Pop Culture Roundup: Celebrity Alien Contact and "Murder House" Ghost Tours

10/20/2020

This week two more celebrities announced their supposed encounters with space aliens, and it was about what you would expect. The less surprising was Miley Cyrus, who told Interview magazine that she was traumatized by a flying saucer that she witnessed while high on drugs:

I had an experience, actually. I was driving through San Bernardino with my friend, and I got chased down by some sort of UFO. I’m pretty sure about what I saw, but I’d also bought weed wax from a guy in a van in front of a taco shop, so it could have been the weed wax. But the best way to describe it is a flying snowplow. It had this big plow in the front of it and was glowing yellow. I did see it flying, and my friend saw it, too. There were a couple of other cars on the road and they also stopped to look, so I think what I saw was real.

Cyrus went on to say that she was unable to look at the sky for several days for fear of space aliens.

More insidiously, Demi Lovato delivered a commercial for UFO huckster Steven Greer's new alien-contact app under the guise of claiming to make contact with space aliens during meditation sessions. In an Instagram posting, Lovato said she traveled to Joshua Tree where she met with Greer and the team behind his CE5 app, a $10 networking application designed to teach users to contact space aliens and to meet up with other alien enthusiasts in their local areas. She then encouraged users to give Greer money for the experience, but not before alleging that Greer could help create world peace:

Over the past couple months I have dug deep into the science of consciousness and experienced not only peace and serenity like I’ve never known but I also have witnessed the most incredibly profound sightings both in the sky as well as feet away from me. This planet is on a very negative path towards destruction but WE can change that together. If we were to get 1% of the population to meditate and make contact, we would force our governments to acknowledge the truth about extraterrestrial life among us and change our destructive habits destroying our planet. This is just some of the evidence from under the stars in the desert sky that can no longer be ignored and must be shared immediately.

Lovato did not mark the posting as sponsored content, though it bears all the hallmarks. Greer, you will remember, is the UFO enthusiast who promoted a stillborn fetus as an extraterrestrial and was credibly accused recently of fabricating a UFO sighting for cash. Apparently, he is now moving away from nuts-and-bolts aliens toward a more spiritual experience where the aliens are all in your head.

Finally, for fans of American Horror Story, the mansion featured in season one of the FX anthology series is now about to be exploited for cash by its opportunistic current owners. In a press release distributed today, homeowners Ernst von Schwarz and Angela Oakenfold announced a $25 pay-per-view Halloween paranormal tour of the house, which they now allege is haunted after spending several years developing and "documenting" a ghost story for the property, which did not previously have one attached to it. There will also be t-shirts for sale from their basement t-shirt studio.

The owners claim to have fled the house in terror due to supposed ghostly activity.

Dr Ernst von Schwarz and Angela Oakenfold said they realized something was amiss before they even moved in. They received an email from the former owners handyman saying, “I will be out before May 1 and nothing will be left in the house except the ghosts.” Brushing it off, his words came back to haunt them on their very first night when they were awoken by a huge bang and dragging sound. Terrified after hearing it a third time, they called police only to be told--after hours of searching--that it was probably a ghost. It would not be the last time the Los Angeles Police Department would tell them that, even documenting it in official records as “ghost activity.”

They are, to put it mildly, lying. In news reports from 2018, when they bought the house, they actually called the police because of break-ins from fans of the television series, leading them to sue the home's former owners, claiming they were never told that the house was deluged with crazed TV fans. As part of their lawsuit, they alleged that the owners failed to disclose two ghosts in the house which had never been previously documented, a claim that had legal ramifications as they tried to make back the money they spent on the house because archaic laws demand disclosure of ghosts at time of sale. Their years'-long efforts to spin break-ins into ghostly activity had the happy coincidence of buttressing their legal claims.

They claimed that the house lost significant value, and it is rather clear that their ghost tour is a cash grab.

They call their home "Murder House," after the show, even though there was no murder there.

64 Comments

Jim

10/20/2020 04:19:33 pm

Article from Feb 15 3018:

https://www.ihearthollywood.com/2018/02/a-real-american-horror-story.html

"My advice, start selling tickets for a tour....everyone wins."

lol.,,,,, also:

"Umm..let's be fair here. First off, how did they NOT know that the house was in a TV show about a couple who buys this house that is haunted and tries to sue their real estate agent? HOW? And how is their story the EXACT SAME STORY as Season One Of American Horror Story...and how are they still not aware of the show?"

Not Kent

10/20/2020 04:57:39 pm

Wow. Both in San Bernardino County.

So? Stoned B-level "celebretards" commuting between Palm Springs and L.A. while driving high on who knows what?

Maybe the Navy should look in to that as the real "Airborne" Aerial Threat they'd like us to all be aware of?

Hoo! Careful on the I10, what with the likes of those two nimrods joining you on the road 🙄

John Lennon's UFO

10/20/2020 05:13:30 pm

Is John Lennon the earliest Pop UFO Contactee ?

Lennon claimed to have witnessed a flying saucer in 1974 in his interview given to Andy Warhol's Interview Magazine in 1974. Later Uri Geller claimed that Lennon was given an egg shaped object by an alien (only after Lennon's death, of course).
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https://www.ufodigest.com/article/famous-psychic-spy-an-alien-agent/

Kent

10/20/2020 10:43:17 pm

ANY mention of that fellow does society a disservice, whether it's the fraud or the wifebeater. Chapman was a dawdler, never one for schedules. Too little, too late.

Take it to the cushion

10/23/2020 12:39:08 pm

Does that mean that discussion of any sightings that might be reported by Shambhala members is off limits?

10/20/2020 05:38:47 pm

My current thoughts on "Haunted Houses":

It has occurred to me, after 7+ months of "COVID lockdown?

The dead have nothing on the living, when it comes to haunting a "space" ("shell", in the case of Ekistics).

No one will ever come in to this space after I am gone, and not feel my "presence". It's not possible. Ghosts are forgettable, but my living residue that impregnates these walls, are not. Ever.

I've learned how to "haunt" a space, while still living. I, am the "haunter" that haunts.

Don't mean that's a bummer, or whatever, just saying.

👍

Joe zcales

10/20/2020 08:44:05 pm

They should look into whether their homeowner’s insurance will pay for a lawyer to defend them in the lawsuit!

Hilda Hilpert

10/22/2020 03:01:59 pm

HaHA Good one. This whole thing came about because some time in the 1970s, a couple in New York State purchased a house. Had all manner of strange things happen. So they sued the realtor and won. This story was carried by Reader's Digest magazine and later picked up other places. If Neil De grasse Tyson said he saw a UFO, I would believe him.Miley Cyrus, no, not by a long shot.

10/21/2020 02:19:58 am

I often slip into my rubber suit and visit this house. It relaxes and centers me.

Given that Jason hasn't examined the body it seems to me that "stillborn" is a bridge too far.

10/21/2020 10:18:25 am

" His research revealed that Ata was a female human foetus – stillborn or dead shortly after birth"

https://thewire.in/the-sciences/alien-chilean-skeleton-ata-was-a-stillborn-human-baby-study

"I often slip into my rubber suit and visit this house."

https://i.etsystatic.com/6215988/r/il/82ea50/1860116565/il_1140xN.1860116565_8ukp.jpg

10/21/2020 01:18:56 pm

There's no such thing as a foetus after birth.

Google

Logical fallacy

Blabber

10/21/2020 06:17:38 pm

What about Trump ?

Dr. Ozborne

10/21/2020 08:39:29 pm

I'm sure that the people publishing in medical journals such as Obstetrics and Gynecology would be thrilled to have Joe Kent lecture them on the appropriate terminology.

Nerd11135

10/21/2020 09:16:58 pm

[There's no such thing as a foetus after birth.]

"Stillborn fetus" is clearly a thing. Google has 30,000 hits when you search as an exact phrase.

Here's one:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3982741/

Here's another:
https://www.cdc.gov/Nchs/data/misc/itop97.pdf

I don't really feel like trying to find out the details tonight...But it's clearly a thing.

10/21/2020 11:37:47 pm

Au fond and en fin, that's your universal retort, isn't it? Sad.

10/22/2020 12:45:39 am

"What about Trump ?"

I don't want to "Bwahahahahaha" to hard here.

But? What about him, Jim?

Ya know? There's a whole attempted science of "Change Management" now? Like, all these poor folks trying to get their arms around the true American phenomena of "Change".

We are a very young country. We are based on "Change", and must rely upon it as our greatest strength.

Please? Keep up. You are slow and lazy. 😅

10/22/2020 02:04:32 pm

Not Kent:

Perhaps rather than calling me slow and lazy you might try to follow the actual conversation and grab a sense of humor.

Kent said "There's no such thing as a foetus after birth".
This is obviously open to interpretation depending to the legal definition of individual countries but mainly used by Kent as a red herring and has nothing to do with with Jason's topic of conversation.
I simply answered in kind with a little red herring humor of my own.

Kent: "Given that Jason hasn't examined the body it seems to me that "stillborn" is a bridge too far."

Me: https://thewire.in/the-sciences/alien-chilean-skeleton-ata-was-a-stillborn-human-baby-study
" His research revealed that Ata was a female human foetus – stillborn or dead shortly after birth"

Kent: "There's no such thing as a foetus after birth."
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You see Not Kent, no one said there WAS a foetus after birth ! Who is he arguing with ?
Kent either does not understand what the word "or" means or he is throwing in a red herring as a distraction, an attempt to change what the argument is actually about. This is Kent's usual schtick when he gets in trouble.

While in his usual nitpicking manner Kent has chosen to argue a completely insignificant and meaningless point that has no bearing on Jason's blog entry or what Jason's point was.
Perhaps you, Not Kent, are the one who should to try to keep up.
Do you think it was a bridge too far for Jason to refer to the dead "alien" baby as a stillborn fetus given that immunologist Garry Nolan at Stanford University, California who sequenced the DNA said " that Ata was a female human foetus – stillborn or dead shortly after birth" ?

Kent goes over Jason's posts word by word with a fine toothed comb looking to, not dispute what Jason actually says, but to nitpick any insignificant and meaningless point he can find . Then he tosses in some Google translate phrases from another language to prove how edumacated he is.

10/22/2020 06:10:08 pm

Argh.

Jim? Thanks for taking the time to write that all out. I sincerely appreciate your input.

I don't think Not Me is arguing with anyone. "Stillborn", and "Foetus" really are not the same thing. I didn't recognize any posts where Not Me was trying to shovel himself out (?).

Then you walk in with "What about Trump"?

Where on Earth did that come from? Which is why I posted.

You did the right thing, I am humbled, and I'm sorry I called you slow & lazy.

But...

I do have a sense of humor; a really hideous one. I did catch the drift because I focus on the oeuvré of poster's posts as I get to know them through this medium, and not their "nitpicking", or "fine-toothed-combing"

Your "what about Trump?" shite is right up there with my response. You have difficulty with change, I can "feel" that.

So, once more, thanks for getting back. Now? What the hell did you mean by that post?

Have a nice day.

10/22/2020 06:50:34 pm

I should probably let you know where I stand on abortion, Jim, and Foetuses, and Stillborn Babies. Just so you are informed ahead of responding, if you do. This will not make much sense to you, or likely, many folks here.

How many babies have you helped deliver? How much time have you spent working OB/GYN cases in the O.R. None? Right? I have over 20 years of experience in the O.R..

You don't walk away from that wondering about precise definitions of "stillborn", "foetus" or "alive". Let me share a quick story:

When I first came onboard, I was asked by a fellow O.R. grunt if I were going to scrub abortion cases. I said, "I don't know", because I didn't. She asked, "Are you going to scrub them til you do know?". I was floored. I scrubbed some. Then stopped.

Dead or alive? You are either born, or you're not. I might not have been delivered alive. It was a decision that was made, and not by me. 😳

I could simply say that "a foetus delivered dead is "stillborn".

I'm like Teflon when it comes to this semantics nonsense. It just slides right off me.

Children? They're "Born in the eyes of their parents", "They exist, a miracle dreamed up by families", "They don't make it to term, due to extenuating circumstances".

Now, what about Trump?

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Or politics? Or...

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10/22/2020 08:21:26 pm

Kent:

"There's no such thing as a foetus after birth."

Me (revised):

"What about baby Trump ?"

Got it Not Kent ? I'm comparing Trump to a baby or fetus because of his infantile manner and tantrums, the man is so dependent on others for every little thing that he thinks you need ID to buy groceries.
What are the odds that he even ties his own shoes ?
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"You have difficulty with change, I can "feel" that."

What you are feeling is probably just a little gas.

10/23/2020 03:00:43 am

"Got it Not Kent ? I'm comparing Trump to a baby or fetus because of his infantile manner and tantrums, the man is so dependent on others for e..."

Jaysus, Brother. Sorry to ask you to explain yourself twice, You row hard, but wouldn't be missed.

I am, in fact, Not Kent, nor is he I.

You are obsessed. Your obsession is a danger to The Crew, of the Argo.

Can't even believe you tried to to explain that to me me like that. You must think I'm stupid? And that's alright.

This:

"Got it Not Kent ? I'm comparing Trump to a baby or fetus because of his infantile manner and tantrums, the man is so dependent on others for every little thing that he thinks you need ID to buy groceries.
What are the odds that he even ties his own shoes ?"

Is not funny all. This is

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T8XeDvKqI4E

You, on the other hand? Are not.

Wow. Sleep tite. Be Funnier.

❤️

10/23/2020 01:25:12 pm

Many people tell me,,,,,,,a big husky construction worker came up to me crying, telling me it would be so much funnier if you didn't have to explain it.
I know more about funny than probably anyone in the world.

Yes John Cleese is a very funny guy, thanks for the link.
Here is more John Cleese for your enjoyment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UueGetlwpw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_btMlqvhLg

10/23/2020 06:09:04 pm

Wonderful video shares, Jim.

I really loved them both.

I have no "dog in that race". Know what I mean? I'm ex-military, and entirely agnostic to politics. I see you are not, and that's great, too.

I am, in fact, precisely as "stupid" as Cleese suggests in the 2nd clip. He came right down on top of it.

Much appreciated, Man! Love you.

I have a funny way of making friends. Glad to make your acquaintance.

❤️

10/24/2020 10:10:48 am

Not Kent:

"I have no "dog in that race". Know what I mean? I'm ex-military, and entirely agnostic to politics. I see you are not, and that's great, too."

Look NK, I will make one last comment in the hopes you can look beyond your narrow minded view and see the whole picture.

This is not political for me at all.
I don't care if it is Republicans or a Democrats running your country . I am not an American and I don't care who sits on your throne from a political standpoint.
It is an anti- science Trump that must go, he is not only causing massive unnecessary death and destruction in the U.S., he is, for no other reasons other than stupidity, ignorance and a massive ego, causing the destruction of the entire planet.
The damages being done are not wholly evident to most, but make no mistake, the results of what Trump is doing to the environment will mostly be seen in the upcoming years and centuries.
We have a tiny sliver of time to try to reverse global warming and that sliver is being squandered with Trump actually leading the US and the world in ignoring science and putting the world on the exact opposite trajectory with policies of effectively increasing the use of fossil fuels and increasing pollution.
This is insane.
The fires, hurricanes, flooding etc. you are seeing now are nothing, nothing but a little taste of what is to come.
Expect these to get much, much worse, you can expect drought, worldwide starvation, and flooding at catastrophic levels, and much, much more.
Do you agree that Katrina was bad for New Orleans ?

https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/how-would-sea-level-change-if-all-glaciers-melted?qt-news_science_products=0#qt-news_science_products

"There is still some uncertainty about the full volume of glaciers and ice caps on Earth, but if all of them were to melt, global sea level would rise approximately 70 meters (approximately 230 feet), flooding every coastal city on the planet."

This little virus we have now will seem like a walk in the park compared to the destruction coming our way.
We may not be able to stop the future destruction entirely, it is already too late for that, as you can plainly see, but we can, at least, strive to mitigate the damages, save millions, probably billions, of lives and do what we can to save this planet we share.

Please Not Kent, consider the reality of the situation beyond the narrow window of your countries political insanity.

Greta Thunberg

10/24/2020 12:20:20 pm

Canada's hands are not clean when it comes to per capita contribution to pollution and willingness to purchase manufactured goods and agricultural products from the nations that because of sheer size and level of industrialization could be expected to account for far more pollution than a nation with a population smaller than Tokyo.

10/24/2020 06:50:45 pm

Thanks, Jim.

"Please Not Kent, consider the reality of the situation beyond the narrow window of your countries political insanity."

Golly, you know? I don't own my "country's (FIFY) political insanity" just because I'm American. Also, must be the "how-to-boil-a-frog" thing, cuz this doesn't seem any more "insane" than the 80s were, from where I'm standing.

I've read what you posted twice.

I can't be led to believe that one guy's tour of duty as the POTUS has destroyed the world. You seem to be saying, "We were on the right track, had this tiny chance to make it all right between 2016-2020, and then Trump came along".

Talk about "narrow".

Like I said, you don't like change. We are living in a time of great flux. That's cool right?

You're also not telling me anything, at all, about how shitty things are about to get.

This is what America does best. We are so young as a country. We fail fast, we learn from our mistakes, we optimize based on the feedback.

Don't worry you're fine, and we'll share the glory with you from what we learn from being willing to take on the cutting edge of human societal failure.

As Carl Jung said: "The gold is in the dark".

Are you Canadian? Because? Don't even be bitching about this stuff to me if you have a King of Donair nearby. That's just wrong, Bro.

❤️

10/25/2020 09:38:33 am

Mmmmm red herring for lunch,,, what aboutism rules Kentland,,,but, but, but, look up there !

Sorry Greta Kentburg, but Canada is a participant in the Paris climate Accord and has been working to reduce it's emissions.

The Trumpian US not so much.
The US accounts for about 15% of the worlds greenhouse gasses second only to China.
There are only a handful of the 197 countries that have not ratified the Paris agreement.
As far as I can tell the US is the only country that has pulled out of the accord.
The US has chosen to stand against the entire world on this issue, madness, soon Trump will be telling us the world is flat.

" President Donald Trump doubts that greenhouse gas emissions risk causing dangerous levels of global warming."
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"The US, which is still on the UN list of the 187 that have ratified, began the procedure to withdraw from the accord in 2019 and will leave on 4 November this year. President Donald Trump doubts that greenhouse gas emissions risk causing dangerous levels of global warming."

https://www.climatechangenews.com/2020/08/13/countries-yet-ratify-paris-agreement/

"WASHINGTON — The Trump administration is expected on Wednesday to formally revoke California’s authority to set auto emissions rules that are stricter than federal standards, taking a major step forward in its wide-ranging attack on government efforts to fight climate change."

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/17/climate/trump-california-emissions-waiver.html

10/25/2020 10:02:06 am

Not Kent, are you completely tone deaf ?

"The gold is in the dark. And one does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light but by making the darkness conscious." ~ Carl Jung"

Thanks for wasting my time.
I tried but your misplaced American arrogance has put you beyond reason.

10/25/2020 06:26:16 pm

"Not Kent, are you completely tone deaf ?"

""The gold is in the dark. And one does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light but by making the darkness conscious." ~ Carl Jung"".

Hoo!

You know, Jim, now? You can set "bear-traps" with language?

I'm really good at it. Comes with "experience".

How's that paw feeling?

"Tone-Deaf"? That's really funny to me. I'm sort of a freak, when it comes to that. I play Japanese Shakuhachi, and Piano, and have fronted my own rock bands. I have "really good pitch"; wouldn't call it perfect.

Knew you would seek out the quote and quote the whole thing to try and make some point. Which you have not. 🙄

How would you suggest we struggle against making the "Darkness conscious"?

?

Other than by actively grabbing it by the throat?

Fucking Canada.

I love the concept of you Folks. But I don't like you very much, even though half my family is solidly Quebecois.

Yep. I'm a transplant. Sorry we can't enjoy the intense change together, Brother.

Anyhow, settle down. Enjoy the ride. We love you. Please send Donair.

❤️

10/25/2020 06:40:09 pm

Arrogance?

I've met your troopers in the field.

Well met. Fine men. Excellent, disciplined soldiers, and so polite.

Made a trade with one. A knife for a compass.

Life changing for me. Drives my career to this day.

God Bless Canada!

You, Jim, are a fantastic person.

Have a lovely Sunday!

❤️

Weatherman Obvious

10/25/2020 10:05:37 pm

Canada has been and continues to be a major contributor to global warming despite its small population. Even Canadian researchers have acknowledged that Canada is not meeting short-term or long-term goals for reducing its impact. That's not even considering Canada's consumption of imported products obtained from other major contributors to global warming. They may be making an effort but it isn't a very good one and does not provide them a moral high ground. Comparing yourself to the USA to try to look good on the global warming issue is like arguing that you don't beat your wife as often as the guy across the street.

10/26/2020 05:38:44 pm

Kentypoo Obvious, how silly you are! Hopefully some day you will be able to produce a sound argument rather than your usual pitiful spin like you have here.

Name any countries that are meeting their goals. It is a difficult process but at least the world is trying ,,,well except the US.
There are only 2 countries meeting their targets on the entire planet, Morocco and The Gambia, both are minor players but are turning the corner by implementing extensive renewable energy sources. India as well is at the top of the class.
It's too bad the US is intentionally lagging behind third world countries in energy technology.
"Costa Rica aims for its electricity production to be 100 percent renewable by 2021. It’s already extremely close: in 2018 it generated 98 percent of its electricity from renewable sources—primarily hydropower—for the fourth consecutive year."

Guess who is at the bottom of the scale,,, thats right the US.

"United States: Where to begin? CAT already ranked U.S. Paris targets as “insufficient.” With the Trump Administration’s ongoing hostility toward climate action, it now categorizes the country’s efforts as “critically insufficient,” their lowest ranking."

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2019/09/climate-change-report-card-co2-emissions/

The US is by far the largest contributor to the problem, with 4% of the worlds population they have accounted for 25% of the worlds greenhouse gasses.
Get your shit together.
You don't need coal, if the US has one resource in spades it is natural gas, (third largest reserves in the world) not the best answer but it is way cleaner than coal.
You have made some strides in this direction, not to save the planet but because it is economically way cheaper than coal.
This is the only reason that the US is not the worst transgressor and, since 2006 is second worst behind China. If China had your natural gas reserves you would still be the worst.
For Pete's sake it is now cheaper to produce electricity with solar and wind than it is with coal.

https://ourworldindata.org/uploads/2019/10/Cumulative-CO2-treemap-660x550.png

https://www.livescience.com/12-years-to-stop-climate-change.html

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/oct/08/global-warming-must-not-exceed-15c-warns-landmark-un-report

10/27/2020 12:12:32 pm

You are certainly well informed, Jim.

"A knife for a good compass."

Good trade! Love your passion.

The U.S.?

We'll continue to burn it to the ground til we get where we're going. You will all be dragged by the nose right to where we're getting to.

Planet does not mind. It encourages it. Arrogance?!

Weaker foolish countries should be shook up by the power we need to lead, and STFU as we do it.

Takes tremendous resources, which we will hog like, well, pigs.

Enjoy your back-bacon, beer and weed.

We rule.

❤️

Culture of consumption club

10/27/2020 01:53:18 pm

Canada's ranking as a global polluter is almost identical to, guess who, South Korea and Iran. Both nations have much larger populations. If you are a leading polluter like other nations and are not making progress relative to goals like other nations then you are like other nations and bitching about other nations is hypocritical. It is not a difficult concept to grasp unless you are looking for a boogey man to blame to try to absolve your own nation of its shortcomings.

10/27/2020 08:36:38 pm

You should go work for Trump.

10/27/2020 09:28:01 pm

Jim, or Jimmypoo as he would say if responding to himself, has already found (or manufactured?) his boogeyman. See his post of 10/24.

10/28/2020 09:32:25 am

Kent Manynames:

" It is not a difficult concept to grasp unless you are looking for a boogey man to blame to try to absolve your own nation of its shortcomings."

Lol,,,, hahahahaha, I hereby dub thee "King of Projection"

Jim:

"It is an anti- science Trump that must go, he is not only causing massive unnecessary death and destruction in the U.S., he is, for no other reasons other than stupidity, ignorance and a massive ego, causing the destruction of the entire planet.
The damages being done are not wholly evident to most, but make no mistake, the results of what Trump is doing to the environment will mostly be seen in the upcoming years and centuries."

Kent Manynames:

But, but, but,,,,, Canada this and Canada that and Iran this and South Korea that.

US = 25% the amount of total global CO2 emissions.
2X as much as China
8X as much as India
12.5X as much as Canada

Lets face it Kent Manynames,the only reason you introduced Canada into the conversation is because you have a bone to pick with me and I am Canadian.

Your logical fallacy is the appeal to hypocrisy.

" It is commonly employed as an effective red herring because it takes the heat off someone having to defend their argument, and instead shifts the focus back on to the person making the criticism."

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque

Charlie Sheen

10/28/2020 12:26:18 pm

Look on the bright side. Canada has always had a real inferiority complex about competing on the world stage. At least now they can brag about being a major player in level of contribution to global warming in terms of both relative numbers and absolute numbers.

Canada: 37 million people

South Korea: 51 million people

Iran: 81 million people

Despite their "efforts" the Canadians are matching or exceeding the outputs of much larger nations that wipe their rear ends with the environmental regulations.

You are finally WINNING!

10/28/2020 07:05:31 pm

So what Kent Manynames ?
Aren't you forgetting about the US with your data ? lol.
Great cherry picking of data though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIpalgoVi4U

Nice of you to compare Canada to an emerging nation like Iran lol, does Iran have a massive transportation infrastructure like Canada, lots of vehicles ? airlines ? manufacturing ? you know the things that most modern nations do or have that use lots energy.
Apples and oranges Kent Manynames, apples and oranges.
Other than China no country is currently worse than the US in producing greenhouse gasses.

US: Pop. ,,,,,,, 331,000,000
India pop. ,,,,,1380,000,000 (4X the US)

U.S, co2 emission total: 399 billion tons (25% of world total)
India, co2 emission total: 42 billion tons, (3% of world total)

Er,,,, that means the US has produced approximately 40X the amount of co2 than India per capita !
Sad, so sad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIpalgoVi4U

Of course Canada, South Korea and almost every other country in the World have joined the Paris Accord, but not the US.
Oh no, not the US, you pulled out, the US who has been the biggest contributor to this mess, and it"s not even close.
When we really need the world leader the US has always claimed to be, you have folded like a cheap Wallmart lawn chair.

Clean up the mess you made !

No one is saying Canada along with the rest of the world doesn't have work to do on this but we are at least trying, the same cannot be said about the worst transgressor on the planet, the US, under the soon to be deposed Grate Pumpkin.

Anyhoo, no point in debating with the likes of you, it's like having a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent. So long sucker.

10/28/2020 10:46:36 pm

"Anyhoo, no point in debating with the likes of you, it's like having a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent. So long sucker."

That's internet code for "be on the lookout for my next post" and it reminds me of one of those ad hominem argmyments Jimmypoo loves to google.

"In 2016, two out of three people (66%) lived within 100 kilometres of the southern Canada–United States border, an area that represents about 4% of Canada's territory. Many census metropolitan areas (CMAs) are located near the border, including Toronto, Montréal and Vancouver."

When you move out to 160 kilometers it's 90%.

You guys had your chance in the 19th century; could have joined up.

The spectacle never ends, in that respect our Jimmypoo is a self-made man. Once again I commend to you his post of 10/24.

10/29/2020 02:27:32 am

"You should go work for Trump."

Hahaha! Don't make yourself a target, Jim. K?

Another story for you. Talk about being "dragged by the nose"?

When I was a young trooper? I was dragged by my nose by an E6, down to a Battalion HQ, because I smarted off, in his presence, about Reagan. (?!).

It was likely a Saturday, but the foyer to BHQ is always open. He almost had to physically drag me down there to show me one thing.

On the wall? In the foyer? Was a series of framed photographs of our "Chain of Command".

Guess which frame was empty, Jim?

I was dragged down there, just to be shown that empty frame. Means everything to me. 👍

You have no idea. You data squabbling amateur.

We work for the "Frame".

❤️

Keep up with the shovel. You're a natural.

Greenpeace the frog

10/29/2020 10:45:33 am

Funny you mention the USA, China. And India. Canada gets over sixty percent of its imports from USA and China. Much of the remaining forty percent comes from places like India. A Canadian complaining about pollution from these nations is like a 300 pound couch potato blaming obesity on the Pizza Huts that deliver to his apartment. An apartment with only one resident that aactually generates more garbage than a lot of neighboring apartments with entire families living in them.

Bezalel

10/30/2020 12:40:21 am

Jim
Clearly you forget, or have yet to understand that most Americans are PROUD we are destroying the planet faster than any other but one.
Sprinting to the apocalypse.

We take the trumpian-slash-Rush Limbaugh view of science:
"science is just a bunch of theories concocted by liberal commies, so basically just another belief system"

Yeah
"my lack of education IS INTELLIGENCE!
"my idiocy is BRILLIANCE!"
"Academia is liberal fake news!"

'Mericah!

"My religion is YOU CANT GET MARRIED
"my religion is YOUR LACK OF FREEDOM
"The exact phrase "separation of church and state" is not in the constitution, so 40 years of Jefferson and Madison perfecting the precept is FAKE NEWS!

'Mericah!

Jim
So much to learn about 'Merican values...
Come down here and drink stupid from our fountain
Then you'll see

Doc rock

10/30/2020 03:31:23 pm

Trumpy is about to be sent packing back to reality TV land which will put a whole new paintjob on how people wil be discussing various topics by this time next year. I will have to keep a bottle of Absolut stashed in the suitcase when I go back to the farm for the holidays to help make it thru the right wing tirades at the dinner table.

In all fairness to those multitudes to the political right of me, I spend a lot of time around the flannel shirt and gun rack crowd in multiple states. But the only time I have heard terms like 'murica used is on SNL skits.

The Rooster

10/30/2020 11:04:13 pm

"...Mericah!".

That's a bad habit.

Our name is "America".

Say it along with me, "Ah-mer-i-Ka"

Surprising post from a fellow Thelemite.

93, Bez.

❤️

10/31/2020 10:49:04 am

Suicide: (Steppenwolf)

The spirit it was freedom and justice
And its keepers seemed generous and kind
Its leaders were supposed to serve the country
But now they won't pay it no mind

'Cause the people grew fat and got lazy
Now their vote is a meaningless joke
They babble about law and order
But it's all just an echo of what they've been told

The cities have turned into jungles
And corruption is stranglin' the land
The police force is watching the people
And the people just can't understand

Yeah, there's a monster on the loose
It's got our heads into the noose
And it just sits there watchin'

11/7/2020 10:19:57 pm

Feeling better, Jim?

😅😅😅

Have you read Steppenwolf?

Do you know what one is?

❤️

10/21/2020 11:22:35 am

[I’d also bought weed wax from a guy in a van in front of a taco shop, so it could have been the weed wax]

She's probably right. I don't know how she somehow makes this statement then doesn't realize how right she is.

Shane Sullivan

10/22/2020 01:45:57 pm

I guess she's really banking on "other people stopped their cars, therefore UFOs".

Which is fair, I suppose. I mean, have you ever stopped your car for any reason other than to look at aliens?

10/22/2020 06:43:32 pm

I don't brake for aliens,,,, but I would like some of whatever it is she was smoking !

10/22/2020 12:45:47 am

Graham Hancock on coasttocoastam Wednesday 10/21/2020.

10/22/2020 07:41:41 pm

Ha!

The whole "Taco Truck" piece?

Um? Weed and "wax" are now legal in CA.

No one in Palm Springs (nor in San Bernadoo County, nor in JTree) are buying "wax" off a "taco truck". Go look at WeedMaps. You can pick it up anywhere, between here and there.

The whole concept is silly. Like, Monty Python levels of silliness. I mean? I get it. Some folks want to remain in that pre-prohibition mind set because it gives them a feeling of being "shady". There is no more shade. Only an complete IDIOT would be buying wax off a taco truck.

I don't want to call it "virtue signaling", because it's something worse.

All I can say is? Isn't a relief we haven't heard from "Deep Prasad" in so long?

Scaredy Cat Little Bitch that he is.

Ha!

BONNIE

11/11/2020 10:01:35 pm

Miley Cyrus is (almost) 28. Recreational weed has been legal in CA for four years. MC didn't say when her "encounter" occurred. I don't see a problem with (that portion) of her statement.

11/14/2020 05:22:34 am

Well then.

Feel free to help yourself to some "taco-truck-wax"...

...there, "Evil Knievel".

Fuck.

❤️

Unreal.

EDWARD LOPEZ

10/29/2020 10:26:50 pm

Jason, you said: "However, as I researched the last act in the first wave of saucer material in the 1950s, when nuts-and-bolts ufology started to give way to contactees, I was surprised to learn that the government was infiltrating UFO enthusiast groups under the theory that they were Soviet fronts bent on subversion. What made this odd is that documents cited in every ufology book clearly reference this,"

Where do you get this crap from? I'm 82 and when I was 18 I served in the USAF and in 1956 I was transferred to Morocco where I befriended a captain pilot who introduced me to UFOs via a book he loaned me by George Adamski. When I returned to the U.S. I kept reading and started going to lectures. Tons of both. I was a UFO mag editor and attended the UFO presentation at the United Nations and have the photos to prove it. Etc., etc.

NEVER at any time did I read or heard anything as you claim. I can claim that I'm the only person to ever be expelled from a UFO lecture while surrounded by a cadre of supporters of "Dr." Frank E. Stranges, 8/1/86. The story appeared in the Daily News. I have a copy.

Jason Colavito link

10/30/2020 08:59:21 am

The documents make this rather plain. The CIA UFO documents and the Robertson Panel report both reference concerns about civilian UFO groups, with the former speaking of USAF efforts to investigate them for subversion. FBI documents detail sending agents into UFO group lectures and meetings to spy on happenings and report back. This isn't me making things up. It's written in black and white in official documents that the government itself declassified.

10/30/2020 09:33:10 am

I'm 82 and if the government had been doing that I would have been informed!

Sorry, but you fell for the Morocco Gambit, Gramps.

I tied an onion to my belt because that was the style at the time.

10/30/2020 04:20:12 pm

Your reply is typical for young, uninformed conspiracists that cannot make an intelligent reply. I've forgotten more about UFOs than you and Jason will ever remember. I was there from the beginning, I have a reputation for speaking the truth and what I wrote stands. YOU prove Jason and yourself free of bias.

10/31/2020 05:48:50 pm

In a world where when Copenhagen sneezes Singapore gets the jitters, bragging about how forgetful you are at 82 is an interesting strategy.

10/30/2020 10:54:02 pm

And I simply served in the 82nd at 18.

I'm sorry folks, to share this:

If you've never been engaged by "Psyops" in the field (cuz they have to practice somewhere)?

Yer talking out of the side of your neck.

Hands up! Who's been handed some of that gravy on a field problem? None of you?

K.

I set the bear-traps, Eddie. Got it?

Ghost of Paul Linebarger

11/1/2020 05:41:56 am

You say so.

11/1/2020 07:36:15 pm

I KNOW so.

What do you have to say about it?

?

❤️

11/3/2020 12:51:43 am

"..,at a boarding school in Hawaii he was blinded in his right eye,...".

Yes!

That's right. How did you know?

Feeling you. With my blind R eye.

❤️

Odin!!!

David

11/1/2020 09:24:33 am

Greer was a medical doctor who realised it was more profitable to take people’s wealth than care for their health. The evidence of alien contact he claims to have has been debunked on many occasions over the years. A photo of a moth was declared a “light being”; another blurry image of an insect was said to be an “energy anchor” transmitted from an overhead flying saucer; a tree branch he said was an intergalactic ambassador; the hotel lights on Tigertail Beach, Marco Island (photographed so the distant lights were above the heads of his group), were falsely claimed to be a fleet of ET craft summoned by their circa-$1000 fee meditation exercise. There’s even video footage of Greer taking people on board a landed flying saucer. The only issue is that the craft is invisible to all but Greer so he has to describe the interior of the craft to the fee-paying group who are trudging through the muddy field and looking about at nothing.

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