When I spoke with Nephilim theorist L. A. Marzulli last week about the elongated skulls of Paracas, he assured me that his team anthropologist, Rick Woodward, who holds a master’s in anthropology and geography and who is currently studying for a Ph.D. in Biblical archaeology, was an expert in skulls and would be able to answer some basic questions about the supposedly anomalous osteology of the Paracas elongated skulls. I am always willing to give people the benefit of the doubt, and yesterday Marzulli posted to YouTube an interview he did with Woodward on Wednesday about the supposed skeletal anomalies. I was left a bit confused about Woodward’s approach and findings, which seemed to imply a lack of familiarity with the scholarly literature on the subject. The interview can be seen in the YouTube video below at the 30-minute mark, after the half hour of rightwing propaganda and commercials for pet urine stain remover. Woodard claimed that measurements of the Paracas skulls found that the foramen magnum, the hole in the base of the skull where the spinal column attaches, was located 1 cm further back than in an average human skull. “You cannot do that with head-binding. You cannot do that with head-wrapping,” he said. “That absolutely, positively has to be genetically done.” It was not, however, clear to me that he had accounted for the plastic nature of infant skulls, since his description appeared to refer to adult skulls, in which the bones are essentially fixed, rather than children’s skulls, where the bones are not fully grown and might be more susceptible to pressures created by outside forces. Indeed, as we shall see, other scholars came to similar conclusions years ago. Woodward also said that the palate was shaped like a C rather than a U, meaning that the palate was wider and shallower. He also claims that the openings allowing for nerve and blood vessel attachments for the muscles that control the jaw, the foramen ovales, were missing “and there was no place for them.” Fortunately, I was able to find one of Marzulli’s team’s presentation slides in which the supposed anomaly appears: It’s a little difficult to see, but the “normal” human skull appears at left and two elongated skulls at right. The foramen magnum is the big hole in the middle of each skull. The two elongated skulls’ openings are in the same position as the “normal” skull but appear to be farther back because the skull’s rearmost sections have been compressed out of position. Woodward states that this is impossible, and binding cannot compress the back of the head or move the foramen magnum without producing death. We will see that this is not the consensus of science. They are, however, smaller in size. Whether this is due to cranial deformation pressures, genetic differences, or the skulls belonging to not yet fully developed individuals, I cannot say. A similar skull photographed by Brien Foerster does not appear to have a significantly smaller foramen magnum. Woodward dismisses this, without sufficient evidence, as merely skulls that have been hybridized with normal human DNA. Unless he has reliable dating to prove that anomalous skulls are decisively older, I don’t see how you can assume some skulls hybridized and then use the assumption to prove the point. (The quotation from Brien Foerster is part of the image below as found online.) As you can see, in the first photo the pointer is aiming at two small holes before the foramen magnum. These are the foramen ovales. They do not appear in the elongated skulls photographed by Woodward, but they are present in the one photographed by Foerster. The skulls Woodward photographed also seem to be in rough shape; I wonder if they were partially fossilized and if there is calcification that might have covered over the holes. Their presence in other elongated skulls argues against this being a genetic trait of Nephilim. In a quick review of the archaeological literature, I found references in some articles to the foramen ovales being filled in or sealed up in partially fossilized skulls. Admittedly, it is a topic so obscure that virtually nothing has been written about it. Woodward added that the cheek bones were enlarged beyond what a normal skull would exhibit, and he claims that the foramen magnum’s anatomy is “reversed” from “normal” human anatomy, with the bony “slot” into which the spine slides appearing in the front rather than the rear of the hole. It seems difficult to believe that no anatomist in two centuries had caught on to the entire anatomy being backward. It is perhaps telling that while claiming genetic origins for traits like these, he also suspects that some of the features around the foramen magnum, the foramen condyles, became robust because of the unbalanced weight of the elongated skull sitting atop them, implying that this was an acquired characteristic due to stress and not a genetic trait. Woodward offers a testable hypothesis: In announcing his belief that the Paracas people are a “new subspecies,” he says that they “undoubtedly had a longer neck” to compensate for their misplaced foramen magnum. This should be easy enough to establish. The skulls didn’t come from nowhere, and sure at least some have bodies whose locations are known. Do no Peruvian museums have complete skeletons with elongated skulls? Based on his skull analysis, Woodward declares that the skulls came from “far Eastern Europe” or “the Middle East,” apropos of nothing. He claims that they were a genetic isolate and were “pushed out” when “wars” (presumably he means those of the invading Jews after the Exodus) pushed them out of God’s country. I need not point out that this makes no sense and has no relationship to the bones. As the interview drew to a close, Woodward explained his research process. Woodward said that his mentor, Hiram Gregory, cautioned him to examine the Paracas people’s epigenetics, or how gene expression can vary according to environmental or other non-genetic factors, but Woodward said that his belief that these people represented an isolated remnant of pre-Flood Europeans meant that “epigenetics would not have been a concern.” This isn’t right. He further confused the issue by wrongly defining epigenetics as “the flow of genetics into a population,” and he seems to have confused epigenetics with gene flow (gene migration). He mentions a number of scholars that he claims provided him with the information he used in his analysis:
From this, Woodward derived a faulty conclusion: He determined that if head binding does not affect the base of the skull, then any changes to the base of the skull must be genetic. He failed to eliminate other potential explanations before leaping the conclusion that we are looking at a confounding mixture of (a) European, (b) Fallen Angel, and (c) new subspecies of human DNA. The problem is that Woodward started out doing the right thing, asking more qualified scholars for help. But he asked them before he started examining the skulls and without showing them the skulls or asking for their opinion on his findings once he made them. Thus, he is applying hypothetical and general statements made by these experts as support for specific claims they never evaluated. A better approach might have been to ask the experts for their opinion on these specific skulls and whether there were alternative explanations for the features identified. The claims Woodward makes for the impossibility and strangeness of these skulls, as it turns out, don’t entirely harmonize with the scholarly literature, where distinct differences in the cranial base, face, and palate similar to those found by Woodward were discovered and analyzed in 1992. An article in the American Journal of Physical Anthropology reported that: Fronto-occipitally reshaped Ancon [prehistoric Peruvian] crania are significantly different from normal in the vault, cranial base, and face. The vault is compressed along an anterior-superior to posterior-inferior axis and expanded along a mediolateral axis in modified individuals. The cranial base is wider and shallower in the modified crania and the face is foreshortened and wider with the anterior orbital rim moving inferior and posterior towards the cranial base. A second article that year by some of the same authors determined—surprise, surprise!—that head-binding also causes the mandible to take on a slightly wider and shallower form, meaning that it creates, as Woodward terms it, a more C-shaped rather than U-shaped jaw. (Other studies had different findings, which some scholars attribute to differences in head-binding techniques, which are still not entirely understood.) Moreover, a 2003 study of Peruvian skulls by two French scholars found that head binding produces noticeable changes in the basiooccipital area near to the foramen magnum, resulting in a foreshortened rear of the skull, a foramen magnum further back, and the other basic changes Woodward attributes to “subspecies” genes. The article provides this useful graphic comparing a morphologically “normal” skull (solid line) with an elongated one (dashed line) when the skulls have been controlled for size and the location of key features to produce a scientifically accurate comparison of the complete skull rather than selecting only one measurement to compare between them. As you can see, when compared scientifically and centered in a fixed point in the anatomy, rather than compared in one single measurement as Woodward did, all of the morphological differences he observed fall within the expected variation. He got fooled by the projection of the face and the foreshortening of the rear of the skull, making it look like the foramen magnum is farther back in the skull, when really the features at the front and back of the skull have been remodeled.
Woodward finished with the claim that the sagittal suture is missing in these skulls, but here again this feature has been recognized in bound and elongated skulls for more than a century and attributed to the pressure of binding forcing premature closure, as Christine White reported in a 1996 study in the American Journal of Physical Anthropology, and which can be found in literature going back to the Victorians. So, while I don’t have any definitive explanation for the foramen ovales in the Paracas skulls, nearly all of the other identified features have already been researched and discussed in academic literature, which somehow Woodward has either chosen to reject in favor of a Biblical fantasy or does not know. Basically, it seems to come down to a case of an inexpert researcher imagining he has discovered the unknown when the answers have already been published.
37 Comments
Jim
3/2/2018 10:04:02 am
"Interview ",, lol, the whole thing sounded scripted to me.
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Dr RJ Nicholas
3/25/2019 12:25:52 am
So what about their claims that these beings came from near the Black Sea (claiming to have proven this by DNA testing)?
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3/25/2019 01:48:26 am
In short, their aDNA tests were amateur-hour. While they made some attempt to avoid contamination, they simply didn't have the expertise to do it correctly. People who do aDNA testing as a profession know that contamination is an almost certainty. They take steps to limit it as much as possible and to account for what they can't eliminate.
Dunior
3/2/2018 10:14:11 am
Its kind of funny to see all these ancient aliens guys jockey to make their theory a reality so they at least have the illusion of making some dough. This seems to be the common denominator in alternate views like this. Money. Also fascinating is how many blatant scam artists are working this. This stuff is so whacked that I wonder if these guys really believe it themselves? The alien mummy thing last year caused a noticeable increase in far out claims like this including the UFO door in the face of Mt. Adams at the UFO ranch. You just cant make this stuff up. Or can you? I think Jason should do an expose' on the ECETI UFO ranch.
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Rich
5/10/2018 12:21:59 pm
Your point is interesting however biased it may equally be but to the opposite view. Essentially, your approach is based on an erroneous (meaning incorrect) assumption - there simply are no aliens possible so any claims (even if supported by irrefutable evidence - which this isn't but that's beside the point) is meaningless and any discussion about it a waste of time. Your assumption of course flies in the face of the many millions of people around the world that have either :
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Doc Rock
3/2/2018 12:12:18 pm
I would bet a case of good beer that whatever crap Woodward is selling as information from Pete Gregory is not really an accurate rendering of what Gregory said.
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Americanegro
3/2/2018 12:35:47 pm
"Their presence in other elongated skulls argues against this being a genetic trait of Nephilim."
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Machala
3/2/2018 12:42:07 pm
Brien Foerster wouldn't know the difference between a foramen magnum and foramen condyles, if he tripped over them, but if there's a buck to be made, he'll swear that a black crow is a minister.
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Only Me
3/2/2018 12:46:42 pm
>>He also claims that the openings allowing for nerve and blood vessel attachments for the muscles that control the jaw, the foramen ovales, were missing “and there was no place for them.”<<
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Kal
3/2/2018 01:42:28 pm
Those skulls are of humans. The ancient people of some places bound babies' heads, probably for rituals. This might even still be present in some very distant tribes. Have these jokers analyzed any modern examples? I am pretty sure there is at least one tribe that still does that, featured in NatGeo some years ago. Then you can compare them with a living descendant, or at least someone copying the look of the older people.
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Machala
3/2/2018 03:32:47 pm
"...And did they get permission for Peru to be messing with ancient skulls? I doubt it. "
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Rich
5/10/2018 12:35:23 pm
You ad homonim attack is unwarranted. Forester has gained credibility locally as a tour guide and businessman in Peru and this carries some credible weight locally. Regardless to the fact he isn't a professional in biological studies and research, the hot topic of "alien genetics" prevents his access to many scientists that are otherwise normalized to be prejudicial against it for fear of professional repercussions from their employers who are typically ignorant or are fearful themselves to speak out.
Americanegro
3/2/2018 05:22:15 pm
Please to be explaining the mechanism for a circular hole in a bone to get bigger.
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V
3/4/2018 04:32:18 pm
The same way the bones themselves get bigger: bones are living tissue and do in fact get larger as the human body grows. The physical diameter of the eye sockets in a child's skull--other holes in bone--is smaller than that of an adult's.
Americanegro
3/4/2018 05:50:44 pm
I might have made the same mistake but I didn't. The eye socket is NOT a hole in a bone. It is in fact SEVEN bones. If A bone around A hole in THE bone grows, shouldn't the hole get smaller rather than larger? 3/2/2018 03:17:22 pm
Great work, Jason. I've been pondering how to say nearly exactly what you've so eloquently put together above. I've started a couple of the videos these guys have made once or twice and had to shut them off each time because of the outright ignorance and nonsensical conclusions that have preceded every bit of their work.
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3/2/2018 04:22:46 pm
In the video, Woodward shows how they measured. Basically, the back of the skull being squished in, the foramen magnum looked superficially like it was too close to the back of the skull because they assumed that the back of the base of the skull doesn't change shape. So they measured from the center of the palate (I think--I don't feel like watching again!) to the center of the foramen magnum and found it is 1 cm longer than in a normal skull. But they didn't account for the changes to the face and jaw, which is where the measurements get thrown off.
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Jim
3/2/2018 04:49:17 pm
I would like to know how they established normal.
Jim
3/2/2018 04:51:19 pm
oops, "Smartie"
Americanegro
3/5/2018 01:21:08 pm
Worst Halloween candy ever. Just give me a razor blade instead.
Matt
3/3/2018 08:20:22 pm
Almost 500 views (as at March 4). Assuming some of them are curious readers of this blog, I'd say he isn't exactly setting YouTube alight with this video. Though it is about 100x more views than it deserves.
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Matt
3/3/2018 08:22:55 pm
OK so I looked at the "Likes" total not the views total. With those research abilities I've decided it's time for me to get into fringe archaeology.
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Jim
3/3/2018 09:00:25 pm
If you need a degree or five for your bio, you can get them at Mickie Mouse University,,,,,, er, sorry, Pacific International University, the same place Marzulli was awarded an honorary doctorate by his buddy/mentor for writing the fictional Nephilim Trilogy.
Jim
3/3/2018 09:29:19 pm
By the way, this was the Pacific International University's president:
V
3/4/2018 04:35:15 pm
...okay, so based on the logic presented by Woodward, Chinese women who underwent foot-binding are a different "subspecies" and cubical watermelons are also a subspecies...despite, in both cases, a plethora of documented evidence of precisely how the changes to the bone happen.
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Machala
3/4/2018 05:09:21 pm
Following Woodward's logic, would he call the Mayans a "subspecies" because they hung a stone with tied with a piece of string between their baby's eyes to achieve crossed eyes, and used boards to flatten and elongate the baby's skull ?
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Americanegro
3/4/2018 05:52:26 pm
"people who wear plugs instead of earrings"
Jim
3/4/2018 06:39:46 pm
People with scars and tattoos are from a different subspecies.
Rich
5/10/2018 12:48:10 pm
I'm no fan of the presenters but you guys are just as bad- the "it's so stupid to be true so let's discount it all club".
Peter Daughtrey
3/7/2018 05:51:28 pm
There remains a mystery. What explanation is there for similar ancient skulls being discovered on different continents and an island? Namely Egypt, South America and Malta.
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3/7/2018 06:01:25 pm
I should think the explanation is much the same for why people on different continents wear jewelry, paint themselves, or practice tattooing.
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Peter Daughtrey
3/12/2018 07:43:32 pm
Sorry Carl, you cannot compare the things we do that are driven by the basic sexual urge we all have to make ourselves more attractiv hade with the weird practice of binding babies heads with boards ...Maybe the fact that several Egyptian Pharaohs and Queen Nefertiti had extendec skulls had something to with it?
Conan O'Brian's Nipple
3/13/2018 11:25:08 pm
It's like you don't understand the difference about tattooing. It's not (traditionally) about making oneself attractive any more than circumcision or the more barbaric clitoridectomy is. It's a body modification (permanent unlike jewelry or face painting or a nice fedora) that tells a story/history or identifies group allegiance.
Jim
3/7/2018 11:49:38 pm
Marzulli interview alert:
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Jim
3/8/2018 12:14:44 am
Almost forgot, more crap stating they must be "long necks".
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Sunder
2/11/2019 03:26:51 am
Perhaps mitochondrial DNA sequence has already given some clues on the maternal origin of some test subjects. Hope comparative genomic DNA sequence information would shed more light on the so called physical anomalies of these skulls.
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Matthew
10/29/2021 01:56:14 am
I read blogs like this about as critically as most people should probably read the scientific literature they cite in them but somehow never seem to.
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