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New Roswell "Alien" Metal Under Investigation By UFO Believers

11/19/2019

30 Comments

 
First, the good news: I am so close to finishing Legends of the Pyramids that I want to take the rest of the day to close the books on that project, at least until after the holidays, when the publisher will send me the typeset page proofs to proofread and index. Therefore, I will keep the rest of this entry short. Therefore, our second topic for the day: The hunt for “alien” metal is spreading. It was bad enough that To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science convinced the U.S. Army to help them analyze “Art’s Parts,” but now there is a new piece of alleged Roswell wreckage in the care of a new team of researchers.
Silicon Valley CEO and physicist Deep Prasad of ReactiveQ recently made headlines because he planned to turn his attention to using high tech methods to hunt UFOs. Now he is partnering with physicist Kevin Knuth and crop circle enthusiast Colin Andrews to study what Andrews claims to be “exotic” metal recovered from Roswell, New Mexico. On Facebook, Andrews claims that the metal came from the Roswell crash and that he has eyewitness testimony to support his claims.  Since the Roswell crash never happened, this is prima facie not wreckage from a flying saucer.
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The photo of "alien" metal Colin Andrews shared on Facebook.
I am interested, however, in the reasons that the “metamaterials” keep getting tied back to the fictitious Roswell crash. After all, TTSA’s set of “Art’s Parts” were originally claimed in the Art Bell era to be Roswell wreckage until TTSA scrubbed that identifier from them in a bid for credibility. I guess it must come down to the fact that you need to have a crashed saucer to justify having the metal; otherwise, you are reduced to arguing that space aliens can cross the gulfs of space in craft so rickety that they drop parts like a rusty Yugo.

????

Ive seen further reports and tests done on them and still didnt/show as much confidence in my claims as you do. Without doing any of the science or seeing it for yourself..all you did was put out an opinion. And like assholes, everyone has one. ;)

— Deep Prasad (@Deepneuron) November 15, 2019
For what it’s worth, Prasad lashed out at me on Twitter the other day claiming that I am too “confident” that the supposed alien metals under analysis by UFO groups are not parts of flying saucers. He alleged that he is not half so confident that they are UFO wreckage as I am that they are not. I’m not sure that is quite the insult he thinks it is. First, it means that he’s been promoting claims he admits to lacking the evidence to support. Second, it means that for being a STEM wunderkind, he is rusty on the scientific method. The null hypothesis is the assumption until evidence proves otherwise. Besides, I have never claimed to have proof of anything, only to say that the advocates of “alien” metal claims have, up until now, produced no evidence to support their insinuations.
 
Finally, I wanted to briefly mention that the new presidential administration of Jeanine Añez in Bolivia has begun a crackdown on supporters of the former president, Evo Morales, by wrapping itself in the mantle of conservative Christianity. This weekend, a speaker at a pro-government rally called indigenous Bolivians and traditional Bolivian culture “demons of the witchery” and “Satans.” Bolivia is home to Tiwanaku and Puma Punku, among the most famous pre-Columbian sites in South America, and, of course, places cable TV has called the work of aliens and American Nephilim hunters have associated with demon-human hybrids.
30 Comments
Jr. Time Lord
11/19/2019 08:48:59 am

"Since the Roswell crash never happened, this is prima facie not wreckage from a flying saucer."

I have to disagree on this point. Something did crash. Likely a craft of Nazi design well above the secrecy clearances of those involved. Not aliens or weather balloon.

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But
11/19/2019 09:11:13 am

But you can't show anything except wishful thinking

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Jr. Time Lord
11/19/2019 09:46:19 am

Newspaper clippings and common sense. Let the paranoids believe in aliens, or admit to harboring Nazis. I'm sure there were other governments seeking these former Nazis too. Best hidden in plain sight buried under a load of bull.

I have been fortunate enough to witness some of these craft perform. I'm sure these craft got their start with Nazis captured by American Forces after WWII. Von Braun wasn't the only "scientist" brought here.

Paranoids say aliens
Gubment says weather balloon
You say nothing
I suggest Ultra secret craft with no fear of getting Striebered.


BUT
11/19/2019 09:57:22 am

Irving Newton
etc

Kent
11/19/2019 01:56:58 pm

Did Professor Diet Smith demo Nazi tech to you between psychology classes?

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/30499/the-truth-is-the-military-has-been-researching-anti-gravity-for-nearly-70-years

Iskanander
11/19/2019 08:53:43 pm

"Paranoids say aliens
Gubment says weather balloon
You say nothing
I suggest Ultra secret craft with no fear of getting Striebered."

You don't have any fear of being "Streibered", it the "Ultra secret craft" have no fear of being "Streibered"?

What does that mean, to be "Streibered"?

Larry storch
11/19/2019 09:34:03 pm

My guess is that he’s trying to refer to Whitley Strieber, a formerly semi-successful pulp horror fiction author who tried to jumpstart his failing career by writing an asinine account of his own “abduction” by aliens. The crackpot absurdly declared the book to be a work of non-fiction and after it flopped miserably and his writing career was left in a shambles, he blamed the whole debacle on some big government conspiracy to silence him because he exposed the “truth.” I guess the boob has since become a folk hero of sorts among the dingbat crowd of woo believers.

Jr. Time Lord
11/19/2019 09:38:12 pm

"What does that mean, to be 'Streibered'?"

Receiving a free colonoscopy performed by aliens.

Iskanander
11/19/2019 09:40:51 pm

"The crackpot absurdly declared the book to be a work of non-fiction and after it flopped miserably and his writing career was left in a shambles, he blamed the whole debacle on some big government conspiracy to silence him because he exposed the “truth.”

Yah. Legends should take note re: his work with DeLonge and tits&ass.

So, I got all that.

I'm really wondering what Jr. T-Lord means by being "Streibered".

😊

Iskanander
11/19/2019 09:44:33 pm

"Receiving a free colonoscopy performed by aliens."

Ah, that's awfully funny.

No, you seem to be referring to some greater, over-arching butt-fucking related to participating in being a "UFOlogist". Like being "Dotied".

What are you about with this "Streibered" thing?

Smart ass.

Iskanander
11/19/2019 09:47:30 pm

Dear, Larry.

"Levenda", not 'Legends'.

😊

Iskanander
11/20/2019 12:19:00 am

Dear, Jr. T-Lord.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tOFjNjQWsN4

?

Yeah
11/19/2019 01:39:16 pm

We all believe in the weather balloon story, laughing out loud.

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Staton Freakman
11/19/2019 02:16:27 pm

Yes, it was a great find, that Roswell story.
It provided a lifetime meal ticket.
And even bought a swimming pool.

Hugo Stigliz
11/19/2019 02:10:41 pm

The Nazi craft was operating out of a secret base in the same cave in the Grand Canyon that was occupied by ancient Egyptians. Scott wolter would have found it if the government didnt stop him.

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Believe First, Prove Later
11/19/2019 09:35:49 am

http://www.openminds.tv/dr-kevin-knuth-ufos-science-and-relativistic-interstellar-travel-march-26-2019/42250

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Newspaper articles
11/19/2019 10:34:44 am

Someone's done a good job here about Roswell reports from 1947

https://ufologie.patrickgross.org/rw/press.htm

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Looks Familiar
11/19/2019 10:49:41 am

Weather radar target crash in Ohio, 1947
Sunday Dispatch, Columbus, Ohio, USA, page 1, July 6, 1947

https://ufologie.patrickgross.org/rw/p/columbussundaydispatch6jul1947.htm

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Paul
11/19/2019 10:55:55 am

Looks like a crushed beer can, maybe Schlitz.

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Jim
11/19/2019 11:51:19 am

This might be a evidence of advanced alien recycling technology.
Someone should be alerted that they are here for the bauxite.

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Josephus
11/20/2019 12:46:24 am

Schlitz indeed; you are most perceptive. The "foaming" additive enables alien hybrid drinkers to distract innocent human brood mares from noticing the morphing slit pupils of their eyes by reddening them. "Another one for the road" is what they hiss before downing the final can and crushing it menacingly in their scaly hand and disappearing through a dimensional portal identified only by the mysterious glyph "MEN". Look for neph DNA!

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Doc Rock
11/20/2019 05:23:33 pm

Kind of looks like someone put a bunch of pup tent stakes in a pile and pounded them with a brick.

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Jim
11/19/2019 11:15:48 am

" He alleged that he is not half so confident that they are UFO wreckage as I am that they are not."

Lol, He has more brains in his whole head than you do in your little finger.

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TONY S.
11/19/2019 06:44:20 pm

Fringers have problems with the null hypothesis., They either don’t seem to understand it, or simply can’t accept it because it puts the burden of proof on them to provide actual evidence for their claims.

I’m not surprised these UFO pushing frauds are clinging so desperately to these hunks of metal garbage. They’re the few actual physical relics that have entered the culture that they can point to to and try to claim, “Look!! Finally real proof!”

It doesn’t matter to the faithful that they were debunked by scientific methods long ago. They’re going to hold on tight like a drowning person clutching to a deflating life preserver in the middle of the ocean.

I guess they’re desperate enough to think that debunked physical relics are better than having to rely solely on fuzzy photos and people’s personal bullshit stories.

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MORE EVIDENCE OF FLYING SAUCERS FROM 1947
11/19/2019 07:27:16 pm

http://www.roswellproof.com/Circleville.html

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Kent
11/19/2019 07:33:00 pm

You'll be warbling a different tune to our new insect overlords when the lab "hits it with enough teraherz"!

You're right of course. Rejecting the null hypothesis out of hand is based on "You can't prove it's NOT alien/Nazi/Templar technology!"

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Jr. Time Lord
11/21/2019 10:33:20 am

The alien hoopla started when Kenneth Arnold likely witnessed a squadron of these planes.

https://images.app.goo.gl/JLgChNttwEHrzT7y9


The flying wing design would have looked "alien" to any observer unaware of the captured German design. I would even bet money that one, possibly two of these craft crashing, is the likely impetus for the Roswell mythos. I just wonder what government officials told the families of the deceased test pilots. Training accident, cerebral hemorrhage, friendly fire, suicide, accidental drowning...

You are free to believe in aliens, or like some, nothing at all. I choose to believe in the human ingenuity, and rationalize accordingly. It was much easier to allow people to believe in aliens than admit to harboring Nazi war criminals.



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T. Swift
11/21/2019 01:50:23 pm

Just don't believe that in the street and startle the horses.

Since this event that never happened would literally been a training accident, calling it a training accident wouldn't be a problem.

But consider the source.

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Kent
11/21/2019 05:38:11 pm

You're awfully free with that term "war criminals", Sketch.

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Notches on My Uzi
11/21/2019 07:11:13 pm

Yes, that term should only be applied to Jews, oops, I mean israelis, oops I mean Zionists.


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