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Marco Rubio Distracts Media with Hot Air About UFOs

7/22/2020

41 Comments

 
This past week, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) made some controversial statements about UFOs when questioned about the Senate Intelligence Committee’s insertion of a requirement in legislation that the U.S. intelligence community produce a detailed reported about flying saucers. Rubio’s comments attracted a lot of attention an also served the more important purpose of distracting media attention from the ongoing catastrophe of Florida’s COVID-19 response and the Republican senate conference’s failure to reach an agreement on a plan to prop up the economy as the disease spreads uncontrollably. But, hey, a space alien! Over there! Look!
Specifically, Rubio said the following:
We have things flying over our military bases and places where we’re conducting military exercises and we don’t know what it is and it isn’t ours. Frankly, if it’s something outside this planet that might actually be better than the fact that we’ve seen some sort of technological leap from the Chinese or Russians or some other adversary that allows them to conduct this sort of activity. That to me is a national security risk and one we should be looking into.
Many ufologists treated this statement as an admission that flying saucers come from another world, though, really, Rubio’s statement hypothetically suggests that he would rather find out space aliens were buzzing us than that our enemies had superior technology.
 
In that assessment, Rubio’s views are identical to those of the U.S. Army Air Forces (the predecessor of the Air Force) and even the first UFO believers in the summer of 1947. In late June of that year, Kenneth Arnold originally suggested that flying saucers were U.S. military aircraft. After the Air Forces denied this publicly in the days after Arnold’s sighting (and more emphatically repeated the same to the FBI), speculation raged that the craft belonged to the Soviets, leading to arguments that space aliens would be preferable to Reds since America did not want its enemy stealing a march. Arnold adopted the space alien line in early July 1947, and the rabidly anti-communist U.S. government quickly fell in line, tolerating and sometimes encouraging space alien speculation to help cover up Cold War activity.
 
The more things change, right?
 
Rubio went on to claim in a CBS News interview that he has received UFO reports for the past ten years and that nobody know what UFOs are:
I’ve seen reports on this now for the better part of a decade. Other countries have had similar reports and so, but for our perspective is, there is someone flying in the airspace that no one else is allowed to fly in and we don’t know who it is and it isn’t something we have. We need to know what that is. […] If we can’t determine what it is, then that’s a fact.
Ufologists are very excited about these words, though at face value they discount much of ufology’s belief in secret U.S. government UFO crash retrievals and embassies to space aliens. Rubio’s “reports”—which he does not actually define as U.S government records of engagement with space aliens, and might just as easily refer to any UFO-adjacent material, in or out of government—tell him that no one knows what flying saucers are. If true, then the UFO program has so far been a failure and there remains no evidence of space aliens. If false, then Rubio doesn’t know the actual truth and his statements must be discounted as propaganda or lies. It’s a no-win cloud of hot air.
41 Comments
Joe Scales
7/22/2020 09:33:07 am

All well and good to go after politicians who can be linked to any sort of "UFO's are aliens" perspective, or that play upon same. However, the quote below is simply the sort of politicking that runs counter to any sort of claimed capability on your part for "complex analysis":

"Rubio’s comments attracted a lot of attention an also served the more important purpose of distracting media attention from the ongoing catastrophe of Florida’s COVID-19 response and the Republican senate conference’s failure to reach an agreement on a plan to prop up the economy as the disease spreads uncontrollably. "

It's just bullshit politicks man; and unfortunately, it's not beyond you. Parroting political talking points. You really want that to be your epitaph?

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Jim
7/22/2020 10:54:07 am

For a guy that can't even spell politics,,,,,,,,,

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Kent
7/22/2020 07:28:48 pm

That's like saying Aleister Crowley couldn't spell magick.

Jim Davis
7/23/2020 11:56:25 am

A few years back I had decided to purchase the Kindle edition of Jason's "The Cult of Alien Gods: H.P. Lovecraft And Extraterrestial Pop Culture: H. P. Lovecraft and Extraterrestrial Pop Culture".

Then I noticed the editorial review from Publishers Weekly:

"Though the writing is engaging and the topic intriguing, readers will be frustrated by Colavito's frequent forays to the soapbox."

and changed my mind.

I really appreciate Jason's top notch scholarship but I find his insistence on mixing it with his politics wearisome.

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Pluto Swint
7/23/2020 12:30:04 pm

Just who is this bullshit politicks man? First time that I have heard of him.

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Not the Comte de Saint Germain
7/23/2020 06:36:38 pm

Lucky you.

Bezalel
7/28/2020 05:03:21 pm

Scales
You would not claim bullshit politicks if Dems were the target

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Joe Scales
7/29/2020 10:06:45 am

Well, should our host choose to parrot Republican talking points or make tenuous stretches to link Democrats with the Fringe, you might find out otherwise. Absent same, you are left solely with your assumption that by being critical of complex analysis tainted with partisan politics, I am therefore Jason's political opposition. That's why you'll never get me. Ever. A flaw in your reasoning, not mine.

Jim
7/29/2020 12:53:22 pm

Joe Scales: 8/29/2018 10:07:00 am

"When the DNC claimed they were "hacked" during the 2016 election, instead of engaging the FBI they contacted the president and CSO of CloudStrike, Shawn Henry to investigate. It was his firm's investigation that concluded the DNC had been hacked by "Russians", which was then bought by each and every subsequent review."

"Though confident in what I'm talking about and the undisputable facts set forth above"

"I don't care who he votes for, and I'm not pushing partisan political ideology. Yet no matter how many times I make this clear, partisans will assume otherwise and make noise accordingly."

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Well that didn't age well huh Joe ?
Joe parroting Republican talking points,,,,oops
Is it still a hoax Joe ?
Your ensuing attempt to discredit CloudStrike rather than the actual evidence was rather laughable.
Is It still a hoax Joe ?

You sure try hard to deny your political bent, which is so blatantly obvious that you make a mockery out of yourself each and every time you do it.

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And then there is this:

"In regard to political comments by our host, what I've complained about were unfair slurs and stretches, along with inaccurate paraphrasing of sources which gave our host the appearance of sloppiness in his work and ignorance with his perceptions."

My God, what a hypocrite you are.
Wrongly paraphrasing and trying to alter the meaning of what Jason has said has been a staple of your attacks on him for a long time !!
You constantly criticize Jason for crap you yourself have made up and attributed to Jason.

How many times have I pointed this out Joe ?
How many times ?

Joe Scales
7/29/2020 10:08:53 pm

Jim, you imbecile... I wasn't parroting anyone. I looked into Henry, the falsifier of history from the Amelia Earhart sitting on the dock of the bay fiasco, well before 2018 and NO ONE was talking about his connection with CrowdStrike and the DNC at that time. No one Jim, but me. No rightwing Republican talking points even existed on this one at that time... and tell you the truth, I haven't seen anyone else making the connection in Henry's regard.

Shawn Henry was wholly discredited by that Amelia Earhart show he pushed on NBC and its affiliates which aired on the History Channel. He even used a reverse image negative to push his bogus claims. You would think that skeptics might be skeptical of anything he says or does because of that bit of nonsense.

The irony of the entire thing... the point you miss Jim... because you're an imbecile... is that folks here wouldn't go after Henry, a falsifier of history, because to do that would disrupt their Russian collusion narrative. And yeah Jim... you can hang on to that one. Russians. And somehow think it was me that's been debunked.

Now I do wonder what you will do should Jason truly end the comments here. Who will you cyberstalk next.

Jim
7/30/2020 12:12:36 am

Oh,,, Joe,,,,,,,,

A grainy photo purported to be a depiction of Amelia Earhart that turned out to not be her is your proof that the the Russians didn't hack the DNC ????
That's some investigative journalism on your part,,,,,,,,,,,,
Except the CIA and all the other Investigative branches of the US Government after investigating, unanimously agree With Crowdstrike's findings on the hacking. I wonder how they missed the non photo of Amelia Earhart ?

So in recap:

--The Russians are not responsible at all, Crowdstrike just made it all up, because,,, Amelia Earhart.
--You're not partisan.

Joe let me ask you a simple question that I am betting you will not answer.
Who hacked the DNC ?

Joe Scales
7/30/2020 09:54:07 am

"A grainy photo purported to be a depiction of Amelia Earhart that turned out to not be her is your proof that the the Russians didn't hack the DNC ????"

No Jim. Once again you don't understand what's being discussed, and it is you, my dogged ankle-nipper, that is paraphrasing me most disingenuously. My point was always that Shawn Henry deserved more scrutiny given his falsification of history. An issue that partisans here were quick to bury and excuse rather than investigate.

But did you know Jim, that Henry gave testimony before congress and that the transcript was only released a few months ago. Not sure if you read it, but I certainly did. My favorite part was when Adam Schiff inadvertently opened up a can of worms with his overconfident questioning. In doing so, it was revealed there was no smoking gun. It was all purely circumstantial. Russia was Henry's best guess. And yes Jim, that's my take on it. You won't find "best guess" in the transcript, so spare me that rebuke when you come back after your next google frenzy.

So who hacked the DNC if it was in fact "hacked"? I couldn't tell you. I just wouldn't believe Shawn Henry. You are certainly free to believe whatever you want in this regard. I care not Jim. I will not be dragged further down your toxic rabbit hole of imbecility.

Jim
7/30/2020 03:01:27 pm

"So who hacked the DNC if it was in fact "hacked"? I couldn't tell you."

The DNC was hacked, jebus, even trump says so. "Russia if you are listening"
Even though all US intel agencies plus Crowdstrike and others agree the Russians did it, Joe says no,,,, Amelia Earhart.
Amelia Earhart is the only evidence you have given to support your stance that the Russians didn't hack the DNC,,,don't quit your day job Joe.

" My point was always that Shawn Henry deserved more scrutiny given his falsification of history."

Complete and utter bullshit ! Nothing but character assassination by Joe scales. Overblown, QAnon slander.

He was given the evidence compiled by retired U.S. Treasury Agent Les Kinney, Doug Carner, a forensic analyst and Kent Gibson, a forensic analyst who specializes in facial recognition.
He agreed with the evidence and conclusions given prior to the travel brochure being discovered and gave his honest opinion, a wrong opinion perhaps, but no dishonesty nor falsification.
HE FALSIFIED NOTHING !!!

"My point was always that Shawn Henry deserved more scrutiny given his falsification of history."
" I looked into Henry, the falsifier of history"

Slander Joe, pure and simple.

Shawn Henry:

https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/pressrel/press-releases/shawn-henry-named-executive-assistant-director-of-the-criminal-cyber-response-and-services-branch

"In his 21 years with the Bureau, Mr. Henry has served in a variety of capacities at FBI Headquarters and in the field. Among his many assignments Mr. Henry has served as: a supervisory special agent in the Public Corruption Unit; chief of the Computer Investigations Unit in the National Infrastructure Protection Center; field supervisor of the Computer Crimes Squad for the FBI’s Baltimore Field Office; assistant inspector and team leader in the Inspection Division; assistant special agent in charge of the Philadelphia Field Office; and chief of the Executive Staff for the National Security Branch."

"In 2007, Mr. Henry was named deputy assistant director of the FBI’s Cyber Division, with program management responsibility for all FBI computer investigations worldwide. He was an original member of the National Cyber Study Group, which developed the Comprehensive National Cyber Security Initiative (CNCI). In September 2008, Mr. Henry became assistant director of the Cyber Division, where he played a central role in restructuring the FBI’s cyber strategy and investigative programs. "

Your depiction of Henry is nothing but a partisan hit job.

Scales: " An issue that partisans here were quick to bury and excuse rather than investigate."
BS, crap you spewed that everyone here recognized for what it was and ignored it because it came from you and was nonsense.

You are so partisan Joe that is not even up for debate.
And speaking of partisan Joe you don't get to use that word anymore when describing those opposed to trump and his sycophants.
The loudest and most persistent voices against the trump cabal are coming from prominent Republicans, non-partisan career military men, thousands of Prosecutors lawyers and legal experts from previous Administrations, both Democrat and Republican.
Trump is not a Republican and neither are the elected oath-breakers aiding and abetting the lawless and completely incompetent dictatorship he is forming.
My God, 150 thousand dead and no end in sight.
Secret police kidnapping and gassing your citizens.

Joe Scales
7/31/2020 10:45:34 am

"HE FALSIFIED NOTHING !!!"

You are unhinged, and in error. Again. Henry reversed a stock image of Earhart's navigator to better match the individual shown in the sitting on the dock of the bay photo when he set forth his conspiracy theory that the Japanese Government found Earhart and killed her. Then of course when that image was found to have predated Earhart's flight, Henry never took it back. None of it.

Shawn Henry remains a falsifier of history. And now he's your hero... simply because you want to somehow even a score with yours truly. You never will Jim. You just don't measure up, I'm afraid.

Jim
7/31/2020 06:31:45 pm

Weak sauce Joe.

" Henry reversed a stock image of Earhart's navigator"

Prove it, prove Henry reversed a stock image and not one of the two facial recognition experts that studied the photos to determine whether or not it was the same man.
Good God Joe, if facial recognition experts took a look at a reverse image to aid them in their comparisons of other photos, who are you to tell them how to conduct their business ?
Are you a facial recognition expert Joe ???

You have not shown one iota of evidence that Henry reversed this image, let alone falsified history.

Show me exactly what Mr. Henry did or said to falsify history. Something that is conclusively attributable to Mr. Henry, and something that proves he intentionally and knowingly lied or falsified data to mislead the public.

If you cannot do this Joe than shut up and apologize to Mr. Henry for your slanderous statements.

P.S.

" when he set forth his conspiracy theory that the Japanese Government found Earhart and killed her."

More crap, the theory that the Japanese Government found Earhart and killed her has been around since WW2.

That's right joe I have accused and proven you to be a falsifier of history.

This is just sloppy joe, (pun intended) you just can't help yourself can you ? You always let your political bias cloud your comments with a partisan slant and outright lies. Try the truth for a change, rather than dishonestly changing history and current events with your constant twisting of facts.

This is all academic now anyway joe
The fact of the matter is that even if you could prove your claims against Henry (highly doubtful) it doesn't change the fact that Russians hacked the DNC !

Whatever happened to Earhart does in no way let the Russians off the hook for hacking the DNC.
Your "investigation" into Henry is nothing but a big fat red herring.

Bon appetit.

Joe Scales
8/1/2020 08:48:12 am

argumentum imbecilic

Joe
8/1/2020 12:32:38 pm

So , no evidence whatsoever Joe ? Just your opinion ?
They looked at a reverse image photo, and this somehow proves Henry is an intentional falsifier of of history ?
Which then somehow proves the Russians didn't hack the DNC ?
LOL, " I looked into Henry, the falsifier of history"

You did ? And what did you find ?
Did you find a highly respected ex FBI agent running a Highly successful Cyber security business ?
If you looked into him, surely you found something more nefarious than looking at a reverse image photo, no ?

Other than looking at a reverse image photo, you have nothing ?
Nothing Joe, NOTHING.

C'mon Joe, accusing a highly respected man of falsifying evidence is a damm serious thing given how he makes his living.

Nothing to back up your opinion on this Joe ? Nothing ?

You cannot defend yourself and your fact free allegations ?


https://www.mpnnow.com/news/20170820/debunking-debunkers-of-history-channels-amelia-earhart-story

“The republic of the Marshall Islands is following your investigation of the Amelia Earhart mystery with great interest. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs, on behalf of the government of the republic of the Marshall Islands, confirms that the photograph found in the U.S. National Archives is the dock at Jabor on Jaluit Atoll.

“Jabor Dock was built in 1936. The events of this period are still recalled by our eldest citizens. The claim that Jabor Dock was already built in 1935 does not match the historical record, therefore, it would not have been possible for any photos to have been take of the Jabor Dock in 1935. The dock simply did not exist. The elders who confirmed that Amelia and her navigator were brought to Jabor are of the highest standing and reputation in our community. The Ministry hopes this helps (set) the record straight.”

Joe Scales
8/3/2020 10:50:44 am

For a guy that can't even spell Jim...

Joanna Hannigan link
7/22/2020 09:59:48 am

Excellent, succinct blog...adored the vibe and birds eye view in the lst paragraph and the 'le plus ca' reference. I just finished your (2012) book RE Theosophy Studies. It was most enlightening and pertinent! Thanks much.

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Kent
7/22/2020 07:44:05 pm

"COVID blah blah..." Jason, you are aware that Senators haven't represented their States since the 17th Amendment worked its magic and unless there's an exceptional case I'm unaware of Senators don't have a role in state government, right?

Sorry, but you're doing exactly what Trump did when he tried to pin the state of Elijah Cummings' district on Cummings.

The Robertson Panel Report certainly (that's code for "I'm guessing") didn't advocate encouraging belief in UFOs.

"sometimes encouraging space alien speculation to help cover up Cold War activity."

A couple examples wouldn't hoit.

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Jim
7/22/2020 10:27:31 pm

"Sorry, but you're doing exactly what Trump did when he tried to pin the state of Elijah Cummings' district on Cummings."

Not even close.
What Jason is pinning on Rubio and Trumps republicans is the continuing covid fiasco and the resulting economic disaster, both of which could have been nipped in the bud a long time ago by federal leadership, as demonstrated by almost every other country in world.
The scope of these largely avoidable disasters are of their own making due to incompetence and asinine political allegiance to the juvenile, idiotic bully in the White house.

Trump and the Republicans own this calamity lock, stock and barrel.

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Nick Danger
7/23/2020 11:23:55 am

+1

Kent
7/23/2020 05:11:39 pm

No, παλιάτσος, Jason specifically was talking about Florida.

Who was the guy in Greek mythology who was constantly nipping at ankles but never actually got a bite?

Jim
7/23/2020 10:22:18 pm

" Jason specifically was talking about Florida."

Nope:

"and the Republican senate conference’s failure to reach an agreement on a plan to prop up the economy as the disease spreads uncontrollably."

Kent
7/24/2020 02:42:13 pm

No, παλιάτσος.

Here is the FULL quote:

"Rubio’s comments attracted a lot of attention an also served the more important purpose of distracting media attention from the ongoing catastrophe of Florida’s COVID-19 response and the Republican senate conference’s failure to reach an agreement on a plan to prop up the economy as the disease spreads uncontrollably."

How public health and the economy falls into the Intelligence Committee's purview is unexplained and unexplainable.

Jim
7/24/2020 05:53:49 pm

LOL

First you throw out a ridiculously flawed comparison between Elijah Cummings and Marco Rubio, or as they say in Wikiville:

"False equivalence is a logical fallacy in which an equivalence is drawn between two subjects based on flawed or false reasoning. This fallacy is categorized as a fallacy of inconsistency.[1] A colloquial expression of false equivalency is "comparing apples and oranges"."

And then you claim " Jason specifically was talking about Florida.".
He wasn't, he was talking about Rubio distracting from the dire situation in Florida and the Republican senate failures.

Now, I am sure you will come up with some pretzel logic nonsensical word salad to continue an argument and try to score intellectual points in your own mind.

Tout a l'heure pitre Kent

P.S. having google translate doesn't make you clever.
You are like the prototypical American tourist that said "Oh, good thing you are Deutsch cause I hate those friggin Germans."

Kent
7/24/2020 07:35:53 pm

Again with the Wikipedia logical fallacies. Moving on...
James,

"And then you claim " Jason specifically was talking about Florida.".
He wasn't, he was talking about Rubio distracting from the dire situation in Florida and the Republican senate failures."

I'm unclear on the logical fallacy where talking about Florida is NOT talking about Florida.

Also unclear on what the Intelligence Committee has to do with public health and Florida. Do Senators just get to say "Forget about this agenda nonsense! I wanna talk about the alphabet and lasagna!" ?

Pretty sure that's not how it works, but of course James knows better.

The analogy between Jason and Trump :: Rubio and Cummings is spot-on. I understand how you as an idiot didn't get it. James.

Imagine a Borat voice saying this: You are not going to get this ankle meat. James.

James, you are not good at this.

Jim
7/24/2020 08:57:09 pm

"The analogy between Jason and Trump :: Rubio and Cummings is spot-on. I understand how you as an idiot didn't get it. James."

Really, Kent,,,Really ??

Wow, OK, I will explain it to you, I will type very slowly.

Trump, Rubio and Co. are directly responsible for the crapstorm consuming Florida, they caused it, many thousands of deaths !
Florida had months of extra time to prepare even after New York got hit. Following Trumps lead, they squandered the time and when the crap hit the fan they were caught COMPLETELY unprepared.
Not only that, but they continue to this day to ignore the severity of the disaster and trade human lives for power. They knowingly sacrifice the lives of the ones they have sworn to protect for what ?
This is so despicable Kent, and yet you condone it ?


On the other hand, Elijah Cummings criticism by Trump was unjustified.
Unlike Rubio and Trump, Cummings did not cause the problems that Stumpy laid at his feet and blamed him for. It was all Trump BS.

"False equivalence is a logical fallacy in which an equivalence is drawn between two subjects based on flawed or false reasoning. This fallacy is categorized as a fallacy of inconsistency.[1] A colloquial expression of false equivalency is "comparing apples and oranges"."

Kent
7/25/2020 01:38:36 am

Yes, James. I get it. Trump bad. The analogy wasn't Rubio and Cummings, it was Jason and Trump. How stupid one has to be to not get that is an interesting question, one I will leave for those smarter than me. Rest easy James.

Kent
7/25/2020 04:13:34 am

James.

"Trump, Rubio and Co. are directly responsible for the crapstorm consuming Florida, they caused it, many thousands of deaths !"

Yeah, guess we need a Committee to investigate that! The President and one Senator, neither of whom are involved in state government caused all that.

Oh, James. You are such a hoser. You had your chance in the 1800s and you blew it.

Larry storch
7/23/2020 05:26:46 pm

“Jason, you are aware that Senators haven't represented their States since the 17th Amendment worked its magic.”


US Senators have continued to “represent their states” in Congress since the 17th Amendment was ratified. The Amendment merely requires that US Senators be elected by popular vote in the states which the represent — they were previously chosen by state legislatures without direct elections.

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Not Kent
7/22/2020 11:59:27 pm

Shut up, and go watch this. We'll speak about it later...



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfryt3TILx0

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B L
7/23/2020 02:47:39 pm

Politics.....again?!! Come on!!!

"Rubio’s comments attracted a lot of attention and also served the more important purpose of distracting media attention from the ongoing catastrophe of Florida’s COVID-19 response and the Republican senate conference’s failure to reach an agreement on a plan to prop up the economy as the disease spreads uncontrollably."

Hahaha!! "Attratcted a lot of attention"? A quick Google search for "Rubio UFO" gets you a whole 2 hits on the first page that aren't more than a week old. "Distracting media attention"? Strange.....I'm a bit of a news junkie and hadn't heard this until you devoted an entire bolg post to it. It really hasn't slowed the media from criticizing the COVID response very much if at all.


As kooky as Scott Wolter is, at least he has a degree in an area semi-pertinent to his favorite subject matter. Sporting a "coexist" bumpersticker on your 2013 Prius are pretty sketchy political science credentials.

And, cue the Coliviton Political Opinion Echo Chamber.......

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Jim
7/23/2020 06:50:25 pm

Coliviton ???

Person, woman, man, camera, TV

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Kal
7/23/2020 05:42:25 pm

Summer 1947, unknown weather balloon or spy balloon crash landed near Roswell. Air Corps sent out to retrieve it. It is Russian. It was taken back to the base. No aliens, just a rusky spy toy. And some farmer got a piece of it, but it was later retrieved decades, afterward.

Rubio is just being a distraction.

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E.P. Grondine
7/24/2020 11:06:04 am

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/23/us/politics/pentagon-ufo-harry-reid-navy.html

Top of the news at yahoo.A whole lot more "fun" than the uninvited deployment of US troops in Portland and Chicago or the virus sweeping our nation or the Russian hacks in 2016. Oh well.

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expat link
7/24/2020 12:26:42 pm

In a related blog...

https://dorkmission.blogspot.com/2020/07/nyt-chases-ufos-again.html

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cverrastro@yahoo.com link
7/26/2020 01:53:15 pm

I've known "Little Rubio" since he was a pup. If there has ever been a more poorly informed grandstander without a moral code or any semblance of a commitment to public service... Oh, wait,... Trump. Never mind.

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Kent
7/26/2020 07:42:09 pm

You don't know him, you're just slightly older than him. Maybe. By your logic I've known John Mayer since he was a virgin. So what?

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Jim
7/27/2020 10:15:48 am

Atta boy Kent, call someone a liar because "maybe".

" By your logic I've known John Mayer since he was a virgin. So what?"

Asinine. Also another case of false equivalence as a logical fallacy.




Charles Verrastro link
7/27/2020 01:03:49 pm

I swore I would not get into the gutter of ad hominem crosstalk on this site, but I am much (sadly) much older than Marco. In fact I knew his parents before he was born. I knew him when he was a Mormon, for God's sake (no pun intended). Heck, my uncle was invited to his sister's wedding to the entertainer Carlos Ponce.
Having taught ESOL and Citizenship classes in South Florida for 36 years many of my contacts and friends were Marielitos. Many are still angered over Marco's early campaigning as the son of parents fleeing from Communism when in fact they left Cuba during the Battista regime and his father was ordered deported back when his deception was first discovered.
But I don't want to get into the politics of this. I actually liked Marco's early support of immigration issues, although he never grappled with the issues of "preferential politics" that gave Cubans carte blanche entrance while other ethnic refugees were summarily sent to Krome Detention camp.
But it wasn't until he crumpled before Trump and went from "Little Marco" to Trump's lapdog (just look at today's news where he defends the recent China bashing and suppression of mail-in voting).
I went through the same disappointment with our current governor. Although I didn't vote for him when he campaigned as "More Trump than Trump", he started off his administration as surprisingly moderate and progressive on many issues. Then the virus hit and he became just another Republican glove puppet, which is why I am a virtual prisoner at home while I cannot even see my doctors or schedule needed surgery at the hospital (I was kicked out shortly after admittance when they needed to take over 2 additional floors for Covid use).
Sorry for the apparent rant, but my initial post was simply pointing out that politicians are even less reliable than "Ancient Astronaut Theorists", who invariably say "Yes!" when it suits their interests, and create 'alternate facts' or just 'make stuff up' hoping no one fact checks them..


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