Nephilim Theorists Embrace Hoax Text as Proof Vatican Is Suppressing Lost Books Written by Giants
When last we left Nephilim theorists Steve Quayle and Tom Horn on the TruNews podcast, they were speculating on how Pres. Obama and Pope Francis, as agents of evil, were working with underground Antarctic Nazis to resurrect the bodies of Nephilim dredged up from the Marianas Trench, where God had commanded the angels to bind them for ten thousand years. As we pick up today, Quayle is explaining that a “demon” is a disembodied spirit of evil, while a fallen angel is one of the third of the host of heaven who followed Lucifer to hell. He says that demons and fallen angels rule the world in secret, and are the true cause of evil, which he seems to define as “liberals.”
Their claims are so bizarre that it becomes pointless to even list them. At one point, he claims that the CERN particle accelerator revealed “entities” at the end of its long tube, and that the Large Hadron Collider is actually a super-weapon to make “war on God” by shooting “God particles” to take out the deity. Horn believes that Native Americans were contacted by a Watcher in the guise of a reptilian god who taught witchcraft. Horn claims that the Dead Sea Scrolls describe the Watchers as being the same as the Reptilians from the books of David Icke. He seems to be referring to the so-called Testament of Amram (4Q543, 545-548), which states that one of the Watchers appeared “like a serpent …. like a viper.” Thus and therefore, any serpent or snake god must consequently be a Watcher and evil.
Horn is very upset that other Christians discount Native American accounts of evil serpent teachers because they feel Native Americans are outside the Biblical framework, but Horn believes that all the world’s peoples preserve distorted accounts of the Mosaic revelation and therefore serve as confirmation of the truth of Genesis—a claim as old as the Hellenistic scholars who tried to prove the primacy of the Torah, and most elaborately maintained by Jacob Bryant in his New System of the 1700s.
It’s rather strange, frankly, that self-satisfied super-Christians would base their faith on the Book of Enoch, pagan mythology, and apocryphal scrolls, but there you have it.
Consider this Q-and-A between the show’s host, Rick Wiles, and Steve Quayle, on the Watchers:
“Are they going to come up out onto the earth out of the volcanoes?” Wiles asked.
“Yeah, I have an answer for that, Rick: Absolutely!” Quayle replied, adding that Hawaiians sacrificed virgins to volcanoes to try to keep the Watchers inside their volcano prisons. Yes, we are all Scientologists now. I kid. Quayle simply believes that the Watchers are imprisoned under the Earth’s surface and therefore must rise up from beneath the ground. Horn adds that he believes that not only are the Watchers and/or Nephilim waiting beneath the surface, Jesus descended after the crucifixion to preach to them and warn them against their plans to rise again.
Quayle alleges that every country on Earth wants to get hold of the Nephilim’s secret technology, and he is worried that Obama has de-Christianized America in favor of worshiping Anubis and Baal in preparation for the return of the Nephilim and the Watchers. He says that evidence of this can be seen in the “disgusting” products of Hollywood. He cites Star Wars: The Force Awakens as evidence of this preparation for the return of the Nephilim because the villainous Snoke’s hologram appears as a giant relative to the other characters, making him a Nephilim.
Horn alleges that the ancestral Puebloans were “small” people, but that two Puebloans with six fingers on each hand and “the teeth of lions” in “two rows,” standing more than seven feet tall “have just been excavated in Colorado.” He says he’s trying to get permission to photograph these Nephilim corpses, but so far no one has been allowed to see them. He adds that Washington, D.C. is laid out according to the Hermetic-Nephilim principle of “as above, so below.” Quayle chimes in that the giants built all of Earth’s ancient wonders, which weirdly aligns his beliefs with Islamic folklore more than Christian. Indeed, Quayle denies that ancient people could have evolved from “Neanderthals” so he paradoxically concludes that ancient sites must be made by Nephilim, even though Nephilim didn’t come to the Earth until after Cain’s kin had already built the first cities. I find Nephilim theorizing very confusing.
Horn says that the Bible is so extraordinary that unless one is deeply knowledgeable about the Nephilim, one cannot understand either the Bible or Horn’s explication of it. He castigates the clergy for not adequately teaching laypeople about the Nephilim and their role in the imminent End Times. He also says that the Nephilim have magical powers because (a) Og the Giant had a big bed (Deut. 3:11), (b) the Babylonians used a ritual bed of the same size for their sex magic, and (c) God told Ezekiel that the Babylonians had powerful but evil magic. (I did not quite follow where that last point came from, but it seems to refer to Ezekiel 13:17-18.) Therefore, giants are magical.
Quayle chimes in that the Vatican is hiding the writings left behind by the giants, and he cites “The Lost Book of King Og,” an April Fool’s Day hoax on an obscure website, as a genuine text from the giants hidden by the Vatican. The hoax, which is not terribly convincing, purports to be a secret Vatican text but is based on a reference to the Liber de Ogia nomine gigante qui post diluvium cum dracone ab hereticis pugnasse perhibetur (“Book of Og(ias), Called a Giant, of Whom the Heretics Assert He Fought with a Dragon after the Flood”) among the apocrypha in the canonical and non-canonical book list of the Decretum Gelasianum, itself a sixth century forgery. (It isn’t clear that the hoaxer was aware of this primary source, which technically refers to the antediluvian Ogias, who had long since been conflated with the post-diluvian Og.) Needless to say, even if this text somehow survived, it would not represent the genuine work of the giant Og any more than Enoch wrote the Book of Enoch. Some believe the text derives from the Dead Sea Scrolls’ Book of Giants, directly or indirectly through the Manichean Book of Giants, of which it may even be a Latin translation of this text. In short, it isn’t what it claims to be.
Quayle, Horn, and Wiles all happily embraced the hoax text as proof that the Vatican is hiding the secret wisdom of the Nephilim. Horn asserts that all prophets, prophetic books, and seers around the world, including the Zohar and the Cherokee, agreed that 2016 is the year that the Nephilim will return through a star gate from a parallel universe. I would challenge him to name the specific prophecies. He suggests that CERN is trying to open the gate to a Satanic Nephilim dimension, and he speculates that the Nephilim have sent scientists a message that they aren’t ready to make public. But wait: I thought the Nephilim were going to come up out of the volcanoes from their subterranean prisons. Which is it?
Wiles finished the interview by repeating a news story that Hillary Clinton will reveal the truth about UFOs and extraterrestrials, and the unspoken conclusion is that the “truth” is that aliens are really Nephilim. A truer statement might be that Nephilim theories are Ancient Aliens for Evangelicals, kind of like the way Evangelicals have Christian “rock” music and poorly made Christian “movies”—bad knockoffs of secular culture.
4/24/2016 11:50:26 am
Sounds like these guys are the Christian version of whatdoesitmean.com. Or more conventionally Christian, anyway.
4/24/2016 01:30:40 pm
Maybe rather, "a different type of unconventionally Christian"?
4/24/2016 11:51:10 am
Scary Campfire Stories for Evangelicals?
4/24/2016 12:37:16 pm
Steve McCroskey, from "Airplane!": Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue/amphetamines/smoking/drinking.
4/24/2016 12:59:25 pm
"Quayle alleges that every country on Earth wants to get hold of the Nephilim’s secret technology, and he is worried that Obama has de-Christianized America in favor of worshiping Anubis and Baal in preparation for the return of the Nephilim and the Watchers."
4/24/2016 01:21:51 pm
Foolish me, I thought "The Lost Book of King Og" was a cookbook.
4/24/2016 01:40:22 pm
Jason, I read your blog often but don't comment much. However, a tip of the hat to you for having to wade through this manure so that we don't have to. You must have the patience,of a "Saint."
4/24/2016 04:19:35 pm
I think all they left out was the power of "Vril" from Bulwer-Lytton's "The Coming Race"
4/24/2016 08:54:50 pm
So the Large Hadron Collider is going to be loaded like a shotgun with Higgs Bosons and the Nephilim are going to shoot God with it? Will the Liberal Papist demons be pulling the trigger?
4/24/2016 09:20:07 pm
I am a little surprised that the Yellowstone Super Volcano wasn't brought up in regards to the Nephilim/Watcher uprising. The prospect of that cataclysm would seem to be appealing to these guys.
4/24/2016 10:43:35 pm
Kathleen, I'm sure no one of sound mind is even *remotely* interested in what these guys find appealing. You know, the ol' "You don't wanna know?"
4/24/2016 11:20:29 pm
I have a "fringey" friend who is always very concerned about my well being, and recently he has been bringing up Yellowstone a lot. Just thought it was on the current talking points.
4/25/2016 12:15:15 am
I imagine that might be due to a study done by the University of Utah, which found the magma chamber was 2.5 times bigger than previously thought. The Yellowstone Volcano Observatory issued the following statement three years ago in response:
4/25/2016 12:44:59 am
Now I only have to worry about the Mega-tsunami caused by the La Palma Island volcano splitting in two! Again, Nephilim rising up to destroy the world! :-)
4/25/2016 08:07:33 am
Awkwardly, the current buzz concept is "cascading crises – where one event triggers another" so all bets are off !
4/25/2016 06:51:15 pm
" the Large Hadron Collider is actually a super-weapon to make “war on God” by shooting “God particles” to take out the deity"
4/26/2016 09:38:04 am
What does God need with a starship?
4/25/2016 08:05:29 pm
I clicked into THE LOST BOOK OF KING OG from your link on the site, and it says it wasn't published on April Fools day. It says March 28. Its enough to question your dismissal of it all.
4/26/2016 03:45:52 am
> “Are they going to come up out onto the earth out of the volcanoes?”
4/27/2016 01:04:02 pm
I keep getting whiffs of Tim Powers and Charles Stross in these articles. Both have written fantasy fiction involving the revival of, or messing with, ancient gods. "Declare" by Powers; the short story "A Colder War" and novels "The Atrocity Archives" and "The Jennifer Morgue" by Stross sound like missing "primary sources" for these folks.
5/1/2016 12:13:34 am
4/27/2016 05:12:09 pm
Wow, this story would make one awful boardgame no one would want to buy..
5/1/2016 12:10:46 am
I'm not that concerned about cern ripping a hole in the space/time continuum and letting entities in. There's a Gordon Freeman there and he was sent a red crowbar.
11/11/2016 07:04:53 pm
I do believe that giants, called Nephilim dis exist. Most likely the offspring of the fallen angels and human women as described in the Bible. Had God wanted us to no more, he would have put it us His word. The most important thing in life is having a personal relationship with God. Any thing else is inconsequential.
9/23/2018 07:28:33 pm
That is actually not what is described in the Bible (Genesis 6) when read IN CONTEXT and with a correct translation from the original Hebrew.
11/29/2018 04:22:15 pm
My head is swimming ,how long has mankind with Gods help ,have we been trying to work this tangled gillnet,full of
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