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Review of Ancient Aliens S07E12 "Alien Messages"

12/19/2014

67 Comments

 
Usually I start an Ancient Aliens review with some sort of tangentially related thought about this week’s episode topic. This week, however, I am going in cold and have only a vague idea what they’re going to be talking about. As Ancient Aliens S07E12 “Alien Messages” opens, the teaser claims that it will cover the ways in which the aliens are speaking to us through symbols, but as David Childress might say, you have to wonder, if the aliens can beam thoughts directly into our brains (S07E09) and insert their consciousness into baked goods (S07E11), why exactly do they need hidden messages encoded in ancient texts and architecture? A better question, though, is this: What happened to the scheduled episode "The Great Flood" and why was it replaced with what is in essence a slapped together clip show? Promos said that the "Great Flood" would air this week, but it did not, and new promos say that its "network premiere" will be next week instead. Does this mean that it will show up first somewhere else?
Segment 1
After the traditional brown title card, we hear how in the 1970s SETI beamed binary code into space as a message for any aliens that might hear us. Seth Shostak of SETI is on to explain this, and he is something of a hypocrite. Shostak appeared before Congress earlier this year to blast Ancient Aliens and yet continues to appear on the program, just as he did before his testimony. For all the damage he thinks it does to history, it does not stop him for lending his credibility to the show. We then see that a 2001 crop circle reflected the binary messages sent in the 1970s. So what? You’d need to establish that aliens made the crop circle before analyzing its message. Hugh Newman, last seen on Search for the Lost Giants, said it was either a “brilliant hoax” or aliens, and Andrew Collins pretends that it’s aliens until he slips in a qualifier at the end to give him an out in case you agree that humans could well have done this.

Next, the fact the Gottfried Leibniz modeled binary code on the I Ching is used as an excuse to discuss Chinese mythology, and the I Ching’s use of a binary system. This is a misunderstood distillation of a Guardian article from earlier this year which explained the Leibniz used male and female binaries for divination as an inspiration for the idea that information could be expressed as a binary. The I Ching was not itself a binary code, nor did it provide useful instructions for creating modern computers.

Segment 2
In the second segment, we look at the recent NASA book on hypothetical extraterrestrial communication, which the show purposely misrepresents as a manual on how to find communication with aliens. The show also fails to recognize that NASA did not write the anthology of academic papers, and that the author of the article they single out, William Edmondson, specifically said that rock art has nothing to do with aliens and is in fact an analogy for communicating with aliens. I wrote about this back in the spring. Here is what Edmondson really said:
Consider again, therefore, the desirability of establishing symbolic/linguistic communication with ETI [extraterrestrial intelligence]. It is helpful to review some parallels from human existence that pose problems for us today. One of these is “rock art,” which consists of patterns or shapes cut into rock many thousands of years ago. Such ancient stone carvings can be found in many countries, and the example in Figure 15.1 is from Doddington Moor, Northumbria, England. We can say little, if anything, about what these patterns signify, why they were cut into rocks, or who created them. For all intents and purposes, they might have been made by aliens. Unless we find a readable exegesis of them produced at the time they were made, we will never be able to say with certainty what the patterns mean.
After this we start recycling material from this year’s In Search of Aliens. We begin by recycling material from S01E04 about the Roswell Rock, a piece of magnetic stone engraved with a crude sandblasted etching of a 1996 crop circle. For more on the rock, please see my review of the episode devoted to it. In short, the rock is easily reproduced with normal human technology. I think it’s weird that Ancient Aliens pretends that material from In Search of Aliens was done independently of that show—they won’t acknowledge that the other show even exists, let alone that they are recycling footage from the show. They recycle the sandblasted replica and Linda Moulton Howe’s interview from the episode, but with Giorgio Tsoukalos edited out as though he weren’t there instigating all of this just off camera. 

In the Ancient Aliens version of the story, Howe now claims that the Roswell Rock has a coded “date” on it, and David Wilcock (whose pageboy haircut has become an unflattering shoulder-length ’do) agrees. But neither will state what the “date” is. The narrator unhelpfully tells us that it’s the date when the aliens will return, but, like the Second Coming of Christ, apparently no one knows the day or the hour despite having it written on that rock. Nice of them not to tell us, avoiding panic and all that sort of thing. 

Segment 3
In this segment we are discussing the Nazca lines with material recycled from In Search of Aliens S01E09 and S01E10. We start with S01E09’s discussion of the Band of Holes (first seen in an early Ancient Aliens episode called “The Mission”), a Peruvian strip of seemingly endless holes that legend says were meant to represent a giant snake. Ancient Aliens instead compares the band of holes to the standing stones of Carnac in France, a frequent subject of discussion on Ancient Aliens. They were featured in the first episode I ever watched, and I don’t think they ever shot new footage of the stones again. But in a twist, the show claims that the Carnac stones are “eerily similar” to an inverted Band of Holes because they are (very) roughly the same length and width—though not similar in the number of stones or holes. (Carnac is not one set of stones but several, unlike the single, straight Band of Holes.) In an interview when Wilcock had a different haircut (consistency be damned) Wilcock repeats information from Ancient Aliens S06E01 on whether Carnac has Pythagorean geometry. Unfortunately, that claim is still as meaningless now as it was when I wrote about it then.  

Segment 4
In this segment we retrace claims from In Search of Aliens S01E10 about whether the New Jerusalem texts (Ezekiel 40-48; Revelation 20-21) have an alien code involving multiple inscribed circles circles, where the plain meaning of the text refers only to a square. We thus follow that episode’s claims that there is a Nazca glyph that resembles a Buddhist mandala. As I wrote at the time, David Childress and Giorgio Tsoukalos “fail to note that the mandala they show on screen places the circle within a square, while this geoglyph places squares within a circle.” This brings us to the mandala-inspired Indonesian temple of Borobudur, but since that was covered in S05E01, they skip right over most of the arguments made in the past to instead ask whether squares and circles are designed to provide spiritual revelations. So far, though, there isn’t anything that would tie these shapes to aliens; even Tsoukalos can only muster a half-hearted claim that the ancient astronaut theory “excels” and seeking “connections” between ancient cultures—but no aliens are required for that!

Segment 5
This segment opens with Easter Island and its 900 statues. Then we fly over to Machu Picchu in Peru and Mohenjo Daro in India. The last of these the show claims (wrongly) suffered a nuclear explosion. Then Kathleen McGowan Coppens informs us that Ur, Giza, these three sites, Petra, and Persepolis were all built on a single Great Circle ringing the earth. After this we get a review of the Orion Correlation Theory that links the pyramids of Giza to Orion and its corollaries at Teotihuacan and the Hopi cities from earlier episodes. All of these are poor representations of Orion and, pace David Wilcock, none of these aligns perfectly to Orion—or, in the Hopi and Mexican cases—at all. See my review of S05E04, which covered the Teotihuacan connection and other Orion madness—from which this segment is abstracted badly.

Segment 6
As we slap together a few final thoughts, we talk about Francis Crick’s claims of panspermia, but with the coda that ancient astronaut theorists prefer directed panspermia—that DNA was sent to earth to create a particular type of life. We finish up this thought by repeating material from S06E14 about how junk DNA is involved in encoding alien secrets, and from S06E01 on why the number three is the key to unlocking the aliens’ secrets. But so uninterested is the show in doing anything more than pointing toward earlier episodes that David Wilcock doesn’t even explain his thoughts. Merely asserting that he has thoughts is now enough; long ago on this show argument yielded to assertion, and now assertions don’t even have to make sense!

If a viewer hadn’t seen earlier episodes, would any of this be comprehensible in the least? I barely followed their illogic, and I’ve seen all of it before. Ancient Aliens is a block of noise that looks like a TV show, but it’s more like a montage, a highlight reel for the imaginary program the producers think they’re making, run through a Cuisinart and reassembled into a dream-logic parody of television.

67 Comments
EP
12/19/2014 02:31:56 pm

In addition to the show misrepresenting the Guardian article, the latter also misrepresents Leibniz. He was not inspired by the I Ching. In fact, he developed the binary first, then applied it to the I Ching.

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.
12/23/2014 03:22:22 am

Herr Leibniz had quite an EGO.
to be inspired is to be open and
humble. the man was neither...
nor could he be. when certain,
he was very certain, when wrong,
he did not issue a retraction. if U
ask what fuel'd the great calculus
dispute, it is all unacknowledged
sources and antecedents. Leibniz
created a notation system, not an
improvement on a field of study. in
order to be aware of the I CHING
you either have texts in translation
or the texts themselves. he did not
read Mandarin, he was of his time.

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.
12/23/2014 03:40:40 am

binary existed before Leibniz just as gravity existed before Newton.
Herr "L" sought to link his binary with his monads with Plato's forms.
Toss in the NOUS of Plotinus, the well of souls. in the 1600s we see
science pull chemistry out of alchemy, astronomy out of astrology...
Herr "L" hoped his binary ideas would unify mathematics to theology
to philosophy, a unity not seen since the death of Pythagoras. He is
known for looking for a foundation for the universe smaller than an
atom, yet larger than a brane from String Theory. later on, Babbage
read Leibniz and build a precursor to our modern computers, with the
help of Ada Lovelace. Binary is binary, base two. As is the I Ching.
its the philosophical unity of a neo-platonic NOUS with dualism,
a way to perceive change. Monads avoid precise definitions, Plato had his exacting definitions for his forms, his archetypes, they have
not survived. Leibniz pushed his monads into the phisosophical void.

EP
12/24/2014 11:24:54 pm

Look, everybody! "." is calling Leibniz "Herr L". Because he's German. Isn't "." clever?

.
12/25/2014 02:31:50 pm

duckie, it would have been more fun to call I/ Newton
Herr Newton, and G.Leibniz Mister Leibniz in honor
of the ancient texts in translation both as students had
access to that let them dream bold dreams. My point
is that two notation systems were hatch'd from a Crest
of the Peacock egg metaphoric. Yes, Newton had kin
who were Catholic and his political affiliation was such
so as to connect him to the House of Stuart, and had a
bias that sat with the Crown, and as to the FRENCH coins
from the minions of the SUN Kynge that ended up in young
Monsieur Leibniz's hands, yes... even if Newton HAD been
the guy who invented Leibniz's system, he dare not go past
his own FLUXIONs for Merrie Auld England in the tyme of
the Star Chamber had an Inquisition stupider than the very
Italian one Galileo faced. Yes, Herr + Mister + Monsieur "L"
yes... DOCTOR PANGLOSS... in honor of Voltaire, drink a
toast to the guy, who tried to define Plato better than Plato had!

a new year's SACRED BEE HIVE resolution....
12/26/2014 02:20:07 pm

in 2015 i will only post here tn times for every single posting
of mine SCOTT WOLTER allows on his blog. this thread is
my proof positive that my own HUMAN brain is quite capable
of a verbal output 1/5th that of Jason, but not at his quality. I am
a lesser disciple of HUNTER THOMPSON, only three posts
in this thread are on topic and CHF01 has made at least two
of them. He did like my take on Drake's Equation. I know it was
"cutting edge" science in the 1960s. Yes, the E.Ts are as remote
as ever, they are still watching us. G.T is the High Priest of the
EvD cult, yes. Jason hath keyboard and a prolific nature that
has us all wondering if he's handed stuff by his "frat boy" friends
that he rewrites. If he is more of a "one man band" than Bob Dylan
or Spike Jones ever was, we await the A.U episode where Scott
Wolter has Amazon tended Sacred Bee Hives on Doggerland.
Why did he drag Steve StC all the way to the Channel, i ask!



i am waiting for the Robert Graves & Joseph Campbell inspired
SACRED BEE hive episode about Doggerland, the Amazon
Motherland, the greatly flooded land that goes under before
6000 B.C ----- Clearly the Amazons migrated to near Yalta, y'all.
They also sent ships to Brazil. Chevrons and sand dunes, yes.
I admire the "true grit" of that Holocene Impact Academia Group!

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Kal
12/19/2014 04:07:34 pm

Having met Seth Shostack I suspect he doesn't know how this show is making him look like a fringe thinker. He was probably just hinting at the possibility of alien life. It does not mean he thinks aliens came here and made monuments.

I know crop circles are hoaxes. I saw people do them. Imitations on them in stone were made after the circles.

You don't need aliens to know people can carve rocks or make tall sculptures of people. Humans are just as smart now as we were then, just not sophisticated. The fact that humans figured out how to carve rock things and make pyramids and all that proves we're creative, not that aliens did it.

That date was December 21, 2012. Been there. No doomsday. Nothing to see here.

"None shall know the time or hour of his glorious return." Revelation.

"False prophets will come like wolves in sheep's clothing." Ezekeil

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Kal
12/19/2014 04:10:14 pm

Still waiting for the follow up to all that 2012 bull pucky where they never got any hint of Nibiru or any kind of doomsday, so we can riff on to those same people since they were wrong.

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Clint Knapp
12/21/2014 12:57:32 am

Seth Shostack is a regular guest of Coast to Coast AM. He knows exactly the sort of people he's getting in bed with when he agrees to make appearances such as these and does it anyway.

Often when real science meets the fringe it is out of a misconstrued belief that doing so exposes the fringe audience to something legitimate, but in reality it only serves to legitimize the fringe beliefs being put forth.

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Duke of URL
12/20/2014 02:25:21 am

I'm curious. Having never seen that show, I was wondering who its sponsors are. Can you illuminate me?

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jiiikoo
12/20/2014 03:26:58 am

I think you mean "Can you "Illuminati" me"?

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Hulk Hogan
12/29/2014 07:58:10 am

Who do you think, brother? It's the New World Order. Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, and I bankroll this show so we can take over the world. WHATCHA GONNA DO WHEN THESE 24-INCH REPTILIAN PYTHONS RUN WILD ON YOU!?

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Shane Sullivan
12/20/2014 07:13:26 am

It was kind of sad hearing Wilcock--jumping back and forth between the hair styles of 90s mainstays Ellen Degeneres and David Spade--stumble through that analogy about the Encyclopedia Britannica.

But I couldn't help but laugh his claim that Pythagoras invented the right triangle. =P

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Duke of URL
12/20/2014 09:18:05 am

Oh, SURELY he didn't claim that! No-one past 6th grade could be that stupid.

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EP
12/20/2014 12:50:24 pm

There are philosophers who claim things like that for fancy theoretical reasons. For real.

Shane Sullivan
12/20/2014 05:23:48 pm

I think it's likely that he confused the right triangle itself with the Pythagorean theorem--although, at best, Pythagoras invented the proof, not the actual formula, so Wilcock was still a bit off.

Still, could David Wilcock have failed to pass the sixth grade? You have to ask yourself...

Alaric
12/20/2014 10:30:33 am

Of course Pythagoras invented the right triangle. And Newton invented gravitation. Before Newton's time, everything just sort of floated around.

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EP
12/20/2014 12:47:05 pm

Funny thing is, lots of people do say that Newton "discovered" gravitation, which is every bit as nonsensical as saying that he "invented" it.

Dr Pangloss...is... Dr Pangloss
12/25/2014 03:15:52 pm

righto auld chap say whot!
the auld bean clearly put
the universe to rights with his
Principia. GOTO "Frequency"
the recent movie and the subtle
swignificance of 1760 and spells.
FREQUENCY talks of THE BOOK.
at the end of the reign of James II
either Newton the Medieval magus
cast a spell so that reality would become
normalcy normal and more boring or
Science happens and Superstition almost
ceases. We either live in a universe where
Magic changes our rules or we live in one
where Magic is unable to change our rules
and laws. Each human rain is different. it
is impossible to be exact copies of each other.
KANT was schooled better, he did what Leibniz
thought he was doing, he redefined Philosophy.
Had the loe and knowledge in Leibniz's tyme
been equal to that in KANT's, he'd have almost
been able to do what Kant did. Remember the
Sci-fFi series Dean Stockwell & Scott Bakula had
co-starr'd in? A poor time traveler goes back in time
to the life of a person he is contemporary to, and then
lives it out, but better. If we could swap Newton for
Einstein if both are in their fifth year, something like
the Principia emerges, but not Calculus as quickly,
all rests on Leibniz becuz he hath nobody to copy from
and then reverse engineer. Newton if living out Einstein's
life from the age of 5 onward easily misses Relativity. Do
trust me, Science remains prior to fission and fusion and
not at Trinity or much more. Lets name the BRIGHTEST
German EVER! Hint... it ain't HERR LEIBNIZ. dude was a
clever copycat, clearly. Newton is 90% of the reason WHY
Plantard's list looks totally valid, and why Ben Franklin did
become a significant scientist in his own right. its sorta cool
Franklin + Voltaire chummed about in London in 1725!!!! it
also is cool they meet as Newton is the ruling intellect of the
hour although 80something. Voltaire gossips about Newton's
half-niece. Scott Wolter needs to dig deep into 1600s lore in
order to be better versed on the Lodge "intel" Auld Ben knew,
that Gen'L Washington was cognicent of. Toss in James Monroe
and Bill McKinley, and you have a theme. Curiously, Andrew
Johnson was a Mason, but his lodge paperwork burnt up during
our Civil War. We know Freemasonry looked like a Whig distemper
to any true and Loyalist loyal Tory. We know it took our own true
WHIG Conservatives 200 years to approximate the pure smug
elitism of the Tories who thought George IV was too radical a
monarch. Scott Wolter is grounded firm if you look at how the
Sons & Daughters of Liberty organized. he wants to link the KRS
to this, but if the more proper link is the trading networks for all
ancient mammoth and mastodon ivory, then we as a Hemisphere
were not as isolated. again... the basic question is the same Q
despite the century or aeon or millennium. are we in an isolation
or are there things that once put us on a map? S.W is 100% lucid.

Only Me
12/26/2014 05:05:01 am

Dickey, after seeing this latest example of verbal vomit, you claiming Scott Wolter lucid is as laughable as your attempts to introduce anything relevant to the topic at hand.

Jeremy
12/29/2014 08:26:22 am

Chris Jericho invented the right triangle.

Seriously, right triangles, the Carnac stones, Orion--give us something we haven't seen before! How many times does Ancient Aliens have to keep repeating the same tired ass-pulls over and over again? Hell, how is this show even still on the air?

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Steve in SoDak
12/20/2014 11:12:42 am

"A better question, though, is this: What happened to the scheduled episode "The Great Flood" "

The answer is, there was an actual flood in the production building and they lost all their material so they slapped together whatever anyone had saved on their personal computers. (I don't know this for a fact, but it fits with how they operate over at AA)

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Joseph Craven
12/21/2014 07:01:40 am

Reading the review it does come across as being put together in a rush. Maybe they stumbled into racism again in the Great Flood episode? I don't know, maybe they repeated an extremely racist version of the curse of Ham, and somehow realized it before airing.

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CHF01
12/22/2014 08:14:01 am

I feel that AA has made a few valid points about the possibility of ET visits in the remote past. However, their half baked and unsupported theories, their weak approach to research and any resemblance of real thought processes being put into what they are presenting makes them look kind of silly.

The fact that Neil DeGrasse Tyson hasn't made an appearance tells me he possibly isn't on board with their ideas either. Neil is Carl Sagan's protégé. Carl is someone that is spoken about in many of the show's past episodes....so where is Neil? -->By the way, Neil's reboot of Cosmos is worth checking out.

Back to AA: often times you hear the regulars say, "The evidence clearly shows..." What this evidence is, is never clearly stated. Why the presenter thinks it's a valid talking point is not mentioned. Jason Martell does this repeatedly. So I'm left guessing as to what it is exactly that makes them argue for the points they present. If you are going to argue for the presence of ETs in the past, there needs to more precise data for this belief, even if some of the facts aren't conclusive. The show instead opts to do a high level fly by of things that are never really dealt with in any great detail.

I'd rather see them take their time, research things in greater detail, plan their material presentations and THEN release episodes for viewing. Show the viewer the ancient texts in questions. Show the viewer what the evidence is that clearly proves something and explain why. Show timelines, expand on theories and really get to the heart of the topic matter being presented.

Get some proven scholars and astrophysicists on the show that can both argue for and against the material. Have an open debate on topics, i.e. the age of the Easter Island statues, to listen to both sides of the argument and let the viewer decide.

I thought the show really started off well and I've seen it go steadily gone downhill. Some of the topic matter is really intriguing. Lately the episodes gives the appearance of being rushed out the door, due to what I can only assume is to cash in on its popularity while it lasts. The problem with this line of thinking is AA won't stand the test of time when being viewed in later years.

Anyway, this episode in my opinion offers nothing really new in their search for AA in the past. Much of the material is similar and repetitiveness, with no real updates of their research being offered or presented.

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.
12/23/2014 03:58:02 am

SETI, Drake's Equation and Pansporia are close to cutting edge
science in terms of the probability of sapience existing in the vast
universe, but A.A has ALL the earmarks of a rarefied "saucer" cult.
its a belief system construct that is like a mortar as to the gaps in
tradition's walls & foundations. the shows have memes & themes.
many ethical Atheists do not construct new Gods and Goddesses
in lieu of the ones that have departed. Finding Bigfoot has its own
quiet moments when it connects up with science, A.A oft'n does
not. it invokes science yet avoids the same, with its mysticism...

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CHF01
12/23/2014 06:16:26 am

Well stated.

When this show first launched, Giorgio was quoted in the first season stating, "The Ancient Alien theory will be proven correct!", or something like that. I thought...Wow, maybe these guys are going up against the Guardians of the Paradigm. I can't to see what they have in store. I thought the show over time would take things to the next level, debating real topics like Puma Punku, the Annunaki, Nazca lines, ancient stone work and movement of those stones, DNA analysis of elongated skulls, Gobekli Tepe, crystal skulls, and so on, with folks like Jason that aren't on the same page.

Instead we're confronted with episode after episode of unsubstantiated half-baked theories, misleading and deceptive representations and plenty of repetitive, stale information. I'm beginning to believe they're afraid to standup to the world and defend their theories.

Dr Pangloss = MISTER Leibniz = Dr Pangloss link
12/25/2014 03:52:04 pm

Typo.... up above Dr P=Dr P
ALL HUMAN BRAINS ARE TOTALLY
UNIQUE. THERE ARE NO UNIVERSAL
WORDS THAT ARE IDENTICAL FROM BRAIN
TO BRAIN, EVEN LOGIC IS FUZZY.

------->"We either live in a universe where
Magic changes our rules or we live in one
where Magic is unable to change our rules
and laws. Each human BRAIN is different."


words are not real, only mathematics is real.
Plato is correct. we live inside our own small
universes inside a physical universe that is
lattice work woven into multiverses with themes
and memes most similar. we are branching out.

saw a subtitled flic. GRENDEL stars in it. Ragnarok.
Beowulf in reality was killed by a beastie worse in its
mood and disposition than Scotland's own sweet Nessie
having PMS monthly. Saw Soviet bunkers in it. tres cool.
EP --- if you ever go up into that section of Norway near
the border of Findland and the Auld U.S.S.R... if you see
a cute lil repitle creature that looks like a snake that hatches
from a big egg sorta like and ostrich's, DO NOT MAKE A
PET of it and take it home. Momma went on a rampage.
TROLL HUNTER is a neat flic.. i think they had a good
special effects department, the 1000 year old Viking helmut
although muddy looked very reral. they even had a neat
runestone. Here is the X-Files meets Scot Wolter moment..
an instrument sorta like what a dentist uses to get calculus
and placque off one's teeth was used on the old runestone
by the erudite university staffer and his close friend.. They did
look like they were digging deeper into the runestone a la S.W!

seriously, here is the movie. it has its moments like an X-File
episode. Grendel likes humans, Grendel won out. Nessie is
nicer. Do pardon the 1990s CGI, its low budget but neat.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN-rMrXFhbg

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/gaten_ragnarok/

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Only Me
12/26/2014 05:13:50 am

Off topic.

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no... this is on topic
12/26/2014 01:59:00 pm

"We either live in a universe where
Magic changes our rules or we live in one
where Magic is unable to change our rules
and laws. Each human BRAIN is different."

G.T is either logical because we live in a Mystic's
universe or "off topic" because we live in Newton's
universe that he glimpsed in Da Vinci's notebooks.
Einstein's universe is the STAR TREK universe we
see at TREK CONVENTIONs. trust me. Spells often
fail. BIG HINT! the Dunwitch Horror is impossibel.
Conan the Barbarian was a Neolithic Moron with
only 95 Neolithic I.Q points. He was crude. Cruder
than THE CROODS. Y'all totally assume becuz we
see Robert E. Howard saying Conan was very bright,
that he's as bright as we are. Conan is "roid rage" in
animal skins. Usually he is very lucky, the control freaks
he slaughters with his steel blade are often unlucky but
way brighter than he is. By all means, if he has a steel
blade, and not a bronze or iron one, be kind and hand
a forge worthy of an A.D date to 50,000 B.C so y'alll can
meet Giorgio "T" halfway on A.A's own turf. If the amount
of steroids Arnold "S" took in NYC and Hollywood in order
to play CONAN clues us into his "method acting" then I am
very wromg, and Conan is completely 20th Century. Arnold
did rather well with the critics. Someone even made a MAD
MAX version of Beowulf. Can you bee kind to mee as i wait
for Scott Wolter to articulate out that Doggerland had beekeeping
and Sacred Bee Gives? When Sherlock Holmes wants to go
to Sussex in Kent in his retirement and keep BEES its becuz
Kent was once part of Auld Doggerland at about 9000 B.C!!!!
A. Conan Doyle also assumed his Sherlock was very bright, too.
I'm assuming all characters a writer creates are stupider than they are, for they only exist in part of the writer's copious brain tissues.

Only Me
12/26/2014 02:11:19 pm

Still off topic.

.
12/26/2014 02:39:40 pm

Only Me ---- Wormholes are curious. If our "magic" is real,
they can't work or be reliable. Magic changes rules. Newton's
science if real has firm rules. Even if it takes a half million years,
they can get here if they plan ahead. Einstein is nicer. His rules
get them here quicker. ION drives. Trust Me. G.T assumes
that magic and wormholes work. Both louse up linear time....
This is basic Sci-Fi lore. Newton modified our brains with his
Principia. This is in excess of anything Humphrey Newton's
bloodline could accomplish if he was Newton's bastard hidden
away son. Each time we step into Calculus, we step into all
mental synaptic pathways evidently Newton and Leibniz had,
that maybe the E.Ts lack. Just saying. each discovery changes
our brains. Even the sheer pain students of Calculus experiance
upon being tested has no equal in the Humanities. it is unique.
Human Brains are unique. our friend "EP" assumes words
are universal. Pythagoras was more correct, numbers are the
Sacred Universal. WORD is not universal, its Christian boasts.
WORD = Confusion = Disorder in Philosophy. Kant = Plato
or Kant transcends and almost equals Plato's ethics in full with
his Categorical Imperative. Either "magic' works or it doesn't.
Triple Six hoped "dunwitch" was real, and was a gateway too...

Only Me
12/26/2014 03:17:11 pm

This STILL has nothing to do with alien /communication/.

.
12/26/2014 03:49:52 pm

soooooooooooooooooooooo

the only way i'd be "on topic" is to

suddenly claim Et Aliens are beaming


Platonic archetypes into my brain, but

if I have an opinion on G.T and Plato


as to where they overlap in talking about

Atlantis or Zeus or the hypothetical Ets i am wrong?

I can't agree that all ET ALIENs are a hallucination,

i know they are alive. i do think they avoid us often....

G.T has an idea, some of the "old" gods are E.Ts and

from what i can see, Jason has yet to prove him wrong totally.

or i am wrong, and Jason never proves him wrong at all ever.

Only Me
12/26/2014 04:35:49 pm

Yes. That's why the episode is called "Alien Messages".

You don't know that aliens are alive. You'd have to produce tangible, testable and verifiable evidence of that.

Giorgio Tsoukalos has never had an idea that didn't come from Erik von Daniken. Jason has already proven there is no distinction between their definition of extraterrestrials and ancient peoples' definition of gods, though GT insists the aliens are flesh and blood creatures.

Ms. Jean Dickey who is not one of the Georgia Dickeys
12/26/2014 05:23:57 pm

We agree. Jason reviews each A.A "ep" lookin' for
an independent idea from G.T that EvD never had!

Whitley Strieber, i think, has maybe 50/50 odds of talking with
the ETs from time to time. I was at Whitley's site. I totally
respect the man. He is not a cult leader, EvD is, however.

I'm going to go William Warren one better as i trace our
Great Ape ancestry out of Antartica over Berengia or Beringia
to the other Georgia to Africa and our full SAPIENCE some
70,000 years ago even though at 300,000 B.C all our wise
Deisovan, Neaderthal and Early Modern Human ancestors
were much brighter than we are. We are a devolution as living
skills is trumped by communication skills. most societies prior
to 300,ooo B.C were less violent and did not often ostracize.
Malthus may be more correct than Einstein, Newton or Darwin.
Heck, to disprove me, on Great Ape ancestry between 15 million
to 3 million years ago, the glacier ice at the center of Antarctica
needs to be a vast lake, i know i have 70 years before i look like
a total idiot if wrong! We know Antarctica had vast forests, poor
frozen Mr Scott in 1912 found fossils and specimens of vegetation.
I'm wonderiing if Scott Wolter will go along with my idea. Like the
Mars "femur" this is a topic that could hand A.U an episode that
is not a clip show, as we lecture about global warming. Y'all did
dump on me for CALICO and LOUIS LEAKEY's ancient eyes....
In 2015 i'm most likely in the summer to be at the RonPaulForums,
several BigBro CBS fansites, and poor Whitley's site again. I
think I'm seeing common ground emerge in this healthy talk
between Scott and Jason on ancient Chinese maps. Between
you and me, were I a contestant on AMAZING RACE, i'd have
a tough time guessing where i am if i had only them to go by in
my quest for the prize money. CBS would be handing the cash
to a rival. I so wanted EP the Humanist and Jean the Theologian
to hash over Calculus for real. He was supposed to praise Herr Leibniz in a Steve Allen aspected MEETING OF MINDS rehash
of the Great Calculus Feud. I actually gave him the better perch
on God's or Goddess's universe to argue from. Spookt knows
Science, Grunt does, too. Gunn was perceptive. It took a while
to realize he had to be bannish'd for his being at least a 50/50 flip
of the coin Heads or Tails correctness. Gunn started to see the
true age of the KRS, and Joan Pope hinted to me from N.S that
at least one of the M.N stone*holes is as old as Chaucer but was
not drilled by an Englishman. Luv --- A.A = Saucer Cult totallt!!!!

.
12/26/2014 05:34:26 pm

stupid stupid stupid 1980s "Terminator" drone idea...
an ancient war not of this Earth leaves behind robot drones
who spend millions of years on patrol, always. is this why
"saucer" reports seem to be alike over the half century
that sees America win and then dissipate a Cold War win?
this would place objects up in our skies but not as many
organic entities as UFO believers theorize & hypothesize.
Since BLUEBOOK, the continuity is more obvious than
the subtle changes. The ground rules have not changed
even though we as a species are rapidly becoming more
Post-Industrial. Something is constant inside UFOLOGY...

Dickey, first name Trickey
12/26/2014 06:07:27 pm

http://www.amazon.com/Laboratory-Investigations-Biology-2nd-Edition/dp/0805367896
Jean L Dickey wrote this text.

The net is a TURING TEST and if we think
JET PROPULSION LAB, Jean O. Dickey
worked there very recently. I am typing on
a Keyboard. Are these women my kin if
i am distantly related to Theophillus L Dickey from
Illionois, who knew Honest Abe in his younger days?
Would I have lied to y'all about myself if on the internet?
again, Nixon was almost impeach'd in 1974 and
had he been on trial, he'd have been convicted.
Senator AuH2O told him to park his butt end in
a very retired chair for once. he leaves the Oval Office.
i sorta miss auld Trickey Dickie, who had Richard Cheney
around him as one of his young interns. Cheney hath
Dickey ancestry. It took me a while to get over this! :)
Did you know Richard Nixon tended to hire his near
and distant cousins? Thankfully I have Cox blood in
common with JFK and his kin! I also have a distant Bush
connection. to learn that our POTUSes to a 99 percentile
are distant or close cousins or closer is sorta cool, i feel.
we are somewhere between a meritocracy and an old
oligarchy. we think we are a Democracy, but dig deeper!

i know why William Warren makes the polar mistake he did.
Newton would have picked up on the curious ocean currents.

http://scienceandtechnology.jpl.nasa.gov/people/j_dickey/

Jean O. Dickey

Education
Ph.D. Rutgers University (New Brunswick, NJ), Physics, 1976
M.Phil. Rutgers University Physics, 1975
M.S. Rutgers University Physics, 1975
B.S. St. Francis University (Loretto, PA) Physics
Research Interests
Geodynamics & Atmospheric Dynamics
Angular Momentum Budget Studies of the Earth
Solid Earth-Atmosphere-Ocean Interactions
Time Variable Gravity
Climate Studies
Space Geodesy
Professional Experience
Research positions at Caltech/Campus & JPL
Research Faculty Appointment (1977-1980) Campus
JPL since 1980, Principal Research Scientist with the title of Senior Research Scientist, Group Supervisor (1983-2007)
Selected Awards
Elected Fellow, American Geophysical Union
Fellow, International Association of Geodesy
NASA Exceptional Scientific Achievement Medal (2003)
NASA Exceptional Service Medal (1998)
Sigma Xi
NASA Group Achievement Awards (Galileo Team, GPS Calibration Tracking System/Kalman Earth Orientation Filter Earth Measurement Team and Solid Earth-Atmosphere Interaction Team among others)
Invited Discourse (XXIInd International Astronomical Union General Assembly, August 1994)
Bowie Lecturer (American Geophysical Union, 1993)
Invited Lecture, Frontiers in Geophysics (American Geophysical Union, May 1988)
Keynote speaker, Gravity, Geoid and Geodynamics, 2000 (Banff, Canada)
Selected Publications
Dickey, Jean O., Steven L. Marcus and Olivier de Viron, Air temperature and anthropogenic forcing: Insight from the Solid Earth, J. Clim, January 15 Issue, 569, 2011.
Dickey, Jean O., Steven L. Marcus and Olivier de Viron, Closure in the Earth’s angular momentum budget observed from subseasonal periods down to 4 days: No core effects needed, Geophys. Res. Lett., 37, L03307, doi:10.1029/2009GL041118, 2010.
Landerer, F. W., J. O. Dickey, and A. Güntner, Terrestrial water budget of the Eurasian Pan-Arctic budget of the Eurasian pan-Arctic from GRACE satellite measurements during 2003­2009, J. Geophys. Res., 115, D23115, doi:10.1029/2010JD014584, 2010.
Marcus, S. L., O. de Viron, and J. O. Dickey, Abrupt Atmospheric Torque Changes and Their Role in the 1976-77 Climate Regime Shift, J. Geophys. Res., doi:10.1029/2010JD015032, 2010.
Marcus, S. L., O. de Viron, and J. O. Dickey (2010), Interannual atmospheric torque and El Niño–Southern Oscillation: Where is the polar motion signal? J. Geophys. Res., 115, B12409, doi:10.1029/2010JB007524.
Dickey, JO, O de Viron, Leading Modes of Torsional Oscillations within the Earth’s Core, Geophys. Res. Lett., Leading modes of torsional oscillations within the Earth's core Volume: 36 Article Number: L15302, 2009.
Marcus, S.L., J.O. Dickey, I. Fukumori, and O. de Viron (2012), Detection of the Earth rotation response to a rapid fluctuation of Southern Ocean circulation in November 2009, Geophys. Res. Lett., 39, L04605, doi:10.1029/2011GL050671
Dickey, JO, SL Marcus, and JK Willis, Ocean Cooling: Constraints from Changes in Earth's Dynamic Oblateness (J2) and Altimetry, Geophys. Res. Lett., 35: 18: L18608, 2008.
Dickey, JO, Steven L. Marcus & TM Chin, Thermal wind forcing & atmospheric angular momentum: Origin of the Earth’s delayed response to ENSO, Geophys. Res. Lett, 34, 7, 2007.
Chin, T. M., R. S. Gross & J. O. Dickey, Multi-reference evaluation of Uncertainty in Earth orientation parameter measurements, Journal of Geodesy, 79, 24, 2005.
Chin TM, Gross RS, Dickey JO, Modeling and forecast of the polar motion excitation functions for short-term polar motion prediction, J of Geodesy 78 (6): 343-353, 2004.
Marcus, S.L., O. de Viron, & J.O. Dickey, Atmospheric

Only Me
12/26/2014 06:11:29 pm

This is my last attempt. After this, if you choose to remain a lost cause, I hope Jason deletes every comment you make from henceforth.

I'll tell you why I'm so hard on you. The bulk of your comments are disjointed, unintelligible and rarely on topic. You've been asked to change this, to no avail. You've been reminded of the comments policy due to your violations. Jason has deleted your comments in droves and you refuse to learn your lesson.

Since none of the previous efforts have had an effect, I've chosen to be as blunt with you as Jason's policy will allow...but nowhere *near* as blunt as I CAN be. This seems to be the only way to get your attention. I've told you point blank before to stop posting. Remember what happened? All your comments were removed. I'll be perfectly frank; if I had moderator privileges, all but four of your comments here would escape deletion. To be fair and responsible, I'd delete all my replies to those comments, as well. I don't have that power, but Jason does. If our comments are gone tomorrow, it's because Jason decided they weren't worth keeping. He doesn't owe you or me an explanation; it's his blog.

Based on your behavior, I'm forced to come to one conclusion: you're intentionally being irritating and obtuse and your only reason for being here is to disrupt and distract. Only you can disprove this.

There is no excuse for not following the rules. It's disrespectful to Jason and everybody else.

JAD
12/26/2014 06:28:47 pm

if memory serves me correct,
you and EP have been extremely rude.

As i said to Jason, if he deleats me,
he does not "own" my brainfreezes or gonzo.

we can call up a FOIA file inside NSA if we get
technical. A "blog' is not a newspaper
like the New York Times. Jason tends not
to violate his own rules, and I have obeyed his
rules. I am being an Objectivism strict definition of
net ownership a la Ayn Rand. i did toss out
initials. the net is a Turing Test. Most likely
the Ets are alive and like to communicate. period.
I think I have obeyed Jason's rules as often as Jason has
his own rules. Of course I am more correct about Plato but
Jason footnotes better than i do. This is obvious...

jad
12/26/2014 06:42:35 pm

FLAT OUT, "ONLY ME" the Facebbok setting....

JASON OWNS HIS OWN DARN BLOG.


JASON IS NOT MY SLAVE OR SURF BUT HE IS

RIDING TOWARDS FAME VIA SCOTT WOLTER's

BETTER "KRS" BRAINFREEZES. If we all are waiting

for a mess of DAMN Nielson ratings, we all are sounding like

the people ROBERT ALTMAN did up the film THE PLAYER on!

we are not inside a medieval shltered academia setting, we are

world and sounding like policy wonks or advertizing or PR people.

Jason for once is quitting with the BS and at least is communicating


with Scott directly. this is a sign of psychic health. SPHYNX is

thankful. PLato said 9000 SOLAR years. now we see the

city/village in Turkey uncovered and Chimeras again in tyme.

G.T and EvD are total idiots but there is hope for thee + EP!

a test question
12/25/2014 11:13:02 pm

1.) DEFINE RAGNOROK


A.) RagnArok = Islandic Volcano in a bad mood

B.) RagnArok = Beowulf's Grendel when mature

C.) RagnArok = Flic with a lousy RottenTomatoes review

D.) RagnArok = Something Wagner was wrong about...

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Only Me
12/26/2014 05:14:25 am

Irrelevant.

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.
12/26/2014 01:20:43 pm

the E.T Aliens like us and not for dinner.... as a food item.
RAGNAROK is a death phase, an extinction event, an end
of an era. A fiery ending of an era hinting at a Supervolcano
or a string of earthquakes or volcanos. Or the recent horror
flic is correct, its a name variation for Beowulf's Grendel. It
is very relevant in light of all Millennial fears inside a nuclear
age. We Americans live inside the boundaries of a nation
that dropped two atomic bombs in order to end a war. ALL
OUR NUKES IF DETONATED WOULD MAKE RICHARD
WAGNER'S OPERATIC THEATRICS LOOK QUAINT AND
SILLY, IF WE ALL BE GODS AND GODDESSES IN TOTAL
COMMAND OF THIS PLANET. We can only be the last big
dominant species by being the very last sapient species on
Earth, is our destiny a self inflicted Apocalypse we have created?
Are we living before an extinction event we ourselves trigger?
Snorri Sturluson is kinder, he assumes our Gods & Goddesses
lived at the start of the Neolithic, and were deified over time...
We are either monotheists or into Self worship or Ancestor
worship. Or a weird combo of all three. If Wurm = Dragon and
Satan is in Eden's garden, is Grendel near but badly mutated kin
to the wise, wily Reptoid who likes apples often? Just asking...

E.) ALL OF THE ABOVE

F.) NONE OF THE ABOVE

G.) SOME OF THE ABOVE


Giorgio "T" brought up the nasty Reptile aliens hurling space rocks
at us meme inside the episode, if Ragnarok is an Apocalypse that
nature or God does not create but is planned out by very sapient beings... then you say Tomah-Toe and i say To-MAY-toe... when
reading tomato! It may happen....maybe... if G.T is not in BS mode!

Only Me
12/26/2014 02:12:18 pm

Still irrelevant.

A Critic
12/25/2014 11:44:37 pm

Again... a Review by Jason "C"

http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/review-of-ancient-aliens-s05e11-the-viking-gods

GUNN IS OFTEN PERCEPTIVE...

"The first challenge is rather literal. In order to demonstrate that the Norse gods were extraterrestrials, ancient astronaut “theorists” (AATs) ask us to accept that the written sources we have for their actions, primarily the Poetic (Elder) Edda and the Prose (Younger) Edda, cited explicitly in the show, are accurate reports of the actions of the gods, with technology misunderstood as magic. In order to do so, AATs posit that such texts are accurate and can be accepted at face value. In so doing, however, this assumption produces an insurmountable contradiction. Snorri Sturluson, the author of the Prose Edda, writes in his preface to that work that the gods were not gods at all but regular human beings, and the mistaken assumption that mere men could be gods was caused by Zoroaster, who chose to be worshipped as Baal: “From him arose the error of idolatry; and when he was worshiped he was called Baal; we call him Bel; he also had many other names. But as the names increased in number, so was truth lost; and from this first error every following man worshiped his head-master, beasts or birds, the air and the heavenly bodies, and various lifeless things, until the error at length spread over the whole world.”

Worse, Snorri said the Norse gods were not gods at all but earthly kings—of the Roman period:

And so much power accompanied these men for many ages after, that when Pompey, a Roman chieftain, harried in the east region, Odin fled out of Asia and hither to the north country, and then he gave to himself and his men their names, and said that Priamos had hight Odin and his queen Frigg, and from this the realm afterward took its name and was called Frigia where the burg stood. And whether Odin said 44 this of himself out of pride, or that it was wrought by the changing of tongues; nevertheless many wise men have regarded it a true saying, and for a long time after every man who was a great chieftain followed his example.

Snorri was being cute, I guess, in making Phrygia in Asia Minor the homeland of Frigg!

By what criteria are AATs accepting certain facets of the Eddas as true but rejecting the contradictory aspects of them as false, if not the principle of convenience? A serious investigation of the Norse gods as aliens must explain and account for such discrepancies in a consistent way—not simply ignore or wish away a foundational flaw in the proposed idea. After all, if you wish to say Snorri was wrong in places because he was Christianizing and rationalizing myths, by what right can we assert he was right in other places without any other evidence in support of this? "


GOTO THE FIRST THREE COMMENTS... THIS IS WHY WE
GET "ALIEN MESSAGES" IN LIEU OF A GREAT FLOOD...

Gunn04/13/2013 11:33am
Okay, I don't see how it was possible for you to have done all of this in-depth analysis so rapidly. Do you have someone working with you, for you? Just curious.

I watched last night (yes, with popcorn) and it really was pretty funny. I enjoyed your analysis, but I wonder what you were thinking a bit more precisely when you included this commentary fragment:

"...a cult of medieval American Templar heretics."

I honestly don't know exactly what you meant. Thanks.
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Jason Colavitolink04/13/2013 12:06pm
It's magic. No, I don't have anyone working with me. I do it all myself, though it helps to have a good working knowledge of ancient mythology.

The reference to the "American Templar heretics" refers to America Unearthed and Scott Wolter's imaginary group of medieval Templars living in America and worshipping a goddess in the Newport Tower. The sentence before listed both Ancient Aliens and America Unearthed, and the parallel structure required a counterpoint to the aliens to match up with America Unearthed.
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Gunn04/13/2013 2:57pm
Thanks for the clarification. You see that I dropped the Sinclair off my pen-name, and I'm ready to concede much about the Templar connection to the Kensington Runestone...that it is merely possible and not probable for there to be a connection.

However, one clarity still rings true in my shifting paradigm about the "stone document": It's plastered with Christian symbology, so because of this and the date, it's definately not pagan, or Viking.

In essence, it now looks to me like Swedish and other Scandinavian Christians (Northmen?) penetrated inland to MN in 1362, and likely without any Templar connection...but there is still the possibilty of Templars or Cistercians being involved in some way with this medieval exploration and attempted taking up of land.

I'm trying to sort through what's real and what isn't, but in the end it's still speculation except for what's true...and even that seems to be a guess a times."

IF ICELAND'S SNORRI STURLUSON IS CORRECT AND ALL
IS A VARIATION ON ANCESTOR WO

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Only Me
12/26/2014 05:16:23 am

No one cares.

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.
12/26/2014 01:22:34 pm

duckie... do care....

i'd be upset if you were on a jet downwind of the particles
from an intense Islandic volcano. eventually they will be
active again, and end an era as they once did before...

Only Me
12/26/2014 02:15:54 pm

I don't care. None of this pertinent to the article.

trickey dickey
12/26/2014 03:38:58 pm

gawd dammit.... the ufo reports of 2oo6 are like those
of 1956 and will be like those of 2o16 because over the last
70 almost years, since we set off our nukes, UFOs have
been consistant and constant. This blog and G.T's big
brainfreezes have an almost equal ratio of truth and falsehood,
Jason is wrong... and G.t & EvD are wrong but usually not
at the same time and on the same topic or thought. What we
don't know about the universe has a trillion to one ratio to
all that we think we know. we are creating labels right now
for the sapient beings we hopefully will eventually meet and
not get into a war with. we could be the Universe's pacifists,,,
or we are almost the most hostile species in the universe....

WEEBLY = BED OF PROCRUSTUS
12/25/2014 11:52:49 pm

IF ICELAND"s SNORRI STURLUSON IS CORRECT
AND ALL IS A VARIATION ON ANCESTOR WORSHIP
PRIOR TO THE ARRIVAL OF MONOTHEISM WITH ITs
ATTEMPTS TO PUT A TIDY TIME UNIT ON THE AGE OF
THE UNIVERSE, THEN MANY GODS AND GODDESSES
ARE YESTERYEAR's LONG DEAD NOBILITY OR ELITE.

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Wagner's bleek take on the Death of All Gods is often overly praised...
12/26/2014 12:11:19 am

Snorri Sturluson is a poet and a diplomat.

http://www.islit.is/en/promotion-and-translations/icelandic-literature/icelandic-titles/nr/894

"Óskar points out that in Snorri's time the Icelanders still shared a language with the rest of the Norse world. Snorri's education, his background and his excellent poetic skills were a passport to intimacy with Norwegian royalty: he became a court poet, and in due course a liege man to the king. Like many Icelanders before him, Snorri rose to influence on foreign ground armed with his poetry.

The book gives a clearer and more personal portrayal of Snorri than has been the case before. For instance, the author explores the dramas of his personal life, and his relationships with his wives, his concubines and his children.
Iceland's most violent century
The book is not only the story of Snorri, but also of his time, and the mindset of medieval Iceland. At the time when Snorri rose to prominence as Iceland's wealthiest chieftain, the country was caught up in the Sturlung Age (named after Snorri's clan, the Sturlungs), which has been called Iceland's most violent century. The nation was convulsed by bloody civil war, in which kinsmen took up arms against each other. Óskar Guðmundsson gives a clear account of the conflict, which would ultimately lead to Iceland submitting to the rule of the King of Norway, and the part played by Snorri in those events.

Snorri was remarkably diplomatic for a man of that bellicose time, when bloodshed and vengeance were taken for granted. Some of his contemporaries even called him a coward for his unwillingness to fight. Surprisingly, he rose to a position of power, authority and wealth without ever wielding a weapon himself.

The main source on Snorri's life is Sturlunga saga, an account of the Sturlung Age written down as it happened by members of the Sturlung clan. The saga reflects conventional medieval views on powerful men, and generally ridicules Snorri for his alleged cowardice. In his book Óskar addresses this bias, and the perception of Snorri by his contemporaries, in order to draw up as accurate a picture of Snorri as is possible so many centuries later."

ATHEISM MERELY METAPHYSICALLY MURDERS A HUMBLE
CREATOR BEING, MONOTHEISM CUTS INTO THE ROOT OF
ALL ANCESTOR WORSHIP. HENCE WHY THE WEST IS TOO
INTRUSIVE AS STEEL BLADES GIVE THEIR ADVANTAGES TO
THE FEW WHO ASSUME CONAN THE BARBARIAN IS THEIR
NEOLITHIC ANCESTOR AND ACT OUT THEIR TERRITORIAL
IMPULSES. GUNN IS CORRECT, JASON THEE OFTEN BEE
VERY "QUICK DRAW McGRAW" IN REVIEW MODE TOTALLY.

http://www.tv.com/shows/quick-draw-mcgraw/ <---- a classic

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Only Me
12/26/2014 05:18:10 am

Please stop posting.

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in the 1200s
12/26/2014 12:25:07 am

Thomas Aquinas dies in 1274

Snorri Sturluson dies in 1241

He lived more than 100 years before
the Bubonic Plague isolates Iceland
and Greenland. (so if KRS = 1362!!!)

The Gods & Goddesses by then are very "dead" if this
is put into succinct terms Richard Wagner the composer metaphysically would have comprehended if chatting
at a dinner party in a charming & delightful manner. My
point about Herr Leibniz is that he came damn close to
tracing George II's ancestors all the way back to Beowulf
and he wouldn't have been wrong. Stories became more
exaggerated over time, the insight Lucian of Samosata had!

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Only Me
12/26/2014 05:19:39 am

Your crap posting has really gotten out of hand.

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.
12/26/2014 01:32:55 pm

the Nazi response to old myths about a Ragnarok event
is to wage war on neighboring nation-states and do genocidal
psychotic things to decent people. Some blame Richard Wagner's operas for this, his End of the World pessimism where he almost
wishes for it to arrive fast. Y'all done brought up the Nazis.

i went indirect yet to the Mythic link older than Odin that almost
links back to Zeus and all bolts of lightning. Our mutual myths...
Ages end, ages begin. We are at a psychological cusp, yes...
The crux of this is how H2 lets Scott Wolter talk about all Sacred
Bees and Sacred but ancient Bee Keeping. If Industrialism is
given to reducing all Sacred professions to a mass produced
profane normalcy normal where there is no divine lore but a
bunch of near to identical consumer goods whose quality is
always below the individual gifts of each inspired artist, okaaay.
this explains humanity's decline. I admit i sound like K.Marx on
the lore of guilds and their medieval lore most guild-craft. We
are a decline, O Tempores, O mores. We have abandoned the
SACRED. We are brazen. We even eat TV dinners. We live.

Only Me
12/26/2014 02:16:56 pm

More unnecessary crap posting.

.
12/26/2014 03:22:00 pm

i miss Gunn

.
12/26/2014 03:22:44 pm

i miss Grunt

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thought experiment
12/26/2014 03:30:02 pm

if the Comments Section here functions like

a Harvard University debating society, and

we are very polite to each other for more than

3 to 6 months, "Grunt" could decloak from lurker

mode and then things would be more normalcy

normal, and the way they were. otherwise i am in

error and the widening gyre is a magus driven spiral.

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CAN WE EVER COMMUNICATE WITH THE VERY REAL E.T ALIENS?
12/26/2014 03:59:59 pm

our brains may make all verbal or linguistic communication an impossibility, mathematics offers only a slight promice of shared
concepts, ideas and understanding. it may be an impossibility
even if we and they are both alive and sapient. our lack of a
common reference point or ability to articulate out ideas hinders
us. the Human Genome Project traces us all back to a small
group of mutual ancestors some 70,ooo years ago. We do not
know how to talk to the Dolphins, despite our mammalian DNA
as an overlap set. G.T + EvD make the barriers sound as if they
do not exist. at best, this is a near to improbable question if U
look deep into Science for once rather than assuming our species
to be quite insane or tripping on LSD on a daily basis. Get real.

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EP
12/29/2014 10:18:24 am

I think .'s degenerate shitposting is insulting to everyone who may be trying to have serious conversations (or a bit of fun) - which is most people who post here.

It is also insulting to everyone who does not post here on the regular basis, but merely lurks. Indeed, it must discourage people from contributing, lest their contributions drown in the bottomless flood of .'s drivel.

Worst of all, . appears incapable of recognizing just how unwelcome this garbage truly is.

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IF...
12/29/2014 11:53:25 am

IF the Comments Section here functions like a Harvard University debating society, and we are very polite to each other for more than 3 to 6 months, then things will be more normalcy normal, i.e the way
they were. otherwise i am in error inside the widening gyre that
happens each time things be said about Scott Wolter 4 good or ill!

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EP
12/29/2014 12:00:18 pm

If they were more like Harvard University, you'd have been escorted off campus by police a long time ago and had a restraining order put in place to keep you from coming back.

Sweet Sticky Rainbows link
1/5/2015 04:20:53 am

Thank God nobody actually understands real aliens. If we did, we would dig a giant hole, jump in, cover ourselves and hope like hell that we would never be noticed.

Is we are lucky aliens would be so unspeakably alien in their thoughts and actions they would no no effect on us and no interests in us.

The worst thing in the world would be if aliens took notice of us. On a good day we could be besieged by a decapitated alien's rainbow corpse or something worse.

On a bad day they might decide that they like our bones but they don't like the rest of us. Oh dear, this isn't going to end well.

And then there are the aliens that would live quite happily in a thermal vent. You know, boiling water and sulfuric acid? Okay somehow, we manage to communicate anyway but either of us would die instantly if exposed to an environment that is livable for the other. What is it that we are going to discuss? Suppose they deliver the happy news that they managed to eat all their young this brooding season. Not even one of the little buggers escaped this time! Now what do you say?


And energy beings. Let's hope they really don't notice he fleshies.





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Gil Carlson link
1/6/2015 05:14:34 am

The BLUE PLANET PROJECT book has some interesting illustrations of different types of aliens. It is also claimed that they were smuggled out by a government scientist working on top secret projects with aliens. Could they be real?
http://www.blue-planet-project.com/

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MH
5/25/2017 09:29:55 pm

At around 8 minutes David Childress makes a statement about binary; "It's basically proven that this kind of mathematical binary code is what's going to drive all computers in the future". I lol'd to the power of greyskull.

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Dean Cane
4/10/2018 02:12:32 am

It's a shame Mr. Colavito has no life that he has so much time to "debunk" an entertainment show. We are treated to such amazing observations such as the band of holes are more likely a bad representation of a "snake" than something strange or unexplained.

Bravo Mr. Genius. I'm totally convinced that because a show designed to sell advertising and entertain (something it does VERY well) is just utter GARBAGE because it takes liberties to make a more interesting story. Well hell, we should throw out most of history because primitives believed in crazy things like alchemy while we're at it. But things like "dark matter" are an undeniable fact despite the fact it was invented to explain discrepancies in gravitational theory. Band-Aid the math when it doesn't work as expected (like quantum physics when married to classical Einstein. Oops. Infinity. That's ok. Just make up a fracking kludge to explain it like Dark Energy does to explain why galaxies are accelerating away from each other which also contradicts previous theory with gravity.

But find pyramids all over the earth and walls that fit perfectly like jig saw puzzles without mortar and it's just human know-how even though it's highly doubtful we could produce many of these sites today even with modern tech. No no. Let's bitch about misrepresenting binary and other things to obfuscate the fact we don't really know jack shit about many of these sites, but we will pretend we do by picking apart details on a TV show to appear more knowledgable than we are.

Sorry Mr. Colavito, but you're a fracking arsehole and NOTHING can change that fact. When the day finally comes that proves conclusively that a far more advanced culture existed than our pitiful history accounts for, you can kiss my arse you close-minded dick.

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    • James Dean's Cursed Porsche
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          • Babylonian Creation Myth
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          • Berossus
          • Comparison of Antediluvian Histories
        • Egyptian Texts >
          • The Shipwrecked Sailor
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          • The Papyrus of Ani
          • Classical Accounts of the Pyramids
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          • Leon of Pella
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        • Hermetica >
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        • Eusebius' Chronicle
        • Chinese Accounts of Rome
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        • Annianus on the Watchers
        • The Watchers and Antediluvian Wisdom
      • Medieval Texts >
        • Medieval Legends of Ancient Egypt >
          • Medieval Pyramid Lore
          • John Malalas on Ancient Egypt
          • Fragments of Abenephius
          • Akhbar al-zaman
          • Ibrahim ibn Wasif Shah
          • Murtada ibn al-‘Afif
          • Al-Maqrizi on the Pyramids
          • Al-Suyuti on the Pyramids
        • The Hunt for Noah's Ark
        • Isidore of Seville
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        • Book of Thousands
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        • Travels of Sir John Mandeville
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        • Al-Biruni on the Great Flood
        • Voyage of the Zeno Brothers
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        • The Aztec Creation Myth
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        • Atlantis >
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          • Atlantis in Morocco
          • Atlantis and the Sea Peoples
          • W. Scott-Elliot >
            • The Story of Atlantis
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          • How I Found Atlantis (Hoax)
          • Termier on Atlantis
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          • Further Responses to Termier
          • Flinders Petrie on Atlantis
        • Lost Cities >
          • Miscellaneous Lost Cities
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        • Against Diffusionism
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      • Religious Conspiracies >
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        • The Many Wives of Jesus
        • Templar Infiltration of Labor
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        • On the Person of Jesus Christ
      • Giants in the Earth >
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          • Fossil Elephants
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          • Fossils and the Supernatural
          • Fossils, Myth, and Pseudo-History
          • Man During the Stone Age
          • Fossil Bones and Giants
          • American Elephant Myths
          • The Mammoth and the Flood
          • Fossils and Myth
          • Fossil Origin of the Cyclops
          • Mastodon, Mammoth, and Man
        • Fragments on Giants
        • Manichaean Book of Giants
        • Geoffrey on British Giants
        • Alfonso X's Hermetic History of Giants
        • Boccaccio and the Fossil 'Giant'
        • Book of Howth
        • Purchas His Pilgrimage
        • Edmond Temple's 1827 Giant Investigation
        • The Giants of Sardinia
        • Giants and the Sons of God
        • The Magnetism of Evil
        • Tertiary Giants
        • Smithsonian Giant Reports
        • Early American Giants
        • The Giant of Coahuila
        • Jewish Encyclopedia on Giants
        • Index of Giants
        • Newspaper Accounts of Giants
        • Lanier's A Book of Giants
      • Science and History >
        • Halley on Noah's Comet
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        • The Deluge
        • Crown Prince Rudolf on the Pyramids
        • Old Mythology in New Apparel
        • Blavatsky on Dinosaurs
        • Teddy Roosevelt on Bigfoot
        • Devil Worship in France
        • Maspero's Review of Akhbar al-zaman
        • The Holy Grail as Lucifer's Crown Jewel
        • The Mutinous Sea
        • The Rock Wall of Rockwall
        • Fabulous Zoology
        • The Origins of Talos
        • Mexican Mythology
        • Chinese Pyramids
        • Maqrizi's Names of the Pharaohs
      • Extreme History >
        • Roman Empire Hoax
        • American Antiquities
        • American Cataclysms
        • England, the Remnant of Judah
        • Historical Chronology of the Mexicans
        • Maspero on the Predynastic Sphinx
        • Vestiges of the Mayas
        • Ragnarok: The Age of Fire and Gravel
        • Origins of the Egyptian People
        • The Secret Doctrine >
          • Volume 1: Cosmogenesis
          • Volume 2: Anthropogenesis
        • Phoenicians in America
        • The Electric Ark
        • Traces of European Influence
        • Prince Henry Sinclair
        • Pyramid Prophecies
        • Templars of Ancient Mexico
        • Chronology and the "Riddle of the Sphinx"
        • The Faith of Ancient Egypt
        • Spirit of the Hour in Archaeology
        • Book of the Damned
        • Great Pyramid As Noah's Ark
        • Richard Shaver's Proofs
    • Alien Encounters >
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        • Fortean Society and Columbus
        • Inquiry into Shaver and Palmer
        • The Skyfort Document
        • Whirling Wheels
        • Denver Ancient Astronaut Lecture
        • Soviet Search for Lemuria
        • Visitors from Outer Space
        • Unidentified Flying Objects (Abstract)
        • "Flying Saucers"? They're a Myth
        • UFO Hypothesis Survival Questions
        • Air Force Academy UFO Textbook
        • The Condon Report on Ancient Astronauts
        • Atlantis Discovery Telegrams
        • Ancient Astronaut Society Telegram
        • Noah's Ark Cables
        • The Von Daniken Letter
        • CIA Psychic Probe of Ancient Mars
        • Scott Wolter Lawsuit
        • UFOs in Ancient China
        • CIA Report on Noah's Ark
        • CIA Noah's Ark Memos
        • Congressional Ancient Aliens Testimony
        • Ancient Astronaut and Nibiru Email
        • Congressional Ancient Mars Hearing
        • House UFO Hearing
      • Ancient Extraterrestrials >
        • Premodern UFO Sightings
        • The Moon Hoax
        • Inhabitants of Other Planets
        • Blavatsky on Ancient Astronauts
        • The Stanzas of Dzyan (Hoax)
        • Aerolites and Religion
        • What Is Theosophy?
        • Plane of Ether
        • The Adepts from Venus
      • A Message from Mars
      • Saucer Mystery Solved?
      • Orville Wright on UFOs
      • Interdimensional Flying Saucers
      • Flying Saucers Are Real
      • Report on UFOs
    • The Supernatural >
      • The Devils of Loudun
      • Sublime and Beautiful
      • Voltaire on Vampires
      • Demonology and Witchcraft
      • Thaumaturgia
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      • Religion and Evolution
      • Transylvanian Superstitions
      • Defining a Zombie
      • Dread of the Supernatural
      • Vampires
      • Werewolves and Vampires and Ghouls
      • Science and Fairy Stories
      • The Cursed Car
    • Classic Fiction >
      • Lucian's True History
      • Some Words with a Mummy
      • The Coming Race
      • King Solomon's Mines
      • An Inhabitant of Carcosa
      • The Xipéhuz
      • Lot No. 249
      • The Novel of the Black Seal
      • The Island of Doctor Moreau
      • Pharaoh's Curse
      • Edison's Conquest of Mars
      • The Lost Continent
      • Count Magnus
      • The Mysterious Stranger
      • The Wendigo
      • Sredni Vashtar
      • The Lost World
      • The Red One
      • H. P. Lovecraft >
        • Dagon
        • The Call of Cthulhu
        • History of the Necronomicon
        • At the Mountains of Madness
        • Lovecraft's Library in 1932
      • The Skeptical Poltergeist
      • The Corpse on the Grating
      • The Second Satellite
      • Queen of the Black Coast
      • A Martian Odyssey
    • Classic Genre Movies
    • Miscellaneous Documents >
      • The Balloon-Hoax
      • A Problem in Greek Ethics
      • The Migration of Symbols
      • The Gospel of Intensity
      • De Profundis
      • The Life and Death of Crown Prince Rudolf
      • The Bathtub Hoax
      • Crown Prince Rudolf's Letters
      • Position of Viking Women
      • Employment of Homosexuals
      • James Dean's Scrapbook
      • James Dean's Love Letters
      • The Amazing James Dean Hoax!
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