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Outraged Gigantologist Accuses Me of Lies, Asks Readers to Send Me Hate Mail

3/16/2015

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Last evening I received a series of emails from a Canadian gigantologist who accused me of stealing my page of newspaper articles about the discovery of alleged giant skeletons from his website and his unpublished archive of newspaper articles. The gigantologist, Scott Reaney of Canada, claimed that in 2010 he invented the idea of compiling newspaper accounts of giants, that my list of articles was suspiciously similar to his own, and that—worst of all—I was using these articles for an “agenda.” That agenda apparently included using the list of entries for keyword searches (an invalid methodology, he claimed) and statistical analysis, a blasphemous violation of the sanctity of the original texts, which must be read individually as discrete units; hence the reason they should not be digitized in a keyword searchable format instead of being presented as scanned pictures of the articles, as most gigantologists prefer. He was particularly incensed that I wrote that newspaper accounts of giants were comparatively rare before the Cardiff Giant hoax.
Reaney immediately published statements on his website accusing me of being a liar for taking a skeptical view of newspaper reports of giants and applying critical thinking to the newspaper stories. He also asked for his readers to send me hate mail: “I encourage you to contact Colavito to make him aware of the fact that he is completely full of crap... and it is clear that his sole purpose is to push his personal agenda.”

Frankly, it pissed me off that Reaney berated me for judging, following Andy White’s statistical analysis, that newspaper stories of giant skeletons were less frequent before the Cardiff Giant hoax than afterward, when on his own website he writes that “these stories were so common prior to WW2... then abruptly taper off.” Really? And how might you have come to that conclusion without statistical analysis of some sort, even a rough one?

I informed Reaney that not only had I never heard of him or his website, but that my list of articles was significantly different from his own. I emphasized that chronological order is not a copyrightable organizational framework, and I did nothing to hide the fact that many of the sources from which I compiled my collection of public domain material were his fellow gigantologists, whom he immediately accused of stealing from him to further their agendas. I make no bones about the fact that I am a skeptic; it’s on my homepage, and I can’t imagine how anyone could be shocked and offended to discover it.

I thought you might enjoy a taste of this fellow’s hate mail, from one of his missives:
It was not an issue of chronological order (proving once again that you are a total idiot); it was about the fact that you are a liar with an agenda, and you have been caught lying on your own website.

You are not a legitimate researcher (as you would claim); you are just another pair of flapping lips pushing around recycled air like a ceiling fan.

The fact that you tries to gloss over your bullshit with some made up crap about statistical newspaper analysis PROVES the desperate efforts you putting forth to justify being completely fucking wrong. I view you in the same light as those no-mind idiots who spent nearly 5 centuries trying to discredit Norse relics in North America simply because you WANT to believe the Columbus myth. After 500 years, they finally got it right... but only after 500 years of discrediting the facts of Norse explorations. Now, all those intellectual dipshits like yourself act like ‘Oh Man, we knew all along that Columbus wasn't first’ (while they scramble back to their history books to rewrite them to make themselves appear less stupid).

Is it really gonna take you another 475 years to figure out how wrong you are, cuz I don't have the fucking patience.

Now... it was VERY clear from my first communication that I have examined what you said, and have found it littered with turds, yet, you replied in an effort to do what??? You are a liar, and have proven it. Every word that you try to respond with, by default, must be viewed as 'just another one of your lies'.

I can continue putting you in your place all day/week/year... so my question to you is... why do you bother responding to someone who will use your own false statements against you to show how full of shit you are??

Are you so desperate to have your opinion validated by your intellectual superior that you would willingly line up to be kicked in your academic testicles?? Just how big of an idiot are you?
Now why would Reaney be so upset about a webpage that puts together a bunch of newspaper articles all in one place in an easy-to-read format? Oh, right: He and his co-author, Mike Marshall, were hoping to turn their collection of newspaper articles into a book called Chronologies: Book of Giants. In 2014 they asked for $10,000 from supporters for the effort, of which they raised $202. A free resource is competition.
63 Comments
titus pullo
3/16/2015 08:34:37 am

I would not respond to this guy ever again. You never know who you are dealing with and their level of anger which might translate to real violence. You know I'm a libertarian especially with regards to all things governmental. When I ran for local school board, I was very much against programs being shoved down our throats via federal money (fuzzy math) and campaigned against taking those dollars..well it turned out a big time "progressive" in the neighborhood's wife had the contract to provide the district with the new textbooks. He actually came out and tried to intimidate me (I'm 5"10 and he is about 6"9")..I tried to reason with him and finally just decided if he wanted to fight...I was all for it...I grew up in a poor section of a small town in western NY and can take care of myself...I wasn't so scared about me but what if the psycho decided to attack my wife or kids or burn down my house which was just down the street. I cooled things down and then never again talked to the guy and ignored his unprofessional emails until they stopped. You never know how people looking for a fight will act.

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Mark L
3/16/2015 10:10:49 pm

Well, at least you're not taking one person and generalising out to all "liberals"! Refusing public money just means accepting private money, and if you're seriously suggesting that corporations have less of an agenda than the government (our elected representatives, lest we forget) then I'm genuinely astonished you're on this site.

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Titus pullo
3/17/2015 12:12:23 pm

I'm against crony capitalism of any kind. Most govt programs are corrupted by the well connected. lol at the baking regulation, it sure wasn't about helping the common man. My parents were very involved in givt and I got to see just what really drives most programs that are supposed to help the people. Critical thinking is something promoted on this site, so I'm not following your point. For the record both liberals and conservatives are crony capitalists.

PNO TECH
3/16/2015 08:36:51 am

LOL
Yeah: just lol...
No, wait:
Wow, what vitriol!

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Bob Jase
3/16/2015 08:39:02 am

Had you listed the articles alphabetically he probably would have claimed to have inherited the copyrights to the alphabet from his Nephilim ancestors.

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EP
3/16/2015 09:01:55 am

Jason, you seem to be acting as a magnet for crazy Canadians. First the Pink Kush guy, now this...

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Scott Hamilton
3/16/2015 09:16:00 am

If he only raised double Benjamins towards his book, I'm guessing he doesn't have that many minions available to send you hate mail.

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Andy White
3/16/2015 10:02:49 am

I feel like I missed something here. Am I involved in this somehow?

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Jason Colavito link
3/16/2015 11:33:23 am

No, you're not. Reaney accused me of "lying" about newspaper accounts of giants by suggesting that they aren't necessarily literally true. In our emails, I pointed out that people like you have used these articles to make databases that can be used for statistical analysis of the frequency of key words (like the double teeth) and the frequency of references to giants over time. Reaney lost it and essentially claimed that it was illegitimate to use even basic counting to learn things about the newspaper articles since each one can only be understood individually. Trends = witchcraft.

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Andy White
3/16/2015 02:04:22 pm

Huh. Counting. I get on people for inappropriate use of multivariate statistics, but it turns out I'm over the line with counting. I guess I should stop throwing stones.

Shane Sullivan
3/16/2015 10:35:47 am

Jason, cut the hate and just admit that 500 years ago you didn't believe Vikings had visited North American. =P

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Shane Sullivan
3/16/2015 10:44:06 am

Ugh.

North *America*.

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Chris Lovegrove link
3/16/2015 11:36:38 am

Jason, I'm confused. What exactly are you supposed to have lied about?!

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Jason Colavito link
3/16/2015 11:48:38 am

I'm not sure, to be honest. The best I can figure is that Reaney thinks that I lied about there being fewer reports of giants prior to the Cardiff Giant hoax and he thinks I tell lies about various reports of giants having non-giant explanations.

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lurkster
3/16/2015 12:03:44 pm

Ha ha ha ha.

There really isn't anything else that needs said here.

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redeyeview
3/16/2015 12:14:36 pm

Make sure you post all the best hate mail.

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Hypatia
3/16/2015 02:06:20 pm

Gee... and I thought flaming idiots roaming the internet were the worst...

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Only Me
3/16/2015 02:06:20 pm

Jason, it saddens me that you even had to respond to something that stupid. You sir, are a brave man.

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Andy White
3/16/2015 03:52:22 pm

His comments on YouTube videos are enlightening.

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Clint Knapp
3/16/2015 06:12:58 pm

Never heard of the guy. His website is awful, though. I didn't think it was even possible to mangle a blogspot page so thoroughly as to deliver all the content in one giant, scrolling mess. I suppose that's what he means when he complains about keyword searches and modern Internet data conventions; he hasn't figured out how to do it, so it must be evil and wrongheaded.

Given his relative obscurity, bad web design and the fact the only other place I could find him mentioned was on the Godlike Productions forums (unless he's the Scott Reaney on Linkdin with a Canadian school board credit, which would just be depressing), I'm guessing you can handle the TENS of hate mail letters that arise from this sad outburst.

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Clint Knapp
3/16/2015 08:48:14 pm

Oh, by the way, his site's favicon is the logo from The Greatest American Hero. Yeah. Do with that what you will.

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Scott
3/22/2015 01:25:11 pm

Oh... I guess you started playing the game, "Say Stupid Shit That Is Obvious, But Isn't Based on Anything Relevant."
Okay... let's play, Retard!!!
Superman is a fictional male who was 'Super'.
Wonder Woman is a fictional female who was a 'Wonder'.
Batman... is not really a fucking bat.

EP
3/22/2015 02:10:48 pm

Scott, how is your sphincter doing? Still quivering?

Jamie Eckles
3/22/2015 07:47:13 am

Did he ever post to Godlikeproductions? I was a senior forum moderator there for over 6 years, and the only mod who is a skeptic. If he posted on GLP I probably tangled with him a few times. I went by the nickname DrPostman there.

Jason, if he sends any more hate mail your way please do post it. I love to read the rantings of nutters. I got used to it during those 6 years on GLP. Some of it can be quite entertaining.

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gabriel darke
3/16/2015 08:00:14 pm

It's been a while since I've felt inclined to comment. I am also Canadian. I would never support a person so inclined to using profanity and insults rather than even attempt to present a rational reason and argument for his distress. However, you've got to admit some of his insults are pretty good, and even poetic!

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Kal
3/16/2015 08:03:05 pm

This person giving JC hate is insane and clearly thinks the words in print are his creations! Suppose he invented the Internet and the Alphabet system and Numbers. Sheesh. And he has a kickstarter for a book and didn't think to just self publish! He could have spent as little as 400 dollars US on a cheap direct to print on demand book 'oot there' in the land of Bigfoot.

His channels and site aren't anything like yours, except you both used Google and used blogging maps to set up your sites, but he doesn't own that either. Making a blog even via facebook is not copyrighted. Google owns those blogs is you use it. Facebook would too.

How he even knows about you is pretty weird. He must have used Google on the subject of giants.

One time I debated one of these intensely convinced nutters that their version of Martian history was insane and not very original at all, but when called on it he only got flustered.

Theses guys are not convinced of anything other than the strange illusions appearing and disappearing from their heads.

This blog is not google powered though, but it does have guidelines, and you was web master of it, like a wordpress, can flag and delete the trolls.

Wow, even SW wasn't that off his 'rockin' chair.

And the use of the 'f' words show such class. He clearly got his education from the schoolyard. Anonymity through the net is one thing, but hate speech words is another. If he can't talk nicely and carry on intelligent discourse without tossing out f bombs, he is by definition a loser.

I could see nothing remotely copyright fraud worthy. You both can talk about giants.

Nobody copyrighted talking about giants.



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Scott
3/21/2015 08:06:39 am

The issue that was originally voiced to JC is this.
I know that he did not do the research himself. He was given the research by other people, then claimed that he did it.
My claim of him being a THIEF and a LIAR is based upon the fact that, even after several communications, he maintained his claim that HE did the research.
Finally, he did admit to the fact that a different researcher actually had provided those news items. (yet... he neglected to inform you morons about that FACT.)
It is hysterical that he only displays the final email... not the earlier ones. The earlier ones were equally rude, due to the FACT that I recognized his AGENDA; but that is what he gets for being a 'penis with feet'.
Anyone of you pecker-heads who has an opinion on the issue can tongue my quivering sphincter!!!

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EP
3/21/2015 08:27:08 am

"my quivering sphincter"

Man, you should probably get that checked out... sounds unhealthy...

Only Me
3/21/2015 08:56:04 am

You shouldn't be so insecure, dude; its ugly.

Jamie Eckles
3/22/2015 07:51:55 am

So you admit to being uncivil from the beginning? You really are quite the asshat. You come across as jealous of JC. I think that's what is motivating you. Nothing but jealousy. JC is an author and you aren't.

Clint Knapp
3/16/2015 08:44:54 pm

Bored, with nothing better to do, I took a little time to scroll through Reaney's enormous mess in search of an article I only had knowledge of from another fringe blogspot rag calling itself The Nephilim Chronicles. The article in question can be found here: http://thenephilimchronicles.blogspot.com/2014/09/mortared-arched-stone-tomb-contained.html or by searching Reaney's ridiculous list for "1856.05.21 - Grand River Times".

While Search for the Lost Giants was on, a friend of mine had been excited to hear the show was in town looking for "a giant tomb" and expected the town to appear in what we're all hoping was the only season of that waste of time. I didn't see it, but I only watched the first episode and then read reviews here where it was not mentioned. I assume it was either a segment shot and left on the cutting room floor or something for a planned next season.

I will say this; Reaney actually has the Grand River Times article scanned on his list, which is more than I found before. If his methodology were a little more systematic and his web presence more than a joke, I might have found his article instead of a reproduction. However, he does not have the "Burlington Iowa Gazette" article referenced by the Grand River Times one. Neither do I, but I haven't had the time or occasion to go to Burlington and search through whatever the local library might have of 1850s Gazette records. If I get the chance to blow a day searching paper archives that could at best hope be on microfiche, I'll let you know.

I bring this up now, though, just as a demonstration the slipshod research we've all grown accustomed to when dealing with gigantologists and the fringe in general. Reaney attempts to pass of an article reporting what an article in a different paper altogether had to say about an almost certainly fictitious event as evidence.

And in case you're wondering about the alleged tomb? The location the article references, the corner of Main and Valley, is in the heart of downtown Burlington, a block away from the Mississippi River and in the valley formed by Burlington's North and South Hills (actual limestone and flint hills for which the area gets its original name; Shoquoquon). Even with modern engineering to manage the river, it's directly in the flood zone and both the 1993 and 2008 floods reached past that intersection. I don't know which building is meant by "Gov. Grimes' new building", though. That intersection is home to two banks, a parking lot, and a recently-demolished restaurant today, and have no idea what was there in 1856. I do know, however, that if there had been such a find it's exactly the sort of thing one of the local museums (one of which used to display Chief Black Hawk's bones) would be more than happy to capitalize on; and are not.

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Clint Knapp
3/16/2015 09:07:17 pm

Minor correction; I used "Chief" to describe Black Hawk because that's how he's most commonly referred to. The man was not an actual chief of the Sauk, however, and more properly a "war leader" or "war chief" of a specific band. The actual terminology is still up for debate.

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Only Me
3/16/2015 09:35:25 pm

Are you so desperate to have your opinion validated by your intellectual superior that you would willingly line up to be kicked in your non-academic testicles??

Well?? Are you, Clint?? :)

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Clint Knapp
3/16/2015 10:16:51 pm

Sure. I bet I could get at least a $202 out of court settlement for the assault, too!

EP
3/17/2015 02:43:46 am

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Ian Marchant
3/17/2015 11:13:11 pm

Don't worry about him Jason (not that I imagine you are)

Just remember the wise words from Game of Thrones...

"There's no cure for being a c*nt"

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Hypatia
3/18/2015 03:43:49 am

I was told that the wise words were
"There's no cure for being a pr*ck"

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Ian Marchant
3/18/2015 10:32:56 pm

I was quoting the character of Bronn on Game of Thrones and his version is a bit more pithy :)

BG
3/19/2015 04:44:52 am

Did some digging and luckily it sounds like Scott Reaney is NOT a history/english teacher in Ontario, but is actually a "playground equipment fabricator" in Medicine Hat, AB. A myriad of social media and discussion forums show similar types of abusive language.

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EP
3/19/2015 05:45:11 am

Clearly safety of children is in able hands. Nothing to cause concern :)

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Scott
3/21/2015 08:08:39 am

You betcha!!!
Now bask in the warm glow of my presence!!

Scott
3/21/2015 07:55:21 am

Haha. Wrong Guy.
You give proof to the statement 'The only thing that could possibly exceed the stupidity of an American... is two Americans."

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EP
3/21/2015 07:59:48 am

OMG, is it really Scott Reaney himself?! Ooh, ooh, I'm getting flustered!

Scott
3/21/2015 08:34:26 am

Who said that I was from Ontario??? The voices in your head??
I never made any claim of being a history teacher... so I am inclined to think that you are just making shit up.
I do appreciate that you are so disturbed by this, that you would spend time trying to find tidbits about life... but I am quite surprised about the level of ineptitude that you have thus far displayed.
In conclusion... you are an idiot.

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EP
3/21/2015 08:36:52 am

Scott, what are you wearing right now?

Only Me
3/21/2015 12:17:08 pm

Trying to insult EP based on nationality, without knowing what his nationality is, is apropos for someone with less brain activity than a fence post.

You mock BG for attempting to find out who you are when you shouldn't. You're obviously a car wreck still waiting for rubberneckers to drive by, so you shouldn't be upset BG had more success in his internet search than you've had launching your fringe career. There are many people upset with Canada for setting loose Justin Bieber on the rest of the world, but at least he has two things you'll never have: recognition and fans.

EP
3/22/2015 04:33:06 am

What are you talking about, Only Me? Insulting me always has the intended effect and never ever backfires ;)

BG
3/23/2015 02:55:22 am

Scott,

I see that you attended a college with a world rank of 8904. Ouch! All those tar sands seem to have addled your brain.

Scott
3/22/2015 01:26:11 pm

Wow!
This has been completely hilarious.
It's like watching the Mutual Circle-Jerk Society giving out handjobs to one another, then patting themselves on the back with their sticky fingers to celebrate the 'awesome work'.
For a collection of self-appointed, genius detectives... it is truly remarkable how you idiots can spend so much time trying to discern various tidbits of my life... and get every fucking detail wrong.
The only reason that you knuckle-heads could even spell my name properly is because I fucking spelled it for you.
I was asked by one of you dipshits "What was I wearing?"
The answer is "The smile of smug satisfaction" as I watch you imbeciles scramble in your efforts to jack each other off.
So far...you people have been a source of entertainment; you have not been a source of intelliegnce.
Every year, UNESCO publishes its report on global education standards, and every year, the US is ranked far behind the good folks in Canada (as well as Poland). So, the comment that was made about 'the only thing that could possibly exceed the stupidity of an American... is 2 Americans' is a statement proved by science.

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EP
3/22/2015 02:13:18 pm

There is one thing this thread has taught us. Of all the people to ever post on this blog, Scott Reaney is definitely the one most likely to suicide by cop.

Only Me
3/22/2015 04:00:47 pm

@EP
I disagree. Scott's too much of an emotionally underdeveloped man-child to have that level of guts.

The only reason he's smiling is because, until Jason mentioned him on this blog, no one knew he existed. Having folks read his moronic comments here is the best he'll ever achieve.

Jamie Eckles
3/22/2015 04:53:23 pm

I looked at his site and there isn't a single comment I could find on it. This really is the most attention he's ever gotten. I almost feel sorry for him.

Andy White
3/21/2015 10:09:48 am

What exactly are we considering "research" here? Reproducing the text of newspapers articles? Searching for those articles in online databases? I don't get it.

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EP
3/21/2015 10:16:07 am

Andy, don't you know? If you perform an action, no one can ever perform an action of the same general kind without violating your intellectual property rights :)

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Chapel Eastland
3/22/2015 03:06:04 am

I went to Scott Reaney's website. In my opinion he has borderline personality disorder with strong psychosis. Delusional, narcissistic, OCD, grandiose, paranoid, and most likely a loner with few friends or family.

If it wasn't "giants" it would be reptile overloads, leprechauns, hollow-earth, or another self-imposed delusion.

This would not be his first mental break with some semblance of reality, rather many years of susceptibility to fantasies where he believes he is the lone voice of truth, becomes the public hero thereby receiving accolades testifying to his genius.

The best course would be to ignore this individual. He'll quickly find another person or group to direct his invective.

Suggesting treatment for his diminished mental capacity and paranoia is no use. Everybody is wrong but him.

He's a rather pitiful character that no one takes seriously.

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EP
3/22/2015 04:31:56 am

I bet Scott Reaney also smells real bad.

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BG
3/23/2015 03:54:15 am

Well it turns out he does have a friend! A shotgun toting farmer: http://www.reddeeradvocate.com/news/Tees_farmer_enters_court_with_a_lot_of_support_behind_him_42799687.html

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Jerky
3/23/2015 10:55:23 am

That or he wishes the shotgun totting farmer was his friend, who better to protect him from all those "stupid" "gun-totting maniac" "John Wayne" Americans just south of the border.


Dan Ust
3/22/2015 05:09:13 am

You had me at "Outraged Giantologist." ;)

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Jamie Eckles
3/22/2015 03:51:29 pm

Going by his comments here the assumption that he has a sphincter assumes facts not in evidence. Dude has some serious rage issues.

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Only Me
3/22/2015 04:03:32 pm

Of course, he has a sphincter, Jamie! His, unfortunately, is located where normal people have a mouth.

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EP
3/23/2015 03:13:10 am

Hmmm.... That *does* explain the quivering... :)

Micah Ewers
3/23/2015 08:56:18 am

Well, gee...

I started looking into newspaper archives compiling reports of alleged giants as far back as 2007 and 2008. I guess that makes me the Godfather! Nahh.. anyone with free time can search archives and compile databases. I have 2,000 such accounts now. The reality is, the impetus for the modern quest of Giantology stems from before the Childress era (B.C.E), I'd say late 80's early 90's, as giants appear in some of the books written by Brad Steiger, and others as far back as the 1970's.. but also Creationist researchers such as Kent Hovind in the 80's and 90's compiled old accounts of giants, and then we had Ross Hamilton, Steve Quayle etc. really bring the subject to new horizons in the late 90's early 2000's.

I have corresponded with most of these current giant skeleton researchers in the past decade. It has been a unique experience... ;)
I'd say the subject is largely un-resolved as yet. I suspect some genuine 7 foot plus human skeleton have been found, but on the flip side, we also have so many hoaxes -- and I must say, I hadn't fully appreciated the number of hoaxes until recent years -- both old time gaffs, and modern photo shops. So the truth, in my opinion, lies somewhere in the middle.
Some very tall people have existed from time to time, perhaps families or even occasional tribes, but even so there seem to have been lots of tall tales as well.

Cheers.

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