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Review of Ancient Aliens S13E08 "Island of the Giants"

7/27/2018

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​Since the days of the Roman Republic, the island of Sardinia has been stereotyped as the home of bumpkins and rubes, and there is an ​almost equally long tradition of Sardinians trying to fight back against the misperception by imagining a far greater history for their island than its already impressive ancient past presents. So, too, have many European scholars fallen for the efforts to reimagine Sardinia as a land significant both the Classical and Biblical civilizations. Although virtually unknown in the English-speaking world until 1849, the since the days of Delisle de Salles in the eighteenth century, and continuing today, there has been a school of thought arguing that the impressive Bronze Age ruins of Sardinia were those of Atlantis, which Italian writers from the nineteenth century to the present have imagined them the work of the biblical Nephilim. More specifically, the argument ran that the defeated Canaanites, descendants of the Nephilim, escaped to Sardinia where they rebuilt their civilization. You can read the longest English account of the Italian theory, from 1849, here.
​Nearly five years ago, the British series Forbidden History devoted one of its first episodes to the “mystery” of the giants of Sardinia, a claim I covered when the October 2013 episode was redubbed with an American narrator and broadcasted on U.S. television in 2015. As I noted, the argument that the Bronze Age nuraghe towers of Sardinia were the work of giants is laughable, if for no other reason than the fact that their interiors are scaled to normal human sizes.
 
In this episode, Ancient Aliens covers the same material as Forbidden History five years ago, and it returns us to a time before 1849, when legends about giants weren’t just the colorful folklore of Sardinia’s actual country bumpkins but was a widely shared cultural myth designed to foster ethnic pride in the face of encroaching assimilation from the mainland.
 
And to do so, the producers of Ancient Aliens at Prometheus Entertainment finally collapse their two most profitable franchises into a shared universe of pseudohistorical fantasy by bringing in Curse of Oak Island treasure hunter Marty Lagina to join ancient astronaut theorist Giorgio Tsoukalos in gawking at the Bronze Age ruins of Sardinia and speculating about bible giants. Some might call this a clash of the titans, but more accurately, it’s a cross-promotional stunt designed to boost each franchise’s ratings by exposing its viewers to the other. But more important is the appearance of Evangelical Christian Nephilim hunter Timothy Alberino, who recently claimed that the Nephilim took a spaceship to another planet to escape the destruction of Atlantis, but who is better known for his extremist Christian views working together with anti-gay, anti-liberal Evangelical nut-job Steve Quayle, a frequent InfoWars guest. This is sad, but not surprising. It all comes together in the end. Quayle, of course, uses the Nephilim to justify extremist conservative positions, and Alberino follows him in that.

Last week, in the New York Times, Ancient Aliens executive producer Kevin Burns said that the show was not actually about aliens but instead “It’s really a show about looking for God.” And we go looking with angry, paranoid hate preachers and their associates. Cool. Good to know where you stand.
​Segment 1
The first segment opens with Tsoukalos, dressed in his hippie Indiana Jones field uniform, and Lagina, wearing a polo shirt promoting his winery (dollar dollar bills, y’all!), meeting together in Sardinia to discuss giants, and Tsoukalos wistfully recalls an episode of his old series, In Search of Aliens, in which he previously sought giants and failed to find them. We view the statues created by the Nuragic civilization of Bronze Age Sardinia, and the show compares the statues to robots because they have highly stylized faces with large round eyes. They resemble the malfunctioning robot from an early episode of Scooby-Doo Where Are You? (S01E08) and Albertino jumps in to allege that the statues are proof that archaeology cannot explain the history of Sardinia. These statues are called “giants,” but they are not actually gigantic. Our heroes stand next to them, and they are the same height.
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Nuragic "giant" statue form Sardinia.
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Charlie the Robot from "Scooby-Doo."
The show claims that the Nuragic people are from Sumer and that the giants are the Anunnaki, which the narrator wrongly identifies as “winged giants,” something that is not supported by the ancient texts. Jason Martell confuses the artistic convention known as hieratic scale—meaning more important figures are drawn larger—for proof that the Sumerian gods were literal giants.
​Segment 2
The second segment begins by discussing the myth of the Cyclopes and the ancient Greek belief, recorded by Pausanias (2.16.5 and 2.25.8), that Bronze Age ruins had been built by the Cyclopes in the Heroic Age. The men then go to visit Bronze Age tombs in Sardinia that modern legend attributes to the giants, and Alberino claims that the tombs were placed atop the actual graves of giants, which is why excavators have yet to find their bones. Tsoukalos wonders if all of the myths of giants around the world refer to the same beings. Probably not; giants, like dwarves, are a pretty universal myth and one of the most basic storytelling conventions—make something bigger or smaller than life. Lagina’s only contribution is to say “enough talking” to Tsoukalos.
 
Alberino claims that the tombs of the giants were transformation chambers meant “for the rite of incubation,” which he claims involves sleeping in a crypt to absorb the power of the dead. As the etymology of the word—the “cub” refers to lying down—implies, incubation was actually an ancient practice, widespread in the Greco-Roman world, of sleeping in a sacred place to receive a prophetic dream from a god or hero. Perhaps Alberino would find it upsetting to learn that the early Christians took over the practice and used it themselves, on the authority of 1 Kings 3, where Solomon practices it.
​Segment 3
The third segment sends Tsoukalos and Lagina to examine large carved stones, one of which features what a guide claims is an upside-down person passing through a portal to another dimension, and which Tsoukalos identifies as a Watcher from the Book of Enoch. Weirdly, since this is such an important part of the ancient astronaut mythology, the narrator wrongly claims that the story of the Watchers is found not just in the Book of Enoch but in the Bible, in the Book of Daniel, including the fall of the angels and their sins on Earth. While this story is found in the Book of Enoch, Daniel mentions only the Watchers as a group of angels, with no story attached. I am uncomfortable with the show trying to fool audiences into believing that the Enochian narrative (1 Enoch 1-9) of the sins of the fallen angels and their provisioning of knowledge to humanity is somehow canonical. It is an expansion of Genesis 6:1-4, but it goes far beyond the scant biblical passage, which never calls the Sons of God either angels or Watchers. Why lie about that? Worse, the show claims, without either biblical or Enochian sanction, that the Watchers themselves were giants, not just their children, which must either be news to the human women they mated with, or else was very painful for them.
 
Tsoukalos doesn’t care about details, and instead he compares an ancient stone platform on Sardinia to platform pyramids around the world, as though raised square platforms could look all that different. Martell alleges, following his idol, Zecharia Sitchin, that the platforms were loading docks for passing UFOs, which had the technology to traverse the stars but couldn’t take off or land without crumbly piles of mud and stone to sit on.
​Segment 4
In the fourth segment, Tsoukalos and Lagina visit a Sardinian stone circle and its beautifully constructed underground well from around 1800 BCE, and I sighed when the narrator falsely alleged that archaeologists view Bronze Age civilization as made up of “so-called primitive people” and therefore “struggled to explain” how these savages could cut blocks into regular rectangles and stack them neatly. The well was built to observe the so-called “lunar standstill,” a period when the moon appears not to move for several hours, with the idea that at that moment the moon would be reflected in the well’s subterranean water through a skylight. Tsoukalos claims that aliens had to give the Sardinians mathematical knowledge or else they could never have stacked stones or observed the moon. Who, exactly, really thinks that the Sardinians were “primitive”?
 
This, sadly, leads to yet another discussion of the Nephilim, and Hugh Newman claims, presumably through confusion with the Watchers in the Book of Enoch, that the Nephilim studied astronomy and the sciences and taught them to humanity. The Nephilim were bloodthirsty cannibals in the Book of Enoch, so the Watchers must be meant. David Childress states that he believes that Sardinia was a “special refuge” where the Nephilim escaped from Noah’s Flood and found safety. The narrator notes that this contradicts the Biblical claim that all terrestrial life ended in the Flood save that of Noah and his Ark, but the show wants to have its cake and eat it, too, so the Bible is both true and false at the same time, right in the essentials, but revisable where needed to create more drama.
​Segment 5
In the fifth segment, Alberino alleges that it isn’t possible to build stone towers while also actively farming the land and “defending yourself.” He has a painfully narrow view of human achievement, and doesn’t seem aware that farming has an off season, which has traditionally been the time when farmers engaged in building and other non-farming activities.
 
An allegation that seven nuraghe towers imitate the Pleiades (even though the photo comparison they make does not align) leads the show to conclude that the Anunnaki and the Watchers are the same creatures, that they are aliens from the Pleiades, and that they either laid out the nuraghe or explained how to do it to the Sardinians. The narrator tells us that the Sardinians are evil Bible giants, the Nephilim, and repeats the allegation that the evil giants survived the Flood—an event that the show no longer, after all these years, even bothers to pretend to pay lip service to questioning, despite the fact that hundreds of years of research have found exactly no evidence that it ever happened. This is now the Hour of Power if the Crystal Cathedral were replaced with a spaceport. I am fascinated that in its dotage the producers are no longer shy about baring the show’s Christian underpinnings or openly advocating for a literal reading of the Bible. What’s even more fascinating is that Tsoukalos is still working on a completely different show, and his old-fashioned, aww-shucks nuts-and-bolts ufology commentary is in tension with the producers’ Gnosticism-meets-Christian-fundamentalism framework.
​Segment 6
In the sixth segment, Tsoukalos claims that “some type of censorship is going on” because “a guy” who was going to show Tsoukalos and Lagina a bone allegedly belonging to a giant “pulled out” before filming could take place. It couldn’t be that the “guy” was pulling their leg, or that the bone wasn’t what it was represented to be, could it? Lagina asks Tsoukalos about ancient aliens, and Tsoukalos tells him that the aliens were the real teachers of the Sardinians. “I respect that immensely,” Lagina said, and he wrongly calls Tsoukalos’s speculation “scientific” because “I can’t prove you wrong.” That is pretty much the exact opposite of science. Lagina offers a milquetoast conclusion saying that he is not convinced by the ancient astronaut theory but won’t dismiss it either. I wish he would go back to Oak Island and stay there, where I can safely ignore him.
 
Finally, I want to point out that since Ancient Aliens returned from its summer hiatus, David Wilcock has been notably absent from the program. Is it possible that his right-wing rants, promotion of discredited Pizzagate conspiracy theories, outspoken love of Trump and Russia, and anti-Semitic claims about the Rothschilds trying to kill him finally make him too toxic for a show that happily features Timothy Alberino, a man who claims that the liberal “technocratic elite” are literally in league with Satan?
58 Comments
G. G.
7/28/2018 03:12:15 am

Cheese-and-Rice, Jason.

You’ve definitely driven me to watch it, which I’m about to go do.

But, God, get an editor, if that sort of thing is going to keep up.

You okay?

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G. G,
7/28/2018 03:21:19 am

Oh man,

Dying of laughter 41 seconds in. No! There’s no way humans could’ve stacked rocks like that!

Can’t wait for the next 41 seconds of this program...

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G. Glas.
7/28/2018 03:34:50 am

Jason?

41 minutes in and I feel like A&E is trying to rape my butt/wallet worse than Universal City Walk.

You are correct on all levels.

Glad again I came here.

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A Buddhist
7/28/2018 07:51:23 am

"the Bible is both true and false at the same time, right in the essentials, but revisable where needed to create more drama."

Replace this with "the Bible is both true and false at the same time, right in the essentials, but revisable where needed to create more converts/control" and you have modern Christian theology. See, for example, Dr. Michael Heiser, who acknowledges that the Bible is full of scientific errors (including a flat Earth) yet insists that it, being inspired by YHVH, should be a guide to all humans, who should become Christians.

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Leland Nelson
8/2/2018 09:49:24 pm

Dr Heiser is correct. He states that the Bible was never meant to be scientific. But it is inspired by God to show us our need for a Rescuer from our lostness and to led us to that Rescuer... Jesus the Messiah.

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HUGH'S POO
7/28/2018 08:22:38 am

AH_HA! MY AREA OF EXPERTISE!

TALKING OF GIANTS... I SQUEEZED OUT A MALTESE TEMPLE BLOCK SIZED GLACIAL ERRATIC THIS MORNING;
STRAIGHT FROM TURDINIA.

(YOU CAN READ ALL ABOUT SUCH TOILET LEGENDS SUCH AS MINE IN THE BOOK OF POONOCH.)

& GUESS WHAT THAT' BEAUTIFULLY CONSTRUCTED STONE WELL', WAS REALLY USED FOR?
...EASY; FOR CYCLOPEAN TURDS OBVIOUSLY!

RIGHT, BETTER GO AND UNBLOCK THIS WELL I GUESS!

Telluric energies, giants, Stonehenge, etc, etc etc....

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Hai
7/29/2018 01:18:23 pm

Great post displaying the views of this hate blog. Jason loves such comments.

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HUGH'S POO
7/29/2018 03:33:27 pm

ER NO MISERY GUTS.....
I AM SHARING MT MANY TOILET EXPERIENCES AROUND THE GLOBE AT ANCIENT SITES.
NICE TRY AT DIVISION MEANIE.
PERHAPS YOU TOO NEED TO SQUEEZE ONE OUT TO CHEER YOURSELF UP?
MAY I RECOMMEND THE COOL HIDDEN CORNERS IN LOVELOCK CAVE?
GIANTS USED TO POO THERE TOO!

Doc Rock
7/29/2018 08:46:19 pm

Lovelock Cave is an excellent choice. Lot's of well-preserved tule bundles there.

Gl
7/29/2018 09:27:11 pm

Not often I laugh out loud reading and I like this crazy history stuff. Well done

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orang
7/28/2018 10:47:56 am

It is very disappointing to learn here that Marty Lagina has eradicated my initial opinion of him as a rational, sincere investigator. He is a total sellout now. Anyone who thinks they have a respectable reputation should realize by now that they should NOT appear on that show, regardless of the money. BTW and not that anyone is interested, I have watched only about two AA shows in its history and those were about , what , 8 years back, and immediately saw it for what it was. And that was despite my interest in UFOs.

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Joe Scales
7/28/2018 11:05:59 am

"It is very disappointing to learn here that Marty Lagina has eradicated my initial opinion of him as a rational, sincere investigator."

Since buying into Oak Island Tours Inc. about twelve years ago, it's never really been about the treasure for Marty Lagina; a lawyer, engineer and millionaire who undoubtedly did the research prior to the buy. He would have had access to Robert Dunfield's geological findings that ruled out such nonsense as "flood tunnels", yet each and every episode treats such fantasy as established fact. No, Marty and his brother Rick have lied from the get go, and continue their lies to this day. The only treasure they sought was notoriety, television ratings and potential tourist trade.

Sure, it was easy to fall for at the beginning. But if you spend some time on Richard Joltes' site, you'll realize there was never any rationale for finding treasure on that rock and the gullible have been bilked since 1849, the true year of the inception for this hoax. Lies upon lies upon lies.

http://www.criticalenquiry.org/oakisland/index.shtml

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Joe Scales
7/28/2018 11:14:49 am

Marty also was responsible for the Curse of Civil War Gold, another fraudulent, made up treasure show. Though entertaining for its unintentional humor and ever-changing narrative, that show really is an abomination as it accuses respected historical figures of theft and conspiracy without any evidence whatsoever. Just bungling idiots falsifying history to piggy-back on treasure hunt television ratings.

Gl
7/29/2018 09:36:45 pm

AA sux, same boat as you. I’m thinking they made Lagina do it to keep his show going, just seemed uncomfortable from the little I watched.

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Joe Scales
7/28/2018 11:24:16 am

"Finally, I want to point out that since Ancient Aliens returned from its summer hiatus, David Childress has been notably absent from the program."

No, he was in it. I think you meant the other David. Wilcock.

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Jason Colavito link
7/28/2018 11:56:41 am

How weird, I swore I wrote the right one. Thanks for pointing out the error. I've fixed it.

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Joe Scales
7/28/2018 12:36:48 pm

No problem. It just wouldn't be Ancient Aliens without Childress. You almost had me sad about that one.

expat link
7/28/2018 12:30:10 pm

Mistaking a stone carving for a robot head is a weird echo of Richard Hoagland's ridiculous claim that the Apollo 17 astronauts descended into crater "Shorty" and picked up a robot head for return to Earth.

Hoagland doesn't understand that they had no means of descending into a crater, and would have been forbidden to even if they had tried it, and no means of picking up a rock that size.

In addition, Hoagland fraudulently manipulated the image of that rock.

https://dorkmission.blogspot.com/2008/06/datas-head-image-proved-fraudulent.html

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FERN RED NIC
7/28/2018 01:31:14 pm

Hey! Come on now.. Don't be bullying Hoagie.
He knows tetrahedral geometry message encoded by ancient forebears!
And be warned... I know how to deal with a bully.
I once scared off a 100 burly men at a conference on poltergeists!
Coz I am a ninja.

Ps: Did you know Bigfoot is real?

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Shane Sullivan
7/28/2018 01:24:25 pm

"It couldn’t be that the 'guy' was pulling their leg, or that the bone wasn’t what it was represented to be, could it?"

A third possibility: That even the guy who believes in giants thinks the show is kinda stupid.

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Mrs. Non-Gorilla
7/28/2018 03:16:56 pm

I confess that I've never actually watched any AA. Mostly, I've just heard the pained laughter about it on the Archaeological Fantasies podcast. Not sure I could manage to watch it without a bottle of distilled spirits in hand. It sounds about as bad as a Netflix sci-fi movie, and that's more than I can take!

It seems that all of the various, bloated worlds of fundamentalism (Christianity, UFOs, cryptozoology, paranormal occurrences, etc.) are collapsing together into some moronic singularity. Has anyone claimed that sasquatch is one of the Nephilim? That Mothman is a fallen angel? That ghosts are higher-dimensional aliens? If not, I imagine it will happen soon enough. Humans love to make connections - no matter how ill-advised.

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Doc Rock
7/28/2018 03:59:50 pm

Campbell's concept of Cultic Milieu helps out somewhat here.

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Jason Colavito link
7/28/2018 04:40:17 pm

Yes, Sasquatch is routinely said to be either a space alien or a Nephilim. One evangelical recently said he was a "virtual reality demon," with demons, of course, being the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim.

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CensorColavito
7/28/2018 03:27:26 pm

Isn't it funny that Colavito is removing every critical post which is pointing out his hypocrisy among white supremacist thing in Ancient Aliens? Daily reminder - in Ancient Aliens they were discussing Newgrange from Ireland, Stonehenge from UK, Ggantija and Hypogeum from Malta, Carnac Stones from France and also structures from Italy and Greece - all WHITE countries. But Colavito insists on social media that according to Ancient Aliens only non-white people were unable to build ancient structures. That's ridiculous and obviously he is banning every post when somebody mentions this.

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Jason Colavito link
7/28/2018 04:42:21 pm

I didn't say that. You are alluding to someone else whom I retweeted. I have frequently mentioned that the modern ancient astronaut theory has expanded the traditional Victorian white supremacist view of fringe history to include prehistoric northern and western European locations in a desperate bid for more material.

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CensorColavito
7/28/2018 05:29:52 pm

Then why do you retweet clearly false claims? You should be 100% correct and not spreading clear example of fake news. It doesn't matter if culture was white or non-white, according to ancient aliens everywhere in the world ancient people were contacted by the aliens. There is no racism here, not a single action actually. Yet you are still pushing this ridiculous agenda to discredit Ancient Aliens as 'racist show', because you know that nowadays it's very popular to mark something as racist, thanks to what people won't have nothing in common to such theories. Luckily, that's not true, Ancient Aliens crew is not racist.

Jason Colavito link
7/28/2018 06:20:10 pm

I have been very clear that "Ancient Aliens" is the smiling façade pasted over some dark ideas. The show is not explicitly racist, but it features talking heads who make racist claims (von Daniken, who thinks the black race was "a failure," Childress in the old days when he thought there was white Muvian master race), make anti-Semitic claims (Wilcock, the late Jim Marrs), etc. The show leads people to writers and research that is very dark.

Joe Scales
7/29/2018 02:21:18 pm

" I have frequently mentioned that the modern ancient astronaut theory has expanded the traditional Victorian white supremacist view of fringe history to include prehistoric northern and western European locations in a desperate bid for more material."

In a desperate bid for more material? That's some really loaded language there and assumes that their quest for more material somehow outweighs their continued desire to embrace racism. To be fair, the flip side could be argued that perhaps they are moving away from racist philosophy of the past to make their unfounded speculation more progressive.

Jason Colavito link
7/29/2018 03:10:36 pm

I mean, Joe, that they are rather strict copyists and tend not to introduce new material until forced to. That doesn't mean they are desperate to be racist but that they don't consider it at all as they copy, copy, copy.

Americanegro
7/29/2018 03:13:09 pm

"I have been very clear that "Ancient Aliens" is the smiling façade pasted over some dark ideas. The show is not explicitly racist, but it features talking heads who make racist claims (von Daniken, who thinks the black race was "a failure," Childress in the old days when he thought there was white Muvian master race), make anti-Semitic claims (Wilcock, the late Jim Marrs), etc. The show leads people to writers and research that is very dark."

You could scrape the same blade of logic across The Million Man March: Minister Farrakhan believes the white race is a failed experiment by the Mad Scientist Yakub and makes anti-Semitic claims. Also believes he has been on a flying saucer. I believe the transcript of his speech, which was posted the-day-of is still available online.

Africa is a beautiful land full of marvelous people but due primarily to geographical reasons as Thomas Sowell lays out in Conquests and Cultures took way longer than the Americas, Europe, and Asia to climb out of what in The Age of Trump would be called "shithole" status. Before anyone gets started, of course colonialism and its aftereffects played a large role. But only after colonialism actually started.

"A few years ago this guy would have been getting us coffee [not 'community organizing', 'getting us coffee']." - Bill Clinton on Obama.

Goose, gander.

Americanegro
7/29/2018 02:23:41 am

Your argument makes no sense. You wrote:

"in Ancient Aliens they were discussing Newgrange from Ireland, Stonehenge from UK, Ggantija and Hypogeum from Malta, Carnac Stones from France and also structures from Italy and Greece - all WHITE countries.

But Colavito insists on social media that according to Ancient Aliens only non-white people were unable to build ancient structures. That's ridiculous and obviously he is banning every post when somebody mentions this."

How does AA mentioning white built structures impinge on Jason's idea that AA says that *only non-white people were unable to build ancient structures"?

Let me put it in simple terms:

You say:
--"white people built stuff".

Jason says:
--"Ancient Aliens says 'non-white people couldn't build stuff.'"

Do you see the disconnect? You not only fail to make your case, you fail to make it clear what your case is.

It's like you can't decode your own phrase: "only non-white people were unable to build" which allows for the possibility that white people *were* able to build. Fail better, won't you?

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Bill link
7/29/2018 07:55:41 pm

Ugh. This is getting to be so nonsensical. The Ancient Alien Hypothesis is an equal-opportunity insulter. Nearly every ancient civilization has a myth about "gods" (usually depicted in some kind of humanoid form) that not only created humans, but also introduced the arts of civilization like agriculture, war, and (at least in Egypt and Mesopotamia) building design. These myths were widespread throughout the Eastern and Western Hemisphere before contact with Indo-Europeans in civilizations that were starting to do some pretty amazing construction projects.

By all means, disagree with the basic Ancient Alien theory if you are so inclined, but please stop this nonsense that it is picking on ethnic minorities. It is picking on EVERYBODY because the entire human species is said to have been stupid and primitive until the aliens came along.

Jason Colavito link
7/30/2018 03:03:39 pm

That's fine, Bill, but the ancient astronaut theory, as proposed by Erich von Daniken, a credited producer of ancient aliens, asks if Blacks are "a failure" and whether Whites were created a "the chosen race."

Riley V
7/28/2018 11:38:51 pm

Finally “Ancient Aliens” is getting closer to the PUFT (Paranormal Unified Field Theory).

Linking Oak Island to Nephalim and Space Aliens is a good start, but they need to bring in Bigfoot, Poltergeists, and the Hollow Earth.

BTW, I’m and old. Weekly World News was doing a better job and Ancient Aliens, and that was 40 years ago.

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Brady Yoon
7/29/2018 02:23:17 am

The problem with the ancient alien theory is that all of the supposed evidence for aliens can be explained by an advanced human civilization in the past.

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bezalel
7/29/2018 06:55:26 am

Remove the term "advanced"

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Americanegro
7/29/2018 03:18:57 pm

Also remove the term "civilization".

Asdf
7/29/2018 11:22:14 am

It is possible that advanced humans and aliens are one and the same. Atlantis was a Pleiadean colony.

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OCS
7/29/2018 12:24:16 pm

LOL

An Anonymous Nerd
7/29/2018 06:32:48 pm

Welcome to the blog.

The problem with both of those notions is that all can be explained adequately without reference to either notion.

In all cases the mainstream explanations work better than the fringe ones. The details are all over this blog, the archyfantasies podcast, and numerous books you'll see us referencing now and again.

-An Anonymous Nerd

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Aaa
7/30/2018 03:24:30 am

Please do no start with ropes and pulleys again and name of Khufu painted in one obscure location. Theories like this are damaging to all of science as a body of knowledge.

An Anonymous Nerd
7/30/2018 04:42:16 pm

[[Please do no start with ropes and pulleys again and name of Khufu painted in one obscure location. Theories like this are damaging to all of science as a body of knowledge. ]]

Not theories, facts, and analyses based on those facts. The fact that these facts disturb notions of lost super civilizations, aliens, or what have you, that you find more pleasing, does not change the facts. What is bad for science is the substitution of fantastical ideas for facts and fact-based analyses. In this case the substitution of fancy for ropes, pulleys, grease, human intelligence, and a bizarre cultural will to appease the ego of a King because of the assumption that ego is tied in with the well-being of the Kingdom.

Here is a story about the finding of the village of the pyramid builders.

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/08/0805_020805_giza.html

Why would the super civilization leave us traces of Egyptian labor?

I also recommend you read Wilkinson's "Rise and Fall of Ancient Egypt," Romer's "The Great Pyramid," and Thorpe and James's "Ancient Mysteries." Also see here:

http://www.jasoncolavito.com/pyramid-facts-and-fancies.html

and here:

http://www.jasoncolavito.com/who-built-the-great-pyramid.html

and here:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/egypt/dispatches/990316.html

and here:

https://www.livescience.com/28961-ancient-giza-pyramid-builders-camp-unearthed.html

and here:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/ancient/who-built-the-pyramids.html

Oh, as to the inscription: If you mean what I think you do, it's not the only reason we have for thinking Khufu is associated with the pyramid. The details are in those books and I've forgotten. But go and read.

-An Anonymous Nerd

Campblor
7/29/2018 07:11:34 pm

If they wanted real star power, they should have brought in Kevin Dykstra from Curse of the Civil War Gold! That guy is hilarious

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Joe Scales@gmail.com
7/30/2018 10:40:41 am

Yeah, a show that can't even keep its origin story straight. First when angling for a television show, it was some banker's brother in law that gave a "deathbed confession" to a lighthouse keeper; a named individual allegedly in the know. But when that didn't shake out, it was the lighthouse keeper who suddenly became in the know and was the guy that died... because he must have been able to see a train car get dumped in the lake, and of course somehow could tell there was gold in it. And a confession heard by some guy who knew some other guy's grandfather who heard about it...

But Dykstra is the guy that jumped off the boat on a dive and hit the side of the boat, right? Now that was comedy gold.

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Campblor
7/30/2018 07:00:22 pm

Yeah thats the guy... comedy genius

E.P. Grondine
7/30/2018 12:00:16 pm

Hi Jason-

I heard a novel hypothesis this weekend from Charlie.

Charlie's hypothesis is that Earth is a dumping ground,
where aliens drop off their retards (or "developmentally challenged" in today's politically correct terms).

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Randle McMurphy
7/31/2018 07:25:37 am

That is a fringe theory that I wholeheartedly embrace.

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Peter B
8/1/2018 11:09:02 pm

My dad (b. 1901, and not surprisingly since deceased) maintained that the Earth was the Galaxy's lunatic asylum, and that explained everything about everything else. He also proposed that if you weren't in a room watching it, the furniture would whizz around and play games, and hop back into place as soon as a door opened. He was less serious about prop. 2 than about prop. 1. My point's merely that such ideas have been around a long time, in a kind of subterranean folklore.

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orang
7/30/2018 12:15:27 pm

Has Ancient Aliens claimed yet that the Templars might have been aliens, or worshiped an alien god? Just wondering.

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Damian
7/30/2018 05:17:15 pm

"The first segment opens with Tsoukalos, dressed in his hippie Indiana Jones field uniform" LOL

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Harte
7/30/2018 09:55:09 pm

Mr. Colavito,

I'm glad to have your synopsis of this episode (and others.)
I watch the show a lot - with the sound off.
I make up the dialogue as I go along.

Meh, it kills the time.

Anyway, I use your synopses to see how close I was.

Amazingly, my imagination never carries me as far as most of the claims go, despite my having followed these sorts of things for over two decades.

You should hear my David Hatcher Childress voice.

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Howard Vernon
8/5/2018 10:13:00 pm

What koind of voice is that?

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Harte
8/8/2018 03:23:20 pm

Some koined of shudder-inducing voice.

Dunior
7/31/2018 12:59:54 pm

In the last few weeks this blog has covered several subjects I have been reading about recently. Very interesting and spot on stuff happening here. Thank you.

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Bezalel
8/11/2018 03:04:26 pm

" Is it possible that his right-wing rants, promotion of discredited Pizzagate conspiracy theories, outspoken love of Trump and Russia, and anti-Semitic claims about the Rothschilds trying to kill him finally make him too toxic for a show that happily features Timothy Alberino, a man who claims that the liberal “technocratic elite” are literally in league with Satan?"

Sceptics reply with a resounding
"Yes"

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Pinturicchio
10/13/2018 05:37:59 am

The only thing these dumb fringe documentaries about aliens or Atlantis accomplish is insulting Sardinia's past. It's a shame there are no proper documentaries in English about the nuragic civilization but only this trash.

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Ginepro
10/13/2018 06:04:32 am

If anybody wants to acquire some actual information about the nuragic civilization go ahead and read my thread about it:

https://historum.com/threads/the-nuragic-civilization.139243/

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Frank
5/4/2019 08:33:43 pm

A little sarcasm goes a long way. A lot of sarcasm, which is all Colavito has, turns peeps away.

..."extremist Christian views," that allowed Europe to become what it was. Sure.



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    • Prehistory of Chupacabra
    • The Templars, the Holy Grail, & Henry Sinclair
    • Magicians of the Gods Review
    • The Curse of the Pharaohs
    • The Antediluvian Pyramid Myth
    • Whitewashing American Prehistory
    • James Dean's Cursed Porsche
  • The Library
    • Ancient Mysteries >
      • Ancient Texts >
        • Mesopotamian Texts >
          • Atrahasis Epic
          • Epic of Gilgamesh
          • Kutha Creation Legend
          • Babylonian Creation Myth
          • Descent of Ishtar
          • Berossus
          • Comparison of Antediluvian Histories
        • Egyptian Texts >
          • The Shipwrecked Sailor
          • Dream Stela of Thutmose IV
          • The Papyrus of Ani
          • Classical Accounts of the Pyramids
          • Inventory Stela
          • Manetho
          • Eratosthenes' King List
          • The Story of Setna
          • Leon of Pella
          • Diodorus on Egyptian History
          • On Isis and Osiris
          • Famine Stela
          • Old Egyptian Chronicle
          • The Book of Sothis
          • Horapollo
          • Al-Maqrizi's King List
        • Teshub and the Dragon
        • Hermetica >
          • The Three Hermeses
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          • Corpus Hermeticum
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          • Hermetic Fragments
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          • The Secret of Creation
          • Ancient Alphabets Explained
          • Prologue to Ibn Umayl's Silvery Water
          • Book of the 24 Philosophers
          • Aurora of the Philosophers
        • Hesiod's Theogony
        • Periplus of Hanno
        • Ctesias' Indica
        • Sanchuniathon
        • Sima Qian
        • Syncellus's Enoch Fragments
        • The Book of Enoch
        • Slavonic Enoch
        • Sepher Yetzirah
        • Tacitus' Germania
        • De Dea Syria
        • Aelian's Various Histories
        • Julius Africanus' Chronography
        • Eusebius' Chronicle
        • Chinese Accounts of Rome
        • Ancient Chinese Automaton
        • The Orphic Argonautica
        • Fragments of Panodorus
        • Annianus on the Watchers
        • The Watchers and Antediluvian Wisdom
      • Medieval Texts >
        • Medieval Legends of Ancient Egypt >
          • Medieval Pyramid Lore
          • John Malalas on Ancient Egypt
          • Fragments of Abenephius
          • Akhbar al-zaman
          • Ibrahim ibn Wasif Shah
          • Murtada ibn al-‘Afif
          • Al-Maqrizi on the Pyramids
          • Al-Suyuti on the Pyramids
        • The Hunt for Noah's Ark
        • Isidore of Seville
        • Book of Liang: Fusang
        • Agobard on Magonia
        • Book of Thousands
        • Voyage of Saint Brendan
        • Power of Art and of Nature
        • Travels of Sir John Mandeville
        • Yazidi Revelation and Black Book
        • Al-Biruni on the Great Flood
        • Voyage of the Zeno Brothers
        • The Kensington Runestone (Hoax)
        • Islamic Discovery of America
        • The Aztec Creation Myth
      • Lost Civilizations >
        • Atlantis >
          • Plato's Atlantis Dialogues >
            • Timaeus
            • Critias
          • Fragments on Atlantis
          • Panchaea: The Other Atlantis
          • Eumalos on Atlantis (Hoax)
          • Gómara on Atlantis
          • Sardinia and Atlantis
          • Santorini and Atlantis
          • The Mound Builders and Atlantis
          • Donnelly's Atlantis
          • Atlantis in Morocco
          • Atlantis and the Sea Peoples
          • W. Scott-Elliot >
            • The Story of Atlantis
            • The Lost Lemuria
          • The Lost Atlantis
          • Atlantis in Africa
          • How I Found Atlantis (Hoax)
          • Termier on Atlantis
          • The Critias and Minoan Crete
          • Rebuttal to Termier
          • Further Responses to Termier
          • Flinders Petrie on Atlantis
        • Lost Cities >
          • Miscellaneous Lost Cities
          • The Seven Cities
          • The Lost City of Paititi
          • Manuscript 512
          • The Idolatrous City of Iximaya (Hoax)
          • The 1885 Moberly Lost City Hoax
          • The Elephants of Paredon (Hoax)
        • OOPARTs
        • Oronteus Finaeus Antarctica Map
        • Caucasians in Panama
        • Jefferson's Excavation
        • Fictitious Discoveries in America
        • Against Diffusionism
        • Tunnels Under Peru
        • The Parahyba Inscription (Hoax)
        • Mound Builders
        • Gunung Padang
        • Tales of Enchanted Islands
        • The 1907 Ancient World Map Hoax
        • The 1909 Grand Canyon Hoax
        • The Interglacial Period
        • Solving Oak Island
      • Religious Conspiracies >
        • Pantera, Father of Jesus?
        • Toledot Yeshu
        • Peter of les Vaux-de-Cernay on Cathars
        • Testimony of Jean de Châlons
        • Rosslyn Chapel and the 'Prentice's Pillar
        • The Many Wives of Jesus
        • Templar Infiltration of Labor
        • Louis Martin & the Holy Bloodline
        • The Life of St. Issa (Hoax)
        • On the Person of Jesus Christ
      • Giants in the Earth >
        • Fossil Origins of Myths >
          • Fossil Teeth and Bones of Elephants
          • Fossil Elephants
          • Fossil Bones of Teutobochus
          • Fossil Mammoths and Giants
          • Giants' Bones Dug Out of the Earth
          • Fossils and the Supernatural
          • Fossils, Myth, and Pseudo-History
          • Man During the Stone Age
          • Fossil Bones and Giants
          • American Elephant Myths
          • The Mammoth and the Flood
          • Fossils and Myth
          • Fossil Origin of the Cyclops
          • Mastodon, Mammoth, and Man
        • Fragments on Giants
        • Manichaean Book of Giants
        • Geoffrey on British Giants
        • Alfonso X's Hermetic History of Giants
        • Boccaccio and the Fossil 'Giant'
        • Book of Howth
        • Purchas His Pilgrimage
        • Edmond Temple's 1827 Giant Investigation
        • The Giants of Sardinia
        • Giants and the Sons of God
        • The Magnetism of Evil
        • Tertiary Giants
        • Smithsonian Giant Reports
        • Early American Giants
        • The Giant of Coahuila
        • Jewish Encyclopedia on Giants
        • Index of Giants
        • Newspaper Accounts of Giants
        • Lanier's A Book of Giants
      • Science and History >
        • Halley on Noah's Comet
        • The Newport Tower
        • Iron: The Stone from Heaven
        • Ararat and the Ark
        • Pyramid Facts and Fancies
        • Argonauts before Homer
        • The Deluge
        • Crown Prince Rudolf on the Pyramids
        • Old Mythology in New Apparel
        • Blavatsky on Dinosaurs
        • Teddy Roosevelt on Bigfoot
        • Devil Worship in France
        • Maspero's Review of Akhbar al-zaman
        • The Holy Grail as Lucifer's Crown Jewel
        • The Mutinous Sea
        • The Rock Wall of Rockwall
        • Fabulous Zoology
        • The Origins of Talos
        • Mexican Mythology
        • Chinese Pyramids
        • Maqrizi's Names of the Pharaohs
      • Extreme History >
        • Roman Empire Hoax
        • American Antiquities
        • American Cataclysms
        • England, the Remnant of Judah
        • Historical Chronology of the Mexicans
        • Maspero on the Predynastic Sphinx
        • Vestiges of the Mayas
        • Ragnarok: The Age of Fire and Gravel
        • Origins of the Egyptian People
        • The Secret Doctrine >
          • Volume 1: Cosmogenesis
          • Volume 2: Anthropogenesis
        • Phoenicians in America
        • The Electric Ark
        • Traces of European Influence
        • Prince Henry Sinclair
        • Pyramid Prophecies
        • Templars of Ancient Mexico
        • Chronology and the "Riddle of the Sphinx"
        • The Faith of Ancient Egypt
        • Spirit of the Hour in Archaeology
        • Book of the Damned
        • Great Pyramid As Noah's Ark
        • Richard Shaver's Proofs
    • Alien Encounters >
      • US Government Ancient Astronaut Files >
        • Fortean Society and Columbus
        • Inquiry into Shaver and Palmer
        • The Skyfort Document
        • Whirling Wheels
        • Denver Ancient Astronaut Lecture
        • Soviet Search for Lemuria
        • Visitors from Outer Space
        • Unidentified Flying Objects (Abstract)
        • "Flying Saucers"? They're a Myth
        • UFO Hypothesis Survival Questions
        • Air Force Academy UFO Textbook
        • The Condon Report on Ancient Astronauts
        • Atlantis Discovery Telegrams
        • Ancient Astronaut Society Telegram
        • Noah's Ark Cables
        • The Von Daniken Letter
        • CIA Psychic Probe of Ancient Mars
        • Scott Wolter Lawsuit
        • UFOs in Ancient China
        • CIA Report on Noah's Ark
        • CIA Noah's Ark Memos
        • Congressional Ancient Aliens Testimony
        • Ancient Astronaut and Nibiru Email
        • Congressional Ancient Mars Hearing
        • House UFO Hearing
      • Ancient Extraterrestrials >
        • Premodern UFO Sightings
        • The Moon Hoax
        • Inhabitants of Other Planets
        • Blavatsky on Ancient Astronauts
        • The Stanzas of Dzyan (Hoax)
        • Aerolites and Religion
        • What Is Theosophy?
        • Plane of Ether
        • The Adepts from Venus
      • A Message from Mars
      • Saucer Mystery Solved?
      • Orville Wright on UFOs
      • Interdimensional Flying Saucers
      • Flying Saucers Are Real
      • Report on UFOs
    • The Supernatural >
      • The Devils of Loudun
      • Sublime and Beautiful
      • Voltaire on Vampires
      • Demonology and Witchcraft
      • Thaumaturgia
      • Bulgarian Vampires
      • Religion and Evolution
      • Transylvanian Superstitions
      • Defining a Zombie
      • Dread of the Supernatural
      • Vampires
      • Werewolves and Vampires and Ghouls
      • Science and Fairy Stories
      • The Cursed Car
    • Classic Fiction >
      • Lucian's True History
      • Some Words with a Mummy
      • The Coming Race
      • King Solomon's Mines
      • An Inhabitant of Carcosa
      • The Xipéhuz
      • Lot No. 249
      • The Novel of the Black Seal
      • The Island of Doctor Moreau
      • Pharaoh's Curse
      • Edison's Conquest of Mars
      • The Lost Continent
      • Count Magnus
      • The Mysterious Stranger
      • The Wendigo
      • Sredni Vashtar
      • The Lost World
      • The Red One
      • H. P. Lovecraft >
        • Dagon
        • The Call of Cthulhu
        • History of the Necronomicon
        • At the Mountains of Madness
        • Lovecraft's Library in 1932
      • The Skeptical Poltergeist
      • The Corpse on the Grating
      • The Second Satellite
      • Queen of the Black Coast
      • A Martian Odyssey
    • Classic Genre Movies
    • Miscellaneous Documents >
      • The Balloon-Hoax
      • A Problem in Greek Ethics
      • The Migration of Symbols
      • The Gospel of Intensity
      • De Profundis
      • The Life and Death of Crown Prince Rudolf
      • The Bathtub Hoax
      • Crown Prince Rudolf's Letters
      • Position of Viking Women
      • Employment of Homosexuals
      • James Dean's Love Letters
      • The Amazing James Dean Hoax!
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