On Friday’s edition of Ancient Aliens the show claimed that NASA published an “official” paper on ancient UFO sightings in the Roman era. As always, Ancient Aliens got it only half right. The paper was actually an article by Richard B. Stothers from the Classical Journal 103.1 (2007), which was reprinted by NASA because Stothers, who died in 2011, was a mathematician and astrophysicist who worked at the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies. He came to the study of ancient history through his work investigating ancient chronicles to help document climate change. Since I had never heard of Stothers’s “Unidentified Flying Objects in Classical Antiquity,” it’s worth taking a look at Stothers’s argument and evidence. The article gets off to a good start when Stothers recognizes that early ancient astronaut literature was essentially “long, uncritical lists” of anomalies from ancient sources, perhaps inspired by astronomer Donald Menzel’s work interpreting portents from Pliny astronomically. Stothers’s also points to the 1968 Condon Report’s criticism of the ancient astronaut theory by Samuel Rosenberg. One of the key sentences from that report: It soon becomes clear that it would take years of full time research to track down and verify the thousands of “ancient” reports included in the nearly 1600 books and articles about UFOs. This means, then, that the general reader, who rarely ever bothers to verify what he reads, is merely given the option to trust or distrust the scholarly accuracy and motivations of the writers who offer him the impressive-looking lists of UFOs sightings. Now, given that the report was paid for by the United States government and was republished by the U.S. Air Force as a U.S. government document, I believe that means that it has fallen into the public domain. However, because the University of Colorado asserts that it owns the copyright but has made the text available for non-commercial reprinting in whole or in part, I have included their copyright disclaimer in my reprint of the ancient astronaut section in my Library. Needless to say, when Rosenberg spot-checked the reports, he found, just as I have, that they are a pack of hoaxes, misinterpretations, distortions, and lies. He even goes on to document how several ancient astronaut “ancient texts” were fabricated, including one that was a 1950s hoax by some school kids, accepted uncritically by one author after another! It’s a fascinating read, especially when we remember that this document was written just as Chariots of the Gods was being published in Germany. I’ll probably have more to say about the Condon Report ancient astronaut section in a future blog post. Anyway, back to Stothers. He proceeded to review ancient texts for space aliens and UFOs by eliminating everything he could attribute to known astronomical phenomena and then cataloging the rest according J. Allen Hynek’s classification of close encounters. However, Stothers begins to lose credibility with me in determining that Livy’s list of prodigies is necessarily accurate because ancient people would never report or record something that didn’t happen! “In view of the time-consuming and costly procedures required by the Roman authorities to investigate witnesses, verify claims and physical evidence, and expiate the more unusual portents, most modern scholars who have troubled to analyze the prodigy lists have come to regard them as trustworthy and accurate.” In fact, he later argues that the “practical” Romans simply reported squarely, without recourse to Greek “theorizing”! The Romans were among the most superstitious of ancient peoples, a trait passed down to their Italian descendants unto this very day! If Stothers truly believes that a government would never manipulate information for political gain, then it seems we owe Dick Cheney an apology over those weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Thus, for Stothers, Livy’s report of a shining phantom navy (21.64.4), round flying shields (22.1.9), and a flying rock (25.7.8) are just as accurate as reports of a suicidal ox that hurled itself from a third story window (21.62.3)—even though Livy wrote centuries after the events in question. He is particularly taken with Flavius Josephus’s account of a phantom army in 65 CE that he believes are flying saucers: Besides these, a few days after that feast, on the one and twentieth day of the month Artemisius, [Jyar,] a certain prodigious and incredible phenomenon appeared: I suppose the account of it would seem to be a fable, were it not related by those that saw it, and were not the events that followed it of so considerable a nature as to deserve such signals; for, before sun-setting, chariots and troops of soldiers in their armor were seen running about among the clouds, and surrounding of cities. (Wars of the Jews 6.5.3, trans. Whiston) Stothers neglects to note that this prodigy, meant as a premonition of war (written, of course, after the fact) comes in the middle of a list of wonders and prodigies, including a cow that gave birth to a lamb, a sword-shaped star, and a comet that stayed visible for a year. You’d think a year-long comet would have made news, but other reports of the comets of 64, 65, and 66 CE (the last being Halley’s comet) did not make them year-long. Perhaps Josephus had conflated two or three? If so, what would this say about the accuracy of the other prodigy accounts?
But even Stothers concedes that most of the mysterious reports of fireballs that he cites from the usual suspects are meteors. To which: Why include them if he had planned to eliminate any reports that could be dismissed as astronomical? When he questions the details of some—like an account of a meteor five centuries after the fact that suggested it was visible for two hours, unlike most meteors, which burn fast—he displays a touching faith that eyewitness accounts are perfectly accurate in all their details centuries after they occurred. Try comparing the various accounts of the life of Alexander the Great or the four Gospels to see how difficult a claim that is to sustain. Stothers also covers accounts of meteorites, which again are astronomical and therefore cannot be UFOs. I’m surprised he doesn’t know about Pindar’s encounter with a meteorite from the scholia to Pythian 3, but as I read his sources it becomes plain that he knows mostly the major authors, his major sources. His primary example is a meteorite that landed between the armies of Lucullus and Mithradites in 74 BCE and was still hot and glowing when they saw it (Plutarch, Life of Lucullus 8.6). Again, not alien. He also talks about a weird rain of silver (Dio Cassius 76.4) but not the one of blood (Dio Cassius 63.27), neither of which, unless I am missing something, is a UFO since spaceships are not liquid. Stothers finishes up by rehearsing one of ancient astronautics’ favorite Roman sightings, the altar surrounded by priests in white recorded twice in Livy (21.62.5; 24.10.10). Stothers offers no commentary except to claim an identical sighting occurred in New Guinea in 1959. Again, it is almost humorous the faith he places in accounts recorded centuries after the fact, accounts that have specific religious and political motivations at the time and place where they occurred. If someone told you his grandfather had seen four dudes at a distance, would you therefore conclude they were space aliens? It’s important to note that Livy himself considered the reports to be so much hogwash: “once men’s minds have been excited by superstitious fears they easily believe these things” (21.62.1; trans. Rev. Canon Roberts). Stothers owed it to his readers—and to the future scholars—to note that his own faith the accuracy of these reports is belied by the ancient authors themselves, who were more skeptical than our scientist author.
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David Bradbury
5/3/2015 08:15:51 am
Jason, I think you're beingh a bit hard on Stothers over the example of the smoking star visible for two hours.
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5/3/2015 09:05:26 am
But what does it have to do with aliens? It seems as though we can explain it fairly well as a comet, which would seem to disqualify it from his search for the inexplicable.
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David Bradbury
5/3/2015 07:56:30 pm
But from his specific viewpoint (date c334, only reported from Antioch, duration 2 hours etc.) it seemed a very dubious candidate for a comet. Had he noticed the Constantine 30th year celebrations refererence, he could confidently have made the 336 comet connection, but without that, I think he was correct to mention it as a puzzle, with 336 in a footnote.
spookyparadigm
5/3/2015 10:03:48 am
That's an extremely interesting paper, though not for any specific "case". It makes several points
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spookyparadigm
5/3/2015 10:15:02 am
Huh, must have hit a word limit. What I continued to say is that the key difference is not the UFO, but ufology. Once people like Fort seize the symbols of science and begin to make non-supported links between "anomalies" and begin to build a secret history, these things are tied together when they would have once been individual signs and portents. The UFO is seen during times of war crisis, and rumors of conspiracy proliferate in a context of vaguer and less-immediate concern rather than direct threat. But it is only with the response to science and the rise of anomaly "research" in a mass-print society that someone writes can collate and write all of these things down in ways that make sense to their counter-narrative.
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5/3/2015 11:43:23 am
Yeah, there's a character limit.
spookyparadigm
5/3/2015 12:21:43 pm
Reminiscent of modern attitudes in government towards UFOs. You get people in government interested for either
Hypatia
5/3/2015 06:51:14 pm
spookyparadigm
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David Bradbury
5/3/2015 08:19:34 pm
There's also the 20-20 Hindsight factor. For example, the "crinitam stellam" which, according to the Roman historian Eutropius had foretold the death of Emperor Constantine I, was actually seen well over a year before the Emperor's death. 5/3/2015 11:17:42 am
Although I don't believe in visiting "aliens from outer space",it is undeniable that the phenomena known as "unidentified flying objects" is real.You have the right to live in denial,Jason.
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5/3/2015 11:37:34 am
Denial of what? It implies nothing about the reality or unreality of objects seen in the sky to suggest that accepting uncritically accounts written centuries after the fact is a fool's errand.
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Tara Jordan
5/3/2015 12:28:00 pm
I am not talking about Jacques Vallée and similar pseudo historical concoctions,but modern day "unidentified flying objects".We have civilian/military pilots,air control/radar operators,credible and reliable witnesses,who have seen something inexplicable by science standards.Even if you reject 99% of the accounts,you still have the one percent,that needs to be answered.
Jerky
5/3/2015 04:00:59 pm
Just because some one sees a "U.F.O." does not mean no one knows what it is. My sister is in the U.S. Air Force yet she has never seen a radar return for a B-17 from 1945 until just last month. She reported it as a U.F.O. until it was pointed out to her that it was a ventage war bird belonging to an Aviation museum out on its once a month maintenance flight.
Tara Jordan
5/3/2015 04:30:49 pm
"Just because some one sees a "U.F.O." does not mean no one knows what it is".
V
5/4/2015 01:01:16 am
Tara, the "phenomenon" is frankly very easily explained by the human brain's pattern-matching and link-building functions. People connect things that aren't necessarily related, and come up with an incorrect conclusion (ie, UFO). Or else, they see something they just don't have a pattern for and they attribute that to something entirely unrelated anyway. In other words, there is no "phenomenon," just normal human functioning. Individual incidents may deserve investigation, but you're the one in denial if you think there's a pattern of incidents that make up a specific, external "phenomenon."
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5/4/2015 03:35:18 am
Fair enough.Please visit the NARCAP (National Aviation Reporting Center on Anomalous Phenomena) website,and keep on pretending that all these individuals (scientists,former aviation professionals,pilots, engineers,technicians and the like) "live in denial".The debate is not over aliens from outer space and similar insanities,but about a genuine phenomena.
V
5/4/2015 11:05:04 am
1. Being a scientist, former aviation professional, pilot, engineer, technician, or "the like" does not automatically mean that one is immune to the weaknesses inherent in the operation of the human mind. My father's an engineer and he has ALSO seen more than one UFO--all of which have ultimately proven to be normal, rational, everyday things. Like the B52 bomber, before the program was announced, and a hummingbird casting an odd shadow. 5/4/2015 11:51:10 am
"Get some brain Gas-X, my dear. You need it.".
Platy
5/3/2015 02:45:30 pm
Funny you bring this up since I was going to ask you if you heard of or watched the documentary Mirage Men. I haven't watched it yet, but I'm probably going to check it out at some point.
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spookyparadigm
5/3/2015 03:33:14 pm
I had heard of it, of course, but I hadn't revisited the topic in a while. To me it seemed like a johnny-come-lately attempt to get in on some of the journalistic and scholarly work done on ufology in the last decade or so.
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spookyparadigm
5/3/2015 03:40:06 pm
And probably the funniest/saddest thing, I think, is how irrelevant all of the old spygames-UFO stuff has become culturally. The audience for that is graying out, with the younger audience wanting to either be told about the Illuminati, demons, or both, though even there the references are less the old occultists like Keel and more pop culture (that Nick Pope hasn't worked Slenderman into his gigs astounds me).
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Platy
5/3/2015 04:26:04 pm
Interesting points all around! "The audience for that is graying out, with the younger audience wanting to either be told about the Illuminati, demons, or both, though even there the references are less the old occultists like Keel and more pop culture (that Nick Pope hasn't worked Slenderman into his gigs astounds me)." With that situation, it might even just be a matter of curiosity, in that those people might not even believe in it.
Platy
5/3/2015 04:42:35 pm
Here's the Guardian article where I found out about it. I'm sharing it because I found this part to be interesting:
spookyparadigm
5/3/2015 05:03:51 pm
Not believing what one sells to the alternative crowd? Would never happen. My names is Charles Berlitz, and you can take that to the invisible warship and carefully fuzzed and cropped alien pictures bank.
Tara Jordan
5/3/2015 03:56:04 pm
Jason.I have a question for you. We all know that 99% of the stuff out there is absolute garbage,but why don't you,for once,focus on the serious part of the equation.The one percent.
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terry the censor
5/3/2015 05:20:50 pm
> why don't you, for once, focus on the serious part of the equation. The one percent.
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Tara Jordan
5/3/2015 05:48:03 pm
Terry.I am not asking or expecting Jason to provide me answers. I am perfectly capable of doing my own researches.I was merely suggesting that you guys,could extend your area of curiosity.
Tara Jordan
5/3/2015 05:55:51 pm
Dont get me wrong,I dont think I have to justify myself.I do not associate "unidentified aerial phenomena" with visiting aliens from outer space,or similar nonsense.I am a natural born skeptic/atheist,but there is something intrinsically mysterious, going on out there (at high altitude),which I believed, is deemed of interest
terry the censor
5/3/2015 06:00:30 pm
Tara, fringe topics are plagued by hobbyists and skeptics who spread themselves too thin and try to discuss matters for which they have no background.
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Tara Jordan
5/3/2015 06:17:31 pm
You have a point.
terry the censor
5/3/2015 04:12:17 pm
I just happened to have read this paper a couple weeks ago, though not as closely as you have, Jason. However, I do think you are a little hard on Stothers. You make many valid criticisms but I should like to take exception to two related charges.
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Phillip
5/3/2015 07:24:57 pm
"...the general reader, who rarely ever bothers to verify what he reads, is merely given the option to trust or distrust the scholarly accuracy and motivations of the writers who offer him the impressive-looking lists of UFOs sightings."
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Only Me
5/3/2015 07:25:08 pm
This line from a comment on the Guardian article Platy linked to sums up EVERYTHING in fringe world:
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Peter N.
5/7/2015 10:16:55 am
Wow, I'm reading this article now, but I also glanced over the Condon report, and I'm shocked to find a number of basic mythological mistakes any of my students would be able to correct. I have a half a mind to let some classics or art history undergrads grade this report with a red pen. Since when is Helen Menelaos' daughter? That really messes with the family dynamic. Since when is Horus the sun god (even when he looks like Horus he is Re in the form of Horus, Re-Horakte)?
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