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Politics, Religion, and Greek Mythology

10/9/2012

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The internet is still aghast at House science committee member Paul Broun’s claims that evolution and the Big Bang are “lies” from the “pit of hell.” However, Broun is not the first and won’t be the last politician to subordinate science to ideology. William Jennings Bryan was Secretary of State and nearly president of the United States before he went on to prosecute John Scopes for teaching evolution in Tennessee. Ignatius Donnelly was a congressman before almost single-handedly sparking the Atlantis genre of pseudoscience. President Andrew Jackson used the false myth of a lost race of white mound builders to justify the Trail of Tears.

But crossing the Pond, we find in the pages of history a subtler but no less fictitious attempt to force the past to conform to ideology. Regular readers will remember “Arkism,” the weird attempt to argue from the premise that Noah’s Flood was the last common event shared by all humanity that therefore all world religions were distortions of the Genesis flood myth. Well, at the height of the British Empire, the future Prime Minister of Great Britain and Ireland, William Gladstone, proposed a similar theory about the origins of Greek mythology.

In a series of works beginning with Studies on Homer and the Homeric Age (1858) and continuing in Juventus Mundi (1869) and articles in the Nineteenth Century (down to 1879), Gladstone—trained in the Classics, but deeply religious—argued that the Biblical account of creation was the first and only truth, and that Greek mythology was a degenerate corruption of the same, an imperfectly preserved revelation. Thus, Zeus and his two brothers, Poseidon and Hades, are a degenerate version of the Christian Trinity, confused with elements of Satan. The glories of the Christ to come—Divine Glory and Divine Wisdom—were divided wrongly between Apollo and Athena, who, through confusion, gave rise to several ancillary deities to personify their various attributes.

In this view, everything about Greek religion that agreed with the aesthetics and morals of Protestant Christianity—particularly the Church of England—was therefore original to Greek faith, while those elements at odds with Victorian morality, particularly myths of the gods’ various sexual conquests and homosexual loves, must therefore be a corruption introduced by vile and base barbarians who projected their own unnatural desires into the sky.

Gladstone’s social position and personal rectitude went a long way toward promoting this theory, though other scholars quickly challenged it on the basis of fact: There was simply no evidence for the corruption theory unless one assumed that the Biblical account was the first, and perfect, form. In fact, when arranging Greek texts chronologically, it became obvious that from Homer to the Hesiod to Plato, mythology became more systematic, not less; and morality approached closer to the Victorian ideal, not farther from it. George W. Cox cut Gladstone’s theory to shreds in his unfortunately named Aryan Mythology (1870, rev. 1882).

Gladstone also argued in his Homer that because the word “blue” is never used in Homer, the Greeks were therefore colorblind.

The point, of course, is that politicians and religion tend toward one result: distorting facts in favor of ideology. Or, with the right assumptions, any set of texts can be distorted into anything, from Christian fundamentalism to the ancient astronaut theory to Cthulhu in World Mythology.

19 Comments
Julianne
10/9/2012 09:21:53 am

Amen!

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Aaron Adair link
10/9/2012 05:16:34 pm

Interestingly, this reminds me of a recent work that argues Greek myth and literature influenced the Old Testament, including the works of Plato. Check out "Argonauts of the Desert" by Philippe Wajdenbaum.

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Jason Colavito link
10/10/2012 01:13:30 pm

It's fascinating stuff. I've written before about scholarly arguments that the Jonah tale incorporates Greek Argonaut myths, and that Jepthah's sacrifice of his daughter was modeled on the Greek tales of Iphigenia and Persephone. Thanks for recommending Wajdenbaum's book. I'm going to have to read that one.

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David
10/13/2012 11:08:12 pm

There was an interesting programme on the BBC presented by the historian Robin Lane Fox in which he posited the idea that the Greek myths originated in the eastern Mediterranean - "Greek Myths: Tales of Travelling Heroes" - http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00vzxv9
I'd say it's quite probable that both the Greek and the Biblical stories came down from previous cultures' myths.

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Jason Colavito link
10/13/2012 11:29:29 pm

It's based on Fox's book "Travelling Heroes," which is very good. Similar to it is M. L. West's "The East Face of Helicon." There is very little doubt that Greek myth descends from two interlocking, ancient sources: Indo-European mythology (brought with the Greek language) and Near East mythologies, which probably filtered from Mesopotamia to Greece via the Hittites.

Julianne
10/10/2012 01:44:13 am

I've mulled over this one for awhile and it occurs to me that this behavior really cannot be a attributed ONLY to politics and religions. I mean, what are politics and religions but a culmination of the beliefs and behaviors OF individuals. They are a reflection of the of the individuals.

I think we all, as individuals, do this. I mean, how many of us will hold to a certain belief and then quote texts which are against it? We all tend to side with writings which support our established belief systems while rejecting those which attempt to deny it.

I think of my family here, in the way they interpret everything to fit into their own religious belief system. They do this AS individuals in every other aspect. So do I. So would everyone, if they can be open enough to see an aspect of themselves that they may not particularly LIKE.

That's the exciting think about looking inward - you don't always like what you see, but there's so much to learn there.

Just food for thought...........

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Pat Thompson link
10/10/2012 04:06:56 am

I stumbled upon your website whilst seeking information about the author Alan Landsburg. Following links, I came upon a comment which you made about a certain person believing in the existence of 'light beings'.

Did I get the impression you are rather skeptical about the existence of these beings?

If so, let me tell you I too was skeptical. Many years ago after having read the famous story about the young girls at Fatima and the vision of the lady whom they say was 'Mother Mary', I thought these simple peasant girls were over-whelmed by the publicity they received and played along with the crowd and officials. I was skeptical to say the least although I didn't say this to anybody about my feelings. At the time, I wondered if they did in fact see something mystical and why them? Are there 'light beings' really and who/what are they? Perhaps, if they do exist, they would make themselves visible to innocent religious/pious/righteous individuals and not to someone like myself. And, if they did exist, would I be privileged to see one at all during my life time? Not likely. I remembered thinking how a vision of a 'light being' would frighten the life out of me. This was many years ago when I was in my 20's or 30's and I forgot about it. I am now in my 60's and still non-religious, non pious and yet early hours of morning (still very dark) on 3rd January 2008, I was awakened by a sound outside which I couldn't decipher. I was facing my husband on the right side and turned to release my right ear so that I could better make out the sound which I heard and still I wasn't sure what was making that sound outside. The window overlooking the front of the block of apartments was to my left and I decided to hop out of bed to see what was making that sound, in so doing I opened my eyes whilst lying on my back - slightly facing the left side and was astonished/awe-struck and completely taken by surprise to see this extremely clear bright white glowing light surrounding what appeared to me to be a youngish lady wearing a glowing long white gown - approx. a metre away from the foot of my bed to the left. This spectacle was so bright yet was comfortable to my eyes. It was obvious the bright glowing white light (which I will never ever forget as I've not seen anything like it ever) came from her very essence. Her face was aglow and her eyes were as clear as glass, her facial expression was neutral - no smile as she was looking at me, she said nothing at all - not even telepathically. We eyed each other - me in awe (though not afraid) and I wondered why she visited me as she said nothing at all. The sound outside was still audible and I wondered if her presence was generating it. All manner of thoughts passed through my mind as we looked at each other - Gosh! they do exist; why isn't she saying anything; did I catch her unexpectedly, perhaps i wasn't meant to see her; she's standing in the space where my typist chair is - how is that possible; is she generating that sound outside; should I waken my husband - no she might disappear if I attempted to waken him; She stood there and I got a distinct impression she looked at me in a way as if to say - 'you can see me - can't you'? Then she was gone.

I lay in bed quite stunned at what had happened and thought it may be an omen of something to come, and still the sound outside persisted. I hopped out of bed and looked out of the window, it was quite windy and saw an empty coca cola can being blown by the wind, it hit the curb where it stopped and so did the strange sound. Eventually, I fell asleep and was awakened shortly by the same sound except the bright glowing lady wasn't there. I did get out of bed to see the same can being blown in the opposite direction, the sound stopped when it hit the curb on the other side. When my husband woke up at 6am to go to work, I told him what happened and showed him the coke can outside. Once outside, he picked up the can and binned it.

Believe me, this incident did happen as I said and I just wish to affirm the existence of 'light beings'.

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Jason Colavito link
10/10/2012 05:29:43 am

I appreciate your comments, and I believe that you had a genuine experience. We will have to agree to differ, however, on whether it was supernatural. Your description conforms "very closely" to the pattern of a "waking dream," especially when you state that you fell asleep after it. If you read the blog entry I posted today (10/10/12), you'll see that I talk about my own experiences with just such waking dreams.

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Pat link
10/11/2012 12:30:20 am

The purpose of my input was to affirm to you and anyone else that these 'light beings' do exist as one made itself visible to me. The pattern of a 'waking dream' you talk about is without a doubt false in my case. I did not go into detail about the visitation. I was fully awake and do not have 'waking dreams' of this nature and I did not fall asleep straight away. I was so taken aback by this apparition and laid in bed for at least 5-10 minutes before hopping out of bed to see what was making the sound outside after she disappeared. Even after establishing the source of that sound, I laid in bed mulling over what I had seen for over half an hour before falling asleep.

Please, I am not trying to ram this down your throat, because as far as I'm concerned, if you had had that experience and mentioned it to me then, I would have wondered if it was imagined, but I was privileged I know now and reiterate, it was not imagined, nor was it a waking dream, she was as real as my keyboard and screen in front of me this moment.

The only thing is, I still have no idea who she was, why she made herself visible to me as she did not communicate with me nor I with her, I can only speculate that she may have answered a question which I had in my mind many years ago. But why now after decades - unless time is not an issue with them who exist in a timeless realm. Her brilliance has been etched in my mind and can never be denied or forgotten by me.

terry the censor
10/13/2012 05:23:29 pm

Pat, no one wants to belittle your experience, but there are many known psychological phenomena that you should investigate before determine conclusively that you have met esoteric energy creatures.

Our brains are not lifeless blank recording machines, they are wonderfully complex and sometimes baffling structures. Camera don't have the quality of interiority but we do.

I don't know what happened to you, but I do know that once something gets into our heads, we can have trouble telling where that thing came from: outside or inside.

Here are two jumping off points:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_awakening

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source-monitoring_error

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pat link
10/14/2012 12:29:22 pm

Hello Terry

Please don't worry about it, I expect this type of reaction and I really don't mind. Just keep an open mind. :-)

I do understand and accept not everyone has heightened awareness. It may surprise you and others if I said I have been exposed to esoteric energies from very young, on the other hand you may scoff at me and under your breath utter these words 'not another looney fantacist'! And that's OK too because it doesn't really matter, does it? Just remember my words - Light Beings do exist because I saw one or more to the point - she allowed me to see her and it would be stupid of me to dismiss it out of hand.
:-)

terry the censor
10/14/2012 12:54:46 pm

> I do understand and accept not everyone has heightened awareness

Are you suggesting, Pat, that you cannot possibly be in error?

If so, aren't you being close-minded?

pat link
10/16/2012 09:10:01 pm

:-) There is no suggestion nor error on my part as far as this incident is concerned Terry. I was fully awake and totally aware of my surroundings. This 'brilliant' lady was definitely standing and looking at me approx. a metre away from the foot of my bed. I can confirm too, she was not a ghost/spectre or anything related, her apparition was 'out of this world', awesome, brilliant, unforgettable, astounding, mind-blowing, fascinating - there are no words to adequately describe her. I visualize her image from time to time and still gasp in awe and disbelief that I, (little old me - one of billions of ordinary human beings on this remote planet) was given that privilege. Gosh! I often say to myself and to my husband - why me, what was so special about me?

terry the censor
10/17/2012 06:42:22 am

Pat, good luck. But I find that people who advocate fringe beliefs are uninterested in trying to disprove their ideas, even when the means are available. If you insist you are special and cannot possibly be in error, therefore you don't need to check your experience against the voluminous scholarly literature on bedroom hallucinations, well...then you have no credibility as a witness.

terry the censor
10/13/2012 05:06:49 pm

> before he went on to prosecute John Scopes for teaching evolution in Tennessee

Don't forget that Scopes volunteered to be prosecuted as part of a test case for the law. The case was engineered by those who disagreed with the law (and some who wanted publicity for Dayton). Only later did Jennings get involved, when the trial became a circus.

I highly recommend "Summer for the Gods: The Scopes Trial and America's Continuing Debate Over Science and Religion" by Edward J. Larson.

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10/22/2012 01:09:25 am

Hello Terry

No 'voluminous scholarly literature on bedroom hallucinations' :-) would in anyway alter what I experienced, I don't need to prove my credibility to anyone as it is of no consequence in the wider scheme of things - is it? I certainly am not in error when I say you and I have been in communication on this blog over a period of 12 days OR perhaps you can suggest 'voluminous scholarly literature on computer blogs on this site'. I would decline and stand my ground perhaps we are both hallucinating - are we?

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terry the censor
10/22/2012 06:39:17 am

Bad analogy. I can confirm our correspondence and any third party can drop by this blog and verify it. The light beings cannot confirm your sighting nor can any third party verify it.

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10/25/2012 03:28:02 am

Perhaps so - inadequate analogy. However, confirmation of visitation by a 'light being' (that's what it was - obviously), is not sort by me at all nor is it necessary. The saying - 'seeing is believing' is most apt and is applicable in rare incidents such as this.

The important thing in our communication is - I believe you above all will not forget my steadfastness in this matter and some day in this world or perhaps in the next, it will impact on you and other skeptics.

I suspect you are now bored with my utterances and I shall now bow out. It was interesting chatting to you. :-)

pat link
8/26/2014 01:33:50 am

Hi Terry,
It is nearly two years hence since we last interacted, and I can confirm - the/a 'light being' has not payed me another visit or more to the point, has not allowed me to see 'it' despite hoping, because I feel I wouldn't be taken by surprise a second time and would try to communicate. I was dumb-founded.

The brilliance of the pure white light in which this lady was immersed, has faded. At one time I could attempt to visualize this light which can never ever be imagined or reproduced as it appeared, now ten years+ hence, all I have is a memory that the brilliant white light was a part of this vision and cannot be replicated in my mind, yet the lady's clear glassy eyes focused on me accompanied by her neutral facial expression, is as clear as ever.

I am fully aware there is another realm with beings which interact with some of us mortal beings because I have had some rather remarkable personal experiences in the past and prefer not to speak about them because of the skepticism and ridicule heaped upon people who have spoken openly about their experiences.

Believe me Terry, you would be astounded if I related things I've seen and experienced. I listen to and read testimonies which blow the minds of the general public, but I smile, because I know and understand now, there is more to our existence than we know or than meets the eye.


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