Well, this was a new one: For the first time, a government official issued a warning about an episode of America Unearthed. An article in the Centralia (Illinois) Morning Sentinel reported earlier this week (in print only, not online) that an Illinois state archaeology official asked viewers to exercise caution when evaluating claims about the alleged Egyptian artifacts of Burrows Cave, which Illinois considers a hoax. Illinois shouldn’t be too worried, though. While Wolter, in edited remarks, betrayed no doubt that the Burrows Cave artifacts were genuine in 2009’s Holy Grail in America he later went on record on his corporate website as declaring several Burrows Cave artifacts a “hoax.” However, if you believe his Akhenaten to the Founding Fathers (2013), despite “one absolute fake and likely three additional ones” he now says “a final conclusion … cannot be reached due to a lack of evidence” (p. 160).
Nevertheless, there is reason for some concern. America Unearthed chose not to disclose that its Burrows Cave “expert,” Harry Hubbard, is co-owner of Alexander Helios (formerly called Ptolemy Productions), an organization set up in the 1990s to financially exploit the Burrows Cave “mystery” (and that of competing nearby caves) across a series of media properties, including books, DVDs, on-demand video, etc., in which Hubbard claims that Alexander Helios, son of Cleopatra VII, brought Egyptian treasure to Illinois. He also the body of Alexander the Great rests in the caves. This financial conflict of interest really ought to have been disclosed since Hubbard stands to gain massively from national television exposure. But don’t take my word for it. Alexander Helios put out a press release directing viewers to its online shop and the variety of products available for purchase. At one point, Alexander Helios was attempting to sell allegedly “authentic” Illinois Caves Egyptian and Roman artifacts for prices ranging from $45,000 to $2.5 million. If the artifacts were genuine and retrieved after 1989, sale would be illegal under Illinois law (20 ILCS 3440) because the state forbids the removal of grave goods without a permit and Alexander Helios claims that the cave is Alexander Helios’ tomb, complete with skeleton. Today the company settles for selling Hubbard’s books for $10 a pop. Obviously, Hubbard can be relied upon to declare any Burrows Cave or “Egyptian” material authentic since it goes directly to his bottom line.
With that in mind, let’s spend a few minutes thinking about the role of Egypt in American history. As always, if you are familiar with the background, you are welcome to skip down to the “Episode” heading for the episode review.
Egypt in America
For the long shadow that Egypt casts over history, especially fringe history, it is somewhat surprising that Egypt is one of the least-invoked cultures said to have “discovered” and colonized America in ancient times. The reasons for this are twofold: First was a practical reason: Egypt was not known in the nineteenth century to have had a major seafaring tradition, and it was difficult to argue that they somehow developed ships capable of sailing the oceans without leaving behind a trace. This would change with the discovery in 1954 of full-sized ships buried near the Great Pyramid, and the subsequent discovery of seagoing vessels used for African coastal voyages.
The second reason was ideological: The most important claimants to America were the Lost Tribes of Israel, through whom America absorbed the mantle of Promised Land. To have Egyptians in America would be to ally the continent with Pharaoh, the biblical oppressor of Israel. Ideologically, this simply would not do in the eighteenth or nineteenth century, when allying one’s homeland with God was a key component of national identity. Egypt, like Babylon, was a place where God’s grace did not extent. Josiah Priest, one of the most popular early authors on the “ancient mystery” genre reached just this conclusion: America had been inhabited by a lost white race, probably the Lost Tribes of Israel—not Egypt.
This changed for a number of reasons as the nineteenth century wore on. First, Napoleon’s conquest of Egypt launched the French Egyptomania, which spread to Britain and to America. As Americans began importing mummies and Egyptian artifacts to fill museums and cabinets of curiosities (as Edgar Allan Poe described), the old civilization of Egypt took on an air of the romantic. By the end of the nineteenth century, a full-scale effort was underway to make Egypt acceptable to pious audiences. Adapting the myth of the Two Pillars found in Flavius Josephus, in which Seth’s children build a pillar of stone in Siriad (Egypt) (Antiquities of the Jews 1.2.3), Victorian scholars began to see in the Great Pyramid of Egypt a building created by Israelites to encode God’s plan, laying out mathematically the entire history of the earth.
The apex of this line of thought was Scottish astronomer Charles Piazzi-Smyth’s Our Inheritance in the Great Pyramid (1864), which reclaimed the Great Pyramid for the Abrahamic faiths through math and wishful thinking:
The Great Pyramid, a pre-historic and entirely pre-Mosaic monument, had remained sealed in all its more important divisions, from the date of its foundation up to an advanced period of the Christian dispensation; and was then found, on being opened and examined, entirely free from that accursed thing which formed the leprosy of the East in ancient days—idolatry.
In other words, a belief in the divine purpose of the pyramid could let good Christians enjoy Egyptian civilization without worry that they were endorsing Pharaoh.
As religious orthodoxy declined in the nineteenth century, especially after Darwin’s Origin of Species, Egypt began to loom ever larger. The nascent sciences of anthropology and archaeology adopted the idea of cultural evolution, and they looked to Egypt and to Mesopotamia as the first great civilizations. These cultures were quickly becoming not God’s enemies but the foundation of Western civilization itself.
The American congressman Ignatius Donnelly captured the trend well when he decided in his 1882 Atlantis: The Antediluvian World that the greatest ancient civilization, Atlantis, bequeathed its civilization to both the peoples of the Americas and to the peoples of the Old World—thus accounting for “Egyptian” elements in America, such as pyramids, hieroglyphs, and mythology: “the mythology of Egypt and Peru represented the original religion of Atlantis, which was sun-worship.” In so doing, Donnelly proposed a connection between the Americas and Egypt that allowed for Egyptian-style influence without the need for actual Egyptians. This was a step up from Josiah Priest, who proposed that Atlantis had been the land bridge that let the Hebrews walk to America.
It was from the Atlantis story that modern claims for Egyptians in America indirectly emerged, influenced strongly by the Egyptomania spawned by the discovery of King Tut’s tomb in 1922 and the subsequent use of Egyptian motifs in Art Deco design. Shortly after, the “sleeping prophet,” Edgar Cayce, claimed to have been an Egyptian priest named RaTa in a previous life, and this RaTa was, just as in Donnelly, a worshipper only of the sun and, as in Piazzi-Smyth, the architect of the Great Pyramid as part of God’s plan. RaTa apparently revealed that the original records of Atlantis could be found in Egypt and America: “And in the temple records ...in Egypt... Also the records that were carried to what is now Yucatan in America...” (session 440-5, September 8, 1935). It astonishes me how believers ignore that Cayce’s description of Atlantean life is so clearly derived from Victorian fringe history, Freud’s Moses and Monotheism, and other obvious sources. RaTa is essentially Akhenaten filtered through Theosophy.
But the real push to find Egyptian antiquities in America came after zoologist Barry Fell started an epic quest to identify scratch marks around the world as evidence of a Greco-Egyptian circumnavigation of the world by a sailor named Maui and Eratosthenes during the reign of Ptolemy III Euergetes in 232 BCE. His “discovery” of scratches in Indonesia that he tied to Maui led him to search for other ancient voyages, culminating in America B.C. (1976), his epic of how scratch marks worldwide show that Europeans of every shade of white civilized the non-white parts of the world: Phoenicians, Greeks, Irish, and many more. Fell’s work fed back into Cayce’s, and some confused fringe historians today misidentify RaTa as the voyager of 232 BCE.
By this point, the religious stigma of Egypt had fallen away, and as a result of countless mid-century fringe history and ancient astronaut writers like Erich von Däniken, Egypt was now an “ancient mystery” and the target of mystery-mongering authors, the ultimate source of high technology, lost magical powers, and esoteric truth. It was in this context that shortly after the 1970s fringe history craze a series of fake antiquities that seemingly confirmed every aspect of America B.C. started to emerge from Burrows Cave in Illinois beginning in 1982. That the Burrows Cave artifacts were fake was so obvious that even Barry Fell himself confirmed that one was in fact a poor copy of an illustration from America B.C., complete with Fell’s own transcription error!
Scott Wolter has long been interested in Burrows Cave, and he discussed the site in his first Committee Films/History Channel production, Holy Grail in America (2009). I’ve written about it before, and I will reprint that discussion below, in slightly edited form:
The so-called Burrows Cave is an “ancient” site that dates all the way back to 1982, when Russell Burrows began hawking artifacts in a faux-Egyptian art style that he claimed to have found in an Illinois cave. When investigators from the Early Sites Research Society tried to pin down the location of the cave and its supposed wonders, they came up empty-handed. Burrows refused to tell anyone where the cave is, despite regularly producing phantasmagorical new “artifacts” in a range of ancient art styles. Thousands of such artifacts appeared, and Burrows asserted that $60 million in gold was buried in the cave, which he worried that the Illinois state government would “steal” from him, prompting him to claim to have dynamited the cave entrance in 1989.
Investigators found evidence that the Burrows Cave hoax had ties to Mormon cult archaeology, and some fringe groups suggested that the objects were the fabled Temple Treasure of Solomon, lost when Nebuchadnezzar invaded Jerusalem in 568 BCE. This aligned with Mormon claims that Jews fled Jerusalem and came to America. Among supporters of this view is the convicted neo-Nazi pedophile Frank Joseph (a.k.a. Frank Collin), who edited articles about the cave in his magazine Ancient American with funding from Mormon extremists. Ancient American also published some of Scott Wolter’s only non-self-published reports using his “new science” of archaeopetrography. Another supporter of this view is Arnold Murray, a Christian extremist, who believes that the British were some of the Lost Tribes of Israel and therefore Anglo-Saxons in America are God’s chosen people, and America His chosen kingdom.
Other fringe writers differed from the Mormon/Evangelical-influenced view, however, concocting a conspiracy whereby the Knights Templar found the treasure buried in Jerusalem while headquartered on the Temple Mount and spirited it away to America after the suppression of their order in 1307. The treasure was meant to be the patrimony for a new state, one celebrating the “sacred feminine” and ruled by the Bloodline of Christ, a state represented by the Kensington Rune Stone, the major land claim to the entire Mississippi watershed.
Here’s how the story played out in Holy Grail in America:
Narrator: Legend says the cave lies somewhere along a branch of the Little Wabash River in Illinois, in an area known as Little Egypt.
It is interesting that in 2009 producers Maria and Andy Awes maintained enough journalistic sense to present the mainstream point of view, while Wolter (in the edited remarks shown in the program) betrayed not a hint of doubt that the obviously fake material was anything but legitimate. (Wolter would later revise his opinion after discovering evidence of a hoax.) Note, though, that Burrows Cave was attributed in this documentary to an unnamed “legend” rather than the actual facts to give it a patina of age and mystery it does not deserve.
The "Egyptian" Grand Canyon Cave
Against this rather straightforward progression of fringe ideas about Egyptian voyages to America is the story of the Grand Canyon cave where modern legend imagines that the Egyptians had some sort of magical tomb, temple, or base. This story was the subject of one of the very first skeptical articles I ever wrote, back in 2002, and nothing has changed any of the conclusions that were already obvious back then.
The story begins in March of 1909 when on a newspaper called the Arizona Gazette began recording the adventures of an explorer called G. E. Kinkaid. On April 5, 1909 it published under the headline “Explorations in the Grand Canyon” the story of how a Smithsonian scholar named S. A. Jordan and an adventurer named G. E. Kinkaid had found a series of caves in the Grand Canyon stuffed with artifacts of no certain provenance and room for 50,000 (!) people. I have of course placed the full text of the article in my Library.
The article is and remains a hoax, not dissimilar to the great Moon Hoax of 1835, Mark Twain’s Petrified Man hoax of 1862, or, more closely still, the Atlantis hoax of 1912, when William Randolph Hearst’s New American ran a two page “report” about an archaeologist’s discovery of proof of Atlantean influence on ancient cultures worldwide. We’ll look into the characters involved more below, but suffice it to say that 1909 was in the middle of a period of rampant hoaxing, what by some accounts was the heyday of hoaxing. In 1899, reporters from four Denver newspapers hoaxed the claim that American businesses were bidding for the right to demolish the Great Wall of China. In October 1899 McClure’s Magazine published a story claiming that a live wooly mammoth had been found and killed. The magazine had to apologize that it wasn’t labeled as clearly as it could have been that it was fictional after readers complained to the Smithsonian about the death of the last mammoth. In 1909, Wallace Tillinghast hoaxed a super-advanced airplane that supposedly could travel 120 miles per hour.
More darkly, the Russian government hoaxed the anti-Semitic Protocols of the Elders of Zion in 1903, and someone—it’s still not known for certain who—faked the Piltdown Man skull in 1912, impacting scientific understanding of evolution for four decades.
The Arizona Gazette article, backed by no contemporary documentation, very clearly falls in line behind its more famous contemporaries. This becomes still clearer when we look at other troubling signs. The article never quotes S. A. Jordan, and it mistakenly calls the Smithsonian Institution the “Smithsonian Institute.” No records document the existence of S. A. Jordan, G. E. Kinkaid, or any Smithsonian expedition to the Grand Canyon in 1909. (There was a real S. A. Jordon—note the spelling—but he was a European field archaeologist.)
While fringe writers see this as proof of a conspiracy, the Smithsonian itself has repeatedly fielded questions about the 1909 article. In 2000, the Smithsonian wrote in response to one inquiry from the old Sightings website:
The Smithsonian Institution has received many questions about an article in the April 5, 1909 Phoenix Gazette about G. E. Kincaid and his discovery of a 'great underground citadel' in the Grand Canyon, hewn by an ancient race 'of oriental origin, possibly from Egypt.' According to the article, Prof. Jordan directed a major investigation of the 'citadel' that was mounted by the Smithsonian.
Note the peculiar phrase in quotation marks. It will come up again.
The Smithsonian gave a nearly identical reply to Jack Andrews in 1999.
Contrary to modern claims that the cave system described in the article was the work of Egyptians, the article suggested that its closest connection was to the Tibetans, in keeping with Theosophical ideas about the mysterious East. Consider the ancient statue supposedly found in the caves: “The idol almost resembles Buddha, though the scientists are not certain as to what religious worship it represents. Taking into consideration everything found thus far, it is possible that this worship most resembles the ancient people of Tibet.” The article has Kinkaid tell readers that the cave was filled with objects like those from “oriental” (i.e. Asian) temples and Malay-style figures.
At no point does the article ever claim that the caves are Egyptian. That connection comes from confusion over a few lines of the article, where the writer tries to use Hopi myths about the tribe’s origin in an underground civilization to suggest, as Theosophy had done, that a lost civilization from Asia or Atlantis was the origin point for both Egypt and the Native American cultures:
Egypt and the Nile, and Arizona and the Colorado will be linked by a historical chain running back to ages which staggers the wildest fancy of the fictionist. […] There are two theories of the origin of the Egyptians. One is that they came from Asia; another that the racial cradle was in the upper Nile region. [German historian Arnold Hermann Ludwig] Heeren [1760-1842], an Egyptologist, believed in the Indian origin of the Egyptians. The discoveries in the Grand Canyon may throw further light on human evolution and prehistoric ages.
Heeren was not an Egyptologist, though as an early nineteenth-century historian of antiquity he did speculate on the ancient Vedic origins of Egypt, in keeping with the then-popular theory that India was the cradle of the Aryan race and thus the oldest civilization on earth.
The author of the newspaper article is trying to imply that the cave was a prehistoric relic of the lost civilization that gave rise to Egypt and the Americas—that the Native Americans were the degenerate remains of a once noble Asian civilization. This is entirely in keeping with turn of the twentieth century speculation about the origins of Native Americans and the longstanding belief that Native peoples were degenerate, decayed, and doomed to cultural extinction.
Modern fringe writers, ignorant of the historical context, misread this as suggesting that the Egyptians had occupied the Grand Canyon caves. This is not at all what the obviously more educated hoaxer intended. That hoaxer was trying to fabricate evidence for a Theosophy-style lost civilization that spawned both Egyptians and Native American cultures from a heartland in central Asia, then believed to be the oldest civilized area on earth, in keeping with early claims for the antiquity of Sanskrit, the presumed language of the most ancient Aryans.
This hoax was not interesting enough for other newspapers to pick up, probably because it was so easily disproved with a simple telegram to the Smithsonian. It languished until David Hatcher Childress dug it up and published a discussion of it in Lost Cities of North and Central America, which was reprinted in Nexus magazine in 1993.
Childress misread the article and announced that the inhabitants of the cave were Egyptian—and that the Smithsonian was engaged in a cover-up, even though to confirm it he did nothing more than call the switchboard. He talked to a staff archaeologist who denied the story, and he concluded that this suggested a conspiracy:
Is the idea that ancient Egyptians came to the Arizona area in the ancient past so objectionable and preposterous that is must be covered up? Perhaps the Smithsonian Institution is more interested in maintaining the status quo than rocking the boat with astonishing new discoveries that totally overturn the previously accepted academic teachings.
Childress claimed as evidence two “facts”: First, he said that the Grand Canyon was filled with Hindu and Egyptian place names, which he believed were used to signal the true history of the caves. Second, he claimed that the government forbids all public access to the “Egyptian” areas of the Grand Canyon. As it happens, in the 1880s (before the newspaper hoax) the U.S. Geological Survey tried mapping the Grand Canyon and, having run out of local names, the surveyors used names from Greek, Roman, Germanic, Egyptian, and Hindu mythology. A known individual—Capt. Dutton—began using the Hindu and Egyptian names because he found Native American names “ugly.” Other members of the Survey team disagreed violently, and there were many arguments before the names were finally officially accepted in 1923 simply through inertia. (Some were still angry about it decades later!) The “Egyptian” area of the canyon is open to tourists, with the caveat that there is little water and few trails, so it is recommended only for experienced hikers. The only area closed to the public under any circumstances is Furnace Flats (AG9), an unstable archaeological site with masonry. Limited other areas, mostly access roads, are also off limits.
As should be obvious, the 1909 Arizona Gazette hoaxer took the Tibetan and Egyptian inspiration for the article from the pre-existing Hindu and Egyptian place names applied by chance to the canyon two decades earlier.
After a pirated copy of Childress’s article was published online on May 8, 1993 with a directive to repost and share, the story became a staple of fringe history. David Icke, among others, adopted the tale of the cave for his The Biggest Secret: “My own research suggests that it is from another dimension, the lower fourth dimension, that the reptilian control and manipulation is primarily orchestrated.” He further claimed that the Freemasons hold dark rites in the cave to honor the reptilians. In so doing, he originated the phrase “oriental or possibly Egyptian origin” to describe the caves, which you will recognize from the Smithsonian’s statement. (See, I told you it would pop up again!)
Weirdly enough, all of this ended up tying back to Edgar Cayce when 1990s-era writers began to speculate that John Ora Kinnaman, a maverick archaeologist who sought to validate Cayce’s prophecies, had provided proof of the caves’ existence. In the 1950s, Kinnaman tried to prove that the Great Pyramid was 35,000 years old and claimed that a giant crystal under the pyramid allowed the Egyptians to send instant telepathic messages to the Grand Canyon. For 1990s writers, this became “evidence” that Kinnaman knew of the Grand Canyon “find” but conveniently failed to mention it. Kinnaman also claimed to have found the Atlantean Hall of Records, which housed the Ark of the Covenant. Does Scott Wolter know about this?
As always, not a shred of evidence exists that this cave ever had a physical reality.
We open with an oral account of the discovery of Burrows Cave in heavily processed video made to look grainy, as though pirated. In archival footage Russell Burrows (who no longer speaks to Scott Wolter) describes the artifacts from his cave as Egyptian as the on-screen graphics state in a disarmingly direct way that the objects found in cave are real and (in passive voice) are believed to come from Egypt. The graphics tell us that Burrows won’t say where the artifacts come from, and then we’re off to the opening credits.
At the South Rim of the Grand Canyon Scott Wolter tells us about all the caves in America that hide remarkable treasures that “are just waiting to be found,” including the Ark of the Covenant and the Holy Grail. He tells us that ancient Egyptian riches vanished from now-empty tombs and (instead of, say, being melted down by ancient tomb robbers) may have come to America, and therefore he’s looking for ancient Egyptian remains in the Grand Canyon. This bothers me because the original article from the April 5, 1909 Arizona Gazette (discussed above) has nothing to do with the Egyptians but was attributed to lost ancestral race related to the Tibetans. You can even hear Wolter read aloud that the people migrated “from the Orient” in the article, and Egypt is not the Orient. He calls the paper the Phoenix Gazette even though the paper itself lists its title as the Arizona Gazette.
The show gets a summary of the article from Jerry Wills, whom it describes as a Grand Canyon explorer. He is instead a medical intuitive and energy healer—in short, a New Ager. He believes that by laying hands on sick people he can reconstruct their broken bodies and awaken them from comas. He says he can cure blindness, cancer, and AIDS. He says on his website this is God working through him and claims that Fox News has documented his work performing “miracles” for more than a decade. Wolter explains that the Smithsonian denies that the article is true, but he sniffs that this may be evidence of a conspiracy. Wills plans to take Wolter to the site his wife, another New Age healer, claims is where the Smithsonian explored the site. Wills claims that government “stealth helicopters” followed him as he searched for the cave. Wolter says that he won’t be scared off by the government.
We then go to commercial.
Returning, we get a recap of what hasn’t happened so far. Wolter summarizes the wealth of Egypt but fails to remind viewers that the 1909 article he’s investigating isn’t about Egypt. In fact, he explicitly misstates the content of the article, asserting that it claims an Egyptian origin for the tomb that simply does not exist. The article says it is a Native site with art similar to Tibetan sculpture. He says that the “reward is too great” to be intimidated by the government.
Wolter plans to ask the Zuni for information about the Egyptian tombs, and he speaks with Clifford Mahooty, a Zuni elder and ancient astronaut theorist currently working the fringe science conference circuit and a friend of David Childress. This is the first Native American ever to appear on America Unearthed. Mahooty tells Wolter that the Zuni believe in passages and canyons within the Grand Canyon, but here Mahooty is telling Wolter not actual Native American lore but rather stories derived from the alternative/fringe history literature! It’s rather depressing to see that Mahooty has simply absorbed Childress’s ideas and is regurgitating them under the name of Native lore, mixing them freely with the underworld of pre-1993 documented Zuni myth. Here, for your edification, are documented Zuni myths collected by the Smithsonian (and thus the conspiracy!) before Childress created the modern myth of the Grand Canyon tomb. Oh, the Zuni also believe the underground people were strange Lovecraftian reptile-monsters.
Wills shows Wolter video of planes buzzing an expedition to the alleged Egyptian cave, and Wolter suggests that it was the government trying to scare them off. Funny, it was “helicopters” before the commercial break, but now it’s small planes. Consistency must not be a gift from the divine healing power Wills channels. Wolter and Wills fly to the cave location in a helicopter, and Wolter is angry that “the government” in the form of the FAA does not allow helicopters to descend below the Grand Canyon rim, as though he didn’t know that before going up. These flight rules he is angry about were proposed in 1996, adopted in 2000, and were officially put into effect in 2012 to prevent noise pollution, over the objection of amateur pilots groups. The rules were required by law following action by Sen. John McCain in 1987 after a plane and helicopter crashed into each other in the canyon the previous year, killing 25 people. It took 25 years for the legally-required rules to be written and imposed, hardly the mark of a powerful conspiracy. In short: No aircraft in the canyon to (a) prevent crashes and (b) stop noise pollution.
After the break, Wolter and Wills leave the helicopter on the edge of the canyon above the spot where the alleged cave supposedly sits. Wolter claims that the government is “hiding” something, and he calls the low-flying plane, seen in old, pre-rules video as proof of government conspiracy. The Grand Canyon has, and I am not making this up, 57,000 flights over and through it each year. Guess what: It was a tourist plane flying under the old pre-2012 rules.
Wolter says that while he’s sure the government is hiding something, the cave can’t be accessed, so he (a) wasted our time, (b) asserted a conspiracy he can’t prove, and (c) completely misreported the contents of the 1909 article to assert an Egyptian influence that the article does not support.
Wolter then moves on the Burrows cave, where he meets Harry Hubbard. The show, as I noted above, fails to note Hubbard’s financial conflict of interest, describing him only as an “artifact hunter,” not as the co-owner of a company designed to financial exploit the site. Hubbard shows Wolter fake artifacts that he claims are “reproductions” of original pieces from the Burrows cave. They are laughably bad forgeries that resemble no known Egyptian artifacts. Many are childlike in their crudeness. Hubbard says that the cave has one female corpse and the corpses of thirteen kings.
We then get another commercial.
After the break the on-screen graphics tell us that Egyptian treasure “could be” in the Grand Canyon or Illinois. Wolter tells Hubbard that the artifacts that Russell Burrows showed him were fakes, and after this Burrows refused to speak to Wolter. Wolter plays archival footage he shot of Burrows in 2010 in which Burrows describes finding the cave. Hubbard explains that Burrows tells a different story about the cave each time he tells it, but nevertheless he thinks the artifacts are real (as we would expect of someone with a huge financial stake in the story).
Wolter breaks down why the Burrows Cave “Isis Stone” was a fake: It’s carved on a used American tombstone. But, he says, fakery doesn’t prove that the unknown cave itself is fake. He shows us an “Egyptian shaman” and a cartouche, both carved on black stones. Neither looks at all like an Egyptian artifact of any known provenance. They’re forgeries.
Hubbard shows us Alexander Helios scratched into a flat stone in a crude caricature unfit for any real Hellenistic artist. This fellow was the son of Cleopatra VII and Mark Antony, and Hubbard and Wolter speculate that Alexander Helios fled the Mediterranean with Egypt’s treasure (at age 10!) to come to America to escape Octavian (soon to be Augustus) as he conquered Egypt. The fact is that Alexander Helios didn’t “disappear” under Octavian’s conquest of Egypt. He was taken to Rome and paraded through the streets. According to Cassius Dio’s Roman History (51.15.6), he was pardoned, but he was almost certainly kept under Roman control, as were all political prisoners. While we cannot prove this definitively, it was typical Roman practice to keep a pardoned ex-royal under house arrest in a palace in Rome. How would Alexander have been fleeing persecution by Octavian if he had just been pardoned? History records no more of Alexander Helios, and modern historians suspect that he died not long after, possibly on Octavian’s orders. Had he escaped, anti-imperial, pro-Senate historians would have mentioned such a humiliation of the first Roman emperor.
As we head to another commercial, Hubbard and Wolter make plans to visit the Alexander Helios cave, which is apparently separate from the Burrows Cave, using a “secret” treasure map. The land owner, Stephen Weilbacher, refuses to let Hubbard on his property, which is something I’d like to know more about. But alas, we instead get Wolter bullying a skeptical Weilbacher, forcing him to listen to Wolter loudly assert the reality that Alexander Helios “disappeared” from history and came to Illinois in the first century BCE.
Wolter and Weilbacher march into the woods in search of the cave, and Wolter repeats that Burrows’s hoaxing and fabrication calls into question his alleged discovery. The two men find a natural rock shelter, and he asks if it is possible to descend while the cameraman is standing below in the shelter filming him. Wolter notes that a rock shelter is not a cave, but he says he isn’t ready to give up on the idea that ancient Egyptian dug tombs around here somewhere. Wolter tests the rocks and determines it is “possible” that the Egyptian carved “caves” and filled them with treasure. He neglects to note that this method also “proves” that it is “possible” that space aliens, Knight Templar, or anyone else could have done the same. Not a single trace of anything Egyptian was found.
Weilbacher expresses skepticism and notes that the area and culture around Cairo, Illinois uses fanciful Egyptian names, probably inspiring Burrows. Wolter refuses to accept this and aggressively asserts that there is an “astounding truth” that the government is covering up. (By naming the city for an Islamic-era Egyptian city?) He produced absolutely zero evidence of anything and concludes with a conditional tense assertion that ancient tomb-caves “could” exist and a declarative statement that the “geology” allows for such constructions, thus eliding the conditional and the declarative to make viewers think he found something he did not.
12/28/2013 04:33:23 pm
My first thought while watching this was so someone or a group of people claim to know where a cave is that could hold millions (billions?) of dollars worth of artifacts was and they tried to get to it once but it was hard so poopy I guess we will never try again... Seriously? And then for Wolter to show up and claim to be someone who wants to prove that America has long, long been inhabited by other cultures to not even give it one tiny shot to get to the cave to me proves how fake this show is. If Wolter was that concerned and set in his mission, he could have found some expert, advanced rock climbing/repelling people to give it a shot to go down there. Or, hell, I don't know, maybe go to the opposite side of the canyon with a high powered looking device of some sort to see if he could even see a cave.
12/29/2013 10:22:01 am
the site and artifacts are for real. i know this for a fact.
12/30/2013 03:50:33 am
One of the items was obviously made from an old grave stone. Anyone can see that the hoaxer carelessly left a few letters on the back. That hoaxed item, included with the others, renders all the items suspicious. Explain the use of a fairly modern gravestone in making one of the objects. I would think that this Burrows fellow either had a great sense of humor, or else an evil streak, or possibly both...he doesn't seem to be on the level. God be the judge, if the courts won't do the job.
2/11/2014 04:04:37 am
Why is the government protecting this cave in the Grand Canyon? Why won't they let professionals in to see what is there? What is the harm of letting it be known that there are artifacts there?
12/29/2013 10:23:15 am
the site and artifacts are for real. i know this for a fact.
12/30/2013 12:44:36 pm
12/30/2013 02:18:49 pm
geo dowser, see my comment down later in this thread. to J. A. Dickey.
11/27/2014 09:58:43 pm
I know this for a fact as well. My grandpa found the cave and kept some artifacts. They are in his garage. I can't show them because the government would get mad. We have a mummy and an early Egyptian plasma rifle. It runs on figs. We used it to blast out a hole for my swimming pool. You can read about it all in my upcoming book "Egyptians of Camden New Jersey: The early Years". Visit my website and get an official replica an artifact.
6/7/2018 08:34:40 am
12/29/2013 10:23:55 am
the site and artifacts are for real. i know this for a fact.
12/31/2013 01:21:00 am
I am on a quest for rest of the remains of Paul Bunyon and Babe the blue Ox...I found bones in the state park and I am convinced they are authentic...but the park "government" is shutting down our search for the truth there. The Smithsonian refuses to send a crew to help me too. I am sure there is treasure that Paul collected thru the years and it is there waiting to be found. I will call Scott on this
3/19/2015 01:58:07 pm
I believe you and I want to go with you.
12/29/2013 10:25:08 am
the site and artifacts are for real. i know this for a fact.
12/29/2013 12:11:22 pm
No questions, no debate. Just accept your word without proof? Please provide proof of this historic find.
12/31/2013 12:03:19 am
12/29/2013 03:48:04 pm
Could this show and Ancient Aliens meet and combine efforts... Like Growing Pains and Just The Ten Of Us...Yo Coach!
1/12/2014 05:39:21 pm
America Unearthed and Wolter are so far disappointing in their conclusions. The results of this episode are that someone could have dug a hole at sometime and buried something. I hope that future episodes are more conclusive and more interesting.
1/20/2014 08:23:33 am
Or simply send a drone down with a camera on it... Wolter doesnt even seem to try at times. Like the pyramids in the lake on saturdays episode, he could have gotten the gps from the local lake society.
10/13/2014 11:29:00 pm
If you want the truth go to FALLING INTO BURROWS CAVE BY RICHARD FLAVIN, i found this after minutes of research. Far more interesting than the hoax itself.
8/25/2015 10:18:11 am
NO.....don't you see? It's IMPOSSIBLE!!! The guys who tried - armchair friends of the new-ager on the show got VERY TIRED!! 800 feet!!! It's over TWICE that. LOL
12/28/2013 04:34:59 pm
I'd sure like to see the video footage left on the "cutting room floor" from the interviews from the likes of Weilbacher.
12/29/2013 10:19:00 am
Exactly. I wonder what it's like shamelessly promoting and pretending to get angry about things you don't believe in for money. Is Wolter's self-esteem really so low he needs to stoop to selling out his own credibility in the hopes the producers will give more airtime to his pet theories?
12/29/2013 01:22:20 pm
Clint, not to dog pile the guy, but I'm not sure how many of his own pet theories he believes. I mean, he likes and approves of the the Freemasons and their noble conspiracy, but he seeks to expose them for all the world to see? Either he doesn't really believe in the conspiracy, or he doesn't really like the Masons.
12/31/2013 01:25:52 am
It is just about the money. Every episode gets nuttier ....funny except it feeds into the " hate your evil government"... Assault on reason..expertise..preference for "gut check" instead of the work of study. This is a dangerous path that this old lady has watched really spread in America. Shows like this with wide viewing spread that stupidity faster than the print media of earlier times. Sad
3/2/2014 06:33:19 am
Haha, I love when he pretends to get mad and starts to curse. Hilarious TV.
12/28/2013 05:55:58 pm
I really just dont get it how the History channel is willing to lose so much credibility airing nonsense like America Unearthed. I mean hello??? how can it be that some of histories greatest mysteries/legends that have perplexed so many proven experts and learned scholars for centuries but now one guy has all the answers - and all within just the last year or 2? Really??? When Wolter golfs does he drain 18 hole-in-ones?? I know Im speaking the obvious here in a way and I guess Im just venting but really, how stupid do they think we are? So the Ark is in America, along w the Holy Grail, Viking and Templar writings, treasures, and land markers, Egyptian treasures....did I leave anything out?? When Wolter is arguing w his critics why doesnt anyone just flat out ask him about this?
12/29/2013 12:45:33 am
They know how stupid we collectively are, that's the problem. And no, History Channel is not better than this.
12/29/2013 04:04:52 am
"I really just dont get it how the History channel is willing to lose so much credibility airing nonsense like America Unearthed..."
2/7/2014 03:58:44 pm
History Channel was awesome in the beginning, then the best ratings they got were stories about Hitler, then it was theories about him, then the occult, then Ancient Aliens and Pawn Stars got huge ratings, then they try to expand or replicate those shows with big ratings to draw revenue and THAT'S how you end up with America Unearthed. It's all about money and not "History" or "Evidence". ...happened before...MTV used to show music videos..
3/2/2014 06:39:16 am
I do think shows like this, and Ancient Aliens, etc. are hilarious and entertaining, but it is a shame that it is coming at the cost of actual educational programming about history. I think they last time they tried was the Dark Ages, which they promoted the hell out of, but it was a big disappointment. With just my undergrad history degree, I could see how many facts and much of the timeline they got wrong. They are clearly only interested in producing entertainment.
12/28/2013 11:53:06 pm
I guess the one positive I take from this series is that it makes me appreciate the natural beauty and diversity of different parts of the country. Not much of an endorsement for its content, I know.
12/29/2013 12:18:49 am
Even government black copters won't frighten him off. Such a manly man.
12/29/2013 12:57:26 am
I watched season 1 with guarded interest. Found it as something to pass the time. This episode really left me feeling like I just wasted an hour of my life. Complete garbage....I mean the entire episode was more laughable than usual, with the possible exception of the giants episode in MN a few weeks back. I would also like to know more about why the landowner at the end of the hour would not let the other individual onto his land, my guess is there is some kind of restraining order because he would chop up the natural beauty of the area in search of some junk that is completely bogus. I love archeology and American hisrory but whoever signed off on this show at the history channel is seriously off their rocker.
12/29/2013 01:10:47 am
Oh, and do not get me started on the ridiculous idea of a pyramid being inside a cave in the middle of the Grand Canyon which is also large enough for 50K ppl.
12/29/2013 01:17:12 am
It usually takes me a couple of commercial breaks in America Unearthed before my mind starts recognizing all the red flags popping up in the show's contents but last night's episode was like watching a Soviet May Day parade from start to finish. From those opening flashes of obviously faked Egyptian artifacts to Scott examining sandstone so brittle that any attempt to carve a tunnel into it would lead to instant collapse, this episode had the flimiest basis of all the myths the series has so far examined. I didn't dislike the show entirely, though: I thought his helpicopter pilot was pretty cute, and I enjoyed the interview with the Zuni tribal elder, which I think you, Jason, might have forced the producers' hands in putting on the air. Maybe we'll see more Native Americans appearing in future episodes giving their takes on these claims.
That crazy hair guy
12/29/2013 01:36:46 am
Hey that chopper pilot was very attractive. Let's get her in more episodes,
12/29/2013 01:39:20 am
That's the problem with using a half-formed claim from a David Childress book and a David Icke book: There's no history to it. Worse, Wolter didn't even READ the actual "historical" source and went instead with Childress's misunderstanding of it.
8/25/2014 06:55:04 pm
PLEASE SEE COMMENT AT BOTTOM OF PAGE
12/29/2013 01:33:51 am
Why did I watch this episode? Scott goes. To the Grand Canyon and talks about a supposed cave. Scott flies over said canyon. Nice video of the canyon. Hey Scott why not send a small drone to find the cave? Scott. Goes to Illinois and looks at bad art. Some nice footage of streams and rocks in the woods. The first sane person on the show since that gut in the Roanoke episode tells Scott hoe implausible his theories are. End of episode. Maybe I watch the show for the camerawork. Nice vistas of. Places. Or maybe I need to get a life.
12/29/2013 01:36:17 am
The camera work and cinematography on America Unearthed have been consistently excellent. I wish the camera people had jobs shooting scenery for better shows.
12/29/2013 02:59:17 am
The film work is good. My son who wants to go into film production watches the show for cinematography pointers. He is a junior and we are looking at film schools. We live in western ny and he is looking at your old stomping grounds Jason, Ithaca and Rochester institute of technology. The way tuition has inflated is total sticker shock. Maybe he should produce a documentary on aliens and Joseph smith as we live down the road from hill comorah
12/29/2013 03:03:55 am
I agree; and the shows are as consistently nonsensical as the camera work is excellent. I guess there are only so many new artifacts to look into.
12/30/2013 11:37:02 pm
For those of you who enjoy the production design of America Unearthed, there's a new article about how it's done quickly with computer-aided coloring.
1/2/2014 03:24:45 am
Will using the Davinci will hep speed up the process one can get the same product using Magic Bullet Lut Buddy. The DaVinci systems are great but are very expensive. Someone learning can easily afford the $49 dollars a month using Adobe CC suite and Premiere Pro. Plus Premiere will run on any system and does not require proprietary hardware.
12/29/2013 01:37:42 am
Is everyone's notify of new comments by email working? Mine suddenly isn't.
12/29/2013 03:21:30 am
Wolter needs to spend less time watching and rewatching Nicholas Cage movies, and spend more time doing a real geologist's job. Leave archeology to the experts.
12/29/2013 03:54:55 am
I had a real hard time believing they never told the very attractive pilot Heather what they're intentions were before they took off. Do you suppose it was a way to get her some air time?i also have a hard time believing the claim that you need huge amounts of water in order to descend down the mountain. How about this clever idea. Descend the water down to were your going first.
Question for anyone - How do you think claims like Egyptians in the Grand Canyon will impact Scott Wolter's image among established academics in archaeology and history? There was a time when he wanted to be respected by them. It would seem he has totally given up on even being noticed by the scientific community. If, like a blind squirrel finding a nut, he stumbled upon something worth a closer look, it would be instantly trashed instead because of the source. OK, I guess I've told you what I think. What do you think?
12/29/2013 07:37:21 am
In answer to your question...it probably won't do any more damage than his support of other far-fetched hypotheses. It may be, as it applies to Wolter, par for the course.
12/29/2013 04:22:42 am
This is quite entertaining: http://youtu.be/27puuu2OnmU
12/29/2013 04:26:06 am
12/29/2013 04:52:24 am
It's extremely likely that Charles Dawson faked the artifacts (he'd faked other fossils before), though several other potential hoaxers have been proposed. If I had to bet, my money would be on Dawson, too. I don't see anyone else who could have done it.
12/29/2013 11:17:33 pm
I am sure that Dawson was the chief, if not sole, culprit. Zoologist Martin Hinton reportedly left a trunk containing hippopotamus teeth treated in a manner similar to the Piltdown specimens, suggesting that he might have assisted Dawson in that particular fraud (the motive most often ascribed to him is to play a joke on Smith Woodward). Since he outlived the exposure of the fraud, it is possible that he was trying to determine how the fraud was perpetrated, but he evidently never announced the results of his experiments.
Well, the Roanoke Colony isn't a made-up mystery, though. There is an incredible amount of information available about the several voyages to the island. The only mystery is what exactly happened to the people. There are real, actual clues about what happened to them, including first-hand accounts from Native Americans who lived there. They gave information about what happened to a surveyor just over a hundred years later. The bottom line is that many of them were almost certainly absorbed into various Native cultures, even inland, according to those in the know at that time.
12/30/2013 01:02:59 pm
TBH, I'm pretty sure that Los Angeles proves that no matter how you claim your water sources, somebody bigger and more politically bloody-minded will steal them eventually. But no, unless a culture built settlements all along a given river, it would be impossible to claim the whole river.
12/29/2013 04:44:18 am
Hey how did the Egyptians get down to the level to dig the cave if modern rock climbers couldn't get there? And how did they move tons of relics to this cave? Common sense is an uncommon virtue on this show
12/30/2013 01:03:51 pm
Oh, no, Titus. They have PLENTY of common sense. They've never bothered to get the box out, dust it off, and use any of the contents!
1/5/2014 02:36:09 pm
12/29/2013 04:49:08 am
I think someone took the "UN" out of America Unearthed. Here is another episode where they talked about artifacts/sites but didn't show them.
12/29/2013 04:52:08 am
12/29/2013 04:54:26 am
12/29/2013 05:55:07 am
Rev. Phil Gotsch
12/29/2013 05:09:11 am
The "America Unearthed" H2 TV show … is a TV SHOW …
12/29/2013 05:21:28 am
That doesn't condone lying to the audience, Phil, nor does it condone failure to disclose conflicts of interest or guests' belief that they were chosen by God to deliver miracles. The fact is that vast number of H2 viewers think a show is true because it's on a channel that says it offers, and I quote, "more 2 history." Doesn't say anything about lying to people for cash.
Rev. Phil Gotsch
12/29/2013 06:05:26 am
EVERY commercially produced TV show partakes of SOME of that kind of Problem …
12/29/2013 06:14:18 am
If we all followed your example, Phil, nothing would ever get better because we'd all accept falsehoods and lies as the price of living in a fallen world. Sometimes you have to advocate for truth and stand up for the facts against lies of every stripe... and why am I telling this to a clergyman? Surely the Bible tells you a thing or two about the importance of standing up for truth even in the face of error and lies.
12/29/2013 09:25:42 am
Gosh, no arrogance in that response, Jason.
12/29/2013 09:29:14 am
I've got a perfect analogy for you, Jason. News organizations that used to report on the progress of Santa Claus. Hell, even NORAD turned their website over to tracking Santa.
12/29/2013 10:42:11 am
That's hardly a perfect analogy, Steve, and I'm honestly shocked that you are so vehement in your support of falsehood, obfuscation, and lies. Do you believe Scott Wolter *should* be misrepresenting the 1909 newspaper article to the audience? (I posted the whole article so you can see the misrepresentations for yourself.) I just don't see why you and Phil are angry that viewers like me would prefer Wolter not blatantly lie about the material he's discussing.
12/29/2013 11:17:08 am
Well, Steve's the descendant of Jesus according to Wolter, and Phil claims to be a Reverend. Maybe they're the unstated "people we know" from Wolter's radio interview who can't be proven to be in the Priory of Sion.
12/29/2013 01:35:57 pm
I think there is a big difference between creating a sense of drama for the purpose of television entertainment and perpetuating outright falsehoods. Again I think we all understand that commercial TV shows with creative editing will attempt to create a sense of drama to keep the audience tuned in and willing to sit through the commercials. But that is what we do not see on AU, instead we see a constant repetitiveness to each episode, the total lack of follow up and the evidence that is presented is found to be lacking. Jason takes his time to review each of these episodes and then takes the time to research the claims that are presented and shows the origin of the idea and presents evidence and arguments to counter the claim that SW presents. Now do the defenders of SW counter Jason's columns with counter arguments? No, instead they claim it is “just a TV show” which is no defense at all or in Steve's case make personal attacks against Jason and others that comment on this blog. How is this exactly defending SW at all. In fact the dear Rev. who states he is Wolter's personal friend and colleague has stated that he does not believe in Wolter's ideas at all but wants to make sure that the arguments do not get personal. If this is the case why are you not reprimanding Steve for his behavior?
12/29/2013 04:32:36 pm
"The show just comes off as a lazy attempt to explain fringe theories."
Jason: "Sometimes you have to advocate for truth and stand up for the facts against lies of every stripe... and why am I telling this to a clergyman? Surely the Bible tells you a thing or two about the importance of standing up for truth even in the face of error and lies."
12/29/2013 06:34:48 am
Rev. Phil Gotsch
12/29/2013 08:45:40 am
I juxtaposed "America Unearthed" and "How The Earth Was Made" simply to illustrate that ALL commercially produced TV shows have at least SOME over*the*Top -- "hype" -- aspects, which DO mislead naive viewers …
12/29/2013 01:10:13 pm
Sorry, I just don't get your point. Not all lies or misleading statements are equal. If I try to frame someone for a crime of which I know that person is innocent, will you say, "Well, no big deal! Everyone lies!"
12/29/2013 06:50:10 am
RE:"The H2 TV shows AREN'T of the quality of NOVA or Frontline"
Rev. Phil Gotsch
12/29/2013 02:42:46 pm
"NOVA," since its inception (1974) has been uniformly a SUPERB series of TV shows -- ALL of them produced for NON-commercial TV …
12/29/2013 07:18:54 am
I... Wow. This is insane. What a waste of time. This show would fit right in as entertainment on TLC, which long ago forgot what the L used to stand for.
12/29/2013 07:27:27 am
This episode was full of deep belly laughs, maybe more than usual. A couple of favorites not previously mentioned:
Discovery of America
12/29/2013 07:44:50 am
And the KSR is the Rosetta Stone, the cornerstone of Wolter's mindset towards his whole research
12/29/2013 04:46:04 pm
I'm glad you said "KSR," so that the comment is rendered as practically meaningless. I think, perhaps, Wolter is actually straying too far from the KSR.
Discovery of America
12/29/2013 11:25:55 pm
When the provenance of the Kensington Rune Stone appears then all the conjectures and theories dressed up as facts will stop. But that's like hoping for the evidence of Bigfoot.
12/30/2013 03:28:43 am
Big Feet are imaginary, like UFO sightings. They leave behind no credible evidence. The KRS is not imaginary, but a physical object.
1/3/2014 04:40:34 pm
The funniest thing in the whole episode was when Wolter told Weilbacher that he had been investigating a cave in the Grand Canyon. I didn't see no cave, and neither did Wolter.
12/29/2013 08:47:13 am
MR. BURROWS & A SMALL AND FINITE GOLD SUPPLY.
12/29/2013 09:44:50 am
The three "artifacts" SW has, that he shows to Mr. Hubbard,
12/29/2013 05:01:41 pm
An embarrassing question, no doubt. We know about where collectible agates in MN come from--the aforementioned Lake Superior lava, but what about the forgeries? Were they always "forgeries?" Were they always worthless...in one's mind? At any rate, they could seem collectible to someone who collects rocks in the first place...and which can in-and-of-itself be an innocent, pleasant pastime. Some Burrows Cave items do appear somewhat artful, for what that's worth...garden stones? Yes, over in the fantasy section of the garden, over by the fairy. Huh? Yah, ya betcha by gollie, eh? Eh? Why not?
12/30/2013 11:19:39 am
Good Comments JA
12/29/2013 08:51:54 am
" Cleopatra VII was Greek in ancestry, and is a descendant of Alexander the Great's cousin."
5/16/2017 01:02:41 am
That's completely asinine. Of course it was verified. Have you read any ancient history or archaeology books?
12/29/2013 09:13:41 am
I went to that Alexander Helios website and looked at the "artifacts" in the main page slideshow.
12/29/2013 09:52:09 am
12/29/2013 10:13:15 am
Fine, just release one artifact to be authenticated by a widely recognized authority and I will be happy to join your fight for the truth.
12/29/2013 12:57:34 pm
12/29/2013 10:16:14 am
Look at this site that links off the Alexander Helios site:
12/29/2013 10:16:31 am
Look at this site that links off the Alexander Helios site:
12/29/2013 11:02:44 am
It's not about profits or book sales, but conveniently you need exactly one million dollars to open a cave that does not belong to you? If there's any semblance of truth to your claim answer the following:
12/29/2013 01:10:36 pm
12/29/2013 01:20:42 pm
12/29/2013 11:14:36 am
You wouldn't also happen to know if a previously unknown relative of mine did, in fact, recently die and leave a rather large sum of money in a Nigerian bank, waiting for me to send the necessary processing fees to legally claim said sum?
12/29/2013 11:17:28 am
Any day now I expect to inherit several millions of dollars from a Nigerian Prince. If you can send me your bank account information I can forward some of the funds to you.
12/29/2013 01:30:58 pm
he he good one lol.
12/29/2013 01:32:15 pm
he he good one lol.
just shut it already
12/29/2013 02:05:09 pm
Also this is your best friend from high school and I'm trapped without my passport. All I need is two grand to get home. Help me out? Also you've won the lottery and I just need $500 to process your claim. Anyone interested in ocean front property in Nebraska? What? It's all totally true!
1/29/2014 08:56:29 am
I'm interested. I have been looking to contact Harry Hubbard as well. what do you need?
12/29/2013 10:18:37 am
12/29/2013 11:31:00 am
12/30/2013 02:13:13 pm
Thanks for the link. It was practically a book, but I think it was very telling, from one man's point of view--and what a view!
12/29/2013 12:05:14 pm
why did wolter say tut's sarcophagus was made of solid gold when it was made of wood with a gold overlay? why did he call alexander helios Egyptian when he was Macedonian and roman? why did he say alexander had to flee octavius when his sister selene , as well as pompey's son sextus were left alone? why would alexander go to north America instead of Parthia or Macedonian controlled bactria? and IF YOU CAN'T SEE A CAVE FROM BELOW BECAUSE IT'S TOO HIGH AND YOU CAN'T SEE IT FROM ABOVE BECAUSE IT'S TOO LOW, HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW IT'S THERE?
12/29/2013 12:20:24 pm
Did you expect them to do research for the show? They only read other fringe sources. Real facts don't cross their radar.
12/29/2013 01:19:53 pm
Its a shame yet destiny for a show like American Unearthed to portray such an important archeo / cultural find such as
12/29/2013 01:21:44 pm
Its a shame yet destiny for a show like American Unearthed to portray such an important archeo / cultural find such as
Rev. Phil Gotsch
12/29/2013 01:17:58 pm
There were multiple nested coffins holding the mummy of King Tutankhamun … the inner one being indeed SOLID gold ...
12/29/2013 12:17:37 pm
sorry but it's bugging me that I wrote that tut's sarcophagus was made of wood. I should have written that his coffin was wooden. the sarcophagus was granite.
12/29/2013 12:34:03 pm
This site has a pretty thorough debunking of Burrows, his "cave", and the obvious fake artifact selling scam surrounding him.
12/29/2013 12:37:19 pm
This site has a pretty thorough debunking of Burrows, his "cave", and the obvious fake artifact selling scam surrounding him.
12/29/2013 01:16:09 pm
I've seen culinary tourism shows that charter expeditions into jungles to discuss bush meat, but Wolter can't find out the FAA rules before he hires the helicopter and instead hire a canyon guide and some mules to uncover revelations of ancient Egyptians in the Grand Canyon? It's just admitting he's just wants to cry CONSPIRACY because he's just not even putting in the barest effort at.. well.. anything.
12/30/2013 01:22:41 pm
Eh, the waiting list for the mule ride is 2 years long. Besides, Wolter's a MANLY man! Why does he need mules? He can carry it all HIMSELF. Because he's MANLY.
10/14/2014 10:57:53 am
Saw the episode and when the female pilot told him she couldn't, because of FAA regulations, fly into the canyon, he looked like he had just been told that his dog died. I thought that it was because of safety concerns. The winds thoughout canyons can be tricky. I though, what a dummy.
12/29/2013 01:20:18 pm
Sorry about the multiple posts above. Weird error message when I tried to post. I thought it was a ban on url links, and like an idiot, I just kept hitting submit.
12/29/2013 02:41:51 pm
Vikings could have SAILED up the lower Mississippi river to get to Oklahoma!!!???? Is he daft? For those that don't know the mighty Mississippi, the only time winds were favorable to push a boat upstream would have been during hurricane Katrina.
The Other J.
12/30/2013 08:06:30 am
I never quite got how someone could argue that since the Vikings left an entire settlement in L'anse aux Meadows, they obviously could have made it half-way across the continent via waterways and plenty of portage.
I'll try to help you get it. The Vikings at L'Anse aux Meadows represented only the beginning of attempted settlement and land acquisition. Their particular circumstances prevented them from succeeding very long at that location in Newfoundland, yet that was only the beginning.
The Other J.
12/30/2013 08:57:09 pm
This doesn't wash for me for a number of reasons.
The Other J.
12/30/2013 08:58:04 pm
hook was originally a penmanship flourish of the rough draft's writer, and that flourish was slavishly copied into the engraving.)
12/31/2013 04:59:43 am
Wow, The Other J. I thought I was long-winded.
12/31/2013 05:11:56 am
It sounds like you might be better served by having your granddaughter review your ideas before posting them :)
Okay, RLewis, you didn't get it. And that was my daughter, not my granddaughter.
The Other J.
1/1/2014 06:07:51 pm
12/29/2013 02:52:38 pm
Vikings sailing to Oklahoma is old hat. Now its ancient Egyptians sailing up the Mississippi all the way to Southern Illinois. 50,000 of them. With lots and lots of gold, and 10s of thousands of stones, all led by a 10 year old prince. And the only "evidence" of this comes from a cave that's only been seen by one person in modern times.
9/1/2016 09:07:47 pm
Good Lord, Gunn!
12/29/2013 03:59:40 pm
Is it just me or did Wolter call Isis a Greek goddess in his voice over?
The Other J.
12/30/2013 08:58:47 am
Yes. Yes he does call Isis a Greek goddess.
12/30/2013 12:55:44 pm
Bwahaha! That just made my day.
12/30/2013 12:59:04 pm
If I hadn't read Scott Wolter's book, I'd have given him the benefit of the doubt that he was thinking about the Greco-Roman Isis cult rather than the older Egyptian original, but I think that suggests more than he really knows. That said, I'm going to put this down to a scriptwriting error.
5/16/2017 01:06:50 am
Yes, she was. Isis was one of the goddesses that the Hellenistic Ptolemaic Dynasty, who ruled Egypt from Alexandria, worshipped. She was a part of the pantheon of Greco-Egyptian deities.
5/16/2017 01:13:20 am
Isis was co-opted into the hybrid Greco-Egyptian religion created by the Ptolemies and the native priesthood. She was worshipped by a dynasty of Greek kings, in their religion.
12/30/2013 04:04:20 am
After re-watching the Holy Grail in America last night and reading some SW's posts on his blog, I think I'm beginning to see the agenda. SW (and/or the Producers of AU - I'm not sure who is steering) does not believe that Asians, Egyptians/Romans, or Vikings were in the USA - only Templars (they "accept' that the Vikings made it to Marthas Vinyard). I believe that is why they are half-heatedly looking at these recent myths - the easiest way to make your conspiracy look more reasonable is to show how little there is to support all competing conspiracies.
The Other J.
12/30/2013 09:31:45 am
I don't even know what to say about this miscarriage of an episode. But what Jason dug up on the backgrounds to the claims makes it somehow worthwhile, at least from a weird kind of sociological standpoint. For me, at least, that made this episode simultaneously one of the least and most satisfying.
12/30/2013 10:21:18 pm
thanks Jason. The voice of reason in a world of nonsense.
12/31/2013 01:26:43 am
Ready to turn off the TV when the Grand Canyon hoax came on, then the Barrow's tomb! Seemed like I was watching a different version of the fradulent B.F.R.O. at work, but without calls and knocks!
1/1/2014 12:17:45 pm
1/1/2014 01:14:19 pm
In terms of entertainment or content? They've all been awful in terms of truth, and as far as entertainment, I'm afraid I have to demur. I watch the episodes to closely for factual material to have a really accurate idea of how they play at a remove as entertainment.
1/1/2014 04:43:15 pm
Sorry for not beings specific. I was referring to content of the material.
1/1/2014 02:28:22 pm
Just to throw in a comment. On the show, the idea that possibly 50,000 Egyptian illegals came to America. Sorry had to throw that in. Using common sense. Don't you think there would be some evidence of that somewhere here? After all there is plenty of evidence that Cleopatra Ruled in Egypt. Also there is plenty written about it also. Who knows? Maybe that is who is responsible for the Texas Wall . I just think this is way too many people that would go unnoticed. Actually I think something else here is being protected. And Uncle Sam does not want you to know.
1/1/2014 04:18:26 pm
So, I find it interesting that they couldn't access the site with rope and modern conveniences yet they propose ancient Egyptians did it with masses of treasure?
1/3/2014 04:31:03 pm
Tune in next week to see the Wolters staged vacation.
1/4/2014 06:54:31 pm
According to Wolter`s theory,fearing for his own life,Alexander Helios decided to leave Egypt with an entourage of 50,000,bringing along no more less than the Ark of the Covenant.
1/5/2014 04:12:42 pm
You know what noone in the Roman Empire would notice?
1/8/2014 07:04:49 am
If there is a cave located in the Grand Canyon filled with ancient artifacts it should be very easy to find.
1/9/2014 03:56:21 am
Very Interesting Thomas . I have worked on before, long distance alignments of another sort, of ancient sites in the us. This is based on ancient mariners navigation techniques, so i guess star maps/constellations would fall into that category. So as a technical question i will ask all those that read is there some way to overlay a google star map over a google map ? The issue of course is to size and align properly but i guess if you have known reference points this should be easy enough to figure out.....
thomas o mills
1/11/2014 03:02:02 am
Hello Geo. You might be interested in a 30 year study done over at Chaco Canyon if you are still interested in long distance alignments http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTUHXS10BM4
1/12/2014 10:37:17 am
Thank You for the link and insight Thomas.
2/1/2014 10:27:09 am
It seems there is a conflict of interest when the source used to discredit the findings and persons involved is the same source stated trying to cover it up to begin with. Maybe a more reliable source on Cultural Myths of the Hopi Tribe would be the descendants of the Hopi and not a cultural institute that poorly documented the Native American cultures in general.
3/31/2014 10:32:50 pm
4/25/2014 08:04:53 pm
The Hebrews are the Egyptians of the ancient world. The Native Americans are the Israelite descendents. They were in Egypt during the time of Joseph, traveled across the ocean and founded America. You better get used to the truth, because it will be revealed.
8/25/2014 06:21:11 pm
Well, the truth be told THE CAVE is REAL. We want real archeologists from the state of ILLINOIS to come to THE REAL SITE. We are tired of lying TREASURE HUNTERS who just want to RIP OFF the Site and steal the history from us the people of Illinois. This site belongs to us, our children and grandchildren. We were promised that the stuff in the cave would go to a museum were it could be studied, protected and seen by everyone. What we got was lied too. Then a contract was given to us stating that for the sum of ten dollars, they could come do anything they wanted to any and all of our land including THE CAVE. It also stated they could dispose of any and all artifacts how they saw fit. That was not the agreement.
10/13/2014 11:34:47 pm
Good job protecting this "secret".
8/25/2014 06:51:32 pm
PLEASE DO NOT SEND ANYONE ANY MONEY. THE OWNERS OF THE CAVE (ex BURROW'S CAVE) WANT NO MONEY JUST THE TRUTH TO BE TOLD. ANYONE WHOM ASKS FOR MONEY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CAVE PERIOD.
9/13/2014 04:36:27 am
Just so you know: http://www.i-newswire.com/press-release/smithsonians-enigmatic-prof-jordan-linked-to-1909-arizona
9/14/2014 08:08:25 pm
Thanks for the info. Very interesting. Kinda of makes you wonder if archaeologists should be trusted.
12/5/2014 07:33:35 pm
12/8/2014 09:26:29 am
Once again, you've taken bits and pieces of data spanning years and twisted them into your own paradigm in order to make some sense to you. Your facts are so badly distorted there's no point in taking each wrong item and attempt correcting them. Everything you say may be put in its proper place by listening to not only my recent interviews but all the old ones as well. For instance: My issues with the landowner are detailed many times over. So why do you ask the question repeatedly when the answers have been available online for years? Nope, you're nuts, that's final. But don't take my word for it...simply ask anyone in the neighborhood or anyone you've ever had dealings with starting with Pete.
12/8/2014 09:29:01 am
Oh, the reason I never bothered to show you any artifacts is because I knew it wasn't worth the trouble to pull them out. I don't cast my pearls to people like you.
12/13/2014 05:34:28 pm
Mr. Hubbard, just so we're clear, your work is in no way based on a hoax perpetrated with the help of a Neo-Nazi child molester, right?
12/23/2014 03:59:39 pm
The first time I ever heard of Frank Joseph was late September of 1994. Yes, he's a Nazi Pervert call it what you will and suits best. Frank Collin stole and twist our data to form his book. We have no respect for him. When he got married, my first questions was: Is she over 14? He's a twisted old fart now. Don't forget he was leader of the Skokie Seven. I wonder where I'd be with such a marvelous past? Would my books sell as good as his?
1/10/2015 08:36:41 am
Why not use a drone with a go pro to get to the grand Canyon cave it makes me wonder they can rent a chopper but not use a drone
2/2/2015 05:58:06 pm
If you had any pearls to cast why did you not show them to Scott Wolters on national TV? Why don't you dig on your own property?
3/19/2016 02:55:38 pm
Harry and Geo Dowser;
10/9/2016 12:10:54 pm
11/21/2016 04:34:53 pm
Geo Dowser, If you are not Peter from Florida (treasure hunter) or Peter Jr. from NY> I apologize. If you are Peter, You know what I have said to be True. If you are not Peter, I would be glad to talk to you about the cave and artifacts. Have you actually seen a real artifact from the cave?? Can you prove that that artifact came from the cave in Southern Illinois. BY THE WAY RUSSELL BUROWS IS ALIVE!!!! If you believe only because of Harry H. and what he says...I feel sorry for you. IF you have real proof that the artifacts are real or can read them please comment those facts. Just because Harry reads a lot does not make him an expert. I READ ALOT. I am no expert but I know things that other people do not. When the truth comes out then you will now whom I am and how I know certain things. Then you will know and understand that I have told the truth. And as one of the few people that actually know where this cave is... too bad for you. Yes, the cave is sealed. No, Russell did not do it. Yes, the Sheriff is aware of what is going on out here. If you are not Peter then..you have no ideal. If you are Peter you know and know that at one time we trusted you and you did nothing but try to scam us. Why, to sell everything to the highest bidder, not to give it to a museum. We are not people that will willingly give the history of Illinois away to anyone but the people of Southern Illinois. Again if you are not Peter the scammer please accept my apology. If you are, may you get what you deserve. Nothing. zip. May what you have put us through return to you 100 times. Anyone who truly knows about the artifacts or can read them..except Harry I would love to hear from you. Scammers, liars, and low life treasure hunters need not reply. Anyone truly interested in the history of Illinois is welcome. Do I know the answers, not yet but I will. Do I know things others do not...yep, almost enough to write my own book. One day the truth will be out there, no one will really believe it, yet it will all be true. And yes, I will have the final word!!! Except for the experts who will be studying all of this for years. By the way, certain people know about what I have said and knows the truth and have for years. They will be here to tell you that what I have said is true and that they have know the truth for years. Or the truth that is now known. Who really knows what is in a sealed cave????? Guess you will be like the rest of us and just have to wait and see. I can state firmly that the history of Illinois will remain in Illinois. Anyone want to give to a MUSUEM???? DO NOT send me money but one day it will be needed. That is the truth for now. More updates later, probably on the National news. But that will be awhile away. Good things come to those patient enough to work hard and wait. What?? Do not know but will find out!!!!
3/21/2017 12:01:03 am
3/26/2017 10:56:37 pm
Hi all... this is geodowser and I am not at a keyboard so will be short...
5/6/2018 09:04:18 am
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