the planet Venus, obelisks, the “occult” layout of Washington, D.C., and the like. I have discussed the problems with these claims in my review, so it isn’t really worth trying to laugh again through their claims that baseball diamonds are secret goddess temples and monuments to Freemasons and vaginas. To this, they add new claims, derived from Scott Wolter’s tie-in episode of America Unearthed, alleging that the Vanderbilt family are conspirators and guardians of forbidden Masonic secrets. But I’ve already covered that, too. This material takes up the majority of the podcast.
You have to admire, I guess, their commitment to rigorously refusing to say anything they haven’t said before. With the precision of authoritarian propagandists, they understand that repeating the same claims over and over, often in the same words, drives home their message. A lie, repeated often enough, becomes indistinguishable from the truth. Occasionally, though, they said something new(ish).
Butler makes an unusual claim, asserting that the builders of stone circles in Thornbury, England, were the “mathematicians” who traveled to Egypt and laid out the plans for the Giza pyramids, to be built a thousand years later. This reverses the Victorian notion that the U.K. had Egyptian heritage (when Princess Scota brough the Stone of Scone to Scotland), but it is nevertheless a troublingly racist development in seeking to whitewash the pyramids as the work of the ancient British instead of the indigenous Egyptians.
Butler also asserts that the Templar/Freemason/Shemsu Hor conspiracy of goddess-worshiping master-builders has no need to respect time, so “they don’t care” if it takes 10 generations to achieve their master plan for any particular monument or site. This is a convenient way of avoiding any responsibility to prove one’s claims, since it allows for connections where no temporal relationship exists, and if a correlation isn’t complete, then the plan just hasn’t been brought to fruition yet. That’s why they can claim that elements of Washington, D.C. added only in the last few decades are somehow part of a master plan dating back to the 1700s, despite manifest evidence to the contrary.
An hour into the podcast, Scott Wolter joins to add his two cents. The hosts, the Wolters, and Butler share pleasantries and laugh with one another until one of the hosts asks Butler about Oak Island, a subject where Butler and Scott Wolter disagree. Butler has appeared several times on Curse of Oak Island and promotes the “mystery” of Oak Island as a genuine puzzle of cosmic proportions. Scott Wolter discounts both the show and the mystery, preferring to refocus Templar conspiracies onto his more favored locations, including Rhode Island and Minnesota. “I reserve my judgment and won’t say any more on the subject,” Butler says to avoid causing a scene. The most interesting part of the discussion is the way the hosts and the guests can’t separate Curse of Oak Island from the actual history of Oak Island, such that whatever is said on TV automatically becomes part of that history, and the real history becomes nothing more than fodder for TV. Their belief in whatever theory of Oak Island they discuss is contingent on how Kevin Burns from Prometheus Entertainment depicts it on Curse. It is a fascinating example of how pseudohistory and cable TV have inexorably merged.
It is probably also quite telling that once again Scott Wolter discusses the National Treasure movie franchise in terms of his research, and he claims that an official told him that parts of the franchise’s depiction of the secrets of Washington, D.C. are true.
Wolter goes on to claim that the “secret of the Ark of the Covenant” is “how to make one,” strongly implying that he has bought into the false Graham Hancock / Erich von Däniken idea about the Ark as a technological device or weapon of electrical power.
Near the end, Butler makes a wildly uninformed claim that the Gothic cathedrals were “so different” from anything that came before that they “might as well have been brought by aliens.” He has apparently never seen a Romanesque cathedral or noticed how the Gothic style developed from it. Instead, he alleges that the Gothic cathedrals appeared in only one generation and were invented by “the building arm of the Knights Templars.” In reality, scholars on the nineteenth century expended enormous effort trying and failing to draw a firm line between Romanesque and Gothic, and many churches were simply classified as being transitional between the two. Georg Dehio and Gustav von Bezold wrote about it in their famous five-volume 1901 analysis of church architecture in which they traced the growth of Romanesque into Gothic. It is not new information. According to art historians, the transition took about a hundred years. Some buildings began in one style and finished in the other. Many combined elements of both. Alan Butler speaks out of his depth.
Near the end, Janet Wolter claims that so-called “Venus families” are behind major movements in history and “the goddess” is “always present” in Masonic rituals. That will be news to the Masons, I imagine. Wolter offers some more blather about his new fixation on Venus’s crescent shape, and he now argues that crescent shapes are all references, not just to the planet Venus, but to “the goddess.” The awe with which all of them speak of the “goddess” makes me think that, like Robert Graves before them, they have become enamored of an imaginary deity they wish they could worship openly. It takes no particularly deep analysis to see in their rhapsody over the imagined grace of the matriarchal mother goddess a repudiation of the patronizing elements of Judeo-Christian patriarchal society they dislike.
5/29/2020 09:39:38 am
The time could be right to start an official tax exempt Church of the Goddess. I know a number of currently out-of-work waitresses and bar tenders who would look good dressed in some type of skimpy Vestal Virgins in the service of the Goddess outfit. Would be difficult to affirm their virginal status at this point though.
5/29/2020 11:15:26 am
Sounds like they could make a lot of bread !
5/29/2020 09:41:29 am
"Butler makes an unusual claim, asserting that the builders of stone circles in Thornbury, England, were the “mathematicians” who traveled to Egypt and laid out the plans for the Giza pyramids, to be built a thousand years later"
5/29/2020 10:05:55 am
To be fair, the Vietnam War Memorial is nothing if not a wide open vagina.
Not the Come de Saint Germain
5/29/2020 10:30:46 am
"...they have become enamored of an imaginary deity they wish they could worship openly."
5/29/2020 11:07:49 am
They can worship whatever they want openly.
5/29/2020 11:54:07 am
The Two To Five Books A Day Every Day For Forty-Two Years poster made a similarly ridiculous claim about cathedrals.
5/29/2020 07:22:32 pm
A geology undergraduate degree is almost as easy as a foreign language undergraduate degree. The former is popular with jocks of the C's get Degrees mentality and the latter is the classy B's get degrees major of choice for young ladies who are actually in search of their MRS. degree.
5/30/2020 12:16:02 pm
Jason, you might want to check the settings on your Temporal Control Panel (TCP). You're getting messages from the distant past. Also might want to make sure you have the latest patches to the Stupidity Filter (SF).
5/29/2020 07:35:58 pm
It should be added that another proof that baseball is really an ancient religious ritual, is a detail of the game that can only descend from a former practice of human sacrifice. The masters of ceremony who make sure that the ritual is done in good order and in accordance with ancient canons, are called the Umpires. At various times in the game, you will hear people shout: "KILL THE UMPIRE!"
Jr. Time Lord
5/30/2020 04:06:49 pm
Gothic cathedrals are symbolic wombs. This is really not a difficult concept to comprehend. When I have time, I shall provide links to photos of tympanum, and windows of the most explicit sexual nature.
5/30/2020 08:16:49 pm
This was already covered in sufficient detail above.
Jr. Time Lord
5/31/2020 12:17:55 am
"This was already covered in sufficient detail above."
5/31/2020 08:54:04 pm
I have a complaint for the owner of this site. I don't come here for obsessive talk about clitorises. Think of your child.
6/1/2020 10:08:15 am
After reading through some of the comments referencing children my some of the members here you will welcome discussion of goddess clits.
6/1/2020 08:03:55 pm
Sadly, more nonsense from Broadmoor. Mr. Rock has the kiddy table and I have the Narrenturm. "Each building used its own value system"??? My research has uncovered the indisputable truth that ALL cathedrals are EXACTLY one cathedral in height. Each using its own value system.
Jr. Time Lord
6/2/2020 03:26:13 pm
"And "oculus" is just a fancy word for a window."
6/2/2020 06:17:18 pm
Oh God, more idiocy. "Capture sunlight"? How, precisely? "Focus sunlight in a tight narrow beam?" How, precisely? An oculus is literally a hole in a wall or a roof. Literally a window or a skylight.
Jr. Time Lord
6/5/2020 04:42:03 am
"Oh God, more idiocy. "Capture sunlight"? How, precisely? "Focus sunlight in a tight narrow beam?" How, precisely? An oculus is literally a hole in a wall or a roof. Literally a window or a skylight."
Jr. Time Lord
6/1/2020 02:33:03 am
Those offended by the female form, or under the age of 4, should NOT open any of the following links.
Jr. Time Lord
6/1/2020 11:21:45 pm
I'll just call it good. No need to waste my time searching for photos, when your audience is obviously not mature enough to handle the subject matter. I thought we were all adults here. I find it tasteless, classless, depraved, and quite disgusting to use the name of a murdered child. "Adam Walsh" was the brutally murdered child of John Walsh from "America's Most Wanted".
6/3/2020 08:40:32 am
I was born and named Adam Walsh in 1968. Do you spend much time harassing people who just so happen to have the same names as crime victims?
6/3/2020 01:49:42 pm
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Jr. Time Lord
6/5/2020 04:54:07 am
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An Over-Educated Grunt
6/1/2020 09:05:38 am
This is, to put it mildly, so stupid it’s not even wrong.
5/30/2020 09:23:43 pm
Here is an article I hadn't seen before.
5/31/2020 08:52:12 am
Wolter is constantly trespassing and vandalizing. When I contemplate that and his coffee cup degree I start to have doubts about him playing football. I'm beginning to suspect it was actually foosball.
6/1/2020 06:31:51 pm
I took a boo on the net, and it would appear Wolter was playing semi-pro ball at the ripe old age of 39 in 2000, shortly before his KRS crusade began.
6/2/2020 10:57:59 pm
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duluth-Superior_Lumberjacks if this team, little to brag about
6/3/2020 08:14:14 pm
Semi-pro is an apt current description for Wolter. Semi-pro really meaning that, as in football, he is about 3 levels down from the real pros.
6/4/2020 01:51:34 pm
Wolter played for Minnesota-Duluth's DII college team. If you know anything about DII football, you'd respect the program. Not sure how much he actually played, but he is without distinction as far as awards go (such as all-conference, etc.).
Jr. Time Lord
6/1/2020 11:12:51 pm
"Some buildings began in one style and finished in the other."
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