I hope you will forgive me if this episode’s review is a bit shorter than some of my earlier efforts. I injured my wrist today when I slipped on some ice and fell while trying to clear some snow. I’m trying not to aggravate it too much with excessive typing. BackgroundIn keeping with that, I was trying to think of how I could possibly condense three years’ worth of discussion of the Knights Templar, the Holy Bloodline of Jesus, and the other threadbare “mysteries” of Scott Wolter’s world to compile a background section for this two-part season finale. It seemed ridiculous to rewrite the same background I provided as far back as the season one episode “Tracking the Templars” and as recently as the Templar-themed episode of Curse of Oak Island a few weeks ago. So, rather than devote excessive space to something that most readers already know, I collected my previous coverage of the Templar and Holy Bloodline claims as a nearly 8,000-word compilation that covers pretty much everything about the groundless speculation that Jesus and Mary Magdalene had children, that the Knights Templar protect their bloodline, and that the Templars traveled to North America. The only thing that isn’t in there is material about the Hooked X®, the variant “A” Norse rune that Wolter believes represents the penis of Jesus penetrating the womb of Mary Magdalene to implant a Jesus-baby (the “hook”) within. That material I covered in my review of “Tracking the Templars,” for which the current episode is a more or less direct sequel. The EpisodeSegment 1 We open with a disclaimer that the H2 network (or rather, “this network,” since the show also re-airs on History and other global broadcasters) doesn’t share Scott Wolter’s “controversial” theories. If there is ever better proof that the H2 network is starting to regret the problems caused by the dumb ideas broadcast over their air, this is it. I am frankly shocked to see such a disclaimer, especially since Ancient Aliens has never warranted such a disclaimer. But for a channel whose parent, History, makes a good chunk of its money off Bible-themed programs, anything that smacks of insulting a core audience has to be dealt with. After the disclaimer we watch some Templars burn in the raids of 1307 followed by an assertion that some escaped by ship. Then we cut to the opening credits. After this, Wolter says that he believes that the Knights Templar brought the Holy Bloodline to America. In southwestern Pennsylvania, Wolter rides through the woods on a yellow ATV and then hops off, grabbing his trusty backpack. He stops through some trees to look at a rock on which a tipster informs Wolter that there is a carving of a Hooked X®. The crude Norse-style engraving shows a Christian cross within two concentric circles forming the body of a serpent. Several runes fill the space between the two circle, along with the Roman numerals for 1206 (MCCVI). The tipster, Bill Carney, and his friend Bill Laney tell Wolter that he just found the stone in May 2014. Laney tells Wolter that he is a true believer in hyperdiffusionism (“Good for you,” Wolter says). Wolter bizarrely states that the Templars “used runes” and therefore are the most likely to be the real carvers of the stone if it were real. The Templars are not known to have written in runes. The connection to the Templars comes entirely from Wolter’s claim that the “Hooked X®” is a symbol of Jesus impregnating Mary Magdalene. Wolter tells the tipsters that there is “a lot of truth” to the Da Vinci Code, and he explains that the existence of the Holy Bloodline would undermine the Roman Catholic Church, necessitating the extermination of the Templars to keep the popes in power. Immediately after trying to clean the runes, Wolter discovers that they are packed with mud and glue. He declares the stone a hoax. The question then is whether the stone was hoaxed to draw Wolter’s attention. We go to commercial without an answer. During the break a promo informs me that Hangar 1: The UFO Files is returning for a new season even after they were caught fabricating government documents last year. Where is the disclaimer on that one? Segment 2 After a recap, Wolter explains the crude fakery of the hoax runes, and the tipsters deny being involved in fabricating the carving. Wolter explains that the carving is less than four years old, and he suspects that someone intended to fool him. “I know some people are scared of what I think is the truth,” Wolter said. He claims that the hoax was designed to combat Wolter’s Holy Bloodline theory by trying to make him “look stupid and therefore cast doubt on the work that I’ve done.” I’d imagine that the intention was probably to get attention rather than to carve a symbol that would take down the Hooked X® once and for all. Wolter keeps pressing the tipsters to find out who was responsible for this attempt to humiliate him. “It motivates me even more,” Wolter says, to prove that the Templars were responsible for creating the United States as a sanctuary for Jesus genes. We go to another commercial, having accomplished nothing but a thorough stroking of Wolter’s ego. Segment 3 After the break, Wolter is back on his ATV. He returns to his SUV to talk to Steve St. Clair and to report to St. Clair that the stone is a fake. He tells St. Clair that he has another artifact lined up, and St. Clair tells Wolter that he is in France researching St. Clair family ties to the Templars. St. Clair tells Wolter that he “maybe” has changed his mind about whether Henry I Sinclair, Earl of Orkney had a connection to the Knights Templar, something St. Clair has denied for years. In Troyes, France, Wolter tells us that St. Clair has a “credible Templar connection” and he heavily implies that St. Clair is a descendant of Jesus Christ. Wolter discusses the founding of the Templar order, and St. Clair describes that Templars as a medieval police force aimed at keeping the Holy Land safe. The two men talk about Bernard de Clairvaux, who secured papal recognition for the order, and Hugues de Payens, who wrote the Latin Rule followed by the order. St. Clair tells Wolter that he has found evidence that the Sinclair family gave money to Templar-affiliated organizations. Wolter reviews the Season 1 finale, which sought the Holy Grail in Nova Scotia, but he seems to have very little understanding of the intellectual underpinnings of his “research” into the “physical bloodline of Jesus and Mary.” Wolter claims that the Templars found scrolls in Jerusalem that proved that Jesus was married and that the Church covered it up to protect its power. I’m not quite sure (a) why the Eastern Church didn’t seem to care for the three centuries it controlled Jerusalem before the Islamic conquest of 637 and (b) why the Islamic rulers of Jerusalem didn’t publicize this information to help prove that the Qur’an’s version of Jesus (human, survived crucifixion, etc.) was in fact the correct one. Segment 4 This segment opens with a repeat of the disclaimer that Wolter’s opinions “are not shared by this network, but are ideas to be explored.” Wolter then gives a verbal recap of his journey so far, but in doing so he sounds like a street preacher ranting about conspiracies on the street corner. Steve St. Clair tells Wolter that he thinks he has evidence of the Holy Bloodline. He shows Wolter a church that was constructed atop a Merovingian necropolis. The Merovingians, overthrown by Pepin the Short, were accused of being Jesus-spawn in the Holy Blood and the Holy Grail, but it was all based on Pierre de Plantard’s Priory of Sion hoax. Once again, Wolter seems unware of the history of his own ideas. Sadly, if there is ignorance to be had, Alan Butler has to be on hand. He, after all, is the man who believes that time travelers founded the Freemasons and constructed the Moon. Butler recaps some of the same material he provided to Curse of Oak Island a few weeks ago, and he seems to enjoy traveling across Europe on History/H2’s dime. In a year he’s gotten free trips to Washington, D.C., Scotland, France, and more. Butler, at least, recognizes that Wolter’s implication that the Templar order’s suppression on Friday, October 13, 1307 is not the origin the fear of Friday the 13th. Sadly, though, Wolter asserts that the number 13 is the symbol of the “goddess.” He says that Mary Magdalene is the goddess because her name starts with the thirteenth letter of the alphabet, a neat trick considering that the “J” (letter 10) was only added to the alphabet in the Middle Ages (as a variant of “I”), and only distinguished as its own letter in 1524. On the other hand, Butler tells us that after the commercial he’s planning to tie Leonardo da Vinci into his Templar fantasies. Segment 5
After an onscreen recap, Butler tells Wolter that “we are led to believe” that Leonardo da Vinci visited the Knights Templars’ training grounds in France. Leonardo lived two hundred years after the Templars were suppressed, so Butler’s only connection is the “symbolism” from the novel The Da Vinci Code, in which he sees Leonardo as encoding the “goddess” Mary Magdalene in his art. This isn’t logical, since even if Leonardo’s paintings had crypto-women in them, it does not follow that such women were goddesses or symbols of Holy Bloodlines. “You know what, guys? Dan Brown’s book, The Da Vinci Code, may be more fact than fiction,” Wolter says. Wolter tells us that only the Templars could wear white uniforms. Butler tells Wolter that the red cross of the Templars represents “the feminine,” presumably because of menstrual blood. Otherwise, I can’t fathom why this red would be feminine, but not, say, the red field on which the gold lions of the English arms prance, or the red dragon that symbolizes King Arthur and Wales. From the Middle Ages to the twentieth century blue was associated with women, while men were associated with red. (This was because the Church began depicting the Virgin Mary in blue, the color worn by Byzantine empresses.) Segment 6 In this segment, Wolter declares that he is interested in another letter of the alphabet, because this is some horrifying film noir version of Sesame Street. Wolter claims that he and he alone can see that a completely normal hand gesture is in fact an M, for Mary Magdalene. The gesture is formed by the middle and ring fingers staying together while the index and pinky fingers are spread away from them. The thing is, as I noted in my review of Wolter’s book, Akhenaten to the Founding Fathers, the M-shaped hand gesture is natural, and my hands automatically form it without trying. My middle and ring fingers are closer together than those two fingers are to the index finger or pinky. As a result, I can’t make any other hand gesture, and it’s the same gesture many people of Latin (Italian, French, Spanish, etc.) descent make without trying. Wolter, who is not Latin, claims that such a gesture can’t be done naturally. The show concludes with Wolter triumphantly revealing a sculpture from the 1500s that he claims represents a pregnant Mary Magdalene. Everyone then pretends to forget that it was also a dramatic revelation halfway through “Tracking the Templars” back in season one and then promptly forgotten. As we end the first half of the season finale, Wolter promises to pick up next week with more “proof” that a statue made in the 1500s tells the real story of a pregnancy from around 30 CE.
202 Comments
Jerry
1/24/2015 02:23:09 pm
After each episode, the first thing I do is check out your blog post. I really enjoy reading your site. I hope the wrist heals quickly.
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McSion Descendant
1/24/2015 09:37:37 pm
The story of the Templar fleet of 18 ships at La Rochelle originates from the testimony of Jean de Chalon during the Templars trial. Not from historical record. A difference.
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McSion Descendant
1/24/2015 10:58:04 pm
Quoting Scott Wolter: "The existence of a bloodline would undermine the very existence of the church"
chucky7
9/18/2015 04:50:47 pm
The Templars did have a fleet as they transported their members to and from the Holy Land on crusades, engaged in seafaring trade, and had other seafaring enterprises. They may have even supplied the ships Columbus used- his diary speaks of his consulting "charts" on his voyage to the New World to guide him there. Where did those charts come from? Regardless, the Templars could not have carried on the known world-wide trade they did, some "for hire", if they did not have a fleet. And it did disappear at the time of the Great Suppression.
McSion Descendant
1/25/2015 11:25:51 pm
To think whole communities have been established and exist that discuss the Jesus Bloodline in a scientific and technical way.
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Jason
1/26/2015 10:09:51 am
Jason,
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Americanegro
8/17/2015 06:39:45 am
Be careful out there, one never knows when there's a Templar lurking about.
Jackie
1/24/2015 02:29:14 pm
I really hope you get well soon, I'd love to check your comments for such bs this week.
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Rick
1/24/2015 02:32:10 pm
Other than the hoax and new symbol it seems like SW kinda mailed it in on this finale thus far. I suppose he is saving the better parts for next week.
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RLewis
1/24/2015 02:40:58 pm
Hurt by slipping on ice - OR, carving stones in rural Pennsylvania? !!!!
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TD Smith
1/28/2015 10:12:39 am
Haha! Great comment. Keep up the good work Jason.
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RLewis
1/24/2015 02:43:44 pm
Now the truth is finally out. Snoop Dog in a Templar Knight.
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Clint Knapp
1/24/2015 07:01:52 pm
That's Tupac, and there's a second Dogg. Otherwise, exactly that.
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Clint Knapp
1/24/2015 07:02:43 pm
That should read, "second g in Dogg".
EP
1/25/2015 03:49:15 am
Was going to post this, good job!
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Jay
1/24/2015 03:07:15 pm
The shows America Unearthed and Ancient Aliens sadly are a guilty pleasure because I like seeing how absurd some people can and be. When you remove all the alternative theories and pseudo-science it can be informative. Sadly the shows are like a veal I had when I ate at the Jewish ghetto in Rome, fat with trace amounts of meat. Your articles make me really understand what they are talking about in the episodes and adequately explain where they screwed up. A lot. With that said when Wolter noted hand positions I also realized that the hand positions can be interpreted to resemble "W's" but I doubt Wolter would make the claim that the art he referenced was referring to "west side" as opposed to Mary even though he might as well at this point since it would be equally absurd. As someone of a pure French Catholic background on my mother's side and German and Irish Catholic background on my father's side (with Luteranism and Anglican mixed in as well), I died inside when Wolter and his buddy were saying the figures of the Virgin Mary holding Jesus were actually of Mary of Magdelene (probably mispelt that) and her and Jesus's love child. That made me wanna hit my head against a wall. Luckily watching Museum Men and drinking a nice beer made up for that.
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Jay
1/24/2015 03:11:59 pm
I realized I mistyped in my first sentence. That was supposed to be "how absurd some people can be and how flawed in logic". As a clarification when I said "your articles" I was referring to Jason's articles on this site. Ah the perks of trying to type on my phone when it has very low battery.
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ScReW!!!
9/17/2015 08:49:00 pm
You ppl are so brainwashed and closed minded that you all are on heremaking fun of someone because they believe differently than you do. Open your minds ya religious freaks! I happen to believe what hes talking about about. Rock on Scott!
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Historian
9/17/2015 09:51:21 pm
Very well thought out argument. Much like those Wolter himself offers up. Impressive!
Bryan
1/24/2015 03:07:38 pm
It troubles me that there are people that take Scott Wolter and other shows like Ancient Aliens seriously.
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Jay
1/24/2015 03:19:44 pm
Sadly that is what happens when people assume others can't put incorrect information (to say it nicely) on TV or the Internet. Or that simply because people wrote books and papers they are experts. I've written a thesis paper on the Great Gatsby and compared it to the post-WWI to 1929 period in America. Doesn't make me an expert on that time in history or F. Scott Fitzgerald. Wolter talks about history and "history" on TV. Doesn't make him an expert similarly.
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StrongStyleFiction
1/24/2015 03:10:21 pm
“You know what, guys? Dan Brown’s book, The Da Vinci Code, may be more fact than fiction,” Wolter says.
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MartyR
1/25/2015 04:15:31 am
A while back, as a beat writer for a Triple-A baseball team, I sat next to a gentleman who swore Da Vinci Code was real. This guy seemed like a normal type, until you got him talking about these types of conspiracies. Then again, we were in Salt Lake City and he was very resentful of the dominating religion. He used to look at the beautiful Wasatch Mountains and call them prison walls. I asked him why he lived here, and he answered that he "almost made it out once." At the time, he was holding Brown's book. I just shook my head. I'm also sure he is a devoted SW fan.
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Clint Knapp
1/25/2015 04:33:37 am
"Like watching TV, but reading," sounds about right. There are about two pages worth of material between each commercial (chapter) break.
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EP
1/25/2015 05:14:19 am
Did he actually say that more than once during the episode?
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Only Me
1/25/2015 10:26:00 am
He made the assertion twice, IIRC.
CHV
1/24/2015 03:18:03 pm
As the ham-fisted purpose of tonight's opening scene was to create an image of Scott Wolter's objectivity on alleged Templar carvings in pre-Columbian America, I switched the episode off soon after as it was obvious what was coming next (e.g. Wolter & Pals going on and on about Templars in America, holy bloodlines, etc.)
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V
1/24/2015 03:19:55 pm
Other massive mistakes Wolter made: 1. Loki was neither the "13th uninvited guest" at the feast of Baldur--there were FAR more participants than 13, and Loki WAS invited--nor the person who killed Baldur, as that was Hodr, albeit with some connivance by Loki. But the stories are all VERY clear that it was HODR who killed Baldur, and some early versions don't even have Loki in them at all, but instead have Hodr doing it all himself, out of jealousy. On top of that, Baldur was the god of Light and Truth, not of Joy.
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StrongStyleFiction
1/24/2015 03:24:43 pm
"(Seriously. Where was he, if that's Mary Magdalene? Taking a leak or something? Guy helped set up the Last Supper, it's not like he was visiting LA or something.)"
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M W
1/25/2015 05:58:39 am
Hey, somebody had to be taking the picture! Must have been John. I doubt they had timers on their cameras back in those days..........
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Americanegro
8/17/2015 06:44:38 am
Because Jesus and his apostles were Freemasons, someone had to be the Tyler and watch the door. That was John, hence he's not in the picture.
Juan Ruiz
1/25/2015 10:46:49 am
Was pretty surprised that the John the Baptist comment made it through the editing process, given he was executed by Herod the Great who died in 4 BCE.
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RLewis
1/26/2015 06:50:09 am
I think it is also important to note that The Last Support was not painted on canvas but on dry plaster. This has led to much deterioration (and multiple restorations) such that very little of the original "painting" remains today. What Leonardo originally created may be quite different from what we see today.
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Only Me
1/24/2015 03:21:57 pm
I've always wondered what a parody of The Da Vinci Code would be like and America Unearthed delivered!
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Juan Ruiz
1/25/2015 09:00:35 am
"I've always wondered what a parody of The Da Vinci Code would be like ..."
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Shane Sullivan
1/25/2015 11:04:06 am
"We are all part of a secret society, Stan. A very ancient, very important society of men who follow the way of the rabbit, and protect the secret of the Easter Bunny. We are called...the Hare Club for Men."
Crash55
1/24/2015 03:23:33 pm
The whole Templar conspiracy thing is getting rather old and tired. Do guys like SW ever look at the actual history? Most of the Templars were folded into the Hospitaliers. The Chinon documents shows that the Pope cleared them of wrong doing. Their fall was really a political play by Phillip, the Templars were too powerful and he wanted them gone.
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TemplarCowboy
1/25/2015 03:05:06 pm
Brother, as a poor fellow soldier from the temple of Jerusalem, you are correct and I am amused by SW's weekly rants into fantasy . Makes for a fun watch and lightens my mind from the trials of the day.
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chucky7
9/18/2015 05:03:39 pm
The Templars did use code- they were international bankers of a sort after all. Templars today know it and it doesn't involve funny X shapes. But runes??? They started as Frenchmen- not Scandanavians. I watch these shows to see how someone can have the obvious right under their nose and miss it. The "M" sign is made with 3 fingers, not 4. And in holding tablets, etc. where would one put the fourth finger if not wrapped around the held object? Natural hand positions- not codes. John the Apostle would have had to be young considering when his Gospel is dated to have been written. But a girl? Nope. SW, while entertaining, should stop making leaps of logic and getting spooked about Free Masons in Washington and investigate the real conspiracies happening today there.
tm
1/24/2015 04:33:41 pm
Funny that they had the disclaimer in the same episode that showed Scott Wolter crawling out from under a rock.
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Dan Blundon
1/25/2015 06:37:10 am
Snort! Dang , I hate coffee up my nose....but love the comment!
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Zach
1/24/2015 04:54:51 pm
I find it interesting that after all the episodes on this subject that it's the season finale that finally has a disclaimer. I just hope that's a sign of the show's end. Granted it would be nice for another season just so Scott to further embarrass himself. Regardless, I can't wait to hear his idiotic thoughts on it.
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Clete
1/24/2015 05:11:33 pm
When I was going to school about a hundred years ago, one of the classes I took was Medievel history. When the professor talked about Phillip the Fair and his attack on the Templars, he pointed out several interesting facts about the motives. First of all, Phillip owed vast sums to the Templars, which he was not going to be able to repay. He had control over the papacy due to the fact that the Pope was exiled from Rome and living in France at the time. By his suppression of the Templars he was able to wipe out his debt. He then pressured the Pope to declare them Heretics and turn them over to the inquisition. They could then be tortured into confession abd burned at the stake. Phillip could also grab all of the Templar estates, which he did.
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Shane Sullivan
1/24/2015 05:51:33 pm
"The Templars are not known to have written in runes. The connection to the Templars comes entirely from Wolter’s claim that the “Hooked X®” is a symbol of Jesus impregnating Mary Magdalene."
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EP
1/25/2015 04:03:36 am
I wonder if he learned this through his Nazi connections...
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Shane Sullivan
1/25/2015 06:32:24 am
Or perhaps his favorite author, Jacque de Mahieu.
Shane Sullivan
1/24/2015 05:52:32 pm
Oh, and I hope your wrist feels better soon.
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.
1/24/2015 06:48:03 pm
me too
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Mike Morgan
1/24/2015 07:38:15 pm
"Wolter asserts that the number 13 is the symbol of the “goddess.” He says that Mary Magdalene is the goddess because her name starts with the thirteenth letter of the alphabet, a neat trick considering that the “J” (letter 10) was only added to the alphabet in the Middle Ages (as a variant of “I”), and only distinguished as its own letter in 1524."
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Titus pullo
1/25/2015 12:57:44 am
What does this episode have to do with undiscoved American history? Investigating the copper culture of upper Michigan, newport tower, theories of who the first paleo indians were, ancient walks the Bay Area at least is about american history. Scot wolters left the subject matter.
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Clint Knapp
1/25/2015 02:25:11 am
That's the nice thing about being a fringe pseudoscientist; it's a job that does not require one to actually live in reality.
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1/25/2015 03:49:51 am
First: I hope your wrist feels better and heals soon.
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Ruth Griffin
1/25/2015 06:18:56 am
Those same thoughts were the ones that drove to look up information on the show. That's when I discovered Jason's website. Now I use the time I used to waste watching this show on reading these posts. Much more informative and no potentially mind-dumbing side-effects.
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KF LV
1/25/2015 11:31:27 am
I hope you are reading carefully. There is so much to learn by discourse. BB LV KF
EP
1/25/2015 03:53:10 am
"a thorough stroking of Wolter’s ego"
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Digger
1/25/2015 04:46:53 am
Every time these Templars-in-America fringers talk about 18 ships sneaking off to North America, I want to ask them how such a feat could be done without anyone knowing.
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McSion Descendant
1/25/2015 05:07:29 am
The Templars-in-America theory is only a recent myth.
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McSion Descendant
1/25/2015 05:20:26 am
Free PDF download
Digger
1/25/2015 05:26:50 am
Well Scotland is not Minnesota.
McSion Descendant
1/25/2015 05:32:02 am
Forgot to add, Historical Notice of The Order page viii
Slavemason
1/25/2015 10:48:15 am
The Templars were merged into the Order of Malta in 1312. To suggest that they magically appeared in in Scotland in 1843 is just retarded.
DANIELLE
1/31/2015 04:11:01 pm
Why is it so hard to believe that the Templars came to the U.S.? I'm open to any idea. The fact that people find SW as stupid just seem scared to face the fact that there "could" be missing pieces to the history we learned. We can't possibly know everything that happened in this region all those years ago. Doesn't mean relics couldn't be left behind. For those who arrogantly think they know it all
jonn brown
12/13/2015 09:13:11 pm
I tend to agree with Danielle. It does not matter how anybody interprets Wolter's personality flaws - or his mistakes. What matters is that the owner of this site is doing nothing but mocking and providing the atmosphere for others to do so. There exists an esoteric history of the Magdalene and Jesus that was not some recent fabrication. This cannot be conveyed publicly and is for the family only. And what Wolter does is bring some of these subjects to the public, just to open the can of worms, not to necessarily be the definitive Historical work on them. People generally are not "intellectual." They need to start with the suggestion that perhaps there is another side to history than their school textbooks stated. If Wolter really is a "Charlatan," that will be his undoing - not mockery of his personality and stated, or ulterior, purpose. This is the "shoot the messenger" approach, which is the game of shills, or people that are too smart for their own good.
M W
1/25/2015 06:24:11 am
So now we are to believe that the Templars were reduced to flashing gang signs in religious works of art? Depending on which direction the hands are pointing could be very well be M or W, E or even the more likely Ʃ for the Latin Esh or Greek Sigma. Maybe all those artists were just a bunch of frat boys having a little fun .......
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McSion Descendant
1/25/2015 07:22:59 am
Frat boys aren't very good at being celibate
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V
1/25/2015 09:50:40 am
"Frat boys aren't very good at being celibate"
McSion Descendant
1/25/2015 10:09:53 am
Somebody should tell Scott Wolter, Steve St Clair et al that the Templars were warrior monks that swore vows of celibacy. I don't think they know that.
Not Scott
1/25/2015 07:20:10 am
Is the reason this is the Deadliest Secret that it's killing the chance of the show being renewed?
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1/25/2015 09:00:21 am
I refer to his mention of The Da Vinci Code, as to the possibility that much of it may be true and "is" based on documented research. The first time I saw the movie I kept thinking "I Knew that" having studied comparative religions since my introduction to Joseph Campbell as a child on PBS. As to previous shows references to Masonic veneration of Isis, this is also true. I am close with several Masons, those whose lodges have not been co-opted by Patriarchal Hierarchy influence. They follow The Olde Ways with Female members as well. To me and the Wiccan community the fact that many new shows on Discovery Network and the Smithsonian Channel are bringing the Moon Goddess out of the shadows to stand beside The Sun God is heartening. Perhaps LGBT, Wicca, Masonic and people like Wolper (whether his interpretation is right or wrong) can help to at least open the discussion of years of carnage in the name of GOD any God. If women around the world Bare their heads voluntarily and demand equality maybe the killing will stop. Remember this. Girls are not allowed to read for if they did they would learn the truth. Mohamed's wife was an educated women who ran a business, supported and protected him as he wrote his life's work. He wrote Mary Magdeline was not a prostitute but a priestess. teacher and prophetess. Whether she had Jesus' child we may never know, but had she been allowed to continue his teachings as he wished, this would be a different World. Find the Goddess within yourself and you will glimpse the future. Humanity will never rise to it's highest level until The Sacred Male and Sacred Female are united, with men and women standing side by side, not one behind or only under the other. Blessed Be LV KF
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McSion Descendant
1/25/2015 10:04:00 am
Dan Brown is a useless writer. He's rubbished American Freemasonry and also rubbished Dante. Goodness knows what he's going to rubbish next. Brown's knowledge of the Priory of Sion was non-existent because the PoS had nothing to do with Christian origins but a Pierre Plantard hoax.
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Kaye Flagg
1/25/2015 10:15:26 am
As I said we may never know if the lineage story is true. It does not matter for the discussion provoked by all of this is the key to looking back to a time before all Patriarchal Hierarchy Religions took away Women's right to think for themselves. Obviously you did not read my entire comment.
McSion Descendant
1/25/2015 10:21:19 am
The lineage story is a theory developed out of ignorance of Christianity and Gnosticism by three authors none of whom were trained historians.
V
1/25/2015 10:04:35 am
The best way to tell a lie is to mix in just enough truth to make the lie plausible. This is highly applicable to fiction, where you need to mix in enough of reality to make your fiction believable. The DaVinci code actually has places in it that are very POORLY researched, and almost all of his art "research" is taken from a purely modern look and completely ignores context and sometimes even the physical reality of the artwork. A good example would be the so-called "disembodied hand." It's not disembodied, and it's not even bad anatomy. It's just that Dan Brown has never seen anyone with the kind of voluminous sleeves painted in the work--sleeves that were VERY common in the time period the work was painted. And he didn't bother to look, either, because there are TONS of reenactors and costumers out there who LOVE to make stuff like that.
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McSion Descendant
1/25/2015 10:12:45 am
If you go to Dan Brown's website you will see that The Da Vinci Code is a novel based on fact. It's not just a novel.
Kaye Flagg
1/25/2015 10:30:11 am
So much has been destroyed and hidden by Patriarchal Hierarchies ( a term I have been using for years long before Wolper used it last nite) that all we can hope for is that in the end we all reach the same place. As we are now, hopefully having an intelligent and open minded discourse. All Gods are the same God. All Goddesses are the same Goddess We are all male and female within ourselves. We each have a name we call that which gives us comfort and sustenance. No one has the right to disparage an other persons beliefs or kill them because their God is not the right one. If you read my entire comment before you went off on it, is the entire point. maybe you should read it again.
InquisitorX
1/25/2015 10:52:40 am
You managed to use every stupid fringe cliche in one post. You're either a shill or mad.
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InquisitorX
1/25/2015 10:55:02 am
My post above is for her royal wiccaness who posted the rubbish about goddesses etc.
McSion Descendant
1/25/2015 11:04:00 am
Alas, the Holy Blood, Holy Grail genie has been let out of the bottle, and its elements will be absorbed within many fringe New Age syncretistic religions.
Kaye Flagg LV
1/25/2015 11:19:13 am
An you are a Patriarchal Hierarch. Nuff Said
McSion Descendant
1/25/2015 11:32:04 am
The ceremonial ritual to the Goddess within paganism/wicca would absorb something like the bloodline theory found in Holy Blood, Holy Grail very well. Although this did not happen overnight. And it is not accepted by all pagans and wiccans.
KF LV
1/25/2015 11:56:09 am
I at least have the courage of my own convictions. I do not hide behind a Cliche name InquisitorX which sums up your mind set perfectly. KF LV will be recognized as my True names posted on previous comments. I am not spreading narrow minded hatred. As I said further down you are the purest representation of a Patriarchal Hierarch. The kind of being who professes Faith and in the next breath spews bigotry. Mc Scion Descendant I commend you on your comment about Dan Brown's web page. You at least seem to see that there is more to this discussion than whether Mary and Jesus had a Daughter " of all things" BB LV
EP
1/25/2015 11:44:06 am
Wiccans LOL
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Kf LV
1/25/2015 12:49:35 pm
What mean Sire you ? Lots of Luck. Lots of Laffs or Lots of Love?
EP
1/25/2015 04:39:35 pm
I mean that you're an idiot, who is almost certainly a troll, and quite possibly a man irl.
InquisitorX
1/26/2015 10:41:33 am
"Wiccans LOL"
Lurker
1/25/2015 01:15:33 pm
Blessed Be to you Lady Vivienne! I agree these shows and the discussions they open up are a good thing. Namaste.
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KV LV
1/25/2015 01:46:22 pm
With such a sincere comment I had to answer JUST ONE MORE. I wish you could find a cheerier Pseudonym than Lurker. It makes me feel you and IX might have something to talk about. Ha Ha Blessed Be
Lurker real name Tracy
1/25/2015 02:23:52 pm
I would be ripped to shreds on this message board/blog, but I thoroughly enjoy reading every word. I applaud your courage.
Scott Wolter, as a card-carrying Freemason is carrying out their eternal agenda of the destruction of Catholicism. Just like the Freemasons did in France when they spread propaganda against the Crown and the Catholic Church and eventually led to the French Revolution, Scott Wolter’s assertions nowadays that Catholicism and the Bible are not legitimate or factual are attempts to persecute and destroy Catholicism today. His bigoted disdain for Catholicism was evident in his remarks on the Templar episode, part 1.
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McSion Descendant
1/25/2015 10:29:13 am
The Knights Templar exist as the Portuguese Order of Christ.
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InquisitorX
1/25/2015 10:58:14 am
A bit simplistic, McSion. Some former Templars were absorbed by the Order of Christ, which existed contemporaneously. Not all Templars joined that specific order however. Some did go to the Knights of Malta.
Tim
1/25/2015 11:01:27 am
Only in Portugal did the Templars rename themselves as the Order of Christ, which was also dissolved in 1792, everywhere else they became Knights of Malta.
McSion Descendant
1/25/2015 11:12:55 am
Yes, legends of Templar transmission are fake, as well as Masonic Degrees.
Truth
1/25/2015 11:15:54 am
As someone that knows high ranking Freemasons I can confidently state that these rednecks are NOT the Knights Templar!!!
KF LV
1/25/2015 11:22:48 am
InquisitorX. You are the living representation of the idea of the perfect Patriarchal Hierarch. Hence your choice of name.
Motherless Son
1/29/2015 05:08:03 am
The Templars were never Catholic, they were actually Freemason operatives pretending to be Catholic monks to spy on the Catholic Church. We despise Catholicism and will bring it down and create a new kingdom of the east in America and Europe. Praise Baphomet!
Kaye Flagg LV
1/25/2015 11:12:14 am
If Mr. Wolper is indeed a mason then he falls into the category of Modern/Ancient Mason that have stripped aside the Male dominated dogma that restricts most modern religions. I mean Post The Council of Nicea. ( I'm sure I spelled that wrong) As for Catholicism it has to it's credit that it is the only "Christian" religion that still uses the four elements in it's rituals. The candles and cross (sword) are Fire. The Font and Wine are Water. The Censor is Air and the Communion cakes are Earth. However, they only support Candle Magic if you support them and pay for the candle. The Madonna is the Goddess as long as she stays barefoot and pregnant. I was 4 when I started watching Joseph Campbell on PBS. I went to grade school with Catholic girls and could not understand why my Protestant parents couldn't or wouldn't tell me WHY I wasn't allowed to have a Mary Necklace. I was not able to relate to that poor dead being on the cross, but I could speak openly to his mother. In Junior High I was given "The Greek and Roman Gods and Goddesses" and my path was set. In 1972 I became a HPS of a Wiccan Coven. Personally I have my own reservations about using post Patriarchal Hierarchy labels as Witch and such for they are to often misconstrued as Satanism. which is also a Hierarchal invention. Any Cabalistic Rabbi will tell you. Sataan is not an outside influence that takes your soul and leads you into sin, but an internal desire of your own making which we have the free will to choose to ignore. Our Teachings have one basic rule mirrored in many ancient cultures some still surviving today. "Three Times Good An Three Times Ill. An Harm Ye None Do What Ye Will." BB LV KF
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Clint Knapp
1/25/2015 04:24:41 pm
I'm sure you mean "An it harm none, do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law." Words deriving not in the least from "ancient cultures", but a "book" written by Aleister Crowley, claiming to have received it from an angel standing behind him.
tm
1/25/2015 05:32:53 pm
You watched Joseph Campbell on PBS at age four. Are you talking about The Power of Myth?
William Kimbrel
9/18/2015 04:46:21 am
"Do what thou wilt" is actually a phrase taken from Rabelais' Gargantua and Pantagruel... As is the Abbey of Thelema; he invented the names as satire in a piece depicting shiftless clerics.
Titus pullo
1/25/2015 10:50:51 am
And what does all this have to do with american history? Does an extinct order gave claim to nyc? How about investigate how Clovis cultures seems to be earliest on the east coast and not in alaska? That would start some serious debates on the first americans and at least be topical. Just gave you a subject scott...
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KF LV
1/25/2015 11:28:20 am
What it has to do with American History is that whether you like it or not. In Movies, on Media and TV in this country "The Goddess Speaks". Blessed Be LV KF
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Only Me
1/25/2015 11:58:38 am
Titus, Scott is trying to establish that America is the "Promised Land" the Templars were seeking. He asserts the Freemasons, through fictitious ties to the Templars, made it so. He further tries to support the hypothesis by stating various rune stones found here, e.g., the KRS, are land claims left behind by the Templars.
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M W
1/25/2015 01:20:26 pm
If the Knights Templar, through their modern incarnation the Masons, claim the north American continent as their own can we expect them dressed in chain mail to come pretend trotting up Pennsylvania Avenue to the accompaniment of clip-clopping coconut shells? Run away, run away!!!!!
Only Me
1/25/2015 03:04:38 pm
Perhaps we could distract them by having them cut down the mightiest tree in the forest with...a herring!
truth
1/25/2015 11:24:11 am
I heard the guys from the show Deadliest Catch caught a snow crab that they claimed was the last Templar.
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KF LV
1/25/2015 12:26:18 pm
Don't any of you get it? The point of all these shows is not to denigrate any ones beliefs. Something Wolper never does. You are all nit picking over what is truth and what is fiction. The only Truth is that it is being discussed openly for the world to see. Catholics have their indoctrination. Jews still carry Olde Wisdom though is still anti woman in some sectors. The extreme perversion of Mohammed's teachings is the newest atrocity. All in all every Culture from time immemorial has a Garden of Eden and Flood story. We all began with a Hunting Culture hence "The Horned God" and "Diana Goddess of the hunt" Then some one noticed seeds sprouting in Deer Spoor giving rise to raising crops and domesticating animals, with their own Deities. The fact that humans have a long history of being unkind to one another is not lost on me. There was a significant point in time when powerful Men decided that Women were unworthy of an opinion as to the disposition of their own lives. Enter The Patriar....... Hier........ So here we are today in the 21st century. Time for change I would say. I am off to check out DB'S site, but I leave you with humour of my own authorship. " What's the only difference between a Straight Male Chauvinist P.. and a Gay Male Chauvinist P..? A straight one thinks a woman is only good for one thing. A Gay one thinks she's not even good enough for that."
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Only Me
1/25/2015 12:36:22 pm
Speaking of *not* getting it...
Clint Knapp
1/25/2015 05:25:12 pm
You realize of course that the "goddess" Wolter (yeah, his name is Scott Wolter, not Wolper) refers to only becomes divine by the insertion of Jesus's penis, right? She is literally nothing more in his view than an empty hole to be filled by Jesus babies and venerated for her ability to create Jesus-spawn.
EP
1/25/2015 05:34:41 pm
Is it bad of me to find amusing the possibility that y'all are being trolled hard? ;)
Clint Knapp
1/25/2015 05:57:49 pm
Nah, EP, it's all terribly amusing. However, when did a little thing like the potentiality of a trolling stop us from having a little fun with the troll? It's also possible Scott Wolter is trolling the fringe community, the Aweses are trolling the History/H2 channels, and the History Channel itself is just trolling the entire television viewing audience; but still we discuss them and provide counterpoints to their arguments. ;)
titus pullo
1/26/2015 01:25:35 am
I honestly have no idea what you are talking about. is this some sort of women studies theory...the earth goddess thing? We all need to return to the pre agricultural age when we have women dominated societies?
InquisitorX
1/26/2015 10:50:34 am
His name is "Wolter", not "Wolper".
EP
1/25/2015 11:46:41 am
Kaye Flagg, you're not Janet Wolter, are you? :)
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Kf LV
1/25/2015 12:43:19 pm
EP. No My names are my own unlike some others herein. Dear "Only Me". It becomes funny by the misuse of said gender. Goddess this is addicting. BB LV
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Only Me
1/25/2015 01:06:36 pm
Actually, KF LV, the only thing I find "funny" about all your comments thus far, is how you've adopted some of the tactics "patriarchal hierarchies" are guilty of using against women...such as labeling and sexist jokes.
KF LV
1/25/2015 01:03:38 pm
One more thing. EP. I wouldn't mind a long conversation with her.
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Kaye Flagg LV
1/25/2015 12:32:33 pm
I just couldn't resist just one more. Shane this is for you. The Secret is there are no secrets. Illustrated by Discovery Network and The Smithsonian Channel's series' on Olde Religions and Cultures.
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Shane Sullivan
1/25/2015 01:16:36 pm
Erm...alright, thanks, I appreciate that.
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KF LV
1/25/2015 01:17:17 pm
Mc Scion Descendant: 01/25/15 post. I am initiated Welsh, Gardnerian, and Alexandrian. At this point I see myself as a Sister and Daughter of the Moon. I did not pursue the last 2 very far ( it was Decades ago) because I love the Poetry and Symbolism of Welsh. I don't care if that lineage or my own can be substantiated. Though I do still have my Papers. At this point I only Wish the Voice of the Goddess to reach any one who needs her strength and guidance. This time I mean it I'm done for now.
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William Kimbrel
9/18/2015 04:51:05 am
"The problem with chicks is that they can't hold their smoke... That's what it is."
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KF LV
1/25/2015 01:35:04 pm
Only Me: Obviously you did not read or perhaps comprehend anything else I said except that and my rebukes to Mr. InquisitorX. I hate no one. I hold no malice to intelligent discourse. Tomorrow nite I am attending an LGBT Ritual and then going to a Gay Bar.
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M W
1/25/2015 01:41:34 pm
Some of my best friends are....................
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KF LV
1/25/2015 02:48:11 pm
Mine too.
Only Me
1/25/2015 02:00:40 pm
I read and understood all you wrote. I don't particularly find the following to be "intelligent discourse":
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EP
1/25/2015 02:10:10 pm
""The extreme perversion of Mohammed's teachings is the newest atrocity." Way to paint another belief system in such a negative broad brushstroke. Did it ever enter your mind you may have just offended someone?"
Only Me
1/25/2015 02:15:34 pm
Sure, I'm interested. You've never failed to give reasonable explanations.
EP
1/25/2015 02:26:32 pm
Short version: Think of all the illiberal and inhumane practices we associate with traditional Islam and/or contemporary Islamic radicalism (and the two are far from the same thing, btw). The Qur'an does not explicitly command any of them. Indeed, a plain reading of it implies that it is opposed to most of them.
Only Me
1/25/2015 02:43:27 pm
Thanks, EP.
EP
1/25/2015 03:56:12 pm
Don't be so quick to apologize, Only Me. I'm sure KF LV simply meant some dumb caricature of feminist interpretations, not anything sensible.
InquisitorX
1/26/2015 10:58:12 am
Troll.
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EP
1/25/2015 02:05:21 pm
If KF LV admitted to being a troll, I'd actually give her (him?) mad props. "Tomorrow nite I am attending an LGBT Ritual and then going to a Gay Bar" does sound like a troll tipping her (his?) hand.
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Kaye Flagg Lady Vivienne
1/25/2015 03:08:25 pm
It seems to me I was defending his teachings as he wrote them while his educated wife supported and defended him. I agree all religions pleas for peace and love have at one time or another fallen by the wayside and been replaced by many horrors. I.E. Malefas Malefecoram. Spelled that wrong. As for Jesus I respect him greatly as a teacher and prophet. As did Mohammed. He also spoke highly of Mary Magdeline as a teacher and leader. Yes the fight for women's rights went well. I can read and write.More than I can say for many girls around the world. Yes I am on old woman now. I will gladly take on the personae of Crone. 37 years ago when I entered the Craft I was a Maiden. (that and virgin actually mean "Never having had a child not untouched) In between I was "Mother" to many. I have lived the 3 aspects of the Moon and now believe it is time to share the love I have been given by Men and Women, both Gay and Straight. I have colleges in all religions and we share our thoughts and opinions freely. now I am totally done. signing off Blessed Be KF LV
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EP
1/25/2015 03:53:34 pm
So... Are you planning to pollute this blog with your presence on a regular basis, or is this a one-time occurrence?
Wicca Wisdom
1/26/2015 06:02:22 am
Kaye Flagg, there was no uniformity of belief within Medieval Witchcraft, which, varied from region to region.
"I’m not quite sure (a) why the Eastern Church didn’t seem to care for the three centuries it controlled Jerusalem before the Islamic conquest of 637 and (b) why the Islamic rulers of Jerusalem didn’t publicize this information to help prove that the Qur’an’s version of Jesus (human, survived crucifixion, etc.) was in fact the correct one. "
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"even if Leonardo’s paintings had crypto-women in them, it does not follow that such women were goddesses or symbols of Holy Bloodlines."
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McSion Descendant
1/25/2015 11:00:07 pm
There are no allusions to a Jesus Bloodline in any of Leonardo Da Vinci's paintings, only people who want to believe that. The Jesus Bloodline is not based on historical fact or on any passages in Gnostic or Christian texts.
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ajesquire
1/25/2015 02:46:50 pm
During Season One, didn't Wolter talk about the space between Jesus and John (or Mary Magdelene) as a V (which he says is a symbol of the feminine something or other)?
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EP
1/25/2015 05:42:01 pm
"Maury Povich, who helps us all find The True Father?"
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tm
1/25/2015 04:26:44 pm
After seeing the sculpture of "Mary Magdalene" in segment six, then looking at the photos on Wolter's most recent blog post, I think I know the secret he's going to reveal in the final episode. Alan Butler is pregnant!
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MartyR
1/29/2015 05:31:29 am
Will Wolter and Butler then use Joan Rivers' film Rabbit Test as proof of male conception?
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Joseph Craven
1/25/2015 05:57:57 pm
Wait, so Wolter says a few episodes back that he doesn't decide the topics (for example, bigfoot) now history channel is disavowing their role via disclaimers.
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Kal
1/25/2015 06:40:01 pm
Let us review.
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lil ole moi
1/25/2015 07:31:23 pm
Kal... are your last seven quotes
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McSion Descendant
1/26/2015 05:34:30 am
Yes, what are we doing pouring scorn on falsehoods and ridiculing those who believing them
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people...
1/27/2015 06:16:12 am
S.w has not been proven to be wrong, only "unpopular" here
Only Me
1/25/2015 08:29:03 pm
I hope Scott Wolter comes to understand that the greatest debunker of his Templar-Holy Bloodline narrative is himself.
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Only Me
1/26/2015 11:12:08 pm
To further illustrate my point, here's more of Scott's mindset:
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William Kimbrel
9/18/2015 04:56:21 am
Even Valla's exposure of the Donation of Constantine didn't undermine the Church. Ha!
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Carol Warner
1/26/2015 12:37:16 am
"In this segment, Wolter declares that he is interested in another letter of the alphabet, because this is some horrifying film noir version of Sesame Street." That-sums up the entire show!
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titus pullo
1/26/2015 01:29:09 am
I hate to say this but just because one has a hard science degree does not mean they apply logic to human interactions....I had a fellow physics major in college who visited card readers all the time and planned her life around readings...
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McSion Descendant
1/26/2015 03:15:50 am
Yes, the human personality is a mix
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B L
1/26/2015 03:43:23 am
Just watched this episode......
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McSion Descendant
1/26/2015 03:48:59 am
It was freshly carved, even to the untrained expert
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B L
1/26/2015 03:52:20 am
A recent Templar runestone forgery complete with a hooked X is found near where Steve St. Clair lives, and nobody has any clue as to who may have carved it? How genuine was that scene?
Joe Scales
1/26/2015 05:42:41 am
"It was freshly carved, even to the untrained expert"
RLewis
1/26/2015 06:29:14 am
Per SW blog:
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Steve St C
2/13/2016 10:56:08 pm
Colavito is right. You acolytes are actually stupid enough to take every word you see on TV as gospel. I live hundreds of miles from where that stone was found. You are truly stupid. But the good news is you have found a community who adores you. Enjoy the crumbs from Colavito's keyboard. You deserve them.
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Dan
1/26/2015 06:05:16 am
Steve St. Clair lives in New Jersey and the fake rune stone was in Western PA, so our favorite fake genealogist is off the hook (so to speak).
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RLewis
1/26/2015 06:27:47 am
Jason, there was another SW comment (in the last segment) that I was curious about. He noted that the portrait of Jesus was "under the rose" and therefore meant "hiding a secret". Is there any (non-fringe) precedence for this interpretation?
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Juan Ruiz
1/26/2015 07:11:33 am
The term "sub rosa" is derived from the custom of putting a rose over a door to indicate that is where a secret meeting was to occur.
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RLewis
1/26/2015 08:00:58 am
I always thought it meant something like "lets keep this between us" or, "what we say here is to be kept confident" or "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas". Not "this picture holds a secret". 1/26/2015 10:20:52 am
The use of a rose to connote secrecy arises from a Greco-Roman practice that persisted into the Middle Ages, but in Christian art, the rose sometimes symbolizes the Virgin birth and sometimes the five-petal rose symbolizes the five wounds of Christ, which is why it appears above Christ in such statues as the one seen on the show. To complicate things a bit, Catholic confessionals of the era often had roses carved on them as symbols of the secrecy of the confessional, so it became easy enough to conflate the two different uses of the rose.
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Denise
1/26/2015 11:21:56 am
thanks Jason for the rose explanation. Regarding the Wicca discussions (?) Like the Freemasons, the modern Wiccan religion has borrowed from selective older traditions, but do not represent a truely ancient divine feminine tradition.
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Clint Knapp
1/26/2015 07:45:56 pm
In Wolter's theology, AVM is the esoteric AUM used by the Masons as an alternative name for God by way of Theosophy (see the Secret Doctrine) by way of the Vedic Om for which it is a westernized transliteration.
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Shane Sullivan
1/27/2015 05:24:35 am
I thought the "V" stood for the shape of the mons pubis, not for the initial letter.
Dave Lewis
1/26/2015 04:46:57 pm
I think Kaye Flagg is really Steve St Clair in drag.
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JaRuseSawHim
1/27/2015 04:39:18 am
The real mystery is not if the Templars came back to life as Freemasons 400-years after being abolished, The real mystery is, did Scott expect us to believe that was him racing the four-wheeler to the fake runestone while wearing a full face helmet?
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Joe Scales
1/27/2015 06:34:33 am
Like Batman, he has a full array of vehicles at his disposal. Also, he possesses sophisticated tools of the trade within his utility pack. In this case, a bottle of Evian and a toothbrush...
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McSion Descendant
1/29/2015 01:21:04 am
Freemasonry is based upon the myth of Hiram Abiff and his construction of the Temple of Jerusalem - an adaptation of material found in the book of Kings. That's what's found in the earliest Freemasonic documents,.
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Truth
1/29/2015 05:16:16 am
Everyone please go to the America Unearthed page on Wikipedia and give examples of the controversial and bigoted opinions of Scott Wolter and America Unearthed:
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Typhonis
1/29/2015 11:13:21 am
I always thought the Templars ran off to Switzerland and became the ancestors of the bankers there. Shoot reverse the colors of the Swiss flag and you get a Templar cross, or a Red Cross.
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Truth
1/29/2015 02:23:41 pm
The knights of Malta have a white cross on a red background, just like the Swiss flag. No Templar connection.
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McSion Descendant
1/30/2015 05:05:59 am
The Knights Templar did not integrate into the Knights Hospitaller.
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Historian
1/31/2015 01:47:01 pm
There are few better ways to provide a means to keep pure BS flowing endlessly then to concoct a theory that can neither be proven nor disproven. Such is the theory that there existed/exists a secret biological bloodline of Christ. When this is pointed out, Wolter responds that the so-called Jesus ossuary contains DNA, and thus we will be able to decipher the DNA of Christ soon enough. Nothing will deter this man. A megalomaniac and a charlatan. A pompous buffoon.
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Long Duk Dong
1/31/2015 04:01:27 pm
Scott Wolter is a loon.
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Kevin
1/31/2015 07:52:25 pm
When i first started watching au i liked it.. and still kinda do i watch every chance i get. But as i continued to watch i noticed how scott never gives native americans credit for anything . Not even the simpliest of things, in his or howevers running this shows mind he wants to make people believe only someone from a distant land could produce these artifacts. its just impossible to believe that 20 people from europe and not the millions of natives could have done this or that.
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Historian
2/1/2015 12:11:31 am
This is what Wolter does:
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Historian
2/1/2015 12:17:34 am
Sorry, a sentence above should read "...the unmistakable garbage that any thinking person can quite easily recognize for what it is, will certainly be recognized as garbage, recognized as exactly what it is."
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Matt Mc
2/3/2015 01:52:54 am
I would add by claiming conspiracy and cover up he protects his claims. If they gain no ground its because of the conspiracy, if they are questioned or proved wrong, its because of the conspiracy.
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Historian
2/1/2015 12:29:48 am
In a nutshell, Wolter's "genius", and that of the History 2 network, is to simply recognize the tremendous distrust of authority that characterizes the American popular imagination at this moment in history. And it plays naturally into American's traditional distrust of "intellectual elites" already present in our national character. "Smarty pants professors think they're better then us!!" So his books and his a TV show resonates within the context of distrust of all authority. All he's really doing is applying that distrust to our study of American history. And by using a theory that can never be proved or disproved, he can just carry on spewing his BS unimpeded.
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Historian
2/1/2015 01:07:30 am
So, I think to understand the popularity of Wolter's America Unearthed, one cannot leave out the very real distrust Americans feel toward authority of all sorts. We know distrust applies in the political realm. Less well known, perhaps, is just how much, in a general way, Americans distrust their "intellectual elites". Be it in science, in history, in many realms of knowledge. I am sure Wolter knows this, or perhaps more likely is an unconscious proponent of this anti-intellectualism himself. At this moment in American history, with the rampant distrust of authority present today, something that calls our historical authorities and paradigms into severe question will find a very fertile environment in which to flourish among the uneducated people infused with this anti-authority mind set. One could have easily predicted the popularity of Wolter's rantings. And we should never expect our rational arguments and observations to sway folks like Wolter's followers. Anti-intellectualism, anti-authority regardless of how silly the theory, all this is quite unmoved by rational arguments. I can only shake my head in dismay, and take solace in knowing truth will win out in the long run as this unmitigated nonsense cannot stand unsupported forever.
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McSion Descendant
2/1/2015 10:42:56 am
I seriously doubt that Scott Wolter and America Unearthed is as "live" as you suggest. The Da Vinci Code is now history, a good indication being its availability in second hand bookshops and charity shops.
Historian
2/2/2015 05:09:04 am
McSion Descendent, I prefer America Unearthed not exist at all. But, I believe it is still a going concern, and therefore in a position to convince some Americans that it's BS claims/scripted tales are somehow trumping generations of real historical scholarship. Otherwise, I'm not sure what your point is with that book being in second hand, etc. you must be missing my point. I'm pretty sure I'm missing your own, unfortunately.
Historian
2/2/2015 05:15:54 am
McSion Descendent, when I said. "Utilize the popularity of the Da Vinci Code", I am referring to utilizing the successful formula of a secret history involving the foundation of Christianity. As well as incorporating the unprovable belief that there was/is a secret biological bloodline of Christ. I am not saying anything about which printing, second hand, etc. Does not matter if the book is no longer a best seller; that was certainly not the point. In that comment I am pointing out the influences Wolter reflects in what he's doing. IMHO, of course.
Historian
2/2/2015 04:35:15 am
There is now a conspiracy theory being promoted that suggests the owners/management of the Seahawks wanted Russell Wilson to win MVP of Super Bowl, and not Marshon Lynch. Hence the decision to throw. If you're not into football and that's Greek to you, I just mention it as further "evidence" that Americans are living in an Age of Conspiracy Theories. And will latch onto the most irrational belief rather then accept what seems impossible, in this case that the coach made the dumbest decision in Super Bowl history.
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McSion Descendant
2/2/2015 06:32:31 pm
Scott Wolter is really only propped-up by America Unearthed. When that documentary series folds, so will Scott Wolter.
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Historian
2/3/2015 12:00:09 am
Graham Hancock is far from being "history". In addition, I would not throw out the baby with the bath water where exploring the deep past is concerned. Gobekli Tepi demonstrates the existence of large scale organized activity near the very end of the Pleistocene. That is amazing and something unknown until very recently. So, anyone who thinks we will not, in the long run, require a revisioning of our present histories is kidding themselves. And will be proven mistaken.
Historian
2/3/2015 12:12:27 am
McSion Descendant, I'm just pointing out the cultural influences that feed into Wolter's particular spiel. If you can dispute them, please do so. What does the fact that America Unearthed won't last forever have to do with a "culture of conspiracy"? This culture does not depend solely on Scott Wolter to exist and prosper. It's part of the Ametican psyche at this point in time. And any books/TV shows/movies that feed into that will do well at this point in time. I'm just trying to provide a broader context for understanding people like Wolter and why his TV show is/was popular among Americans at this time. Do you have a problem with a credentialed historian attempting to add some context for the fluorescence of alternative histories these days? I don't think so, and anybody who thinks Wolter's gotta go is OK by me, but don't misunderstand what I'm doing. Just providing cultural/historical context. I understand some of the factors that allow Wolter to fool people. That's all....
Historian
2/3/2015 12:27:36 am
Again, I'm just providing a broader context to Wolter's popularity. I am not saying he will win the day in the long run. Not saying canceling his show would not really help. Cultural/historical context is a good thing to have. I am helping here, not hurting here, by providing that context. And it has absolutely nothing to do with when and where America Unearthed and Scott Wolter disappear from the airwaves. That had nothing to do with the context I was trying to provide here. I hope you're right, but Wolter's fading away won't be soon enough to prevent installation of a display in my home state that will include a description of his asinine Holy Grail theory! Not soon enough to prevent that absolute travesty!!
EP
2/3/2015 02:11:16 am
"Clovis First dictatorship"
McSion Descendant
2/3/2015 12:42:43 pm
Conspiracy theories and theorists come and go. Their claims get discussed but that does not automatically mean they always sell their books. Sure, history can be re-written with new archaeological discoveries, but usually with the right evidence and by the right people, never by conspiracy theorists and fringe historians.
Keith
5/5/2015 10:05:28 am
I tuned into this show, randomly, thinking that maybe, finally we have a show that is led by an actual scientist and so might help to curb the mindless conspiracies polluting every crevice of our world. I was wrong. I like watching some of these shows like Ancient Aliens because as moronic as they are, I get a good laugh out of it and it does bring up some interesting idea's that are fun to play around with. AU on the other hand is mindless beyond comprehension. I've studied the Templars, Hospitallers, etc. for decades because they are truely facsinating. But you don't need to be a student of this era to learn the actual truth. Even the most basic, kindergarten research will tell you that most of what this episode is trying to convince you into believeing is completely wrong. The show started out painting a picture of the papacy in on a monumental plot with old Phil to get rid of the Templars. Curiously, they never mention the Chinon Parchment. I can only think of 2 reasons that would happen. Either they didn't know about it, which shows research incompetance on a level that is staggering for a "historical documentary" or it was just too inconvenient for the story they were trying to sell. Either way, that set the tone for the entire show and I now understand why History installed an iron clad disclaimer and Wolters has been sadly trying to validate his show ever since. The only real puzzler to me how show made it to it's 3rd season. That might be a great dissertation project for someone.
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susan
8/30/2015 05:55:08 am
You need to find a new hobby instead of obsessing over Wolter. H2 is still showing his shows from 2013 so i think there my be some truth to what he says. Maybe not everything but ur dedicating ur life to obsession over this man. Its brutal reading ur blog. I guess this wont be posted because it doesn't agree with you.
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Historian
8/30/2015 07:58:51 am
Still showing shows from 2013 may have a lot more to do with advertising $$ then any truths revealed by the show. Your argument seeming to be that if it is on TV for awhile, then it must contain truth? You're joking I hope. The program contributes to the dumbing down of America, and it can't be exposed for what it is, and for what it is doing, often enough. It promotes sloppy and gullible thinking. And it distorts history for it's own snake oil purposes. If it were presented as 100% fictionalized history, if it simply admitted it was following the public allure of The Da Vinci Code for financial gain, and not intended to be taken one bit seriously, it could almost be forgiven.
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Bob
9/7/2015 03:58:00 am
Some questions really need to be answered.
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Juan
9/7/2015 10:40:15 am
Who knows what Christianity was intended to be? By the second generation it had become a whole host of different theologies. And essentially continues that way to today.
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Juan
9/7/2015 10:11:07 am
Now that AE has established that the Templar treasure is not on Oak Island, anyone know if the two brothers and Co. are back there this year still looking?
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Steve Mihok
2/25/2016 01:51:29 am
I can't believe any of you . Scott is the only one that makes any sense. I don't know, I read all of your opinions and watched all episodes. You all are not getting it.
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Bill C.
4/30/2018 06:45:04 pm
The people on the show are Bill Carney and Butch Laney, not Bill Laney. I am he, Bill Carney. Everyone that has seen the inscription in person thinks it's authentic, and that includes about 20 people plus the new landowner a doctor from The state of Inidiana.
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