More than three years after Yale University announced that it would put the infamous Vinland Map through a through a series of high-tech tests to determine once and for all whether the allegedly medieval depiction of Greenland and the Canadian coast was in fact a fake, the results are in. It is, in fact, a fake, as has long been suspected. New analysis of the ink used to draw the map found that, as earlier researchers has concluded, the ink is modern. It dates no earlier than the 1920s. While the identity of the forger is not known, and the exact time of forgery hasn't been determined, the new evidence should (but probably cannot) put to rest claims that the map is the oldest cartographic depiction of part of North America in European history. Since the 1960s, when Yale acquired the map and published a scholarly monograph about it, the Vinland Map has been a regular feature in books about ancient "mysteries" and, in the last thirty years, it has been a staple of cable TV conspiracy shows. A conference in 1966 and repeated research since then produced strong arguments and evidence that the map was a fake. The new research offers still more scientific evidence that the map is a modern hoax. Yale's news release about the news research laid out the key findings: The analysis revealed that a titanium compound used in inks first produced in the 1920s pervades the map’s lines and text.
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Phippsburg Phil
9/3/2021 11:16:57 pm
Now you've done it. Activated the Batshit Crazy Signal. Only a matter of hours until someone points out that the researchers failed to photograph the map with a cell phone.
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Popsicle Pete
9/4/2021 10:00:43 pm
Here ya go:
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Patrick Shekleton
9/12/2021 07:31:35 pm
Punxsutawney Phil is still thriving at his home in Punxsutawney, Pennsylvania, making predictions once a year. And, yes, the guy who used to live in Phippsburg, Maine is still finding historical evidence of the Pre-Colonial Newport Tower. The latest is on the 1504 Ostrich Egg Globe attributed by scholars to Leonardo da Vinci (plus an illustration on the c.1504-1506) Hunt-Lenox Globe):
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Anglo Saxon Mappa Mundi Cotton World Map
9/13/2021 11:48:33 pm
Oh, thanks for the link to the Powerpoint. Shekleton.
Brian
9/4/2021 09:18:47 am
Even if the profit-driven loons don't just ignore this and quietly stop mentioning it, in a few years someone who's never heard this will come across mention of the map online or in an old book and start the whole cycle again. In 2080 - presuming anything like the internet or human civilization still exists - a future Jason (or you yourself if there's still medical care!) will be still be debunking this nonsense.
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Anthony G.
9/4/2021 10:48:16 am
The authenticity of the Vinland Map is irrelevant by over 400 years. It's NOT the first Map to depict North America. That title currently goes to the 1025-1050 Anglo Saxon Mappa Mundi Cotton World Map held by the British Library. There are a whole host of other medieval maps depicting North America. Someone in Iceland drew out North America, the Gulf of Mexico and South America in the 1200's. In 1489 Henricus Martellus Germanus combined the landforms of North and South America with Asia!
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Kent
9/4/2021 08:41:08 pm
Of course there's a much more well-founded fact-based school of thought that says none of that is true.
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Patrick Shekleton
9/12/2021 07:41:12 pm
The Dragon's Tail extension on the southernmost part Asia has been argued by scholars to represent the southern part of the South American continent, so Anthony's general statement is mostly correct. Read some more, Kent, you will benefit from it.
Anthony G.
9/13/2021 08:20:23 pm
I was talking about "The Icelandic corpus c. 1225-1250 Viðey maps illustrated sections of both North and South America. It also illustrated the Newport Tower at its correct latitude, using both actual and offset-longitude placements." This predates Henricus Martellus Germanus's continental combination by almost 300 years.
Kent
9/13/2021 10:17:44 pm
In your paraiddlying universe "argued by scholars" means "said by me and/or Anthony". Posting on "academia".edu does not make it scholarship. I'd like to say "Patrick you're better than this" but I try to keep it 100.
Kent
9/14/2021 02:01:32 am
Oh Anthony, you delusional denizen of the day ward.
Anglo Saxon Mappa Mundi Cotton World Map
9/5/2021 11:29:28 am
Anglo Saxon Mappa Mundi Cotton World Map
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Joseph Craven
9/5/2021 03:27:12 pm
Have... umm... have you actually seen images of the Mappa Mundi or Henricus Martellus Germanus' map? Because it feels like you haven't if you think the Americas are somehow in them.
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Anthony G.
9/11/2021 03:43:47 am
https://www.academia.edu/50939839/c_1489_Henricus_Martellus_Germanus_IT_FI0100_Plutei_29_25_ff_66v_67r_World_Map_Cartographic_Evidence_of_the_Pre_Columbian_Newport_Tower
Jim
9/11/2021 07:18:11 pm
Anthony, www.academia.edu may allow you and Patrick to post your nonsense on their site, but anyone with half a brain can see you two are using your own nonsense as collaborating evidence.
Kent
9/11/2021 09:51:09 pm
He most certainly did not.
Patrick Shekleton
9/12/2021 07:45:50 pm
Anthony works image snippets that I send him on the maps that you mentioned, so the answer to your rhetorical question is 'Yes, Anthony has seen quite a few images of both the Cotton Map and the various Martellus maps. And he has looked at them and analyzed them in a manner that you have not.
Kent
9/26/2021 11:40:06 am
And John Hinckley interacted with President Reagan in a way I have not.
E.P. Grondine
9/7/2021 10:01:35 am
Hi Anthony -
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9/7/2021 11:29:09 am
The Cottonian world map depicts an island version of Thule, but that would represent Iceland, which had been occupied by Irish monks before the Norse ancestors of the modern population arrived.
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You might want to actually look at the Cotton Mappa Mundi before making claims like that.
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Anthony G.
9/11/2021 03:47:32 am
https://www.academia.edu/44455549/Was_North_America_Illustrated_on_the_c_1025_1050_Cotton_World_Map
Yes, the back of the document is where they always stash the good stuff. See for example the back of this post. 9/4/2021 11:10:10 am
Note how the article fails to mention the guy who actually proved beyond doubt, years ago, that the Vinland Map was a fake: Scottish amateur John Paul Floyd
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Patrick Shekleton
9/12/2021 07:48:07 pm
David, I agree with you that John Paul Floyd put together a good argument regarding discrepancies on the Vinland Map.
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Kent
9/13/2021 10:22:30 pm
That's weak Anthony Warren level delusional tea. Floyd proved beyond a doubt that the Vinland Map is a fake. 9/5/2021 10:15:37 am
The sad fact is like most forgeries it wasn't just an attempt to make money but to show up how easy it is to trick so-called experts. It is why nearly ten percent of the collections in museums (mostly Art and Archaeology) are fakes. When it comes to old male it is more often the old Rorshack test conundrum. People see what they want and forget mistakes of speculations get copied uncritically as infinitum. One scholar of my acquaintance turns up a new map every week where he spied an illustration of the Newport Tower predating Colonial times. When I pointed out they also showed Wind Gods and Dragons he got rather miffed.
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9/5/2021 01:54:59 pm
Of course, people will continue to believe nonsense. Amazes me some still believe we never landed on the moon on the first attempt even when we repeated it again and again.
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Rock Knocker
9/5/2021 06:55:19 pm
Strange how the British Library this to say about the Anglo-Saxon Mappa Mundi map:
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Patrick Shekleton
9/12/2021 08:01:41 pm
"Great cabal" and ""secret" world history" and "chosen few" are code words for disguised literary inventions. Of course these phrases capture the attention of some folks - which is the intended effect. I don't subscribe to those terms.
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E.P. Grondine
9/6/2021 01:37:05 pm
Thanks for he news on the Vlinland Map
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Chris
9/6/2021 02:03:04 pm
Real or not, Snorri Karlsrfnison did exist and was born in Vinland
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Roge
9/26/2021 12:43:26 am
Aluland, Vinland and markland =AVM
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E.P. Grondine
9/8/2021 10:21:12 am
Hi Jason -
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Anthony G.
9/11/2021 03:58:29 am
https://www.academia.edu/49030956/c_1100_1199_Sawley_Mappa_Mundi_Cartographic_Evidence_of_the_Pre_Columbian_Newport_Tower
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Kent
9/13/2021 10:50:01 pm
Headectomy is the only proven treatment though there have been some successes with chiroamputation as a stopgap therapy.
Jim
9/13/2021 11:03:35 pm
Horse dewormer ?
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Tom A. Hawk
9/20/2021 02:48:36 pm
KENT
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Kent
9/22/2021 10:53:10 am
Uh, Romans walked to China so given that the circumference of the Earth was common knowledge by then, if they had known about North America they wouldn't have confused it with Asia.
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Jim
10/10/2021 09:53:45 am
Wolter calls the team of scientists at Yale who proved (once again) that the map is a fake a " Bunch of jack wagons!"
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