Nick Redfern’s prose is clunky, and he has an infuriating habit of writing articles in a disorganized and roundabout style that serves only to obscure what ought to be clear. Sometimes I think he is simply a bad writer, but more often I think that it is an intentional affectation designed to allow him to hide the thinness of his research and the threadbare nature of the stories he retells. Reading his recent article on an alleged U.S. government immortality research program derived from Mesopotamian technology left an impression that there was more to the story than the facts allow, and I think that was Redfern’s goal. Redfern begins by telling his readers that he often receives information from tipsters whose stories can’t be verified. Since Redfern has run out of alien claims that pass even his low threshold for verifiability, he wants to share a story he admits is nothing but hearsay. He does not, however, identify the person or persons who shared with him the claim that the U.S. government brought top scientists to Utah to work on ancient astronaut immortality technology. In fact, he goes out of his way to use the passive voice to avoid even hinting at the origin of the story, saying only “it was told to me” in 2012. Without that key piece of information, the only real interest the story holds is how it reflects the prevailing currents of fringe history. And you know what that means: The Nephilim! According to Redfern, his anonymous informant told him that the story begins with the invasion of Iraq in 2003, but Redfern declines to provide the kind of details that would be necessary to evaluate the claim. After the discovery of unnamed ancient “things” in Baghdad (what, when, and where are unspecified), the U.S. government called together scientists, theologians, historians, and archaeologists in Utah and forced them to sign nondisclosure agreements. Their absence from society apparently went unnoticed, and Redfern never bothered to look to see if there was a period between 2003 and 2010 when so many prominent people went missing for weeks or months at a time. The team of experts allegedly looked into monatomic white powder gold, the fictional substance alleged by ancient astronaut theorists to be the food of the Anunnaki space aliens. Back in 2013, I explained the ridiculous origins of this fringe history staple: The claim […] probably derives from alchemy’s alleged aurum potabile, or drinkable gold, promoted by Paracelsus in Treasure of Treasures and other works in the sixteenth century. He claimed to have invented aurum potabile and he believed it to be the elixir of life, a cure for disease, and a path to immortality. The occultist Manly P. Hall adopted aurum potabile into his system via a secondhand summary of alchemy from a Victorian textbook, and from there it entered occult circles, where it sits today. There is no monoatomic white gold powder and never has been, but its identification in fringe circles with Hermes Trismegistus and the philosopher’s stone allows certain fringe types to fold it in not just to Sitchin’s gold-mining Anunnaki from Nibiru but also to Enoch and the tablets of wisdom, since Enoch and Hermes are often identified with one another in medieval lore. The most extreme version of the white powder myth alleges that Enoch transmitted the gold-making method down his lineage to Solomon, who kept it in the Temple. The Essenes took it to Qumran after the destruction of the Second Temple, eventually using the secret of the gold to counterfeit Jesus into a god by giving him Anunnaki superpowers.
Redfern alleges that his unnamed source told him that the monoatomic gold project utilized the talents of biologists and biblical scholars, who worked together to apply ancient texts to modern science in the hope of duplicating pre-Flood biblical lifespans. “And learned souls in the fields of none other than ‘ancient astronauts,’ and the Bible’s legendary ‘men of renown,’ crossed paths with demonologists.” This is for me the silliest line, if only because it posits that the same people who assert the existence of government conspiracies to suppress the truth are also participating in government conspiracies, adding another layer of conspiracy—and doing so with other conspiracy theorists who believe in different conspiracies! Could you imagine Giorgio Tsoukalos holed up in a secret bunker trying to decode ancient texts for the U.S. government while L. A. Marzulli rants about Nephilim and a demonologist tries to summon the Old Ones? It’s rather a cornucopia of fringe history claims, though: demons, ancient astronauts, the Nephilim… all names for the same beings, seen through three different lenses. Once again we see the centrality of Genesis 6:1-4 (and its amplification in 1 Enoch) to the fringe history worldview, be it ancient astronaut, alchemical, creationist, etc. Redfern claims that because his unnamed source asserted that the program failed, it is therefore likely to have actually existed. “Rather ironically, the fact that I was told the project was a 100 percent failure added credibility to the story – for me, at least, it did.” Redfern implies that he “hit a brick wall” in investigating the story, but he declines to share with readers any actual research he did into the allegations, or any information he tried to solicit from his source to help verify the claims. As I mentioned, knowing the identity of some of the “experts” working on the project would, for example, let us cross-reference their public schedules with the times that they allegedly were in Utah translating ancient texts. Redfern declined to take this elementary step, or at least to share with us any attempts that he made to find out the identity of the experts. If I were a conspiracy theorist, I would it was because he did not actually do any research.
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Mandalore
2/28/2015 02:55:37 am
The Association of Ancient Historians met in Salt Lake City in 2010. This must be his brick wall. By conveniently scheduling conferences these experts can hide their true diabolical intentions to achieve immortality for the government. It seems like it's all true, as I've been told.
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Chewbacca
2/28/2015 03:52:19 am
And Frank B. Salisbury wrote the preface to his book The Utah UFO Display in 2010 in Salt Lake City, Utah
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Only Me
2/28/2015 03:24:33 am
Obviously, the immortality project was shut down in favor of resurrection technology. Gotta protect the multiverse, you know. :)
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Clint Knapp
2/28/2015 03:44:57 am
Nick Redfern; the male Linda Moulton Howe (minus all that former-Miss-Idaho sex appeal)!
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Only Me
2/28/2015 03:55:58 am
*Golf clap*
EP
2/28/2015 05:06:29 am
Plastic surgery has not been kind to Linda... (shudders)
Scott Hamilton
2/28/2015 03:47:30 am
Redfern was told this in 2012 -- funny, that's shortly after he published Final Events, his book that claims there's a secret cabal in the U.S. government that employs Bible experts and demonologists because they believe that aliens are really demons who are stealing our souls to power their ultra-dimensional machines. Complete coincidence, I'm sure. Certainly not someone telling Redfern what he wanted to hear, by combining Final Events with the then hot Ancients Aliens TV series.
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Chewbacca
2/28/2015 03:57:58 am
Nick Redfern is a UFO theologian.
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EP
2/28/2015 05:08:06 am
...because he has nothing to do with getting verifiable physical results. ;)
terry the censor
2/28/2015 06:58:15 am
> UFO theologian
Joe S
3/4/2015 02:18:15 pm
He received his UFO Theologian degree at a renowned University cafeteria, just like someone we know did.... :-)
Clint Knapp
2/28/2015 04:14:36 am
I get the impression he likens "Bible expert" to "Occultist" by some strange twist of Theosophical scope; as though to be an expert in the Bible means to have unlocked the secret powers contained therein, or at least have the best possible understanding of how those secret powers work.
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EP
2/28/2015 05:08:57 am
Dude, have you read the Bible? It's basically Necronomicon! :D
Shane Sullivan
2/28/2015 05:28:58 am
My mother's favorite biblical passage is where the stars lead the Magi to baby Cthulhu.
EP
2/28/2015 05:30:31 am
Baby Chulhu: 1D6 Magi per turn :)
I really don't get Nick Redfern's popularity. I mean, I know there's a lot of nuts in the Fortean culture, but even a lot of seemingly rational and reasonable fringe types eat up his stuff. Every time he talks about something I actually know something about, I can immediately tell he's not just talking bullshit, but it's *obvious* bullshit.
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EP
2/28/2015 05:22:52 am
"The "aliens" were actually deformed Japanese PoWs"
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Japanese PoWs is believable. I mean, I'm not aware of any evidence that that's what happened, and Occam's Razor leads me to think it was probably a balloon. But it's not impossible, and heaven knows our government did plenty of crazy stuff in the Cold War. It's the rest of Redfern's thesis I take issue with. I could write a multi-page essay on all the things wrong with the book, but fortunately Stanton Friedman - who actually worked on the nuclear airplane project back in the day - already has, so I don't have to.
spookyparadigm
2/28/2015 08:43:11 am
There are a lot of reasons (he seems quite personable and has a solid network of friends in the community, he's willing to give tons of interview time to paranormal media in exchange for advertising, despite what one may think of him as a researcher he is clearly a professional when it comes to public speaking and pushing writing jobs out the door, he's English which goes quite a ways in America especially on wooish or geeky topics)
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EP
2/28/2015 11:44:30 am
I came across Loren Coleman's name the other day when I was looking into the Masonic influence on baseball...
spookyparadigm
2/28/2015 01:04:39 pm
His Twilight Language blog is a thing of ... something.
The Other J.
2/28/2015 07:44:53 pm
EP, I'm currently watching the cricket world cup. Since that's the origins of baseball (apparently the first baseball teams in the U.S. were part of cricket clubs), do those occult origins spread their noodly appendages into cricket? I'm guessing the three stakes of the wicket must represent the trinity, and knocking them down with the ball must represent some kind of satanic sacrifice. And maybe an LBW isn't just a way to get out, but also stands for Lesser Banishing Way, which was of course originally Irish and Hebrew Sumerian.
EP
3/1/2015 02:44:55 am
By the Great Pendragons of Mesopotamia!!! Redfern's "anonymous informant" is probably one of the voices in his head,as are the rest of his "tipsters". That would be the conference to attend. Unfortunately,all the fringe folk with voices in their heads wouldn't be able to find a conference center big enough to hold them.
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Shane Sullivan
2/28/2015 05:20:50 am
If they were searching for white powder, why would they go to Utah, and not Colombia?
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EP
2/28/2015 05:23:42 am
Better yet, Argentina.
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spookyparadigm
2/28/2015 08:45:23 am
Because the mountains of Utah are covered in pure snow
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Shane Sullivan
2/28/2015 02:34:30 pm
I've never seen Better Off Dead. I'm going to keep an eye out on cable, though, 'cause I never don't want to watch a Curtis Armstrong movie.
The Other J.
2/28/2015 07:46:12 pm
You can learn a lot about French culture from Better Off Dead.
Bob Jase
2/28/2015 06:55:41 am
"The claim […] probably derives from alchemy’s alleged aurum potabile, or drinkable gold, promoted by Paracelsus in Treasure of Treasures and other works in the sixteenth century."
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Crash55
2/28/2015 09:19:18 am
As a government employee I can tell you that all these government research and conspiracy theories are crazy. We just aren't that good
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The Other J.
2/28/2015 08:26:10 pm
Jason, question for ya:
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EP
3/1/2015 10:01:42 am
LOL at CBC's lame excuses. "The producer had gone home" my ass.
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3/1/2015 10:10:30 am
I saw that show, and while a lot of her research is available online I was disturbed about her dismissal, for a very unexplained "harassment". I'd love to see Jason look into this as well. Pretty messed up that after 30 years of hard work they would just try to make her go away. I hope she wins her case.
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EP
3/1/2015 10:33:57 am
If by "just try to make her go away" you mean "dismiss her after an 18-month investigation by an independent third party because she and her husband spent years bullying and harrassing their colleagues", then yeah :)
The Other J.
3/1/2015 06:09:18 pm
She and her husband may be hideous people once you get to know them, we have no idea. But one consequence of so little information coming out is the kind of nationalistic scarifying that we've seen happen in these comments about Scottish Templar Welsh Vikings who have real dominion over Minnesota and New England. 3/1/2015 12:37:30 pm
I wasn't aware of the situation before this, but I think it's probably important to note that no one is trying to make her work on the Arctic vanish... The CBC did a documentary about it, after all. It sounds like this was entirely an interpersonal issue.
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3/1/2015 01:27:13 pm
See, now I tried to find out more about the harassment but I couldn't. Perhaps I didn't search well enough, but I guess we'll know more when she appeals her case.
EP
3/1/2015 01:29:27 pm
Her husband, Robert McGhee, is one of the most renowned Canadian archaeologists. They would have let him keep his Emeritus title unless the case was pretty one-sidedly against him and his wife.
EP
3/1/2015 03:24:28 pm
Nothing beyond what's been reported in the media, and they haven't gone into the specifics. Sorry.
The Other J.
3/1/2015 05:08:00 pm
Her work isn't vanishing, but she's banished from her research -- which, since it was a government institution, means it probably belongs to them in the first place. The whole thing seems odd.
EP
3/2/2015 03:26:27 am
You're right, the The Other J. Every time a government employee is dismissed for misconduct, the sober minds see signs of government conspiracy at hand :P
EP
3/2/2015 03:42:35 am
Besides, she's not banished from research. She still has her university position. And the government doesn't own the kind of research we're talking about, even when it funds it. They might own the archaeological finds, but that's it.
EP
3/1/2015 09:42:19 am
@ spookyparadigm
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spookyparadigm
3/1/2015 11:02:03 am
I have not read his Copycat Effect book, so cannot speak to it, but I assumed it was based on his master's work on suicide clusters.
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EP
3/1/2015 11:21:49 am
"And before we chastise Coleman too much for it... It is a distinctly modern god for a scientific age."
spookyparadigm
3/1/2015 11:31:10 am
Explaining why individual people believe in synchronicity or magically connected world they can only see is pointless. So many people end up this way, it is clearly something that a lot of people just do. Which is plenty interesting, but on the individual level that's like asking why any specific individual middle class man buys a sports car when he hits 50.
EP
3/1/2015 11:38:27 am
These guys are WAY sorted, then:
spookyparadigm
3/1/2015 11:50:41 am
Those guys. Yeah, I'm familiar, unfortunately. When people talk about how clean living Hitler was, I think of these guys. I could just assign them as libertarians 2.0, with more money and less attachment to rural white identity. But that bizarre wound-up ubermensch fascist edge of crazy narcissistic shit takes it beyond that.
spookyparadigm
3/1/2015 11:58:21 am
Which I guess is a roundabout way of covering the same territory as the Inebriati
EP
3/1/2015 12:03:56 pm
People like Nick Land are the reason I keep plugging McLuhan as required reading every once in a while.
spookyparadigm
3/1/2015 11:44:05 am
Regarding the scientific god and Coleman not being really to blame
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EP
3/1/2015 12:01:53 pm
So basically you're saying we shouldn't blame pretentious uneducated half-wits for worshipping their inflamed confirmation bias and its poorly articluated byproducts?
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spookyparadigm
3/1/2015 12:15:26 pm
It's not an issue of blame, but description. They may half-wittedly create bullshit, bullshit that often echoes earlier bullshit in religious traditions. But they create it (if they're honest, and not just plagiarizing), and see that creation through "investigation" as key to what they're doing. What you do with that description of how Forteans work is a different issue.
EP
3/1/2015 12:31:21 pm
It's part cryptomnesia, part... well, consider Tridents. Elementary mathematics tells us that there are only so many ways two curve segments can intersect. There are going to be tridenty things in one's visual field every once in a while. Just like there are going to be round things and yellow things.
spookyparadigm
3/1/2015 01:00:17 pm
Yes, Toumey, I haven't read it in two years. And no, I don't mean coincidences, but I think I'd just be restating what I wrote earlier to go into it. It's spiritual discovery as informed by a world that values scholarly inquiry. Shitty spiritual discovery and shitty inquiry in the cargo science sense, but still recognizably emulating scholarly inquiry as it was practiced in the 19th century.
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EP
3/1/2015 01:15:30 pm
Ineptly emulating inept impuators ineptly emulating inept emulators... But yeah, fair enough.
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The Other J.
3/1/2015 05:55:27 pm
EP said: "Though it should be added that we're not much better than these people if we rest at saying that phenomenon x bears similarity to phenomenon y, without specifying what that similarity is and why it's significant."
EP
3/2/2015 03:35:41 am
Lots of people have experimented with alternative punctuation for all kinds of reasons. In the English literature, the most influential were various modernists (Joyce, Pound, Gertrude Stein, Cummings, etc.). Their reasons may have often been half-baked, but they were usually at least consciously aiming at specific goals. Making written word more faithful to spoken language, visual compactness... that sort of thing.
Shane Sullivan
3/2/2015 07:34:56 am
Speaking of synchronicity, EP, have you read/are you familiar with Joseph Cambray's Synchronicity: Nature and Psyche in an Interconnected Universe?
EP
3/2/2015 09:34:09 am
What about Cambray? Ask away. Why are you reading all this, anyway?
Shane Sullivan
3/2/2015 02:32:23 pm
I didn't have any particular questions, I just noticed a lot of similarities between the book and your explanation, like Jung's views on the correlation between the mental and the physical.
EP
3/2/2015 02:46:49 pm
I looked at Cambray's book a long time ago. It didn't strike me as very good. While it's certanly not kooky, it's kinda flaky.
Shane Sullivan
3/2/2015 04:18:54 pm
Oh, whoops, I didn't mean to imply that what reminded me of you was nutty garbage! I was endeavoring to figure out what he likes of David Wilcock saw in synchronicity by actually learning about synchronicity, not by reading the likes of David Wilcock.
EP
3/2/2015 04:53:53 pm
Read the chapter on synchronicity in James Astor's book on Michael Fordham. It goes over some of the insider dirt on how the whole thing came about.
Shane Sullivan
3/2/2015 05:06:26 pm
"Read the chapter on synchronicity in James Astor's book on Michael Fordham. It goes over some of the insider dirt on how the whole thing came about."
artbellsguilty
7/23/2016 12:22:11 pm
Nick Redferns popularity can be described easily. He goes on brain dead paranormal shows (c2cam) then he sells his old books whilst teasing at a future book. If it seems to get intrested callers he writes a new book of bullshit based on that
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Kevin Bond
12/13/2017 01:17:21 pm
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Phillip
12/30/2017 02:35:38 pm
I have been on and off this for years and its become clear that you believe your the only one that is right and everyone else is wrong.
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Kevin Bond
12/30/2017 11:37:39 pm
Look, Phillip, for more than six years now I never got sick even of the Common cold, my blood sugar level is 300 mg/dL (normally a killing level), but I am not sick of Diabetes, for I cannot get sick of it, or of any other diseases - What do you say to that?
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