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Nephilim Theorist Says Hitler Was Possessed by Nephilim, Democratic Party Continues Nazi-Nephilim Agenda

8/1/2016

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If there is one thing that every right-thinking person should be able to agree upon, it’s that Hitler was a pretty bad guy who ran one of the evilest regimes in human history. Yet fringe history fans have a hard time separating themselves from the Nazis. Some fringe historians like Jan Van Helsing, Frank Joseph, Jacques de Mahieu, and Miguel Serrano are or were actual Nazis (neo-Nazis, “esoteric Hitlerists,” Nazi sympathizers, or whatever), while others are simply happy to endorse Nazi propaganda or ideas without formally declaring their allegiance to the Reich. Part of the blame falls on Jacques Bergier and Louis Pauwels, who popularized the idea that Hitler received secret knowledge from space aliens, but a greater part falls on the extreme elements of the far right, who use fringe history as a cover for racism.
Therefore, it was not too surprising when I watched a video presentation by Christian conservative and Nephilim theorist Gary Wayne on evangelical Jon Pounders’s Now You See TV only to have Pounders talk about how the Nazis “did some really amazing things” before catching himself and adding this: “Even though they were evil things, they did some really amazing things as well that really boggles (sic) my mind.” Those “amazing” things, incidentally, aren’t well-known Nazi projects like the Autobahn but rather “superweapons” and various occult material.
 
Wayne has some smattering of history, but his view of the rise of Nazism is drawn more from the Morning of the Magicians​ (1960) of Pauwels and Bergier than from facts, so he sees Hitler as the culmination of a secret stream that began with the Gnostics, whose legacy the Freemasons transmitted to Theosophy and thus to Nazism. The only part of that which is true is that some Nazi theorists drew on Theosophical material to concoct their Aryan race theory. Wayne knows some of this, but he prefers to offer a conspiratorial approach. He also doesn’t know how to pronounce anything, so he calls Helena Blavatsky “Blahff-skai.”
 
Wayne mistakenly believes that the Nazis widely shared Heinrich Himmler’s occult beliefs, and therefore he asserts that Himmler’s interest in the Holy Grail, which Himmler believed to be a pagan magic object, is actually a mask for a search for the Nephilim bloodline. To this he adds a belief taken from modern pseudoscience that the Nazis believed in a high-tech Atlantis filled with superhuman beings and wonder-weapons. I suppose it’s charming that he claims that Edward Bulwer-Lytton’s fictional magic substance vril, later taken over by Theosophy under the mistaken notion that it was real, isn’t what either Bulwer or Theosophy said it was but rather is the taint of the Nephilim in one’s blood!
 
Wayne believes that vril is likely the Rh-negative blood line, representing the Nephilim’s contribution to the Aryan bloodline. I will admit that this is the first I have heard of the claim that that Aryan race and its allies on Atlantis were the “natural enemy” of the pure Semitic race of Adam and the Israelites. I suppose in a way it’s the natural outgrowth of Ignatius Donnelly’s idea that Atlantis was the land populated by the Nephilim, but it took Pounders to stop things for a moment and remind listeners that they are not calling any Rh-negative or Aryan viewers evil. Wayne, though, says that the “Isis gene” will help Nephilim descendants “vibrate” to godhood. This seems to originate in a crazy 2003 web page that argues that “Genesis” means “gene of Isis,” so you know it has to be true.
 
This might have been cute or even seem harmless until Wayne alleges that the Jews, specifically the Rothschilds and their fellow international bankers, created the Nazi party to resurrect the Nephilim and to “correct” their mistake, communism. That’s pretty much just offensive however you look at it.
 
Wayne believes Hitler was possessed by a demon (i.e. a Nephilim), a claim that bubbles up from Pauwels and Bergier, but which excuses the evils of Nazism as not really the fault of the Nazis but of some supernatural evil. This is dangerous because it gives license to ignore the atrocities of Nazism as something that human beings could not have actually done, and therefore we have no reason to look within ourselves to understand the origins of evil. Similarly, Wayne believes that Nostradamus was a prophet of Satan and had genuine knowledge of the coming of Hitler.
 
Wayne stops to deliver a polemic against the Democratic Party, arguing that it is “offensive” to him to call the party by its given name. “They are not the Democratic Party,” he said. “They are the Democrat party.” Wayne is a conservative and therefore follows Rush Limbaugh in petty insult, though with the rationalization that “democratic” is an incorrect adjective for what he (wrongly) believes to be the survival of National Socialism in America. I have news for you, Gary: If you think Democrats don’t believe in democracy, well, Republicans aren’t too keen on our Republic. And in Australia you have a Liberal party that is conservative. Formal names are just that; you don’t get to rename at your convenience.
 
When it became clear that Wayne was using his alleged discussion of Nazism to deliver a sermon on the evils of American liberalism, I decided to shut off his hateful homily. The Nephilim, apparently, are not important for their proof of Biblical supernaturalism but because they help angry conservatives diabolize their political enemies in order to gin up votes for Republican politicians—just as that well-known lover of the rich, the powerful, and the elite, Jesus, intended.
29 Comments
Only Me
8/1/2016 02:19:16 pm

Why is ALWAYS the twin N's—Nephilim or Nazis—with these guys? And why is it some of these ideas seek to remove human agency in favor of some inhuman outside influence? Do they really believe no human has free will? If they do, there's no point injecting political ideologies into the mix. None of us have the capacity to decide our own destiny, if we accept their claims.

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DMENT
2/11/2023 05:42:18 am

I don't understand.
How does saying certain leaders may be in league with Satan remove their personal responsibility?
Wouldn't choosing to be in league with a character who is known to trick you, screw you over and never actually give you what you want in the end not only be stupid, but evil as well?
It's the same difference.

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Time Machine
8/1/2016 02:35:08 pm

>>use fringe history as a cover for racism<<

There are a few like that, but the appropriate statement should be "fringe historians, despite not being racist"

eg, Pauwels and Bergier

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Scott Hamilton
8/1/2016 02:59:04 pm

"Vibrate"? If you believe in the supernatural, why do you need the "vibrations" of the New Age?

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Shane Sullivan
8/1/2016 03:08:25 pm

Things that vibrate can be supernatural too.

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Time Machine
8/2/2016 12:57:14 am

Yeah, a scene in the film "Barbarella" springs to mind.

DaveR
8/2/2016 01:45:24 pm

My ex had a device that vibrated. It was neither supernatural nor alien technology.

Kal
8/1/2016 04:01:51 pm

Again with the false sameness argument. Then sprinkle in some extra nonsense about other totally different things, like Aryans and space gods, and the argument seems more like a desperate cry for help. Get this video maker some medication, or at least therapy. I did not want to add any hits to his vid, so I did not watch it.

The thumbnail though it of a native bound head, not an alien. That is a human skull. Many tribes do that, or did that, and some might still. It is not an alien.

Hitler was totally evil, but it doesn't hav e to be space demons. He had his own personal ones, and did not need demon aliens to do it.

Humans like to equate evil with some other force that cannot come from other humans just being bad for the sake of being bad. They would like to think that 'the devil made them do it', or nowadays, 'aliens', but no such devils need apply.

The wonder weapons weren't alien tech. They are propaganda. Other nation states would have, and later did have, the same tech. They just came up with it first.

It's not aliens, but just smart and maniacal people.

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Titus pullo
8/1/2016 07:04:52 pm

Excellent post!

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V
8/1/2016 10:18:59 pm

I think it's actually very important to recognize that Hitler was NOT "totally evil." The reason isn't because I think that Hitler should be excused for the things he did, but because I think that in completely ignoring anything he did that wasn't pure evil, we fail at learning the lesson we need to: the one of how he came to be in a position to do the harm he did in the first place. Because he DID do some good things, very early on--things that got him a lot of political support, got him elected into office as Fuhrer despite his hateful rhetoric.

Until we really learn the lesson that no one is completely evil, we have serious trouble with the lesson that no one is completely good, either, and in part because of that, we fail to recognize evil when it has a friendly face. We keep thinking that someone who does good things can't possibly be evil, and that's when we get murdered by serial killers and dictators with delusion of godhood that we elected into office ourselves.

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Time Machine
8/2/2016 12:53:06 am

I think the Bible is completely evil for misguiding people.

Time Machine
8/2/2016 01:00:27 am

Come to think of it, there are people in wheelchairs that are homeless and sleeping rough in America - and that should continue because they are unable to cut the mustard. It's their fault.

Nothing evil about that line of reasoning, which is completely accepted in the greatest country in the world.

Time Machine
8/2/2016 02:24:39 am

It's part of accepted American culture to poop on the disadvantaged and the oppressed

One American city introduced the prohibition making it illegal for people to carry sleeping blankets and sleeping bags.

Time Machine
8/2/2016 02:28:34 am

If you can't cut the mustard in America you're kicked while you're down. And that's encouraged.

Since someone mentioned the subject matter of evil.

Only Me
8/2/2016 04:22:40 am

"I think the Bible is completely evil for misguiding people."

The Bible isn't inherently good or evil. People who believe it, on the other hand, are just as capable of committing evil acts as those who don't. Nice try, but no cigar.

"Nothing evil about that line of reasoning, which is completely accepted in the greatest country in the world."
"It's part of accepted American culture to poop on the disadvantaged and the oppressed"
"If you can't cut the mustard in America you're kicked while you're down. And that's encouraged."

Since you made the claim, prove it. While you're at it, explain how you completely ignored the existence of soup kitchens, shelters and organizations created to help the disadvantaged.

"One American city introduced the prohibition making it illegal for people to carry sleeping blankets and sleeping bags."

Name the city. Also, include the *whole* story, so we can see what the intent and reasoning behind that decision might be. Cherry-picking to support your position shows an inherent weakness in that position.

One more thing: as someone who has left sexist, racist, homophobic and bigoted comments in his wake, you are not qualified to lecture about evil.

Irna link
8/2/2016 01:41:11 pm

"got him elected into office as Fuhrer": as a matter of fact, Hitler has never been elected, neither as Fuhrer nor as President or Chancellor!

V
8/2/2016 05:20:51 pm

I love how EVERYBODY managed to COMPLETELY MISS the message I explicitly stated, which was that Hitler had a great deal of popular support--and please don't try to tell me he didn't; I've seen the goddamn videos--because he LOOKED like a good guy, which included doing things that in the short term and for a specific group seemed to be very good things.

I don't expect GIGO to get ANYTHING, because he's too fucking stupid to see a brick wall in front of him, but seriously?

An Over-Educated Grunt
8/2/2016 07:11:25 pm

V, the fact that the Nazis never won a single majority in the Reichstag isn't a minor point. They came to power via obstructionism - only they could break the deadlock in government... which they'd created. They weren't even particularly subtle about their program, it's all in "Mein Kampf" if you can wade through the drivel. They smiled until they didn't have to smile any more but they didn't make any great secret of what was behind that smile. People just fooled themselves into believing they didn't mean those parts.

And your having "seen the videos" doesn't really mean much when the majority of those videos (Triumph of the Will is the obvious one here) were specifically Nazi propaganda pieces meant to make them look good.

DaveR
8/3/2016 07:59:13 am

Hitler and the Nazis came to power because he said things a majority of people wanted to hear.

Germany was once great, and we'll make the fatherland great again. The economic problems are not the fault of the German people, but the results of greedy bankers and corrupt businessmen, specifically the Jews. Put us in power and we will rebuild Germany.

Sound familiar?

For a while he and the party did what they promised. Millions of jobs were created and great public works projects were built, the Autobahn being the most famous. The German military was rebuilt and many people saw Hitler brazenly breaking the Treaty of Versailles as a sign of his strength. When Chamberlain and the rest of Europe did nothing, it only reinforced Hitler's resolve and belief that he could do whatever he wanted, and the German people felt Hitler was correct, they were great and destined to rule because nobody stopped them.

Hitler and the Nazis were very good for German industry and the white Germans who were not disabled and could prove all four grandparents were not Jewish. Ironically Hitler could not prove his own heritage. Also, Hitler was not even German. He joined the German army during WW1 because the Austrian army rejected his application.

To say Hitler was evil is too simple an explanation because he was a far more complex individual.

Antony
11/4/2018 04:22:28 am

Are u for real.. Nobody is really evil? So u say there is no absolute truth.. U must believe only in yourselve..

Mr. James P Peers link
8/9/2022 03:01:54 pm

Aliens or demons, same thing and same difference really.

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Titus pullo
8/1/2016 07:03:11 pm

Germany had some of the best scientists and engineers for decades before the nazis. WWi had Germany lead in artillery small arms chemical weapons and combined tactics. Germany had a much better technical educational system than France or Britain for decades. Wasn't the nazis that created German weapons but the existing scientific base. And he nazis screwed up some of the better weapons developed anyway. No superman just smooth politicians

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David Krein
8/1/2016 10:34:40 pm

Spot on Titus Pullo! What comes to mind to emphasize your point is the ME 262 first jet powered fighter plane of WWII. Came operational in 1943. Hitler ordered it to be developed as a "Fighter-Bomber" instead of an interdiction aircraft to combat the Flying Fortresses bombing Germany. Wasn't until 1944 that the Luftwaffe Generals convinced Hitler to change. Imagine what would have happened if early in 1943 before the P-51 Mustang (US) which didn't come into full force until 1944 (with the Rolls Royce engine) the devastation brought on the US Bombers! The P-51 Mustang was the only Allied aircraft to shoot down an ME 262 and mostly the it was because the inexperienced fighter pilots at that stage of the war. Most of the German experienced pilots were either dead or POW's.

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DaveR
8/2/2016 08:55:12 am

My understanding of the ME 262 is that field generals like Galland simply stopped obeying Hitler's commands and began deploying the 262 in the manner it was designed, a fighter jet, however it was too late to halt the superior numbers of Allied planes. Further to that, the ME 262 was designed in 1938 or 1939 but was not put into production because it was believed the war would be over in a matter of months.

Had the ME 262 been produced in large numbers prior to the Battle of Britain and employed as the main fighter instead of the ME 109 it's doubtful Britain would have held off the Luftwaffe. Even without the ME 262 the RAF was losing but when Goering switched from targeting British airfields to bombing London the RAF had time to regroup and come back with enough strength to cause Hitler to abandon his invasion plans and turn his attention to Russia.

Germany developed the first tactical jet, ballistic missile, wire guided missile, radio guided missile with a television for targeting, and radar to guide bombers to their targets. Many officers in Operation Paperclip were amazed at the technological advantages the Nazis had over the Allies.

Time Machine
8/2/2016 12:55:56 am

America was just as interested in Mengele's human experiments as in Wernher von Braun's rocket researches.

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An Over-Educated Grunt
8/2/2016 10:22:57 am

Germany actually had a severe brain drain problem during WW2. The Wunderwaffe were generally either developments of existing technology (jet fighters, rockets) that were around pre-war, bad ideas (Maus), or propaganda creations (death rays). There were exceptions (smart bombs) but they lost a lot of their smartest people to emigration before 1940.

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DaveR
8/2/2016 11:36:59 am

Many of the leading scientists were Jewish and saw the writing on the wall, no pun intended, and got out of Germany while they could, but there were still many German scientists and engineers who developed some amazing systems given the level of technology at the time. The Maus is interesting, it reminds me a little of the Komet, a novel idea, but didn't really change the balance of power.

E.P. Grondine
8/3/2016 10:42:36 am

The evolution in Hitler's thinking from its roots in German Theosophist variants to the "science" of "Eugenics" is not as well understood as it should be.

Two points: First, as WKC Guthrie pointed out, any religion that has a belief in re-incarntation is likely to be inherently racist and evil.

Second: SS men wrote "Belief in God" as their religion, which is how they referred to the Nazi theosophist beliefs.

Many more Germans than Himmler believed in that particular load of theosophist crap. It was the "state" "religion".

In my view, it is past time for the state of Peru to "borrow" the Parancas skulls and have some decent DNA tests done - but it is far more likely that instead they will simply enjoy the tourist dollars.

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STU
2/21/2019 08:22:54 am

Turns out, he was right! They're all living it up in Virginia's capital.

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