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New Book Update: Finding Weird Things in Old FBI Files

9/8/2020

26 Comments

 
I’ve been making great progress on my new book, and I’ve nearly hit 40,000 words. The bigger challenge is trying to interest anyone in it. It’s rather rude, really, that literary agents can’t be bothered with even a pro-forma rejection but instead expect me to wait out response windows for silence to speak for them. But on the plus side, I’ve had an opportunity to explore some areas of historical research I hadn’t had the opportunity to look into before. Honestly, it was a little weird.
I knew that the FBI had collected files on homosexuals on the theory that they were “subversives” who were going to undermine America or get blackmailed into communism, but it’s quite a different thing to actually read them. Rock Hudson’s FBI file makes for such sad reading. Many books have made reference to it, quoting the best-know sentence from a 1965 memo, that while the FBI did not conduct an investigation into Hudson for subversion, “Los Angeles has advised that Hudson is suspected of having homosexual tendencies.” Not many go into detail about the broader context.
 
While it’s true that there had been no formal FBI investigation into Hudson before 1965, Hoover had collected a decade’s worth of rumors about Hudson’s sexuality, including allegations that he had participated in gay orgies. The copy of a memo provided by Hollywood’s vice squad in Hudson’s file is heavily redacted, but newspaper reports in 2000, following a summary of the unredacted document in a biography of Burt Lancaster, make clear that LAPD and the Office of Naval Intelligence raided the heavily secured home of the wealthy host of gay sex orgies who had hired more than 250 Marines (!) over the previous few years to provide sexual pleasure to guests and secretly photographed the celebrities in attendance, including Hudson and Lancaster. The Navy was involved because another guest was a fleet admiral. Whether the story was completely true mattered less than that officials believed it, as evidenced by a 1963 memo fretting about whether Burt Lancaster was too liberal on racial equality. The memo repeated claims about Lancaster’s participation in the 1960 orgy and several others besides.
 
From 1961 on, the Bureau also documented accounts from “confidential informants”—Rock Hudson’s former male lovers, who rushed to Hoover’s offices to share their accounts of having sex with Hudson. Despite officially concluding that such information wasn’t actionable, they nevertheless kept a file on Hudson’s homosexuality.
 
One of those confidential informants gave the Bureau information on a homosexual affair with Hudson in 1965, while the Bureau was already looking into him. On May 14, 1965, the Los Angeles Bureau asked Hoover personally for permission to interview Hudson since “no derogatory subversive references” could be found in FBI records. The exact reason they wanted to interview him was redacted, but it appears to have something to do with a request from an unnamed agency making inquiries from Washington. Over the past 40 years, no researcher has yet determined the reason for this.
 
By June, the Bureau concluded that “in view of the information that Hudson has homosexual tendencies, interview will be conducted by two mature experienced Special Agents.” The interview was approved on June 3 and a write-up forwarded to the unnamed agency that requested it. The FBI arrived on the Paramount lot on June 23 and interviewed Hudson on the set of a movie he was shooting. The “mature” special agents had quizzed Hudson about his short-lived marriage to his agent’s secretary and forced him to make a phone call to prove that he didn’t know where his ex-wife was and that her alimony checks were sent to her care of a Beverly Hills advertising agency. It would be interesting to know what agency was so interested, but it was redacted.  
 
It was all very strange, but the information retained interest for years to come. Both LBJ in 1966 and Nixon in 1972 requested copies of the FBI’s dirt on Rock Hudson, for reasons neither president’s staff ever explained. One of the memos to the White House has the words “sex offender” scrawled in an unnamed hand.
 
I found more amusing, however, a month-long flurry of memos in the FBI in 1971 arguing over whether a five-minute skit on the March 8 edition of Rowan and Martin’s Laugh-In (available on Amazon Prime) was funny or subversive for depicting J. Edgar Hoover as having bugged the White House and President Nixon as talking to Hoover through a microphone in a White House flower vase. The memos were prompted by a series of letters from conservatives angry that NBC had defamed Hoover and was damaging public trust in the FBI—“insidious propaganda” one called it. The FBI agents discussing the situation thought the sketch made no senses—being unable to understand it—and wrote that it “was not at all funny, was typically tasteless, and sometimes downright vicious” before crowing about the show’s imminent failure: “It is noted that ‘Laugh-In’ has been steadily declining in the television ratings and it is easy to understand why when you see the type of material they are attempting to foist on the viewing public in the guise of humor.”
 
Oh, and just for kicks, the guy who wrote that was the same FBI official who wrote about Burt Lancaster’s gay orgies, M. A. Porter.
 
Every time I hear about how we’re supposed to be excited by the latest news about why we should assume that the government’s latest UFO investigation is serious and needs to be treated with gravity, I will remember that the government wasted enormous time and resources on such serious questions as whether Rock Hudson was gay and whether Laugh-In was funny.


Note: The schedule function on my website is not working, so I am not able to schedule blog posts ahead of time. Blog posts will go up when I have time to post them until the problem is resolved.
26 Comments
Brian
9/8/2020 07:46:53 pm

Good grief, the amount of money thrown down the toilet in this country policing people's private lives could have raised every child from poverty and given every American free health care and a guaranteed income. May those damned Puritans who poisoned our land with their sexual repression and work "ethic" burn forever in the hell they believed in.

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Kent
9/9/2020 01:14:28 am

The money would be better spent on improving math education.

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Nick Danger
9/9/2020 09:33:58 am

Interesting, if unsolicited and pointless, opinion.

Kent
9/9/2020 03:44:42 pm

Hmm, only the title of your post came through.

Nick Danger
9/11/2020 10:20:07 am

Kent, that was pretty funny.

I give credit where credit is due, even to a troll.

max
9/10/2020 12:35:53 pm

Between ufo investigations, Hollywood subversives (undermining what exactly? it’s basically Orwellian), remote viewing, ESP and psychics, polygraphs and “follow your gut” criminal profiling... it’s a wonder American government agencies like the FBI managed to get anything right. They wasted so much time and money on absolute bs.

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Jim
9/8/2020 10:42:06 pm

"Very interesting,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but stupid"

(Arte Johnson)

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Nick Danger
9/9/2020 09:32:17 am

+1

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Doc Rock
9/8/2020 11:13:08 pm

Speaking of Marines, the 80s case of Clayton Lonetree, which involved heterosexual sex, gives some insight into why there was paranoia about the sexual activities of some people privy to top secret materials. Not surprising that long before that there was concern about the exploitation of homosexuals or heterosexuals for that matter. But then again, Rock, Hudson that is, wasn't a USMC embassy guard. More like another example of J Edgar silliness of the time.

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Hilda Hilpert
9/17/2020 11:04:41 am

Sure there was concern.It would be easy for the russians to blackmail these people. Or if it wasn't sex, they were in debt up to their eyeballs, or had something else the communists could exploit to their advantage.Heard that from my late father years ago.
Everyone knows about Jfk and his brother Bobby Kennedy and their affairs with Marilyn Monroe.. Some even say the Kennedys had her silenced because she was mad at both John and Bobby for playing her for a sucker, and she had a little red diary where she wrote down their pillow talk.So she was given something in a syringe by her shrink, and she died.Threaten to release this information to the public so they had to get rid of her. After revelations about her invovlement with the KennedysJoe Di Maggio stopped sending flowers to her grave. Wasn't for lack of money people. Hoover hated the Kennedys.
The studio PR departments were there to keep a lot of these goings on, out of the publics eye.They remembered all the stink over the Roscoe 'Fatty" Arbuckle- Virginia Rappe case of the 1920s, and quite few other scandals of that time.
I liked Laugh In, used to watch it. Besides, the skit probably told the truth.

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Larry storch
9/9/2020 03:07:37 am

I agree with them that Rowan and Martin’s Laugh-In “was not at all funny,” but an FBI investigation was hardly necessary to come to that conclusion.

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Henry
9/9/2020 02:36:34 pm

What a preposterous and meaningless book idea you are working on here. When you are gay that's what seems to be the most important thing to you so you look everywhere for it. Maybe a gay oriented publisher will go for it but that's about it. And they will sell dozens of copies to other gays.

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Bill the Splut
9/9/2020 06:19:03 pm

HENRY, I agree! I also refuse to read books that have not been published.

But I fully intend to buy your 500 page story about your supermodel girlfriend that no one's seen because she's in Canada.

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Nick Danger
9/10/2020 09:18:26 am

Disagree, Henry. I suspect the book will be insightful and entertaining, and am looking forward to reading it.

It's a shame you're hung up on "gay" - it must make your life more difficult than it has to be.

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Henry
9/10/2020 09:04:34 pm

Way to go Nick. That'll be one copy sold. Only 23 more to make a couple dozen. Publishers will jump at this great opportunity.

Bill the Splut
9/9/2020 05:56:44 pm

Laugh-In was my favorite show as a kid, until it very much wasn't. It went from the top of the ratings to the bottom in just a few years.

I've always wondered why. Then I came across a (long) Kliph Nesteroff post that explained it. It went from a TV show middle class liberals and hippies would watch to...well, just read the title:
"The Comedy Writer That Helped Elect Richard M. Nixon"
https://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2010/09/richard-nixons-laugh-in.html

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Tom Cat Martin
9/10/2020 04:51:17 pm

One of my fraternity Brothers' father was one of the agents responsible for following MLK. The stories would shock most people. A man who preached equality and not faithfulness to thy wife. J. Edgar called MLK "TomCat". If I remember correctly this was the code name used for him.

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Larry storch
9/10/2020 09:23:43 pm

There’s an allegation that the FBI bugged a hotel room and audio taped MLK as he “looked on, laughed and offered advice” to a pastor friend who raped a woman — there are FBI notes to this effect and supposedly the audio tape itself will be released to the public in 2027.

https://standpointmag.co.uk/issues/june-2019/the-troubling-legacy-of-martin-luther-king/

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Kent
9/11/2020 07:19:00 pm

No news here as you point out. No surprise either. Don't forget that most (I want to say "all" but I won't) religions start out as scams for sex. And bad behavior is part of human nature (which doesn't make it right) so the scam-for-sex stream never really dies out. I include BSA, Occupy Wall Street, and Antifa as religions.

Not Kent
9/10/2020 05:07:06 pm

"Laugh-In was my favorite show as a kid, until it very much wasn't. It went from the top of the ratings to the bottom in just a few years."

@BTS : Me, too! Weird thing is I have no memory of ever laughing at the material, or even "enjoying" it. I would just sit there riveted in front of the tube, staring. Hee Haw, on the other hand? Now, that was some funny shit. Looking back, I'm not sure why anyone would let a child watch that, but I remember laughing my little noggin off.

@Capt. J: Don't ever stop. Yes, I guarantee people will read straight down the rabbit hole of wherever you are going with this. Your great on a lot of stuff, but when you start with this sort of stuff you are working on? You glow!

Don't stop. I'll buy it! This is the straight up best shit.

Have a good end of the week.

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Not Kent
9/11/2020 01:34:59 am

Hi, Argonauts.

I'm ridiculous. Lets's just get that out of the way, right up front.

This Blog, what Capn' J does, and all of you, on the other hand? Are not. This is Important.

What we need to know? The russkies are coming again.

Let's do a better job of hosing, and monkey-wrenching their Horse-Shit this time, K?

You've had 4 + years of training.

Don't suck.

Much Love!

D.

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William Fitzgerald
9/13/2020 05:13:12 pm

A "fleet admiral" indeed. Do you know how many fleet admirals there were after 1960? Poor Old Salt. But, this was the cold war: nuclear annihilation was no joke. I can forgive a little paranoia, even if in hindsight it was a bit overboard.

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Kent
9/13/2020 09:42:51 pm

For those playing along at home, you may safely screw 1960. There hasn't been a Fleet Admiral since 1949.

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William Fitzgerald
9/14/2020 04:55:50 pm

The last Admiral to be promoted to Fleet Admiral was Bill Halsey in 1945. The last surviving Fleet Admiral was Chester Nimitz, who died in 1966; the other three died prior to 1960.

The rank Fleet Admiral (O-11), equivalent to General of the Army (Field Marshal in other nations' services), was a special rank created by Congress for senior Generals and Admirals during World War II. The rank was created in part due to the massive forces under their command and to give equivalency in rank with allied commanders under their direction who technically outranked them as field marshals (while also maintaining equivalency between the Army, Navy and Army Air Forces - predecessor to the Air Force).

Interestingly, the rank was considered permanent meaning those officers did not formally retire, but were on active duty while holding the rank, even if not in active service. This quirk was why General Eisenhower had to resign his commission when elected President and was reinstated by Congress only after leaving office in 1961.

Kent
9/14/2020 07:11:20 pm

Did some part of "you may safely screw" and no more Fleet Admirals after 1949 escape your massive intellect? The "active duty" thing was a scam to let them receive 2 star pay in retirement. Almost an insult.

Trace Hentz
9/13/2020 06:28:15 pm

Blackmail was and is a big motivator for the 17 spy agencies.

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