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Review of America Unearthed S02E12 "Lincoln's Secret Assassins"

2/16/2014

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Have you ever watched politicians talking and noticed how all of the elected officials from one party will repeat the exact same words on the same day? Well a similar thing has begun to happen with the friends and supporters of Scott Wolter, who have banded together to attack me with specific—and false—claims, using the same talking points. The novelist David Brody, who promotes Templar theories alongside Scott Wolter, attacked me in a recent blog post, accusing me of having “a visceral reaction every time Scott reaches a conclusion that runs contrary to accepted dogma,” driven by emotion and “quasi-irrational” hatred of Scott Wolter. He asserted that my “criticism is borne of jealousy,” and he made a false claim with reckless disregard for truth, claiming that I “repeatedly and unsuccessfully auditioned to play a host role similar to that played by Scott in America Unearthed.”

Prove it. We’ve seen Steve St. Clair use this same line of attack, in nearly the same words. Coincidence? And it isn’t true. I auditioned at the request of Destination America one single time for a program that they were only beginning to put together and eventually abandoned. It was supposed to be about giants and mounds and aliens and, well, UFOs and more aliens. I noted at the time that Destination America seemed utterly unaware that I was a skeptic (they never looked at my website, for example), and I knew during the interview process that this was going nowhere. This was in 2012, before America Unearthed ever aired. I have never auditioned for any other television program. Ever. If you think otherwise, prove it. Show me the production documents. Find the producers. Produce the travel records and the audition tapes.

(Disclosure: A cable channel [not H2] asked me this week if I would be interested in appearing in a show about ancient astronauts, but only as a guest expert. I told them I won’t do it if they plan to make me look like I support ancient aliens.)

So, on to this week’s episode of America Unearthed, S02E12 “Lincoln’s Secret Assassins.”

Background

Almost exactly one year ago, the National Geographic Channel scored 3.4 million viewers for its adaptation of Bill O’Reilly’s simplified history of the Lincoln assassination, Killing Lincoln. A few months later Committee Films sent out a casting notice looking for an actor to play John Surratt, one of the men who conspired with John Wilkes Booth to assassinate America’s sixteenth president. The role went to actor Paul Cram, who posted photographs of himself in costume alongside men dressed as Conquistadors in August of last year. Cram’s photos were removed just hours after I reported on them on this blog last year. At the time, the topics of the second season of America Unearthed were closely guarded secrets, but I correctly deduced from the photographs that America Unearthed was planning to explore the Knights of the Golden Circle, a pro-slavery organization dedicated to bringing much of the Western hemisphere under the control of a small but wealthy white elite as a slave-owning empire.

At least we are all on the same page this week about the racist origins of the claims.
You do not get much more racist that planning to build a giant slave empire where a white elite rule over enslaved black people across the Americas.

In the run up to the Civil War, an Ohio man by the name of George W. L. Bickley fabricated a degree in medicine from the University of London and used the fake diploma to secure a position as a quack—or, more specifically, as a professor at the Eclectic Medical Institute, an early forerunner of today’s complementary and alternative medicine movement. There he practiced phrenology and botany, so at least he did no greater harm then the quacks with real degrees. He also wrote a novel, a well-regarded history of the Indian Wars, and a bunch of pseudo-scientific books on medicine. His novel, called Adalaska, was an anti-slavery tome seeking to capitalize on the success of Uncle Tom’s Cabin. This would be a fascinating story on its own, but it’s only the beginning.

Among his other accomplishments was his marriage in 1853 to a wealthy widow and the subsequent use of her money to fund increasingly political activities and international business ventures. As the editor of a journal advocating Manifest Destiny, he argued that the U.S. capital should be removed to the Ozarks, for “the circle of our limits” would in time encompass Mexico and the Caribbean. This is the origin for the later term “The Golden Circle,” as David C. Keehn reported in Knights of the Golden Circle (Louisiana State University Press, 2013). Bickley was associated with the Young America movement, an organization affiliated with the Democratic Party which advocated Jacksonian democracy (including its Indian removal arm) and expansion south and westward.

Bickley also loved secret societies and wanted one of his own. He tried forming a chapter of the Brotherhood of Union, and he joined a lodge of Know-Nothings, as did a teenaged John Wilkes Booth. However, when Bickley’s wife discovered in 1857 that he was trying to steal her assets, he returned to quackery as a vocation and began plotting a new secret society. As Bickley came to realize that there was money to be made from exploiting Southern anxieties over slavery, he quickly abandoned his earlier objections to the “peculiar institution.” He tried wearing a false beard to hide from his creditors but was eventually driven out of Ohio. In short, he was a con artist whose only firm conviction was in the power of the almighty dollar.

While working as an editor, he placed a single star atop a Maltese cross and was inspired. He now had a logo for a new organization, modeled closely on the Brotherhood of Union, which he called the Knights of the Golden Circle, referring to the circle of land surrounding the Caribbean that would be his imagined Southern Empire. He convinced the Order of the Lone Star to join its fifteen thousand members to his nascent group, which took the Golden Circle name. The OLS had been founded by Cuban-Americans and Southern expansionists to promote U.S. intervention in the Caribbean, in violation of the 1818 Neutrality Act.

The exact machinations of the Knights in their growth phase aren’t particularly relevant; suffice it to say that like most secret societies of the era, it utilized three Mason-like degrees of initiation and had a hierarchy modeled, ultimately, on that of the Freemasons. It was not, however, affiliated with the Masons, though in that era many members would have participated in more than one secret society. This was not due to a widespread conspiracy but rather because before the rise of the labor movement and the modern welfare state, these organizations were a major source of social welfare and an important part of the social safety net.

Keehn concludes that the Knights laid the groundwork for the Confederate Army and helped make secession possible, but then broke down into a confederation of local agitators and a militant core group. He, if I may be so bold, seems to see them as analogous to the Tea Party, if the Tea Party spilled over into open rebellion. His book, however, provides little documentary support for its broad assertions about a massively powerful Golden Circle. Aside from Keehn, most historians feel that the group itself was little more than a collection of dreamers and schemers and its legend attributable to the individual accomplishments of men who happened to be members, reflected back onto the group itself. In this it would not be too different from the way the Masons acquired their own legend of omnipotence.

The Knights faltered with the beginnings of the Civil War. Jefferson Davis had believed that the Knights could offer continuing support for the war effort, but it never materialized. In 1863, the Confederate government called Bickley to service, but he deserted, hiding with his mistress in Tennessee. He tried to flee to Indiana in 1864, but he was accused of being a Confederate spy and was arrested. He died in 1867 as a result of the ill effects of his time in prison. The Knights reorganized as the Order of American Knights in 1863 and the Order of the Sons of Liberty the following year. Its most lasting legacy was to provide an organizational template for the first Ku Klux Klan, one of many similar organizations to emerge from the ruins of the Confederacy.

However, while the Knights had little practical effect on the war effort, Republican politicians found them to be a useful propaganda tool in the North. Secretary of State William Seward denounced ex-President Franklin Pierce, a critic of Lincoln, as a Knight. Pierce denied the charges of treason vociferously and denied even having heard of the Knights. The Lincoln administration and its allies in the press used the threat supposedly posed by the Knights to support Lincoln’s curtailment of civil liberties, including the suspension of the writ of habeas corpus. To oppose Lincoln was to be denounced as a traitor and a Knight.

It was in the context of largely imaginary threat generated by government propaganda that some began to imagine that Lincoln himself was under threat from the Knights. This is the deep background for the unusual letter received by Abraham Lincoln’s correspondence secretary E. D. Neill at the end of 1864. In a letter of November 6, 1864, Alexander Ramsey wrote from St. Paul, Minn. warning that Lincoln was under threat from the Knights Templar—referring to the group within Freemasonry, not the medieval warrior-monks—whom he claimed were planning to assassinate the president:
Shortly after the Nom. of McClellan a gentleman, an old acquaintance of his, temporarily at St Paul and a “Knight templar” in the order of Masons, said to him that Mr Lincoln would be assassinated if elected — to the inquiry “who would do it” he replied “the Knights”   My informant is a “Knight templar” himself, and at the time and for a season after supposed the “Knights of the Golden Circle” were meant, but upon reflection he fears his informant meant the “Knight Templars” & if so he fears their detection will be more difficult & begged me to put the Prest. on his guard. (original spelling & punctuation)

According to Harold Holzer, a leading scholar of Lincoln, this was one of many warnings of assassination received by the president, part and parcel of the heightened tensions of the war years. It took on greater significance because, by chance, Neill kept this one, which began its long odyssey to the Minnesota Historical Society, not far from Scott Wolter’s home, where it rests today. The U.S. government never suspected the Freemasons of the crime.

Since the 1826 kidnapping of William Morgan by Freemasons, the organization had been on the political outs in the United States, and subject to vigorous denunciation and endless conspiracy theories. An Anti-Masonic Party ran candidates in two presidential elections. Because Andrew Jackson, a Democrat, had been a prominent Mason, Republicans were inclined to lump the Masons in with the Knights of the Golden Circle as supporters of the Democratic Party and the Confederacy. It did not help that one of America’s most prominent Masonic leaders, Sovereign Grand Commander Albert Pike, was a general in the Confederate army. Republicans also accused Confederate president Jefferson Davis of being a Freemason as well, but Davis denied the accusation.

Then in April of 1865 John Wilkes Booth assassinated Abraham Lincoln. A government investigation uncovered a conspiracy, and eight members of that conspiracy were tried and convicted. Soon after a book called The Great Conspiracy: A Book of Absorbing Interest appeared, describing the events surrounding the assassination. The anonymous author asserted that John Wilkes Booth had been initiated into the Knights of the Golden Circle in Baltimore in 1860 and that he swore an oath on the blood of Christ to give his life in service of the Knights. While some of the text of the oath may be fictitious, historians are divided on whether Booth was in fact a member of the Knights. (Keehn believes he was.) So much of the relevant material is tainted with propaganda; one of the early conspiracy books, The Suppressed Truth about the Assassination of Abraham Lincoln (1922) for example, concocted a vast conspiracy by which the conspirators were all Knights but also fallen Protestants who “were wholly papalized,” since the hated Catholic Church was supposedly conspiring with Jefferson Davis and the Knights.

From this giant mess was born the conspiracy theory that the Knights of the Golden Circle recruited Albert Pike to procure and protect a hoard of Confederate gold by moving it through Masonic channels after the end of the Civil War. You’ll recognize this as the plot of the Disney movie National Treasure: Book of Secrets (2007), where the treasure is in fact the ancient (and mythical) lost city of gold sought by the Conquistadors. (That lost city helped spawn the mistaken belief that the Aztec had colonized Arizona, but that’s a different episode…) Disney, in case you have forgotten, is a 50% owner of A+E Networks, the parent of H2, and the movie franchise also lent its name to another H2 series, America’s Book of Secrets. Others speculate that the treasure was really that of the assassinated Maximilian, Emperor of Mexico, the Habsburg archduke placed upon a shaky throne due to Napoleon III’s scheming.

As prominent Freemasons have repeatedly demonstrated, there remains not a trace of factual or documentary evidence for a lost treasure/Freemason scenario. It is entirely a fantasy concocted by modern conspiracy theorists. I can’t even debunk it because there is absolutely no documentary evidence whatsoever. But from this, according to Arthur Goldwag’s Cults, Conspiracies, and Secret Societies, treasure-hunters and conspiracy theorists have spun an elaborate story that the entire Civil War was the result of a conspiracy initiated by the original Knights Templar and fulfilled by the Illuminati and international Jewry. Pike himself helped set off such speculation in an April 16, 1868 Memphis Daily Appeal editorial when he argued that a “secret association” of some kind would be essential for safeguarding the rights of white citizens in the Reconstruction South. Although many later took this to mean the KKK or the Knights of the Golden Circle, Pike specifically wrote that the KKK was ineffective for his purposes: “...we would unite every white man in the South, who is opposed to negro suffrage, into one great Order of Southern Brotherhood […] whose very existence should be concealed from all but its members. That has been the resort of the oppressed in all ages. To resort to it is a right given by God...” Pike also stated at one time that he would quit Masonry if it ever allowed African Americans to join.

To all of this is appended a further conspiracy whereby Jesse James was also a Knight and was in receipt of either Confederate treasure or Maximilian’s treasure, and used it to fake his own death. The Knights of the Golden Circle allegation was previously explored by the History Channel in 2009. Even Keehn, the historian granting the broadest influence to the Knights, finds this claim ridiculous. James was eleven when the Knights were founded, and he was sixteen when the original group reorganized. The conspiracy rests on the assumption—without evidence—that the Knights continued to exist underground after the fall of the Confederacy, something belied by its own gradual and public dissolution during the war years.

It emerges, as best I can tell, from a pair of strange texts: a 1975 book called Jesse James Was One of His Names by Del Schrade and Jesse James III and a privately-printed conspiracy theory called The New Spoilers by Norma Cox, also published in the Hollow Earth Insider around 1994. The 1975 book’s co-author, Jesse James III, was actually Orvus Lee Houk, who claimed to be the grandson of an old man named J. Frank Dalton who had become notorious for pretending to be century-old Jesse James between 1948 and his death in 1951. He was probably the same Frank Dalton who claimed in 1936 to have been a witness to the aftermath of the death of Jesse James and who had written at the time “Jesse James was killed by Bob Ford on the 3rd of April, 1882, in St. Joseph, Mo., there were too many people who knew him well and came to identify him for there to be any possible doubt, so that is that.” The 1975 book was written to support Dalton’s late in life claims, though DNA testing of the body buried in James’s grave in 1999 showed that the outlaw had died in 1882. In the book, the authors said Dalton claimed that James was one of the leaders of the Knights after the war, along with Cole Younger and Jefferson Davis, that the group had a spy network stretching across the continent and to England, and that the Knights had launched the KKK as a “military police” group. Conveniently, Dalton was made to claim, the Knights sealed their records in 1916, so nothing could ever be proved. But Dalton said John Wilkes Booth was not a member of the group, but a low-level affiliate, and was not acting on Knightly orders. Instead, he was rescued by the Knights so he couldn’t spill their secrets.

Cox’s work asserts that Albert Pike, Jesse James, and Jefferson Davis were not just leaders but among the twelve founders of the Golden Circle. It is through Pike that the Freemasons enter the conspiracy and tie together the modern version of the James-Knights-Treasure story. Cox, if you should be interested, was a disabled housewife who considered herself psychic. She was also a hollow earth theorist who also believed that the sun was hollow. She wrote another book (actually a compilation of her newsletters) called The Holy Land above and Below in which, and I sincerely wish I were making this up, evil pagan-god aliens who live under the earth and in outer space are conspiring to hide the truth about history from white Americans. These truths include the fact that the Jews worship the sun, Hitler lived out his days comfortably beneath Antarctica, and the Statue of Liberty is an alien radio transmission tower. She was deeply interested in conspiracies and Confederate hate groups because “here in the United States the White Christian is targeted for extinction,” as she wrote. Oh, and the Jews are fakers who usurped the proper position of the Aryans as God’s Chosen people: “…the Aryan is the genius, the inventors of all of the tools representing progress; the fact that, except for the Jew’s inherent cunning, and his unexcelled cleverness in manipulating money, the Aryan is his superior in every way, and the fact that the Gentile-Aryan is the chosen of the Creator, and not the Jew.”

It gets worse from there: She had a whole pagan-biblical world philosophy, culminating in the glorious reign of Hitler over the world before the return of Apollo-Jesus. And she penned many, many more tracts on the same themes.

Conspiracy literature cites Cox (mostly in online sources) and the explicators of Dalton (more often in print) as evidence that Jesse James was involved in the removal of Confederate treasure, but I think you can see that the sources for this conspiracy are a bit less than ideal. David Icke includes the burgeoning legend in his Biggest Secret (1999), complete with Albert Pike as mastermind, and Warren Getler and Bob Brewer essentially adopt the Dalton version wholesale and claim that the Knights of the Golden Circle were pulling the strings of the KKK and Freemasonry in their book on the hunt for Confederate treasure, Rebel Gold (2003), also published as Shadow of the Sentinel, which includes the Jesse James conspiracy at face value, and asserts that not only did the Knights kill Lincoln, they had elected him, too, as a pretext for secession! They also came to include Albert Pike as a potential connection to Masonry. Their book forms the template for the investigation Scott Wolter undertakes. Reviewers of the time noted that the authors simply accepted Civil War propaganda at face value with nary a critical thought. Hmm... Sounds familiar!

The Episode

The Lincoln assassination falls under the category of events I don’t really care that much about. There is only so much history I can take a real interest in, and the well-trod events of Civil War era America just aren’t my area. I know a lot of people love the Civil War, but I’m not one of them. So you can imagine that this was not an episode I had any great desire to watch. When the show opened with testimony of the gruesome nature of secret societies and the need for viewer discretion, my eyes started to roll. The reenactment shows a man being initiated into the Knights of the Golden Circle using ridiculously exaggerated blood rites drawn from Civil War era propaganda almost wholly divorced from fact. Few organizations would manage to attract tens of thousands of followers by torturing and slicing and dicing initiates.

Oh well. The title sequence rolls and we see Scott Wolter driving down a foggy road. He arrives at the home of John DeSalvo, who collects Lincoln memorabilia. Although he is presented as a competent Lincoln researcher, he is actually a fringe theorist who believes in Enochian magic and various goofy theories about the Great Pyramid. He hosts a fringe history radio show and started a pyramid research group to bypass “traditional academic journals,” which are, of course, suppressing the truth about magic, angels, and pyramids.

Wolter is shocked to discover that there was a wider conspiracy to kill government officials along with Lincoln, a fact that is actual and established history—and the whole reason for the trials of the conspirators that followed the assassination. The two men seem to think that it is news to discover that other people were involved, something that the Federal government investigated and documented in 1865. Once again, Wolter presents his own ignorance (real or feigned) as evidence that there is a suppression of history. These claims were all put forward, adjudicated, and investigated in the 1860s. The Knights of the Golden Circle claim emerged in the 1860s, was revived in the 1920s and the 1970s before reemerging around 2000. It is so completely not news that it’s laughable that America Unearthed would purposely want us to think that its host is completely ignorant of the subjects he chooses to investigate, even at the most basic level of research.

DeSalvo attributes the conspiracy to the Knights of the Golden Circle, and Wolter fails to explain what the group really was, parroting fringe history ideas about grisly blood rites and continental spy networks drawn mostly from Northern propaganda during the war years. This is shallow even for America Unearthed. A moment’s research in real history books rather than goofball fringe literature would show how unfounded these ideas are.

In Washington, D.C., Wolter confronts Mark Stout of the International Spy Museum and demands to see “evidence” before we cut to the first commercial break.

After the break Stout, a former CIA officer, shows Wolter a cypher key that Booth had in his possession at the time of the assassination. It was probably a Confederate code, Stout says, and he demonstrates how it works to Wolter. Stout then shows Wolter evidence of the “Northwest Conspiracy,” a Confederate sabotage ring run out of Canada, who had as a member, Stout says, Jesse James. However, this appears to be another fringe claim, not appearing in standard biographies of the outlaw. The teenaged James was a Confederate guerilla, however, though not a high ranking one. I doubt many teenagers were.

After another break, Wolter returns to the idea that he had no idea that there was a conspiracy to kill Lincoln, and he discusses “gruesome” rituals of the Knights of the Golden Circle, which he says—laughably—involved kneeling on a human corpse. So did they have (by America Unearthed’s count) 500,000 corpses, or did they have only one per “castle” (lodge)? This is just Northern propaganda, from The Great Conspiracy.

Moving to a “secret” meeting site, also in Washington, Wolter meets Warren Getler of Rebel Gold fame! As mentioned above, he’s another credulous researcher who accepts Northern propaganda at face value—specifically mentioning the book The Great Conspiracy, which I discussed above, a piece of utter propaganda, as obvious as any I’ve ever read. He falsely links Sen. John C. Calhoun to the Knights of the Golden Circle—Calhoun was never a member; he was dead eight years before the Knights were founded. Worse, he calls Jesse James a field commander of the Knights—a claim based entirely on Dalton, the imposter from 1948! The men travel to Judiciary Square to view the statue of Albert Pike. As you can tell from the background information I wrote ahead of time, I am psychic and can predict this show’s dumb ideas with uncanny accuracy. The show, however, fails to acknowledge that any of the fellows involved with the alleged conspiracy were acting out of virulent racism in the postwar years (see the editorial Pike wrote, quoted above). Instead, we get idiocy about sacred geometry being used to lay out hiding places for Confederate gold in service of a new Confederacy—supposedly hundreds of millions of dollars’ worth.

Getler asserts that the Knights of the Golden Circle still exist, and as we go to commercial I received the best news ever: Next week is the “season finale” of America Unearthed! SWEET FREEDOM! I would go mad if I had to do this for twenty-six straight weeks. They must be dividing the twenty-six episode order into two thirteen-episode seasons. Sadly, though, that means that this season failed to build toward a climax like last season did, confining itself to mostly low-level lunacy until this episode. We didn’t even get a swing back around for another attempt to find the Ark of the Covenant as Wolter had promised back in the premiere that we would. As the break ends, Scott Wolter’s sponsor, Duluth Trading, runs an ad that promises that its underwear won’t “stink.” That’s about right for this show.

After the break we get another recap as Wolter sputters at Getler’s ridiculous and unfounded claim that a Knights of the Golden Circle “legacy organization” still exists “for some purpose that’s way bigger than most people can conceive of.” The two men are pretty sure it has something to do with the New World Order, and Wolter speculates that the New World Order he failed to find evidence for back in episode 2 is really the Knights of the Golden Circle. He asserts that the Georgia Guide Stones may have been tied to the Knights of the Golden Circle, funded by Confederate gold. Getler asserts that dark forces have accosted him personally—he should join Robert Temple, who thinks the CIA and world hypnotists are trying to get him. I am again dumbfounded that neither of these idiots makes even a passing mention to the foundational goal of the Knights, instituting permanent white supremacy throughout a “Golden Circle” of slave-holding territories, institutionalizing slavery forever.

How can you talk about the Civil War and secret societies without even a moment’s thought (until the last minutes of the show) to the issue of slavery, the fundamental principle that caused secession in the first place and was the acknowledged reason for being of the Knights of the Golden Circle? This vast conspiracy somehow dumped all of its ideology in favor of, what, exactly? A vague effort at population control? How does that represent a “KGC principle”? Or do they have ideas about which people to kill?

Wolter travels to Brownwood, Texas to look for “treasure and the truth” at a supposed Knights of the Golden Circle treasure site to talk to a laconic fellow who hear more about the alleged survival of the Knights of the Golden Circle, for which no documentary evidence exists. This centers on a man named Henry Ford, whom the leathery man suggests was really Jesse James. He can join the list of the many pretenders. There were dozens of them.

This takes us to another commercial without a single verifiable fact in support of this conspiracy. Once again we are asked to accept the impossible on the word of a “researcher” who says things that are demonstrably untrue—like the ghost of John C. Calhoun taking part in KGC affairs eight years after his death. But in the world of America Unearthed facts don’t matter because truth is a function of the goodness of one’s soul. If you are fringe researcher fighting the good fight against mainstream history, you are one of the heroes, and your ideas are therefore true.

Following the hour’s last break, we return to Texas where Wolter plans to use ground-penetrating radar to look for underground tunnels supposedly built by Jesse James to hide Knightly gold. In the last minute of the show he tells us that he didn’t bother to actually try to find the gold, and didn’t show us the results of the radar survey. What a joke.

Wolter moves on to the Eagle Pass, Texas city hall to look for material about J. O. Shelby—a Confederate soldier who just happens to be related to Don Shelby, the idiot who thinks that Meriwether Lewis was murdered to cover up Templar land claims. Don Shelby has no evidence that J. O. was a Knight, but he thinks he must have been just because the Knights were so powerful and Don seems to want to associate himself with greatness, even the greatness of an organization devoted to hemispheric white supremacy, which is only mentioned once in passing in the last four minutes of the show. What exactly does he think the “Golden Circle” was supposed to be? Ah, finally, they decide to tell us, right at the end of the hour. They then move right on past slavery and talk about the nobility and greatness of the Confederate soldiers.

Shelby says you “have to admire” the KGC, and Wolter nods in agreement. The two seem confused about the facts of the KGC and that the Golden Circle was supposed to come into the Union to forestall a Civil War, not as a back up plan, to add more slave states, starting with Cuba. By revising the timeline, they promote the idea that the KGC continued to exist after the war—against all documentary evidence. This, in turn, plays into the conspiracy mindset but makes a mockery of history. I’m still baffled why I’m supposed to admire a racist group that wanted to create a transcontinental slave empire.

So where are these modern Knights? Wolter didn’t bother to even go looking for a single one. And what of Lincoln’s assassination? That’s forgotten among the lust for gold. Once again, the writing lets down the episode, failing to provide a solid through-line or a coherent narrative, dropping plot threads and giving so little background that viewers coming to the show without background in the subject have no choice but to agree with Wolter for lack of facts. Perhaps that’s all part of the plan.

The Knights of the Golden Circle and the New World Order share one thing in common: They don’t exist but can easily stand in for the Freemasons, whose members supposedly populate both groups. They allow conspiracy theorists to accuse the Masons of all manner of gruesome crimes, dastardly conspiracies, and bloody rites without ever crossing the line into libel. By attributing the claims to non-existent groups, the claims become the Holy Grail of cable television—consequence free conspiracy-mongering, with no risk of lawsuits or litigation.

94 Comments
CHV
2/15/2014 02:50:47 pm

I was struck by Getler claiming that the KGC was (or is) as powerful as the modern CIA (which is laughable on its face if only from the standpoint of 2014 technology versus that from 1860) if for no other reason than if it were indeed so godlike, why did they wait for the END of the war to kill Lincoln as opposed to, say, the first year in when an assassination could have dealt the Union a crippling blow?

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Mike Dantuono
2/15/2014 03:24:33 pm

This would go against his love for duality as well as others who would promote the same in the future.
The proof is Lincon was bi-sexual.

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CHV
2/15/2014 03:28:29 pm

What proof? Show me.

Secondly, the man's name was "Lincoln" not "Lincon."

Mike dantuono
2/15/2014 05:21:43 pm

I'm sorry ... I'm aware of the spelling. Sorry don the like to spell check... what proof .... read the letters... His . He had 2 or 3 male lovers .... One a so called dear friend. Find it your self. I had to.

Thane
2/17/2014 01:13:00 pm

Mike,

In earlier times, men were much more effusive in expressing themselves emotionally even to other men. There was an art to writing and the use of language. In addition, a man's bond with his closest male friends was a very primary relationship based on boon companionship. Women were not expected to me a man's intellectual equal nor were men and women allowed to associate freely and without social supervision so the opportunities to developing a close and intimate affinity was extremely limited. People, however, still needed deep and emotionally intimate relationships and if you could not have that with the opposite sex, you had it with those of your own. Women also had very deep emotional bonds with other women in that time period.

The closeness of a boon companion was emotionally deep and did not mean it was sexual in nature.

I suggest that you re-read the letters in the context of that time period and society....

CPT Rick
4/29/2014 02:39:00 pm

For the record , there's a reason for everything. My personal belief the KGC are alive now as they were in the 1800's even more so. They have infiltrated all walks of life. NWO is a bi-product of this infestation .

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Walt
2/15/2014 03:08:12 pm

“a visceral reaction every time Scott reaches a conclusion that runs contrary to accepted dogma,”

You actually have that reaction regardless of whether or not his conclusion runs contrary to accepted dogma. Your review of the Texas Rock Wall episode shows that. In that episode, he essentially used modern science to come to the correct conclusion and debunk a myth. He actually sided with the experts. You gave him credit since you had no choice, but the overall theme of your review was exactly the same as your other AU reviews.

You're not jealous though. You're just offended by a factually-challenged TV show. Others are even more offended and they use even harsher words. Unlike Brody and Steve, I don't have a problem with that. You mix in plenty of facts, with the snarkiness, that they could address if they were able.

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Tara Jordan link
2/15/2014 03:18:17 pm

Dan Brown`s "literature" is atrocious enough.Who needs a third class "modern-day mystery novel" author?.Thank to Jason "the naysayer",who generously provided David Brody his 15 minutes of fame.Brody can now go back into obscurity,where he belongs.

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Mike Dantuono
2/15/2014 03:22:19 pm

Are you an archaeologist or journalist?
I believe the second would be the fact. I have never heard of you until I found a blog relating to Scot. No offense . There is a lot of proof of Templar and Illuminati Connection. George Washington Letters
prove bolth.... He was happy the illuminati was here, as the letter stated.
So what are you like Scot then..
For one Lincon was a lier. He hide his sexuality.
Which some of my gay friends find offensive.
Second he told slaves they could gain freedom by fighting the war. That sounded great , until he put them right on the front lines to die. Do you not understand duality, you must have bolth evil and love in order to have balance. Your approach is extensive and is a Web to hide your anger for Scot. Lincon was a tool if you will a puppet. When he decided to blab the truth to protect him self from being brought forth as a bi-sexual man,
and his jealousy for the only women he ever love and lost who was a relitive to the illuminati , and of course some of the extensive arguments listed in you post above is most likely the reason he was killed.
As far as Albert Pike. Are you kidding. The Satanist. The reformer of the Mason rights.... Jason you must be able to see bolth sides of the fence and put 1 and 1 together.
Duality runs bolth sides of this argument. By all means please keep posting on Scot. My hope is Scot is for real as far as his intentions. There is only honor or dishonor.
From what I see Scot is trying to use honor.
As far as history it is written by the winners and it sounds like Lincon lost.
Remember Lincon letter to the women who lost he sons. He said they lost their lives on the alter of freedom. Freedom the female concept of Masonry.
A alter , where people lose their life weather they agree or dis agree to give their life for what they accept or do not accept . This is not the concept of Christ. "In God We Trust" Again, this is duality, where his argument holds water.

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CHV
2/15/2014 03:26:54 pm

Mike: Your post above contains 24 spelling errors. Just a head's up. Secondly, the claim that Lincoln was gay is ridiculous. Not because I said so, but because there are no facts to back that up.

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Mike Dantuono
2/15/2014 05:25:46 pm

The things you can find on Google. Thanks for the spell check. I stink at it.. But the golden circle .... hummmmm, sounds like PHI to me... did I spell that right... lol. Good night all I'm tired .

Mike DAntuono
3/20/2014 06:38:59 am

I have read the comments based on my post. Wow! My take is those who have read this information about Lincoln don't relate with the data. Not because you are not smart , or you can't spell. Only due to your acceptance of historical dogma presented by the people who write our history.
My facts are based on authors who lend hand to my claim. Not just mine but others also think he was bi sexual. For one , I don't care if you are gay or not. But, to lie and be guy is another story. The question I have is why? Who told the lie, Lincoln? Or the writers of American history? The next question again is why? What was being covered up. Did Lincoln have V.D. , was this the reason of his children's death ? Or was it his own mental breakdown due to the war , where he thought he had V.D due to sleeping with a hooker?
Back to the point , the Auther list is as follows
Jan Morris, Ted Wilder, Ted Wilson, Harold Holtz ,
The in accurate statement that I did not understand the age or time was not the facts, mine lack of information of American military is true.

Mike DAntuono
3/20/2014 09:34:50 am

Yes I was speaking about directly about Mr. Speed and his relationship with the president . Your information you presented was vague at best. 1837 Springfield , Mr. Lincoln went to the store Mr.Speed owned looking to buy linens. Mr. Speed didn't know him but had seen him around. So, Mr. Speed credited Mr. Lincoln .
This began a long relationship. To the point of one comment from Lincoln " I don't feel my own sorrows as much as I feel yours."
In another he and Mr. Speed we're upset due to Mr. Speed and the news of his marriage. Lincoln and Speed booth had issues with women. Lincoln spent 4 years living with him sleeping in the same bed. Most men do not share this intimate of a relationship unless they are involved. David Derrickson also a Army Captian, also shared a bed with Lincoln. The reason this was fit more to the puzzle is , the gossip around the military bases about him and David. That one night two men needed to see Lincoln, so they went up stairs and found Lincoln and David in bed, but David was only wearing Lincoln's shirt. Only his shirt

Mike Dantuono
3/20/2014 09:46:39 am

Continued......
Mean while Lincoln had no shirt . Just a friendly suggestion , letting his sleep with only his night shirt. Not that that is a bad thing.
The fact is Lincoln had depression. Matter of a fact at a cabinet meeting he said "If I should not laugh then I should cry. This is no depression, it is bipolar. You don't share many different emotions when you are bi polar. More interesting is the fact most bipolar people are bisexual or homosexual,and highly intelligent.

Mike DAntuono
3/20/2014 09:58:11 am

Continued, due to site not working .
So I would suggest who reads this to go and look . The data is argue able, except Lincoln had a list of men he was close to , and even to gossip of the forts is he was gay. My guess is he was sleeping with whores to make people think he was not gay. The thing that got me the most was the simple fact that he was upset his best friend was getting married. Most guys are happy their best friend is getting married. To be the best man at his wedding. But not Lincoln , he was so upset he was taken in by Speeds family and cared for while in depression.
Finally, there is way too many questions. How may I ask you all? Dose this president the most photographed man and most written about man and documented man be so questioned?

Mike DAntuono
3/20/2014 10:14:51 am

If you really wanna talk Lincoln , who he was . Look at it from his early terms in office which I think he would have been ashamed of himself for. Railing the wigs in any way he could. Hundreds of letters bashing people , calling them everything in the book damn near. He was a heckler at best durning this time. To his relationship with his dad, how his dad sold him for work, then kept the money. Lincoln hated that. This is wear he started his hatered for slavery. Which I agree with him there. To his morbid poems about killing himself,and him going to his sons grave and opening the coffin to se his face 6 months after his death. To how Lincoln felt about over a million men loosening their lives for his so called alter of freedom.
What I realized is that Lincoln didn't is the fact that God was not on the side of the north or South

Mike DAntuono
3/20/2014 10:33:07 am

Continued ... that God had sent his Son to free all men. Something Lincoln was misconnected by. How Lincoln wrote the infidel. This is not the belief of Christ or God. He was no Christian . He didn't even site bible verses in his speeches and the first time he sited it was "Four score and seven years ago"
Lincoln on Nov. 6 1860 was shaving and had a vision of himself disappearing in the mirror. Which he had been having for along time.
I think he had a messiah complex. Why , Christ died for men to be free. Not Lincoln . He didn't die from freeing men , the men on the battlefield who gave their lives to free the blacks and the blacks lost their lives for it. He was shot and murdered. But according to Lincoln the men also lost their life to the alter of freedom.
I never said Lincoln didn't do anything good but yet this site bashed me for presenting this argument as if I was the one who splayed Christ himself. All of you on this site. Knowledge is a privilege. It is a collective of all of us for all of us and by all who seek it. Don't think me or other people are stupid due to their spelling or lack of physician appearance. Just because I can't spell well dose not mean you or any one else has the authority to bash what I have stated. Only showers your true color as a human being and how your humanity is observed.

Mike DAntuono
3/20/2014 10:33:29 am

Continued ... that God had sent his Son to free all men. Something Lincoln was misconnected by. How Lincoln wrote the infidel. This is not the belief of Christ or God. He was no Christian . He didn't even site bible verses in his speeches and the first time he sited it was "Four score and seven years ago"
Lincoln on Nov. 6 1860 was shaving and had a vision of himself disappearing in the mirror. Which he had been having for along time.
I think he had a messiah complex. Why , Christ died for men to be free. Not Lincoln . He didn't die from freeing men , the men on the battlefield who gave their lives to free the blacks and the blacks lost their lives for it. He was shot and murdered. But according to Lincoln the men also lost their life to the alter of freedom.
I never said Lincoln didn't do anything good but yet this site bashed me for presenting this argument as if I was the one who splayed Christ himself. All of you on this site. Knowledge is a privilege. It is a collective of all of us for all of us and by all who seek it. Don't think me or other people are stupid due to their spelling or lack of physician appearance. Just because I can't spell well dose not mean you or any one else has the authority to bash what I have stated. Only showers your true color as a human being and how your humanity is observed.

Mandalore
2/15/2014 03:35:30 pm

Lincoln wasn't gay, not that there's anything wrong with that. That misconception is based on the impact of homophobic tendencies on mpdern male behavior. Lincoln had a very close relationship with an army officer, I don't remember his name. But having a close male relationship was normal, including holding hands and such. Look at old pictures of men embracing and in other modern cultures. It is only in reaction to not wanting to seem gay that such behavior is now considered gay in America.

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CHV
2/15/2014 03:41:28 pm

Rumors that Lincoln was homosexual are chiefly grounded in a friendship he had with Joshua Speed in Springfield, Illinois, after the former arrived in town and had no place to live. Lincoln rented a room from Speed in his mercantile store, and the two shared a bed - leading to many of the "gay" stories about the two men.

However, in an age before central heating and cold winters, people often slept together to conserve warmth. There's nothing homoerotic about it. It was just practical.

Mike dantuono
2/15/2014 05:34:20 pm

Sure he wasn't that why h is girl left him over him ... awe did I bash your modern savior of humanity.
As far as 2 men holding hands is not gay but a sign of brotherhood. Find the information your self . I don't care what you think , the information must be on video I guess for you to watch him do these things. Plus this is common in the military.
Not just ours , but it dates back thousands of years. Call it what you want to . I'm to tired to argue with stubborn people, go find the data and make up your own story then. It was not my thinking that made him bi serial but his feelings and amount of time these two spent in the president's quarters alone .

RLewis
2/16/2014 02:29:32 am

I think there's probably more evidence that Lincoln was a vampire slayer than gay.

Mandalore
2/16/2014 03:27:59 am

Ah, yes, Mike Dantuono. The old "go find the evidence to support my argument yourself" argument.

Also, I find it odd that you think that you consider that your own statement of Lincoln being gay/bisexual is bashing the 'modern savior of humanity'. There's nothing wrong with being gay, just that there is no convincing argument that Lincoln was.

Cory
2/16/2014 12:56:05 pm

On the show "10 things you don't know about" just stated Lincoln slept with 3 different men. One for up to 4 years. He also fell in deep depression when Joshua Speed was leaving town. When Speed was leaving town he even hid razor blades from Lincoln before he left in fear he would commit suicide. Hmmm...

Jason Colavito link
2/16/2014 12:57:43 pm

Well, sharing a bed is technically "sleeping with," in the most literal sense.

Cory
2/16/2014 03:08:04 pm

Jason, do you get suicidal when the guy your sharing a bed with is leaving town? Things might have been different back then but he seems a bit too emotional about his buddy. That famous giant top hat is starting to make more sense now.

Mandalore
2/17/2014 04:05:52 am

Lincoln battled depression his entire life. There were many events, some minor, that sent him into a tailspin. (It didn't help that Mary Todd was kinda nuts.) So again, this event was not abnormal in any way.

schteveo
2/17/2014 04:15:09 am

If you want to see SEEMINGLY homosexual behavior, hang out with or around some hard core bikers for a while. They hug and carry on in ways, that would set off the 'gaydar' of most western males. I can't tell you how many times I've seen 4 men, sharing two queen beds, to save $$$ in a hotel. And by queen I mean bead size not clothing!

But quizzing them on ANY that stuff might gain you the @$$ kicking of your life!

mike dantuono
2/20/2014 10:07:21 am

As far as men's close relationship being close during that time , and women not being equal is a far fetched . Why? The leadership of the women is thousands of years old. Just for a point , Egypt had plenty of lady priests that ruled the empire for thousands of years. Second men being bi during the time of wars was promoted from the earliest wars on earth . I guess your Greek uncle Borat would know that in all your wisdom . IT was believed you would guard your lover better.
But what really is the point . Nothing is being solved in any of these blogs. This site is not for anything else but a bunch of over average ,under educated historical readers regurgitating stupidity without any sort of their own ideas ,even to put forward any sort of their own thinking or, anything that they have not read other than what they're regurgitating out of their mouth so I'm really tired of hearing people in this particular blog who have no sense.
WHY DID Lincoln PUT MOST BLACKS
on the front lines to die? Don't give me a story
Of his army did it, or he didn't know. He was around the battle fields plenty. He was aware.
Do any of you remember 1 plus 1 is two.... oh ya unless my 1 looks better then your 1... then it's what I say. Jason is not a historian , he's a writer who grabs as much as he can and feed it back to you with color. Like most in here. At least I'm not afraid to challenge the facts.
Also The KGC, yes this is possible of being part of the CIA. The connection with the skull and bones , and along with The Satanist Albert Pike don't care if I spelt his name right or not, do hold ground. This is due to the type of satan worship both groups were involved. Where they both are have similar stories .

Schteveo
2/20/2014 02:26:53 pm

...what were we supposed to solve?

As to women not being equal, I think that's STILL the case, and I'll openly say so. Quite the contrary, they are and always have been powerful. There's a movie quote that fits here, from, "My Big Fat Greek Wedding".
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"The man is the head, but the woman is the neck. And she can turn the head any way she wants."
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And that's been true since they started forcing us to wear a clean fur robe to the dinner table because her parents were coming to Sunday dinner!

An Over-Educated Grunt
2/21/2014 02:56:06 am

Mike -

I had an extensive reply drafted, but the fact is, your posts show a profound ignorance of the role of the USCT in the Civil War. For most of the war, black troops were explicitly not committed to combat, because their commanders feared two different forms of backlash. First, they were thought cowardly and incapable of sustaining military discipline. Second, there was a legitimate fear that losses sustained in combat would lead to exactly the nonsense that you're peddling, that Lincoln sent them to their deaths.

This was, I should add, in the teeth of the strongest, best-educated voice of the abolition movement, Frederick Douglass. Since you are on such shaky ground with your history already, I should point out that Douglass was an escaped slave who taught himself to read, bought his own freedom, and spent his life agitating from the radical wing of the Republican Party. It took Lincoln years to be willing to see him, but when he did, Lincoln was willing to say, in public, that there was no man whose opinion he valued more. Douglass is on record as having said the following:

"Once let the black man get upon his person the brass letter, U.S., let him get an eagle on his button, and a musket on his shoulder and bullets in his pocket, there is no power on earth that can deny that he has earned the right to citizenship."

Since you don't seem to understand how demonstrating your sources works, let me show you. I retrieved the above quote from the following page - http://www.archives.gov/education/lessons/blacks-civil-war/

It has a fairly good capsule history of black soldiers in the American Civil War. It doesn't have as much detail as I would like, but that's neither here nor there. I should, however, point out one example from personal experience, the first division-scale commitment of USCT units to combat at the Battle of the Crater, where General George Meade pulled the first fully-formed USCT division out of a planned and trained-for assault role because he feared they were too green and the potential political backlash (see above). Instead he committed a used-up white division that had no training for the assault, then threw the USCT troops in behind when Ledlie's 1st Division stalled. Even the Union troops who had seen four years of war by this point and wanted no more of it thought that the USCT men who not only went into the Crater, but came back out to gather water, then went back in to near-certain death thought that the myth of black combat inferiority had been defeated. I spent the last two years living next door to Petersburg NBP, and I can tell you that, even in its faded current form, the Crater still shows what they faced that day in 1864.

It would, of course, remain institutionalized well through World War 2, and all-black units remained in second-class roles generally kept well away from fighting because the leadership did not believe in their capacity for military life. As an example, the US Army has only raised two formal cavalry divisions since World War I. The 1st Cavalry Division is still around, has been in continuous establishment since the 1920s, and has an excellent combat record. The 2nd Cavalry Division (Colored) wound up being a purely administrative formation that was routinely looted for qualified personnel and equipment throughout its brief, miserable existence, and never given a chance to prove itself. "Black Jack" Pershing, who commanded the American Expeditionary Force in France in World War I and was one of a very small handful of individuals to be called General of the Armies of the United States, got his nickname for his unorthodox willingness to command colored troops when that move was seen as a career-destroyer.

I will not address your "hidden matriarchy" nonsense, but your knowledge of what Civil War policy for colored troops can be measured with a thimble and still fit an elephant in there.

Mike DAntuono
3/20/2014 10:03:37 am

Only a Army officer? Considered in America as gay. I don't think you live in the States. Being gay is accepted by common men. Not accepted by American Government. As far as the office his name was David Derrickson . But , no that is not the one I was speaking. I was referring to Speed. Maybe before you speak you should read more about it.

Harry
2/15/2014 04:07:04 pm

Okey dokey, then.

Jason, let me just say that I will be surprised if anyone else repeats this argument in the same words.

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Only Me
2/15/2014 06:17:54 pm

I'm grieving for the English language.

Prone
2/15/2014 04:14:20 pm

Discussing Bickley in your Background section, you say he "tried wearing a false bear to hide from his creditors but was eventually driven out of Ohio"

I am sure you meant "false beard" but this is an infinitely more entertaining mental image

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WellGwhiz
2/16/2014 06:52:55 am

No, no. You misundertand. Back to those days, them false beards were made out a bear ACTUAL fur. See, you cut in shape of face around BUTT of bear, and leave hole to speak through. ha!

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Prone
2/16/2014 05:49:02 pm

I feel like I just got a history lesson from Borat...

shcteveo
2/17/2014 05:41:29 am

Wow!

I'm never sure if I should accept the opinions / claims of ANYone, ANYwhere' on ANY site who starts their comment as either character assassination OR a spelling lesson. I wasn't aware that this site, nor any of others which I frequent, were run for, or by 3rd grade teachers, set up as spelling tests or spelling practice! If spelling was your primary thought, why even go to the topic? Just go grade some papers, be happy, happy, happy doing so.

Can we just go after each others sides of the arguments and not each other's typing / spelling abilities? I say that as someone who types one handed because of arthritis pain. Not saying that's the case in every instance of misspelling, but either way, WHY go after that kind of parc in a public forum and possibly expose someone's problems, be they physical or mental?

Having said that, I'll continue, on topic. I seriously doubt the claims of Lincoln being gay or bi. Not because it's not possible, but because I doubt it, based on the 'facts' I've seen presented, or more importantly the lack there of. Two letters do not a lifestyle make. And the thing about Speed and Lincoln is from people who don't know their history well.

I remember seeing a picture from the Klondike bar room. There's a sign over the bar that says, "No more than 5 to a Bed!" There were few enough women around, so those 5 HAD to be men. Undoubtedly some of the gold miners were gay, but just how many? Certainly not enough to warrant such a sign.

As to the rest of it on this episode, KGC, Iilluminati, Freemasons, NWO and the rest of this hidden or quasi-history, some of it is certainly so crazy sounding as to be ridiculous. But that doesn't mean we can just throw it ALL out, IMHO. When I see or hear people saying that 'this idea' or 'that data' should just be ignored, I always feel like throwing out any information, leaves us believing that Coelacanths are ALL dead, the giant panda, giant squid or okapi are NOT real, and that heavier-than-air ships are impossible.

(just think how many hard working, quick thinking gov't employees would be out of a job were that true...)

And the final thing I'll say is this, on Scott Wolter, his supporters and detractors and even I'll extending this out to any information on any sites across Al Gore's wonderful internet.

Just because you, whomever you are, have done the research, or heard about "X'' topic or "X" data 2 days ago, 2 years ago or 2 decades ago, and just because you have already worked through the data and come to a conclusion, your belittling or your outright telling other people to believe or disbelieve something based on YOUR work seems a little heavy handed and self-important. Do you believe what you believe because someone told you to?

My belief in Scott Wolter's work has truly gone way down, from when his show started. Prior to that I'd never heard of him but he originally seemed like a real researcher. I'd heard of some of the topics he was covering, so I started watching. If I give Scott Wolter anything now, it's that he seems to always say or imply, do your own discovery. Do your own thinking. Do some work and figure out what's true and what isn't.

...hmmm, to me, that seems like a good thing to do always, whether we're on Al Gores magical highway or not.

shcteveo
2/17/2014 05:42:07 am

Wow!

I'm never sure if I should accept the opinions / claims of ANYone, ANYwhere' on ANY site who starts their comment as either character assassination OR a spelling lesson. I wasn't aware that this site, nor any of others which I frequent, were run for, or by 3rd grade teachers, set up as spelling tests or spelling practice! If spelling was your primary thought, why even go to the topic? Just go grade some papers, be happy, happy, happy doing so.

Can we just go after each others sides of the arguments and not each other's typing / spelling abilities? I say that as someone who types one handed because of arthritis pain. Not saying that's the case in every instance of misspelling, but either way, WHY go after that kind of parc in a public forum and possibly expose someone's problems, be they physical or mental?

Having said that, I'll continue, on topic. I seriously doubt the claims of Lincoln being gay or bi. Not because it's not possible, but because I doubt it, based on the 'facts' I've seen presented, or more importantly the lack there of. Two letters do not a lifestyle make. And the thing about Speed and Lincoln is from people who don't know their history well.

I remember seeing a picture from the Klondike bar room. There's a sign over the bar that says, "No more than 5 to a Bed!" There were few enough women around, so those 5 HAD to be men. Undoubtedly some of the gold miners were gay, but just how many? Certainly not enough to warrant such a sign.

As to the rest of it on this episode, KGC, Iilluminati, Freemasons, NWO and the rest of this hidden or quasi-history, some of it is certainly so crazy sounding as to be ridiculous. But that doesn't mean we can just throw it ALL out, IMHO. When I see or hear people saying that 'this idea' or 'that data' should just be ignored, I always feel like throwing out any information, leaves us believing that Coelacanths are ALL dead, the giant panda, giant squid or okapi are NOT real, and that heavier-than-air ships are impossible.

(just think how many hard working, quick thinking gov't employees would be out of a job were that true...)

And the final thing I'll say is this, on Scott Wolter, his supporters and detractors and even I'll extending this out to any information on any sites across Al Gore's wonderful internet.

Just because you, whomever you are, have done the research, or heard about "X'' topic or "X" data 2 days ago, 2 years ago or 2 decades ago, and just because you have already worked through the data and come to a conclusion, your belittling or your outright telling other people to believe or disbelieve something based on YOUR work seems a little heavy handed and self-important. Do you believe what you believe because someone told you to?

My belief in Scott Wolter's work has truly gone way down, from when his show started. Prior to that I'd never heard of him but he originally seemed like a real researcher. I'd heard of some of the topics he was covering, so I started watching. If I give Scott Wolter anything now, it's that he seems to always say or imply, do your own discovery. Do your own thinking. Do some work and figure out what's true and what isn't.

...hmmm, to me, that seems like a good thing to do always, whether we're on Al Gores magical highway or not.

shcteveo
2/17/2014 05:42:44 am

Wow!

I'm never sure if I should accept the opinions / claims of ANYone, ANYwhere' on ANY site who starts their comment as either character assassination OR a spelling lesson. I wasn't aware that this site, nor any of others which I frequent, were run for, or by 3rd grade teachers, set up as spelling tests or spelling practice! If spelling was your primary thought, why even go to the topic? Just go grade some papers, be happy, happy, happy doing so.

Can we just go after each others sides of the arguments and not each other's typing / spelling abilities? I say that as someone who types one handed because of arthritis pain. Not saying that's the case in every instance of misspelling, but either way, WHY go after that kind of parc in a public forum and possibly expose someone's problems, be they physical or mental?

Having said that, I'll continue, on topic. I seriously doubt the claims of Lincoln being gay or bi. Not because it's not possible, but because I doubt it, based on the 'facts' I've seen presented, or more importantly the lack there of. Two letters do not a lifestyle make. And the thing about Speed and Lincoln is from people who don't know their history well.

I remember seeing a picture from the Klondike bar room. There's a sign over the bar that says, "No more than 5 to a Bed!" There were few enough women around, so those 5 HAD to be men. Undoubtedly some of the gold miners were gay, but just how many? Certainly not enough to warrant such a sign.

As to the rest of it on this episode, KGC, Iilluminati, Freemasons, NWO and the rest of this hidden or quasi-history, some of it is certainly so crazy sounding as to be ridiculous. But that doesn't mean we can just throw it ALL out, IMHO. When I see or hear people saying that 'this idea' or 'that data' should just be ignored, I always feel like throwing out any information, leaves us believing that Coelacanths are ALL dead, the giant panda, giant squid or okapi are NOT real, and that heavier-than-air ships are impossible.

(just think how many hard working, quick thinking gov't employees would be out of a job were that true...)

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shcteveo
2/17/2014 05:43:53 am

Wow!

I'm never sure if I should accept the opinions / claims of ANYone, ANYwhere' on ANY site who starts their comment as either character assassination OR a spelling lesson. I wasn't aware that this site, nor any of others which I frequent, were run for, or by 3rd grade teachers, set up as spelling tests or spelling practice! If spelling was your primary thought, why even go to the topic? Just go grade some papers, be happy, happy, happy doing so.

Can we just go after each others sides of the arguments and not each others typing / spelling abilities? I say that as someone who types one handed because of arthritis pain. Not saying that's the case in every instance of misspelling, but either way, WHY go after that kind of parc in a public forum and possibly expose someone's problems, be they physical or mental?

Schteveo
2/17/2014 02:00:56 pm

HOLY sheep dip Batman, not again, I'm sorry about the multiple comments. I've had that same thing happen in other places, and it started happening after I got this newest update from Firefox.

Anyone else seeing it?

Again, sorry for screwing u your Comment section Jason.

Martin R
2/15/2014 04:41:05 pm

Jason, so what you're telling me is...maybe, possibly, this show could have been, most likely a bunch of hooey? Of course. But it allowed AU to use some footage from previous episodes, including the radar survey. By the way, since James lived to an old age, did I miss something, or did this episode say where the rescued John Wilkes Booth lived out his remaining years?

I was actually looking forward to this one because I actually have studied the period and the assassination. No, there was not a conspiracy outside the bumblers who actually made up the unseemly gang of idiots who somehow succeeded.

It would be surprising if Booth did not have some secret code among his belongings. In his fevered mind, JWB saw himself as a savior to the Confederacy. The rest of it was typical AU.

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Only Me
2/15/2014 04:52:21 pm

I guess it's because I've seen older documentaries about Jesse James and John Wilkes Booth and his Confederate conspirators in Canada, that I felt there was nothing new in this episode. I am happy to say that every one of Scott's guests immediately triggered my BS detector, and thanks to your background, I now know why.

I must admit to being mildly surprised at next week's episode. Why "investigate" Polynesians arriving in North America, when there is compelling evidence that they made it to South America? Is this an attempt to say, "See! It's not all about Europeans"?

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Walt
2/15/2014 05:22:37 pm

It never has been all about Europeans, though that's been repeated enough times by people at this blog for it to have been accepted as fact. The very first episode was Mayans in Georgia, for example. He also covered Polynesians in another episode, and Aztecs in another.

The theme of the show is "everything we were taught growing up is wrong" so anything that contradicts anything in anyone's old history book is fair game I guess. I don't think he's racist at all or cares from which continent the "alternate history" comes. Europe just happens to be the source of most such stories. If the show produces enough episodes, I think he'll ultimately cover every group of people from every continent if he can find any story whatsoever.

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Walt
2/15/2014 05:55:45 pm

For reference, it looks like only 11 out of 25 episodes, or 44%, are about Europeans, and 14 out of 25, or 56%, are about something other than Europeans.

Jason Colavito link
2/15/2014 10:43:34 pm

20 out of 26 episodes deal directly with "white" people as loosely defined (European or European-adjacent) or with the "mysteries" of the Templars and/or Freemasons, which Wolter has tied specifically to knowledge of the European or European-adjacent voyages to America. That's 77%. Shows that have no connection whatsoever to Europe number 4, or 5 if you count the Great Wall of Texas for mentioning the Chinese alongside Bible giants. In the first season, 12 out of 13 were about Europeans, the exception being the Mayan episode specifically commissioned by H2 to tie in to the Maya Apocalypse programming of Dec. 21, 2012 (i.e., not Wolter's idea). One episode, this current one, is not related to ancient history and does not mention prehistory at all.

Those are the fact. You may proceed to spin them.

Jason Colavito link
2/15/2014 10:49:22 pm

First, I obviously have a typo above. It should read "facts."

Second, would it make you feel better if we defined the people not as "white" or "European" but as "ancient Old World peoples viewed as contributing directly to modern Western civilization"? I think that should just about cover Europe and the ancient Near East under one umbrella.

Only Me
2/15/2014 06:15:06 pm

I was being facetious.

And I have never implied or stated that Scott is racist.

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Walt
2/15/2014 07:15:07 pm

Hmm, "I must admit to being mildly surprised..." doesn't seem facetious at all. But, ok.

And, yes, you did imply Scott was racist when you were being "facetious" about his show only being about Europeans. What other explanation for such a show would there be?

These are the sorts of issues Jason should correct if he wants to be unbiased. He's misleading his followers as badly as AU is.

Only Me
2/16/2014 03:49:54 am

That's your opinion, Walt. I'm already on record multiple times explicitly stating that Scott was *not* racist. My problem has been his adoption of ideas that were revealed to be tainted by the racist views that were considered acceptable at the time they were proposed. I've said more than once that he needs to practice more objectivity concerning these ideas, to avoid bringing race into the picture.

I've seen every episode of AU. That's why I made a joke, poorly received though it may have been, about next week's episode. If you don't understand that AU is about proving every alternate history claim that *someone* discovered America before Columbus (a fact that is already acknowledged true via L'Anse-Aux-Meadows) through shoddy research and total acceptance of said claims without evidence, and that a transcontinental Templar legacy is still being covered up, I can't help you.

By the way, I am quite capable of making my own judgments of Jason's research, based on what is presented. So far, he hasn't mislead me on anything, because, guess what? I can follow the links he provides and do my own Internet search of the subject matter.

Jeanne
2/18/2014 07:36:02 am

Scott is about money for Scott, not much else. No one with a conscience could knowingly try to teach people stupidity as he does.

Schteveo
2/18/2014 08:47:47 am

Walt,
SW has said he believes Asians and Polynesians had settlements in N. America and traded with Native Americans.

But regardless of that, I don't get ANYTHING not one iota of a hint from his show / web presence / writing that makes me think he does any of it from a White Guy promoting White Guy and detracting from NON-White Guys stance.

If you've got particulars, I'm open to looking at them.

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Jeanne
so are yo saying he doesn't believe what he says, he's just in it for the $$$$. He's a professional hypocrite, in other words?

Dan
2/15/2014 05:05:24 pm

While the previous episodes of AU dealt with issues about which I'm not particularly knowledgeable, I have in fact studied Civil War and Lincoln Assassination history for more than 25 years.

The most offensive claim made in this show was the idea that Booth was captured a "short time after the assassination" and somehow escaped and lived for years, while a "patsy" was killed in the barn fire on Garrett's farm.
Firstly, Booth shot Lincoln on April 14, 1865 and was captured and killed on April 26, 1865 -- nearly two weeks later. The "Knights" didn't secretly and miraculously save Booth. Booth's movements during his flight are very well documented and can be followed through Southern Maryland into Northern Virginia. Its a route I've traveled a half-dozen times, and the guide markers are ubiquitous from Mary Surratt's tavern to Dr. Mudd's house to the Cox House to the woods near present-day La Plata.
And of course, he wasn't alone. David Herold accompanied Booth throughout the entire period and was not killed at Garrett's Farm but survived through a full interrogation until he was hanged for his part in the conspiracy.
Garrett's Farm no longer exists but the land is now part of Fort A.P. Hill. Here's a recent photo we took there:
http://bit.ly/1cbyIxG

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Titus pullo
2/16/2014 12:54:57 am

Sounds like taking my wife to dinner and not taping the show was a good move.

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Bill
2/16/2014 12:59:54 am

Edward Duffield Neill (ED Neill) was not a private secretary to Lincoln. He was a chaplain who knew Lincoln and worked in the White House (see his bio). Lincoln had three private secretaries: John Hay, John Nicolay and William Stoddard (see book: Lincoln’s Men by Daniel Epstein). Just to be clear....

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Jason Colavito link
2/16/2014 01:03:21 am

My apologies. I should have said "correspondence secretary," which was Neill's title during the year in question. I'll fix it.

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Harry
2/16/2014 07:01:14 am

And, please notice, Lincoln had no secretary named Kennedy.

I mention that because it is a mild example of how fringe claims sometimes get started. Someone noticed and presumably reported that Lincoln had two secretaries named John and John Kennedy had a secretary named Lincoln. He/she or someone else then confused "John" with "Kennedy." Ever since, various people have repeated the claim that Lincoln had a secretary named Kennedy and Kennedy had a secretary named Lincoln, without bothering to confirm its accuracy.

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m wilson
2/17/2014 03:44:08 am

Thanks for that. I'd heard that for years.
So did the Templars kill Kennedy or not? I'm confused. ;)

RLewis
2/16/2014 02:43:08 am

I still believe they will eventually try to tie all of these episodes back to their main theme: the Knights Templar. Attributes of all of these secret societies will be cherry-picked and melded together into one "proven" fact of pre-Columbian occupancy.
You can also bet that the Oak Island treasure will be tied directly to the "hundreds of millions" in gold and silver hidden by the KGC.

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Mark E.
2/16/2014 10:40:45 am

One does have to wonder if they will attempt to "jump the shark" at some point.

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RLewis
2/21/2014 02:53:04 am

Ha!, Called it...

(from SW blog 2/20)
That the KGC keep their stashes of cash moving makes a lot of sense, perhaps even to this day. This "keeping things moving" strategy reminds me of the Knights Templar who did the same thing when they brought tangible "treasure" (likely gold, silver, scrolls with ancient knowledge of science, technology, architecture, etc., important human remains...) to North America prior to Columbus. I think there was something at Oak Island in the past, but it was almost certainly moved centuries ago as agents of the Church and Royal monarchies followed them to the New World

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An Over-Educated Grunt
2/21/2014 02:58:52 am

As opposed to all those non-royal monarchies...

This is ridiculous, because during transport, it's subject to ambush, seizure, and regular old pilfering, and for large amounts of bullion, there's no way to keep it secret for long enough to do you the amount of good you need.

Mark
2/16/2014 05:03:07 am

What qualifies Scott as a historian now going around trying to solve this "mystery?" This show had nothing to do with geology until the ground penetrating radar entered the episode in the last minutes. He is going outside of his field and credentials. This episode was not written well and I still have many questions that were left unanswered.
Jason, on a side note, on Scott's blog, I asked him to mention or provide links to his peer reviewed writings. He kept mentioning that in his last blog and I simply and politely asked to just expose this he deleted my comment and it is forever gone. What are your thoughts?

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Rev. Phil Gotsch
2/16/2014 08:21:20 am

Necessary reminder:

Scott Wolter is the HOST of the "America Unearthed" H2 TV shows …

They are commercially produced and aired to attract a viewing audience that will stick around long enough to see at least some of the paid adverts which are the only source of revenue for production and distribution ...

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Matt Mc
2/16/2014 09:01:23 am

So the fact that AU is a TV show is the reason that Wolter had no idea what a peer review is? I guess he deletes post because H2 says he should.

I get it Phil, I get it.

Jason Colavito link
2/16/2014 12:53:13 pm

I couldn't possibly speak as to what is in Scott Wolter's head. Another correspondent informed me today that geologists sign their reports with a professional license seal, and their colleagues often review and sign on to the findings, which are admissible as evidence in a court of law. This appears to be the origin of his claim to "peer review."

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Will
2/16/2014 05:05:59 am

How does geology factor into this episode?

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Tara Jordan link
2/16/2014 05:18:38 am

I think it is becoming more & more difficult to comment on Scott Wolter & his America Unearthed program.Everyting we could say has already being told over & over again.After watching this particular episode,it became obvious that Scott doesn't understand what stands behind the very definition of research.He takes extreme liberties with both the scientific methodology & historiography.In addition, Wolter is most probably very sincere about his beliefs & activism.This could explain why he adopts such hypodermic reaction to criticisms.

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JeffSPE
2/16/2014 05:51:09 am

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RLewis
2/16/2014 06:05:15 am

SW was on "Dr. John"'s radio show in Feb 25, 2012. This is probably no surprise (and that they are friends) - but I thought it was interesting that DeSalvo stated that SW had tested and validated all of his (DeSalvo's) artifacts. Now I feel like we should question all of his Lincoln memorabilia.

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Zach
2/16/2014 06:14:36 am

And yet there goes another episode that has nothing to do with the show's premise. I could tell right away from this episode that H2 was just trying to rehash material that they had Brad Meltzer's Decoded take on. Unfortunately for Decoded, they didn't have the ratings that this show had, and of course had to bring it back. *sighs* It's really getting frustrating how this show can take history and distort it. I've read into Lincoln's life and the Civil War since I was a kid, and it got so much wrong just for the sake of the conspiracy theorist crowd that slobbers all over this stuff.

By the way, thanks for messaging me back Jason, Joshi's books were a big help. I should hopefully be getting Lévy's book soon!

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Deb
2/16/2014 06:51:48 am

The whole thing about Jesse James never taking any of the money he stole for himself is also BS. That comes from bad sourcing. A journalist who was friendly to Jesse would write possitively spun articles about him on a regular basis making him look heroic and doing this for to get back at the Yankees rather than what Jesse really was -- a murderous, theiving thug.

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Harry
2/16/2014 07:32:35 am

I looked up the entry for "John Wilkes Booth" in my 1971 edition Encyclopedia Britannica. One of the eight sentences reads as follows: "He sympathized with the south in the American Civil War, and in 1865 organized a conspiracy to assassinate the president, the vice-president and members of the cabinet."

I did not see this episode, but if Wolter did not know that Wilkes was part of a conspiracy or that Lincoln was not the only target, he really failed to do even the most basic research on his own.

One thing I did not notice in this review was a reference to "Jesse James' Hidden Treasure," a 2009 History Channel (what else?) documentary that also claimed that the outlaw might have survived.

By the way, Jason, for someone with no interest in modern history, you did a great job of separating fact from fiction, in my opinion.

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Mark E.
2/16/2014 09:49:20 am

Wolter appeared to have no knowledge of the conspiracy to assassinate Lincoln, saying something of the effect that he thought it was a lone gunman.

Another unusual knowledge gap was that he new nothing of Quantrill's Raiders which is hard to miss if you do any research on Jesse James.

It does leave you scratching your head. Was no basic research on the topic done or is this a script device to help lead the conversation with the "experts"?

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yakko
2/18/2014 03:36:10 pm

It totally does not surprise me that these people don't even bother to look things up in an encyclopedia.

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Will
2/16/2014 08:41:59 am

I think at this point, especially with this episode, that regardless of Wolter's actual opinions on these topics it is impossible to divorce him from the fringe history roots they come from.

Whether or not he is just the host or is leading the charge at America Unearthed, it is clear that he is at least complicit in disseminating copious amounts bogus information.

I am not sure of the overall implications, but as far as rational criticism he has it coming in droves. Separating him from the ideas he presents is like separating Michael Jackson from pop music.

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2/17/2014 05:07:47 am

That Wolter is right about the ideas at the start. About that runestone in minnesota, how its genuinely not fake. Good break! But land claim? Wrong one more time, again, it seem to be for me.

Okay, Here now then, we go first, see NO runestone there on that hill. Only Gunn's stone holes! Them norse kind of people (white) made a map. That place was on a map. Why they put that runestone there? Because people will come back to see them stone holes. What else will they see? Yeah, now including that runestone.

Wolter said it wrong first and then even worser about land claims! Them claims throws MANY THINGTS off! Okay then, that runestone wasn't very buryed, for people to see it, right? You may wonder about why them stone holes were, and about how come they came earlier, before?

Gunn said "go West, old man Scot". Look for some real thing, one more time. Forget that land claim at the hill, Thats ONLY a memorial runestone for a ALREADY KNOWED ABOUT about map spot. Remember what Gunn said about that in that in land compass line! About a map and not lost.

Hey! I saw right there where on my google map where that Gunn pointed West, Right there to that little river. Yeah, Whetstone. Yeah, stone holes like mushrooms!

So Scot don't forget where Gunn said "look!!"! This is that most likely place (Pow!) where the Templers Treasure will not only be, but also see day-time-light soon. You help, okay? Hey, look! Sparkels in that water!!!

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2/16/2014 12:25:45 pm

This was the first episode I've ever simply been unable to finish. I got to the 24-minute mark, including commercials, and frankly the high point of this episode was Tara's description of Wolter's reaction to criticism as "hypodermic." That was a neatly turned phrase, elegantly done, and were I to wear hats, I'd tip it.

The Lincoln assassination is the one time a conspiracy has ever been proven in the assassination of an American president, and the blood trail from Ford's Theater to the tobacco barn is among the most obsessively documented in modern history. As Jason said, there's precious little to argue in documentation in this case, the facts are painfully well documented.

One thing I'd like to hit over the head with a hammer a few dozen times: the odds of the Confederate leadership being in league with the Catholic Church are somewhere between laughable and imaginary. The upper echelons of the civil government in Richmond were, almost to a man, Episcopalian, which means if they were going to be in league with a European monarchical branch of Christianity, it would be Church of England. The obvious exception is Judah P. Benjamin, who, as his name suggests, is clearly a Jesuit spy sent by the Papacy.

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2/17/2014 01:21:18 pm

Thank you Sir.

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yakko
2/18/2014 03:40:30 pm

I've been saying for years that we shouldn't worry about Jews secretly running the government - it's all those darned Episcopalians! I recently checked out the known religious affiliations of Congress and the Supreme Court, though, and I think we'd better start keeping a closer eye on those Papists as well. :-)

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PaulN. link
3/19/2014 07:42:10 pm

It is interesting to note that Judah P. Benjamin, born and raised Jewish, served in three different cabinet level posts. First as Attorney General, next as Secretary of War, finally as Secretary of State. After the war he escaped to Great Britain where he had a successful career as a barrister.in corporate law.

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Michael Haynes
2/17/2014 01:27:19 am

I couldn't watch this episode until last night (2/16) because of work, but now I'm wondering, for the first time since America Unearthed aired, if it was even worth watching. I've always had a fascination with weird sites and artifacts, which is what drew me to watching this series in the first place. I've never cared for the conspiracy theories and secret organizations that the show always ties to these -- I just wanted to see the sites and artifacts and maybe, just maybe, get some real information about them. But this episode was just plain baffling to comprehend.

I can barely begin to point out some things that the show completely failed/ignored to recognize, but there are a few points that stood out for me. The first was seeing Union Secretary of War Edward Stanton's picture as a possible Knight of the Golden Circle member. Granted, he was no particular friend of Lincoln's, but the guy responsible for managing the Union military is now a member of an enemy organization dedicated to defeating the Union? Why wasn't General George McClellan's picture included in the circle? His abysmal battle record would have made him a better candidate for Knight membership.

The second point came when the show alludes to General U.S. Grant's refussal to attend the play at Ford's Theatre because he was given a heads-up that something bad was going to happen there. So Grant was going to throw Lincoln, the one politician -- practically the one human being -- who believed in Grant's abilities, under the train?

The last point has to do with the Confederate gold, which is probably the most fictitious aspect of the show's content because there never was any. The Confederate economy collapsed within a year of being founded, and Jeff Davis' government operated in bankruptcy for the rest of the war. Why were they sqiurreling away hundreds of millions of dollars when that money was so desperately needed to fight the Union? In my travels, I've met several people who have told stories of their ancestors hiding jars of money during the Civil War, but these were always individual efforts to hide their wealth from marauding troops (both North and South). None of them, however, have ever claimed this was for the establishment of a resurrected Confederacy, but for pure survival in the war's aftermath.

You'd think that at least one person at America Unearthed would have known something about the Civil War, but I guess that would be asking too much.

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B L
2/17/2014 05:17:04 am

The novelist David Brody, who promotes Templar theories alongside Scott Wolter, attacked me in a recent blog post, accusing me of having “a visceral reaction every time Scott reaches a conclusion that runs contrary to accepted dogma,” driven by emotion and “quasi-irrational” hatred of Scott Wolter. He asserted that my “criticism is borne of jealousy,”

As if followers of Scott Wolter don't have an opposite emotional, visceral reaction every time Scott Wolter subjectively pieces together another misinterpreted clue in his on-going Templar narrative.

The difference between Wolter supporters and Colavito supporters as I see it is....

People who deal in facts, concrete evidence, and proof (Colavito supporters) assume that everyone should be interested in and able to check facts for themselves. We also assume that those facts once found should speak for themselves. The visceral reaction doesn't come from personal dislike of Wolter, but instead comes from the disappointment of knowing that a good number of people are willing to take Wolter at his word thereby discounting out of hand a mountain of REAL and OBJECTIVE evidence.

Conversely, followers of Wolter become emotionally motivated to protect a friend's reputation.

Both groups are guilty of letting emotions run too loose sometimes. However, one group starts the conversation with supportable facts when the other group starts their side of the conversation with misleading personal claims about the disagreeing party.

Both may be technically wrong, but one is far more wrong than the other.

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B L
2/17/2014 08:48:44 am

What insults me the most is the way Wolter assumes his audience is comprised of idiots. Early in this episode Wolter makes the claim that most people think Booth acted alone. Anyone who has done even the most basic of study on the subject knows that Lincoln's assassination wasn't that simple. What he should have said was "Knowing little to nothing about history I think in grade school 40 years ago I was taught that Booth acted alone".

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Gary Lee Fischer
2/17/2014 04:17:23 pm

The highlight of my collection

Civil War Roll Book and Diary Combined

This officer was stationed in Washington and almost hour by hour

"April 14th, 1865 12 P. M. It is just reported that President Lincoln has benn shot and some other person stabbed."

"April 15th, 6 A. M. Reports say the president is mortally wounded by an assassin at Ford's Theater ."

DeSalvo makes no mention of the officer's name and both DeSalvo and Wolter handle the "highlight of my [DeSalvo] collection" without gloves as Wolter often does--I cannot forget the use a a well drilling machine to find the Ark of the Covenant.

It strikes me odd the the time stamp of April 14th 12 P. M. Occurs exactly 10 hours, 13 minutes before Booth fired the Ford's Theater shot.

I do give Wolter credit that he has kept the show interesting enough for me to watch every episode. I have learned to discount the self-fulfilling prophecies and accept the show for its entertainment value.

I likewise respect your research and grounding you provide.

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Harry
2/17/2014 10:55:49 pm

For those who are interested, the "other person stabbed" was Secretary of State William H. Seward, in a brutal attack in Seward's bedroom by Lewis Powell. Powell claimed to have medicine for Seward, who was sick. When Seward's son, Fred, told him to come back in the morning, Powell pistol whipped him, causing his gun to jam, so the knife was the only weapon he had that worked. Powell was caught, convicted of conspiracy and treason and executed.

A third assassin was assigned to Vice President Johnson, but never went through with the deed, something that did not stop him from being convicted and executed as well.

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RLewis
2/18/2014 01:14:26 am

I'm sure he was referring to 12 midnight.

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B L
2/18/2014 02:28:45 pm

I just checked David Brody's blog. He doesn't specifically state that YOU have the visceral reaction he referred to. Rather, he claims that SOME of Scott's detractors seem to have a visceral reaction. He then goes on to give an example that he experienced first hand.

In an earlier comment not directly related to the "visceral reaction" comment he cites your blog as having questioned Scott's Bat Creek Stone results. Instead of making a personal attack he rationally asks a rebuttal question or two.

I'm no fan of Wolter's, but I do think that Brody is one of his more fair and level-headed supporters. Another plus for Brody? He at least labels his American Templar books as fiction.

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Jason Colavito link
2/18/2014 10:31:40 pm

It's quite obvious that he is referring to me because he links to my blog and cites specific details from my work.

His rational questions are all questions that were asked and answered decades ago. For example, he wonders why a hoaxer would use Paleo-Hebrew for Cherokee since the Cherokee had writing already. Cherokee writing was a modern invention; Emmert was trying to create a reasonable facsimile of ANCIENT Cherokee writing, from before the current alphabet, and grabbed an example of what he thought would have been the world's "original' alphabet--the one God himself delivered at the dawn of time.

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Gary Lee Fischer
2/23/2014 05:09:27 pm

I took a closer look at the map and I can't find its source....Indiana is entirely wrong as it shows Lake Michigan hitting in the center and the Western border is entirely wrong.

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Alan
2/25/2014 02:31:52 pm

Why has he got such a hair up his arse about The Smithsonian? Possibly because they also have a TV network that produces shows that are a little more fact and a little less hysteria. It almost seems like the show is trying to rewrite American History just for the sake of 60 mins of entertainment. Making things square pegs fit round holes. I'm British and as such I grew up reading from different history books. I've lived in America for 12 years now and I find it a shame that shows like this attempt to make American history align more with European History and cultures when there's already a very culturally rich Native American history here. Sure no one can doubt the claims that ancient travellers could have crossed the oceans, but by filling the gaps with BS it does nothing but make the claims less convincing rather than provoke intelligent discussion. Ironically I live 2 miles from Americas Stonehenge gestured on one of the episodes. The whole drawing the line through to Stonehenge and on to the Middle East was cringe worthy at best and it doesn't take a scholar to figure out why. That said , the site is an interesting place to visit and certainly does appear to be much older than modern America. Prob Native American.

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dr. james willingham
12/13/2014 12:49:41 pm

My great grandfather worked for a Jesse James (there were apparently five or more of them, according to all that I could find). He did not believe Jesse was killed in St. Joe, probably due to the fact that he saw him after the fact. I also ran into information about the KGC being present in California as early as 1850. This information was totally independent of all information that I had on that organization. Moreover, a former Catholic Priest, Father Chiniquy, whom Lincoln apparently defended in court left a written account about Catholic involvement in the assassination. At least one of the conspirators spent a number of years after the war in the relative safety of the Swiss Guard and then returned to the USA and was never prosecuted. Moreover, the only nation to recognize the Confederacy was the Vatican.

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