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Jim Marrs: Aliens Use Mitochondrial DNA to Rule the World through Rothschild Banking Family

7/23/2014

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According to an article in the Roswell Record (behind login wall), next month Ancient Aliens is going to feature the so-called Roswell Rock, a small stone engraved with two small circles within a larger circle, each containing a crescent-moon shape beside another small circle. Discovered in 2004 about seventeen miles from the alleged Roswell UFO crash site, the rock became the subject of online speculation in 2008. I’m not sure why the fresh-looking carving should be associated with aliens except that the carving resembles 1990s-era crop circle patterns. Aliens are confusing.

That’s probably why we need Jim Marrs to explain their doings to us. Marrs has a chapter in the new anthology Lost Secrets of the Gods: The Latest Evidence and Revelations on Ancient Astronauts, Precursor Cultures, and Secret Societies edited by Michael Pye and Kristen Dalley (New Page, 2014), which was released on Monday. The subject? What else: Why ancient aliens and the Jews are in league to control global finance.
Marrs asserts that religion and finance are the two “most important” methods for “controlling the human population” and therefore might well be alien inventions. He starts on an odd note, wondering why it is that science has failed to wipe out religion, which he sees as an inductive system created from an inference of divine control behind natural beauty. Science, understanding the real workings of nature, should have destroyed this naïve belief. The only way Marrs can conceive of religion surviving the onslaught of science is for religion to be the literally true account of space aliens rather than some touchy-feely spiritualism. He has a very restrictive view of faith, seeing it as a combination of proto-science, social hierarchy, and attempted business relationships with higher powers. He sees little spirituality or even imagination. Instead, it is a very concrete set of observations from which restrictive rules emerged. The reason for these rules? Oh, the aliens of course:
Rather than deal directly with the burgeoning human population, the ancient alien-gods ordained an administrative body or priesthood to pass along edicts and instruction as well as interpret policy. Once such clerics got a taste of wealth and power, they were loath to relinquish them. Religion soon evolved into a rigid structure of dogmas, catechisms, tithing, and obedience. Only after the Anunnaki appointed rulers over humanity did the concept of religion come into play.
That’s a rather declarative set of statements considering there is no textual or archaeological support for it. Where do shamans fit into this? What of cultures for which there is no evidence of a priesthood independent of kingship? What of the Jews, for whom the “Watchers” Marrs identifies with the Anunnaki were not gods but evil fallen angels? Marrs attributes the establishment of priestly religion to the time before Sumer—precisely when we don’t have evidence for a caste of priests ruling over anyone.

As for the Jews, well Marrs has an explanation for that, too:
Either through natural cataclysms or some prehistoric war, the planet, or at least the Near East, was devastated, and the ET gods withdrew from overt human contact. As the gods—the alien visitors—dropped from sight, the religions they created turned metaphysical. The concept of God evolved from a physical being to an omnipresent yet anthropomorphic supernatural entity. The elder conflicts between the ancient astronauts commandeering armies of human subjects were faithfully recorded in the Old Testament. These ancient wars became the metaphorical basis for the struggle between the new monotheistic God and his evil counterpart, Satan.
Try parsing that. What evidence is there for the devastation of the planet? How can Marrs be sure these aliens ever had a physical presence if he admits that the “faithful” recordings of their deeds occurred only after religion “turned metaphysical”? The only way to move backward from the metaphysical to the real is to assume the physical reality and then use that assumption to develop a theory of the development of religion based on the assumption—in other words, circular logic. If anything, anthropological evidence suggests that abstract nature worship preceded anthropomorphic forms of deity. The oldest image of the goddess Hera, the Greeks famously noted, was a plank of wood.

Marrs cites Paul Von Ward, a minister and reincarnation believer, to assert that the church councils of the early Christian era specifically and systematically (well, “largely”) eliminated references to “Advanced Beings” from the Bible. Yes, there’s nothing about gods, angels, or demons in the Bible—nothing about Dagon or Baal or Tammuz, or messengers of God, or God’s Sons. Heck, even the Enochian Watchers make an appearance (as fallen angels) in 2 Peter 2:4. For Marrs, however, Christians are the heroes of the story because Jesus overturned the tables of the moneychangers and thus struck the first blow against the alien-Jewish-banking conspiracy.

But this is prelude to Marrs’s complaint that “beginning with the Enlightenment and the advent of the printing press” religion declined markedly, prompting the aliens to turn to finance. The printing press was invented in 1450, and the Enlightenment began in the late 1600s. The so-called decline of religion did not occur until the nineteenth century, and even then was not as full or as complete as often depicted—and it was countered by several fiery revival movements.

Marrs prefers to rely on the work of Giza Death Star fringe author Joseph P. Farrell to argue that rulers ally themselves with religion in order to get religious blessing for what is essentially fiat currency, which he sees as imaginary money since it is not backed by precious metals—though these metals themselves were valuable in historic times only because of cultural desire for them. Farrell’s argument is a little more subtle in that he sees an early modern (maybe; the timeline is not clear) gold standard, but one that was manipulated with promissory notes whose total value exceeded that of the bullion, much like the way the total number of Gold Certificate or Silver Certificate U.S. notes exceeded the actual reserves of gold or silver. Why this is an extraterrestrial concern, or why space alien religion was necessary to generate full faith and credit in the royal notes, I cannot imagine. Aliens, as I said, are confusing. According to Farrell, the nefarious purpose was to give gold-hungry bankers control over European money supplies by allowing them to crash economies at will by contracting the money supply whenever rulers fell out of line. We shade here into the old Rothschild-Jewish-banking conspiracy. In fact, Marrs specifically identifies the Rothschilds as the prime movers in the banking conspiracy and later claims them as the direct DNA heirs of the space aliens. And did the alien-Jewish bankers simply not care about whole continents that lacked European-style finances, such as the Americas, Africa, and much of Asia, before European colonization?

Marrs never explains why the Jewish bankers are in league with aliens, or how the aliens are involved in what seems to be an entirely human economic system. Instead, he goes off on a rant about how the P.C. police are trying to make the Civil War all about black people instead of the real cause of the war: Jewish bankers. “The War Between the States was fought more over economics than slavery, despite how modern political correctness aims to convince otherwise,” he said, noting that the heroic Confederate Knights of the Golden Circle were in league with “Nathan Rothschild, who controlled the Bank of England.” He supports this with a spurious quotation from Otto von Bismarck drawn from anti-Semitic literature, specifically the 1926 book Secret World Government by Count Cherep-Spiridovich, who believed that the Jews assassinated Abraham Lincoln.

Jim Marrs, if not actually anti-Semitic and racist himself, is happy to use anti-Semitic and racist works to support his own. He does not actually use the phrase Jewish bankers, but the only bankers he ever discusses are Jews, ancient or modern, going back to the moneychangers at the Temple and running through the Rothschilds.

From here, Marrs enters into paranoid rants about the evils of fiat currency, how Jewish bankers fomented the Russian Revolution, and how the grand plan of the bankers was to create socialist East and a capitalist West. (Again, Africa, Asia, and South America are not important or relevant to the alien-Jewish conspiracy, containing only half the world’s population.) Marrs also credits the same Jewish banking conspiracy with installing Hitler in power to check the spread of communism—the same communism he just asserted that they plotted to install in Russia!

Marrs mistakenly reports that Hitler was “elected” chancellor of Germany in 1933. He was actually appointed chancellor as part of a political compromise. Marrs then claims that Hitler’s “fatal error” was in opposing banking interests by issuing new reichsmarks that weren’t backed by international financial controls. He supports this with another possibly apocryphal quotation, this time from Winston Churchill, who allegedly said “You must understand that this war is not against Hitler or National Socialism, but against the strength of the German people, which is to be smashed once and for all…” Not only is the quotation a secondhand memory published in 1950 of something Churchill supposedly said a decade earlier, Marrs goes farther and inserts in brackets the word “economic” before strength, something not in any way implied by Churchill’s supposed comments. Even if this quotation is genuine, on the face of it the line refers to Germany’s historic role as the aggressor upsetting the balance of power on the Continent.

Marrs claims that the banking elite used the Nazis to develop mind control, nuclear weapons, and other control mechanisms for their global power games. He follows standard right wing conspiracy theories in seeing many different forms of evil among the agencies of the American government that supposedly took over Nazi discoveries for nefarious purposes. At no time does he mention anything about aliens; they were here only to lure the innocent into a paranoid web of anti-Semitic fantasies about a global banking elite that secretly controls America.

Citing David Icke (!), Marrs believes that U.S. presidential elections are decided by which candidate has the greatest European royal lineage, and that the Bush family (of course) are the most royal of all. Marrs notes that Barack Obama (whom he cites, as most right wing commentators do, by his full three-part name) must be part of the conspiracy as well because he is the eighth cousin of Dick Cheney and therefore a distant member of the secret alien bloodline of Jewish bankers! And lest you think I am imposing a Jewish reading on what is not Jewish, Marrs explicitly states that all of the royal families are tied together through the special genes of the Jewish Rothschild family, who descend, he says, from the Trojan hero Aeneas and thus from the goddess Venus, a space alien. He cites “sources” (by which he means anti-Semitic literature) which claim that the Rothschilds are descendants of King Nimrod, of Noachian lineage.

As for how this bloodline is perpetuated, you have to hear it in his own words:
While conventional history has concentrated on the male descendants of these bloodlines, through the centuries the bloodline actually has been passed through the mitochondrial DNA of the females. While the passing of the true bloodline has primarily been done through incest and intermarrying, as practiced by most of history’s rulers, an extended network of relations also has been created through concubines, mistresses, slaves, hired help, and even rape.
You know what else is conventionally passed through the female line? Judaism. Coincidence? I bet Jim Marrs doesn’t think so. And by what method does alien-Jewish banking conspiracy activate through mitochondrial DNA? What mechanism does he see that lets mitochondria take over cells and activate gold lust? But seriously: incest and rape to purposely spread mitochondrial DNA? Apparently Marrs has been watching too much Game of Thrones and thinks that the Lannisters are really Jewish space alien. Hmm… They are ultra-wealthy bankers who control the Seven Kingdoms’ finances and secretly placed their incestuous heirs on the Iron Throne… My God, it’s really Rothschild propaganda! Is George R. R. Martin part of the Rothschild-Habsburg-Romanov-Bush-Cheney-Obama family?

Marrs concludes by asserting that the nefarious actions of the bankers are so horrifying that they could not be the result of human action. Instead, he believes that banking and religion—which, I remind you, he believes is a form of social and mind control—both originated from outer space. Bad things happen not because of bad people but because of space aliens.
44 Comments
Only Me
7/23/2014 06:11:44 am

Is Marrs aware there is medical treatment to help him with what ails him?

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charlie
7/23/2014 01:26:01 pm

Only Me,
I don't know is he is aware of it, but man he sure DOES need serious medical/mental health intervention, soon.

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Christine Erikson link
7/27/2014 05:02:40 am

I don't think there is any treatment. Medicines would just distract his mind a bit make him less functional at spreading bullshit.

I can't stand Marrs, he relies totally on slipshod sources and then Farrell relies on him as a source.....Farrell is brilliant but has a few blind spots. One is clearly evident, in that he can't see the sin implicitly stated in the motives for building the tower of babel, he says no sin is addressed only that they can do a lot of stuff with this.

But they said they wanted to do this to make a name for themselves and be not scattered on the earth. What does that tell you? pride and ambition were the drivers, and if this WAS high technology (and the description of one ancient writer about the fallen tower still around sounds more like a giant antenna pole than a regular tower, the bricks must have been for the housing at the base) then you don't want it in the hands of such motivated people.

Farrell sees the obvious evil in the Nazis and the undesirability of weird high tech in their hands or in other evil hands, but can't see that this pride and vainglory thing is the driver behind most evil incl. the Nazi kind.

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lurkster
7/23/2014 06:38:40 am

"Marrs cites Paul Von Ward, a minister and reincarnation believer, to assert that the church councils of the early Christian era specifically and systematically (well, “largely”) eliminated references to 'Advanced Beings' from the Bible."

Good grief! This concept is straight out of Scientology's fringe history publications. Except their 'Advanced Beings' are Scientologists who achieve superpowers via tons of cash spent on "OT" levels rather than aliens. Unless of you count a "thetan" who fits their definition of a "big being" as an alien. (Hail Xenu!)

Seriously though, I kid not. The latest trend Jason has been tracking with the ancient alien crowd moving into more spiritual awareness woo has been pimped before, spanning back several decades, to a closed audience within the Church Scientology.

There is a long-term series of fringe-history feature articles from the Church of Scientology's "Advance! Magazine" dating back to the1970s called "The spiritual history of Man." These articles hit many of the same topics, retold with an eerily similar fringe-y spin, except the foregone conclusion supports the concept that Operating Thetan (OT) powers are the secret behind unexplained history instead of aliens.

If you’re interested in seeing this material Jason (either for morbid-curiosity comparison sake or to document a seldom seen chapter of fringe history that builds on your excellent "Theosophy, Scientology and Ancient Aliens" article from 2012), drop me an email. With a little time and effort, I can setup a fileshare archive for you with 30-40 yrs worth of "Advance! Magazine" excerpts that include related cover art, issue TOC and "Spiritual History of Man" feature story. The overlap of topics with stuff you have already covered extensively on this blog (in both general fringe history and ancient alien spheres) will likely surprise you if not provide ample fodder for endless amusement.

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666
7/23/2014 06:48:44 am

Scientology became recognized as a tax-exempt religious organization in 1957




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EP
7/23/2014 10:17:17 am

I think Scientology publications are extremely easy to find on the internet...

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Clinton johnson link
7/23/2016 12:54:44 am

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spookyparadigm
7/23/2014 06:52:37 am

From a historical perspective, I understand why there is a history of nutbar fringe theorists in America being racist.

But I don't get their obsession with gold. I know there has always been a persistent element of the gold standard, which reached a peak in the late 19th century. But the pathological hold it seems to have on the audience of Beck, Paul, and Jones, and how it works into their mythologies ala this or Sitchin, I don't get it.

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Not the Comte de Saint Germain
7/23/2014 07:17:15 am

With Glenn Beck and Ron Paul, it's fairly straightforward. The age-old popular appeal of hard currency combines in their minds with a desire to escape evil inflationary Keynesianism. I can't say why gold is so appealing to the alien-conspiracy types, except that Sitchin came up with the idea. As Jason has so often pointed out, fringe historians habitually reuse each other's ideas, so once the notion that aliens are obsessed with gold had entered the fringe echo chamber, it kept reverberating there. And thanks to the overlap between the fringe history crowd and libertarian populism, the two ideas about gold were bound to meet eventually.

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EP
7/23/2014 10:26:47 am

(In gruff, 2011 Harrison Ford vice) What are they going to do with it? Buy something?!

Clint Knapp
7/23/2014 12:12:06 pm

Couldn't be because they get sponsorship cash from gold buyer/seller outfits. Nope. Not at all...

But let's be frank; all currency is fiat currency. We agree to base it on a good's value, but we also agree on the value of that good based on the currency of choice. It's all arbitrary value in the long run. Gold, silver, pick your metal. It's still a value devised for no real purpose other than assigning a little order to the chaos of trading goods.

Of course, Marrs and company don't like to consider this. That would mean their big ideological conflicts are just smoke and mirrors. After all, they're making money telling you the banks are bad. The banks they're keeping the bulk of their money in.

Don't forget, one of the earliest currencies on record comes from Sumer- the very heart of alien-overlord-fringedom- where we find clay tokens marked by goods producers to denote how much of their product is owed to the holder of the token. If Sumer can develop currency that has nothing to do with gold, how exactly does that factor into the alien agenda that allegedly starts there?

If controlling us through currency is the Jewish-Alien-Bankster goal, they're doing a horrible job. Obviously all the inbreeding has made our alien-hybrid-overlords idiots.

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Clint Knapp
7/23/2014 12:27:17 pm

Correction:
I cannot say for certain that Jim Marrs, Glenn Beck, or any other such luminaries of the anti-alienjewishbanker community actually keep their money in banks. It is entirely possible that they squirrel it away in their mattresses or bury as nickels in PVC pipes in the yard.

spookyparadigm
7/23/2014 03:56:48 pm

Oh, I get that Beck and Jones have cashed in with their gold biz. What I don't understand is why it's so easy to detect a follower of Paul or Beck or Jones due to the gold fixation, and why it so seamlessly mixes with conspiracy and UFO lore of a certain brand. I'm wondering if there is some kind of specific deep cultural division here that it serves to mark. I know gold standard was an issue with the populists a century ago, but if that's still what is driving this, that's ridiculous.

Clint Knapp
7/23/2014 04:57:46 pm

In a simpler world I'd just blame Coast to Coast AM and call it a day. It's such a giant melting pot of fringe ideas that new guests are appearing all the time who claim their primary influences were people they heard on the show! If you listen to enough of it you'll hear everything. Aliens, gold hoarding, survivalism, psychic powers, demonic possessions, etc... etc... etc...

Radio is free and easy to get access to, they're on over 500 stations in the US alone and have been running for thirty years. It seems easy to point to C2CAM as a primary influence for perpetuating the growth and intermingling of these ideas, but sadly it can't be the only culprit. Right-wing conspiracy radio is hardly something Art Bell invented; just popularized.

The larger cultural division almost has to be one of education. It's easy to hook undereducated people with sensationalist ideas. Tell them the academics are a bunch of hoity-toity losers lying to them to keep them down, mix in a little political rage and appeal to the perceived loss of their cultural identity, stir thoroughly, add eggs (preferably harvested from abductees and inseminated with Grey DNA!), and voila.

Case in point; Glenn Beck apparently has no formal education beyond a high school diploma. He's also a member of the Church of Latter Day Saints- an organization not exactly known for its historical good senses.

Jones actually attended community college, but admits to having discovered conspiracy culture as a teen. We could just throw darts at a cast list for Ancient Aliens and probably hit a college drop-out every other throw (and get bonus points for hitting former cult members!).

Who knows. Maybe they're all right and the real joke is that everyone who ever said they were abducted really was. Maybe they're all part of an alien experiment to make humans dumber and the only people who believe them are people who were also part of the experiment bloodline. Damn space Templars.

Clint Knapp
7/23/2014 05:53:46 pm

Very brief aside, but somewhat in step with that whole education rant...

Playing catchup on C2C at the moment, listening to the July 16th episode. We're often complaining the fringe folks don't do much with blaming the Annunaki for European invention, but Marshal Klarfeld would like you to know that they built the Roman aqueducts and the Colosseum, according to his new book "Mysteries of Alien Technology" which seems to be part four of his "The Annunaki Were Here!" series, though not directly titled as such.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled dismay.

EP
7/23/2014 07:49:17 pm

Don't forget, one of the earliest currencies on record comes from "Sumer- the very heart of alien-overlord-fringedom- where we find clay tokens marked by goods producers to denote how much of their product is owed to the holder of the token. If Sumer can develop currency that has nothing to do with gold, how exactly does that factor into the alien agenda that allegedly starts there?"

This is closer to shares or promissory notes than to currency. Currency, pretty much by definition, can't have its circulation restricted to specific goods of specific individuals.

Paul Cargile
7/24/2014 02:59:29 am

Value is based on labor, both physical and mental.

It took lots of labor to extract a small amount of gold from veins in rock. Rarity plus difficulty in attainment lent to its high value.

PaulN. link
7/24/2014 09:52:57 am

The Sumerian clay tokens you refer to were not currency, rather they tokens of account.
The tokens would be made in the shapes of cows, sheep, sheafs of grain, and so on. When two merchants would agree on the purchase or transfer of goods to be delivered over a specified time, the relating tokens (each token would represent one item) would be sealed in a clay ball. At the specified time the clay ball would be broken open and the goods would be delivered according to the representative tokens. The problem, of course, is that if a question or dispute arose regarding the agreement the only way to ascertain what the agreement entailed was to break the clay ball open, thus breaking the contract.
To prevent this from happening, they started inscribing on the surface of the clay ball pictures of the tokens that were inside. It was not long after this, that it was realized that you did not need the tokens or the clay balls anymore if you just inscribed pictographs of the tokens on a clay tablet. It would seem that accounting and record keeping were the oldest reasons for a system of writing.

PaulN. link
7/24/2014 10:53:58 am

Regarding currency (or money if you prefer), yes it is all technically fiat in that it is based on faith that the items being used have some accepted value. Money is a medium of exchange based on the notion that you can get x-amount of goods for x-amount of currency. It does not matter if it is gold&silver; or wooden nickles, leather dollars, bands of wampum, cowrie shells, cacao beans, knife money, or what have you.
The earliest known coins date to the mid-7th century BCE. These were minted in the former kingdom of Lydia. At first merchants, and later the kings of Lydia, stamped their mark on lumps of electrum (a naturally occurring mix of gold and silver) as a guarantee of weight and purity. This allowed the easy exchange of one item in exchange for many different items in many different places.

An Over-Educated Grunt
7/23/2014 07:50:24 am

That must by why all of the compromises leading up to the American Civil War were about the expansion of fiat currency into Kansas and Missouri and so on.

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spookyparadigm
7/23/2014 10:47:40 am

You can probably find a NeoSecesh that will argue that.

Though whether like Marrs they'll be on about the "international bankers" and aliens, not so sure.

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An Over-Educated Grunt
7/23/2014 11:50:11 am

Yeah, given that the South was quite willing to force a Federal fugitive-slave law based on the Commerce Clause, not a whole lot of sympathy for the entire "states' rights" argument. Plus "how DARE you oppress me by telling me I can't oppress someone else!" is a weak argument, and all of the arguments that the states, or even counties, are the supreme law of the land rest on weak legal underpinnings and rely on extensive solipsism to justify themselves. It's like your arm seceding: once it's attached, detaching is a whole lot harder.

OttoZ
7/23/2014 11:05:30 am

I may be wrong, and I don't have the time or the resources to look it up right now (plus I'm sick as a dog), but I don't think Hitler created the new Reichmark; that was done just before he came to power by government economists revaluing the mark based on the real estate value of the land of Germany. It worked and the Nazis were happy to take credit for it.

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EP
7/23/2014 11:14:44 am

The Reichsmark was created almost 10 years before Hitler coming to power. It was taken off the gold standard "just" before Hitler came to power - not sure if that's what you're talking about.

I suspect that Marrs is confusing the Reichsmark with Mefo bills.

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EP
7/23/2014 11:15:15 am

The Reichsmark was created almost 10 years before Hitler coming to power. It was taken off the gold standard "just" before Hitler came to power - not sure if that's what you're talking about.

I suspect that Marrs is confusing the Reichsmark with Mefo bills.

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666
7/23/2014 01:23:24 pm

Does Jim Marrs want to start the Fourth Reich?
Answer: NO HE DOES NOT

Do his theories about Aliens and Jewish Bankers show that he is Racist?
Answer: NO

HOW MANY TIMES MUST THIS BE REPEATED - THAT THOSE WHO MAKE SUCH CLAIMS AND THEORIES ARE NOT RACISTS THEMSELVES

WHY IS THIS SO DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND

An Over-Educated Grunt
7/23/2014 01:28:50 pm

How are you so absolutely certain that he doesn't want to start the Fourth Reich? What makes you so bold that you can say that with such vehemence, O ye of perfect neutrality and no interest?

EP
7/23/2014 01:46:13 pm

666, why is your outburst a comment on my comment about an issue in the history of economics that has nothing to do with whether Jim Marr is a racist?

Also, your reasoning is analogous to someone arguing:
"The Jews drink blood of Christian children as part of their religious rituals. I'm not racist against them, I'm just making an anthropological observation. Also, the Holocaust didn't happen, but that's just my historical theory, which doesn't in any way reflect on my opinion of the Jews."

If you seriously doubt that someone who believes that a genetically corrupt, gold-obsessed Jewish cabal is controlling the world behind the scenes (and cites fringe racist authors a lot) is NOT racist, then your concept of racism is probably defective.

EP
7/23/2014 01:47:50 pm

(sorry, ignore the "NOT" - an editing fail on my part)

Pacal
7/24/2014 03:03:23 am

666 - Well for one thing a great many of the people who make such claims are racists, along with being idiotic. Also accepting that in his heart of hearts Jim Marrs is not racist still doesn't mean he isn't spouting off racist bilge along with utter nonsense. Jim Marrs possible purity of heart doesn't change that at all.

Only Me
7/24/2014 07:31:04 am

Ah, yes.

When you're a total 100% neutral whose only "agenda" is objectivity, it always helps to make your case by posting a comment suggesting you are intimately knowledgeable of someone's motives and innermost thoughts...with *conviction*. Nothing subjective here.

It also helps when you practice the philosophy, "LET'S SEE IF YOU UNDERSTAND BETTER IF I SCREAM IT!"

Clint Knapp
7/23/2014 01:48:42 pm

To the first topic, I can only shake my head sadly. The "carving" is clearly raised from the surface of the "rock", meaning one would have had to strip away an entire layer of stone all the way around to make it work. Possible, sure. Probable, not really.

It looks like a lump of clay someone took a stylus to and left to dry in the sun. Every picture of the rock I can find online shows a different shade and lighting, so it's impossible to tell for sure, but the cracking on the smooth, raised surfaces differs as well.

I'd wager any "strange magnetic properties" are the result of a magnet stuffed inside the clay.

Otherwise, what? Aliens stranded after the crash got bored of calling for home and running from the military, took their special sound/laser/mind-power tools and carved a two-inch rock in the hopes someone would find it and discover the key to the universe? UFOlogy is getting really lazy.

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Zach
7/23/2014 01:58:44 pm

Fringe authors and pseudo scientists have always been lazy when it comes to their "theories" and their "evidence."

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Titus pullo
7/24/2014 10:55:44 am

Boy I never thought we would get into monetary debates on Jason's page but....gold is money according to Jp Morgan all else is credit. Actually today there really isn't a definition of money, is it reserve notes, or checking accounts, electronic debit accounts? Money is usually decided by the marketplace. Historically govts tend not to like this as direct taxation is a threat to their power so they tend to pass legal tender laws and eventually creat a currency that is expandable based on their needs. Obviously as they do this the value of the existing savings or money goes down, although having the reserve currency like we do with nations that will absorb our inflation dies help in keeping the purchasing power. The gold standard, and there were many variations, was used to curb the ability if govts to buy votes without actually directly paying for them. For international trade a gold standard created the conditions for fair trade and stopped each nation trying to devalue its currency to benefit powerful exporters. Backing a currency by gold or even a basket of marketable assets like Germany did to break its hyperinflation has its benefits but limits govt actions. So chose your poison as they say, a lot of govt goodies and lower wage growth and purchasing power or higher wage growth and less social net but less massive bubbles. I'm of the austrian school, economic growth should be slow and steady.

Fr. Jack Ashcraft link
7/23/2014 01:52:27 pm

I'm finding that my own research regarding fringe thinkers coincides with yours Mr. Colavito, in that we both recognize a common thread of racial thinking as an undercurrent. Thank you for providing yet another example.

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Gary
7/24/2014 12:26:00 am

To sum up: The Goddess Venus traveled light years through space so that she could make us all pay retail.

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Dave Lewis
7/24/2014 09:26:32 am

I've heard Jim Marrs a few times on Coast to Coast AM. I can't stand to listen to him any more because he is so smug in his comments to people who don't drink his koolade. My feeling is he doesn't really believe his schtick, he's just in it for the money. I may be totally wrong but I think the folks who really believe what they are putting out there don't have the slick, practiced delivery of guys like Jim Marrs.

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spookyparadigm
7/24/2014 11:19:01 am

I think some of the practiced ones are sincere. I thought the same as you about Stan Friedman, until I met him. I think he's wrong, but he's sincere. Note that he also hasn't changed his content or opinion other than to occasionally elaborate on it.

Whereas I agree with you about Marrs, in part because his material seems to chase the audience. On the plus side, while Marrs is doing harm through repetition, the only traction he seems to have really gotten is for his JFK book because it inspired the Stone movie, and that's a LONG time ago.

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Titus pullo
7/24/2014 10:41:54 am

Yes that explains it. No human could have come up with the idea of fractional reserve banking and a central bank. I'm no supporter of central banks for reasons Von mises and Hayek and others, many jewish, have outlined but in some ways only a human mind could come up with the idea of fiat currency as statist as that is. Sorry no aliens at the fed but man that would make a great book.

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BillUSA
7/25/2014 05:23:33 pm

What bunk! So we humans are just mindless automatons put here to carry out acts for the entertainment of vicarious aliens, right?

I mean bugs can figure out how to construct ventilated caverns but we need ET's to teach us how to stack rocks.

Religion and Spirituality are cousins which came into being to fill a void, or to provide meaning to existence. What they have grown into is slightly more elaborate, but nothing fundamental about their nature has changed. Some people manage to embrace them and remain scientific about life.

I'm one of them. I'm not religious at all except to say that as a result of my 12-step program I have developed a relationship with a higher power that remains unnamed and undefined. It's just some nebulous concept that I assume to be in greater control of things than I am. I suppose the literature can be called Scripture but I don't like to start down that road lest it complicates a simple program.

And that's the gist of it. To keep me from thinking that I am in control. It's kept me clean for 10 years straight and I ain't looking to change it. But it does provide me with some insight as to why some folks need religion or spirituality in their lives. An imaginary shepherd to keep me from straying afar is what I need.

But, again, I don't attribute anything of the Universe (or Multiverse) to nonsensical notions about manipulative aliens who have nothing better to do than stay away from a planet and species they have troubled themselves to create and control.

The bozo's who write about such rubbish are just fiction writers trying to make a buck. The trouble is, they influence the belief systems of folks who just never got a grip on science.

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Dm
8/16/2014 09:02:14 pm

Religion is a control mechanism. So is the the financial system along with media and entertainment, government and the education system. Whether you choose to believe that or not does not change the fact that it is true. The issue I have is that history is so distorted and manipulated that it cannot be relied on as a basis of fact. One can make an argument on just about any idea or ideal when one picks and chooses his or her story. Therefore, why does one need to argue which version is true? Divisive talk is a control mechanism. It keeps us arguing and that creates the idea that we are all separate when we are not. Who cares who created these control mechanisms? I say we just put an end to them.

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Zey
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Agreed

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How the fuck did I get here?

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wewlad
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Because you're a faggot

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    • Collection: UFOs >
      • Alien Abduction at the Outer Limits
      • Aliens and Anal Probes
      • Ultra-Terrestrials and UFOs
      • Rebels, Queers, and Aliens
    • Scholomance: The Devil's School
    • Prehistory of Chupacabra
    • The Templars, the Holy Grail, & Henry Sinclair
    • Magicians of the Gods Review
    • The Curse of the Pharaohs
    • The Antediluvian Pyramid Myth
    • Whitewashing American Prehistory
    • James Dean's Cursed Porsche
  • The Library
    • Ancient Mysteries >
      • Ancient Texts >
        • Mesopotamian Texts >
          • Atrahasis Epic
          • Epic of Gilgamesh
          • Kutha Creation Legend
          • Babylonian Creation Myth
          • Descent of Ishtar
          • Berossus
          • Comparison of Antediluvian Histories
        • Egyptian Texts >
          • The Shipwrecked Sailor
          • Dream Stela of Thutmose IV
          • The Papyrus of Ani
          • Classical Accounts of the Pyramids
          • Inventory Stela
          • Manetho
          • Eratosthenes' King List
          • The Story of Setna
          • Leon of Pella
          • Diodorus on Egyptian History
          • On Isis and Osiris
          • Famine Stela
          • Old Egyptian Chronicle
          • The Book of Sothis
          • Horapollo
          • Al-Maqrizi's King List
        • Teshub and the Dragon
        • Hermetica >
          • The Three Hermeses
          • Kore Kosmou
          • Corpus Hermeticum
          • The Asclepius
          • The Emerald Tablet
          • Hermetic Fragments
          • Prologue to the Kyranides
          • The Secret of Creation
          • Ancient Alphabets Explained
          • Prologue to Ibn Umayl's Silvery Water
          • Book of the 24 Philosophers
          • Aurora of the Philosophers
        • Hesiod's Theogony
        • Periplus of Hanno
        • Ctesias' Indica
        • Sanchuniathon
        • Sima Qian
        • Syncellus's Enoch Fragments
        • The Book of Enoch
        • Slavonic Enoch
        • Sepher Yetzirah
        • Tacitus' Germania
        • De Dea Syria
        • Aelian's Various Histories
        • Julius Africanus' Chronography
        • Eusebius' Chronicle
        • Chinese Accounts of Rome
        • Ancient Chinese Automaton
        • The Orphic Argonautica
        • Fragments of Panodorus
        • Annianus on the Watchers
        • The Watchers and Antediluvian Wisdom
      • Medieval Texts >
        • Medieval Legends of Ancient Egypt >
          • Medieval Pyramid Lore
          • John Malalas on Ancient Egypt
          • Fragments of Abenephius
          • Akhbar al-zaman
          • Ibrahim ibn Wasif Shah
          • Murtada ibn al-‘Afif
          • Al-Maqrizi on the Pyramids
          • Al-Suyuti on the Pyramids
        • The Hunt for Noah's Ark
        • Isidore of Seville
        • Book of Liang: Fusang
        • Agobard on Magonia
        • Book of Thousands
        • Voyage of Saint Brendan
        • Power of Art and of Nature
        • Travels of Sir John Mandeville
        • Yazidi Revelation and Black Book
        • Al-Biruni on the Great Flood
        • Voyage of the Zeno Brothers
        • The Kensington Runestone (Hoax)
        • Islamic Discovery of America
        • The Aztec Creation Myth
      • Lost Civilizations >
        • Atlantis >
          • Plato's Atlantis Dialogues >
            • Timaeus
            • Critias
          • Fragments on Atlantis
          • Panchaea: The Other Atlantis
          • Eumalos on Atlantis (Hoax)
          • Gómara on Atlantis
          • Sardinia and Atlantis
          • Santorini and Atlantis
          • The Mound Builders and Atlantis
          • Donnelly's Atlantis
          • Atlantis in Morocco
          • Atlantis and the Sea Peoples
          • W. Scott-Elliot >
            • The Story of Atlantis
            • The Lost Lemuria
          • The Lost Atlantis
          • Atlantis in Africa
          • How I Found Atlantis (Hoax)
          • Termier on Atlantis
          • The Critias and Minoan Crete
          • Rebuttal to Termier
          • Further Responses to Termier
          • Flinders Petrie on Atlantis
        • Lost Cities >
          • Miscellaneous Lost Cities
          • The Seven Cities
          • The Lost City of Paititi
          • Manuscript 512
          • The Idolatrous City of Iximaya (Hoax)
          • The 1885 Moberly Lost City Hoax
          • The Elephants of Paredon (Hoax)
        • OOPARTs
        • Oronteus Finaeus Antarctica Map
        • Caucasians in Panama
        • Jefferson's Excavation
        • Fictitious Discoveries in America
        • Against Diffusionism
        • Tunnels Under Peru
        • The Parahyba Inscription (Hoax)
        • Mound Builders
        • Gunung Padang
        • Tales of Enchanted Islands
        • The 1907 Ancient World Map Hoax
        • The 1909 Grand Canyon Hoax
        • The Interglacial Period
        • Solving Oak Island
      • Religious Conspiracies >
        • Pantera, Father of Jesus?
        • Toledot Yeshu
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        • Testimony of Jean de Châlons
        • Rosslyn Chapel and the 'Prentice's Pillar
        • The Many Wives of Jesus
        • Templar Infiltration of Labor
        • Louis Martin & the Holy Bloodline
        • The Life of St. Issa (Hoax)
        • On the Person of Jesus Christ
      • Giants in the Earth >
        • Fossil Origins of Myths >
          • Fossil Teeth and Bones of Elephants
          • Fossil Elephants
          • Fossil Bones of Teutobochus
          • Fossil Mammoths and Giants
          • Giants' Bones Dug Out of the Earth
          • Fossils and the Supernatural
          • Fossils, Myth, and Pseudo-History
          • Man During the Stone Age
          • Fossil Bones and Giants
          • American Elephant Myths
          • The Mammoth and the Flood
          • Fossils and Myth
          • Fossil Origin of the Cyclops
          • Mastodon, Mammoth, and Man
        • Fragments on Giants
        • Manichaean Book of Giants
        • Geoffrey on British Giants
        • Alfonso X's Hermetic History of Giants
        • Boccaccio and the Fossil 'Giant'
        • Book of Howth
        • Purchas His Pilgrimage
        • Edmond Temple's 1827 Giant Investigation
        • The Giants of Sardinia
        • Giants and the Sons of God
        • The Magnetism of Evil
        • Tertiary Giants
        • Smithsonian Giant Reports
        • Early American Giants
        • The Giant of Coahuila
        • Jewish Encyclopedia on Giants
        • Index of Giants
        • Newspaper Accounts of Giants
        • Lanier's A Book of Giants
      • Science and History >
        • Halley on Noah's Comet
        • The Newport Tower
        • Iron: The Stone from Heaven
        • Ararat and the Ark
        • Pyramid Facts and Fancies
        • Argonauts before Homer
        • The Deluge
        • Crown Prince Rudolf on the Pyramids
        • Old Mythology in New Apparel
        • Blavatsky on Dinosaurs
        • Teddy Roosevelt on Bigfoot
        • Devil Worship in France
        • Maspero's Review of Akhbar al-zaman
        • The Holy Grail as Lucifer's Crown Jewel
        • The Mutinous Sea
        • The Rock Wall of Rockwall
        • Fabulous Zoology
        • The Origins of Talos
        • Mexican Mythology
        • Chinese Pyramids
        • Maqrizi's Names of the Pharaohs
      • Extreme History >
        • Roman Empire Hoax
        • American Antiquities
        • American Cataclysms
        • England, the Remnant of Judah
        • Historical Chronology of the Mexicans
        • Maspero on the Predynastic Sphinx
        • Vestiges of the Mayas
        • Ragnarok: The Age of Fire and Gravel
        • Origins of the Egyptian People
        • The Secret Doctrine >
          • Volume 1: Cosmogenesis
          • Volume 2: Anthropogenesis
        • Phoenicians in America
        • The Electric Ark
        • Traces of European Influence
        • Prince Henry Sinclair
        • Pyramid Prophecies
        • Templars of Ancient Mexico
        • Chronology and the "Riddle of the Sphinx"
        • The Faith of Ancient Egypt
        • Spirit of the Hour in Archaeology
        • Book of the Damned
        • Great Pyramid As Noah's Ark
        • Richard Shaver's Proofs
    • Alien Encounters >
      • US Government Ancient Astronaut Files >
        • Fortean Society and Columbus
        • Inquiry into Shaver and Palmer
        • The Skyfort Document
        • Whirling Wheels
        • Denver Ancient Astronaut Lecture
        • Soviet Search for Lemuria
        • Visitors from Outer Space
        • Unidentified Flying Objects (Abstract)
        • "Flying Saucers"? They're a Myth
        • UFO Hypothesis Survival Questions
        • Air Force Academy UFO Textbook
        • The Condon Report on Ancient Astronauts
        • Atlantis Discovery Telegrams
        • Ancient Astronaut Society Telegram
        • Noah's Ark Cables
        • The Von Daniken Letter
        • CIA Psychic Probe of Ancient Mars
        • Scott Wolter Lawsuit
        • UFOs in Ancient China
        • CIA Report on Noah's Ark
        • CIA Noah's Ark Memos
        • Congressional Ancient Aliens Testimony
        • Ancient Astronaut and Nibiru Email
        • Congressional Ancient Mars Hearing
        • House UFO Hearing
      • Ancient Extraterrestrials >
        • Premodern UFO Sightings
        • The Moon Hoax
        • Inhabitants of Other Planets
        • Blavatsky on Ancient Astronauts
        • The Stanzas of Dzyan (Hoax)
        • Aerolites and Religion
        • What Is Theosophy?
        • Plane of Ether
        • The Adepts from Venus
      • A Message from Mars
      • Saucer Mystery Solved?
      • Orville Wright on UFOs
      • Interdimensional Flying Saucers
      • Flying Saucers Are Real
      • Report on UFOs
    • The Supernatural >
      • The Devils of Loudun
      • Sublime and Beautiful
      • Voltaire on Vampires
      • Demonology and Witchcraft
      • Thaumaturgia
      • Bulgarian Vampires
      • Religion and Evolution
      • Transylvanian Superstitions
      • Defining a Zombie
      • Dread of the Supernatural
      • Vampires
      • Werewolves and Vampires and Ghouls
      • Science and Fairy Stories
      • The Cursed Car
    • Classic Fiction >
      • Lucian's True History
      • Some Words with a Mummy
      • The Coming Race
      • King Solomon's Mines
      • An Inhabitant of Carcosa
      • The Xipéhuz
      • Lot No. 249
      • The Novel of the Black Seal
      • The Island of Doctor Moreau
      • Pharaoh's Curse
      • Edison's Conquest of Mars
      • The Lost Continent
      • Count Magnus
      • The Mysterious Stranger
      • The Wendigo
      • Sredni Vashtar
      • The Lost World
      • The Red One
      • H. P. Lovecraft >
        • Dagon
        • The Call of Cthulhu
        • History of the Necronomicon
        • At the Mountains of Madness
        • Lovecraft's Library in 1932
      • The Skeptical Poltergeist
      • The Corpse on the Grating
      • The Second Satellite
      • Queen of the Black Coast
      • A Martian Odyssey
    • Classic Genre Movies
    • Miscellaneous Documents >
      • The Balloon-Hoax
      • A Problem in Greek Ethics
      • The Migration of Symbols
      • The Gospel of Intensity
      • De Profundis
      • The Life and Death of Crown Prince Rudolf
      • The Bathtub Hoax
      • Crown Prince Rudolf's Letters
      • Position of Viking Women
      • Employment of Homosexuals
      • James Dean's Scrapbook
      • James Dean's Love Letters
      • The Amazing James Dean Hoax!
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