New Evidence Points to a 19th Century Origin for Kensington Runestone Alphabet

12/17/2022

The probable origin of the Kensington Runestone's runes has been found: The runic alphabet from the stone, with its distinctive "hooked X," was taught in a mid-19th century Swedish calligraphy school and the textbook its instructor published. It includes "Masonic" characters like those used by the Larsson brothers, whose runic writing had previously been the only other known runic use of the "hooked X."

Magnus Källström of the National Antiquities Office in Sweden published the results of his investigation last week. The key was in an 1876 textbook published by Eric Ström, an itinerant calligrapher (!):

Through a rave review that was published in Medelpads Allehanda on September 2 of the same year, it is also possible to form an idea of the content of this writing. In the part devoted to runic learning, Ström is said to have, among other things, reproduced a couple of runic alphabets, one of which, according to the anonymous article author, consisted of "some very strange letters and signs for numbers, which must have been imagined by some scoundrel." be "ancient writing"" This can hardly have been anything other than a reproduction of the Kensington runes and the pentadic numerals that appear on the Kensington Stone.

In addition, there must have been another alphabet, which according to the author of the article only consisted "of squares and parts of squares with one or more dots in them". This must of course have been a reproduction of the so-called Masonic cipher. It is now quite clear where the Larsson brothers in Dala-Floda got their runes from. They have of course attended one of Ström's writing schools or come across a copy of his Regulations . Thus, one of the direct connections to Dalarna also disappears, because we know that they were often out on trips.

Eric Ström was also a Templar--but not the kind you are thinking of. He was a Good Templar, a member of a temperance society. He had been teaching his various alphabets for a long time, after learning runes (or, rather, an eccentric local approximation of them) from a single person somewhere in the middle of northern Sweden. This practice sheet is from 1864:

According to Källström, the alphabets changed over time due to copying errors, so there is an older set from the middle 19th century and a younger set from the late 19th century. "A funny fact is also that the Kensington Stone belongs to this younger group! Since Edward Larsson uses the older variant as late as 1885, we have here an indication that the Kensington Stone is actually not older than that."

And so, it seems likely that this will put to bed the Kensington Runestone "mystery"--or it would if there weren't an industry devoted to exploiting it.

86 Comments

Guess What

12/17/2022 01:39:42 pm

You know what Wolter is going to say to this...

Jim

12/18/2022 09:27:49 pm

He's going to stick his fingers in his ears and go lalalalalalalalalalalalal,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Paul

12/17/2022 04:23:40 pm

This is only the most recent evidence turned up over the last decade or so, in Sweden, by a handful of researchers. But even though the evidence clearly points to a 19th century fabrication, there will still be the many who won’t and can’t let it go. Kind of like they are holding s*** in their hand and you tell them they are holding s*** in their hand but they will insist that they are holding diamonds.
The disconnect from reality is their reality. Scottie W is one of the most disconnected. This won’t change anything, if anything, the crazy will get worse.
Pull your head out of your arse, Scottie!

Harold Edwards

12/17/2022 05:56:37 pm

The handwriting used by Olof Ohman the "discoverer" of the Kensington Runestone in a 1879 letter matches the cursive letters used by Ström. Maybe a coincidence, but another of a plethora of coincidences that surround this fake artifact.

Jim

12/18/2022 11:30:56 am

Claims that Olof Ohman was a simple uneducated Swedish immigrant who couldn't recognize runes kind of fall flat with such obviously practiced handwriting.
Your image on twitter showing his handwriting and Eric Ström's lessons side by each pretty much tell the tale.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FkIERHDXEBoy27C?format=jpg&name=medium

Jim Pluimer link

1/6/2023 06:12:23 pm

Olof Ohman's handwriting, compared to the Larsson paper, shows quite a bit of variation. Why do we assume they are from 1885? They have never been positively dated. They could have been produced AFTER the date on the KRS. No one knows.

Another issue is "Runestone Island." What if Sam Olson and E. E. Aagerg were correct when they said the stone looked out of place. According to Wolter (yes, he deserves a bit of credit) the stone's closest geologic match is in East Central Minnesota. Considering 60% of all European runestones have been moved from their original location, the Kensington Stone could also have been moved.

Lastly, I don't buy the "Templar" role in the mission. It was a singular event in history, not to be repeated until the Age of Discovery.

Harold Edwards

12/24/2022 11:45:53 am

Actually the runes on the Larsson brothers’s letters are still the best fit for those on the Kensington Runestone. These letters also contain the same pentadic numerals used on the runestone. The hooked X rune used for the sound of the letter “a” has also been found in a building at the Ersk-Mats farm. These date to 1877 and this farm is about 25 miles northwest of Olof Ohman’s home town of Langby.

https://www.raa.se/in-english/how-the-runes-went-from-hassela-to-minnesota/

Jim

12/24/2022 04:21:28 pm

Off topic but, Harold, I see Gunn (Bob Voyles) has brought up his metal "medieval" artifact with you and immediately dropped the subject when you mentioned Metallurgical analysis.

I have pointed out to him repeatedly that the aluminum content of said article makes it modern but he keeps bringing it up again and again.
You see, he has had it tested but he didn't want to tell you that because he already knows it's modern and simply won't let it go.

Here is his test results:

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kbeIkm7T_ls/XSP4bk8gtMI/AAAAAAAAAHA/pSm00rxjAg0AhzHd3tVSme52k8qGgUctwCLcBGAs/s1600/DSCN4430.JPG

Harold Edwards

12/24/2022 06:21:53 pm

It is likely you both are wrong. The high oxygen content suggests much of the sample is not a metal. Most likely there is more than one substance present--say rusted iron with a clay coating. He needed to describe in detail and photograph the sample he sent to the lab as well as show from where he took it on the iron object. I think he found it with his metal detector, so the sample probably has a high percentage iron alloy. Proper analysis would include metallographic microscopy to examine the textures of the iron/steel. Most Medieval iron objects contain considerable amounts of slag trapped inside the metal since the metal was never completely melted.

Jim

12/26/2022 06:10:40 pm

Actually Mr. Voyles found it the Ohman way, in a hole made by a tree falling over.
I admit to having little to no expertise on this but given the aluminum makes up 9.37% by weight and the iron takes up 44.8% by weight, with the specific gravity of clayey soils being 2 to 2.8 and the specific gravity of iron being 7.8 would not the clay or whatever is holding the aluminum (oxides ?) have to be approaching or near the same volume as the iron in the sample ?
Seems odd to me that anyone would test a sample with that much clay clinging to it, does it not ? Also what sort of clay would it be to hold that much ,,, what,,,, non metallic aluminum oxides ?
Sorry to bother you with this but it I honestly don't understand how this does not show that it is a modern alloy.
Also I should have left a link to Gunn's blogpost where there is another test result shown, I simply didn't think it was nessisary.

Other Test Result :

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Lw2Z8iV2oF4/XSP4fXOK46I/AAAAAAAAAHE/my1XQICYf2Ip0gmV2iW4oFO33mhRFWgVwCLcBGAs/s1600/DSCN4431.JPG

Blog post :

https://americanrunestone.blogspot.com/2019/07/did-olof-ohman-make-iron-from-scratch.html

When I compare the two test results they make zero sense to me, hopefully they do to you, I guess that's why you get the big bucks !

Harold Edwards

12/27/2022 03:42:31 pm

There is too much carbon for a steel object. It could be from carbonate minerals or more likely, organic material such as wood adhering to the iron object.

We need more information about how the x-ray spectra was acquired. It is possible to set the electron bean to a point or to an assigned area on the image seen in the electron microscope. Is this spectra from a spot or a larger area? Furthermore the x-rays only come from the top micron or two below the surface, so the rest of the sample can be quite different in composition. Most of the non-iron elements are probably from soil adhering to the surface of the object. My guess is that this piece of iron is a rusted tooth broken from a modern back hoe bucket, but it is just a guess.

No big bucks here. Maybe I will get a cheese burger.

Jim

12/27/2022 06:26:08 pm

My analysis is a little simpler, the test results say it has aluminum in it, therefore it is modern, period, end of story.

Aluminum was the crown jewel in the art of Alchemy, it changed the world !
Aluminum was invented in approx. 1825, prior to this there was none.
Aluminum oxides are not metal.
Aluminum ores, bauxite, clay, alumina etc.are not metal and have no aluminum metal in them. (saying aluminum metal is redundant)
Unless the lab screwed up, saying "Aluminum" was present proves this machinery part was made sometime after the late 19teenth century when they finally found out how to produce commercial amounts of aluminum.

Kent

12/30/2022 09:10:37 pm

Jim.

I'd be interested in hearing how aluminum "ores" contain no aluminum.

Isn't that like water with no hydrogen?

Jim.

Is that biker still stalking Mr. Voyles? Asking for a friend who's super concerned.

Jim

1/1/2023 10:54:06 am

Did anyone know that most common interior walls in America today are clad in metal ?
Yes gypsum is a metal, weird huh ?

"Bauxite is an ore of aluminum.
It is the crystalline form of aluminum oxide.
After diamond it is the hardest known natural substance.
It's finer varieties are the gemstones, sapphire and ruby."

https://testbook.com/question-answer/which-of-the-following-metals-isnota-m--5f3a8cae26ea9d0d0b10fb9d

Weird huh ?
If anyone tells you that rubies are metal they are full of it.

" Rubies are aluminium oxide and non-metallic minerals."

https://www.vedantu.com/question-answer/which-out-of-these-are-classified-as-nonmetallic-class-11-social-science-cbse-5ffb4532ab2c156064fab7f0

Kent

1/4/2023 11:51:07 am

Jim.

Gypsum is most certainly not a metal, anymore than table salt, water, or titanium dioxide are metals. Haemoglobin? Also not a metal. You should get a piece of cardboard and write on it "Will make stuff up for beer". As the French would say "Quel hoseur!"

Jim.

Expected Better

12/18/2022 06:42:43 pm

The quoted section contains hearsay and an anonymous author. Not the level of scholarship I've come to expect from Jason Colavito.

'Ström is said to have'
Hearsay.

'according to the anonymous article author'

Who??? Graham Hancock? EVD? Nick Redfern? James Dean's Ghost?

Rock Knocker

12/24/2022 06:38:35 pm

The quoted section does not include any of Jason’s words, rather it is the translation of a portion of the report he references. (A holiday season blog hardly allows for a detailed translation and discussion of the work.) Jason is merely including the translated text as a sample of the referenced work - did you not see the link? Did you not click on it and use google to translate the report in order to check on its “scholarship”?

Your self-righteous condemnation of Jason’s scholarship simply highlights your own apparent lack of familiarity with how academic work is presented in Jason’s blogs. It isn’t a peer-reviewed paper but instead an informative help to those who don’t have the technical background in the various disciplines he discusses.

Why I Expected Better

12/31/2022 04:24:59 pm

@Tucker, Scott, and Nick

"The quoted section does not include any of Jason’s words"

No shit, Sherlock.

"Your self-righteous condemnation of Jason’s scholarship"

You are the one claiming Jason's work. I was making a comparison between the quoted section from the article and the level of scholarship I have come to expect from the tenacious researcher, Jason Colavito. The article doesn't measure up to his standards.

"Have you ever read a dewshpaper, I mean a newspaper?"

I know what you can do with one of the kendo sticks used to hold the paper together. Turned sideways of course.

"who should've noticed literally everything they complained about was from a block quote someone else"

Already addressed above, Sherlock.

Happy New Year!

Kent

1/2/2023 04:22:32 am

"I know what you can do with one of the kendo sticks used to hold the paper together. Turned sideways of course."

Nothing says "I've got a winning argument" like threatening anal rape. The first lesson they teach in any debate class.

You've outed yourself as a silly goose.

Kent

12/25/2022 12:05:10 pm

Why don't you get in the Dewshmobile and travel back to the 19th century? Take it up with the publisher?

Have you ever read a dewshpaper, I mean a newspaper? Ever notice how many articles don't have bylines? Is that a problem for you?

Take it up with Källstrom if anyone.

An Over-Educated Grunt

12/25/2022 05:22:12 pm

This being a comments section on the Internet, I DEFINITELY didn't expect better of a commenter who should've noticed literally everything they complained about was from a block quote someone else wrote. I would tell you who wrote it, but I believe determining that fact would be a useful test of your journalistic skills.

Harley W. Misson

12/18/2022 07:04:52 pm

All made for a terrific and fun rabbit hole, but you may have finally put the final nail in the coffin.....of a logical conclusion. Doesn't mean this will go away any time soon. I appreciate your posts.

David

12/19/2022 11:57:51 am

So the hooked X becomes the fucked X.

LeifFraNorden

12/19/2022 11:27:28 pm

As the Kensington Stone is long ago dead and buried, another nail in the coffin is superfluous. Instead, this discovery sheds light on an academic debate– whether rune writing was a 19th century reinvention or whether it somehow survived since the middle ages in the hinterlands of Sweden.

This latest discovery shows rune writing was taught formally and not localized– supporting the reinvention hypothesis. Such a controversy probably lies beyond the interests of the readers of this blog, but it is of critical interest to otherwise hard-to-entertain Scandinavians, who get tired of playing ‘Husker du’ throughout the long winter nights.

As most documents in the 19th century were handwritten, penmanship was quite important and part of an education that could allow a peasant’s son to enter a profession.

Our thanks to Mr. Colavito for giving us Norwegian bachelor farmers something to jaw about!

William Joseph James Johanson

12/20/2022 07:39:57 am

Ignatius Donnelly's utopian community Niniger City, MN included a Good Templars lodge. He was alive when the rune was discovered and never commented on it. That is strange in relation to his book "Ragnorok." I always suspected he was involved.

Dale Gribble

1/1/2023 09:52:38 am

"Niniger City"? Wow, Donnelly was a terrible speller! Yet he somehow foresaw the future importation of Somali "refugees" who travel back and forth between Minnesota and ... Somalia.

Kent

12/20/2022 12:17:09 pm

Wolter hasn't updated his website since January of this year (2022). It would be acting against interest to comment on this. Probably he's on some super-secret Templar business.

I know he still twits but I don't do social media.

Jim

12/22/2022 02:11:52 pm

Wolter responds on his blog, claiming the new find supports his version of events,,,, he is in the running for snake oil salesman of the year.

http://scottwolteranswers.blogspot.com/2022/12/new-evidence-in-sweden-further.html?m=1

Kent

12/25/2022 01:34:23 am

Wasn't there when I posted. Thank you for that, well done.

I note that Wolter says "Futhark" like it's KRS specific.

And in his Mad Hatter universe, the guy who wrote the book is "a member of a Templar order" (ZERO supporting evidence). As a member of a Templar order I can tell you authoritatively that Scott Wolter is a dewsh.

LeifFraNorden

12/22/2022 06:11:48 pm

As the Kensington Stone is long ago dead and buried, another nail in the coffin is superfluous. Instead, this discovery sheds light on an academic debate– whether rune writing was a 19th century reinvention or whether it somehow survived since the middle ages in the hinterlands of Sweden.

This latest discovery shows rune writing was taught formally and not localized– supporting the reinvention hypothesis. Such a controversy probably lies beyond the interests of the readers of this blog, but it is of critical interest to otherwise hard-to-entertain Scandinavians, who get tired telling Sven and Ole jokes or playing ‘Husker du’ throughout the long winter nights. (On this matter we speak from personal experience.)

As most documents in the 19th century were handwritten, penmanship was quite important and part of an education that could allow a peasant’s son to enter a profession.

Our thanks to Mr. Colavito for giving us Norwegian bachelor farmers something to jaw about!

blah-blah-blah

12/23/2022 06:16:17 am

https://www.dailygrail.com/2022/12/ancient-apocalypse-and-the-ugly-battle-between-alternative-and-mainstream-archaeology/

Jim

12/26/2022 12:01:02 pm

Scott Wolter wrongly accuses the Roman Catholic Church of burning Icelandic people for the use of witchcraft runes. Said runes were used for the of casting of " Fretrúnir" or "Farting spells".

Wolter's version:
" In 1625, the Roman Catholic Church began burning people who used witchcraft runes." Considered heretical by the Church, these documents were hidden from Church authorities only to surface again now for the world to see."

http://scottwolteranswers.blogspot.com/2015/12/

While Scotty blames the Roman Catholic Church it seems the accuser was a Lutheran Pastor and that control of Iceland had already reformed with the ousting of the Roman Catholics in favor of the Lutherans.
Unfortunately it appears the men were innocent after all, as the farting continued apace, even after finding their burnt remains and burning them again. The Pastor had also been awarded all the mens belongings.
With the explosive farts continuing the poor Pastor tried again, this time accusing the wronged men's daughter/sister, With a new trial the lass was found innocent and countersued winning all the pastor"s belongings.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirkjub%C3%B3l_witch_trial

Anyone wishing to cast a farting spell on Wolter can find the spell here (the spell includes a hooked X for added irony):

https://twitter.com/GanferHaarFinn/status/992032329416798209

Jim

12/29/2022 07:09:23 pm

New blog post for Wolter :

" Startling New Discovery by Hebrew Scholar Confirms the Hooked X is a Symbol for Deity/God "

I believe I may have got the first kick at the can on his comments section :
" How did the space aliens fit into this ? "

Jim

12/30/2022 11:19:58 am

With Scott Wolter's New Blog-post comes an all new version of the Templars religious structure, apparently the Templars were Jewish and followed the Jewish religious practices.
These Jewish Templars didn't follow regular Jewish religion, but a new and improved Wolter version of Judasism. You see if one says the name of the Jewish God backwards it comes out as He-She, thus proving that the Jewish god was not a single male god but a "Monotheistic Dualism" type god. You can call it Contradictionism if you like.

"This instantly brings to mind the symbolism of the upward and downward peaks/triangles of the Seal of Solomon and the Hooked X symbol. They mean the same thing and both contain the sacred secret of the male/female nature of Deity/God. This makes perfect sense since the same Hebrew people were were involved with both sacred symbols representing a carefully hidden ideology. That Monotheistic Dualism ideology began in Egypt and was secretly passed down through the Hebrew priesthood into Jerusalem and forward into the present."

http://scottwolteranswers.blogspot.com/2022/12/startling-new-discovery-by-hebrew.html#comment-form

This allows for both God and the Goddess,,,,, oh how clever.
For those keeping score of Wolter's various versions of Templar Gods, off hand I can list :

1 - All Templars were Goddess worshippers.
2 - The rank and file Templars were Christians with the higher level ones being Goddess Worshippers.
3 - All Templars were Christians with the Goddess sliding over to fill the vacant Holy Spirit position in the Christian Holy Trinity.
4 - All Templars followed an unknown Jewish Dualism religion where dualism is no longer heresy and this religion was kept in strict secrecy throughout millenniums.

Wolters brain has been rerfried with with his newfound absurd connection between the hooked x and the cursive 19teenth century Icelandic Hebrew letter representing A.
The Hebrew A letter changed naturally over the course of time and is not a Templar hooked x.
See how it changed here,, take note of the most recent German versions. (top letter on the second chart) :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cursive_Hebrew#Historical_forms

Kent

12/31/2022 06:21:16 pm

Wolter should learn Swedish before he starts commenting on Hebrew. What a fucking idiot. Say the word backwards? Didn't Led Zeppelin have a problem with that? Turn me on, dead man.

In other news, the Hate Blog's own Anthony Warren, aka Prevaricating Prevaricator recently sent Wolter a post that even our Scott couldn't make sense of. I'm not calling either one a cum guzzling road whore, but you be the judge.

Kent

12/31/2022 10:55:12 pm

Jim.

Actually Jim, dualism has never been heretical in Judaism. Neither has Lucifer worship.

Jim.

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Paying Attention

1/1/2023 03:12:17 pm

[The first coded word in the KRS inscription refers to the Baptistry. 8 GON Ter. Octagon Tower. The Baptistry was already in existence when the KRS was carved in 1362. The use of the Anglo-Saxon foot in the construction of the Baptistry dates it prior to 1305. Cartography pushes
the construction date back even further. The same works of cartography you declared as "dubious" on Facebook.

A lot of people are going to have to rethink or completely drop their pet theories. Especially quit looking for 10 dead men. The word is Ogdoad. This is a Pythagorean Christian Gnostic document. Likely the reason behind the single use of the crossed L Rune. Appears to be a combination of the E and L forming single use of the name EL. This would make the word SkELar. Which is either scaffold builders or scalers as in someone who scales fish.

"We made camp with two scalers" makes sense with the further reference to working fish.

If you're open to legitimate further discussion on the KRS inscription, a completely new blog post is warranted. The inscription itself proves the authenticity.]

Nothing from Wolter. No new post regarding translation of inscription.

[Both NRS and KRS are Christian Documents. Probably best described as Pythagorean Christian Gnosticism. The people responsible were Resurrecting the Ogdoad to usher in a New Golden Age.

The KRS also clearly states, HAWET which has been taken as "have eyes". Hawet is Hectae the Goddess of Resurrection. She has likely become one of the three Marys from Christianity.]

Nothing but silence from Wolter.

[Hello Scott,

Not quite. You are pointing out the name of the Bythos/Depth amongst other names used for the Word. What you call the "Hooked X" is the EIGHTH Emanation from the Word/Bythos. This is Ecclesia/Church/Ogdoad.

The emanation takes place in the following manner: Depth-and-Silence gives birth to Mind-and-Truth (Nous and Aletheia), who gives birth to Word-and-Life (Logos and Zoë), who gives birth to Man-and-Church (Anthropos and Ecclesia)

This is on full display around the Dendera Zodiac. The 4 Aeons and 4 Aeonic Pairs or syzygies.

The Ogdoad is the Eighth Sphere of Fixed Stars ruled over by the Goddess.
This gets much deeper than I care to go on your blog. Most of this stuff will be covered in my upcoming paper on the Gnostic Runes of the Narragansett Runestone.

The spalled symbol is the Bythos. The second symbol of Sig Rune is actually Sighe AKA Silence. Due to the use of Zoe, this can be traced to a specific branch of Valentinian Gnosticism.]

Judging by his response, Wolter doesn't understand his own line of crap. Wolter is attempting to adjust the narrative in his favor. He still doesn't get it. No one talked about the Ogdoad until AFTER 1945 when the Nag Hamadi Library was dug up. Wolter obviously never noticed this himself and is trying to incorporate these ideas for his Templar story. Like many people commenting on this blog, he will never admit he's wrong.

Jason Colavito and Wolter's alleged acolytes have torn apart every bit of Wolter's crap. The only thing Wolter has been right about is the age of the KRS. If he's been right about anything he's either lucked into it or lifted it from another source. He says himself that someone else proved the authenticity of the Stone.

Jim

1/3/2023 01:46:00 am

I am speaking to Wolter's version of dualism, think holy trinity but with two, not real dualism.

Does anyone know why Wolter kicked Jesus out of the Holy Trinity and made it dualist ? He followed the hooked x / Holy Trinity back to the Hebrews then dumped Jesus and went back to dualism. It can't be because of anything Jesus did because he wasn't even born yet,,, what gives ?

Kent

1/4/2023 11:59:06 am

Jim.

So "two" is not "real" dualism???

Jim. You really do like making stuff up. Jim.

Jim

1/4/2023 01:41:30 pm

Dummy up you fool. Real dualism involves conflicting entities such as God and the Devil, not 2 co-operating entities such as Wolter's nonsense.
Grow up, and quit nitpicking with your nonsense. I will never respond to you again, please allow me the same courtesy.

Kent

1/4/2023 05:02:51 pm

Jim.

I look forward to your next response.

Jim.

Jim. You don't get to define terms. "Real" dualism? My ass.
How about male-female? Shekinah. Jim.

Jim

1/4/2023 08:53:51 pm

Hello Paying Attention, I disagree with your statements.
By the by have you read this about duelism ? It is quite enlightening.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/dualism-religion

Here is a small sampling :

"In religion, dualism means the belief in two supreme opposed powers or gods, or sets of divine or demonic beings, that caused the world to exist."

Paying Attention

1/4/2023 11:39:28 pm

Hi Jim,

Why are you and the object of your obsession, Wolter talking about dualism? Do you not understand Christian Gnosticism, Jim? Do you think the Christianity of today is the same as it was in the Middle ages, Jim? How did the alleged hoaxer know about Gnostic Christian concepts that were still buried in Egypt until 1945, Jim? Wolter doesn't get it either, Jim. Wolter lucked into being right about this concept tracing back to Egypt, Jim. Not the concept he professes though. Gnosticism and the Ogdoad. Not Dualism, Jim.

Kent

1/5/2023 12:47:50 pm

Jim.

That's like, their opinion, man.

"the division of something conceptually into two opposed or contrasted aspects, or the state of being so divided."

- m-w.com

"In general, the idea is that, for some particular domain, there are two fundamental kinds or categories of things or principles."

- Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy

From the biography of the Britannica's author, Ugo Bianchi, who fathered four different known children:

"Most influential was his definition of the category of dualism as a widespread phenomenon with ethnic roots all over the world. Dualism means the doctrine of the two principles that, coeternal or not, cause the existence of that which exists or seems to exist in the world."

- https://www.encyclopedia.com/environment/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/bianchi-ugo

Fortunately or not most people have forgotten Brittanica's historical reputation for racism. "It must be the last encyclopaedia in the tradition of Diderot which assumes that information can be made memorable only when it is slightly coloured by prejudice." - Sir Kenneth Clark

Jim.

Joe Scales

1/5/2023 01:16:53 pm

"I will never respond to you again, please allow me the same courtesy."

It appears that Jim is quoting me without proper attribution. Worth waiting a couple years for though.

Jim

1/5/2023 03:14:12 pm

Your not Paying Attention are you ? If you are, I would ask you to explain " Ogdoad " in detail.

Reading Comprehension Lesson

1/6/2023 07:01:51 am

JIM
1/5/2023 03:14:12 pm

[Your not Paying Attention are you ? If you are, I would ask you to explain " Ogdoad " in detail.]

Jim,

You're, a contraction of the two words "you" and "are" would have been the appropriate word in you're desperate attempt to get me to Google for you, Jim. Did you not read the quoted sections from Wolter's blog, Jim? Do you comprehend and retain the information you've read, Jim?

"What you call the "Hooked X" is the EIGHTH Emanation from the Word/Bythos. This is Ecclesia/Church/Ogdoad."

This says the "Hooked X" is Ogdoad, Church, or Ecclesia. This concept is further explained.

[The emanation takes place in the following manner: Depth-and-Silence gives birth to Mind-and-Truth (Nous and Aletheia), who gives birth to Word-and-Life (Logos and Zoë), who gives birth to Man-and-Church (Anthropos and Ecclesia)]

Now just use Google or use any internet search engine for any concept unfamiliar to you, Jim. Just because I'm paying attention doesn't mean I'm going to do the work for you, Jim. I would start with one of the words from the Kensington Runestone inscription. Ogdoad. Wikipedia offers multiple choice. Both Christian and Egyptian Ogdoad.

Kent

1/7/2023 12:02:03 am

Oh Anthony Warren, the name by which you are best known. You are a lying simpering sniveling kicked to the curb bint. You are simply paraiddlying as always, taking orders from your neighbor Sam's cellphone as you go on your mail route in the 1970s summer.

"Ogdoad" doesn't exist on the KRS. Maybe you followed the Grateful Ogdoad a bit too long. I'm suggesting that you are deranged. Deranged, don't know Swedish, don't know Egyptian either hieroglyphic or demotic.

Riddle me this Day Ward: how can ogdoad be the Eighth _anything_ when it is a _set_ of eight things?

And your Nag Hammadi assertion is bullshit and I don't mind calling it a lie. Maspero talked about it (ogdoad) in at least one 19th century publication. Of course it would be nice to hear your citation from the Nag Hammadi texts. We all know why that's not going to happen.

Your father called, he wants his seed back. So late in life he becomes economical?

KPO.

Jim

1/7/2023 11:27:38 am

Paying attention, your question : "Why are you and the object of your obsession, Wolter talking about dualism? ",,,can be answered thusly :

Wolters version of dualism is not what would be regarded as "Religious" dualism, Wolter and his new disciple Kent are conflating religious dualism with other sorts of dualism such as philosophical dualism and dualism in psychology etc. They have put them all in the same pot and then take out whatever parts they need to prove their point, you see. It's rather dishonest, but there you go, that is how Kent and Wolter operate.

A good example of their style of dualism would be JoeKent, one person presenting itself as two people, with Joe now being resurrected to agree with Kent.

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/Dualism+in+philosophy+and+religion

" du·al·ism (do͞o′ə-lĭz′əm, dyo͞o′-)
n.
1. The condition of being double; duality.
2. Philosophy The view that the world consists of or is explicable as two fundamental entities, such as mind and matter.
3. Psychology The view that mental and physical properties are fundamentally different and that neither can be explained fully in terms of the other.
4. Theology
a. The concept that the world is ruled by the antagonistic forces of good and evil.
b. The concept that humans have two basic natures, the physical and the spiritual. "

Kent

1/7/2023 12:45:36 pm

Jim.

"A good example of their style of dualism would be JoeKent, one person presenting itself as two people, with Joe now being resurrected to agree with Kent."

So speakitateth the Lord High Commissioner of Dualism, your one stop shop for final answers. A little weak on metallurgy and affidavits though. Jim.

Remember I'm ALSO the biker stalking Bob Voyles. It's really unthinkable to you that two people would take you to task?

The real world bats last.

Jim.

For anyone wanting to look at the history (and it has much in common with sausage) I have done the onerous heavy lifting and will later be taking to my fainting couch:

https://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/review-of-ancient-aliens-s14e14-the-nuclear-agenda

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22same+courtesy.%22+site%3Ajasoncolavito.com

Paying Attention

1/7/2023 03:47:12 pm

You're missing the point, Jim. Wolter is speaking about the wrong concept. Apparently trying to salvage his penis/vagina/womb speculation in the face of his disciples pointing out Christian gnosticism. Most folks aren't familiar with gnosticism and think dualism has something to do with Hamilton and Burr. Lol

Have pity on Joe/Kent. His Chia Pet ran away.

Jim

1/7/2023 06:03:34 pm

Another thing, Paying attention, that both Kent and Wolter do when they have lost an argument is to try to change the topic, often with gratuitous ad hominem attacks.

Kent link

1/8/2023 09:49:25 am

Jim.

"Another thing, Paying attention, that both Kent and Wolter do when they have lost an argument is to try to change the topic, often with gratuitous ad hominem attacks."

Isn't that itself a new topic? Strange how it's always the other person or as theorists would say The Other changing the topic?

Would it be ad hominem to point out that Jim is now seeking an unholily alliance with liar extraordinaire Anthony Warren becausely that's apparentlily the bestly he can do?

When your mom has to raid the local mental hospitals to find you playmates it's time to reevaluate your life choices.

I guess that is ad hominemly. Whom the shoe fits, let him wear it.

The Jim move here would be to accuse Jim and Anthony Warren DBA Paying Attention of being the same person like in the Perry Mason episode The Case of the Deadly Double. Which one would be Joyce Reed and which one Helen Martel I suppose would depend on which one is allergic to fur.

Some dictionary on the internet and probablily in paper too and Jim. Jim. will tell you that "thusly" is a word. I categoricalily deny that and am typing slowlily so the mental patients in the audience (Anthony Warren, cough cough) can understand it.

So, applying the infallible message board logic, Patrick Shekleton, The Navigator, remains Anthony Warren's alpha although Anthony often wanders away and hunts on his own. The profile suggests an attic full of only left shoes, doll heads and milk bottle nipples. Anthony calls them "books". (I note here that they never caught the Masonic Lodge arsonist from a couple years back) Jim and Anthony Warren/Displaying Patience/Paying Attention are each other's alters, it's hard to tell which is Joyce and which is Helen.

I think that brings us up to the current date.

Jim.

Jim

1/8/2023 10:00:08 am

"You're missing the point, Jim." Actually I am not missing the point,you are. Harold's hard evidence concerning the calcite would appear to be completely unassailable. If anyone out there can disprove it I would like to see them do it, Wolter certainly won't ! The KRS has been undeniably proven to be a hoax. Be it Wolter's nonsense or your nonsense, it is all a Templar tempest in a teapot, it's all a pile of rubbish.
Why do you think Wolter runs like a scared chicken every time Harold shows up ? Why is he too chicken to debate Harold when he promised to debate anybody ?
You have been sucked into Wolter's vortex of inanities and you can't or won't even try find your way out by examining the real evidence.

Joe Scales

1/9/2023 11:09:51 am

"...with Joe now being resurrected to agree with Kent."

When did I do that Jim? Or should I say, When did I do that? Jim.

Jim

12/31/2022 10:34:16 am

I have good news and bad news for you today.
First the bad news, Scott Wolter has informed me that his faction has lost yet another priceless irreplaceable historical document. This time parts of the history rewriting "Cremona Document" !!

"What’s amazing to me is we had the second part of the now lost document a year before Rabbi Sameth’s book came to my attention just a couple weeks ago. I feel this goes a long way to confirming this second part appears to be accurate and legitimate."

http://scottwolteranswers.blogspot.com/2022/12/startling-new-discovery-by-hebrew.html#comment-form

I know you are thinking that we will never be able to disprove Scotts crapola without the Cremona document and you would normally be right. However by a strange turn of events that even I find amazing, I, myself have found it and it is in my possession !!!!!
I was driving down the I5 minding my own business,,,, well, I will spare you the boring details but know that myself and my team of crackerjack Catholic Woman's League Historical investigators are vetting the document as we speak ! And yes we are using forensics.
Stay tuned.

Soft Booboo link

12/31/2022 10:35:10 am

Wolter published my submission but edited out the part about how he was a football major who played geology and The Expert Witness was found by a court to not know his agates.

It's rare but he's such a smug stupid idiot that I actively dislike him.

As the Catholic Church I mean the Smithsonian I mean both because they're the same would say, he's "invincibly ignorant". Sadly he looks like he's in pretty good health. With joss maybe he'll pull a James Dean. Or a Rock Hudson. Or a Sal Mineo.

Please Enlighten the Group

1/12/2023 08:08:31 pm

[Soft BoobooDecember 30, 2022 at 2:27 AM
Scott,

You should and probably do know that Anthony "Greb" posts often on the hate blog. Mostly lies about his personal history and claims that his cellphone camera can find things that everyone else missed. You treat him and Shekleton with far more respect than they deserve.

It's always entertaining to see you challenge your correspondents to throw down. Super imaginary, bro.

The idea that anything that argues against the KSR being authentic actually argues FOR it being authentic is as Bill O'Reilly used to say "Ludacriss". I've read Winchell's book (have you?) and you are way overselling his conclusions]

Please tell us more about this "Hate Blog" you speak of?

"It's rare but he's such a smug stupid idiot that I actively dislike him."

Pot to Kettle.

Please tell us what Anthony has lied about?

Please be specific.

Soft Booboo (kent)

1/13/2023 09:54:21 pm

"Please tell us what Anthony has lied about?

Please be specific."

His five state championships.
Being invited to a college party at age 16.
College professors sharing secret wisdom with him in stairwells. Is that what they're calling it these days?
Reading two to five books a day every day for forty-two years (He's admitted that was a lie).
Reading Hancock when he was five years old and Hancock had not yet started writing books.

Pretty much everything he's ever said here. He's a one-stop shop.

I'm using the name I posted on Wolter's blog with so you and others can follow allow along. - Kent

Death Bescumbs Her

1/15/2023 09:26:28 pm

"Scott, this no doubt will shock you, but my name is not "Harold". Might be hard for you to believe, but there is more than just one person out there who think's you're at best an idiot and at worst a fraud."

L. Evans

Pretty sure L. Evans passed away years ago. You should probably quit speaking for her.

Jim

1/2/2023 11:19:53 am

Wolter absconds with Christianity's Holy Trinity, Awards it to either the Templars or the Hebrews,,, or perhaps both ?
Commits blasphemy to both Christianity and Hebrew religions.

http://scottwolteranswers.blogspot.com/2022/12/startling-new-discovery-by-hebrew.html?m=1

" I also argued the Hooked X represented what Christianity cryptically calls the "Holy Trinity." Their definition described as the "Father, son, and the Holy Spirit" without making clear what the Holy Spirit is supposed to be. It seems to me they're intentionally veiling the obvious missing piece, the mother, thus completing the Holy Trinity aspect of God which is what I believe the Hooked X symbolically represents'

https://twitter.com/Godmother_Masha/status/1608684597948354560

"It is heresy to the Catholic Church, but their dogma was made up anyway. The dual-gendered God predates Christianity and the idea of balance and equality in the Godhead makes a lot more sense."

Religious right wing Trumpian conspiristy theorist type queiries Wolter about it. Wolter doubles down.
Right wing guy gets 352 presumibly mainly Right wing views to comment.
Is Scott picking fights with the wrong People ?

https://twitter.com/TAGIII/status/1608690135952158721

Check out this fellows twitter feed :

https://twitter.com/TAGIII

Harold Edwards

1/2/2023 02:39:31 pm

There is a documentary series on Netflix called Murder Among the Mormons. It is about the document forger Mark Hofmann who is considered the most prolific and successful document forger known. He was finally caught when he committed two murders to coverup his activities.

There are parallels between Hofmann and Olof Ohman, the forger of the Kensington Runestone. Hofmann confessed but Ohman did not. However, Ohman’s partner for carving the runestone, John Gran did confess. Gran’s confession is supported by the text on the stone. The text fits the Swedish dialect of Gran, not Ohman. See: Larsson, M.G. and Staffan Fridell, 2021 Människorna bakom Kensingtonstenen och dess runor (The people behind the Kensington Stone and its runes). Swedish Dialects and Folk Traditions, pp. 81–87.

Aside from money, the prime motive for Hofmann was duping delight. Hofmann derived secret pleasure in tricking the Mormon Church, historians, and skilled document examiners including the F.B.I. Likewise Ohman’s motive was duping delight. He had told a friend in 1890 he wanted to “bother the brains of the learned.” Ohman’s and Gran’s intent was to play a practical joke on their neighbors, much like sewing the head of a mouse on a frog. After the initial surprise everyone would realize they had been had and laugh, and then go off and have a beer. However Ohman’s neighbors never caught on. He had completely fooled them. Ohman then presented his creation to experts in early 1899 who after examining his copy of the inscription and the stone itself declared it a hoax. When the stone was returned to Ohman he continued to claim to his neighbors he had innocently dug it up and kept up this front for the rest of his life. His neighbors and many of their decedents are still fooled to this day.

Archaeological hoaxes follow a forger-fabulist paradigm. The most successful hoaxes such as fine art frauds have two different people playing these roles. The forger is typically a nerd with poor people skills and is best kept in the background. On the other hand the fabulist has the people skills to sell a mouse-frog to the suckers as a biological miracle. The fabulist is a con artist and psychopath who can work with any material. In fact some are genuine artifacts that he simply mis-attributes, such as the Newport Tower. A further advantage for the fabulist is he is distanced from the forgery so that if the forger confesses at some point, the fabulist can claim he too was fooled by the rascal. One of the problems Hofmann had which led to his being caught was he played both roles. Ohman had no such problem since the fabulist in his case was Hjalmar Holand who took the stone in 1907. Holand was able to amplify his runestone narrative with mis-attributed axes and fire steels from the fur trade period as well as mythical “mooring stones.” The local suckers to this day still believe in his “mouse-frog” and will try to scratch your eyes out if you inform them of the realities of biology.

Kent

1/4/2023 12:14:31 pm

"their decedents"

You funny.

Jim

1/4/2023 12:19:44 pm

Nice, why does no one ever get to see Wolter's evidences ?
Where are his peer reviews, not to be seen in 22 years ?
I looked for his Prince Henry Journals and there the were,,,,Gone !
The infamous Amazon journal that was to rewrite history,, where is it ?
How about the Cremona doc. part deux, that Wolter just told his new Rabbi corroborated the Rabbi's new book, but, oops, they just lost it.
What about the Giant remains his partner, Roman sword guy and Treasure Force Commander, and he found, where are the giants ?
Where is the secretive Government Agent Holden, whose name even Wolter does not know but Wolter successfully vetted anyhoo. Where is he ? did the aliens kidnap him ? Is he a figment of Wolters fertile imagination, a Hobo looking for free meals, where oh where is Holden ?
How about the Templar cave in Montana, Wolter had exact coordinates, did the Smithsonian steal it ?
And whatever happened to the biotite, so necessary to Wolters hard science dating of the KRS ? Beyond Wolter finding it, no one else has has been able to locate it. From Professor Paul Weiblem's report he definitively stated that in 29 passes of the electron microscope on the thin slice from the core sample he could find no trace of biotite, where oh where did it go ?
Wolter relies heavily on his Hero Winchell's report that said it was there, but Winchell erred,as he so often did, Wolter didn't bother to adequately confirm Winchell's report, he just assumed the biotite was there. That's where all the trouble started. Wolter couldn't find biotite on the surface, he assumed the biotite was still present in the interior of the KRS,,,, but we know it wasn't !
Viola,,, it must have weathered off the surface proving the stone was carved more than 200 years ago, but it didn't, THERE NEVER WAS ANY BIOTITE !

Kent

1/16/2023 04:15:25 pm

Because it's

Jim.

I don't trust the analysis. You keep harping on it as if it's something. I admit you're as qualified as Wolter but so is everyone on Skid Row. And you can't spell "analysis" without

Jim.

Let it go forth at this time and from this place as President Bartlett would say that "Viola" is the calling card of the superlame. Funny how they like to self-identify. Or as the old Bluesman said "They tellin' on theyself".

Jim.

Harold Edwards

1/4/2023 12:52:34 pm

There is another striking parallel between Hofmann and Olof Ohman. Both men got the idea for committing document forgery from fictional accounts. In Hofmann’s case he had read Irving Walllace’s novel “The Word” about the forging of a unknown Gospel. In Ohman’s case he read a short story in the Swedish language newspaper, Svenska Amerikanska Posten published on August 8, 1898 called “En Runsten”–“A Runestone” about a farmer in Sweden forging a runestone. The Kensington Runestone was first shown to Ohman’s neighbors in August of 1898 and later in September of 1898. Evidently both men lacked the imagination to even conceive of convincing forgeries, and that lack of imagination may be why they resorted to forging work instead of creating original works to express themselves.

LeifFraNorden

1/6/2023 01:41:36 am

The relevant parts of John Gran’s confession are recorded in a taped conversation involving his daughter, son, and grandson made in 1967. [1] They recall conversations with their father (and grandfather) from the late 1920s. Gran of course recalled events on the 1890s.

Memory over this length of time is not entirely reliable, and the evidence on the tape is hearsay. Even so it damning. While the details may be reconstructed rather than remembered accurately, the gist– that Gran and Olof Ohman carved the stone together– would not get lost in translation.

On the other hand Ohman’s purported motive– to ‘bother the brains of the learned’– is less certain. This was not documented until 50 years after the fact [2]. And as Mr. Edwards notes, the affair may have began as a practical joke on the neighbors. When it worked there, Ohman and friends decided to take their act to a bigger stage.

At this point, the question is why Ohman never confessed. It was probably because the joke succeeded too well. There is no reason to conclude that Hjalmar Holand was anything but a true believer. (He didn't come along until 1907.) Ohman knew he would hurt Holand if he fessed up, and Ohman would lose face with his family and community. (Gran’s confession did not become public until 1976.)

This reminds us of the Lonnie Zamora incident. [3] Zamora was a police officer who spent a lot of time harassing students at the New Mexico Institute of Technology. He also had a reputation for not being very intelligent. The students arranged a practical joke for his benefit, which made national news the following day as one of the best UFO sightings, complete with aliens. Stirling Colgate, NYIT president, quickly located the perpetrators and told them to keep quiet.

[1]
‘The case of the Gran tapes: further evidence on the rune stone riddle’.
Minnesota historical society. http://collections.mnhs.org/MNHistoryMagazine/articles/45/v45i04p152-156.pdf

[2]
David A. Sprunger.
Mystery & Obsession: J. A. Holvik and the Kensington Runestone.
Minnesota historical society.
http://collections.mnhs.org/MNHistoryMagazine/articles/57/v57i03p140-154.pdf

[3]
Robert Scheaffer.
Famous Socorro ‘UFO Landing’ a Student Prank?
Skeptical Inquirer March/April 2010.
https://skepticalinquirer.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/29/2010/03/p25.pdf

Jim

1/4/2023 01:19:47 pm

Fabulist Hjalmar Holland, I like it !

One key piece of evidence that the true believers always bring up is the affidavits confirming the details of the tree the ruinstone was found with. Do they stand up to scrutiny ? In a word,, a big fat no.
Ask any police detective how often eyewitness statements align so exactly as the ones from these affidavits. Five different eyewitness reports will give you 5 different versions, many with conflicting details, his coat was brown, his coat was green, there were 6 of them, there were 7 of them, even with the events fresh in their minds.
Said affidavits were taken 10 years removed from the finding of the ruinstone !
How could they be sooooo similar, with often even identical sentences and phrases ? I will tell you.
Holland wrote most of them. He inserted his heavily biased self into the whole investigation, even volunteering to and writing reports for an investigation that he was not a part of.
Holland was the translator for all the simple immigrants who couldn't possibly write in English.
Why did Edward Ohman need a translator ? He was born raised and went to school in America, he was 19.
What happened to the original affidavits ? When Olof, Edward Ohman and Nils Flaten's original affidavits got Woltered (lost) how did Holland find copies? when were they written, why were there so many inconsistencies ?

"In 1909 Olof Ohman, his son Edward, and their
neighbor, Nils Flaten, had each sworn affidavits of their
memories of the day the stone was found. Although the
original affidavits were lost, Holvik studied copies pro-
vided by Holand and discovered disturbing inconsis -
tencies. First, the affidavits had been sworn before a
notary public whose license was not properly filed until
16 months later."

http://collections.mnhs.org/MNHistoryMagazine/articles/57/v57i03p140-154.pdf

C'mon people,,,, dummy up.

Harold Edwards

1/4/2023 04:36:31 pm

The affidavits were collected by Dr. Knut Hoegh during his investigation of the Kensington Runestone for the Norwegian Society of Minneapolis in 1909. The originals were lost but the first record of them I found was in the Minneapolis Tribune on August 25, 1909. They were shown in public at the Minnesota State Fair in September and later in a public meeting of the Executive Council of the Minnesota Historical Society on December 13, 1909. Holand gave copies of them to the Society a few weeks later. These are now in the archives. Ohman admitted to signing his to Winchell in 1910 and to Andrew Fossum in 1911.

Holvik was wrong about the notary's commission. The notary R.J. Rasmusson was the cashier of the Kensington Bank in 1909, and his notary commission was published in the Journal of the Senate (Minnesota) on April 22, 1909. The affidavits were sworn to on July 20, 1909.

Jim

1/4/2023 03:09:46 pm

The word aluminum by and of itself precludes the notion that non metallic substances such as aluminum oxides are present and describes only the metal aluminum.

True or false ?

Kent

1/4/2023 05:14:55 pm

Jim.

False. Because under normal conditions in Earth's atmosphere, standard temperature and pressure every piece of aluminum is covered with aluminum oxide. Oops.

As often happens the actual world as it exists seems hellbent on disagreeing with you. Is the world the problem?

Jim.

Harold Edwards

1/4/2023 04:42:55 pm

You are also conflating the affidavits signed for Hoegh in 1909 with those signed for Holand in 1910. The latter were on the dimensions of the aspen tree. These were published in Winchell's report. Winchell knew of the 1909 affidavits but ignored them. His fact pattern about the discovery is different from that in the 1909 affidavits as to the month, who was present, the place it was discovered on or near Ohman's farm, and where the runestone was displayed after its discovery.

Kent

1/5/2023 06:26:05 pm

Winchell is also much less strident and emphatic on the question of authenticity than Wolter. Wolter insists that he has actually read Winchell's book, but I have and I think Wolter has not. It wouldn't be the first time he lied. Don't buy agates from him and don't dive with him. Also don't hire him. As to his wife's OnlyFans page, you're on your own.

E,P, Grondine

1/7/2023 03:27:24 pm

If I remember correctly, the Kensijgton characters had toolmarks from a half inch chisel.

Kent

1/9/2023 06:19:22 am

Objected to as not best evidence, incompetent, irrelevant and immaterial.

"Sustained. The clerk will strike 'dewshy' from the record."

Does Too

1/9/2023 08:13:43 pm

KENT
1/7/2023 12:02:03 am

{"Ogdoad" doesn't exist on the KRS.}

Yes, it does. Line EIGHT. "OG:DOD"

kent

1/11/2023 11:15:48 am

Yes Anthony, I saw that. You are mental, I must say. So let's tally up the score so far. Anthony being mental, that ship has sailed. Perfectly good Swedish words that make sense in context are actually a misspelling of a Greek word used to represent an Egyptian concept. THAT'S your position, mental?

"In Egyptian mythology, the Ogdoad (Ancient Greek: ὀγδοάς "the Eightfold"; Ancient Egyptian: ḫmnyw, a plural nisba of ḫmnw "eight") were eight primordial deities worshiped in Hermopolis."

Which raises the question "So fucking what?"

When my dog Blue licks his nasty doodads is he licking his OG, his ":", or his DOD? Or his Ogdoad? Because they're all the same word, right? "It's all stars, man!" Pretty sure he doesn't speak Egyptian but I can't guarantee what language your neighbor Sam's dog speaks. If he had gone to school in medieval Sweden he would of course have learned Greek.

"OG:DOD" <-> "DOG DO" I think we've cracked it.

Harold Edwards

1/11/2023 12:50:09 pm

Henrik Williams transliterates the runes to

F1] 8 : göter : ok : 22 : norrmen : po :
F2] ...o : opdagelsefard : fro :
F3] winland : of : west : wi :
F4] hade : läger : wed : 2 : skelar : en :
F5] dags : rise : norr : fro : deno : sten :
F6] wi : war : ok : fiske : en : dagh : äptir :
F7] wi : kom : hem : fan : 10 : man : röde :
F8} af : blod : og : ded : AVM :
F9] fräelse : af : illu :
S1] här : 10 : mans : we : hawet : at : se :
S2] äptir : wore : skip : 14 : dagh : rise :
S3] from : deno : öh : ahr : 1362 :

If the "e" in "ded" is changed to "o" to make ";og:dod:" then all the other "e"s have to be changed to "o"'s which in turn will change the translation of the text into English.

Kent

1/11/2023 09:59:20 pm

Harold, good as far as it goes, but I think we can all agree that Anthony Warren knows more about Swedish than any Swedish person due to his 42 year streak of reading 2 to 5 books a day, every day, and his 5 state championships. Also he paid to have a poem published, so no fool he!

There can be no doubt about his commitment, involuntary though it might be.

Remember, Williams learned the language as a child. What use is a child at this level of scholarship? Anthony Warren clearly laid out his I would say revolutionary understanding on Wolter's site:

"You are pointing out the name of the Bythos/Depth amongst other names used for the Word. What you call the "Hooked X" is the EIGHTH Emanation from the Word/Bythos. This is Ecclesia/Church/Ogdoad.

The emanation takes place in the following manner: Depth-and-Silence gives birth to Mind-and-Truth (Nous and Aletheia), who gives birth to Word-and-Life (Logos and Zoë), who gives birth to Man-and-Church (Anthropos and Ecclesia)

This is on full display around the Dendera Zodiac. The 4 Aeons and 4 Aeonic Pairs or syzygies.

The Ogdoad is the Eighth Sphere of Fixed Stars ruled over by the Goddess.

This gets much deeper than I care to go on your blog. Most of this stuff will be covered in my upcoming paper on the Gnostic Runes of the Narragansett Runestone."

I think this demonstrates something that reasonable people can all agree on.

Kent

1/22/2023 05:20:55 pm

Jeepers Christ Anthony the mental just doesn't stop with you.

Ogdoad

Og do ad

Three syllables

OG:DOD

Two syllables

The map is not the territory but the words don't map.

Good Humor (ḫmnyw)

Three syllables. Coincidence? I think not.

Jim

1/22/2023 01:07:48 pm

Knowing Scott Wolter never has had an original thought in his head and always "borrows" other people's work to portray as his own research, I always wondered where all the Egyptian Pharaoh nonsense came from.
Apparently it was from Ralph Ellis author and U tube (Brave New History) guy.
He will interview Wolter here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B75IGPXv38

Here is a list of his books:

https://www.thriftbooks.com/a/ralph-ellis/411563/

In his book "Jesus: Last of the Pharaohs" Ellis conflates Flavius Josephus, born 37 AD with the Biblical "Saul" or King Saul who reigned more than 1000 yrs before Josephus was born.

" Saul, the inventor of Christianity, was actually Josephus Flavius, a well-known historian. Jesus was the governor of Tiberias and owned a castle there; and he may have died during the siege of Jerusalem in about AD70, rather than AD 33."

https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/jesus-last-of-the-pharoahs_ralph-ellis/755128/item/#edition=5363381&idiq=5155688

Nutbars Unite.

Kent

1/24/2023 01:47:59 pm

Jim.

Don't know where you're gettin' this King Saul thing. Saul was Paul, the antisex homophobe who flipped out, changed his name and basically invented Christianity which is of course an abomination. I could recommend a book for you to read and unlike Man And Impact In The Americas it's widely available free of charge. Interlibrary loan my ass.

D'ya ever get tired of the real actual world constantly batting you down for your wrongness?

Jim.

Jim

1/22/2023 01:44:41 pm

More on Ralph Ellis:

Ralph Ellis | World's Biggest Fraud:

"And why are there no Gay Pride demonstrations through London, protesting against the brutality of ISIS against Gays ?? Ah yes, the otherwise vociferous Gay community is already stepping into the road and tugging it's forelock before Islam. They have become dhimmis - serfs to their Muslim masters - giving respect and receiving brutality and serfdom in return."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcyO2kbcZxE

At least he is not a gay bashing racist,,,,, oh wait,,,,,,,

Edessa Has Nothing to do with Jesus: Ralph Ellis Debunked - Joseph Atwill & James Valliant :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_GkrKn-tfw

False History: Jesus, King of Edessa :

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwi6mMTw4tv8AhXwkokEHXdVAqAQFnoECCUQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.librarything.com%2Ftopic%2F254040&usg=AOvVaw12jfwV1G8Oe_9bdB7ph70C

Copyrighted Material Stolen by Ralph Ellis :

http://steve.rogueleaf.com/ralph-ellis/

Ralph Ellis Swings and Misses Again–More on Jesus as King ... :

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwi6mMTw4tv8AhXwkokEHXdVAqAQFnoECCgQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fgilgamesh42.wordpress.com%2F2013%2F04%2F15%2Fralph-ellis-swings-and-misses-again-more-on-jesus-as-king-arthur-and-other-oddities%2F&usg=AOvVaw0Sg-d_GSSSoSPAyUxSoF4t

Ralph Ellis is an airline pilot by profession,,,,,

https://atlantipedia.ie/samples/

Although Ancient Origins has nice things to say about him.

Kent

1/24/2023 06:52:54 pm

And your mom, who took it like a champ, definitely in the union, spoke highly of you. When she could. Jim.

It's frightening how few hours it takes to be a commercial airline pilot. Although the standard is slightly higher than being allowed to post here.

"Gypsum is a metal." GFY. Jim.