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More Sinclair Diaries Claims; Plus: Freemasons and Templar Worship of Baphomet

11/6/2018

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​I don’t want to beat a dead horse by continuing to examine the case of the so-called Sinclair journals, but I am rather perplexed by some of the claims that Scott Wolter is making for them, and I shudder with dread at the upcoming discussion of more Templar “secrets” Wolter promises for “the coming days.” On his blog, Wolter replied to questions from the regular reader of this blog who posts under the name “An Anonymous Nerd” with some baffling claims revolving around the question of the Templar interest in Jerusalem vs. their supposed centuries of secret missions to the middle of America:
Of course they went there for a reason, it is clearly stated in the journals which you obviously have not read yet. It is also obvious Earl Henry wrote his entries as it was his obligation that becomes apparent upon reading them. Fugitive Templars that survived after 1307 and fled to Scotland were protected by the dominant clans after serving in Bannockburn. However, since they had been outlawed the order began to evolve into something different. For example, celibacy demanded by the Church was no longer necessary and to continue they had to procreate.
 
I have personally examined some of the originals and am convinced they are copies of older documents. I have also seen the lambskin map which appears to be original. Regardless, we have already found errors in Diana’s translations, but they are minor. The vast majority of her translations appear to be good. The overall story is cohesive and consistent.
 
To even make a claim the Templars didn’t know about North America, or that they couldn’t get there, is pure nonsense. They traveled to the “Western Lands” frequently, they just didn’t tell anyone about it.
​I don’t really want to touch the weird question of membership in the Templar order changing from a voluntary community to a hereditary cult, though it raises awkward problems in terms of explaining just why induction was good enough before 1307 but bloodline membership became necessary thereafter. Given the number of cults in the world, presumably even heretics could recruit.
 
I am more interested in the second paragraph quoted above. Wolter claims to have examined some of the pages of the “original” diaries and to believe them to be copies of medieval documents. This isn’t like when Classical scholars study medieval copies of Greco-Roman originals. As we know from his own introduction to the “translations” of the journals, the documents are allegedly from the nineteenth century, which even taken at face value would provide no evidence for a genuine medieval origin. Nineteenth century paper is easy enough to come by—frequently cut from the blank pages of old books—and it is much easier to forge Victorian documents than fourteenth century ones.
 
How might Wolter have found errors in Diana Muir’s “translations” if the original Latin texts were allegedly disposed of by burial and unavailable for comparison? I am doubly curious since Wolter also does not read Latin even if such pages were to exist. I wonder if these “errors” instead represent a difference between the “translation” and either geographic or historical data.
 
You have to love the last line where he said that the Templars traveled to America frequently but didn’t tell anyone about it. Then, pray tell, how does Wolter know this? He doesn’t seem to recognize how speculation builds upon speculation, nor that inferences based on inferences do not congeal into facts. There is no evidence of any Templar voyage westward from Europe. The only genuine medieval text to refer, even tangentially, to it is a coerced confession that makes no mention of western lands. The speculation about Templar voyages to America began as the fever-dream of the racist Frenchman Eugène Beauvois, who based the claim on fanciful linguistic sleight of hand, bad translations, and an instinctive belief that Mexicans were racially inferior. This claim dates back only to the twentieth century. Such is the stuff dreams are made of.
 
Diana Muir, posting on Wolter’s blog, claims that some of the “later” Sinclair family journals were written in Old English. These were dated to the fifteenth or sixteenth century or later, and I am torn between wondering if Muir and Wolter are unaware that Old English refers to the form of English used before 1150 CE, or if they don’t know how to refer to Middle English and Early Modern English by their proper names.
 
But before I go today, I want to offer this astonishing illustration that appeared on the Ancient Origins website recently as part of an article on the question of whether the Knights Templar worshiped Baphomet, the goat-headed occult deity. The image depicts Freemasons dressed as Knights Templar carrying the Baphomet the Sabbatic Goat in solemn procession:
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You will recognize the goat as the image of Baphomet drawn by occultist Éliphas Lévi and which has no real connection whatsoever to the Baphomet the Catholic Church accused the Templars of worshiping. What Ancient Origins left out is that the image appeared in a book by yet another Frenchman, Léo Taxil, which was a spurious exposure of Freemasonry that connected the Masons to devil-worship. The four-volume work was a sensation in fin de siècle Paris, until Taxil confessed the hoax in 1897.
 
Taxil professed to be astonished that anyone took him seriously. In a 1907 interview he said:
“The public made me what I am; the arch-liar of the period,” confessed Taxil, “for when I first commenced to write against the Masons my object was amusement pure and simple. The crimes I laid at their door were so grotesque, so impossible, so widely exaggerated, I thought everybody would see the joke and give me credit for originating a new line of humor. But my readers wouldn't have it so; they accepted my fables as gospel truth, and the more I lied for the purpose of showing that I lied, the more convinced became they that I was a paragon of veracity.
 
“Then it dawned upon me that there was lots of money in being a Munchausen of the right kind…”
The trouble is that the Templar / Mason / goddess claims have nothing more to them than Taxil’s hoax.

But the real question might arise when remember that the Holy Bloodline hoax that underlies so much of this nonsense in its modern form was the work of still another Frenchman. What is it with France and these bizarre conspiracies? And, more importantly, why do they not stay in France?
160 Comments
Jim
11/6/2018 09:38:06 am

Without blood lineage Wolter cannot be the Templar he thinks he is when he refers to the Templars as we.

Wolter lifts much of his crap from William Mann who claims Templar descendancy as a holy Grail Guardian.

Wolter so wants Tempars to be bloodline based he decided to make it so.

"Scott WolterMarch 28, 2018 at 8:23 PM

Did you really think the Templars suddenly appeared out of nowhere in 1129? They are simply the continuation of the lineage of an ancient tradition you won’t find on Wiki, or anywhere else. And yes, the “Templar” tradition predates Jesus, who was just one individual, albeit on of the more well known in a long line of initiates."

We have to remember that Wolter claims that the Templars were around long before 1129 and faked their Christianity to put one over on the Pope in a plot to nefariously infiltrate and attack the Catholic church. And that Jesus was a Goddess worshipping Templar.
It just gets so bizarre !

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Joe Scales
11/6/2018 09:45:02 am

And strangely enough, Wolter now appears more sympathetic. I mean... him getting a new cyber-stalker and all.

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Jim
11/6/2018 10:03:04 am

Do you think Muir was scammed or is in on the hoax ?

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Joe Scales
11/6/2018 10:16:54 am

Not something I've even thought about considering Jim. Wolter is so damned stupid and has gone out of his way with his blog to confirm such an obvious dearth of intellect that engaging him there puts shooting fish in a barrel in a more competitive bracket. Sure, it was good sport for some to be more clever and lead him to even more lunacy, but even that became too easy; and in the end, rather boring.

But if folks want to make their mark over there, have at it. Just don't expect fairness. Don't expect logic. Don't expect truth. Given such constraints, you cannot win, no matter how you wish to pat yourself on the back. You're arguing with an idiot, and he's probably better looking.

FAKE INJUN
11/6/2018 10:44:08 am

My wife sometimes states I'm a genius. So, insightfully I kind of believe that she doesn't have a very high opinion of me.

The yin and yang of it all.

Adrienne: You can't win!
Rocky: But I've got to try.

FAKE INJUN
11/6/2018 10:52:05 am

But then again, she has a high school education... as do I.

Oh, it gets so confusing at times!

COSMIC CONSCIENCE
11/6/2018 10:11:12 am

I think it is very important to investigate the pictures presented by the fringe groups. My analysis is simple... they worshiped the goat because it represents a man with hair and a beard. Most scholars lost their hair, they worship the part of themselves that they lost.

Templar are just one of the many cults who wish to be whole again. Right or wrong... it is their quest to be what they were, not as they are. One Templar cult will be because they achieved it, and wish to proliferate it. Another Templar cult will be because they wish to discover the Holy Grail which was lost to them.

People know what is good when they have tasted it. They want more, while others want less due to the bitterness inherent.

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Joe Scales
11/6/2018 10:19:29 am

"Templar are just one of the many cults who wish to be whole again. Right or wrong... it is their quest to be what they were, not as they are."

You mean a return to banking?

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FAKE INJUN
11/6/2018 10:28:40 am

That's the thousand dollar question!

BigNick
11/6/2018 10:53:09 am

Also PMC contracts in the middle east. It's a huge market

COSMIC CONSCIOUS
11/6/2018 10:23:44 am

Which do you prefer... the mind or the body?

Every religion is a cult, a cult with greater numbers.

I bet people with a mind, want a body. I bet people with a body, want a mind. The mixture brings out a myriad of results. Thus, religion for the long haul.

To those who achieve both... schizophrenia. The loss of logic.

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Monica Parkes
11/9/2018 11:59:00 am

Actually I've read the book by Ms. Muir and there's no mention of Baphomet worship anywhere. I think you guys are barking up the wrong tree. Her research seems pretty solid! One thing I was amazed by was the Sinclair family caring for the disavowed Templars who were hiding in Wemyss Caves along the Firth of Forth. If you look the caves up on the internet there are lots of Templar markings in the caves. She gives a pretty convincing argument. Wolter didn't write the commentary, she did.

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Jim
11/9/2018 12:23:25 pm

No, there is no evidence carvings in the caves are Templar. Just the usual popular Templar wild speculation.

" The walls of Well Cave have been blackened by soot from historic fires. However, the incision of this carving has cut through the soot-blackened surface layer to reveal the clean red sandstone beneath. This indicates that it was carved after the burning event. All of the 18th/19th century carvings cut through the historic cave wall soot layer to reveal clean sandstone cuts, hence this carving is unlikely to be of any great antiquity."

https://nlarchaeology.wordpress.com/2014/02/14/graffiti-part-two/

Frank
11/6/2018 11:23:42 am

"What is it with France and these bizarre conspiracies? And, more importantly, why do they not stay in France?"

Why? Why! because they are like french fries, and Americans love those "greasy" things. It's because of the same reason that current politics of our dear conspiracy lover, Trump, worries you, dear Jason. There are too many people here that love that stuff, and they say, hell to the truth, we want to be entertained by lies and deceit.....sinning is more fun than piety. America first; It's better to receive than to give? Trump would drain the swamp is a lie, as the waters are getting ever higher with him at the helm, and Atlantis will sink. Everything is being turned upside down. It's the sign of the times. It's like the lyrics to one of Bob Dylan's songs, this one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7qQ6_RV4VQ

Then this must be our notion of the just man, that even when he is in poverty or sickness, or any other seeming misfortune, all things will in the end work together for good to him in life and death: for the gods have a care of any one whose desire is to become just and to be like God, as far as man can attain the divine likeness, by the pursuit of virtue?
Yes, he said; if he is like God he will surely not be neglected by him.
And of the unjust may not the opposite be supposed?
Certainly.
Such, then, are the palms of victory which the gods give the just?
That is my conviction.
And what do they receive of men? Look at things as they really are, and you will see that the clever unjust are in the case of runners, who run well from the starting-place to the goal but not back again from the goal: they go off at a great pace, but in the end only look foolish, slinking away with their ears draggling on their shoulders, and without a crown; but the true runner comes
to the finish and receives the prize and is crowned. And this is the way with the just; he who endures to the end of every action and occasion of his entire life has a good report and carries off the prize which men have to bestow.
True.

Come gather 'round people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You'll be drenched to the bone.
If your time to you
Is worth savin'
Then you better start swimmin'
Or you'll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'.
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don't stand in the doorway
Don't block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There's a battle outside
And it is ragin'.
It'll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'.

Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
And don't criticize
What you can't understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are beyond your command
Your old road is
Rapidly agin'.
Please get out of the new one
If you can't lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin'.

The line it is drawn
The curse it is cast
The slow one now
Will later be fast
As the present now
Will later be past
The order is
Rapidly fadin'.
And the first one now
Will later be last
For the times they are a-changin'.

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American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/6/2018 11:34:20 am

I'm not so concerned with the purported use of Old English in the purported diaries though I wonder where Ms. Muir got her expertise. Notice I don't ask about Wolter's expertise.

It's likely that Old English lingered on longer in Scotland and it might have been a Sinclair family tradition. Just because the Normans dictated that "our language is the standard from now on" doesn't mean the old language died immediately. French was for a time the language of the Russian Court and aristocracy but people still speak Russian.

Also concerning is the the purported use of Modern English. The Canterbury Tales were finished in 1400.

I'm mostly surprised that none of the purported journals included entries in some form of Old Norse.

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A Buddhist
11/6/2018 03:59:19 pm

Scotland, however, had its own form of English distinct from Old English: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Scots. And the Canterbury Tales are Middle English.

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American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/6/2018 05:25:50 pm

"Scotland, however, had its own form of English distinct from Old English:"

Your corrections are always and without fail helpful.

Because that's the polite thing to say.

The first sentence of the article you cited: "Early Scots was the emerging literary language of the Northern Middle English speaking parts of Scotland in the period before 1450."

Wow, who knew that Middle English would be distinct from Old English?

Don't teach your grandmother to suck eggs.

A Buddhist
11/6/2018 06:21:23 pm

American Cool "Disco" Dan: I am glad that you are least somewhat polite.

I acknowledge that Scots and Middle English were related. However, the Wikipedia article that I cited also says "The northern forms of Middle English descended from Northumbrian Old English." Old English had many dialects, but when people talk about Old English, the general default is West-Saxon Old English [Baugh, Albert (1951). A History of the English Language]. Therefore, my first correction of you should be understood as meaning "Scotland, however, had its own form of [Old] English distinct from [West Saxon, Standard] Old English [viz., Northumbrian Old English/Scots]." I did not want people to think that Scotland used Old English of the sort used in the South and Centre of England.

American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/6/2018 06:56:36 pm

You seem to enjoy arguing and are devoted to not being wrong, going so far as to rewrite an article YOU cited. Pity. Are you going to go door to door making sure people don't think what "I did not want people to think..."? But, if that's what you have to do...

Have it your way, Buckaroo.

A Buddhist
11/6/2018 07:52:41 pm

American Cool "Disco" Dan: I did not rewrite the article that I cited. Rather, I cited a different portion of it as well as another resource about varieties of Old English.

I like communicating clearly, and love when other people communicate clearly. So much sorrow can be caused by unclear communication. Better to have unclear communication as a focus than insulting people.

I do not mind being proven wrong and will gladly accept correction. I mind being insulted and told inaccurate things.

American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/6/2018 07:59:29 pm

Okay, I stand corrected. You rewrote your own post to make it less wrong. Step one is removing the stick from where it seems to be lodged. Step two is stop trying to coach people. Failing to do these things you bring impoliteness on yourself.

A Buddhist
11/6/2018 08:31:15 pm

American Cool "Disco" Dan: I, who so often urge others to correct what they have written in order to make their writings less wrong, would be worthy of vituperation as a hypocrite if I were unwilling to correct what I have written in order to make it less wrong.

I try to correct other people, but it is other people, such as yourself, who choose to respond to my correcting efforts with insults. You seem to have a stuck stick that drives you to insult people, which is inferior to my stuck stick that tries to correct people. If I were to not try to correct people errors might spread, either in my mind or in others' writings. In contrast, if you were to stop insulting people, you would be more effective as a corrector of other people, since they would be able to focus on the argument rather than the insult. Other people would also be happier if you were to stop insulting people.

American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/6/2018 08:37:58 pm

ALL you do Skeezix, is correct others and insult their various religions, calling their God an insane criminal.

Sitting must be uncomfortable; once again I suggest you uninsert that stick.

A Buddhist
11/6/2018 08:45:50 pm

American Cool "Disco" Dan: It is better to insult an idea than to insult a person. And I do not say that YHVH is a criminal. Insane, yes, and evil, but no criminal.

American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/6/2018 09:22:21 pm

A criminal by any normal standard, killing already born babies, according to your version of the Old Testament.

But okay, you're only calling the God of Xtians, Jews, and the Religion of Peace "insane and evil". Well, THAT's certainly not insulting. Why the harmful speech? Any luck removing that stick? I think the two are connected.

"A BUDDHIST
9/24/2016 11:58:32 am
It is better to have contact with a Bodhisattva than with any god or demon. For those gods and demons who have not converted to Buddhism are foolish at best and evil at worst - fools such as the so-called Mahabrahma, or evil such as YHVH.

It is true that contacting beings may lead even Buddhists to mistakes, such as Je Tsongkapa. But no true Bodhisattva has said to anyone: "Kill even the babies!" Alas, YHVH fails even that test."

Remember the Jataka tale of Shakyamuni in a previous incarnation as a ship's captain killed 500 people. Do you think he checked IDs before he killed them Mr. Stick?

As you can see, the more harmful speech from you, the less politeness from me. Apparently you value harmful speech.

A Buddhist
11/7/2018 08:52:13 am

American Cool "Disco" Dan: Why do you say that only in my version of the Bible YHVH kills babies? Do you interpret the flood narrative as having had no babies killed by YHVH?

I define a criminal as person who has been convicted in a court of law. People may commit crimes but be found not criminally responsible due to, for example, insanity. Believing that one is a Supreme Creator God when one is not is a form of insanity that has been recognized as a basis for being found not criminally responsible (R v Chaulk, [1990] 3 SCR 1303).

Can you provide a citation for the story in which Shakyamuni in a previous life killed 500 people while serving as a ship's captain? I am aware of a similar story in which Shakyamuni in a previous life killed 1 person who was planning to kill 500 other people - passengers upon the ship that the Shakyamuni in a previous life was captain over [see, e.g., http://venyifa.blogspot.com/2008/09/story-of-compassionate-ships-captain.html]. Yet the Captain knew that he was engaging in a serious deed with grave consequences in order to save lives:
“He thought, “There is no means to prevent this from slaying the merchants and going to the great hells but to kill him.’
“And he thought, ‘if I were to report this to the merchants, they would kill and slay him with angry thoughts and all go to the great hells themselves.’
“And he thought, ‘if I were to kill this person, I would likewise burn in the great hells for one hundred-thousand eons because of it. Yet I can bear to experience the pain of the great hells, that this person not slay these five hundred merchants and develop so much evil karma. I will kill this person myself.
Even if you be citing a genuine Jataka tale, the Jataka Tales record the deeds of the Bodhisattva, not Shakyamuni Buddha. Buddhas have stricter standards of conduct and teaching than bodhisattvas.

American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/7/2018 10:05:32 am

You're right, I misremembered the Jataka Tale. I plead mad cow disease.

The truth is I am irked by your constant and nit-picking corrections, your editing your own remarks to be right, and your continued harmful (in these days some would say hate) speech.

A Buddhist
11/7/2018 10:46:39 am

American Cool "Disco" Dan: We have different definitions of harmful speech. I call insulting a person and asking as part of a series of insults towards a person whether the person has considered committing suicide to be harmful speech, and define criticizing ideas and the conduct of entities that allegedly founded the ideas to be fine. You seem to hold the opposite view.

Monica Parkes
11/9/2018 12:02:49 pm

Just watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMS2VnDveP8 Scottish guys in an Elevator to prove that point! Also to be considered is they may have written in Old English so that others couldn't read them.

A C
11/6/2018 01:13:03 pm

lol at the one mason in 19th century dress in that 'Templar' picture.

The excuses of the internet branch of the modern far right make me suspicious of Léo Taxil's "I was joking" defense. Being unaware of the harm your self amusement might cause is the same thing as not caring. Conspiracy theories and hoaxes have have always been politically motivated.

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American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/6/2018 01:38:28 pm

"lol at the one mason in 19th century dress in that 'Templar' picture."

It's from one of Taxil's books so it's not out of place.

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Joe Scales
11/6/2018 03:43:10 pm

"Conspiracy theories and hoaxes have always been politically motivated."

And so too now, quite unfortunately, is our more longwinded resident driveller.

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Frank
11/6/2018 04:55:07 pm

Directing your attention to idiots, are you now? So brash so bold, a short-winded court jester. Wamba the squire, no doubt?

How about this "politically" motivated conspiracy drivel?

And, on the other hand, as the long-winded say, of the unjust I say that the greater number, even though they escape in their youth, are found out at last and look foolish at the end of their course, and when they come to be old and miserable are flouted alike by stranger and citizen; they are beaten and then come those things unfit for ears polite, as you truly term them; they will be racked and have their eyes burned out, as you were saying. And you may suppose that I have repeated the remainder of your tale of horrors. But will you let me assume, without reciting them, that these things are true?
Certainly, he said, what you say is true.
These, then, are the prizes and rewards and gifts which are bestowed upon the just by gods and men in this present life, in addition to the other good things which justice of herself provides.
Yes, he said; and they are fair and lasting.
And yet, I said, all these are as nothing, either in number or greatness in comparison with those other recompenses which await both just and unjust after death. And you ought to hear them, and then both just and unjust will have received from us a full payment of the debt which the argument owes to them.
Speak, he said; there are few things which I would more gladly hear.
Well, I said, I will tell you a tale; not one of the tales which Odysseus tells to the hero Alcinous, yet this too is a tale of a hero, Er the son of Armenius, a Pamphylian by birth. He was slain in battle, and ten days afterwards, when the bodies of the dead were taken up already in a state of corruption, his body was found unaffected by decay, and carried away home to be buried. And on the twelfth day, as he was lying on the funeral pile, he returned to life and told them what he had seen in the other world.......

Doc Rock
11/6/2018 01:26:26 pm

I believe that the Sinclair family came to the British Isles by way of the Norman conquest. Also pretty sure that for about 300 to 400ish years French was the dominant language among the nobility and royalty throughout much of the Isles. I think in many instances in Scotland there was a shift from French to Gaelic to Scots or more commonly from French to Scots rather than to Old English.


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Kal
11/6/2018 01:30:24 pm

And I reiterate again, "What does it matter if Wolter can convince people he is descended from some royal or important line?" He can't go to the bank with it. He knows it's made up, or some for of pathology, and made up. He and Muir are in on it, but not for the same end goals, surely. Muir is probably thinking it will sell more speculative fiction, and Wolter thinks if he can just 'hornswaggle' and other term for a gilded over piece of tin he bought in a thrift shop and sold for 80, or something. another into buying his bizarre comparison research about the Sincairs. In 2018, whi but the fringe really cares about what happened with a medieval Templar group that allegedly fled from France? What does it prove? Nothing.

Non recipit stultus verba volantia et fame, nisi stultus, qui credit quod sit verus est fake niave.

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Jim
11/6/2018 03:13:03 pm

Cool, I translated that last part and it says:
The holy grail is hidden in a cave in Montana.

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American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/6/2018 05:32:11 pm

I'm going to have to dive with a vengeance into verifying your translation.
.....

Yep, looks good! Imprimatur!

Riley V
11/6/2018 06:23:16 pm

Mining to Montana soon.
Gonna be a mental toss flycoon

Shane Sullivan
11/6/2018 06:45:11 pm

Riley, I cannot impress upon you how many times a day I say, "I'm riding a small tiny horse / His name is Mighty Little, he's a good horse".

American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/6/2018 07:35:49 pm

When Mighty Horse rocks he rocks a phat ass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctw--YDZXI4

Zeno
11/17/2018 12:57:20 pm

Jim, the "us" is all the pseudonyms Diane is using since the real Diane would not be caught dead posting on this blog.

LOL

Teresa Parkes
11/16/2018 11:47:12 am

I noticed she just put up 3 new books on her blog, none related to royalty. If you have doubts about her academic credentials go to http://www.academia.edu/ She's widely published in addition to the genealogy work she does.

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American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/16/2018 12:42:40 pm

Academia.edu has 7 Powerpoint presentations. You're not making your case.

Zeno
11/16/2018 03:22:28 pm

Diana, oops, I mean Teresa, maybe you are adept at getting articles about education published but that does not mean anyone will buy this nonsense about Sinclair journals.

When Yale’s Institute for the Preservation of Cultural Heritage has examined the originals and pronounced them genuine, then, and only then, will people even begin to consider studying these journals.

When will Yale's IPCH begin the testing?

American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/16/2018 05:22:01 pm

It appears that in the case of academia.edu you just upload the Powerpoint slides yourself. It's not what academics mean by "publication".

Teresa Parkes
11/16/2018 10:31:12 pm

Sorry, not Diana. She wouldn't be caught dead posting on this blog. And like Monica, she has asked us not to defend her against a bunch of basement dwellers. So this is my last post. Try this one: "Handbook of Mobile Learning" edited by Zane Berge ISBN 978-0-415-50369-3, Chapter 48. Published by Routledge, published in 2013. I think that's pretty credible. Have any of you been published in peer reviewed academic journals? NOT!!!!!! I noticed she just put up pics of her CCLP award and 2007 Award for Distance Education. Who am I? Teresa Kanai, live in Hawaii on the big island. I teach Math for Univ of Phoenix. I know her because I used to teach for 1 World School. Get a life!

Monica Parkes
11/16/2018 10:41:11 pm

And my name is Naruesaporn Awrithruhannon. I'm from Bangkok in Thailand. I was a foreign exchange student in Atlanta in 2005 and Diana was my American Mom. I use the name Monica because it's shorter and I'm now married to Roland Parkes and live in the Midwest. I'm not Philyaw and I'm not Diana. GOOOODDDDDBBBBBYYYYYEEEEEE!!!

American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/16/2018 11:27:21 pm

"MONICA PARKES
11/15/2018 11:21:07 am

Not commenting anymore."

"MONICA PARKES
11/16/2018 10:41:11 pm
GOOOODDDDDBBBBBYYYYYEEEEEE!!!"

Who knows what the morrow will bring? There's a lot of mentions of "mother's basement" flying around and that to me is an immediate disqualifier.

American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/16/2018 11:32:04 pm

"TERESA PARKES
11/16/2018 10:31:12 pm

Have any of you been published in peer reviewed academic journals?"

Some of us have, but "we" if there is such a thing are not the issue at hand. Please cite some of Ms. Muir's peer-reviewed articles.

Then would you care to comment on your shared last name? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

Jim
11/16/2018 11:46:56 pm

Teresa:

" Who am I? Teresa Kanai, live in Hawaii on the big island. I teach Math for Univ of Phoenix."

Long commute to work is it ?
150 miles from Honolulu Oahu where the campus of the Univ of Phoenix is located to The Big Island (Hawaii). Do you swim, or do you fly ?
P.S. they don't teach courses there, Only online programs. Of course now you will say you only tutor students.

https://www.phoenix.edu/campus-locations/hi/honolulu-hawaii-campus.html

Jim
11/16/2018 11:51:59 pm

Teresa:

PSS

"Sorry, not Diana. She wouldn't be caught dead posting on this blog. And like Monica, she has asked us not to defend her against a bunch of basement dwellers."

Who is "us" ?

Joe Scales
11/17/2018 01:42:09 pm

Philjaw, you imbecile, you can't even keep your sock puppets straight. Teresa Parker has now become Teresa Parkes, which is your Monica sock puppet's last name.

TIBER TUNNEL
11/6/2018 02:29:19 pm

Thorval enters the arena-
Seven girls toss flowers at his feet, the daisies are crushed by his footfalls. Skipping as they go, his female entourage giggles in an inordinate way. Being less than four feet tall, they possess qualities more in line of faeries. As they draw nearer, it is evident that they are full grown women and not of a youthful age. Ushering in a second cannonade, another volley of women approach. As each lady reaches him, she dresses him with a beaded accoutrament. The first laces a leather armband just above his bulging bicep. The second ties one to his powerfully built thigh. All in all, seven sirens make their way to him. Each woman carries but a single flower within their braided tresses.

The last places a well-crafted headband around his forehead. Lowering his head, Thorval dismisses their existence. “Ente lo-gano indu este mundo.” In a hallowed & heavy drawl, he acquires a god like mastery over his dominating influence. Trudging forward, he bypasses his many daughters to be seized by spiritual forces unseen. Holding onto a self-imposed trance, another salvo of women rises to his side. “For Justice.” Responding to her, Thorval is almost inaudible. “Nam justitiae.” The girl streaks her fingernails down his upper arm. “With bravery.” A second woman sharpens her claws on his chest. “Cum forti-tudo.” Blood fills within the scratches left by their greetings.

“Mercy for the weak.” Another slashes at his face. “Misericordia nam in infirmor.” Dusting off the blow, Thorval marches on. “Respect thy people.” The fourth woman scores his remaining cheekbone. “Secundum tuus populo.” The journey continues. “Truth through honesty.” Three fingers drag a tilde over his pectoral muscle. “Verum per probitas.” Detached from their assaults, he keeps his pace brisk. “To be judged worthy.” A pigment of blood lifting from his other arm balances his body in war paint. “Ut erit ludi-cavit... honora.” Nearing the encampment, Thorval is halted by the old witch with the runes. “To seek wisdom, is to hold loyalty over everything.”

Darkened by age, her fingernails appear dirty and bruised. Dragging a single finger down each side of his neck, she unleashes her torment. “Ut quaerere sapientian.” Staring into her eyes, Thorval almost wishes to strike her down. The old hag who has beseached the Keeper of the island for so many years casts her final spell. “Your daughters have given you strength. Your sisters evoke a power given to your mind. Now, your mother calls upon you... to lift up your House to the rising sun. So as to cast out the demons of your beginnings.” Turning to the twelve soldiers within the arena of combat, she baits him further.“Destroy them, and bring them great suffering and pain!”

Launching into a heavy jaunt, Thorval makes for his battleground.

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Jim
11/6/2018 03:34:37 pm

Jeff AdamsonNovember 5, 2018 at 7:12 AM

"I know that when the "Jack the Ripper" Diaries came out, one of the big tests done on them to prove they were hoaxes were ink tests. Has there been any Thin Layer Chromatography or Gas Chromatography done on the lambskin map? Carbon dating would be a big help as well."

Scott WolterNovember 5, 2018 at 4:46 PM

"Jeff,

This is a good suggestion and we are planning to perform these and other tests. We just have not done them yet."

Wolter:

"Over the course of the next two-plus years, Masonic scholar and past Grand Master of Masons of Minnesota, Terry Tilton, and I dove into vetting the journals with a vengeance."

Good lord the book is already published, when are they going to get around to this? ,,,,, Oh ya she tossed the evidence, they gotta go dumpster diving first.
2 years of vengeful "vetting" by our fearless historians Wolter, Muir, Pulitzer and Tilden and they didn't vet anything ?
I can just hear them vetting now
"does this sound about right ?"
"Yup, we will go with that"
I would like to know if Diana Muir is even fluent in Latin or did she use google translate?

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Bob Weaver
11/6/2018 03:46:35 pm

Much more likely, bullshitted in English first and used a translator to make the fake Latin....which nobody will ever likely see because the dumpster digging diving retrieval tease will of course result in a lost cause that they are working on the spin description of already..

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Julie
11/11/2018 12:49:40 pm

Exactly what happened.

American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/6/2018 04:11:06 pm

A man who says "I know enough to be dangerous" "dove with a vengeance", vengefully translating (? or not) the 3 pages of photocopies he claimed to have.

It's all just a big gay fantasy for our Scott, the idiot scion of Clan Wolter.

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Teresa Parker
11/6/2018 07:27:02 pm

If you track down Diana Muir's website you'll see she is the CEO of Global Education Services. She has multiple degrees. She's no dummy. She's also a professional genealogist accredited by the Mormon Church back in the 1970s. She's probably trained in paleography and ancient languages if she's a genealogist of any sort. And YES, she's Mormon? Got something against Mormons? Why do you guys use her to poke fun at Wolter? Seems like you should read the journals and judge them on their own merit and whether or not they can find something to verify the contents such as artifacts? I doubt she meant "Old" English as in before 1152, just English older than what we use. I've read Wolter's blog and the last journals were written in understandable modern English during the 1770s or about. She also said there was some Scottish-Gaelic. Not old enough to include old Norse. Doubt she had trouble translating the English. Not certain I believe Templars were around before Christ but then, who cares? The journals represent history as we've never heard it. Don't be so close minded. And Colavito? If you'd really reached out to her, she would have answered. She answered me.

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American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/6/2018 08:16:08 pm

Yes, I have something against Mormons:

- Mormonism is a particularly stupid religion which like many started out as a child-sex cult and teaches that Jesus visited North America; and further that

- It is a religion based on scriptures that never existed (like Ms. Muir's book); and further that

- Good Mormons after death eventually each become the god of their own planet; and further

- the Church was verrrrrrrry slow to give coloreds anything like equal treatment.

"Not old enough to include old Norse." Yet written by Henry Sinclair. Might want to review the timeline.

"Not certain I believe Templars were around before Christ but then, who cares?"
Uh, people interested in history?

"The journals represent history as we've never heard it."
Because they're a hoax.

"the last journals were written in understandable modern English during the 1770s or about."
But the first journals, the ones in the volume under discussion, the only one that has been published, were most emphatically not, according to her story.

"She also said there was some Scottish-Gaelic."
Interspersed with the LATIN text, yes. Supposedly.

"She's probably trained in paleography and ancient languages if she's a genealogist of any sort."
Oh! Well! "Probably" is enough to convince me. That you're probably an idiot.

Jim
11/6/2018 09:27:03 pm

If she is so smart, why is she working with Wolter and Pulitzer ?
And I mean that seriously, it does not take much critical thinking to realize that their work in this area is nonsense and aligning oneself to those two will give you very zero credibility with the scientific and academic communities. She opened herself up to an extra large dose of criticism just by associating with those bozos.
She was convinced they were hoaxes and threw them away. Who convinced her otherwise ? I think we know the answer to that.

Bob Weaver
11/6/2018 11:31:10 pm

The burden of proof is on Muir. She claims she destroyed her proof. What more does a sane person need to know?

Doc Rock
11/7/2018 08:53:56 am

Teresa,

What is hopefully a bit more of a coherent response to your post.

Global Education Services looks to be some sort of virtual learning program where students take online vocational courses. So, while being some sort of administrator with that program sounds impressive I don't know that it translates into any sort of expertise in the matter at hand.


As far as I can tell Muir claims a B.A. in sociology/history. She lists what appears to be graduate work in sociology at both Eastern Montana College and University of Houston-Clear Lake, but does not claim degrees (as far as I can tell) from those schools.


She claims accreditation as a genealogist thru the LDS but her professional life seems to have been spent in administration, curriculum development, and distance learning.


Not much indication that she is to be viewed as anything close to an expert in translating Latin, Gaelic, Old English. If she did have expertise in languages then she likely would not mis-identify a later form of English as Old English. Neither does she appear to have any training or expertise in evaluating the authenticity of manuscripts. Neither does she appear to have much expertise in working with medieval and early modern historical documents in general.


If the documents were authentic then she could have published her book thru a major press instead of self-publishing and marketing it to a fringe niche market.


The story about throwing away the original copies (or did she just hide them) sounds pretty silly. Even if she suspected an elaborate hoax the materials would still be of some interest and not something that just gets tossed aside.


Sorry by my BS meter is pegged out on this one/

American Cool "disco" dan
11/7/2018 02:03:08 pm

"Accredited Genealogist and Professional Historian, Ph.D in Education, Masters in Future Studies and globally published writer on Online Learning."

https://twitter.com/dianamuir

Jim
11/7/2018 03:21:22 pm

"Professional Historian",,,,, yay,, someone bought one of her books.

"45 year professional Genealogist"

" has worked in marketing and branding for more than 15 years before joining the One Virtual School LLC team"

" Dr. Muir has been an educator for more than 45 years"

" Dr. Muir became a teacher after graduating from Brigham Young University in 1975."

"Over the years Dr. Muir has accumulated more than 13 college degrees including a Masters in Future Studies, 2 Ph.Ds (Educational Leadership and Technology & Social Change) from the University of Iowa, and post-doctorates from the University of Wisconsin- Madison (Distance Education) and MIT (Educational Leadership)."

" She is also a veteran of the US Army and has served both active duty and reserves since 1973."

http://www.futurelives.org/public/1about.html

https://lifeboat.com/ex/bios.diana.j.muir

http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/dmuir?searchTerms=&pageOffset=2

It seems she was in the armed forces, a teacher, a professional Genealogist and earning 13 degrees all at the same time. Impressive, especially being a professional historian as well. Also she started being an educator more than 2 years before graduating university.
My take is she is an amateur genealogist and historian who is completely out of her depth as a historian and probably as a genealogist as well.
You can't just write a pseudo-history book and call yourself a "Professional Historian".

Doc Rock
11/7/2018 04:29:23 pm

Jim,

There seem to be some discrepancies between the information that she posted about herself earlier on some social media sites and how she is billing herself now in terms of education and background. But nothing really earthshaking.

If the more current stuff is true (the degree from Iowa looks to be legit and they have a good Education program) then she is certainly well-educated in Distance/Virtual learning and stuff like that. But again, even with the additional information I'm just not seeing much of anything to give me confidence in her ability to recognize or read old English, know the difference between real or fake 16th century documents, etc.

If I wanted someone to set up and administer a virtual learning program she would look pretty good for it. If I wanted someone to research and write about alleged 14th century documents she wouldn't even be under consideration.

Joe Scales
11/7/2018 05:01:40 pm

Getting back to professional genealogy, has anyone inquired what she charges to find ancient royalty she can relate to you?

Jim
11/7/2018 05:57:49 pm

Doc Rock, I agree she seems to be a very educated woman. The extent of her exaggeration is is unknown. Like you I'm not buying into her being qualified for this.
It may be a small niggling thing, but her repeated use of the word providence rather than the correct "provenance" for a 45 year professional Genealogist continues to bug me and really makes me question her expertise.

Julie
11/11/2018 12:57:00 pm

Given Diana's penchant for fiction, have you personally verified each of the degrees she claims? Have you verified that the Mormon Church still considered her to be an accredited genealogist or even that she ever was accredited?

When her book was announced in a certain FB group late one day, the very next day a lady joined the group and said she was writing her master's thesis on early Sinclairs. When questioned this lady did not answer even one question. The very same hour the book announcement was deleted, this lady's 2 separate posts were also deleted. Reeks of fiction to me.

Why are you, Teresa, so quick to believe even one word Muir writes?

Monica Parkes
11/9/2018 12:08:09 pm

Actually if you check out Diana's website, you'll see she is much more educated than any of us, even Wolter. 2 Ph.d's etc. Problem is she comes from a traditional historians point of view. I'm sure all of this is new to her. I also heard that the journals will be included in Wolter's new show and all the testing will be done on camera, most likely. Not 'all' the evidence is gone, they have a few original pages left, scores of photocopies of the journals and high quality pics of the map. You states in the intro to her book that she threw them away because someone convinced her they were a hoax and she was being set up. Gee, wonder who that was?

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Doc Rock
11/9/2018 12:46:29 pm

Monica,

I have a very good friend who has a Ph.D. from the same program where Muir earned hers. He switched to Education because he couldn't make it thru the Anthropology Ph.D. program where I earned my Ph.D. So, I tend to start yawning when some argue for the brilliance of people with advanced degrees in Ed. In fact there are long running jokes about Ed degrees in higher ed. Not that you can't find bright people in Ed, but throwing out Ed grad degrees as proof that someone is inherently qualified for this type of work is just naïve.

Jim
11/9/2018 12:48:59 pm

"you'll see she is much more educated than any of us"

What you know the educational backgrounds of everyone here ? get real.

"Not 'all' the evidence is gone, they have a few original pages left,"

Let me ask you this, is it easier to hoax 3 pages or 20 journals and a lambskin map ?

Sounds like about 400 or 500 years with an unbroken chain of journals. I find this supremely unlikely.

Lets face it Wolter and his show are the kiss of death for any legitimacy.

American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/9/2018 01:21:10 pm

"Actually if you check out Diana's website, you'll see she is much more educated than any of us, even Wolter."

You get disqualified for even implying that Wolter is any sort of gold standard for education. He's got a Batchelor's degree and that's it, although he did at one time falsely claim to have a Master's degree. He "worked" on runes for 5 years but never learned Swedish. I wouldn't let him change a light bulb. He's not smart, much less educated.

Joe Scales
11/9/2018 03:45:19 pm

"... even Wolter."

I just had to put that out there again. Now to stop laughing...

Mike Morgan
11/9/2018 09:57:47 pm

Monica Parkes: "You states in the intro to her book that she threw them away because someone convinced her they were a hoax and she was being set up. Gee, wonder who that was?"

Not who you are sarcastically implying it might be. Diana Muir:
"Someone I trusted and respected on one of the Sinclair websites told me they had to be a hoax. Otherwise the Sinclairs would have known about them. I believed them."

Diana Muir November 9, 2018 at 11:36 AM
"I totally understand their skepticism. Actually I translated them before throwing them away. Someone I trusted and respected on one of the Sinclair websites told me they had to be a hoax. Otherwise the Sinclairs would have known about them. At the time I didn't know as much about Sinclair history, Orkney (had to look it up on the map!) or anything at all about Templar or Freemason History. There were entries that I couldn't understand so when someone told me they had to be an 18th century hoax, I believed them. I'd heard the stories of how the finder of the Kensington Rune Stone was maligned and how others who have found things have even committed suicide. I didn't want to be 'that' person who perpetrated the biggest hoax in history. So I threw them away... I didn't want to deal with the backlash. However, I still had the translations. I actually didn't tell Scott I'd thrown them away and kept hedging when he'd ask me for the originals. When I finally told him, he walked away for a while. It was the worst mistake of my life, but I think he understands now why I did it. Now that we've been vetting the people, events, places and references in the journals, I know they're real. Some of the the things written could only have been written if you'd been there at the time. We've yet to find any red flags although there are some things we can't prove because there are no records before 1600 in Orkney or Scotland and what few are left are very sketchy. I think as more of the journals are printed you'll see the extensive research we've done to try and identify some of the people and events."

Any buyers out there for this revised "I paniced" excuse? Jim? Anyone?

Is she biting the hand that feeds her? "I'd heard the stories of how the finder of the Kensington Rune Stone was maligned and how others who have found things have even committed suicide. I didn't want to be 'that' person who perpetrated the biggest hoax in history." Sure sounds like she is calling the KRS a hoax to me! :>)

Jim
11/9/2018 11:32:00 pm

Sorry Mike still not buying It. lol

First off "Monica"

" You states in the intro to her book that she threw them away because someone convinced her they were a hoax and she was being set up. Gee, wonder who that was? "

Not what I Said !!!! Screw off with trying to change the meaning of what I said !

"She was convinced they were hoaxes and threw them away. Who convinced her otherwise ? I think we know the answer to that."

She claims they can be recovered but puts no effort into if after 2 years ! Insane, the only evidence she has and it's apparently not worth the effort of recovering these supposedly priceless and obviously fragile and delicate documents. Documents that allegedly refute 500 years of documented history and prove her story. Meh, why bother ?
Utter claptrap.

By the by Mike did you see this ?

https://scottwolteranswers.blogspot.com/2018/11/cremona-document-provides-independent.html

Only $178.42 for the collectors paperback edition.

http://www.lulu.com/shop/donald-a-ruh/the-scrolls-of-onteora-the-cremona-document-collectors-edition/paperback/product-23858626.html

Ruh Thanks Diana Muir for her editing and subsequent worl on this book.

Jim
11/9/2018 11:33:14 pm

work

Mike Morgan
11/10/2018 02:07:22 am

Jim,

Yes, I read the "cremona" post earlier, but did not bother to follow the link to Lulu. Pretty pricey for a collectors edition by an unknown.

I had thought about posting about this latest manure car addition to Scott's Woo Woo train on Andy's Fraud group, but the founder of THOR is a member there and I didn't feel like taking the chance of subjecting the group to his endless and repetitive commentaries about all his "research" and "conclusions" about some of Ruh's artifacts. :>)

Jim
11/10/2018 02:41:18 am

Wise, very wise. I know of whom you speak.

Julie
11/11/2018 01:13:20 pm

I'm not finding any "Educational Leadership" degree available on the MIT.edu website. Maybe it is some other site using the initials "M", "I", and "T"?

Zeno
11/11/2018 03:26:34 pm

The Hawking Institute is a nonprofit registered in Moline, IL.
No reason to think Stephen Hawking even knew about it.

https://greatnonprofits.org/org/hawking-institute-inc

Monica Parkes
11/15/2018 11:21:07 am

In order to verify her degrees, accreditation by the Mormon Church and others you'd have to know her maiden name and her former married name. Good luck with that! As for expertise in reading Old English and such? You guys are clueless as to what a professional genealogist really does. Do you think research stops as you're going backwards and the records are no longer in English? Uh? No! I'm certain that over 45 years she's read thousands of of wills, probates, land records, manorial court rolls (Oh right! You don't know what those are!) vital records, census, armorial records and parish registers. I KNOW she's been trained in paleography. I took the same classes at BYU although I never took it as far as she has. She might not be able to translate more than the words that deal with personal names, born, married, died, dates, places and such but she can certainly read the letters and type them into a translator. She's translated several documents for me that were in German. And she doesn't charge anything for doing genealogy. She runs a genclass mailing list and answers questions freely, she even did Wolter and Huttons genealogy for free. Give her a challenge and have her do yours. Oh! Right! You'd have to actually tell us who you are! LOL And she didn't 'join' the One World School team, she's the creator. She's asked me not to response to your clueless rants. It only gives the moron who runs the blog more clicks on his site and more money in his pocket. Stop treating her like she's some 30 something. She's over 60 and old enough to be your mother's who are supporting your lazy asses. Show some respect. Not commenting anymore.

Jim
11/15/2018 03:20:45 pm

Monica,,,,, Why the big secret with regards to her qualifications ?
One can't claim to be fully qualified to do the work and then refuse to show the actual qualifications and expect to be taken seriously.

Bob: I need the transmission in my car fixed, are you qualified to do it ?

Ted: Certainly I am qualified, I am a certified finishing carpenter.

Jim
11/18/2018 10:08:49 am

PS, Monica:

"In order to verify her degrees, accreditation by the Mormon Church and others you'd have to know her maiden name and her former married name. Good luck with that!"

Would her maiden name be Hanson ? her former married name Hobert ? Not really hard to find.

https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/m/u/i/Diana-J-Muir/index.html

Jim
11/6/2018 05:22:22 pm

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10212867201494519&set=gm.461864497553662&type=3&eid=ARANxAwCTaIrMVzUB-CI-Q_ZTsG9PWS42j6FOsJvxFxpKKrK7HETC10cdHASJEQtzzmt89FYFQYKWaOt&ifg=1

Diana Muir: "Bill Kelly It's 1 of 10 because there are 20 journals and a lambskin map. It will take that much to put out all the information with the accompanying research."

OOPS,,,, it just went from 10 to 3

"Vol. 1 of a 3 part series detailing the journals of Prince Henry Sinclair and his descendants as they bring the lost Templar Treasure, along with more than 150 Knights Templars, to the Americas."

OOPS that one is now out of print we are back to 10

https://www.amazon.com/Lost-Templar-Chronicles-Vol-1353-1404/dp/1387760092

" Book 1 of 10, tells the story of Henry as a young boy from the age of 8 in 1353 until l395 when he plans a voyage with Captain Nicolo Zeno and his son Antonio Zeno to Greenland and beyond."

http://www.lulu.com/shop/http://www.lulu.com/shop/diana-j-muir/the-lost-templar-journals-of-prince-henry-sinclair-book-1-1353-1395/paperback/product-23844155.html

Wow,, and a yet another out of print single volume version:

" They vowed to secure and protect the Templar Treasure that had been secreted from New Rochelle, France after the Templars were outlawed. For over 800 years they passed the secret along to their descendants who then shared their Templar teachings with the following generation."

https://www.amazon.com/That-Which-Was-Lost-Journals/dp/1387714767/ref=sr_1_20?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1541541899&sr=1-20

Oh crap I give up, here is all of her books on Amazon, 12 books published this year.

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_pg_1?rh=n%3A283155%2Cp_27%3ADiana+Muir&sort=relevancerank&ie=UTF8&qid=1541541899

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Monica Parkes
11/9/2018 12:15:27 pm

She started her educator career 2 years earlier as a "Substitute teacher". Duh! And all those courses? K-14? She wrote them herself over 30 years. She was named Global Educator of the Year in 2008, Missed that one, did you guys? Her genealogy books (12 this year) and the result of 45 years of research. She's run an online genclass mailing list and class for over 20 years helping other people. I know, because I'm a member of the genclass group. You guys are way out of your depth! Yes, she's a professional historian, but in the traditional sense. I believe her expertise is in Colonial America. Why independent publisher? Because it takes 2 YEARS to go through a 'real' publisher. Besides, your hero Jason Colavito is self-published too. What about that? Don't comment on something you haven't read. Talk about basement bottom dwellers with no life!

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Doc Rock
11/9/2018 01:03:44 pm

And it probably takes 2+ years to produce a music album/CD through a legitimate professional production company. That's why an album released thru RCA is generally going to be of much higher quality and will be taken much, much more seriously than one self-recorded by Billy Bob in his garage.


The reason why people publish thru professional presses is that doing so requires a rigorous process that adds light years worth of legitimacy to research compared to self-published work where one can say whatever they want without peer oversight.


If one wants to go with convenience and self-publish to save time then so be it. A person might even be able to make more money off the book if they market it right. But the downside to that is that they have to deal with the consequences of not being taken seriously.


Let's wait and see if the book gets reviewed in professional journals and if so what the real history and language experts have to say about it.

American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/9/2018 01:30:52 pm

Apples and Oranges, Cap'n. In the music business it's all about distribution pipeline and giving record company weasels opportunity to steal. Case in point: Joe Pass's Virtuoso #2 was recorded in 3 days. The Grateful Dead's first album was recorded in 4 days. Both are generally considered to be pretty okay.

That said I agree with you about publishers adding value.

Doc Rock
11/9/2018 01:53:25 pm

But who released the Dead's first album?

Think that is safe to assume that a professional studio can sometimes produce a very quick turnaround and sometimes a professional press can crank out a book in much, much less than two years.


But regardless of the time-frame or any ulterior motives for production you still get a product that, at face value, is generally going to be of higher quality and is going to be taken much more seriously than a do it yourself operation.


My Laphroaig lunch beckons. So, I bid you mar sin leat (at least according to google translate which seems to be the go to resource for the fringe folks).

American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/9/2018 02:29:35 pm

"But who released the Dead's first album?"

Warner Brothers. Perhaps you've heard of them.

I'll never know what you said because I don't care.

Doc Rock
11/9/2018 02:44:06 pm

I knew it was Warner Brothers I just wanted to see you say it since it makes my point.

Now time for you to try to continue a pointless argument on your part by responding to comments that you claim to not care about.


Ahh, my first kiss of the day is now sitting on my table. Bye now, and better luck next time.

American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/9/2018 04:29:19 pm

Hello Cap'n. It was recorded in January 1967 and released in March 1967. I'd say that doesn't support your point.

Joe Scales
11/9/2018 07:46:12 pm

"Talk about basement bottom dwellers with no life! "

Philyaw! Welcome back man. You've been sorely missed. Oh, and Monica's dress looks real sweet on you man. You rock!

Julie
11/11/2018 01:19:43 pm

Global Educator of the Year in 2008 was Steven Couch.

https://www.globaltiesus.org/our-impact/awards/133-educator-of-the-year-award

Jim (not John)
11/11/2018 02:22:14 pm

Oh my.

Crash55
11/6/2018 10:01:25 pm

Why do people with these stupid Templar myths? Outside if France almost no Templar’s were convicted. There assets were transferred to the Hospitallers. The members either joined other orders such as the Hospitallers or were allowed to retire. The order had outlived it’s mandate and they got too involved in the matters of the French crown.

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American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/6/2018 10:13:07 pm

"too involved in the affairs of the French crown" is a gross oversimplification. Phillip the Fair owed them quite a bit of money.

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Crash55
11/7/2018 05:38:59 pm

True but I didn’t want to go into all of that. The whole thing was a way to exert power and get out of debt.

Basil Fawlty
11/6/2018 10:17:51 pm

"The members either joined other orders such as the Hospitallers or were allowed to retire."

Whatever you do don't talk about the torture or the burning alive!

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Torquemada
11/6/2018 10:30:03 pm

Well, they should have just confessed.

Crash55
11/7/2018 05:37:30 pm

That only happened in France.

Many there did confess and later recanted but only a few were burned at the stake.

Teresa Parker
11/13/2018 07:20:09 pm

Wrong website morons! http://cclpworldwide.com/eci/view-content/12/Award.html

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Jim
11/14/2018 07:16:29 pm

That " Future Life Institute" where she Is on the leadership team sure has some interesting characters.

J. L. Mee,
The in-depth knowledge he gained was crucial to reaching a scientific understanding of how spiritual beings communicate with the brains we inhabit. This, in turn, was essential for formulating scientific approach for enhancing a being's consciousness and reincarnation skills.

Rita Mee
Rita Mee is a lifelong student of higher wisdom and truth. She has been trained in Ericssonian Hypnosis, Past/Future Life Regression Hypnosis, Healing From The Body Level Up, Yuen Energetics, Body Talk, Quantum Wave Lasers, Psych-K, Access Consciousness, Humanistic Astrology, NeuroCellular Repatterning, Inner Light Consciousness, Timeline Therapy, Huna Philosophy, Intuitive, Psychic, and Spiritual Development, Kinesiology, Feng Shui, Emotional Freedom Technique, and Soul Clearing.

Anne Jirsch
is a London born professional psychic with a large worldwide following.

etc. etc. etc.

http://www.futurelives.org/public/1about.html

I see Muir is also a member the Rosicrucian Order AMORC

Through our teachings you will gain specific knowledge of metaphysics, mysticism, philosophy, psychology, parapsychology, and science not taught by conventional educational systems or traditional religions. Imagine setting a new course for your future; one that promises to be more in line with who you really are and more fulfilling than anything you've previously experienced.

https://www.amorc.org/

How interesting

Dan
11/6/2018 10:50:03 pm

"What is it with France and these bizarre conspiracies? And, more importantly, why do they not stay in France?"

Great question! I love thinking about how this sort of stuff is propagated.

I think it gets spread around by the sorts of folks that support a market economy for stuff like Lévi and Taxil wrote (and drew or had drawn).

That seems pretty simplistic, I know, but when you expand your thinking to the geography and personalities it gets really fun.

So maybe groups like the G.D. And the O.T.O and the Freemasons, in all their permutations bridges the gap for getting Baphomet to the U.S.?

I think that it's really interesting that Taxil and Lévi were both heavily in to writing-as-a-full-contact-sport, which seems to be the hallmark of the writers whose writings seem to achieve the most velocity when it comes to how far and fast their stuff spreads, and how quickly other writers pick it up and start writing about it.

I mean, "Whoa!", those two were nutty.

Anyways, have you ever read this bit from Paul Devereux:

http://www.pauldevereux.co.uk/v5/html/body_leylines.html

He has some interesting comments on how the "ley line" thing was tossed back and forth between Britain and American until it was conflated in to the soufflé that we know it as today.

I tend to spend more time on Food History for the same reason that this stuff is so exciting and interesting. Food is way, way less complex, as you know.






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Joseph Craven
11/7/2018 01:01:09 am

Forget all this Templar nonsense, that's clearly a copyrighted statue of Baphomet. Somebody call the Satanic Temple so they can hop in a time machine and sue Éliphas Lévi.

(apologies for the silly lawsuit tangent)

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Joe Scales
11/8/2018 03:28:59 pm

I'm certain there are many who might expect Satanists to be more litigious than other religious groups. Present company excepted.

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Jim
11/7/2018 05:41:24 pm

BOOK 2 OUT,,,, yay

"Learn the story of the Katherine, the lead ship that carried Prince Henry, as she crashes into an island of oaks in St Margaret’s Bay (as named by the Scots)"

Island of oaks ? ,,, here we go.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/JovanHuttonPulitzer/?ref=br_rs

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American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/7/2018 05:49:25 pm

As I noted during the first Gulf War, the Templars were reputed to worship a mysterious Black Head and...

Gen. Schwarzkopf; his name means "Black Head"
Gen, Colin Powell HAS a black head.

There, History Channel. I've given you a show.

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Jim
11/7/2018 06:04:25 pm

Colin Powell,,,,,,I'll give you Colin Powell :

"The simple but true fact of life is that you become like those with whom you closely associate - for the good and the bad."

Diana Muir-- Pulitzer, Wolter

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Jim
11/8/2018 08:19:31 am

If you click on Preview under the photo of the book one can glean more information.

http://www.lulu.com/shop/diana-j-muir/the-lost-templar-journals-of-prince-henry-sinclair-book-1-1353-1395/paperback/product-23844155.html

Of note page 11 (Foreword by Reverend Terry L Tilton )

"Anxiously we await the filming and search for this evidence, if indeed it exists."

"the filming",,,,,is this the face of a new "America Unearthed" ?

Also of note (page 4) is the list of other books still in process by Muir, not 10 but 20,,,, yippee
They start off about Henry Sinclair but by book 8 turn to (you guessed it) Muir's supposed family line, the Wemyss/Weems

Book 8, David Wemyss, Grand Master and Earl 1498

Book 11, James Wemyss, Baron of Nova Scotia, 1560-1640

Baron of Nova Scotia ? Really ? for 80 years, really ? Are not Baronys given as Crown charters and recognized by the crown? I thought they were hiding out from the royalty of Europe ! hmmmm

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Jim
11/8/2018 09:19:07 am

Also, the French established Port Royal on Nova Scotia in 1605 !!
Imagine that, the French colonizing Nova Scotia and never even noticing that it was already colonized, with the Baron James Wemyss already there ruling Nova Scotia !! Wow, how in the hell did those French miss the fact that Nova Scotia was already colonized !
Hahahaha,,, too funny

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Doc Rock
11/8/2018 12:10:13 pm

Scotland established a short-lived colony in Nova Scotia around 1620 and sold titles of nobility along with large landholdings to those with the coin. I think this was during a brief period when the French lost control of the area or the Scots simply chose to contest it.


American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/8/2018 01:14:50 pm

The question arises, why would the French call it "New Scotland"? Were there no French placenames to stick "New" in front of?

Or was there an earlier French name?

Jim
11/8/2018 02:37:05 pm

Doc Rock, stop raining on my parade. Lol.
Riddle me this:

Muir; " Book 11, James Wemyss, Baron of Nova Scotia, 1560-1640"

I guess maybe Both James and John Wemyss were Barons of Nova Scotia at the same time.

John Wemyss, 1st Earl of Wemyss (1586–1649) was a Scottish politician.[1]
Knighted in 1618, in 1625 Wemyss was created a Baronet of Nova Scotia in 1625, with a charter to the barony of New Wemyss in that province of Canada. In 1628 he was raised to the Peerage of Scotland as Lord Wemyss of Elcho, and in 1633 he was further honoured when he was made Lord Elcho and Methel and Earl of Wemyss, also in the Peerage of Scotland.[2]
He was Lord High Commissioner to the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland, a Privy Councillor and one of the Committee of the Estates. Wemyss later supported the Scottish parliament against Charles I in the Wars of the Three Kingdoms, and died in 1649. He married Jane Gray (daughter of Patrick Gray and his second wife, Mary Stewart, daughter of Robert Stewart, 1st Earl of Orkney, the King's uncle) and was succeeded by his only son, David, the second Earl.[2] "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wemyss,_1st_Earl_of_Wemyss

Note also that John "He was Lord High Commissioner to the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland,",, hmm not very Templarish.

And about this guy:

Book 8, David Wemyss, Grand Master and Earl 1498

If John was the first Earl of Wemyss, what the heck was David Earl of ?


Doc Rock
11/8/2018 03:17:15 pm

Jim,

It comes in handy to recognize early (but post-French) Scottish settlement in Acadie as well as later Irish, Scottish, and Scotch-Irish settlement in that area as well as the broader Canadian Maritimes. Since most folks only associate the region with French settlement there is always the danger that some folks will attempt to attribute any evidence of celtic influence in the region to pre-Colombian Irish monks or Scottish Templars, etc.

Monica Parkes
11/9/2018 12:20:49 pm

I think if you follow her on FB they've cut it down to 8 books, combining some of the authors. And the dates? 80 years? That's the date of journal, not the Baron of Nova Scotia. If you check your favorite resource Wikipedia, you'll find James Wemyss, Baron of Nova Scotia received land on Anticosti Island. They were given out for service to the Scottish crown, not to hide from the English who were in Nova Scotia! It was meant to encourage Scottish immigration to Canada and was part of the "The Nova Scotia Scheme" Don't know your history much do you? I've learned a lot from following her. maybe you should lurk on her page. You might learn something too. AND YES it seems America Unearthed is BACK if they're going to do it on camera.

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Jim
11/9/2018 12:33:22 pm

Nope both you and Muir got it wrong:
James Wemyss was absolutely not the Baron of Nova Scotia, John Wemyss was ! Different people !

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wemyss,_1st_Earl_of_Wemyss

Don't know how to read much do you ?


Dunior
11/15/2018 03:25:10 pm

There was no Baron of Nova Scotia in the sixteenth century at all. Those awarded Baronetcies of Nova Scotia were referred to as "Baronet" not Baron. If memory serves there was only one Baron of Nova Scotia and his name was William Alexander. There was no Baron of Nova Scotia prior to him.

Doc Rock
11/8/2018 01:27:49 pm

Acadie

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American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/8/2018 03:04:05 pm

The correct answer is:
"The province was first named in the 1621 Royal Charter granting to Sir William Alexander in 1632 the right to settle lands including modern Nova Scotia, Cape Breton Island, Prince Edward Island, New Brunswick and the Gaspé Peninsula."

But thanks for playing our game Evangeline.

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Monica Parkes
11/9/2018 12:25:07 pm

John and James were commonly interchanged sometimes even for the same person. Actually they were brothers. One was the son of the Earl of Wemyss and would be the future Earl of Wemyss The other one was given other Wemyss lands at Bogie, Lord of Bogie and the Baron of Nova Scotia which didn't really mean much after Nova Scotia was settled by the French, then the English. According to history the gggdau of Henry (Katherine) married Earl David Wemyss who was the Grandmaster of Scottish Rite Freemason of all Scotland. That how the two families tie together.

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Jim
11/9/2018 01:48:26 pm

Bogus:

"One was the son of the Earl of Wemyss and would be the future Earl of Wemyss The other one was given other Wemyss lands at Bogie, Lord of Bogie and the Baron of Nova Scotia"

The first Earl and Baron of Nova Scotia were one and the same man who held both titles.

John Wemyss, 1st Earl of Wemyss (1586–1649)
David Wemyss, 2nd Earl of Wemyss (6 September 1610 – July 1679)
Margaret Wemyss, 3rd Countess of Wemyss and Countess of Cromarty (1 January 1659 – 11 March 1705)
David Wemyss, 4th Earl of Wemyss (29 April 1678 – 15 March 1720)

Don't know where you get Catherine from, but David Wemyss, 4th Earl of Wemyss' third marriage was in July 1716, to Elizabeth St. Clair (d. 1721), the daughter of Henry, Lord Sinclair. Together, they had two daughters.
The Wemyss family did not carry Henry Sinclairs bloodline from this as there were no sons produced to carry the Sinclair bloodline along the Wemyss family name !

American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/9/2018 01:50:01 pm

"John and James were commonly interchanged sometimes even for the same person."

How conveeeeeeeenient, Mr. Bigglesworth. "I''m not wrong, the records are!"

Julie
11/11/2018 01:26:04 pm

John and James were commonly interchanged? In 45 years of doing genealogy and attending conferences both locally and in Salt Lake City, I have never heard of this.
Please document with peer-reviewed articles and evidence.

Thanks!

Dunior
11/15/2018 05:41:49 pm

The "Scottish Rite" was an American invention. It was not established until 1801 in Charleston, South Carolina. So Scottish Freemasonry is somewhat different than that. None of the previous incarnations were known of as the Scottish Rite. So get your facts straight. It makes it sound like you don't know what you are talking about in addition to the other errors in previous comments. The first speculative Masons in Scotland were the sons of the Baron of Nova Scotia William and Anthony Alexander. They joined an operative Stone Masons lodge. William may have been the first Mason to step foot in what would become Canada. Welcome to the Thunderdome.

Jim
11/9/2018 01:09:47 am

It should also be noted that besides getting the first name wrong Muir also got the dates of birth and death wrong for the "Baron of Nova Scotia".

Muir; " Book 11, James Wemyss, Baron of Nova Scotia, 1560-1640"

Wiki via Oxford Dictionary of National Biography:
"John Wemyss, 1st Earl of Wemyss (1586–1649)"

John Wemyss, the 1st Earl of Wemyss was also the Baron of Nova Scotia. However it seems that Muir mistakenly claims that David Wemyss (b. 1494) as an Earl Prior to the first Earl.

Wiki-- David Wemyss, 2nd Earl of Wemyss (only son of John Wemyss, the 1st Earl of Wemyss) September 1610 – July 1679.
Muir lists a David Wemyss 1615- 1679 (She is getting warmer)

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Jim
11/9/2018 01:47:00 am

https://www.amazon.com/Lost-Templar-Chronicles-Vol-1353-1404/dp/1387760092

From Amazon:

"Vol. 1 tells the story of Henry as a young boy and his journey to become a man, a Prince of Orkney and an Earl of Scotland"

No no no no !,,,,,,,"Henry I Sinclair, Jarl of Orkney, Baron of Roslin"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_I_Sinclair,_Earl_of_Orkney

No Prince, no Earl of Scotland.

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Monica Parkes
11/9/2018 12:28:17 pm

Wikipedia? Really? garbage in garbage out. You've got to have a better source than that.

Jim
11/9/2018 12:54:10 pm

Wiki via Oxford Dictionary of National Biography:
"John Wemyss, 1st Earl of Wemyss (1586–1649)"

Learn how to read !

Monica Parkes
11/9/2018 12:27:16 pm

So how's right about the dates? Muir who has the journals and first hand knowledge? Or generations of researchers who have 'guessed' at the dates because there are no parish registers for that time period? Don't trust the dates on any ancient pedigree. It's pure guessing based on dates on probates, land records and heraldry records which simply tell you that they were at 'least' 21 when they appeared on those documents. You guys don't much about genealogy do you?

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Doc Rock
11/9/2018 12:52:49 pm

They probably know about as much about genealogy as Muir does about Old English LOL.

Jim
11/9/2018 12:57:34 pm

Did the records also get the names wrong, or was that just Muir ?

American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/9/2018 01:53:37 pm

But she DOESN'T have the journals and you ARE in that chair Blanche!

Jim
11/9/2018 03:14:50 am

OMG,,, I just can't resist, Muir is speaking of Nicolo Zeno.

"In 1369 he became patron saint of a "traffic jam"

https://scontent.fyxe1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/45552506_10156273639767800_7668802142961926144_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_ht=scontent.fyxe1-1.fna&oh=d352b3bd65b8bbb4ee0f8ecfa517b2ea&oe=5C7EFC79

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Jim
11/9/2018 11:06:14 am

https://scontent.fyxe1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/45593351_10156273638382800_2614801421521911808_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_ht=scontent.fyxe1-1.fna&oh=855ab83630755569bab88c9f7516b08b&oe=5C714CF1

Henry writes of his 8th bday,, then Muir praddles on about this:
8 is a sacred number, Maltese cross has 8 points. LDS church baptises children at 8, wtf !
Mentored by Scott and Janet for the last two years, introduced to other "experts"

https://scontent.fyxe1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/45636460_10156273638612800_4378589179676721152_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_ht=scontent.fyxe1-1.fna&oh=f9958ea025f402bd6cb384dc35bd8bc7&oe=5C8860EA

Copper culture : existed about 2250 BC - Artifacts found as far as Egyp,t Constantinople, Great Britian. Really Diana ????

https://scontent.fyxe1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/45566959_10156273638827800_8236503541393391616_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_ht=scontent.fyxe1-1.fna&oh=acf37f5118fea3b1215d7542caa60ec0&oe=5C758820

Gives her (Wolters) history of Micmacs, how they became allies of the Sinclair family.

https://scontent.fyxe1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/45693895_10156273639102800_8415678349937999872_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent.fyxe1-1.fna&oh=6e2a912781a09581864fe67ef1cf69d4&oe=5C7AB37D

entries from Henry's childhood journal. Highlight being when the seamen from Orkney made their beds on the beach and they got destroyed by the tide.Apparently Orkney seamen didn't know about tides ! But the Micmac found it funny.

These links were found here:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/149844915349213/

You have to scroll down to Mike Morgan's post on Jasons blog entry "New Book claims to translate Henry Sinclairs Lost Medieval Journals"

WOO WOO

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Jim
11/9/2018 11:15:42 am

The absolutely most notable quote from these is:

"Book #1 Journal,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Translated from Latin

,,,,,,,,,,This year Father Dominic will teach me Latin, French,,,,,,"

8 year old boy writing in Latin will be taught Latin this year ???

Doc Rock
11/9/2018 11:31:58 am

Jim,

So a 14th century Scot tutored in Latin and French would keep a diary in Old English?

Jim
11/9/2018 11:48:35 am

",,,,,,,,,,This year Father Dominic will teach me Latin, French, Gaelic and Norwegian,,,,,"

I guess one could argue that at 8 he had already been taught to read, write and converse in Latin. Sounds like a load to me.
This crap is nonsensical,,, Zeno became the patron SAINT of traffic jams while he was STILL ALIVE ???? Not how it works.

Monica Parkes
11/13/2018 07:26:47 pm

You guys do realize it's copyrighted??? Better hope she doesn't sue you! or did you just steal them off someone's FB page?

American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/13/2018 10:27:00 pm

Monica,

Being stupider than Scott Wolter is a two sided coin: it is extremely difficult, and not something to aspire to. Still, if that's your thing...

Monica Parkes
11/9/2018 12:31:30 pm

No stupid, Henry's journals were in Latin and I'm sure if he knew rudimentary Latin Father whomever would teach him more. It's the later ones that were written in Middle English. How do I know? BECAUSE I READ THE BOOK! And you haven't.... Duh!

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Doc Rock
11/9/2018 01:40:35 pm

I'm getting confused here. First the claim (as per her statement on Wolter's blog) was that the journals were written in Latin (with some Gaelic mixed in) then later in Old English then later in Modern English. Now we are talking about Latin and then Middle English.

Methinks the loch waters are getting quite muddy at this point and things are now well into yet another round of the Gish Gallop.

Time for me to head to the pub for a nice recuperative liquid lunch and leave this mess for you folks to sort out. I'm thinking a couple wee drams of Laphroaig in the spirit of the occasion.


But down the line I am looking forward to revisiting the topic when/if the reviews of the book by the real pros come out.

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Joe Scales
11/9/2018 03:37:57 pm

Wait a sec Monica... you're here calling folks stupid and you bought the book?

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Dunior
11/16/2018 04:41:52 pm

You must be HP. You just threatened to sue someone. So funny. You are not even a good troll. All your facts and background info are wrong or skewed to your point of view. But you are entertaining.

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American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/16/2018 05:32:29 pm

@Monica:

"You guys do realize it's copyrighted??? Better hope she doesn't sue you!"

Are you familiar with the concept of "fair use"?

Jim
11/10/2018 09:43:30 pm

https://scontent.fyxe1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/45636460_10156273638612800_4378589179676721152_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_ht=scontent.fyxe1-1.fna&oh=f9958ea025f402bd6cb384dc35bd8bc7&oe=5C8860EA

Muir:

",,,,,,of the island my father calls Isle of the White Stag. He Has been there six times with his father.,,,,"

Was his father repeatedly crossing the ocean in the wee ships of the day and exposing a toddler to this ?

While I am not 100% certain of this, it would appear that Henry's grandfather died when Henry's father was about 9 years old. Most likely only 1 trip a year would mean Henry's grandfather was bringing a 3 year old toddler on this dangerous journey. Plus 5 more journeys from 4 years old to 9 years old.
Does this sound remotely likely ?

Barons of Roslin are on record for the 13th to 14th century:

William Sinclair (c. 1230 – 1297)[3]
Henry Sinclair (c. 1275 – 1336)
Willam Sinclair (1327–1358)
Henry I Sinclair, Jarl of Orkney, Baron of Roslin (c.1345 – c.1400)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barony_of_Roslin

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Joseph Waters link
11/11/2018 03:58:22 pm

It is a key characteristic of a far right-winger or ultra-conservative they they are keen to believe the most outrageous lies. The more outrageous the more likely they are to believe them, indeed. I think it was the shock, even 100 years after the French Revolution, that helped cultivate this conspiracy mongering among reactionary aristocratic and bourgeois classes.

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American cool "Disco" Dan
11/11/2018 04:28:08 pm

I'm going to steal from Jimmy Carter's book and say

"Why not the best?"

Seriously, is that lame dogshit the only thing you could come up with?

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Joe Scales
11/11/2018 05:02:32 pm

"It is a key characteristic of a far right-winger or ultra-conservative they they are keen to believe the most outrageous lies."

You mean lies as told by far left-wingers or ultra-liberals? It's called bipartisanism...

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Joseph Waters link
11/11/2018 11:43:39 pm

Son, you are confused, if by "far left-wingers" you are referring to American liberal Democrats. There is only one American ruling political party and it has two closely aligned factions: right-wing Democrats and far right-wing Republicans; fascists and fascist sympathizers and collaborators.

Joe Scales
11/12/2018 11:06:27 am

Humorless as well as clueless. Begone with your bullshit, reactionary politics.

Joseph Waters link
11/13/2018 12:27:37 am

Reactionary?! As a genuine leftist, I'm anything but reactionary.

Joe Scales
11/15/2018 09:51:56 am

The folly of your position. Though "reactionary politics" was a moniker used against conservatives in the recent past, it now applies to you. Look it up and see who you really are.

Jim
11/17/2018 12:38:52 am

Muir:

https://dianamuir.blogspot.com/?fbclid=IwAR3ONUGT07JimPuTFMrNe3dKZJ8CFcUq8lBaNDGY3hGZexXlWph6erKT54A

"And of course, we didn't know about technology when I was a senior in high school. We were still working on Tandy computers bought at Radio Shack."

Yikes, she claims to have graduated University in 1975 but used a Tandy Computer in High school ! They weren't on the market until 1977 !

"The original TRS-80 Micro Computer System (later known as the Model I to distinguish it from successors) was launched in 1977"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_TRS-80_and_Tandy-branded_computers#Model_I

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American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/17/2018 01:06:11 am

Clearly she meant the Altair 8800 which would still be wrong.

Begone! Begone back to thy mother's basement!

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Jim
11/18/2018 10:14:27 am

Looks like our Diana Muir can trace her roots back to Methusaleh and Adam !!

"There is a family book "Hobert Genealogy" which outlines my own ancestry for 30 generations (the max I could get the program to compile) and a register report which shows the ancestry from myself back to Methusaleh. (97 generations!)"

"Check the links below for links to the Family Gedcom and 102 generation pedigree chart, from myself to Adam."

https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/m/u/i/Diana-J-Muir/index.html

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American Cool "Disco" Dan
11/18/2018 03:24:41 pm

I have it on good authority that I'm descended from the Easter Bunny. This fruitcake is tailor made for our Scott.

Did I mention that Scott Wolter is an idiot?

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Bezalel
11/20/2018 08:32:42 am

We are all descendants of bunnies.
Those things fuck like rabbits

Jim
11/21/2018 07:48:50 pm

New comment by Muir on Wolters blog,,,,,,It's a doozie !
claims she had the book DNA tested (thats right DNA hahahah) but didn't know the person who did the tests 5 years ago, or where he at, so, um,,,,er,,,she didn't get the results !!!!!!!!
Great humor !!!!!

Muir:

" I'd already approached 1 museum prior to the University and both said to send them to the Smithsonian. Not trusting the Smithsonian, I opted for a private searcher."

A private searcher = Wolter hahaahaha
Not trusting the Smithsonian,,,,,well I guess we know which side of the street she walks on.
But, but, but, Diana, you didn't answer any of the questions,,,,,,

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Paul
12/15/2018 10:36:52 pm

I have perused the many websites that Ms.Diana J Muir has posted and listed her credentials. Not to drag her through the mud but only to show even though she may write well and no doubt is educated, she is one of these people who if their lips are moving, every word needs to be vetted. As for her books and research, genealogy is probably mostly cut and paste and the rest mostly fantasy. Just sayin', please see following.




Name: Diana J Collier/Hobert/Hanson/Muir

From Ancestry citation from 2003, Ms. Muir has traced her lineage 97 generations back to Methusaleh and 102 generations back to Adam.
Listed Education:
Clinton IA High School, graduated 1971
Brigham Young University 1971-1974 Music
Brigham Young University, J. Reuban Clark Law School, one year
Eastern Montana College 1984-1987 Sociology, Graduate Student President
University of Houston – Clear Lake 1986-1987 Future Studies (Sociology)
University of Iowa 2000 Ph.D. Technology and Social Change
University of Iowa 2000 Ph.D. Education
Harvard University 2002 Post-graduate degree program, education
University of Wisconsin-Madison 2002 Distance Education Certificate
University of Iowa 1971-2001
Columbia College 1996-1997 BA History/Sociology
Currently in a Ph.D. Anthropology program, no school listed.
LDS Church Accredited Genealogist 1975
Listed Employment:
Director/CEO World Virtual School Dec 1995-Feb 2013
Curriculum Development University of Iowa 2012-2013
CEO Porta-School Inc 2000-2013
CEO The Personal Learning Center Dec 1995-2012
Director of Curriculum Development AMDG Inc 1999-2008
CEO World Virtual School Sep 2009-Present
Director Hawking Foundation Atlanta
Retired as a Chief Warrant Officer and Admin for a reserve unit, US Army and GA State Defense Force 2009, 35 year veteran
LPN in the Army for many years
MP/Intelligence Officer and Admin
Paralegal

Other:
One of original creators of World Gen Web
Two bankruptcies.
Multiple legal issues, criminal and civil.
Sued Blackboard for $400,000 in 2006
Websites for most claimed businesses are no longer supported.

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Gary Gianotti
1/19/2019 01:32:04 pm

Personally I have not been on Jason’s site here for a couple of years! Couple months ago I have been seeing Dian’s posts and read about her series of books coming out!

What I learned is she is full of shit and so is Scott Wolter with reading fake and fictacious journals that Muir allowed a grand master study! If she can not produce those journals then go pound sand you con artist Dian Muir!

Last note, Jason it’s not old English it’s either Latin or Old Scot’s writing! He Scott if you read this! Pound sand dead beat....

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          • Akhbar al-zaman
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          • Murtada ibn al-‘Afif
          • Al-Maqrizi on the Pyramids
          • Al-Suyuti on the Pyramids
        • The Hunt for Noah's Ark
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        • Book of Liang: Fusang
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        • Travels of Sir John Mandeville
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        • Al-Biruni on the Great Flood
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          • Fragments on Atlantis
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          • W. Scott-Elliot >
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          • Termier on Atlantis
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        • Lost Cities >
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        • The Many Wives of Jesus
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          • Fossils and the Supernatural
          • Fossils, Myth, and Pseudo-History
          • Man During the Stone Age
          • Fossil Bones and Giants
          • American Elephant Myths
          • The Mammoth and the Flood
          • Fossils and Myth
          • Fossil Origin of the Cyclops
          • Mastodon, Mammoth, and Man
        • Fragments on Giants
        • Manichaean Book of Giants
        • Geoffrey on British Giants
        • Alfonso X's Hermetic History of Giants
        • Boccaccio and the Fossil 'Giant'
        • Book of Howth
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        • The Giants of Sardinia
        • Giants and the Sons of God
        • The Magnetism of Evil
        • Tertiary Giants
        • Smithsonian Giant Reports
        • Early American Giants
        • The Giant of Coahuila
        • Jewish Encyclopedia on Giants
        • Index of Giants
        • Newspaper Accounts of Giants
        • Lanier's A Book of Giants
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        • Old Mythology in New Apparel
        • Blavatsky on Dinosaurs
        • Teddy Roosevelt on Bigfoot
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        • Maspero's Review of Akhbar al-zaman
        • The Holy Grail as Lucifer's Crown Jewel
        • The Mutinous Sea
        • The Rock Wall of Rockwall
        • Fabulous Zoology
        • The Origins of Talos
        • Mexican Mythology
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        • Maqrizi's Names of the Pharaohs
      • Extreme History >
        • Roman Empire Hoax
        • American Antiquities
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        • Historical Chronology of the Mexicans
        • Maspero on the Predynastic Sphinx
        • Vestiges of the Mayas
        • Ragnarok: The Age of Fire and Gravel
        • Origins of the Egyptian People
        • The Secret Doctrine >
          • Volume 1: Cosmogenesis
          • Volume 2: Anthropogenesis
        • Phoenicians in America
        • The Electric Ark
        • Traces of European Influence
        • Prince Henry Sinclair
        • Pyramid Prophecies
        • Templars of Ancient Mexico
        • Chronology and the "Riddle of the Sphinx"
        • The Faith of Ancient Egypt
        • Spirit of the Hour in Archaeology
        • Book of the Damned
        • Great Pyramid As Noah's Ark
        • Richard Shaver's Proofs
    • Alien Encounters >
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        • Inquiry into Shaver and Palmer
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        • Whirling Wheels
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        • Soviet Search for Lemuria
        • Visitors from Outer Space
        • Unidentified Flying Objects (Abstract)
        • "Flying Saucers"? They're a Myth
        • UFO Hypothesis Survival Questions
        • Air Force Academy UFO Textbook
        • The Condon Report on Ancient Astronauts
        • Atlantis Discovery Telegrams
        • Ancient Astronaut Society Telegram
        • Noah's Ark Cables
        • The Von Daniken Letter
        • CIA Psychic Probe of Ancient Mars
        • Scott Wolter Lawsuit
        • UFOs in Ancient China
        • CIA Report on Noah's Ark
        • CIA Noah's Ark Memos
        • Congressional Ancient Aliens Testimony
        • Ancient Astronaut and Nibiru Email
        • Congressional Ancient Mars Hearing
        • House UFO Hearing
      • Ancient Extraterrestrials >
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        • The Moon Hoax
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        • The Stanzas of Dzyan (Hoax)
        • Aerolites and Religion
        • What Is Theosophy?
        • Plane of Ether
        • The Adepts from Venus
      • A Message from Mars
      • Saucer Mystery Solved?
      • Orville Wright on UFOs
      • Interdimensional Flying Saucers
      • Flying Saucers Are Real
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      • The Devils of Loudun
      • Sublime and Beautiful
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      • Defining a Zombie
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      • Science and Fairy Stories
      • The Cursed Car
    • Classic Fiction >
      • Lucian's True History
      • Some Words with a Mummy
      • The Coming Race
      • King Solomon's Mines
      • An Inhabitant of Carcosa
      • The Xipéhuz
      • Lot No. 249
      • The Novel of the Black Seal
      • The Island of Doctor Moreau
      • Pharaoh's Curse
      • Edison's Conquest of Mars
      • The Lost Continent
      • Count Magnus
      • The Mysterious Stranger
      • The Wendigo
      • Sredni Vashtar
      • The Lost World
      • The Red One
      • H. P. Lovecraft >
        • Dagon
        • The Call of Cthulhu
        • History of the Necronomicon
        • At the Mountains of Madness
        • Lovecraft's Library in 1932
      • The Skeptical Poltergeist
      • The Corpse on the Grating
      • The Second Satellite
      • Queen of the Black Coast
      • A Martian Odyssey
    • Classic Genre Movies
    • Miscellaneous Documents >
      • The Balloon-Hoax
      • A Problem in Greek Ethics
      • The Migration of Symbols
      • The Gospel of Intensity
      • De Profundis
      • The Life and Death of Crown Prince Rudolf
      • The Bathtub Hoax
      • Crown Prince Rudolf's Letters
      • Position of Viking Women
      • Employment of Homosexuals
      • James Dean's Scrapbook
      • James Dean's Love Letters
      • The Amazing James Dean Hoax!
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