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Pentagon Says Whistleblowers Provided No Verifiable Crashed Saucer Information

7/20/2023

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​In the wake of David Grusch’s claims to have seen evidence that the U.S. military has a secret program to reverse engineer crashed saucers from the interdimensional beings with which they forged secret agreements, next week, the House Oversight Committee will hold a hearing on UFOs. The hearing’s co-chair, Rep. Tim Burchett, who previously appeared on Ancient Aliens to explain why Yahweh was a space alien, said the hearing would be about “aliens.” The hearing’s other chair, Rep. Anna Paulina Luna, shared a photograph of the materials she prepared for the hearing, which included debunked UFO images from online ufologists, numerous spelling errors, and the “I Want to Believe” poster from The X-Files. 
​However, by midweek, Burchett seemed to be pulling back on what ufologists like Jeremy Corbell promised (using the phrase “GO GO UFO”) would be a world-changing hearing and “the start of a new era” by providing “Disclosure,” the long-sought millenarian idea that the federal government would reveal the existence of extraterrestrial or interdimensional beings. Burchett said the hearing would include only three witnesses, David Grusch and two former military pilots, David Fravor and Ryan Graves, who will testify about why “these pilots think that something else exists.” That’s a far cry from exposing the government’s secret treaties with interdimensional space monsters.
 
Burchett’s pull-back came only hours before ABC News released an interview ahead of a Hulu-exclusive documentary about UFOs in which the scientist heading the government’s UFO office, Sean Kirkpatrick of AARO, explained that AARO interviewed more than thirty witnesses related to the crashed saucer claims and found no verifiable evidence to support the assertions.
"We've interviewed almost 30 individuals who have come in to provide their testimony. And out of all of those, none of it has yet led to any verifiable information that substantiates the claim that the U.S. government has those ships or has a reverse engineering program either in the past or currently," Kirkpatrick said when asked about the allegations.
 
He downplayed the possible existence of a secret program that he is not privy to, saying, "Nothing has been denied us."
 
"A number of these [whistleblowers] believe and have stated -- and we believe them now -- that they have seen something. And we are investigating," he said.
​The clear implication of Kirkpatrick’s comments is that the whistleblowers’ conclusions about the evidence that they have seen does not comport with an objective analysis of the same evidence. In short, one might reasonably argue that alien mythology shaped the conclusions the witnesses drew and biased their evaluations of it.
 
ABC is airing its UFO special on Hulu, not on ABC, suggesting that they did not find the subject of intergalactic or interdimensional invasion sufficiently credible to be real news.
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Kent
7/20/2023 11:23:53 am

The Church of the SubGenius was way ahead of Tim Burchett.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_SubGenius

"Jehovah 1, more commonly known as JHVH-1, is some wrathful alien space god from a corporate sin galaxy, and he is known by many other names such as Wotan, Ra, etc. He is one of the Elder Gods, who also include several other interesting gods among their ranks, such as Eris Discordia (who may be his wife) and Cthulhu.

He transmitted the PreScriptures to "Bob" in 1953. He has allied with a race of aliens from Planet X known as the X-ists, who plan on destroying Earth on X-Day. He is worshiped by many members of the Church of the SubGenius for his many Slackful deeds such as The Divine Emaculation of "Bob" and his alliance with the X-ists to help bring about X-Day.

Like "Bob", Jehovah 1 enjoys sex with many different partners, and Jehovah 1 has fathered many gods and demigods, much like one of his best friends, the god who the Romans called Jupiter and the Greeks called Zeus, who was also a sex maniac and likewise became father to many gods and demigods.

Jehovah 1 and Zeus often cruise around the universe and go out partying together at the best intergalactic clubs, trying to pick up hot alien chicks, but usually they just get so drunk on Binsky's nuclear beer they end up passing out and wake up the next morning in bed together with strange questions about their sexual orientations."

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Joe Scales
7/27/2023 10:16:39 am

Bleeding head good.
Healed head bad.

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Jim
7/20/2023 11:26:31 am

Somebody needs to pull a Randi and offer a million bucks for any verifiable proof of aliens.

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Kent
7/20/2023 01:26:47 pm

Hmm. I always thought "pulling a Randi" meant "having a much younger boyfriend who lives with you under a fake name with fake identity documents."

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Biggus
7/21/2023 09:51:53 am

Kent will never be accused of going overboard with context.

Kent
7/22/2023 10:28:55 pm

"Doesn't Make Sense" says what?

Sceptic
7/20/2023 03:15:40 pm

Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. By such criteria, the dreamers would be billionaires,

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A Naive Statement
7/20/2023 02:56:27 pm

[He downplayed the possible existence of a secret program that he is not privy to, saying, "Nothing has been denied us."]

Awful full of himself to believe that.

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David Fravor has become chummy with Bob Lazar
7/20/2023 03:25:18 pm

Look into this, folks. That's what you get when you employ scatterbrained pilots even for the military.

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E.P. Grondine
7/21/2023 09:40:31 am

Excuse me, while it is true that there are a whole whole lot of people who desperately want to believe that aliens are going to save us from our own stupidity....

You almost never run into "scatter brained" pilots.
Particularly "scatter brained" pilots flying off Navy carriers.

If you do not believe me, go down to your local general aviation airport and have a cup of coffee.

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Sceptic
7/21/2023 07:25:49 pm

Even Kenneth Arnold.
The very pilot responsible for starting this crazy madness..
And the explanation to what both pilots - Kenneth Arnold & David Fravour witnessed - was identical (not spaceships from outer space, but something far more mundane and down-to-earth).


Don't put my reply to E. P. Grondine
7/22/2023 12:35:34 am

That's the main thing.


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