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Review of America Unearthed S04E10 "Exodus of the Templars"

7/25/2019

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This episode airs July 30.
​Here we are at the end of the first Travel Channel season of America Unearthed. It feels like only yesterday that the season started! This season has been a terrible disappointment. Only a handful of times during the show’s 10-episode run did it attempt the mix of crazy speculation and bonkers pseudo-history that defined its first three seasons. Instead, the current season has been a mix of standard-issue cable filler only occasionally enlivened by a wild claim (ancient astronauts are real!) or unsupportable speculation (the Drake plaque is real!). It was painfully obvious that the Travel Channel was looking for a more palatable version of America Unearthed for a mainstream audience, and audiences responded by … staying away in droves. The show attracted between 1 and 1.5 million viewers in its first three seasons, but this year it struggled to break 0.5 million. This Tuesday’s episode reached 478,000 people in the live plus same day ratings. It lost almost 120,000 viewers from the Expedition Unknown rerun serving as its lead-in. Boring shows lose viewers.
​Finally, in the season finale, the network and the producers release Wolter from the constraints of respectability and allow him free reign to return to his old ways and speculate wildly about all our old friends—the Templars, Henry Sinclair, Jesus and Mary Magdalene, and the Holy Grail. It’s what we’ve been waiting for all season, and really the only thing that separates America Unearthed from its competitors. But this time, even the free-range speculation doesn’t quite rise to the looney levels of the past, mostly because we’ve seen it all before. Rather than offer anything new, this episode plays as a retrospective of Wolter’s previous Templar episodes, failing to go beyond what we’ve heard before and not quite managing to support—even with Wolter’s upside-down bizarre logic—the assertions he makes. America Unearthed in its last minutes went the Ancient Aliens route and has become an ouroboros eating its own tail.
 
Please note that since this episode is made up of old claims, this review contains some text originally written for my pre-air preview of this episode from February and my discussion of Ashlie Cowie’s Templar work in 2016.
 
Segment 1
We open with Wolter narrating the “legends” that that the Knights Templar fled to the New World—a legend that didn’t exist before Eugène Beauvois invented it in the early 20th century. Wolter promises that a “new clue” will finally vindicate his two decades of Templar speculation, and we cut to the opening credits for the final time.
 
At Placentia Bay in Newfoundland, Wolter travels out to an uninhabited island where an inscription is visible for one hour per day at low tide. Three days earlier, for no good reason, Wolter speaks by phone with Allen Dawe, an engineer who asked Wolter about the inscription via email. We cut back to the “present” as Wolter blathers on about the Templars having the Ark of the Covenant, the Holy Grail, and written proof of Jesus’ child by Mary Magdalene—the standard Da Vinci Code stuff. Wolter falsely claims that the Templars were “seen fleeing in ships” from La Rochelle, but that is a falsehood born from an uncritical reading of Templar testimony given under torture following the suppression of the order, combined with fringe history speculation that originally had no factual basis before justification was found later. Wolter also states that Henry I Sinclair, Earl of Orkney “took” the Templars to the New World, though he neglects to note that Sinclair lived 80 years after the suppression of the Templars. The on-screen map follows a speculative reading of the hoax Zeno Map and Narrative, a Renaissance fiction. Wolter finishes by saying that the Templars possessed the actual Holy Grail.
 
Viewing the “carving” reveals a graffito on Haystack Rock on Long Island in Placentia Bay in Newfoundland. Among other unusual symbols on the rock is a line cut by three horizontal bars. The heavily stylized letters likely are nineteenth century initials, which experts like archaeologist Douglas Speirs believe read “E. L. Mst,” for “E. L., Master (of the ship),” but fringe history believers have used it to speculated about transoceanic contact between Templar groups, evidenced only by this badly carved graffiti, since all secret organizations ambiguously mark their imagined territory with confusing scribbles so that no one will understand the claim. Wolter says that the inscription is actually the “pontifical cross” and represents Templar infiltration of Canada.
 
To support his reading, Wolter enters into evidence the Navigatio, telling the story of St. Brendan the Navigator, whose trip to a fruitful island across the Atlantic is sometimes fantasized to be America.
 
Wolter, however, initially believed that the inscription seemed too recent to be Templar, but he changes his mind after looking more closely and claiming that the erosion is consistent with 600 years because the rock is very hard, though others who examined it believed that the carvings are too sharp to be that old, especially since it is underwater for 23 hours a day. Perhaps most ridiculously, the carving is only a couple of inches tall, making it a rather pointless marker of Templar visitation. You’d think they’d have written something larger and less ambiguous to mark their passage.
 
Segment 2
After the break, Wolter travels to Scotland to visit a cave in East Wemyss in Fife. The caves contain ancient carvings of Pictish origin dating back as far back as the Bronze Age. Wolter wants to see a location known for its extensive nineteenth century graffiti. Well Cave, which was thought to contains no Pictish carvings, had previously been featured in a 2004 episode of Time Team. He is there with Tony McMahon, described as a Templar historian (though his Templar work is actually a novel), and Wolter relates “legends”—of modern provenance—that the Templars hid in the caves for decades (!) after the suppression of the order, even though Scotland took a very light hand in punishing former Templars.
 
Among the hundreds of nineteenth century carvings in the cave, Wolter is particularly interested in a carving he told locals that he will link to the Knights Templar. The carving, showing a straight line crossed by three perpendicular lines beside a curved line all enclosed in a circle, cannot be absolutely dated. Local heritage experts who examined the carving in 2012 suggested it could be medieval in origin, perhaps from the twelfth century. Based on reports that Knights Templar had been in the area in the Middle Ages, one suggestion is that the carving was intended as Cross of Lorraine. However, there is no proof that the symbol was carved by the Templars.
 
Wolter examines the graffito and declares it to be Templar, but a competing, and better supported, hypothesis is that the carving is, like every other known piece of graffiti in the cave, an eighteenth or nineteenth century creation. Archaeologist Douglas Speirs had this to say about the carving in 2014:
So I would read the Wemyss Caves carving as someone’s monogrammed initials, specifically, a capital letter “T” and a smaller letter “C” all contained within a circular incised cartouche. However, what has confused things is the carver’s excessive use of artistic flourishes, specifically, the decorative use of serifs and the addition of a decorative, serifed cross bar on the “T”. This makes the letter difficult to read and gives it the appearance of a letter “E” or even of a Christian heraldic cross device, similar in form to a Cross Lorraine or a Greek cross crosslet. […] I am quite sure that this is just a mid-19th century monogrammed initial left by a visitor to the Caves. I do not think it has any deeper significance or meaning although I would note that the carving does look cross-like and is similar to crosses known from Templar sites.
 
As for the date, I would say it is mid-19th century as it is very similar in size, form and style to the scores of other monogrammed initials that appear throughout the caves, many of which include dates. Another dating clue comes from the soot covering on the cave walls. The walls of Well Cave have been blackened by soot from historic fires. However, the incision of this carving has cut through the soot-blackened surface layer to reveal the clean red sandstone beneath. This indicates that it was carved after the burning event. All of the 18th/19th century carvings cut through the historic cave wall soot layer to reveal clean sandstone cuts, hence this carving is unlikely to be of any great antiquity.
​Wolter disagrees and claims that the soot does not match Speirs’s analysis. I am not able to say since I am not there to look, but it doesn’t matter either way. The Templars operated in Scotland and their presence would not be anomalous in any way. Indeed, standard histories of Fife quite clearly discuss local Templars and the survival of some Templars in the area after the suppression of the order.
 
Segment 3
Wolter claims that the triple bar (pontifical) cross connects the two inscriptions, though they do not look much alike. The symbol is also a rather common shape. Wolter notes that the Wemyss family was connected to the Sinclair family by marriage—though, really, who wasn’t back then?—so he travels to Rosslyn Chapel to look at the lozenges that Ashlie Cowie—yes, him again—claimed represented latitudes of Templar voyages from Jerusalem to the Faroe Islands.
 
The carving itself isn’t much to look at. A roughly triangular grid, it was hidden behind a coating of lime for 500 years until the lime coating flaked off in the 1940s. Historians believe that the carving was a stonemason’s plans for the chapel’s turrets, drawn when the crypt served as a workshop during construction of the chapel. For the most part, this interpretation is so uncontroversial that even the late Philip Coppens dismissed the drawings as mere “mason’s marks” in his 2004 book on The Stone Puzzle of Rosslyn Chapel, and Templar-Sinclair conspiracy theorist Andrew Sinclair agreed they were “architectural designs to aid the masons” who built the chapel in his 2012 book The Secret Scroll.
 
In his book, Cowie dismisses this because the three-dimensional turrets do not share precisely the same angles as the two-dimensional chart, though they share the same shape and decorative cap. Instead, he claims that the chart represents a 15° longitudinal slice of a world map in the projection laid out by Claudius Ptolemy in the second century. The horizontal parallel lines, he said, must be the lines of latitude recognized “used” by the Vikings: every 15 degrees of latitude from the equator up to 75°. Further, he concludes that the central line represents a previously unknown “Viking prime meridian” that, not coincidentally for a Scottish author like the proud Scot Cowie, would center the Viking “power base” on Scotland rather than, say, Norway.
 
I’m sure many of you are already skeptical, and I’m sure it won’t help matters to learn that the chart does not depict any landforms or coastlines and includes no writing to identify it. Beyond that, the latitude lines are not equally spaced despite allegedly representing 15° segments. The grid could, in theory, sit atop any 15-degree slice of the world if it were indeed a world map, but Cowie says that he’s convinced it belongs to North America because Rosslyn Chapel was built by Sinclairs, who descend from the Viking Rollo and therefore were privy to the secrets of Vinland. The chapel, he said, was built on the Viking Meridian and is, for his imaginary Viking-Scottish heroes, the Center of the World.
 
Wolter listens politely to a chapel historian tell him that the marks were mason’s working drawings, and he announces that “I’m not buying it.” He claims that a star seen on the wall is actually a map of the apparent path of Venus, which in Wolter’s bizarre cosmology means that it is a “tell-tale mark of the Templars,” though stars are among the most common shapes used in design. Wolter says that the presence of stars at Templar churches in Europe and on the American flag prove that the Templars traveled from Europe to America by following Venus—the “blazing star of the West.” This is another modern Templar hoax invented by Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas in The Hiram Key in 1997. As I discovered when I examined the question back in 2013, Knight and Lomas appear to have made up the story out of whole cloth and then attributed it to ancient scrolls that they refused to identify or reveal.
 
Nevertheless, Wolter accepts the claim at face value and declares that this can all be proved by fanciful Venus alignments at the Old Stone Mill in Newport, Rhode Island, a colonial-era windmill known as the Newport Tower and imagined to be the work of Vikings or other Europeans since an 1839 craze for all things Viking swept America. (Wolter explicitly “disagrees” with the windmill claim and cites octagonal stone churches in Europe as proof, though there is also an octagonal stone windmill in Britain that served as the real model for the Newport construction.) We’ve already had an episode about this, but after the break we do it all again—this time in search of what Wolter explicitly identifies as the Holy Grail and claims to be the object of his lifelong quest.
 
Segment 4
After the break, Wolter returns to Newport chasing what he claims is the Rosslyn “treasure map,” following Cowie’s unsupported claims. Wolter partners with former MLB player turned archaeologist Brad Lidge (who specializes in Roman archaeology) and gives Lidge a rundown of his fantasies about the Newport Tower. He claims, falsely, that it is “exactly” the same as medieval Templar architecture, though even a superficial comparison will note that no Templar building in Europe is so crudely piled. He claims that the cockeyed keystone is off center to align with the winter solstice at the completely not significant time of 9 AM EST on the winter solstice, an hour not known from literature to have any occult value. “What is it going to take for archaeologists to take this structure seriously?” Wolter asks Lidge, who appears to agree with Wolter, though his statements seem to be edited to make him seem more in agreement. Lidge suggests that an excavation is necessary to find the truth—though every excavation until now has turned up nothing pre-colonial—and everybody gives up because there is no way to get permission to excavate on this show’s narrow timeline.
 
Instead, Lidge and Wolter go to visit the “In Hoc Signe Vinces” stone along the coast. It’s a Victorian fraud inscribed with the words Constantine allegedly saw in the sky during his vision of the Cross, but Wolter declares it a “Templar motto” (apparently because it is used by the Knights Templar group within Freemasonry as such) and says that the stone is the landing site where the first Templars landed in America. The men start to dig it out the beach, and we cut to commercial.
 
Segment 5
Wolter and Lidge uncover the stone, whose inscription is not in medieval style—it’s carved in an elongated newspaper-style sans serif first used in the nineteenth century for one thing—and Wolter explains that he believes the phrase to be the motto of both Freemasonry’s Templars and the originals. However, the Templars used as their motto the first two lines from Psalm 115, “Not to us, Lord, not to us / but to your name be the glory.” Don’t take my word for it. Here is how the Freemasonic Knights Templar themselves described their motto in the 1880s: “The Templar Banner of the United States is a modern design, without any warrant for its adoption. It is a great mistake to suppose that the motto ‘In Hoc Signo Vinces’ was ever that of the Ancient Templar Order…”. Wolter announces for the first time in this segment that as a Freemason he has joined the Masonic Knights Templar, and it is therefore no surprise that he simply imagines that the modern knights are identical to the ones they cosplay.
 
Lidge tells Wolter that he is impressed by Wolter’s phantasmagoria of half-baked ideas. “The anecdotal evidence is starting to add up,” he said, and my respect for his mid-life career shift bottomed out.
 
The men and imaging expert Jerry Lutgen use Reflectance Transformation Imaging to study the inscription, and we cut to commercial before learning the results of the analysis but not before Wolter speculates that Henry I Sinclair, Earl of Orkney carved the stone, some 90 years after the end of the Knights Templar.
 
Segment 6
In the final segment, Lutgen and Wolter analyze the data and descend into numerology. Wolter claims that the “sacred” Masonic ration of 2:1 can be found in the inscription, whose first line is twice as long as the second. This, he says, is “a huge clue to the Templar treasure.” Providing no proof that the inscription predates the nineteenth century other than a feeling and a comparison to other hoax inscriptions like the Narragansett Rune Stone and the Kensington Rune Stone, Wolter simply declares that the inscription “could be” six hundred years old and runs off to tell Dawe everything that we just saw for the last hour. But nothing Wolter presented was “proof” in the conventional sense, merely a bunch of assertions based on earlier assertions based on fantasy. Wolter discovered no Templar treasure but tells Dawe that finding the “treasure” will be Wolter’s goal for next season.
 
Wolter states that “despite what the skeptics and deniers might claim, I’m going to get to the truth.” Hey, I guess that’s me!
 
Yes, we end on the same damn cliffhanger as we have for the past three seasons. Wolter promises a treasure he never finds and insists that proof positive is just around the corner, if only his overlords in cable TV would grant him just one more season.
 
Frankly, if he knew where the treasure was, he should have just gone and gotten it already. That would be the fastest way of shutting up the “skeptics.” Without it, all we have are misrepresentations, lies, and fantasies masquerading as argument and evidence.
 
In short, it’s the same old thing. Somehow, the “truth” is always just over the horizon, at the end of the next season, always coming but never arriving, like the Second Coming, a consummation devoutly to be wished but one beloved more for the promise than the fulfillment. 
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Kwnt
7/24/2019 05:51:47 pm

“The anecdotal evidence is starting to add up” says it all.

Funny that the Templars would use a "pontifical cross" since it was the Pope who gave the official okey-dokey to wiping them out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_of_Salem

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Jim
7/24/2019 07:50:38 pm

Wolter claims the Templars were Goddess worshipers that only pretended to be Catholic to fake out the Vatican.
Does not explain why they would still use Christian crosses and symbols after they were dissolved by the church now does it.

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Jim
7/24/2019 06:35:42 pm

Same old, same old,,, nonsense from start to finish.

Wolter claims the stone near the Newport Tower is where the first Templars landed in America just a few short minutes after claiming they landed at the other rock in Newfoundland first. lol

This review by Jonathan Frakes rebuts, point by point, every thing Wolter says in this episode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM-e46xdcUo&fbclid=IwAR3_oboZ0URcjbLyxr2GBK6T2SHq0cd_nsa8a7t-Jx4WUuL6uPNCVKYU_fA

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Dick dingleberry
7/25/2019 09:27:55 pm

Is that the same Jonathan Frakes who offered his putrid narration to the “Alien Autopsy” farce?

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Kent
7/26/2019 03:07:24 am

Am I the only one to notice the suspicious resemblance between Frakes and Will Wheaton?

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Joe Scales
7/24/2019 07:33:35 pm

"Boring shows lose viewers."

Agreed. Though I looked forward to the resurrection for the inevitable unintentional humor, the first two episodes put me to sleep before the halfway mark. Perhaps I'll give what could be the series finale a look. For old times sake

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Kent
7/24/2019 07:59:27 pm

"an uninhabited island where an inscription is visible for one hour per day at low tide"

A place with only one low tide a day? The only possible explanation is Templars.

https://www.tideking.com/Canada/Newfoundland-and-Labrador/Placentia-Bay/

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Jason Colavito link
7/24/2019 08:29:34 pm

Presumably when they filmed the other time it was above water was during the night, when it would be too dark to see it.

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Jim
7/24/2019 08:48:20 pm

Are you referring to the time traveling Templars from the future that Scott's buddy Alan Butler claims built the moon ?
Maybe Templars can control the tides from the moon ?

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TONY S.
7/24/2019 08:58:20 pm

Only Templars associated with the Holy Bloodline, of course.

Kent
7/24/2019 09:34:18 pm

Of course it bears mentioning that there are many places with only one low tide a day. I remember when the Polk High School quarterback used his Letterman's jacket to control the tides and repel the bears from our state and because of that was invited to a college party.

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TONY S.
7/24/2019 08:56:59 pm

Has the Travel Channel announced whether or not there will be another season?

I wonder if they'll mercy kill the show now,or allow it to keep dying a malingering death by bringing it back yet again.

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Henry the Sinclair
7/25/2019 09:57:26 am

Scott the Wolter, please if you know where I buried my treasure, could you dig it up for me. I have gone senile and forgot where I buried it. Sometimes I kind of half remember that I might have left it in a cave in Scotland marked with a hooked x or spent it on Whores and Wine somewhere, as we were, you know, a celibate order of pious land grabbers.

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Paul
7/25/2019 11:21:29 am

There are so many problems with Wolter. Little wonder that science doesn't pay any attention. Scientists are too busy, well, doing science. Historians are too busy doing actual History. According to Wolter and his ilk, folks have been back and forth across the oceans countless times over the centuries. So where is the record? Some idiotic carvings that Wolter dates with a magnifier? Where is the genetic trail? After all, men of any race have a problem with keeping the old pecker in the pants or breeches, whatever. The first wave of European contact left the Natives decimated, why did that not happen before? Where is the garbage? Where is the documented record? Not even a lost pocket knife, per se. I hope Wolter rots in pseudo hell.

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Whiskey Dick
7/25/2019 11:31:18 am

If yins examine closely it is clearer than a mountain stream that Mr. Wolter got all his goddess worshiping Templar ideas from thet thar Cremona document. I sumtimes wonder why thet is named after a non-dairy creamer. Anyhew I digress. Now that the Cremona Document is found to of uncertain or unclear origins he is still talkin' about how them Templar worshiped Mary Magdalene. He has gone to the well of other recent popular writers once too often in this old cow pokes opinion. I'm off to the south forty to polish my Cross of Lorraine and have some Oreo's. Hasta. Nanasty.

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Doc Rock
7/25/2019 09:26:35 pm

The ex-jock looks to have a legit MA in archaeology. Would like to think that it was just a matter if them cutting and pasting him into agreement with Sir Wolter, Scott. Or maybe he is angling toward a Josh Gates style semi-woo gig and needs the exposure.

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Dick dingleberry
7/25/2019 09:37:48 pm

Lidge has lots of experience with botching and bungling things. You can watch him here when he gave up a mammoth home run to Albert Pujols to blow a lead in the 2005 playoffs:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lsEuTYbDRwE

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Patrick
7/30/2019 07:01:41 pm

"The schematic is a sea chart"
Why ? How…? What…."sea" chart?
Because…?
You have no way of knowing, this is completely made up.
[Refer to Ashley Cowie’s 2016 published book.]

This only works if you use the angle of the sun at solar noon on the solstice.
[That’s the point, chap. Lozenge constructs are based on angles formed by the rising and setting points of the Sun on the solstices, where were the “turning points” of the year. It is a straightforward deduction to consider the five-pointed star as being related to either the summer or winter solstice. It is also straightforward to consider only the northern hemisphere as the latitudes represented by the lozenge constructs were all north of the Equator. Given the bracketing of the star between the 55.8° and 39.5° lozenges, we then look for a corresponding for the Sun that matched 72 degrees. The Sun’s Solar Noon elevation on the Winter Solstice between 55.8° and 39.5° latitude doesn’t attain 72 degrees. It does on the Summer Solstice. The 72 degree intersect with the Solar Noon Sun elevation was well understood by Ptolemy (ca. 150 CE) and had been mathematized – meaning they could calculate the elevation, given the value of the Earth’s axial tilt, for Solar Noon for any latitude.]

Why the summer solstice ? How…?
Because…?
You have no way of knowing, this is completely made up.
[Discussed previously.]

You must cross reference from the angle of the sun to actual latitude.
[You mean…like astronomers had been doing for several thousand years prior to the 1300s, or 1100 construct date for the Vault beneath Rosslyn Chapel?]

Why ? How do you know ? Can you show me any examples of this used in the entire span of humanity ?
Because you say so ?
You have no way of knowing, this is completely made up.
[The Solar Noon Sun elevation, on the Summer Solstice, the same day used by Ptolemy…and Hipparchus, et al prior to him, and by the Ancient Egyptians using their obelisks to determine the gnomon to shadow ratios on the longest day of the year…which since these societies were all in the Northern Hemisphere, it means the Summer Solstice. So much for your “made up” rational.

There actually is another historical example. In the John Dee accounting of King Arthur, Dee ascribes the mountains ringing the North Pole to the 78th latitude parallel. This is a corruption of the 78 value, which actually was the Solar Noon Sun elevation misinterpreted as the absolute latitude. This notion was seized by Mercator who then placed Grocland at the 76th latitude parallel on his map. Take a look at the 1367 Pizziganno portolan chart, in the upper northwest corner. The legend of Grocland (Great Land) is written in text at the 67-68th parallel of latitude. Still too far north. The value had already corrupted by that point in time. The effect can be seen in Ruysch’s 1507 world map. Run the Solar Noon Sun elevation in Year 530 CE, Grocland is in the region of the 45-46th latitude parallel.]

Jim
7/30/2019 08:29:14 pm

My question:

"The schematic is a sea chart"

Why ? How do you know ? What makes it exclusively a "sea" chart ?
Because you say so ?
You have no way of knowing, this is completely made up.

Patrick's answer [Refer to Ashley Cowie’s 2016 published book.] does not even try to answer the question !

Me:This only works if you use the angle of the sun at solar noon on the solstice.
Why the summer solstice ? How do you know ?
Because you say so ?
You have no way of knowing, this is completely made up.

P: ." Lozenge constructs are based on angles formed by the rising and setting points of the Sun on the solstices, where were the “turning points” of the year."

J: Sez who ? Cite me a source or you are making this crap up !

P: " It is a straightforward deduction to consider the five-pointed star as being related to either the summer or winter solstice."

No it's not, sez who ? It's only straightforward because you want it to be.

P: "It is also straightforward to consider only the northern hemisphere as the latitudes represented by the lozenge constructs were all north of the Equator."

J: Why, who is to say it wasn't South America ? It doesn't really matter though because there are four rhombus's that by all appearances seem to be a part of architectural sketch.
There is zero reason to think otherwise.
This whole thing is completely made up out of nothing. You and your co-pseudos are just making crap up to fit your own agendas.

That's enough for me, you are piling your BS so high I am fearful of getting buried in it.

Bill
7/25/2019 09:53:21 pm

I laughed pretty hard during the part where Wolter somehow managed to "map" the randomly placed star to a very specific place in the US when there could not possibly have been any reference points. In his own words, "I just don't buy it".

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Patrick
7/26/2019 07:09:18 am

Bill, what location did he map the five-pointed star to?

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Jim
7/26/2019 09:59:16 am

He said, when discussing a rock at the Newport Tower that the the star at Rosslyn Chapel leads here.
You didn't bother watching ?

Patrick
7/26/2019 11:26:57 am

Jim, I don't.

Patrick
7/28/2019 09:05:39 am

A five-pointed star intersects a circle every 72° (360°/5 = 72°). The lozenges on the diagram represent the Sun’s rising and setting points on the Summer and Winter solstices for specific latitudes. The 72° represents the Sun’s elevation at Solar Noon on the Summer solstice. The Solar Noon elevation is the zenith elevation of the Sun every day of the year. In Year 1362, the 72° elevation on the Summer Solstice occurs at 41.53° latitude. The Newport Tower is located at 41.48° latitude. In Year 1362, the Earth’s axial tilt on the Summer solstice was 23.52°. By Year 2018, the axial tilt had decreased to 23.44°. This shift in axial tilt had the effect of the making the Solar Noon elevation at the Newport Tower 71.95°. One can extract these values from: https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/grad/solcalc/.

Ashley Cowie deconstructed the diagram correctly with respect to the lozenges and overall meaning of the placement of the five-pointed star off to the west. The star is positioned, schematically, between the 55.8° and 39.5° lozenges. The 41.48° latitude is bracketed by the bottom two lozenges.

Paul
7/28/2019 09:38:48 am

And the monkeys are typing furiously........

Jim
7/28/2019 02:54:31 pm

Patrick:

Speaking to these drawings, Ashley Cowie says:

'I challenge anybody to show me a Knight Templar symbol in there' he says - no doubt opening up a very big can of worms. 'Rosslyn has nothing to do with Freemasonry either', he claims - 'such concepts are illusions performed by modern authors and distract us from the real reasons such places were built'.

https://arts.caithness.org/article/208

Perhaps you should go argue your nonsense with him.

Jr. Time Lord
7/28/2019 03:57:53 pm

Cowie had a show on HC, where he claimed to find Excalibur, and the Holy Grail was stashed inside Lady Liberty's torch. Cowie hijacks the Latitude Lozenges, and map interpretation of wall etchings inside Rosslyn's Crypt from Knight and Lomas. Claims the five pointed star is, "La Merica" or "The Western Star". The inference being the United States of Venus. Although, he never says it himself.

Jim
7/28/2019 09:18:49 pm

Oh, I wasn't endorsing Cowie's nonsense any more than I would Patrick's, however Patrick has a habit of quoting or citing other peoples statements out of context and by cherry picking portions and/or omitting words and phrases he dishonestly distorts or completely changes the point they intended.

Kent
7/28/2019 11:35:49 pm

Isn't a lot of Rosslyn Chapel rendered questionable because of the 1862 restoration and the destructive 1950 "preservation" efforts?

This Mason compares Freemasonry to Dungeons and Dragons:
https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2019/07/what-its-like-join-freemasons/594844/

Patrick
7/29/2019 06:32:05 am

Nice inventions, Jim! I describe a five-pointed circle and then use NOAA's Solar Calculator to demonstrate that a 72 degree Sun elevation at Solar Noon, on the Summer Solstice, demarks the latitude corresponding to the Newport Tower.

You, nor anyone else can argue the simplicity and correctness of the point, so you introduce a) Templars. Your point of argument, not mine.

And not Ashley Cowie's. The gist of the lozenges, as laid out in his recent book, is that they represented sailing latitudes to transit WEST. Therefore, the star sitting out to the WEST demarks a location fixed to a latitude.

When you can factually refute the 72 degree/Solar Noon pinpointing the latitude of the Narragansett Bay region, centered on the Newport Tower, then type. Until then, quell the urge.

Joe Scales
7/29/2019 09:34:21 am

"I describe a five-pointed circle and then use NOAA's Solar Calculator to demonstrate that a 72 degree Sun elevation at Solar Noon, on the Summer Solstice, demarks the latitude corresponding to the Newport Tower."

Patrick, you imbecile, you are making only connections that you wish to be for some notion already cemented within that thick skull of yours. The above is proof positive that your thought process is lacking in this regard. Meaningless prattle. That is all you have; and you'll never see it. You imbecile.

Jr. Time Lord
7/29/2019 10:30:10 am

Patrick,

Cowie was pushing Templars before Wolter. In fact, Cowie claimed to have found proof of Knights Templar in Rosslyn Chapel.

Jim
7/29/2019 12:19:46 pm

Patrick:

"A five-pointed star intersects a circle every 72° (360°/5 = 72°)."

1 - There is no circle on the star in Rosslyn, making your whole nonsensical argument even more ridiculous.
2 - The points of the star are not of equal length, meaning that even if there were a circle around them there would not be any 72° angles.
3 - If the angles on the lozenges show accurate latitudes then any angles on the star must be assumed to be accurate and there are no 72° angles.

" The 41.48° latitude is bracketed by the bottom two lozenges."

It is not !!!, It is off to the side of the lozenges, do you know what the word bracketed means ?

"Nice inventions, Jim! I describe a five-pointed circle and then use NOAA's Solar Calculator to demonstrate that a 72 degree Sun elevation at Solar Noon, on the Summer Solstice, demarks the latitude corresponding to the Newport Tower. "

Speaking of nice inventions " I describe a five-pointed circle", there is no such thing as a five-pointed circle, and there is no circle in the etching, you are making this up.

"You, nor anyone else can argue the simplicity and correctness of the point"
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

"When you can factually refute the 72 degree/Solar Noon pinpointing the latitude of the Narragansett Bay region, centered on the Newport Tower, then type. Until then, quell the urge."

Do you even remember what a fact is ?
Hint - It's not some crap you made up.



Jim
7/29/2019 12:22:45 pm

P.S. here is what the etching looks like:

https://i1.wp.com/thesecretdossier.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/rosslyn-matrix.jpg?resize=299%2C500&ssl=1

Patrick
7/29/2019 12:35:37 pm

JTL, thanks for the background.

Jim
7/29/2019 04:37:38 pm

For more additional fun lets examine Patrick's claim of "PINPOINTING":

"When you can factually refute the 72 degree/Solar Noon pinpointing the latitude of the Narragansett Bay region, centered on the Newport Tower, then type."

Using the 42nd parallel as a basis, Patricks method of pinpointing the Narragansett Bay region simultaneously also pinpoints:

Spain, Mediterranean Sea, Island of Corsica, just north of Rome, Adriatic Sea, Montenegro, Albania, Serbia, North Macedonia, Bulgaria,Turkey, Black Sea, Georgia, Russia, Caspian Sea, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, People's Republic of China, Mongolia, North Korea, Sea of Japan, Japan ,Pacific Ocean, Oregon / California border, Oregon / Nevada border, Idaho / Nevada border, Idaho / Utah border, Wyoming, Nebraska, Iowa, Illinois, Michigan, Ontario Canada, Lake Erie, Pennsylvania (Erie County), New York / Pennsylvania border, New York, Connecticut, and finally Rhode Island.

I won't bother with all the locations in the southern hemisphere that could be included.
Way to pinpoint the location Patrick ! How a master mathematician like yourself is able to pinpoint a location to within a mere 4000 miles give or take is absolutely stunning, bravo !!!
Although you may consider that most use a set of 2 coordinates to mark a location, you know, latitude and longitude. (err,,,not the angle of sunshine on a certain day, which is pretty dumb, even for Latter Day Templars)
Anyhoo, I am recommending you for the Nobel Prize for your stupendous work in advancing the art of Pinpointing.

Kent
7/29/2019 06:11:13 pm

Patrick Simpleton wrote: "When you can factually refute the 72 degree/Solar Noon pinpointing the latitude of the Narragansett Bay region, centered on the Newport Tower, then type."

Patrick, sei un imbecile! It "pinpoints" a line going completely around the Earth, as Jim pointed out. Works just as well for Rome.

Patrick
7/29/2019 06:53:19 pm

Of course the 72 degree Sun elevation demarks a line of latitude which encompasses the entire Northern Hemisphere on the Summer Solstice. That a 72.0 degree elevation fixes a line of latitude at 41.53 degrees, 3.02 miles north of the NT, in the Year 1362, is a remarkable correspondence. What was the tolerance error for measuring latitude in the 14th century? No one can say with certainty, so we can only work with the hyper-accurate absolute values (to 0.01 degrees) that NOAA's Solar Calculator returns. There's no requirement for longitude, despite Jim's assertions. The schematic, as Cowie lays out, is a cartographical representation - a sea chart. The Sun's elevation in Year 0362 at the NT latitude is 72.17 degrees. In 1362 it is 72.04 degrees. In 2018 it decreases to 71.95 degrees. Jim relishes that there are numerous locations along the entirety of the 41.53 degree parallel of latitude. He mentions California, for example. The schematic is a sea chart, therefore, one needs to be able to transit to the respective point on the 41.53 degree parallel that is attainable by sea-travel.

Kent
7/29/2019 07:37:36 pm

Actually lines of latitude are valid 365 -366 days a year.

To stay on the line of latitude for the entire voyage would entail Templars (or whoever) leaving from France or Spain. And that's not how sea voyages by sail work, there are course corrections. So California is still in the running. As is Rome.

It appears that I've overlooked why you're using 1362. Is it because it is the putative date of the KRS? Still unproven in my book.

Also unproven is any date you make up for the construction of the Newport Tower. When you stack assumethatwhichistobeproven upon assumethatwhichistobeproven it makes for a rickety structure, but that's your lifechoice.

By the way, who do YOU think built the Newport Tower?

Anything "Ashlie Cowie lays out" I lay right back.

Jim
7/29/2019 10:49:55 pm

Patrick:

"The schematic is a sea chart"

Why ? How do you know ? What makes it exclusively a "sea" chart ?
Because you say so ?
You have no way of knowing, this is completely made up.

This only works if you use the angle of the sun at solar noon on the solstice.

Why the summer solstice ? How do you know ?
Because you say so ?
You have no way of knowing, this is completely made up.

You must cross reference from the angle of the sun to actual latitude.

Why ? How do you know ? Can you show me any examples of this used in the entire span of humanity ?
Because you say so ?
You have no way of knowing, this is completely made up.

Your whole argument consists of you claiming you know things you can't possibly know. It is all made up out of whole cloth as Jason would say. Not 1 iota of actual evidence to be seen.
Just the usual pseudo massaging of data trying to fit any one of a thousand different numerical formulas into nothing.
If it isn't using Royal Egyptian cubits it's using megalithic arc seconds or my fave, megalithic fathoms,,,lol.
The entirety of this is just made up, it has no basis in reality.
It was a sketch found in a workshop that workmen used when they constructed the towers of the church. It looks just like a sketch of the existing towers they built, so of course it is some sort of fantastical asinine chart showing directions to a tower thousands of miles away that was built hundreds of years in the future, on a virtually unknown continent.

Kent
7/30/2019 12:23:22 am

"If you see a man who can't find his ass with both hands, hand it to him."

Patrick
7/30/2019 05:43:07 pm

Actually lines of latitude are valid 365 -366 days a year.
[Lines of latitude are representative of divisions of the Earth’s surface. They are an artificial construct. They can be considered fixed, in comparison to the lines that represent the Arctic/Antarctic Circles and the Tropics, which “move” in consonance with the long-term change in the Earth’s axial tilt. The measurement value of latitude was in terms of the Length of Day, a component of the Nychthemeron, on the longest day of the year, which for the Northern Hemisphere was the Summer Solstice.]

To stay on the line of latitude for the entire voyage would entail Templars (or whoever) leaving from France or Spain. And that's not how sea voyages by sail work, there are course corrections [known as the route…whose end points are the point of origin and final destination; no disagreement] So California is still in the running. As is Rome.

It appears that I've overlooked why you're using 1362. Is it because it is the putative date of the KRS? [Correct] Still unproven in my book. [And in many others…]

Also unproven is any date you make up for the construction of the Newport Tower.

[Actually not. The NT’s design was lifted from the values contained in the early 1300s Icelandic manuscript, Gks 1812, 4to (which has been asserted by scholars to be reflective of work that the Paris-based astronomer, Sacrobosco, worked). This date frames the argument on dating to, at present, the late 1200s/early 1300s. The use of the Anglo-Saxon foot dimension in the 22 alna exterior circumference is another framing mechanism. The AS foot in the first decade of the 14th century was supplanted by the reversion to the present-day Imperial foot, a component of the English Statute system of measures. The five-pointed star of the Rosslyn chart, returning an absolute value of 72 degrees, occurred when the Earth’s axial tilt was 23.52 degrees. This axial tilt value persists for approximately 75 years. Using the hyper-accuracy of 23.52 is actually unreasonable as it is almost certain that this level of precision couldn’t be measured…so a rounding to 23.50 degrees would suffice. That value still pinpoints the 72 degrees at the NT location.]

When you stack assume that which is to be proven upon assume that which is to be proven it makes for a rickety structure, but that's your life choice.

[It is rickety to assume. We link every claim to a mathematical construct which can be reproduced and assessed by anyone.]

By the way, who do YOU think built the Newport Tower?
[To answer that in a non-speculative manner, one first needs to understand the function, hence design, of the structure itself. Who had the design knowledge and how did it get to them? The only surviving record which contained information on the design of the NT existed in Iceland. Whatever other potential records existed in this regard, which no other researchers have yet found, most likely would have existed in Paris, France and also in England. Paris because that is where Sacrobosco was located, and then England because it was used as the basis for converting the AS system to the Imperial system of measure in the early 1300s.

Who? Of course, this question drives an answer that is, at this point, absolute speculation. For example, are there any records of Benedict Arnold, or any other colonist, construction the NT? No. Arnold mentioned it in his will, which is an instrument to transfer one’s property, upon their death, to the legally assigned heirs. All the other written-of residents of Newport, the water-mill builder and the folks who lived, in England, twenty miles or so away from the Chesterton Mill, not a single one of them left any record of constructing the NT. Association by country/locale is not evidence of construction – despite the misplaced arguments to that effect.

Let’s be clear, had the NT been constructed in the early Colonial period, it would have been the most significant public works project then undertaken. Yet, not a single shred of documentary evidence exists that even suggests the NT was constructed by any colonists.

In fact, in 1674, John Josselyn wrote in his book that “Old Plymouth,” aka Newport, contained the remnants of the first aborted plantation in New England, the plantation of Bartholemew Gosnold. Gosnold’s exploration of New England took place in 1602.]

Anything "Ashlie Cowie lays out" I lay right back.

Kent
7/30/2019 06:27:42 pm

Oh Patrick.

"All the other written-of residents of Newport, the water-mill builder and the folks who lived, in England, twenty miles or so away from the Chesterton Mill, not a single one of them left any record of constructing the NT. Association by country/locale is not evidence of construction – despite the misplaced arguments to that effect."

Even stranger is the fact that there is no written record of there being a tower there when the colonists first arrived.

"Let’s be clear, had the NT been constructed in the early Colonial period, it would have been the most significant public works project then undertaken. Yet, not a single shred of documentary evidence exists that even suggests the NT was constructed by any colonists."

If I build a windmill on my land it's not a public works project.
The implication of your statement is that there are written records of the construction of every colonial era building or structure.
It seems unlikely that slaves or indentured servants would issue invoices for their work.

Oh Patrick.

Jim
7/30/2019 07:34:48 pm

And right on cue Patrick comes up with an obscure aged form of measurements, "the Anglo-Saxon foot dimension in the 22 alna exterior circumference". lol.

Pro-Tip,,,You can measure any building in the world using the Anglo-Saxon foot, this does not make them any older than they really are.

As for:
"The five-pointed star of the Rosslyn chart, returning an absolute value of 72 degrees,"

Sorry Patrick, I already told you about that. The five-pointed star has no measurements or angles that give you values of 72 degrees, adding a circle around it (there is no fricking circle in the drawing) does not give you any values of 72 degrees.
The only way you have gotten your 72 degrees is by erasing the star, drawing a circle instead and adding five lines meeting at the center of the circle, like a wagon wheel.
So apparently the only way the five-pointed star of the Rosslyn chart, returns an absolute value of 72 degrees is if you ignore the star completely and draw something entirely different.

Your logic is "like the jitter bug
It plum evaded me.",,,(Jimmy Buffet)

As for all the rest of your "findings", couldn't be bothered.

Jim
7/25/2019 11:34:51 pm

I just took a boo at Haystack rock. It's a tiny little islet (rock) in the ocean. I can think of no reason at all why any (non-existent) Templars would waste the time to even stop there.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Haystack,+NL/@47.6480545,-54.056869,1233m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x4b731a851f776c97:0xce8aa5581748b096!8m2!3d47.637434!4d-54.075336?hl=en

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Kent
7/26/2019 03:01:57 am

I believe the word you meant is "poo".

Anthony Warren gets his "everything is the stars and planets man" nonsense a well deserved slapdown in the latest episode of Woltan's blaugh, which is otherwise filled with nonsense.

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Joe Scales
7/26/2019 09:56:25 am

Yeah, I stopped by to take a look. Looks like a Sinclair scuffle has evolved from the steady stream of nonsense; but without the haphazard vulgarity one here might expect from our favorite clan member.

And yeah, it is complete nonsense. You can't even follow Wolter's current bloviations to any sort of conclusion; reasonable or otherwise. I mean... all this stupid stuff, symbols and such, that mean absolutely nothing. As if his imaginary band of Templars teleported around the globe to provide him with clues of some sort of intricate plot with no clear purpose whatsoever.

Hate to say it, but Wolter just may have reached the depth of ultimate stupidity. A meaningless folly forever swallowing its own tail.

Jim
7/26/2019 10:27:50 am

I love how whenever Wolter sees a symbol of Christianity (or anything for that matter) carved in a rock it somehow becomes a symbol of Goddess worshipping Templars.
If written in Latin,,,Templars
If written in Norse Runes,,,,Templars
Peoples Initials (Graffiti),,,,,,Templars
Shapes of fish,,,Templars
Stars,,,,Templars
Kilroy was here,,,,,Templars

Kent
7/28/2019 11:38:21 pm

Also, he didn't know his current show is available on Hulu. A poster had to tell him.

Accumulated wisdom
7/26/2019 11:08:50 am

“You can be sure I will keep on doing what I'm doing. Anthony and I are having a civil discussion about a difference in interpretation about symbols. It's all good!”

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Joe Scales
7/26/2019 12:01:45 pm

The gold nugget here being that when Dawn makes a stand alone post in regard to the "creeps and their weird ideas", Wolter immediately relates it to his discussion with Anthony.

Accumulated wisdom
7/26/2019 06:38:49 pm

Didn’t you just recently announce that, “You are no longer in my thoughts”? And yet you continue to respond to my comments like an obsessed fanboy. I’d say that qualifies you as one of the “creeps”!

Joe Scales
7/26/2019 10:04:12 pm

Funny is funny Anthony.
I just build upon good material.
For this, I'm quite obliged.

Harvey the White Rabbit
7/27/2019 03:33:55 pm

Accumulated Wisdom, take it easy on Joe Scales. You must realize that this blog is his life. He has nothing else, no job, no family, no other interests. I mean he has to tie a pork chop around his neck to even get a dog to pay attention to him.

Kent
7/28/2019 12:11:57 am

Anthony Warren is the imbecile that keeps on giving.

Joe Scales
7/28/2019 11:19:47 am

Ah projectionism. So revealing, don't ya think?

Accumulated Wisdom
7/28/2019 02:28:34 pm

Harvey, I'm not sure why these two functionally illiterate buffoons feel the need to follow me around and compulsively respond to every comment that I post. It could be that they're still butt hurt over the numerous beat downs that they received from me in the past and they just can't let it go. Although I agree with you that they likely have no social life outside of blog comment sections.

Kent
7/28/2019 07:53:35 pm

You do keep on giving. Two things are funny here: that you think you've ever been right; and that you equate being right in a blog comment section with administering a "beat down".

You can be reliably counted on to:

1. make up stories
2. not remember any of the 2 to 5 books a day every day for the last 42 years you claim to have read and to cite books you don't remember
3. blame your mistakes on Autocorrect
4. sober up and claim someone is posting as you

What was that state that was supposed to have no bears?

Accumulated wisdom
7/28/2019 08:41:24 pm

See what I mean Harvey? And this one is either so inebriated or just plain stupid that he actually criticized me for characterizing a one sided argument in my favor as a “beat down” when in THIS VERY THREAD he tried to describe another argument as a “slapdown.” It’s not difficult to prevail against such dimwits when their fractured minds can’t even keep their own deranged ideas straight!

Kent
7/28/2019 08:51:50 pm

Says the guy who's literally talking to Harvey the Rabbit.

Kent
7/28/2019 11:03:56 pm

Anyway it's qualitatively different when Wolter does it to you because you seem to totally on his d*ck but want to propagate your own very special brand of idiocy. It is devoutly to be hoped that one day he'll tire of your "little guy from the Hercules cartoons" bit and becomes a "zealot" and bans you. In the meantime it's great sport to watch the confluence of stupid and challenged that Wolter and you produce.

Joe Zias
7/28/2019 08:06:21 pm

How does one determine the number of viewers watching a tv 'documentary' as in the world of biblical arch. there is a tendency to exaggerate the number of viewers I suspect.

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Joe Scales
7/30/2019 10:30:56 am

This just in:

Donald Ruh's scenes were cut from the episode. So much for crazy old men who fake artifacts and make up silly stories to bolster their sense of importance. .

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Jim
7/30/2019 12:44:43 pm

Extra, extra, read all about it !!!

http://scottwolteranswers.blogspot.com/2019/07/america-unearthed-season-4-episode-10.html

Aw,, no Donald Ruh and no Diana Muir. After feeding Wolter all their very best BS, Wolter can't even give a shoutout on the show ?

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Paul
7/30/2019 03:00:23 pm

Do not care to read Wolter's posted garbage. Maybe now that the series is over, hopefully for good, Wolter, Pulitzer, Muir, Ruh and friend Patrick can go do some Druid Templar dance around the Newport Tower. BTW, wonder what really happened between Wolter and Pulitzer, whose ego blew up first? Don't believe any of their xplr videos are available. Maybe they got sucked into a black hole Templar lozenge at 72 degrees..

Doc Rock
7/30/2019 04:08:12 pm

I don't think that it is coincidence that Wolter returned to full-retard Templar mode in order to close out the season with a teaser and lay the ground work for more of the same for the next season. I suspect that Muir and those of her ilk will eventually show up in force.

Kent
7/31/2019 02:31:58 am

You're being too soft. Wolter lives the full-retard lifestyle 24/7.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Baby_(film)

From his most recent posts:

"Further, the 2:1 ratio of the two lines of text speaks to the carver being initiated with knowledge sacred dimensions.

Al this together with the advanced stage of weathering of the inscription supports an age of several hundreds of years rather than a couple centuries.

I am the first professional person who any knowledge of an inscription like this who has weighed in that I am aware of."

Kong love rocks. Kong love blog. Kong not know what "professional person" is.

Jim
7/31/2019 03:27:22 am

I like how, on the show he disagrees that the Wemyss cave inscription is fairly modern and says the soot covering the carvings makes them medieval.
And then in his blog he includes a fairly decent photo that shows just how fresh and soot free they actually are.

"Put his brain on a razor blade and it would look like a BB rolling down a four lane highway."(John Nitzinger)

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mq3OcwZtqO4/XTuljBLnsUI/AAAAAAAABw4/vZBTI1_cSwsSi0ORmoC1gd8Ec15KjRXUgCLcBGAs/s1600/Tree%2Bof%2BLife.jpg

The Wemyss cave inscription is on the right.

Joe Scales
7/31/2019 10:29:50 am

"Further, the 2:1 ratio of the two lines of text speaks to the carver being initiated with knowledge sacred dimensions."

Yeah, I caught that gem from Wolter as well. I wonder if he allows questions at his presentations. He'll probably be doing more of those soon once his show gets the axe again. What a party it would be to crash one.

Jim
7/31/2019 01:08:36 pm

Re the 2:1 ratio:

WOLTER IS AN
IDIOT

Joe Scales
8/2/2019 10:15:20 am

And again, this just in:

Wolter has determined Greenland to be the 8th continent.

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Jim
8/2/2019 02:21:42 pm

I laughed at that last night.
When someone makes an idiotic comment on his blog, Wolter is forced to defend his King of the Idiots crown by saying something even more idiotic.

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Kent
8/2/2019 07:29:42 pm

This just in:

Scotty writes: "I'm very aware of the sacred geometry of the Pentagon, to say nothing about all the other geometric secrets in D.C. What is OES?"

"The Order of the Eastern Star is a Masonic appendant body open to both men and women. It was established in 1850 by lawyer and educator Rob Morris, a noted Freemason, but was only adopted and approved as an appendant body of the Masonic Fraternity in 1873."

Simple research is really not Wolter's thing. He has the dull stupid eyes of a brain damaged dog.

Jim
8/2/2019 02:30:01 pm

His Templar drip cup clock is in the running to usurp William Smiths Lodestone compass in the most nonsensical longitude measuring instrument category.

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Kent
8/2/2019 06:25:27 pm

That post is one of mine. Wolter doesn't do even simple research before shooting off his stupidity. The easternmost part of the United States is indeed in Alaska, and Greenland is indeed part of North America. As is Mexico. I could post again walking him through it but that wouldn't get published.

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Jim
8/2/2019 09:02:08 pm

I get the Greenland part, but you would have to walk me through this
" The easternmost part of the United States is indeed in Alaska,"

Kent
8/2/2019 10:33:28 pm

I'm gonna tough love you and say "look it up". You're better than Wolter, I know you are.

Jim
8/2/2019 11:45:06 pm

Umm,,,You do realize the entire country of Canada other than the Queen Charlotte Islands lies east of Alaska's eastern border ?

Surely you mean that the westernmost part of the United States is indeed in Alaska ? Not the easternmost.

Jr. Time Lord
8/2/2019 11:56:03 pm

Jim,

If, I remember correctly, due to the way the Earth is divided part of Alaska is technically in the East.

Kent
8/3/2019 12:25:10 am

Jim,

I still toughly love you, but what part of "look it up" is giving you trouble?

"Wolter says A and Kent says B, so I'm gonna not research it and side with Wolter."

I'm still in your corner. Pull up, Maverick!

Jim
8/3/2019 12:23:24 am

West is a direction, not a political boundary.

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Kent
8/3/2019 12:38:15 am

You're really not going to look it up? <biden>C'mon, man!</biden>

Let's babystep it. You understand that Reno, NV is west of Los Angeles, CA right?

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Jim
8/4/2019 12:02:30 am

So just to be clear, is this your argument: The Aleutian Islands are east of Alaska ?

Jim
8/3/2019 11:38:27 am

If you have a valid argument, spit it out.
The easternmost tip of Russia is both west and east of North America, doesn't make it both the western and easternmost part of Russia. The far east is a name not a direction.
Fun fact: South Dakota is in fact further north than is North Carolina.

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Kent
8/3/2019 09:47:03 pm

Okay, baby stepping didn't work. Let's try spoon feeding.
Go to your Google.
Type the word "easternmost" without the quote marks.
Type a space.
Type the word "Alaska" without the quote marks.
Press the Enter key on your keyboard.

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Jr. Time Lord
8/3/2019 10:14:26 pm

https://www.cntraveler.com/stories/2012-07-30/semisopochnoi-island-alaska-maphead-ken-jennings

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Jim
8/4/2019 11:09:51 am

Kent:

Okay, baby stepping didn't work. Let's try spoon feeding.
Go to your Google.
Type the word "easternmost" without the quote marks.
Type a space.
Type the word "Alaska" without the quote marks.
Press the Enter key on your keyboard. "

Why are you so afraid of articulating your point and putting it on the record ?

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Kent
8/4/2019 03:21:21 pm

Why the Wolteresque reluctance to look up something so simple?

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Jim
8/4/2019 04:37:21 pm

" Wolteresque",,, right back at you.

Why is it up to me to figure what your point it is you are arguing ?

O.K, I am going to guess that because you are trying to be clever and not actually making an argument is because you know the argument you want me to make in your stead is wrong and this allows you to later deny making such a silly argument.

"but, but I never said that"

Now your asinine belief that you won't own, seems to be (I can only guess here because you won't tell me) that Semisopochnoi Island, Alaska is east of Alaska because it happens to be in the Eastern hehisphere. (go ahead and correct me if this in not your point, since after repeatedly asking you what your argument is, I have only gotten vague hints and "look it up yourself")

The Eastern Hemisphere is a place name, you know like Chicago or California or United States of America or the Continent of North America or the Western Hemisphere or the Earth or the Milky way.
From mainland Alaska it is a very short distance in a westerly direction to the Eastern Russia, which is in the Eastern Hemisphere.
The Eastern Hemisphere is not a direction, and to quote Wolter) "but you already knew that".

I take it you believe North Carolina is north of South Dakota ?

Do you believe that driving west into East L.A. from West Covina means you are now east of Covina ?

Congrats on becoming that which you despise the most.
And congrats on having me argue a point you don't have the cajones to actually make.
Winner, winner, chicken dinner.

Kent
8/4/2019 05:18:44 pm

"easternmost part of" ≠ "east of"

Something that's in Alaska can't be "east of Alaska".

Bask in my brevity.

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Jim
8/5/2019 09:43:17 pm

"Bask in my brevity."

You should have used brevity prior to Wolter handing you your ass.
How embarrassing.

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Kent
8/5/2019 10:14:59 pm

My being right ≠ Wolter handing my ass.

For people like you who won't accept the right answer unless someone types it on your command, I offered as an alternative (note the word "or") Greenland, which I was surprised to learn is the 8th continent when Wolter handed me my ass.

You funny.

Nanooky of the North
8/6/2019 08:00:13 pm

Pay heap attention to Chief Kent. Him know all about Alaska and Arctic. Him learn from heap pretty Eskimo squaw who think that all Eskimos eat nothing but McDonalds and Taco Bell many many moons ago.

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Joe Scales
8/8/2019 11:35:08 am

So I finally catch this episode. The title probably should be changed to "Exodus of the Viewers". Oh my god this was stupid. And I mean STOOOOOOOOOOOOPID. To let this man just make shit up and throw it out there like an emboldened chimpanzee... just boggles the mind he can find a venue for such imbecility. If the outline of his show was submitted as a fifth grade history report... he would fail. I mean, that's the level of ignorance here.

So there Wolter is, back in the protected waters of his blog, falsifying the same old tired, disconnected narrative. He's even back to Winchell with this gem:

"The Kensington Rune Stone is an authentic artifact and uninformed "others" can think whatever they want. Every linguistic, runic, dialect, grammar and dating complaints have been overturned to say nothing about the hundreds of years-old weathering documented by Newton Winchell and myself."

Though Winchell, using cutting edge 19th century Geology, correctly figured the runes carved in calcite would have disappeared within thirty years of weathering, he also came up with the idiotic notion that the stone had to be buried for them to look so fresh. But I would be willing to imagine that if Winchell were brought back from the dead, given a refresher course in current science, and shown that weathering would have obliterated the runes in calcite whether or not buried for all that supposed time, he'd affirm the hoax. Wolter however, being a dishonest hack and falsifier of history, will not relent.

Wolter is also cowardly claiming victory over his critics whose comments he picks and chooses and ultimately censors. If he had any integrity behind his beliefs, he'd come to a neutral site and open himself up to unfettered inquiry accordingly.

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Jim
8/8/2019 02:08:50 pm

Wolter slays me.

" Every linguistic, runic, dialect, grammar and dating complaints have been overturned"

Says a known liar who is a complete amateur with no credentials whatsoever in the linguistic, runic, dialect and grammar aspects of this. Of course pretty much every professional in these aspects have for the last one hundred and twenty years have said the exact opposite.
As to his field of expertise, once you get past his lies and fakery, you can't find anyone else in this field who has done their homework that agrees with him either.
His imaginary peer reviews don't count.
He continues to shout from the rooftop that he is right and the rest of the world is wrong, and then come the baseless conspiracy theories to justify his quackery.

I used to wonder whether he was delusional or it was just about the fame and money. Given the predominance of shameless intentional lies, I have concluded it's all about the money.
He is one morally corrupt individual that these equally complicit networks use for their own ends, namely greed over truth.
All in all, a rather sordid bunch.

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