We seem to have entered a time when fantasy has completely replaced reality, and it is rather disconcerting. History itself is starting to bend to the will of the propagandists. It was genuinely surprising to hear White House Chief of Staff John Kelly and press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders yesterday praising Robert E. Lee for his “accomplishments” and suggesting that “compromise” could have prevented the Civil War. How, precisely, does one compromise over the question of whether some people deserve to own others? Whether intentional or not, such comments suggest that in their heart of hearts Kelly and the Trump Administration consider the very humanity of African Americans to be negotiable, and don’t really think about slavery or legally enforced segregation as a moral evil as much as an inconvenience. This is still shocking because Robert E. Lee himself once said “that slavery as an institution, is a moral & political evil,” though he added that it was “necessary” for the “instruction” of the racially inferior.
Meanwhile, many of you will have already seen that over the weekend former television personality Scott F. Wolter posted a blog entry asking whether a curvilinear carving on the so-called Overtone Stone is the signature of Juan Ponce de Leon during a heretofore undocumented excursion to Nova Scotia.
The evidence Wolter offers for consideration is laughably thin, even by his standards. The rock is covered with a number of inscriptions, ranging from a Christian cross to a leaf to Arabic numerals. One figure includes two curved figures formed from a single line. Wolter suggests an inconceivably stupid explanation for it:
While there is no known record of the famous explorer ever sailing as far north as Nova Scotia, but that doesn't mean he could not have. The symbol circled in the image of Juan Ponce de Leon's signature below is the reason I bring up the possibility. The "de" in de Leon's signature is strikingly familiar to the double looped carving on the Overton Stone. The only meaningful difference between the two symbols is the bottom end of the carved line on the far right bends to the left instead of the right.
That’s a pretty meaningful difference if your argument is that the figure represents the preposition “de” and not two d’s. Wolter does not address the even more ridiculous notion that Juan Ponce de Leon would abbreviate his name to the preposition in it and not any of the actual identifiable elements in it. The “de” means “of” and identifies him as a member of the Ponce family and as a descendent of the kings of Leon. It would be like Eric von Däniken calling himself “von” or Adam of Bremen calling himself “of.” It’s ridiculous. When challenged on this point in the comments to his blog post, Wolter restated his belief that the ligature form of “de” was unique to Ponce de Leon (it isn’t) and that he would have used it as a way to identify himself (he didn’t), even though he wrote it the wrong way on the stone.
But the warrant that Wolter hangs his claims upon is the fact that there are no good records for what Ponce de Leon was doing between 1493 and 1503. During those ten years, it is not clear whether he remained in the Caribbean or returned to Spain. Consequently, Wolter can interpolate into the silence of the records a “secret” trip to Nova Scotia, where he left no other record than to sign his name “of,” wrongly.
11/1/2017 09:43:38 am
11/1/2017 10:36:42 am
It already was a compromise. The north just wanted to prohibit slavery in the territories that had not yet become states. They weren't out to declare slavery illegal. Just Lincoln running and winning on that platform was enough to make the southern states secede. Kelly doesn't know what he is talking about, just like his boss.
11/1/2017 11:45:33 am
Well, I suppose you could argue that the failure to compromise was on the south. Had the firebrands in the southern legislatures not taken control and pushed for secession, there would have been a very different outcome.
11/4/2017 06:58:32 pm
There were a few compromises over slavery.
11/1/2017 10:08:48 am
This is idiotic, even for Wolter. So much so, that it really doesn't scream for debunking. It just screams...
11/1/2017 03:54:46 pm
11/1/2017 10:27:31 am
Lee was unarguably one of the most accomplished officers of his day. Any military historian will tell you that.
11/1/2017 10:30:31 am
Oh, and Scott Wolter is an idiot. Forgot to tag that on, sorry.
11/1/2017 11:58:21 am
... and yet, historians argue. Lee's decision to wage an aggressive war when his side was clearly on the defensive has been questioned for generations. Military historian Edward Bonekemper has hammered at this point for years, "Although Lee has been praised for his offensives against the Union Army of the Potomac, he was carrying out an aggressive strategy with aggressive tactics that were inconsistent with what should have been a Confederate grand defensive strategy."
11/1/2017 01:01:56 pm
"If I were coaching up a young writer I would suggest first and foremost not to make everything about Trump."
11/2/2017 07:17:29 pm
I've always considered census records calling people white to be facts.
11/1/2017 11:25:28 am
Jason, I was the one to challenge Wolter on the use de as a identifying signature. I also provided him with a link showing a quite different example of ol Poncy's signature with the De part looking exactly like a written De should look, without that left sided curlicue hanging down. Wolter left off by saying there was no difference other than a slight change to the DE part, and then added an arrogant "Swing and miss I’m afraid.". I responded that n's in Ponce and Leon in my example were both written in longhand with the n's present, whereas in his example the n's are written in a shorthand. In this version they are both missing and are represented by a horizontal strait line above the letters at the end of each name. I also noted the bigger difference in his letter D. Wolter of course refused to publish my last response showing how wrong he was, leaving his "Swing and miss I’m afraid." as the final say. The whole thing just seems to be on account of sloppy penmanship by Ponce.
11/1/2017 11:39:43 am
I wouldn't waste your time Jim, trying to reason with Wolter. This latest idiocy is simply too stupid to entertain on any level. I mean... it's not even funny at this point. Even if Wolter were just playing to his imbecilic fan base... or what's left of them... this is near malpractice for even the Fringe, to present such frivolity as insightful speculation. This is beneath even a child. So again, it harkens back to just how truly dumb Wolter is; and yeah, it's unfathomable at this point. And not even worth poking a stick at.
11/1/2017 12:02:03 pm
You are probably right Joe, however it's kinda fun. Nice to note what Wolter will or will not publish in his comments.
11/1/2017 03:53:07 pm
If Wolter deleted the posts on his blog that made him look like the idiot he truly is... there wouldn't be much left. No, I've not seen him delete things he's already posted. Probably because he hasn't figured out how to do so. Seriously.
Not the Comte de Saint Germain
11/1/2017 05:24:29 pm
I once argued with Wolter on his blog over his China episode, the one whose starting point was "the Chinese made stone walls, here's an old stone wall in California, therefore the Chinese built it and therefore discovered America."
Not the Comte de Saint Germain
11/1/2017 05:28:51 pm
Oh, and Wolter said "we really don't have a consensus on when [the map] was made," even though the map contains a preface signed, albeit in Chinese, by Ricci. Basic background research should have eliminated the map as evidence, but if Wolter did basic background research, he would never have had a show in the first place.
11/1/2017 12:34:31 pm
Since Lee and Grant were such close friends, we are lucky that Grant chose the North. He did struggle with that. Where is praise for him? Do they have problems with scandal in his presidency, given Trump's scandal-ridden presidency?
11/2/2017 03:56:12 am
Mary Baker, you sound like a crazy person. Can you post something that sounds normal please?
11/2/2017 09:56:36 am
The truth is that Lee and Grant hardly knew each other. They had met briefly during the Mexican War in 1846. Lee's career had taken off after the war, while Grant had resigned from the Army. When the Civil War broke out, Lee was offered Command of the Army of the United States and would have replaced Winfield Scott. He turned it down and resigned his commission and offered his services to the Confederacy. Grant was working in his fathers leather shop. He, as a graduate of West Point, offered his services to the North and began his rise in the West, eventually taking the City of Vicksburg and opening up the Mississippi River and split the Confederacy in two. Lincoln summoned him the Washington and gave him command of the Union armies.
Peter de Geus
11/1/2017 01:29:16 pm
The carvings were first 'reported' in 2009. That's pretty recent isn't it? 06 07 hmmm... June 2007 maybe, somebodies initials maybe. Nah too obvious.
11/1/2017 02:37:47 pm
Yup, much too obvious, you are clearly missing the allegorical nature of the carving, as well as the coded astronomical references. Also if you draw a straight line due north from the stone on Google earth you end up exactly at the north pole !!!! And to top that off, if you draw a line due south you end up exactly at the south pole !!!!!! That just can't be coincidental.
11/1/2017 01:50:41 pm
No, no, no. That is obviously a poor attempt at carving the General Mills logo. Clearly that symbol was left by the proto-Templars/Templars/Cistercians/Freemasons as a clue to their passing. This goes beyond cookies, damn it!
11/1/2017 03:28:44 pm
“How, precisely, does one compromise over the question of whether some people deserve to own others?“
11/1/2017 03:56:40 pm
High interest or not, the accommodations are certainly better these days...
11/1/2017 04:13:17 pm
So Ponce used only a prepositional initial when he signed things?
11/1/2017 05:05:37 pm
I thinks it's plausible that "de" was the rapper name he went by. There are numerous examples of guys using parts of their names or initials as their rapper names.
Jason Colavito is an ass
11/1/2017 09:47:55 pm
Jason is a race baiting asshole! Robert E. Lee defended his state asswipe.
An Over-Educated Grunt
11/4/2017 10:46:04 pm
Oh? What is the state asswipe of Virginia?
JASON THE IDIOT
11/1/2017 09:48:57 pm
HEY IDIOT STAY OUT OF POLITICS! YOU RAMBLE ON AND SHOW YOUR TRUE COMMUNIST COLORS! IDIOT!
11/2/2017 08:28:24 am
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
11/2/2017 02:22:11 pm
It looks like "da" to me - I think it's proof that the Stone was signed by Leonardo da Vinci!
11/2/2017 03:37:45 pm
Nah, Leonard Dicaprio.
11/2/2017 07:51:40 pm
Da Vinci, eh? Now you're thinking like a true Wolterite. You need to go share this with his blog, pronto.
Jason the Socialist commie ass
11/3/2017 05:26:39 am
Ass bigot jackass
An Over-Educated Grunt
11/3/2017 08:01:25 am
Oh, are we playing Internet Tough Guy Koan now?
11/3/2017 09:40:26 am
I met the Buddha on the sidewalk and pushed him into the road - right in front of a speeding bus.
An Over-Educated Grunt
11/3/2017 02:53:20 pm
Antifa communist shitlord
Please Do Not Say Cuck You Faggot
11/3/2017 08:00:04 pm
Why did the Buddha cross the road?
11/13/2017 02:17:09 pm
For anyone still following along,, Wolter's most recent post on his blog has the Templars sailing to America around 1107. That's right they were coming to America 20 years prior to having even been in existence !
11/13/2017 02:22:47 pm
That should read,, Wolters most recent comment on this blog post.
11/15/2017 01:33:09 pm
Not to mention the even more far out crap that Wolter allows Americanergo's favorite delusional poster on Wolter's blog, Anthony Warren, to continually post. I hypothesize that Wolter allows it because he thinks his foolish ideas seem almost sane by comparison.
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