L. A. Marzulli Holds Live Stream Symposium to Reveal Elongated Skull DNA Results [UPDATED WITH RESULTS]
Late yesterday, Nephilim theorist L. A. Marzulli held a live global symposium in Los Angeles in which he and a team of misfits presented the results of DNA tests they conducted on an elongated skull from Paracas, Peru. Yes, regular readers will remember that Marzulli already conducted DNA tests on a similar skull and released them as part of the Watchers DVD line. The difference is that this time he released the results via a four-hour pay-per-view $9.99 online live stream, with a DVD and companion book available for purchase. Probably the best part of the farce was Marzulli’s admission that they put together the whole event and all of the supplementary materials before they even had the DNA results.
I may be willing to sit through any amount of boredom, but one thing I won’t do is spend good money to listen to amateurs and true believers rant. I did not spend money to live stream Marzulli’s event. Only after it ended did I discover that MUFON apparently didn’t get the memo about charging $10 per view and had made it available for free. They promised to have a recording of the video up for 24 hours of free viewing on Sunday.
And it’s a good thing I didn’t pay. According to comments posted on Marzulli’s Facebook page, the live stream suffered from massive technical difficulties. The video, which viewers described as resembling cheap webcam footage, was down for some of the broadcast and choppy for the rest, and the audio was inaudible for long portions of the four-hour event. Many viewers reported being extremely disappointed, but as of Saturday morning Marzulli had not said a word about the failed broadcast nor the DNA results that no one actually heard him reveal.
If word does get out about what, if anything, they said, I will update this post over the weekend.
Before it even began, there were already serious questions about the DNA results. Marzulli’s previous efforts to test the DNA of an elongated skull came under withering criticism because of poor collection methods, which Marzulli helpfully documented on video, showing clearly the many ways that his poor protocol left the door open for contamination. There was little guarantee that the new results would not suffer from equally problematic protocols. In both cases, Marzulli trumpeted the discovery of “European” DNA, which he took to be evidence of the diffusion of Bible Giants to South America, but which more likely represented contamination from the Euro-American researchers sampling the DNA.
Marzulli’s research team also did not inspire confidence. According to his promotional materials, his presenters included:
What is at least somewhat interesting is that the Peruvian Ministry of Culture allegedly endorsed some of the work that Marzulli’s team undertook. Gonzalez states that he has been working with the Ministry “to ascertain a more definitive genetic history of the Paracas People group.” I was unable to find any confirmation of the Ministry’s involvement on its website or in the Peruvian media. If they are working with Marzulli’s team, or even just Gonzalez, they are keeping it a closely guarded secret and, obviously, declined to participate in the news conference.
The claim, incidentally, also contradicts Brien Foerster’s statement from 2013 that Marzulli’s group was out of the DNA business because of cultural sensitivity issues. “Any future results will be the property and domain of the Peruvian government, and thus Peruvian people,” Foerster said, claiming that all material had been turned over to a “Peruvian archaeologist.” (It can’t be Gonzalez; he’s a native of Oregon.) Obviously, with two DNA announcements in two years, this claim was rendered moot by the potential for profit.
This brings me to the most important problem: If Marzulli and his team genuinely believed that they had proof positive that would change the history of the world, surely, they would have invited the actual mainstream media and trumpeted their findings to Kingdom Come. They wouldn’t restrict the results to paying customers.
[UPDATE] Late on Saturday, Marzulli apologized for the technical difficulties and promised to stream a recording of the conference tomorrow. He also tweeted that the DNA evidence “points to the Middle East” as the origin of the Paracas people, a claim he has previously made based on a rough analysis of haplogroups. It looks like the new results are more of the same.
[SECOND UPDATE] Late on Saturday, some information about the elongated skull DNA test from Brien Foerster appeared online. It was, as I suspected, more allegations about haplogroups. Here is his statement, as given online by a viewer who witnessed the presentation:
The DNA results actually were incredibly complicated… It’s gonna take me some time to actually figure out what the results mean. What it does show for sure is that the Paracas elongated skull people were not 100% Native American. They were a mix or even you could say, in some ways, a hybrid of different people. Their blood types are very complicated as well, they should be blood type “O” if they’re 100% Native American and that’s not the case. We are likely looking at a sub-species of humanity as regards to the Paracas… Seems to be a lot of DNA evidence from extreme eastern Europe and extreme western Asia. More specifically I’m talking about the area in between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea where ancient elongated skull people lived I think about 3000 years ago. So I think we are looking at a migration pattern starting in the Caspian Black Sea area and then entering through the Persian Gulf and then moving eastwards eventually winding up on the coast of Peru. So that’s the hypothesis Im developing now. 10 of the Paracas elongated skull’s blood were tested and they should be 100% type “O” because that is Native American, but it’s turning out high percentages of type “A,” a small percentage of type “B,” very high percentage of type “A-B” and less than half is “O.” So the Paracas were an incredibly complex ethnic mix of people… There are a number of different haplogroups that were found in the DNA tests of the Paracas elongated skulls and these haplogroups, which is your genetic ancestry, they don’t fit in with the history of Peru in any shape or form…. It appears that the largest elongated skulls on the planet have been found, “A” in Paracas, Peru and “B” in the Caucasus area in between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea… so my theory is that there was a sub-species of human which we are going to be eventually calling Homo-Sapiens-Sapiens-Paracas, and they were living in the area in between the Caspian and Black Sea. They were invaded by somebody… and so they were forced to flee. By studying the wind and currents of the oceans I’ve been able to come up with the following concept… they moved southwards until they found the Persian Gulf and then they sailed down through the Persian Gulf and once they left that area the boats were probably taken by the prevailing currents and winds which would have taken them eastward into the Pacific ocean. Over the course of a period of time, maybe tens of years or hundreds of years, they began to breed with people in the Pacific and that’s why we’re getting such a complicated reading of blood-types… They made it to Tahiti, from Tahiti they were able to sail south to New Zealand and then once they hit New Zealand they were able to catch the Humboldt current that took them up the coast of South America. They were looking for a good harbor to land their ships or boats and when they hit the largest natural bay on the coast of Peru which is Paracas, that’s where they stopped and that’s where they decided to establish themselves because almost nobody was living there at the time… over the course of time they had to breed with local native people otherwise their bloodline would become to concentrated… eventually they found Paracas probably about 900 B.C. and they lived in relative peacefulness… in 100 A.D. the invasion of the Nazca people happened from the north and when the Nazca entered the area, they slaughtered the elongated people who were the only royal class of people. We had 3 medical experts with us – Dr Malcom Warren (Chiropractor), Rick Woodward (Anthropologist) and Dr Michael Alday (Medical Doctor) and all 3 of them stated quiet emphatically that because of the abnormalities found with some of the Elongated Skulls from the Chongos cemetery in Peru they have no other choice but to state that some of these ancient Paracas were a sub-species of humanity… it had to be genetic, they had to be born with these abnormalities. They had dark red hair… the royal Paracas were the ones with elongated heads, not the common people… the royal family of the Paracas, they lived in subterranean underground houses and I think the reason for that is that they had light-colored skin, probably sensitive eyes because of the extreme sunshine…
Ah, the old Nephilim breeding their superior genes into all those sexy brown women trope! But seriously: Foerster and the decidedly inexpert medical people spun an elaborate fantasy out of genetic and skeletal data they barely understand, substituting their own ignorance for facts. The findings they note seem actually to be consistent with the identification of some ancestral Native American populations as hailing from central Asia. Five years ago, for example, National Geographic reported on genetic studies of Native Americans: “Nearly one-third of Native American genes come from west Eurasian people linked to the Middle East and Europe, rather than entirely from East Asians as previously thought, according to a newly sequenced genome.” So, basically, Marzulli and Foerster found exactly what science already knew and tried to explain away known results with a bizarre Biblical hypothesis because they do not accept that Eurasian people gave rise to the Native Americans and that real scientists already knew and accounted for this.
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