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Review of Ancient Aliens S08E06 "The Other Earth"

8/28/2015

23 Comments

 
Tonight’s episode of Ancient Aliens, S08E05 “The Other Earth,” wasn’t of too much interest to me since it’s mostly about the question of how many other planets have Earthlike characteristics. If you are an ancient astronaut theorist and already believe humanoid aliens have visited the Earth, the answer is pretty clear that such planets exist and are the home of aliens. Our knowledge of them is of secondary concern. Since I am not a space enthusiast, I had still less interest in the science of looking for other planets that the laws of physics dictate I will never visit.

Oh, and my computer died just before this episode came on, with Windows 8 choosing this evening to have some catastrophic failure that left it unstable, so I am writing this on a borrowed laptop while I am trying to fix my own laptop with only 48 hours left on its Dell warranty. As a result, my comments will likely be briefer than usual.
Segment 1
We open on July 23, 2015, when the Kepler Telescope helped identify an Earthlike planet many light years from earth. This leads to a discussion of what makes for a planet capable of sustaining intelligent life similar to that of the Earth. Scientists apparently feel we will find proof of alien life by 2025, which this show seems not to notice contradicts its own prior claims that elites are so concerned about the panic confirmation of alien life would create that they have suppressed all evidence of aliens. The show briefly mentions the ancient “many worlds” hypothesis and then discusses the Drake Equation, which was a guess at how many civilizations might exist in the universe. It was a favorite of early ancient astronaut theorists in the 1960s. The show wonders then why we have received no radio transmissions from the space aliens. Giorgio Tsoukalos tells us that the aliens don’t need radio signals because they have already given us communications through mythology and art. This leads to a recap of some of the ancient astronaut theory’s greatest hits, all discussed before and long debunked. This includes the Orion Correlation Theory, the Sirius Mystery, and more.

The show then falls back on Zecharia Sitchin’s false claims about BA 243, a Mesopotamian cylinder seal that Sitchin (and now Jason Martell) claimed accurately depicted the solar system. It does not, either in distance, number of planets, or relative size. 
Segment 2
The second segment is about the potential for humans to colonize Mars, including the current effort to train a squad of humans to go die on Mars as a first step toward colonization. This leads to a discussion of whether Mars can be terraformed into something wet and green. This is irrelevant to ancient astronauts, so the show tries to make it relevant by speculating that aliens terraformed the earth. Mike Bara thinks it’s astonishing that Earth got “exactly what it needed” to support human life, though logically speaking it is more like that it only seems that way because we evolved to think these conditions ideal. Bara tells us about round stones that have grooves on them. These ancient rocks are believed to be natural, but Bara tells us that they may really be pods used for panspermia, packed full of bacteria and sent to the earth. No one looks for any evidence that these rocks came from space, which might support such a claim.
Segment 3
The third segment begins with the Sumerian Kish Tablet from 3500 BCE, the oldest known piece of writing. This is introduced only to show how far human came between then and our own technological age. Astrobiologists express awe at our intelligence compared to our physical incompetence and general helplessness in matters aside from intelligence. The show discusses Ellis Silver’s suggestion that human beings evolved on another planet, which he believes explains why we have lower back pain, cataracts, and sunburns. Allegedly our circadian rhythms exactly match the length of a Martian day when we don’t have the sun to guide us. David Childress throws this out the window and instead claims humans are Neanderthal-Grey alien hybrids.

After this, the show supports the claim that Adam and Eve were real, but they mention Jewish legends that Adam and Eve had parents in another realm before falling to earth after eating of the fruit. This story is found in the Zohar, and I found it in the Akhbar al-zaman, too. The narrator tells us that humans are interested in space because we come from space, because apparently cosmic wanderlust is genetic.
Segment 4
The fourth segment begins with a discussion of humanity’s search for other planets with various tools and telescopes, which is said to be a search for transcendence and/or a genetic compulsion to visit the stars. David Childress compares finding other planets to finding the Garden of Eden, and he says Eden might well have been on another planet. Various mythical paradises are alleged to be other planets remembered from journeys space aliens made from them to the Earth, which, if I understand the narrator correctly, is a shithole. The famous story of the Green Children of Woolpit is then told, a medieval legend that is colorful (pun intended) but not especially unusual for medieval legends. Kathleen McGowan Coppens tells us that the children were space aliens, even though the girl child allegedly had viable offspring with a human male. Many other possible explanations could be offered, and space aliens are probably one of the least likely.
Segment 5
The fifth segment discusses the claim that there is a very large quantity of water locked within the Earth’s mantle. The show asks if this means we are wrong about the interior of the Earth. Can the Earth really be hollow? Do aliens come from the Hollow Earth? Has the show been reading the Shaver Mystery? To the last question, we know the answer: They referred to the Shaver Mystery in an earlier episode. Various mythical underworlds are repurposed to support a hollow Earth, and we hear that the Garden of Eden is within the earth from “secret” teachings. I can’t recall an ancient text that says this, though I’ve read many that discuss Eden as being in one of the spheres above the Earth. The history of hollow Earth hypotheses is then discussed, though they neglect to note that John Quincy Adams once tried to send an expedition to enter it. More modern searches are reported, but they then discuss a fictitious claim that Admiral Byrd found the entrance. These claims are false and come entirely from sensationalized newspaper accounts. Childress has been pushing this claim for a while, though previously with subterranean Nazis rather than underground aliens.
Segment 6
The final segment takes us to a physics lab in Lively, Ontario, where scientists are looking for dark matter. Its various proposed properties are discussed, including the question of whether it connects to parallel universes or higher dimensions. David Wilcock says that this dark matter is a “world” and that “people” live in it. The narrator tries to make this make sense by proposing a planet floating in a parallel universe and/or other dimension that communicates with ours through dark matter. William Henry says this is a great thing because it would prove we are part of a cosmic family. Tsoukalos tells us that finding intelligent life would force scientists to reconsider the ancient astronaut theory.

23 Comments
Jim
8/29/2015 02:34:53 am

Jason- ditch the Dell and get a Mac. Liberate yourself from send-rate hardware and a mediocre OS filled with compromise.

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Jim
8/29/2015 02:36:11 am

Correction: send-rate should be second rate.

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phillip
8/29/2015 03:14:49 am

"Tsoukalos tells us that finding intelligent life would force scientists to reconsider the ancient astronaut theory."

No it would not.

I have to agree with Jim as well, Ive had a Mac since 1999, and the same Mac since 2006. Extremely reliable machine.

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Scarecrow
8/29/2015 04:45:59 am

Life is a one-off accident that only exists on planet earth and nowhere else in the universe.

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Only Me
8/29/2015 05:49:44 am

That depends on your definition of life. If you count bacterial microbes as life, and it can be proven they are capable of traveling on asteroids or comets, then your assertion is false.

I suppose one would have to look at the mathematical probability of life existing on Earth and then the likelihood that probability might have been repeated on other Earth-like planets.

Shane Sullivan
8/29/2015 06:02:43 am

"If you count bacterial microbes as life, and it can be proven they are capable of traveling on asteroids or comets, then your assertion is false."

Forget about microbes, the International Space Station proves that life doesn't only exist on this planet. =P

Uncle Ron
8/29/2015 07:46:27 am

Statistically it is virtually impossible that life, even intelligent life, does NOT exist elsewhere in the universe, even in our own galaxy.

There are many images from the Hubble telescope that appear, at first glance, to be a starry night sky as seen from earth; actually each "star" is an entire galaxy like our Milky Way. Once you fully understand what these images represent it is foolish to make any statement about what might be out there. We'll never visit them but that's not the point.

Scarecrow
8/29/2015 08:44:09 am

>>the International Space Station proves that life doesn't only exist on this planet<<

Opinion. Not verifiable fact.

V
8/29/2015 11:34:25 am

This is an entirely asinine statement to claim as fact. Our sample size is far too small to make such a definitive statement. We have yet to directly see a planet outside our own solar system--we've only located them indirectly by watching their stars--so life could be exceptionally common and we would never know it, at this point. It could be exceptionally rare and we be the only one in the entire visible universe. With a sample size of ONE solar system, ONE planet within that system, it is quite literally impossible to say one way or another, no matter what theories are out there.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, and there is no evidence that points to a more likely conclusion, either--there is no evidence that leads to ANY conclusion on the matter of life existing on planets outside our solar system, so making one is not only asinine, it's ignorant and full of hubris, too.

Jamie Eckles link
8/30/2015 07:53:11 am

We have, in fact, directly imaged planets around other stars. If I'm not mistaken the very first was imaged in 2008. More have been imaged since:
http://www.space.com/6108-major-breakthrough-photos-planets-stars.html

V
8/30/2015 11:11:06 am

I stand corrected, Jamie. There are in fact twenty tiny dots on digital images that are outside our solar system. Still doesn't invalidate the point that we have not had a good enough look to prove that Earth is the only planet with life in the universe, though.

Jamie Eckles link
8/30/2015 12:10:20 pm

I look at all the billions of stars in billions of galaxies and find it beyond reason to claim that we are the only intelligent life in the universe, let along life in general. As Sagan once quoted Thomas Carlyle: "A sad spectacle. If they be inhabited, what a scope for misery and folly. If they be not inhabited, what a waste of space."

Shane Sullivan
8/29/2015 06:01:18 am

That Jason Martell has a lot of nerve (read: ignorance), saying something to the effect of, "before Copernicus and Kepler, nobody knew that the Earth orbited the Sun", thus spitting on the memory of poor Aristarchus of Samos.

Good luck with your computer, by the way.

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Kal
8/29/2015 06:03:05 am

Kepler, which has since stopped, has found many planets within the 'habitable zone'. not neceissarily Earth like, but in the zone where such planets might form. We cannot directly image planets. The telescope used the dip in light to see if planets transit stars, from our angle in space, perspective, but cannot see details, chemical makeup, or if it is actually earth like.

The hollow earth is a stupid idea.

If Eden existed it was located in what it now the foot of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers. It could be as some have speculated, a memory of something else passed on from a different story, even going back to ice age water levels rising to present day, but that is a long time.

The weird Martian theory is just that, a weird theory, and the plot of a bad movie in the 1990s. Mars had water so long ago that any life on Earth would have been microbial, so who sent the microbes? The asteroid that had the martian stuff in it was not panspermia. That's is different. That rock was more modern.

Mars probably does have microbes deep under the permafrost, but they are not able to communicate and to launch asteroids. That would be a Buck Rodgers story, and the plot of a cheesy movie called Starship Troopers.

Aliens probably don't use radio as it would be very unreliable for interstellar travel. This does not mean the fringe theory is right either. It is not.

The habitable zone is merely the area in an orbit where liquid water can exist, not that it does, but it can.

Ancient people did not have measurements of where planets and stars are. All of theirs are by sight. They did not have telescopes. By sight, you can see a lot of stars and constellations, and make out about 5 planets. Usually though ancient man doubled up Venus and thought it was the morning and evening star, when it was one planet.

Other Earths have been the subject of science fiction stories since the dawn of the genre, including theories on other dystopian worlds, allegory about then current cold wars, seeding Earth with life, invasion from space, and whatnot.



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V
8/29/2015 11:46:35 am

Corrections: there are many places that could have been "Eden," but ultimately the literary Eden of the Torah is a metaphysical construct that concatenates multiple locations into its physical descriptions.

Radio is not "very unreliable," but for interstellar travel it is simply too SLOW to be useful. (Radio is actually the most reliable way to convey a long-distance signal, through a vast array of conditions. That doesn't mean it's infallible, but it extremely, exceptionally reliable.) Radio only works at the speed of light, since radio is, in fact, part of that electromagnetic spectrum, and if you are an interstellar traveler, you need something that can travel faster, unless we're talking "generation ship" technology.

The habitable zone is not "an area in an orbit," it is the range of distances from a given star in which a planet could have an orbit that would allow it to have liquid water on its surface. The zone exists whether anything orbits in that zone or not, and liquid water can exist NOT on the surface in a far greater range than generally considered "habitable."

Ancient man didn't "double up" on definitions, the definitions of "star" and "planet" weren't the same then as they are now. It's important to note largely because it is definitive proof that ancient man DID NOT know what we know today.

"Other Earths" have been the subject of mythology for far longer than science fiction or even science as a discipline have existed; the Norse mythology has the Nine Worlds, and Asian mythologies have from 2-4 alternate worlds, generally, some even described as "just like our world, but..."

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David Bradbury
8/29/2015 07:58:10 am

The dark-matter world idea reminds me of Bob Shaw's novel "A Wreath of Stars", which has somehow stuck in the back of my memory since I read it around 1980.

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Ronald W. Satz link
8/29/2015 12:04:57 pm

On the probabilities: There are approx. 300 billion galaxies in the universe. Let's assume that each has 200 billion stars and that one star out of a billion has a planet with intelligent life. This means that there would be 300 x 10^9 x 200 x 10^9 / 10^9 = 60000 billion intelligent civilizations! It's overwhelming and mind-boggling! Of course each is out the travel range of others....

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The Grim
8/29/2015 10:01:15 pm

Amazing I got my entire 6th grade class to hate this show now! They watched Debunked and read these reviews! Now they are passing that knowledge on to their friends and families!
They know this show is the biggest piece of crap there is!

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Dave
8/31/2015 02:28:56 am

Now that is good news, unlike Jason's computer.

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CHF01
9/2/2015 10:08:59 am

Many of the AA "theories" are subject to criticism, without a doubt. They flip flop on ideas and forget what they say, conveniently. However, there are some moments that I think should make a young person wonder. Goblekli Tepe in Turley for instance, underwater structures and the moving of multi-ton stones. .
The research of geologist Dr. Robert Schoch shouldn't be ignored either.

Putting your personal feelings for the AA crew aside for a moment and simply focusing on the physical evidence of ancient sites on our world is pretty amazing. An entire race of being(s) may have dwelled here, WAAAY before us and prior to the Ice Age. that's important stuff, IMO.

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Tony
8/30/2015 09:14:44 am

"The show discusses Ellis Silver’s suggestion that human beings evolved on another planet, which he believes explains why we have lower back pain, cataracts, and sunburns."

And my chilblains, which only appear during cold months, are conclusive evidence that our ancestors arrived from Pluto or perhaps from somewhere else in the Kuiper belt.

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Kal
8/30/2015 02:04:49 pm

The habitable zone of a star is the distance from said star whom where liquid water may exist on the surface of a hypothetical planet located there. In the Solar system, the middle range of this distance is 1 AU, about where Earth is. Our yellow sun and others like it could have terrestrial life bearing planets.

The Bible doubled up the planet Venus. The morning star and the evening star are mentioned as though they are different celestial things, when they are the same planet.

The 'planets' and 'stars' were indeed thought of differently before astronomy, and were more like what we call astrology, and they assumed these heavenly bodies did something to humans, which they do not. Only the Moon and Sun influence us directly.

The show's quip about the Martian day being like ours is wrong. The Mars year is about 2 years. They are confusing the orbit, rotation and period of seasons. Mars is also tilted a bit, but it is not literally like Earth. Obviously.

The story does seem like a lot of 1970s and 1980s novels. :)

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9/2/2015 11:15:56 am

https://www.facebook.com/mikel.hanson1/posts/10153578561989874?pnref=story

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