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L. A. Marzulli Weighs in on "Ancient Aliens" Elongated Skull DNA Test; Plus: Scott Wolter to Investigate Claims of Templars in New Mexico

6/7/2017

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​On Monday L. A. Marzulli weighed in on last week’s Ancient Aliens, in which an elongated skull allegedly from pre-Contact Peru was said to contain DNA that most closely matched a Scottish person. Marzulli, who has chosen to match Ancient Aliens’ turn toward creationism with an embrace of the popular History Channel show, crowed that these results were consistent with his own DNA test on a different skull last year that found European and Middle Eastern DNA in the skull. He also said that the two skulls both show a lack of a sagittal suture, making them potential Nephilim corpses. However, Marzulli claims that all of this proves that the Nephilim emigrated from Israel after the Flood. He added, apropos of nothing, that Cahokia, the greatest Mississippian city, was not built by Native Americans but rather is thousands of years old, not hundreds, and was built by Nephilim using “Fallen Angel technology.”
​Then he offered this rambling thought:
We know Giorgio Tsoukalos and the whole crew at the History Channel, we’re on parallel universes as it were. We know something is going on. We know there is a hidden history. We know that this information has deliberately been kept from the American people, from the people of the world. […] However, where we disagree, where we part company is that they’re looking to the stars, they’re looking to our “ancient astronauts,” people from another galaxy, another planet. And I’m saying, “No, that’s not what we’re looking at. There’s an interdimensional hypothesis here.” 
​I’m sorry. I try to follow these crazy claims, but even I can’t figure out how the Nephilim can be interdimensional beings, the hybrid offspring of Fallen Angels and human women, and Middle Eastern / Scottish human beings all at the same time.
 
It practically makes today’s second story look logical.
 
This week former television personality Scott Wolter reported on his blog that he is talks to investigate so-called stone “pillars” in New Mexico that some believe are evidence of Knights Templar activity in the region. “Should be interesting and we'll definitely let everyone know what we find out,” Wolter wrote. The pillars, however, are less mysterious than claimed, as Chris McKee of KRQE-TV discovered last month in investigating the Templar connection.
 
According to McKee, New Mexico resident Louis Serna, a retiree who writes self-published books on hyper-local history and family genealogy, saw a 42-inch-tall stone in a hotel lobby and became convinced that its geometric and Christian carvings marked it as the creation of visitors from the Middle East, particularly Knights Templar.
 
“I think that it was made in the Middle East and brought here, at some expense, at that time,” Serna said. “Then, when it was brought here, instead of dropping it off on the East Coast or in the Gulf of Mexico, or in the Pacific, it was brought all the way through the country, into northern New Mexico.”
 
Serna compared the small stone pillar to the Los Lunas Decalogue Stone, a Depression-era hoax that he and other hyperdiffusionists believe is the work of ancient Jewish explorers.
 
The roughly carved pillar has four faces featuring Templar-style Christian crosses (with variations) amidst other iconography such as sun beams. The top of the pillar is a pyramidion surrounded by triangular crenellations.
 
While the carving is crude, befitting its middle of nowhere rural location, the style is reminiscent of obelisk-shaped grave markers popular in the Victorian era, complete with Classical style relief carvings. Just as rural people imitated expensive urban furniture by carving their own duplicates, so too does this stone look a lot like a localized evocation of more expensive mortuary markers by a talented but unrefined sculptor. Indeed, an archaeologist who looked into the story found a second pillar in similar style, and guess where he found it. Yes, that’s right: In the middle of small private graveyard.
 
Serna, however, is unwilling to accept that it could be a grave marker.
 
“Oh no, it’s absolutely it’s not,” said Serna. “For one thing, you know, obviously there’s no name on it and no birth date, no death date, no nothing like that.”
 
If I had to guess, I’d say that it was meant as a marker for a family plot, a monument around which the family’s graves would be arranged. I’ve seen similar markers at some of the small rural cemeteries and family plots in the backwoods parts of upstate New York. At any rate, photographs of the hotel lobby stone and the one still in the graveyard appear consistent with nineteenth century gravestones, but of course I have no way to know for sure since I have not seen the actual stones.
 
Other explanations for the stone include claims that it was a trail marker or a property boundary marker.
 
Serna added that the eight-pointed star found on the cemetery pillar is a symbol of the Knights Templar. “The eight point star is an ancient symbol,” said Serna. “The Templar Knights, when they started their crusades, they took their eight-point star as their badge.” They did not. Serna is confusing Ishtar’s eight-pointed star with fringe books that claim that the Templars used an eight-pointed cross (actually the Maltese cross) to evoke the goddess’ star. The eight-pointed star appearing on the pillar is not identical to Ishtar’s but rather resembles the eight-pointed star pattern used in rural quilting. 
72 Comments
Only Me
6/7/2017 10:24:43 am

The less said about Marzulli, the better.

This Serna fellow definitely has Templars on the brain. No one can give a detailed history for the stones, so he comes up with a theory on his own. In typical fringe fashion, he is quick to tell us what the stones are not without knowing what they are.

Seems to me, if both stones were discovered in the middle of nowhere, with one in a graveyard, then they most likely were markers whose purpose has been forgotten. I find it hard to believe they were brought by Knights Templar all the way from the Middle East for an unknown reason.

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Clete
6/7/2017 10:52:38 am

I don't know what is so mysterious about the stone. It was carved by the Nephilim, transported to the New World, probably by ancient Minoan ships probably on their way to the Great Lakes to mine copper. Found later by the Templars and transported to New Mexico, probably by elephants, where it was set up, in the middle of nowhere to mark the spot that "eight Templars and twenty-three members of the St. Clair clan" found the ancient bones of Rough Hurach.

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Murgatroyd
6/7/2017 11:09:51 am

@Clete

<< Found later by the Templars and transported to New Mexico, probably by elephants,

No, no, no.

Anyone knows that this isn't right.

It was unicorns, not elephants ...

Only Me
6/7/2017 11:16:39 am

Ha!

Jim
6/7/2017 01:07:26 pm

You guys are missing the part about the Templars finding the Nephilim already here, and the ensuing battles between the two.
It's pretty obvious that the KRS records one such battle.

TONY S.
6/7/2017 11:07:36 am

How sweet, Wolter has finally found a soul mate to share his Templar fantasies with.

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Only Me
6/7/2017 11:14:06 am

I think this is why the sweat on Steve St. Clair's keyboard will soon be replaced by the bitter tears of betrayal.

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TONY S.
6/8/2017 12:06:47 am

Maybe the good Rev. Phil Gotsch will come back to comfort him, ha ha. I know how much you guys loved it when he would post!

Americanegro
6/7/2017 03:36:51 pm

I would love to see a show called America AB, where Wolter travels the country exploring and promoting the Adult Baby Lifestyle.

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Clete
6/10/2017 08:37:13 am

Several times on this blog I made a suggestion for a new show for Scott Wolter. It would be about fishing. Since he has a fake Masters degree, he would travel to various lakes, rivers and streams showing us the best baits to use. His show would be titled "The Master Baiter".

Jim
6/10/2017 08:43:02 am

He has caught many a live one with his favorite lure, the hooked x.

Joe Scales
6/7/2017 11:15:31 am

Wouldn't it be a hoot if Wolter went out there and debunked the claims? Like a new career path for him.

As if...

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Shane Sullivan
6/7/2017 11:23:37 am

"I’m sorry. I try to follow these crazy claims, but even I can’t figure out how the Nephilim can be interdimensional beings, the hybrid offspring of Fallen Angels and human women, and Middle Eastern / Scottish human beings all at the same time."

Their Fallen Angel parents came from another dimension, bred with the local women of Scotland, their Nephilim offspring immigrated to the Middle East, took to the skies in magitech UFOs to survive the flood, before coming to the most beautiful and appealing place in all the world, the American Midwest, and began using their hyperadvanced technology to build earthwork mounds.

Simple.

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Finn
6/8/2017 03:03:02 am

"their Nephilim offspring"

Nephilim? Or NESSphilim?

*nods knowingly*

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Clay
6/7/2017 11:35:23 am

The symbols struck me as possibly Latter Day Saints (Mormons). A quick Internet search shows that pillars or obelisks were not uncommon for LDS graves. https://illuminatisymbols.info/mormon/

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At Risk
6/7/2017 11:49:28 am

My own take (so far) is that the Knights Templar and their associates like Cistercian monks were likely involved with expeditions into America, but perhaps even well before the era of the 1362 Kensington Runestone. Of course, there were no Templars at the time of the KRS, only post-Templars, if such a term may be temporarily coined. Templars did not leave the KRS, as they were "disbanded" a half-century earlier.

However, we have before us the unresolved issue over just exactly why these proposed post-Templar Scandinavians set sail on the "journey of discovery" or the expedition to "acquire or re-acquire" something...what? The fur trade? Land?

Land-claim-wise, there is the proposed Sauk Lake Altar Rock, its spring-pool site a half-mile from Sauk Lake, which for all intents and purposes is marking the upper reach of the Sauk River, which flows down into the Mississippi River, above St. Anthoney's Falls. This is rare, because most of the categories of evidences related to the KRS are located westward, towards the Dakotas, and are in most ways connected to the Minnesota River.

Yet still, and unlike Wolter, I do not believe the Chippewa River is connected to any particular land-claim, unless it is considered into the Minnesota River watershed, and included. This could happen, as the nearby Pomm de Terre River does reach up beyond the Chippewa River, thereby effectively claiming the most land in any regional land-claim.

I personally think it may be that the KRS party were looking for evidence of a prior land-claim, such as the proposed Norse Code-stone, but that they were up the wrong river. I think a large land-claim may have eminated from either the Pomme de Terre River or from the Sauk River...but probably not from the KRS's Chippewa River.

For guessing what entity may have been responsible for an earlier land-claim (earlier than 1362), one could cast his or her eyes to any credible possibility from the end of the Viking Age to the 14th century...powerful chieftains, kings or even the Catholic Church...any entity wanting to possibly settle faraway lands back when the weather was pleasant and before disease struck so unmercilessly.

Right now I'm guessing that most of the many evidences along the Whetstone River just across the border in SD were made either by monks or Greenlanders. The monks may have been protected by actual Knights Templar, interested in claiming land for the then-existing Pope.

(Again, just some fairly innocent speculations...nothing for ardent skeptics to get too riled about.)

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Jim
6/7/2017 12:36:01 pm

I don't not know what unmercilessly means.

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BigNick
6/7/2017 09:23:40 pm

Maybe it's like how loosen and unloosen mean the same thing.

jane smith
6/8/2017 12:45:05 pm

like thaw and unthaw, and flammable and inflammable

At Risk
6/8/2017 08:53:28 pm

It seems like intelligent but nit-picky people like you, Jim, would know I meant either unmercifully, or merciless, take your pick. This shows how low one can stoop in their petty, dumb and merciless attacks. (And, where was my spell-check-friend?)

A good example of acting unmercifully would be like Fake Americanegro's comments about Wolter and his father a few weeks ago, here, and then another act of acting mercilessly would be letting those comments stand. Please comment about this, Jim...it seems like this would have upset your petty sensitivities enormously....

Jim
6/9/2017 08:23:41 am

Sorry for derailing your attempted hijacking of the comments with off topic nonsense.

AT RISK'S ALTER EGO
6/9/2017 01:55:31 pm

I completely understand. I was talking gibberish again. Please treat me in the same manner anytime you feel I deserve it. I appreciate it, my friend.

Americanegro
6/7/2017 12:55:28 pm

I know I've used this recently, and hat-tip to the late David Brinkley, but "more goddamn nonsense".

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Vito
6/7/2017 05:52:31 pm

A land claim is silly and meaningless if the claimant does not exercise dominion over the land.

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Americanegro
6/7/2017 06:15:25 pm

Also if it doesn't say "This is a land claim" but "Wow some dudes got slaughtered so we carved this stone."

Also if there are no names on it.

Also if it ends up buried.

Also if it's small enough that a couple guys could just throw it in the water.

We're dealing with a mental patient here.

AT RISK'S ALTER EGO
6/8/2017 12:27:06 am

Please pay no attention to me. When you acknowledge my presence it only encourages my habit of indulging in rampant gibbering nonsense. I should not be enabled, I should promptly be given a liter sized hypodermic shot in the butt of thorazine instead, and speedily carted off to the nearest psychiatric center. (preferably one NOT controlled by the Freemasons, the Rothschilds, or the Illuminati, thank you very much! The Watchers are of course fine).

I seek validation from strangers through pseudo-intellectual ramblings because I am scorchingly insecure, much like my gods in human form, Scott Wolter, Giorgio Tsoukalos, and Steven St. Clair. Although it is rare that my true personality has moments of clarity long enough to allow my alter ego to break through and speak, when it does I feel I must take the opportunity to open up to everyone here.

You see, I secretly admire you all for your knowledge but would never under normal circumstances admit it. I yearn with all the blood in my runestone loving heart to belong here, amongst the rational minded. I understand the things that I write have no basis in reality, I simply cannot help myself.

I fear my lucidity will not last much longer... thank you for allowing me to unburden my heavy hooked X heart... and my sincere apologies for my inevitable lapsing back into my regular insufferable attitude... my next post will once more see me back to my delusion self.

Farewell dear friends....

At Risk
6/8/2017 09:13:32 pm

Joe, Fake Americanegro, we understand how terrible it must be for you not to have Wolter to kick around any longer, but try to control your "out-reach" here to something more meaningful than feeling the constant urge to attack. This goes for all the "minor" attackers here, too. What a waste of energy, especially since I don't really even care about your asinine, petty thoughts about me and my views.

I think many here must be fed up with you, Fake Americanegro, because of your constant crassness. I think it is appalling that a white person would attempt to come across here as a black person and then make such a fool of himself. Only God knows what makes you tick and what's wrong with your personality. That you try to sway others here with your obvious immorality is a blight on you and your many aliases. That anyone would pay any attention to you and join in your dumb attacks is a testiment to their own flawed personalities.

BigNick
6/8/2017 10:35:41 pm

If you want something more meaningful and less venom filled, then you might want to stop posting your jibberish. People are nicer when your not around. Not a sermon, just a rhought.

Weatherwax
6/8/2017 11:13:22 pm

Having to repeatedly point out to Deluded Dunn that his irrefutable evidence exists only in his imagination wears on one's patience.

AT RISK'S ALTER EGO
6/8/2017 11:17:27 pm

Apologies, my dear friends, for the offensive tone of my last post. I can be hard to deal with in my altered state, can I not?

Of course I care very much about what each and every one of you thinks, as you can easily tell from my all too transparent and adamant denials. A clear case of "the lady doth protest too much." In order to prove to you all how much I do not care about your comments, I will keep telling you how much I don't care.

I am sorry for being so juvenile and peevish, I simply do not have the characteristics of a mature adult. Emotional balance is a challenge at the best of times.

I wish I did not subject you all to my sanctimonious sentiments when I am in my altered state. I intentionally characterize informed comments as petty, as well as diminish all intelligent remarks as below my dignity in a transparent attempt to hide the fact that I have no good counterarguments. I realize that this can be trying, and beg you for your continued tolerance.

I also assume far too much, like how I think that I know who is behind certain posts which infuriate me (though I am loathe to admit it out loud that they do), when in actuality I am absolutely clueless as to the true author. I must say that he/she has pegged me with 100% accuracy!

Thank you my dear friends, and have a pleasant tomorrow. May all your dreams come true, and I hope like me you will one day know the bliss of the sleep of the truly delusional. Good night.

At Risk
6/9/2017 11:15:25 am

You got it, VITO. Planting a land-claim is only the beginning of an attempted land-claim. The French up in these parts usually held impressive ceremonies, tacked a proclamation to a nearby tree and then buried a lead plate. This occurred in Sault Ste. Marie, MI, and a plate from the 18th century was found by children in SD many years ago. It resides in a museum in SD.

VITO, some of the medieval expeditions made by Scandinavians in these parts weren't much different from the attempts by the French, the Spanish, etc., in other parts of America. For instance, priests often accompanied expeditions and land-claim attempts.

Exercising dominion over the land is easier said than done, especially when clinging to the Homeland by a thread.... Faraway land ventures were once in vogue, when land was in demand, the weather was better and disease had not yet hit with such "unmercifullness."

From the June 8th blog: "I have called this system Native Strength, and it offers medicine wheels for managing bullies, motivation, success, empowerment, breaking bad habits, making your dreams come true, predicting where anyone’s focus will be at any given time in their life and much more."

This is what some here are in need of: I need a medicine wheel for managing bullies here...and certain losers here need medicine wheels for making their dreams come true.

AT RISK'S ALTER EGO
6/9/2017 12:40:18 pm

I have gone insane from staring at the sun.

I ramble of Vitos and landclaims and bullies... oh my!

My transformations are becoming more frequent and uncontrollable.

I have become Dr. Henry Jekyll.

An Over-Educated Grunt
6/9/2017 03:27:54 pm

You know what else is ineffectual and silly? Trying to settle a continent middle-out, trying to settle a continent from a population base recovering from the Black Death, and trying to colonize North America from Sweden, with its long, completely imaginary stretches of Atlantic-facing coast. There's a reason the North American colonial powers - including Denmark! - all had at least North Sea frontage.

But hey, what do I know, I'm gruff!

Cort Lindahl
6/7/2017 12:14:17 pm

Here is a link to an article about the stones that I wrote. Some crazy connections to the Beale Treasure legend and toll road through the Raton Pass.
http://survivalcell.blogspot.com/p/the-beale-treasure-and-raton-pass-of.html

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questioning mind
6/7/2017 05:15:25 pm

I am truly confused by Hutton/Wolter...first they put down Halpern"s book...now, the man who is said to own the material has been courted by Hutton/Wolter to get his material....kettle gets more black all the time. Snoose would run out of both sides of their mouths.

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SouthCoast
6/7/2017 08:06:05 pm

Exactly how much "Fallen Angel technology" is required to construct a wooden palisade and a collection of dirt piles?

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Uncle Ron
6/7/2017 08:30:16 pm

It never gets old, does it?

Oh, yeah . . . it does.

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BigNick
6/7/2017 09:14:40 pm

So is any cross a templars cross, now? Is that how it works? I thought the xx in the Exxon logo was a "templar cross." I wonder why the Smithsonian hasn't stolen the stones yet. You know, to hide the truth and such.

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E.P. Grondine
6/7/2017 10:44:48 pm

"​I’m sorry. I try to follow these crazy claims, but even I can’t figure out how the Nephilim can be interdimensional beings, the hybrid offspring of Fallen Angels and human women, and Middle Eastern / Scottish human beings all at the same time."

Jason. you are thoroughly addicted to blogging. and the nuts can produce more insane nonsense than any one person could ever handle. even a person as skilled as yourself.

I myself am quite satisfied with Andrew Collins' explanation of the source of the Nephelim materials found in "Biblical" texts.
What other insane idiots produce really does not interest me.

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Patrick Shekleton
6/10/2017 12:23:09 pm

AO-E Grunt,

You raise an excellent point to question what would compel a group to be out in the middle of the North American continent, purportedly in 1362 by the inscription on the KRS. Why there? As your moniker implies that you are a former Marine, you fully realize that anyone can get to a location once - its called being lost. Leaving behind a "claim" marker at a location you arrived at by being lost is not much good, is it? If the KRS was a marker/monument for a "claim" of some sort, then its location had to be purposeful in positioning and whoever left it had to be able to return to its location. It's quite enigmatic.

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BigNick
6/10/2017 01:34:12 pm

The KRS doesn't claim to be a land claim, it has several wrong characters, and has anachronisms in its language that didn't exist in 1362. Its not enigmatic at all.

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Joe Scales
6/10/2017 02:06:13 pm

Once you cite Wolter as a source for history, linguistics and/or archeology, you lose your credibility. Heck, even his geology, for which he only has a bachelor's degree, is on shaky grounds and has never withstood the rigors of academic, scientific peer review. Or Logic 101, for that matter.

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Jim
6/10/2017 04:06:13 pm

Wolter,,,,,,, He is now attributing the Shroud of Turin to DaVinci,, hahahahahaha !

http://scottwolteranswers.blogspot.ca/2017/04/correction-needed-in-zena-halperns-new.html

DaVinci was born in 1452
The shroud was first exhibited in France in the year 1357.
The shroud was radiocarbon dated between the years 1260 and 1390.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shroud_of_Turin

Joe Scales
6/10/2017 04:52:09 pm

Well, it's not like Wolter will ever correct himself, so that one is gonna stick. Already his minions of morons are all over it, taking it for gospel.

Will you join them Patrick?

BigNick
6/10/2017 05:00:22 pm

He also believes that burning at the stake is the same as cremation

Jim
6/10/2017 05:16:27 pm

"The Shroud of Turin

Geoffroi de Charny (the French Knight who died at the 1356 battle of Poitiers) and his wife Jeanne de Vergy are the first reliably recorded owners of the Shroud of Turin. This Geoffroi participated in a failed crusade under Humbert II of Viennois in the late 1340s.[27] He is sometimes confused with Templar Geoffroi de Charney.[28]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_de_Molay#The_Shroud_of_Turin

Joe Scales
6/10/2017 10:29:34 pm

"He is sometimes confused with Templar Geoffroi de Charney."

Ah ha.. a Templar Connection!

Mike Morgan
6/11/2017 02:13:29 am

"Heck, even his geology, for which he only has a bachelor's degree, is on shaky grounds ..."

Ah, yes! Who can forget the time he "mistakenly" tried to pass off a less valuable Brazilian agate as a much more valuable Lake Superior agate. The judge didn't buy the "mistake", ruling against Wolter and declaring that he was "a known and recognized expert on Lake Superior agates, and has published a book on Lake Superior agates.", Wolter “knew, or with the exercise of reasonable care or competence, should have known, that said representations were false, or said representations were made by the defendant [Wolter] to the plaintiff [Petersen] without knowing whether they were true or false.”

And who can forget a when a distinguished PhD Geologist quipped that Wolter's degree and expertise might qualify him to observe a rock in the road and declare it to be - a rock.

Americanegro
6/11/2017 06:06:47 pm

"Templar Geoffroi de Charney"? Charney? Charred? Burnt at the stake? There's more here but Big Academia is hiding it from us!

Americanegro
6/12/2017 10:46:21 pm

This "Anthony Warren" is a relatively new retard who fancies himself an archaeologist, runologist, oghamoligist, panologist...

I tracked down his real name once because he left clues and if he pisses me off enough with his stupidity I'll do it again, but for now we are nothing if not tolerant and merciful.

AnonymousJune 9, 2017 at 1:27 PM
I figured the image was made while the subject was on public display before being burned alive. Leonardo certainly possessed the ability to create it. His skill with bending light is very apparent in the Mona Lisa.

Can't wait to learn more about Sir Humphrey.

Anthony Warren

"On public display"??? Leaving aside the time travel aspect of involving Leonardo, "camera obscura" means "dark room" so there would have to be a structure near the burning site. Possible I suppose, again leaving aside the time travel aspect, but....

SMFH.

Jim
6/12/2017 11:27:39 pm

The time travel aspect can be easily explained using the same explanation he used for the longitude on Halpern's map.
"Secret Knowledge" (insert echo chamber sound effects here)

Joe Scales
6/13/2017 10:21:09 am

That idiot Wolter just double-downed on his Da Vinci/Shroud of Turin when one of his fans informed him that carbon dating placed the shroud's origin prior to Da Vinci's birth. Wolter's explanation? Da Vinci used an old cloth.

Of course no one has yet been allowed to inform him publicly that Da Vinci was born only after the Shroud came into history. Go ahead though. Try to tell him. Here it was I was figuring he'd go full on mendacious by claiming Da Vinci made a better one than what showed up the century before he was born... but for now he's in the denial stage.

This topic actually deserves a full blog post. I mean... even those that defend Wolter here... they can't defend this. Can they? Will a time traveling Da Vinci be the next topic du jour at a Masonic throw down coming soon to your town?

Americanegro
6/13/2017 11:04:15 am

"While we don't have definitive proof it's the work of Da Vinci, the tradition that most likely knows the truth stands by their past Grand Master as being the creator."

WAIT WHAT??? What tradition? Grand Master of WHAT? The only tradition that claimed Da Vinci as Grand Master as far as I know was the Prieure de Sion, which was totally made up.

Wolter is the high-strung vitriolic gin-soaked closet case that keeps on giving (and should not be anyone's first choice for a dive buddy or an agate dealer or a co-author).

Joe Scales
6/13/2017 12:31:59 pm

Oh, don't stop Wolter's quote there, as it gets even better with:

"That's good enough for me unless better facts come forward."

Apparently the fact that Da Vinci was born after the Shroud came forth is not "better" enough for him. He is the Imbecile Poseur.

Jim
6/13/2017 01:04:24 pm

"better facts",,, it that like "Alternative facts" ?
Apparently Wolter believes fact, fiction and fantasy are Synonyms !

Americanegro
6/13/2017 03:19:24 pm

I'm guessing his resolve is super hard. He is entertaining to watch, less on TV and moreso on his blog and comments section. He seems to be saying that the Shroud of Turin, which genuine :) or not appears to be a one-off was made using secret Templar technology. Because relics was one of the core things the Templars did. And I guess I'm guessing that he thinks Leonardo was some sort of neo-Templar and Grand Master, or else he believes in the Prieure de Sion, or some third possibility. Wolter's a retard.

Jim
6/13/2017 04:23:39 pm

OMG,, Wolter is now saying he is certain DaVinci made the shroud, but there may or may not have been a previous one !
Just wow !!

Joe Scales
6/13/2017 05:41:33 pm

As I predicted above, Wolter would rather invent more shrouds than admit a very obvious mistake on his part. That is why you must question everything he does; including his petrography work. He is so incredibly dishonest and unqualified that he has to pile lie upon lie to mask his imbecility. If he's going to hold himself out as an historian and be so brutally ignorant of that which he speaks, why then should we then expect anything other than mendacity with any work he has ever done his entire life. His character is wholly corrupt. He is the Imbecile Poseur. The wannabe who could never measure up when it came to serious insight within scholarly pursuits.

Americanegro
6/13/2017 05:58:14 pm

Dishonest agate dealer - check

Dishonest coauthor - check

Dishonest degree claimer - check

Dishonest claimer of expertise in runes and medieval Swedish - check

Very recent collector of Masonic degrees - check

Seer of things that simply are not there - check

Doubler-down on his retarded ideas - check

Dishonest, nay imbecilic multiplier of entities when caught in the simplest of errors - check

I have to say At Risk of immodesty that my alter ego Joe Scales pretty much has Wolter nailed, as a bottomless fountain of bullshit. If he told me a sidewalk was made of concrete I would get a second opinion.

Americanegro
6/13/2017 06:53:19 pm

You know how I keep saying Wolter is a retard? For no reason in particular, none whatsoever, I'm going to archive Andre Kovac's posts and Wolter's answers here. He appears to back off his Grand Master Da Vinci claim and say "I have no idea what really happened" then doubles down again. What a tool.

AnonymousJune 13, 2017 at 12:23 PM
Scott,

The Shroud entered the historical record long before the birth of Leonardo. What are your thoughts on that?

Best,

Andre Kovac

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Scott WolterJune 13, 2017 at 12:36 PM
Andre,

The question I have are there more than one Shroud? I have no doubt in my mind that Da Vinci created the Shroud that exists today, but whether an earlier one existed is not known with any certainly.

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AnonymousJune 13, 2017 at 2:44 PM
I don't know, Scott. I think the one thing we do know about the Shroud is its provenance since it first appeared. Have you read The Shroud Conspiracy that came out earlier this year? It's a novel, a thriller, but there's a lot of good stuff in it.

Best,

Andre Kovac

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Scott WolterJune 13, 2017 at 2:50 PM
Andre,

I have not read the book which I’m sure is a good read. To be frank, the Turin Shroud is not a major point of interest to me other than it may have been created as leverage against the Church. I have no idea what really happened and neither does anything else living today. One thing I am convinced of is that it doesn’t have any connection to the Biblical Jesus. With that said, it’s a fascinating mystery that isn’t going to be solved on this blog.

AnonymousJune 13, 2017 at 3:35 PM
Scott,

Okay on all that, but I meant to ask: if you're allowed to say, what Order was Leonardo Grand Master of? I always pictured him as kind of a lone guy.

Best,

Andre Kovac

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Scott WolterJune 13, 2017 at 3:48 PM
Andre,

The Knights Templar of course.
_____________________________

Does it get any bettter than this?

Jim
6/13/2017 07:32:34 pm

Poor old Leonardo, the Grand Master of the Knights Templar reduced to making fake relics for the very people that were heavily involved in the torture and murder of his brethren, and then disbanded them. haha,, I would say you can't make this stuff up, but I would be wrong.

Americanegro
6/13/2017 08:19:39 pm

Not to mention that to be a Knight in the Knights Templar (they had a lot of support personnel) you had to ALREADY BE A KNIGHT. Presumably the Grand Master would have been a knight. Was Leonardo a knight and nobody noticed?

Jim
6/13/2017 09:31:28 pm

Wolter quotes ;

"The Shroud of Turin is likely a relic created (likely by Leonardo Da Vinci) for the Roman Catholic Church in exchange for relief of persecution of certain individuals that helped begin the Age of Enlightenment."

" To be frank, the Turin Shroud is not a major point of interest to me other than it may have been created as leverage against the Church."

Um,,,,,Just a little bit of a contradiction there Scotty.

Joe Scales
6/13/2017 10:02:40 pm

Though it is nice to see that argumentum ad ignorantiam is still in vogue, I am more intrigued in wondering what if any fascinating mysteries have ever been solved on Wolter's blog.

Americanegro
6/13/2017 10:27:52 pm

Not sure if it qualifies as a mystery, but today we got treated to a demo of what a dumbass he can be.

BigNick
6/14/2017 12:35:51 am

Wolter has gone from believing Holy Blood, Holy Grail is real to believing The DiVinci Code is real. These comments tie with the templar pirates series as the most asinine thoughts he's ever had. The man is a comic genius!

Joe Scales
6/14/2017 01:02:06 pm

Ah, the pirate treasure of the knights Templar. Where Wolter boldly stated for the entire world to hear... that St. Anthony was the "patron saint for thieves". I would compare him to Inspector Clouseau, but Clouseau actually solved mysteries, rather than fabricate them.

An Over-Educated Grunt
6/10/2017 08:25:22 pm

Oh no, I was Army. Also, I find the KRS not in the least problematic. The simplest explanation that fits the evidence is that it's a fraud. The only way to justify thinking anything else is to introduce more evidence of sufficient quality that it merits study, and bluntly that requires material artifacts and not speculation about triangle holes in rock, code stones, or windmills.

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Patrick Shekleton
6/10/2017 11:33:03 pm

AO-E Grunt,
Army is good. Nice reply, thx.

Americanegro
6/11/2017 06:03:52 pm

Yeah, Army is grunts, Marines is Marines, nice try Patrick Jocksnifferton.

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12/19/2017 01:22:25 am

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Thanks for the belly laugh I got reading your responses to the miss-representations by a few who completely butchered what I said in my first TV interview..!!! Funny that no one bothered to contact me before ridiculing me..! Including you who offered your idiotic comments...!!! What a great site this is to get a good laugh..!!! I won't bother to have you contact me to get the REAL story... Keep making up your own but know that I know what I know and now you'll never know....! Thanks for the comedy of characters...!

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        • Jewish Encyclopedia on Giants
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        • The Holy Grail as Lucifer's Crown Jewel
        • The Mutinous Sea
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        • Ragnarok: The Age of Fire and Gravel
        • Origins of the Egyptian People
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        • Phoenicians in America
        • The Electric Ark
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        • Prince Henry Sinclair
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        • Chronology and the "Riddle of the Sphinx"
        • The Faith of Ancient Egypt
        • Spirit of the Hour in Archaeology
        • Book of the Damned
        • Great Pyramid As Noah's Ark
        • Richard Shaver's Proofs
    • Alien Encounters >
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        • "Flying Saucers"? They're a Myth
        • UFO Hypothesis Survival Questions
        • Air Force Academy UFO Textbook
        • The Condon Report on Ancient Astronauts
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        • Noah's Ark Cables
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        • Scott Wolter Lawsuit
        • UFOs in Ancient China
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      • Ancient Extraterrestrials >
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        • What Is Theosophy?
        • Plane of Ether
        • The Adepts from Venus
      • A Message from Mars
      • Saucer Mystery Solved?
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      • The Cursed Car
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      • The Island of Doctor Moreau
      • Pharaoh's Curse
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      • The Lost Continent
      • Count Magnus
      • The Mysterious Stranger
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      • H. P. Lovecraft >
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        • At the Mountains of Madness
        • Lovecraft's Library in 1932
      • The Skeptical Poltergeist
      • The Corpse on the Grating
      • The Second Satellite
      • Queen of the Black Coast
      • A Martian Odyssey
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      • The Migration of Symbols
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      • De Profundis
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