Of course they went there for a reason, it is clearly stated in the journals which you obviously have not read yet. It is also obvious Earl Henry wrote his entries as it was his obligation that becomes apparent upon reading them. Fugitive Templars that survived after 1307 and fled to Scotland were protected by the dominant clans after serving in Bannockburn. However, since they had been outlawed the order began to evolve into something different. For example, celibacy demanded by the Church was no longer necessary and to continue they had to procreate. I don’t really want to touch the weird question of membership in the Templar order changing from a voluntary community to a hereditary cult, though it raises awkward problems in terms of explaining just why induction was good enough before 1307 but bloodline membership became necessary thereafter. Given the number of cults in the world, presumably even heretics could recruit. I am more interested in the second paragraph quoted above. Wolter claims to have examined some of the pages of the “original” diaries and to believe them to be copies of medieval documents. This isn’t like when Classical scholars study medieval copies of Greco-Roman originals. As we know from his own introduction to the “translations” of the journals, the documents are allegedly from the nineteenth century, which even taken at face value would provide no evidence for a genuine medieval origin. Nineteenth century paper is easy enough to come by—frequently cut from the blank pages of old books—and it is much easier to forge Victorian documents than fourteenth century ones. How might Wolter have found errors in Diana Muir’s “translations” if the original Latin texts were allegedly disposed of by burial and unavailable for comparison? I am doubly curious since Wolter also does not read Latin even if such pages were to exist. I wonder if these “errors” instead represent a difference between the “translation” and either geographic or historical data. You have to love the last line where he said that the Templars traveled to America frequently but didn’t tell anyone about it. Then, pray tell, how does Wolter know this? He doesn’t seem to recognize how speculation builds upon speculation, nor that inferences based on inferences do not congeal into facts. There is no evidence of any Templar voyage westward from Europe. The only genuine medieval text to refer, even tangentially, to it is a coerced confession that makes no mention of western lands. The speculation about Templar voyages to America began as the fever-dream of the racist Frenchman Eugène Beauvois, who based the claim on fanciful linguistic sleight of hand, bad translations, and an instinctive belief that Mexicans were racially inferior. This claim dates back only to the twentieth century. Such is the stuff dreams are made of. Diana Muir, posting on Wolter’s blog, claims that some of the “later” Sinclair family journals were written in Old English. These were dated to the fifteenth or sixteenth century or later, and I am torn between wondering if Muir and Wolter are unaware that Old English refers to the form of English used before 1150 CE, or if they don’t know how to refer to Middle English and Early Modern English by their proper names. But before I go today, I want to offer this astonishing illustration that appeared on the Ancient Origins website recently as part of an article on the question of whether the Knights Templar worshiped Baphomet, the goat-headed occult deity. The image depicts Freemasons dressed as Knights Templar carrying the Baphomet the Sabbatic Goat in solemn procession: You will recognize the goat as the image of Baphomet drawn by occultist Éliphas Lévi and which has no real connection whatsoever to the Baphomet the Catholic Church accused the Templars of worshiping. What Ancient Origins left out is that the image appeared in a book by yet another Frenchman, Léo Taxil, which was a spurious exposure of Freemasonry that connected the Masons to devil-worship. The four-volume work was a sensation in fin de siècle Paris, until Taxil confessed the hoax in 1897. Taxil professed to be astonished that anyone took him seriously. In a 1907 interview he said: “The public made me what I am; the arch-liar of the period,” confessed Taxil, “for when I first commenced to write against the Masons my object was amusement pure and simple. The crimes I laid at their door were so grotesque, so impossible, so widely exaggerated, I thought everybody would see the joke and give me credit for originating a new line of humor. But my readers wouldn't have it so; they accepted my fables as gospel truth, and the more I lied for the purpose of showing that I lied, the more convinced became they that I was a paragon of veracity. The trouble is that the Templar / Mason / goddess claims have nothing more to them than Taxil’s hoax.
But the real question might arise when remember that the Holy Bloodline hoax that underlies so much of this nonsense in its modern form was the work of still another Frenchman. What is it with France and these bizarre conspiracies? And, more importantly, why do they not stay in France?
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Jim
11/6/2018 09:38:06 am
Without blood lineage Wolter cannot be the Templar he thinks he is when he refers to the Templars as we.
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Joe Scales
11/6/2018 09:45:02 am
And strangely enough, Wolter now appears more sympathetic. I mean... him getting a new cyber-stalker and all.
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Jim
11/6/2018 10:03:04 am
Do you think Muir was scammed or is in on the hoax ?
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Joe Scales
11/6/2018 10:16:54 am
Not something I've even thought about considering Jim. Wolter is so damned stupid and has gone out of his way with his blog to confirm such an obvious dearth of intellect that engaging him there puts shooting fish in a barrel in a more competitive bracket. Sure, it was good sport for some to be more clever and lead him to even more lunacy, but even that became too easy; and in the end, rather boring.
FAKE INJUN
11/6/2018 10:44:08 am
My wife sometimes states I'm a genius. So, insightfully I kind of believe that she doesn't have a very high opinion of me.
FAKE INJUN
11/6/2018 10:52:05 am
But then again, she has a high school education... as do I.
COSMIC CONSCIENCE
11/6/2018 10:11:12 am
I think it is very important to investigate the pictures presented by the fringe groups. My analysis is simple... they worshiped the goat because it represents a man with hair and a beard. Most scholars lost their hair, they worship the part of themselves that they lost.
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Joe Scales
11/6/2018 10:19:29 am
"Templar are just one of the many cults who wish to be whole again. Right or wrong... it is their quest to be what they were, not as they are."
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FAKE INJUN
11/6/2018 10:28:40 am
That's the thousand dollar question!
BigNick
11/6/2018 10:53:09 am
Also PMC contracts in the middle east. It's a huge market
COSMIC CONSCIOUS
11/6/2018 10:23:44 am
Which do you prefer... the mind or the body?
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Monica Parkes
11/9/2018 11:59:00 am
Actually I've read the book by Ms. Muir and there's no mention of Baphomet worship anywhere. I think you guys are barking up the wrong tree. Her research seems pretty solid! One thing I was amazed by was the Sinclair family caring for the disavowed Templars who were hiding in Wemyss Caves along the Firth of Forth. If you look the caves up on the internet there are lots of Templar markings in the caves. She gives a pretty convincing argument. Wolter didn't write the commentary, she did.
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Jim
11/9/2018 12:23:25 pm
No, there is no evidence carvings in the caves are Templar. Just the usual popular Templar wild speculation.
Frank
11/6/2018 11:23:42 am
"What is it with France and these bizarre conspiracies? And, more importantly, why do they not stay in France?"
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American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/6/2018 11:34:20 am
I'm not so concerned with the purported use of Old English in the purported diaries though I wonder where Ms. Muir got her expertise. Notice I don't ask about Wolter's expertise.
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A Buddhist
11/6/2018 03:59:19 pm
Scotland, however, had its own form of English distinct from Old English: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Scots. And the Canterbury Tales are Middle English.
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American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/6/2018 05:25:50 pm
"Scotland, however, had its own form of English distinct from Old English:"
A Buddhist
11/6/2018 06:21:23 pm
American Cool "Disco" Dan: I am glad that you are least somewhat polite.
American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/6/2018 06:56:36 pm
You seem to enjoy arguing and are devoted to not being wrong, going so far as to rewrite an article YOU cited. Pity. Are you going to go door to door making sure people don't think what "I did not want people to think..."? But, if that's what you have to do...
A Buddhist
11/6/2018 07:52:41 pm
American Cool "Disco" Dan: I did not rewrite the article that I cited. Rather, I cited a different portion of it as well as another resource about varieties of Old English.
American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/6/2018 07:59:29 pm
Okay, I stand corrected. You rewrote your own post to make it less wrong. Step one is removing the stick from where it seems to be lodged. Step two is stop trying to coach people. Failing to do these things you bring impoliteness on yourself.
A Buddhist
11/6/2018 08:31:15 pm
American Cool "Disco" Dan: I, who so often urge others to correct what they have written in order to make their writings less wrong, would be worthy of vituperation as a hypocrite if I were unwilling to correct what I have written in order to make it less wrong.
American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/6/2018 08:37:58 pm
ALL you do Skeezix, is correct others and insult their various religions, calling their God an insane criminal.
A Buddhist
11/6/2018 08:45:50 pm
American Cool "Disco" Dan: It is better to insult an idea than to insult a person. And I do not say that YHVH is a criminal. Insane, yes, and evil, but no criminal.
American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/6/2018 09:22:21 pm
A criminal by any normal standard, killing already born babies, according to your version of the Old Testament.
A Buddhist
11/7/2018 08:52:13 am
American Cool "Disco" Dan: Why do you say that only in my version of the Bible YHVH kills babies? Do you interpret the flood narrative as having had no babies killed by YHVH?
American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/7/2018 10:05:32 am
You're right, I misremembered the Jataka Tale. I plead mad cow disease.
A Buddhist
11/7/2018 10:46:39 am
American Cool "Disco" Dan: We have different definitions of harmful speech. I call insulting a person and asking as part of a series of insults towards a person whether the person has considered committing suicide to be harmful speech, and define criticizing ideas and the conduct of entities that allegedly founded the ideas to be fine. You seem to hold the opposite view.
Monica Parkes
11/9/2018 12:02:49 pm
Just watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMS2VnDveP8 Scottish guys in an Elevator to prove that point! Also to be considered is they may have written in Old English so that others couldn't read them.
A C
11/6/2018 01:13:03 pm
lol at the one mason in 19th century dress in that 'Templar' picture.
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American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/6/2018 01:38:28 pm
"lol at the one mason in 19th century dress in that 'Templar' picture."
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Joe Scales
11/6/2018 03:43:10 pm
"Conspiracy theories and hoaxes have always been politically motivated."
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Frank
11/6/2018 04:55:07 pm
Directing your attention to idiots, are you now? So brash so bold, a short-winded court jester. Wamba the squire, no doubt?
Doc Rock
11/6/2018 01:26:26 pm
I believe that the Sinclair family came to the British Isles by way of the Norman conquest. Also pretty sure that for about 300 to 400ish years French was the dominant language among the nobility and royalty throughout much of the Isles. I think in many instances in Scotland there was a shift from French to Gaelic to Scots or more commonly from French to Scots rather than to Old English.
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Kal
11/6/2018 01:30:24 pm
And I reiterate again, "What does it matter if Wolter can convince people he is descended from some royal or important line?" He can't go to the bank with it. He knows it's made up, or some for of pathology, and made up. He and Muir are in on it, but not for the same end goals, surely. Muir is probably thinking it will sell more speculative fiction, and Wolter thinks if he can just 'hornswaggle' and other term for a gilded over piece of tin he bought in a thrift shop and sold for 80, or something. another into buying his bizarre comparison research about the Sincairs. In 2018, whi but the fringe really cares about what happened with a medieval Templar group that allegedly fled from France? What does it prove? Nothing.
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Jim
11/6/2018 03:13:03 pm
Cool, I translated that last part and it says:
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American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/6/2018 05:32:11 pm
I'm going to have to dive with a vengeance into verifying your translation.
Riley V
11/6/2018 06:23:16 pm
Mining to Montana soon.
Shane Sullivan
11/6/2018 06:45:11 pm
Riley, I cannot impress upon you how many times a day I say, "I'm riding a small tiny horse / His name is Mighty Little, he's a good horse".
American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/6/2018 07:35:49 pm
When Mighty Horse rocks he rocks a phat ass.
Zeno
11/17/2018 12:57:20 pm
Jim, the "us" is all the pseudonyms Diane is using since the real Diane would not be caught dead posting on this blog.
Teresa Parkes
11/16/2018 11:47:12 am
I noticed she just put up 3 new books on her blog, none related to royalty. If you have doubts about her academic credentials go to http://www.academia.edu/ She's widely published in addition to the genealogy work she does.
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American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/16/2018 12:42:40 pm
Academia.edu has 7 Powerpoint presentations. You're not making your case.
Zeno
11/16/2018 03:22:28 pm
Diana, oops, I mean Teresa, maybe you are adept at getting articles about education published but that does not mean anyone will buy this nonsense about Sinclair journals.
American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/16/2018 05:22:01 pm
It appears that in the case of academia.edu you just upload the Powerpoint slides yourself. It's not what academics mean by "publication".
Teresa Parkes
11/16/2018 10:31:12 pm
Sorry, not Diana. She wouldn't be caught dead posting on this blog. And like Monica, she has asked us not to defend her against a bunch of basement dwellers. So this is my last post. Try this one: "Handbook of Mobile Learning" edited by Zane Berge ISBN 978-0-415-50369-3, Chapter 48. Published by Routledge, published in 2013. I think that's pretty credible. Have any of you been published in peer reviewed academic journals? NOT!!!!!! I noticed she just put up pics of her CCLP award and 2007 Award for Distance Education. Who am I? Teresa Kanai, live in Hawaii on the big island. I teach Math for Univ of Phoenix. I know her because I used to teach for 1 World School. Get a life!
Monica Parkes
11/16/2018 10:41:11 pm
And my name is Naruesaporn Awrithruhannon. I'm from Bangkok in Thailand. I was a foreign exchange student in Atlanta in 2005 and Diana was my American Mom. I use the name Monica because it's shorter and I'm now married to Roland Parkes and live in the Midwest. I'm not Philyaw and I'm not Diana. GOOOODDDDDBBBBBYYYYYEEEEEE!!!
American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/16/2018 11:27:21 pm
"MONICA PARKES
American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/16/2018 11:32:04 pm
"TERESA PARKES
Jim
11/16/2018 11:46:56 pm
Teresa:
Jim
11/16/2018 11:51:59 pm
Teresa:
Joe Scales
11/17/2018 01:42:09 pm
Philjaw, you imbecile, you can't even keep your sock puppets straight. Teresa Parker has now become Teresa Parkes, which is your Monica sock puppet's last name.
TIBER TUNNEL
11/6/2018 02:29:19 pm
Thorval enters the arena-
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Jim
11/6/2018 03:34:37 pm
Jeff AdamsonNovember 5, 2018 at 7:12 AM
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Bob Weaver
11/6/2018 03:46:35 pm
Much more likely, bullshitted in English first and used a translator to make the fake Latin....which nobody will ever likely see because the dumpster digging diving retrieval tease will of course result in a lost cause that they are working on the spin description of already..
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Julie
11/11/2018 12:49:40 pm
Exactly what happened.
American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/6/2018 04:11:06 pm
A man who says "I know enough to be dangerous" "dove with a vengeance", vengefully translating (? or not) the 3 pages of photocopies he claimed to have.
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Teresa Parker
11/6/2018 07:27:02 pm
If you track down Diana Muir's website you'll see she is the CEO of Global Education Services. She has multiple degrees. She's no dummy. She's also a professional genealogist accredited by the Mormon Church back in the 1970s. She's probably trained in paleography and ancient languages if she's a genealogist of any sort. And YES, she's Mormon? Got something against Mormons? Why do you guys use her to poke fun at Wolter? Seems like you should read the journals and judge them on their own merit and whether or not they can find something to verify the contents such as artifacts? I doubt she meant "Old" English as in before 1152, just English older than what we use. I've read Wolter's blog and the last journals were written in understandable modern English during the 1770s or about. She also said there was some Scottish-Gaelic. Not old enough to include old Norse. Doubt she had trouble translating the English. Not certain I believe Templars were around before Christ but then, who cares? The journals represent history as we've never heard it. Don't be so close minded. And Colavito? If you'd really reached out to her, she would have answered. She answered me.
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American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/6/2018 08:16:08 pm
Yes, I have something against Mormons:
Jim
11/6/2018 09:27:03 pm
If she is so smart, why is she working with Wolter and Pulitzer ?
Bob Weaver
11/6/2018 11:31:10 pm
The burden of proof is on Muir. She claims she destroyed her proof. What more does a sane person need to know?
Doc Rock
11/7/2018 08:53:56 am
Teresa,
American Cool "disco" dan
11/7/2018 02:03:08 pm
"Accredited Genealogist and Professional Historian, Ph.D in Education, Masters in Future Studies and globally published writer on Online Learning."
Jim
11/7/2018 03:21:22 pm
"Professional Historian",,,,, yay,, someone bought one of her books.
Doc Rock
11/7/2018 04:29:23 pm
Jim,
Joe Scales
11/7/2018 05:01:40 pm
Getting back to professional genealogy, has anyone inquired what she charges to find ancient royalty she can relate to you?
Jim
11/7/2018 05:57:49 pm
Doc Rock, I agree she seems to be a very educated woman. The extent of her exaggeration is is unknown. Like you I'm not buying into her being qualified for this.
Julie
11/11/2018 12:57:00 pm
Given Diana's penchant for fiction, have you personally verified each of the degrees she claims? Have you verified that the Mormon Church still considered her to be an accredited genealogist or even that she ever was accredited?
Monica Parkes
11/9/2018 12:08:09 pm
Actually if you check out Diana's website, you'll see she is much more educated than any of us, even Wolter. 2 Ph.d's etc. Problem is she comes from a traditional historians point of view. I'm sure all of this is new to her. I also heard that the journals will be included in Wolter's new show and all the testing will be done on camera, most likely. Not 'all' the evidence is gone, they have a few original pages left, scores of photocopies of the journals and high quality pics of the map. You states in the intro to her book that she threw them away because someone convinced her they were a hoax and she was being set up. Gee, wonder who that was?
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Doc Rock
11/9/2018 12:46:29 pm
Monica,
Jim
11/9/2018 12:48:59 pm
"you'll see she is much more educated than any of us"
American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/9/2018 01:21:10 pm
"Actually if you check out Diana's website, you'll see she is much more educated than any of us, even Wolter."
Joe Scales
11/9/2018 03:45:19 pm
"... even Wolter."
Mike Morgan
11/9/2018 09:57:47 pm
Monica Parkes: "You states in the intro to her book that she threw them away because someone convinced her they were a hoax and she was being set up. Gee, wonder who that was?"
Jim
11/9/2018 11:32:00 pm
Sorry Mike still not buying It. lol
Jim
11/9/2018 11:33:14 pm
work
Mike Morgan
11/10/2018 02:07:22 am
Jim,
Jim
11/10/2018 02:41:18 am
Wise, very wise. I know of whom you speak.
Julie
11/11/2018 01:13:20 pm
I'm not finding any "Educational Leadership" degree available on the MIT.edu website. Maybe it is some other site using the initials "M", "I", and "T"?
Zeno
11/11/2018 03:26:34 pm
The Hawking Institute is a nonprofit registered in Moline, IL.
Monica Parkes
11/15/2018 11:21:07 am
In order to verify her degrees, accreditation by the Mormon Church and others you'd have to know her maiden name and her former married name. Good luck with that! As for expertise in reading Old English and such? You guys are clueless as to what a professional genealogist really does. Do you think research stops as you're going backwards and the records are no longer in English? Uh? No! I'm certain that over 45 years she's read thousands of of wills, probates, land records, manorial court rolls (Oh right! You don't know what those are!) vital records, census, armorial records and parish registers. I KNOW she's been trained in paleography. I took the same classes at BYU although I never took it as far as she has. She might not be able to translate more than the words that deal with personal names, born, married, died, dates, places and such but she can certainly read the letters and type them into a translator. She's translated several documents for me that were in German. And she doesn't charge anything for doing genealogy. She runs a genclass mailing list and answers questions freely, she even did Wolter and Huttons genealogy for free. Give her a challenge and have her do yours. Oh! Right! You'd have to actually tell us who you are! LOL And she didn't 'join' the One World School team, she's the creator. She's asked me not to response to your clueless rants. It only gives the moron who runs the blog more clicks on his site and more money in his pocket. Stop treating her like she's some 30 something. She's over 60 and old enough to be your mother's who are supporting your lazy asses. Show some respect. Not commenting anymore.
Jim
11/15/2018 03:20:45 pm
Monica,,,,, Why the big secret with regards to her qualifications ?
Jim
11/18/2018 10:08:49 am
PS, Monica:
Jim
11/6/2018 05:22:22 pm
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212867201494519&set=gm.461864497553662&type=3&eid=ARANxAwCTaIrMVzUB-CI-Q_ZTsG9PWS42j6FOsJvxFxpKKrK7HETC10cdHASJEQtzzmt89FYFQYKWaOt&ifg=1
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Monica Parkes
11/9/2018 12:15:27 pm
She started her educator career 2 years earlier as a "Substitute teacher". Duh! And all those courses? K-14? She wrote them herself over 30 years. She was named Global Educator of the Year in 2008, Missed that one, did you guys? Her genealogy books (12 this year) and the result of 45 years of research. She's run an online genclass mailing list and class for over 20 years helping other people. I know, because I'm a member of the genclass group. You guys are way out of your depth! Yes, she's a professional historian, but in the traditional sense. I believe her expertise is in Colonial America. Why independent publisher? Because it takes 2 YEARS to go through a 'real' publisher. Besides, your hero Jason Colavito is self-published too. What about that? Don't comment on something you haven't read. Talk about basement bottom dwellers with no life!
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Doc Rock
11/9/2018 01:03:44 pm
And it probably takes 2+ years to produce a music album/CD through a legitimate professional production company. That's why an album released thru RCA is generally going to be of much higher quality and will be taken much, much more seriously than one self-recorded by Billy Bob in his garage.
American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/9/2018 01:30:52 pm
Apples and Oranges, Cap'n. In the music business it's all about distribution pipeline and giving record company weasels opportunity to steal. Case in point: Joe Pass's Virtuoso #2 was recorded in 3 days. The Grateful Dead's first album was recorded in 4 days. Both are generally considered to be pretty okay.
Doc Rock
11/9/2018 01:53:25 pm
But who released the Dead's first album?
American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/9/2018 02:29:35 pm
"But who released the Dead's first album?"
Doc Rock
11/9/2018 02:44:06 pm
I knew it was Warner Brothers I just wanted to see you say it since it makes my point.
American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/9/2018 04:29:19 pm
Hello Cap'n. It was recorded in January 1967 and released in March 1967. I'd say that doesn't support your point.
Joe Scales
11/9/2018 07:46:12 pm
"Talk about basement bottom dwellers with no life! "
Julie
11/11/2018 01:19:43 pm
Global Educator of the Year in 2008 was Steven Couch.
Jim (not John)
11/11/2018 02:22:14 pm
Oh my.
Crash55
11/6/2018 10:01:25 pm
Why do people with these stupid Templar myths? Outside if France almost no Templar’s were convicted. There assets were transferred to the Hospitallers. The members either joined other orders such as the Hospitallers or were allowed to retire. The order had outlived it’s mandate and they got too involved in the matters of the French crown.
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American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/6/2018 10:13:07 pm
"too involved in the affairs of the French crown" is a gross oversimplification. Phillip the Fair owed them quite a bit of money.
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Crash55
11/7/2018 05:38:59 pm
True but I didn’t want to go into all of that. The whole thing was a way to exert power and get out of debt.
Basil Fawlty
11/6/2018 10:17:51 pm
"The members either joined other orders such as the Hospitallers or were allowed to retire."
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Torquemada
11/6/2018 10:30:03 pm
Well, they should have just confessed.
Crash55
11/7/2018 05:37:30 pm
That only happened in France.
Teresa Parker
11/13/2018 07:20:09 pm
Wrong website morons! http://cclpworldwide.com/eci/view-content/12/Award.html
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Jim
11/14/2018 07:16:29 pm
That " Future Life Institute" where she Is on the leadership team sure has some interesting characters.
Dan
11/6/2018 10:50:03 pm
"What is it with France and these bizarre conspiracies? And, more importantly, why do they not stay in France?"
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Joseph Craven
11/7/2018 01:01:09 am
Forget all this Templar nonsense, that's clearly a copyrighted statue of Baphomet. Somebody call the Satanic Temple so they can hop in a time machine and sue Éliphas Lévi.
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Joe Scales
11/8/2018 03:28:59 pm
I'm certain there are many who might expect Satanists to be more litigious than other religious groups. Present company excepted.
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Jim
11/7/2018 05:41:24 pm
BOOK 2 OUT,,,, yay
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American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/7/2018 05:49:25 pm
As I noted during the first Gulf War, the Templars were reputed to worship a mysterious Black Head and...
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Jim
11/7/2018 06:04:25 pm
Colin Powell,,,,,,I'll give you Colin Powell :
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Jim
11/8/2018 08:19:31 am
If you click on Preview under the photo of the book one can glean more information.
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Jim
11/8/2018 09:19:07 am
Also, the French established Port Royal on Nova Scotia in 1605 !!
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Doc Rock
11/8/2018 12:10:13 pm
Scotland established a short-lived colony in Nova Scotia around 1620 and sold titles of nobility along with large landholdings to those with the coin. I think this was during a brief period when the French lost control of the area or the Scots simply chose to contest it.
American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/8/2018 01:14:50 pm
The question arises, why would the French call it "New Scotland"? Were there no French placenames to stick "New" in front of?
Jim
11/8/2018 02:37:05 pm
Doc Rock, stop raining on my parade. Lol.
Doc Rock
11/8/2018 03:17:15 pm
Jim,
Monica Parkes
11/9/2018 12:20:49 pm
I think if you follow her on FB they've cut it down to 8 books, combining some of the authors. And the dates? 80 years? That's the date of journal, not the Baron of Nova Scotia. If you check your favorite resource Wikipedia, you'll find James Wemyss, Baron of Nova Scotia received land on Anticosti Island. They were given out for service to the Scottish crown, not to hide from the English who were in Nova Scotia! It was meant to encourage Scottish immigration to Canada and was part of the "The Nova Scotia Scheme" Don't know your history much do you? I've learned a lot from following her. maybe you should lurk on her page. You might learn something too. AND YES it seems America Unearthed is BACK if they're going to do it on camera.
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Jim
11/9/2018 12:33:22 pm
Nope both you and Muir got it wrong:
Dunior
11/15/2018 03:25:10 pm
There was no Baron of Nova Scotia in the sixteenth century at all. Those awarded Baronetcies of Nova Scotia were referred to as "Baronet" not Baron. If memory serves there was only one Baron of Nova Scotia and his name was William Alexander. There was no Baron of Nova Scotia prior to him.
Doc Rock
11/8/2018 01:27:49 pm
Acadie
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American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/8/2018 03:04:05 pm
The correct answer is:
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Monica Parkes
11/9/2018 12:25:07 pm
John and James were commonly interchanged sometimes even for the same person. Actually they were brothers. One was the son of the Earl of Wemyss and would be the future Earl of Wemyss The other one was given other Wemyss lands at Bogie, Lord of Bogie and the Baron of Nova Scotia which didn't really mean much after Nova Scotia was settled by the French, then the English. According to history the gggdau of Henry (Katherine) married Earl David Wemyss who was the Grandmaster of Scottish Rite Freemason of all Scotland. That how the two families tie together.
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Jim
11/9/2018 01:48:26 pm
Bogus:
American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/9/2018 01:50:01 pm
"John and James were commonly interchanged sometimes even for the same person."
Julie
11/11/2018 01:26:04 pm
John and James were commonly interchanged? In 45 years of doing genealogy and attending conferences both locally and in Salt Lake City, I have never heard of this.
Dunior
11/15/2018 05:41:49 pm
The "Scottish Rite" was an American invention. It was not established until 1801 in Charleston, South Carolina. So Scottish Freemasonry is somewhat different than that. None of the previous incarnations were known of as the Scottish Rite. So get your facts straight. It makes it sound like you don't know what you are talking about in addition to the other errors in previous comments. The first speculative Masons in Scotland were the sons of the Baron of Nova Scotia William and Anthony Alexander. They joined an operative Stone Masons lodge. William may have been the first Mason to step foot in what would become Canada. Welcome to the Thunderdome.
Jim
11/9/2018 01:09:47 am
It should also be noted that besides getting the first name wrong Muir also got the dates of birth and death wrong for the "Baron of Nova Scotia".
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Jim
11/9/2018 01:47:00 am
https://www.amazon.com/Lost-Templar-Chronicles-Vol-1353-1404/dp/1387760092
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Monica Parkes
11/9/2018 12:28:17 pm
Wikipedia? Really? garbage in garbage out. You've got to have a better source than that.
Jim
11/9/2018 12:54:10 pm
Wiki via Oxford Dictionary of National Biography:
Monica Parkes
11/9/2018 12:27:16 pm
So how's right about the dates? Muir who has the journals and first hand knowledge? Or generations of researchers who have 'guessed' at the dates because there are no parish registers for that time period? Don't trust the dates on any ancient pedigree. It's pure guessing based on dates on probates, land records and heraldry records which simply tell you that they were at 'least' 21 when they appeared on those documents. You guys don't much about genealogy do you?
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Doc Rock
11/9/2018 12:52:49 pm
They probably know about as much about genealogy as Muir does about Old English LOL.
Jim
11/9/2018 12:57:34 pm
Did the records also get the names wrong, or was that just Muir ?
American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/9/2018 01:53:37 pm
But she DOESN'T have the journals and you ARE in that chair Blanche!
Jim
11/9/2018 03:14:50 am
OMG,,, I just can't resist, Muir is speaking of Nicolo Zeno.
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Jim
11/9/2018 11:06:14 am
https://scontent.fyxe1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/45593351_10156273638382800_2614801421521911808_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_ht=scontent.fyxe1-1.fna&oh=855ab83630755569bab88c9f7516b08b&oe=5C714CF1
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Jim
11/9/2018 11:15:42 am
The absolutely most notable quote from these is:
Doc Rock
11/9/2018 11:31:58 am
Jim,
Jim
11/9/2018 11:48:35 am
",,,,,,,,,,This year Father Dominic will teach me Latin, French, Gaelic and Norwegian,,,,,"
Monica Parkes
11/13/2018 07:26:47 pm
You guys do realize it's copyrighted??? Better hope she doesn't sue you! or did you just steal them off someone's FB page?
American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/13/2018 10:27:00 pm
Monica,
Monica Parkes
11/9/2018 12:31:30 pm
No stupid, Henry's journals were in Latin and I'm sure if he knew rudimentary Latin Father whomever would teach him more. It's the later ones that were written in Middle English. How do I know? BECAUSE I READ THE BOOK! And you haven't.... Duh!
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Doc Rock
11/9/2018 01:40:35 pm
I'm getting confused here. First the claim (as per her statement on Wolter's blog) was that the journals were written in Latin (with some Gaelic mixed in) then later in Old English then later in Modern English. Now we are talking about Latin and then Middle English.
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Joe Scales
11/9/2018 03:37:57 pm
Wait a sec Monica... you're here calling folks stupid and you bought the book?
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Dunior
11/16/2018 04:41:52 pm
You must be HP. You just threatened to sue someone. So funny. You are not even a good troll. All your facts and background info are wrong or skewed to your point of view. But you are entertaining.
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American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/16/2018 05:32:29 pm
@Monica:
Jim
11/10/2018 09:43:30 pm
https://scontent.fyxe1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/45636460_10156273638612800_4378589179676721152_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_ht=scontent.fyxe1-1.fna&oh=f9958ea025f402bd6cb384dc35bd8bc7&oe=5C8860EA
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11/11/2018 03:58:22 pm
It is a key characteristic of a far right-winger or ultra-conservative they they are keen to believe the most outrageous lies. The more outrageous the more likely they are to believe them, indeed. I think it was the shock, even 100 years after the French Revolution, that helped cultivate this conspiracy mongering among reactionary aristocratic and bourgeois classes.
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American cool "Disco" Dan
11/11/2018 04:28:08 pm
I'm going to steal from Jimmy Carter's book and say
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Joe Scales
11/11/2018 05:02:32 pm
"It is a key characteristic of a far right-winger or ultra-conservative they they are keen to believe the most outrageous lies."
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11/11/2018 11:43:39 pm
Son, you are confused, if by "far left-wingers" you are referring to American liberal Democrats. There is only one American ruling political party and it has two closely aligned factions: right-wing Democrats and far right-wing Republicans; fascists and fascist sympathizers and collaborators.
Joe Scales
11/12/2018 11:06:27 am
Humorless as well as clueless. Begone with your bullshit, reactionary politics. 11/13/2018 12:27:37 am
Reactionary?! As a genuine leftist, I'm anything but reactionary.
Joe Scales
11/15/2018 09:51:56 am
The folly of your position. Though "reactionary politics" was a moniker used against conservatives in the recent past, it now applies to you. Look it up and see who you really are.
Jim
11/17/2018 12:38:52 am
Muir:
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American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/17/2018 01:06:11 am
Clearly she meant the Altair 8800 which would still be wrong.
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Jim
11/18/2018 10:14:27 am
Looks like our Diana Muir can trace her roots back to Methusaleh and Adam !!
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American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/18/2018 03:24:41 pm
I have it on good authority that I'm descended from the Easter Bunny. This fruitcake is tailor made for our Scott.
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Bezalel
11/20/2018 08:32:42 am
We are all descendants of bunnies.
Jim
11/21/2018 07:48:50 pm
New comment by Muir on Wolters blog,,,,,,It's a doozie !
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Paul
12/15/2018 10:36:52 pm
I have perused the many websites that Ms.Diana J Muir has posted and listed her credentials. Not to drag her through the mud but only to show even though she may write well and no doubt is educated, she is one of these people who if their lips are moving, every word needs to be vetted. As for her books and research, genealogy is probably mostly cut and paste and the rest mostly fantasy. Just sayin', please see following.
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Gary Gianotti
1/19/2019 01:32:04 pm
Personally I have not been on Jason’s site here for a couple of years! Couple months ago I have been seeing Dian’s posts and read about her series of books coming out!
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