Nick Redfern and Micah Hanks Publish Articles Saying They No Longer Think UFOs Are Alien Spacecraft4/7/2016 Back in 2013, I published an article in the journal Paranthropology in which I discussed how the UFO phenomenon, such as it is, has the hallmarks of a modern mythology in that the so-called phenomenon exists primary because “investigators” have forced a narrative onto events that can be better explained in other ways. As I wrote at the time, the various parts of the UFO myth, such as sightings of lights in the sky, encounters with strange creatures, and sexual experimentation, had historically been considered separate and only merged together in the middle twentieth century. These facts have been weighing on the minds of Nick Redfern and Micah Hanks, both of whom published articles in the last 24 hours moving themselves about two-thirds of the way toward my position. They aren’t there yet, though: Both sill think that something paranormal is going on Before reading my comments here, I’d like to encourage everyone to have a look at my 2013 article so that I don’t need to repeat at length my analysis of the competing UFO hypotheses or the list of qualifiers. For those who do not want to read my piece, I’ll reiterate here that nothing in the discussion below can disprove the existence of interdimensional beings; instead, the logic of my argument as laid out in 2013 only renders them redundant to the point that their presence is unnecessary to explain the so-called UFO phenomenon. I would be interested in hearing Hanks or Redfern offer a counterargument to my analysis of the UFO phenomenon.
Let’s start with Redfern, whose views are the less developed of the two. Redfern explains that over the past two decades he has gradually abandoned the idea that UFOs and their occupants are extraterrestrial in origin, adopting the “ultra-terrestrial” view of John Keel and Jacques Vallée that the beings are supernatural shape-shifters who merely appear to be aliens. (This view is derived from Theosophy, whose beings from parallel lunar and Venusian dimensions stand behind the so-called ultra-terrestrial hypothesis.) He bases this on the “evidence” gleaned from the stories of alleged witnesses to alien activity and UFO abductees, all of which is of course highly suspect and unsupported by physical evidence. The same evidence, for example, on the basis of Roman mythology (e.g. Ovid, Metamorphoses 8:621-96) could equally well support the existence of the Roman gods if you chose that as your belief system. In other words, lacking proof, the claim tells us more about the culture of the claimant than about the reality it pretends to describe. Redfern argues that the descriptions we have of alien beings strongly suggest that the creatures are going out of their way to put on a show for us, acting out the role of “scientist” and telling contradictory and overly helpful stories about where they come from and why they’re here. “But, they all seem perfectly comfortable with the Earth’s gravity, temperature, oxygen levels, etc. Doesn’t that strike you as a bit odd?” he asks. Well, yes, but you don’t need to propose trans-dimensional beings to explain that when more prosaic explanation such as altered states of consciousness, cultural expectations, and fraud better fit the evidence, with many fewer assumptions. That’s one reason that it is frustrating to see Redfern write that “Gods, angels, demons, the ‘little people,’ and – today – aliens: it’s all one and the same” without recognizing that all of these creatures are more likely to be fictitious than “real” in an objective sense, products of altered states of consciousness rather than travelers from other realms. It’s hard not to think that Redfern’s view, like that of Keel and Vallée, simply externalizes an internal phenomenon, searching the physical world for evidence of the imagination. Keel and Vallée wrap their ideas in pseudoscientific appeals to interdimensional beings, but ultimately they leave no way to distinguish between extraterrestrials, beings from another realm, or Jupiter and Mercury popping down from Olympus to test our morals. As such, they are imposing a cultural reading—based in a pop understanding of what “science” means—on stories. On a similar note, Hanks, who is soon meeting with Redfern to map out an approach to ufology over coffee, has concluded that there is too little physical evidence to support the idea that UFOs are alien spacecraft. He even comes close to my position when he feints toward understanding that the various facets of the UFO myth may only be connected in the minds of ufologists, and that the UFO phenomenon may be nothing more than a cultural expression. Unfortunately, he lacks the courage of his convictions and doesn’t take the idea to its logical conclusion. Instead, he takes a swipe at skeptics and insists that there is a UFO phenomenon, even if he is unable to define it or present evidence for it: “For the modern skeptic, this lack of clarity on the subject is roughly equivalent to no subject at all, rather than an apparent phenomenon that remains ambiguous.” He concludes that the only way to solve the mystery is to “think outside the box.” And there is the problem: Hanks is trapped deeply within the “box” because he can’t divorce the study of the modern UFO phenomenon (however we define it) from the UFO culture in which he participates. To put it in the more formal terms he’s fond of using to obscure his lack of intellectual rigor, Hanks cannot distinguish between etic and emic approaches to ufology and mistakenly concludes that emic views, originating within the UFO culture, are as likely to be true as etic approaches, originating from outside the UFO culture, despite what he admits to be at least five decades of failure of those emic approaches to yield results. The “UFO phenomenon” is only a singular mystery within UFO culture; historically and academically, its various overlapping facets are not necessarily connected except in the minds of believers. As I wrote in 2013, to find the “answers” one must escape the mindset that the post-1961 UFO myth is necessarily unitary rather than a collection of partially related or unrelated parts thrown together by convenience, a cultural expression that gives shape to visions from altered states of consciousness and ambiguous physical events that aren’t otherwise connected to each other. Hanks decides that there is “nothing truly conclusive” about the UFO phenomenon, but that he essentially agrees with Jacques Vallée, whose views I specifically challenged in my 2013 article. On the plus side, Hanks is coming ever closer to the understanding of UFOs that I and many skeptics share. On the down side, if it took fifty years’ worth of failed ufology to get him that far, we may have a long wait before he realizes that interdimensional trickster gnomes are as redundant to understanding UFOs as phlogiston was for understanding fire.
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orang
4/7/2016 11:26:51 am
As a UFO nuts and bolts believer, it saddens me to observe more and more commentators going over to the PSH (psychological hypothesis) as opposed to the ETH (extraterrestrial hypothesis.) Sure, it is obvious that the bulk of UFO stories probably fall into the psychological realm, without substance, but certainly a core of experiences remain for which a psy explanation is very unsatisfying. Perhaps the growth of the PSH is due to the human frustration of being confronted with a mystery that still has not been solved (at least publicly) so we humans invent an explanation to assuage ourselves, just as we have with the whole worldwide religion industry.
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Clint Knapp
4/7/2016 11:55:34 am
So, I have to ask; exactly why are you a "nuts and bolts" UFO believer?
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orang
4/7/2016 12:48:44 pm
there are just too many ongoing sightings where the UFO can be resolved into a structured looking craft for me to dismiss the phenomenon as simply a psychological aberration. but i am not going to go through the effort to collect and communicate really good events to try to convince anyone that the phenomenon is real and worth serious study. mankind's reaction to this phenomenon is woefully defective and inadequate. please read this essay by Richard Dolan which lists 12 good UFO events.
Clint Knapp
4/7/2016 01:20:25 pm
I read the article in question, and am familiar with Richard Dolan's work in the broad strokes as a once-regular listener of Coast to Coast (both pre and post-Noory). Unfortunately, my third shift schedule has made keeping up with any appearances he's made on Art Bell's Midnight in the Desert (I gave up on C2C a couple years ago) has become impossible in the last six months.
Time Machine
4/7/2016 05:12:18 pm
Clint Knapp,
Time Machine
4/7/2016 05:27:00 pm
>>obscenely famous and over-wrought conspiracy theory
Rose McDonald
4/9/2016 03:34:46 am
I will completely abandon my belief that the whole UFO culture is the product of delusional thinking and a gigantic hoax perpetrated on millions of people world-wide, if anyone in the UFO community can show me one concrete piece of proof that UFOs and aliens are real.
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4/7/2016 12:05:39 pm
Jason:
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4/7/2016 12:25:37 pm
Hanks said coffee in his article, so it's the information I had.
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4/7/2016 12:31:37 pm
True, "something else" is broad.
Time Machine
4/7/2016 05:13:52 pm
>>>dealing with something that is so difficult to comprehend and define
Dick Nedfern
4/7/2016 12:55:39 pm
Until you can provide evidence that is testable, a hypothesis that is falsifiable, or anything better than arguments from authority (“Some really smart guy who won {insert super impressive science award here} believes that aliens from the Zeta dimension are among us to steal our precious bodily fluids!”) or a populist argument (“{insert unsupported number here} percent of the population are certain that the Great Gazoo spies on them in the shower!”), you really have nothing of substance to say or to add here.
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Rose McDonald
4/11/2016 01:08:12 am
Dick Nedfern:
Uncle Ron
4/7/2016 12:23:16 pm
Both the Paranthropology article and today's blog are very well argued, thank you.
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titus pullo
4/7/2016 12:24:38 pm
So let me get this straight. An alien culture somehow travels between the stars and then just tries and watch us...at night they turn on lights in their craft so we can't see them? Sure. They can be seen by radar even through we have stealth technology but they don't.
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Clint Knapp
4/7/2016 12:57:58 pm
I think that's what's been my biggest issue in the whole ordeal: UFOlogy in general has taken a sort of stance where abductees reinforce the notion that the E.T.s have a (sometimes blatantly stated) United Federation of Planets approach to dealing with us.
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DaveR
4/7/2016 01:39:38 pm
I've always felt the same way. An alien culture has managed to design and build a vessel capable of traveling faster than the speed of light, zipped across the galaxy and then, does nothing. To cover the vast distances in space you would need to go magnitudes faster then light speed to make the trip and return in a single lifetime.
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Uncle Ron
4/7/2016 02:55:45 pm
"the aliens would know pretty much everything they would need about humans and then make contact" - or run like hell. :-)
Ken
4/7/2016 03:31:02 pm
Not strictly true. If you believe in relativity as most 'mainstream' scientists do, you can get anywhere in the universe in short order if you have enough propulsive energy. As far as those on the moving ship are concerned, they can in fact travel faster than light speed. As far as those of us here on earth (or on the travelers home planet) are concerned, the moving ship is only approaching the speed of light. From the travelers point of view, they make the trip in short order. Of course when they go home - their planet will be years (or centuries) older. (Time dilation). So interstellar travelers most likely only plan to go one way. Its all relative.
DaveR
4/7/2016 03:43:06 pm
Ken,
Ken
4/7/2016 05:14:12 pm
Only from the point of view of the stationary observer. As far as the travelers are concerned, they just continued to accelerate until they reached 4c (or whatever). Of course to do that you would need to tap "free energy" which may or may not be possible.
DaveR
4/8/2016 08:44:36 am
That's the issue, no known technology or energy source is available to propel a ship to the speeds needed to cover cosmic distances. Voyager 1 has been at it for almost 40 years and in 2012 entered inter stellar space. That's 40 years and it's barely out of our solar system.
Time Machine
4/8/2016 07:51:54 pm
>>>no known technology or energy source is available to propel a ship to the speeds needed to cover cosmic distances<<<
Mr. Redfern, as long as you're around: any news on the Collins Elite document?
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4/7/2016 02:42:02 pm
Mark, yeah I need to speak with the publisher about the document. It may well not be an issue.
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>Mark, yeah I need to speak with the publisher about the document.
Time Machine
4/7/2016 05:16:29 pm
>>>If we're being visited by a non-human intelligence, whatever its ultimate origins, then we are not alone. 4/7/2016 03:33:11 pm
Mark, you say: "If we're being visited by a non-human intelligence, whatever its ultimate origins, then we are not alone. Philosophically, I don't think it really matters whether it comes from another planet or another universe."
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But I'm not talking about what UFOlogists think. I'm saying that there's no real factual distinction between the ETH and the UTH, even if they carry different emotional baggage for people.
Time Machine
4/8/2016 09:26:47 am
>>"Truth"
Only Me
4/7/2016 03:07:53 pm
I think the UFO phenomenon was doomed from the start. After decades of claims about physical craft and first contact with ancient cultures producing no testable evidence, that's when the movement began adopting the trans/interdimensional or incorporeal entities ideology. This, of course, led to the obvious question: How do you distinguish these beings from the old myths of gods, angels, demons, spirits, etc.? Once again, ufology didn't have an answer.
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I'm agnostic-leaning-strongly-towards-skeptic about UFOs, but I don't think our planetary conditions are a real obstacle, even if they come from a radically different world. If they exist at all, then statistically, they've probably been around for millions of years more then we have. Building bodies able to survive on Earth seems unlikely to be a challenge for creatures able to cross interstellar or inter-universal distances.
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Only Me
4/7/2016 04:34:06 pm
It would be more challenging than most would think.
Time Machine
4/7/2016 05:07:04 pm
Only Me,
Only Me
4/7/2016 06:04:52 pm
Time Machine, if you believe UFOs come from God, you should book yourself on Hanks's show. I'm sure his fanbase will love it!
Assuming - purely for the sake of argument - that there really are aliens/interdimensional beings haunting our planet, then the bodies we see them in may not be their "real" bodies. They could be constructs - robotic, biological, or other - which they pilot like drones. They might not even have "bodies"; they might be computer programs, temporarily loaded into one "body" or another as needed, or something even weirder that we haven't thought of yet. (This might also explain the diversity of appearances - their bodies come in multiple models.)
Only Me
4/7/2016 07:20:37 pm
Glad to see you have a grasp on science fiction. If ETs were real, exploring the universe through simulacrums would probably be the best way to go.
Time Machine
4/7/2016 09:15:58 pm
Where there are aliens, there are also angels.,
Time Machine
4/7/2016 09:20:07 pm
>>>whole lot of assumption
Time Machine
4/10/2016 06:46:07 am
Hitler was right about all you Jews.
Kal
4/7/2016 03:15:14 pm
"If you eliminate the impossible, the improbable, no matter how unlikely, must therefore be the truth."
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DaveR
4/7/2016 04:21:21 pm
Just like the cover up in Rosewell. My understanding is it was a crashed balloon being used to detect if the Russians were testing nuclear weapons. The balloon crashed and when it was initially reported as a UFO, the Defense Department let the story go on because the true military operation was Top Secret. Even after the Pentagon admitted to the operation, the UDO crowd said the new story was a cover up to hide the truth about the crashed UFO. Either way the UFO people see a cover up.
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Time Machine
4/7/2016 05:09:23 pm
Ah yes, but the person who stated on the radio in 1947 who said it was a crashed saucer left behind a deathbed confession confirming it was a spacecraft.
Time Machine
4/7/2016 05:10:35 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-465276/Roswell-officers-amazing-deathbed-admission-raises-possibility-aliens-DID-visit.html
DaveR
4/8/2016 08:48:44 am
So what?
Time Machine
4/8/2016 09:33:20 am
The Discovery Channel documentary series "UFO: Down To Earth", Episode Three: “Retrieval” (1996) currently remains the best debunking of Roswell but it was aired before Lieutenant Walter Haut's deathbed confession.
DaveR
4/8/2016 10:17:38 am
A deathbed confession isn't proof of an alien craft crashing in Rosewell. It only proves that the LT believed to his dying day that he had discovered an alien space craft.
Time Machine
4/8/2016 10:31:30 am
The LT in question sought and failed promotion. This could explain his radio broadcast and deathbed confession.
Time Machine
4/7/2016 05:42:19 pm
>>>Hanks decides that there is “nothing truly conclusive”<<<
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Mark wrote:
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Arlene Lambe
7/29/2016 11:50:43 am
I think it's all psyops. Get people to look one way and not another, to believe or disbelieve one proposition against another.
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