Jason Martell Asks His Fans to Send Me Hate Mail

4/17/2013

Ancient Aliens pundit Jason Martell is not content merely to threaten lawsuits against me. Martell mass emailed subscribers to his X-Facts.com mailing list to send me hate mail. In so doing, Martell accused me of poor research while simultaneously confusing me with Chris White, the creator of the Ancient Aliens Debunked documentary, with which I am not affiliated. Martell also compared himself to Copernicus and Galileo, suggesting that he is being persecuted for correct ideas. Below is the email Martell sent, conveniently copied by one of his fans in the message history of a nasty piece of hate mail full of vitriolic attacks on my person.

From: Jason Martell <[email protected]>
To: [redacted]
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 7:01 AM
Subject: This Guy IS Wrong - Let Him Know

Xfacts.com

Everyone who likes Ancient Aliens should send this guy an email to get a clue, he only causes negative views with his ancient aliens debunked.

All they can do is attack the people calling them names, but no real evidence against the research. I bet others along the way like Galileo, Copernicus also faced idiot comments from people of their time.

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18 Comments

John McKay link

4/17/2013 01:09:07 pm

That looks pretty close to actionable harassment to me. You should have a lawyer look at it.

Christopher Randolph

4/17/2013 05:45:14 pm

Jason -

Concurring. I think you just got yourself a little piece of that dating site money.

Also agreeing with the commenter below - contact police, sooner the better. This will even help with civil matters; judges don't take harassment claims seriously minus police reports.

Clint Knapp

4/17/2013 01:57:16 pm

Well, that escalated quickly. From a single correction comment to death threats in record time. It's really too bad you have to deal with this sort of nonsense, and you have my condolences.

The AA crowd loves to dig up the Galileo argument every time they get around to defending themselves, but like so many other areas of their argument they seem to be either misinformed or twisting the tale to suit their own purpose.

Galileo was a representative of the scientific method. His findings and theories were backed by rigorous scientific and mathematic study. His opposition, the Roman Inquisition, argued from the point of view that several biblical passages (mostly Psalms, poetic works) seemed to indicate the earth was fixed in space and could not be moved. (ex. Psalm 104:5)

Galileo's stance in defending heliocentrism was that scripture was not to be taken literally in every passage- while we see entirely the opposite in those cases in which the AA gang bother to keep texts in their original or most commonly accepted forms.

After his initial plea to the Church not to ban Copernicus' ideas, a decree was made that they were false and Galileo agreed to obey the mandate and remained well away from the controversy until the next Pope was elected and he published his "Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems" with full papal permission.

The entire persecution of this text and the reason he went to trial had arose because his character Simplicio (named after a geocentrist philosopher named Simplicius in Latin) appeared to be a fool (in Italian, simplicio can mean 'simpleton') who used some of the same words as the current Pope. In short, he went to trial over heliocentrism because he appeared to be calling the papal stance foolish. More literalism leading to misunderstanding.

In the end, Galileo was sentenced to formal imprisonment, which the next day was changed into house arrest at his villa near Florence where he spent the rest of his years doing some of his most astounding work. The harshest punishment he received was to recite a few penitential psalms once a week, which his daughter received permission to undertake in his stead.

While it's true he did die blind and in poor health, no attempts were made to keep him from medical treatment, and he was even allowed to travel into Florence to seek it out. He received visitors frequently, and by all indications simply suffered the same sort of maladies one would expect of a 77 year old man living in the seventeeth century.

Hardly the picture of the persecuted and tormented man of truth the AA crowd likes to promote, is it? If anything, they're the Inquisition in this scenario.

Jason Colavito link

4/17/2013 02:00:47 pm

If we can believe the date stamp on the email, he actually asked his fans to start spamming me several hours before he ever contacted me to complain about my article. In other words, he planned a coordinated attack from the get-go.

Clint Knapp

4/17/2013 03:11:15 pm

Good point. I missed the time stamp. The conspiracy thickens. No one will expect the AA Inquisition!

The Other J.

4/17/2013 04:30:35 pm

Are you surprised that Martell's reading of the history of Galileo or Copernicus is as superficial and inaccurate as his reading of mythology? He seems to tend to confuse the two.

Clint Knapp

4/17/2013 06:45:08 pm

Not particularly. I'd honestly be surprised if he actually researched it himself in even the most superficial manner. It's a common defense among that entire group, and Mr. Martell is likely parroting back the reference in that same perpetually-cannibalizing manner we see across the board with the AA crowd.

That he might confuse two men born 90 years apart whose lives never overlapped beyond a shared idea doesn't surprise me one bit. He does regularly confuse Sumer, Akkad, and Babylon.

Tara Jordan

4/17/2013 10:17:20 pm

Peeking at Martell`s hilarious website,I almost choked myself to death because of the sheer infantilism.The material presented is the product of a 13 yr old mindset.Nothing remotely original,the usual recycled garbage from yesteryears.

Cathleen Anderson

4/17/2013 02:59:54 pm

I also recommend an attorney, and the cops, since that kind of harassment is probably criminal in nature, not just civil.

Jim

4/17/2013 05:15:01 pm

Perhaps we should return the favor by loading up Jason Martell's inbox ([email protected]) with some lengthy, objective criticism of his hypothesis, or should I say beliefs since there is no measurable, predictive, falsifiable conclusions that can be derived from them. The poor design of his website could also benefit from some honest criticism. Just remember to keep it honest, fact-based, and classy.

To be clear to any lawyers who might find themselves involved in this matter, Jason Colavito had nothing to do with the content of this comment and is in no way responsible for suggesting that his readers email Jason Martell; furthermore, I am in no way suggesting that anybody email Jason Martell messages that are threatening, malicious, or in any way inappropriate or illegal.

Coridan Miller

4/17/2013 11:46:01 pm

To be fair, the time stamp is relative to the receiver's time zone. If Martell is on the east coast and sends at 4pm, the reader of the email in California will see it as having been received at 1pm.

Jason Colavito link

4/17/2013 11:52:01 pm

You're right. I don't know when the message was actually sent.

charlie

4/18/2013 07:21:38 am

OK, this mess just reinforces my thought that this "ancient aliens" crap has become more like a religion to these "believers". The latest crop of their terrible TV shows has shown to me, at least, that they defend their "theories" as a religion. We "must" believe what they tell us. Only "they" have the "real truth" about our distant past.
They are arrogant and uniformed. They treat humanity as a gang of idiots who could never have got to where this planet is today without the input of the "ancient aliens". Yes, humanity IS incredibly stupid. Stupid beyond belief. Don't think so? Look at the drone wars and stock piles of nuclear weapons. Those are stupid in my opinion.
That they continue to berate ALL human progress as being "alien" inspired/directed just shows to me that these clowns are trying to start an new religion and of course they, and they alone, are to be our new high priests of said religion.
Call me a sarcastic cynic, but in my 65 years on this planet, I find these morons and their damn lies to be highly insulting to any sane, rational being, human or other wise (as in cats, dolphins, etc.)

Mark Longden

4/18/2013 07:35:56 am

Go to the police, and then see if you can find a skeptical lawyer who'll do some work pro bone.

Jerimiah Butler

4/18/2013 09:12:16 am

Copernicus. Galileo. Martell.
Martell is such a joke. Keep rattling them Jason!

Phillip link

4/19/2013 05:03:19 pm

Let me start by saying that what I am about to write is childish and unrelated to Jason Martells lack of research capabilities or lack of logic skills.
I happen to catch a presentation of his a few years back at a convention and all I can remember at all about his speech was my assumption that he never took a speech class in middle school.
Im sure it had the usual dribble that Orions belt is where telephones came from, or the moon is made of cheese, I really cant remember. But what really struck me was his use and overuse of the terms, Uh, Ummm, Ah, and so forth that were clearly written on his notes because he never made eye contact with the audience.

His speech reminded me of a shy 9th grader who forgot her project notes trying to tell a classroom how to build something she only read about in her Grandmothers Encyclopedia 2 nights before.... and it counts as a test score!

I know that was mean, but look at his language skills in his email above, this guy cant expect to be taken seriously by academics. His message is nonsensical, and delivered like a juvenile.
Sorry, but if your skin is that thin, you need not be a spokesperson for crazytown.

Julia link

4/21/2013 06:28:31 am

Honestly, Jason, I don't know how you keep going with all the crap you get - I'd have retreated a long time ago! I have so much respect for anyone who can keep on ploughing through such hatred and vehemence.

I agree with many of the other commenters here - make sure you keep any threatening emails etc (as evidence) and go and speak to the police about it. Even if they can't do anything about it right now, it'll be on record that you've made the complaint, making it easier to deal with if things should escalate in the future.

Good luck! :-)

L.S

6/13/2013 11:13:50 am

What a persecution complex these folk have!

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