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Review of Ancient Aliens S13E11 "Russia Declassified"

8/17/2018

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​This week, a new report found that Russian trolls and bots helped spread the Pizzagate and Q-Anon conspiracies, conspiracies that have found favor with ancient astronaut theorists affiliated with Ancient Aliens. David Wilcock, who has not appeared on the show for several months, has boasted of receiving “intel” from Russia and continued to endorse the reality of the fake Pizzagate story as recently as last month. Richard Dolan delivered a Facebook Live session in which he refused to denounce the Q-Anon conspiracy theory (he called it “interesting”) and instead said that if Russians were responsible for cybercrimes against Democrats, Americans should thank them. He added that Russian propaganda is good thing as long as its information is “accurate.” Now, for the second time in two years--the first came just weeks before the 2016 election--Ancient Aliens devotes a troubling episode to praising Russia. Following on the heels of a two-hour documentary on Sunday that heavily implied that America needed to ally itself with Russia for the sake of restoring Christendom in preparation for the End Times, this episode left a sour taste in my mouth. Why is the History Channel embracing Russia, if not because its audience of older, white, conservative men now see Putin as a hero?
​It might make good business sense to appeal to audience’s current prejudices, but it makes for disturbing television. Note, by the way, that this obnoxious pandering isn’t necessarily a political choice per se. History’s parent company, A+E Networks, also owns and operates Viceland, a complementary channel that panders to its young and liberal post-Millennial audience with liberal and libertine programs about sex and drugs. It’s all about the money, I’m sure. But the damage is real.
 
I mean, for crying out loud, tonight Ancient Aliens proposed that the U.S. and Russian governments are secret allies working together to battle evil space aliens (“Space Force”?) and openly called for America and Russia to unite against their common enemies, which is just a step removed from openly endorsing political collusion with a hostile foreign power. In fact, it’s a slightly bastardized form of the current alt-right argument that Russia is the last true Christian power and needs to ally with America to repel the Muslims—seen as that other kind of alien. After all, Ancient Aliens does not make the same effort with China, or India, or any of the other world powers. In other words, however you slice it, the show is suggesting that Russians are on “our” team, which is a current talking point among Trump supporters.
 
But nothing could be further from the truth, as every organ of the United States government has concluded, and even the Trump Administration itself has conceded. This extends, by the way, beyond politics to questions of science.
 
As Foreign Policy reported in 2016, Vladimir Putin has used organs of the Russian state to promote all manner of pseudoscience with the goal of undermining the notions of truth and reality in the name of discrediting Western science. And American media eat up Russia’s fake claims. But Russian involvement in the ancient astronaut theory and ufology goes much deeper, building on a sixty-year-long effort by the Soviet and Russian governments to promote ancient astronaut beliefs in the West. Today, that takes the form of a pipeline where ancient astronaut claims are gathered from the most insane corners of the internet, or sometimes concocted outright, and then legitimized through being reported in Russian government-funded propaganda sites, including Sputnik magazine and the RT television network. Once given this legitimacy, the stories populate the online editions of U.K. tabloids like the Express and the Mail Online, which will recycle any content in a bottomless search for clicks. Having been laundered, the claims percolate upward to Ancient Aliens where they are packaged for a mass audience. The genius of the system is that it works automatically, through the collective power of greed and the media’s endless hunger for new content, without any need for official collusion or even intention. But nevertheless, it is no coincidence that Sputnik and RT report on a large proportion of the material that also appears on Ancient Aliens.
 
(Disclosure: RT asked me to appear earlier this year on a program devoted to ancient astronaut conspiracy theories, but they terminated communication when I asked if their coverage of these conspiracy theories came on orders from Moscow.) 

Earlier in the season, Ancient Aliens had Democratic operative John Podesta on to give cover and credence to a conspiracy popular among a certain set that the so-called Deep State was a hostile entity with an agenda that could not be trusted. Now we hear about how amazing revelations are coming not from the corrupt American Deep State but from those honest and lovable chaps over at the Kremlin.
​Segment 1
The episode opens with a 2012 nuclear security summit held in Seoul in which Pres. Obama told Russian Pres. Dimitri Medvedev (then subbing in for Putin, who took the role of prime minister due to a constitutional limitation Putin later removed) that he needed “space.” Quite obviously it meant that Obama needed room to work, but Ancient Aliens asserts that it meant that Obama claimed all of outer space for the United States, apparently in violation of the treaties that govern the use of space. Later that year, Medvedev made his infamous comments about having access to top secret information “entirely devoted to the visitors to our planet.” This was apparently intended as a joke, but the ancient astronaut theorists, particularly newly minted Russophile Richard Dolan, take it as serious confession that multiple species of aliens are in contact with the Russian government. The show then asserts that the Russians and the Americans had a “secret relationship” to work together on UFO and alien issues. This is rather surprising considering that declassified U.S. documents show that the American government planted fake UFO stories in the media to fool the Russians, and the Russians apparently did the same for the Americans. As a result, this “cooperation” seems to be entirely at odds with the documentary record.
 
Meanwhile, the show repeats material from earlier episodes about the so-called “Russian Roswell,” when a Russian air fighter allegedly shot down a cigar-shaped alien spaceship in 1948. Even though the show’s talking heads can point to no evidence that this incident ever occurred, Nick Pope decides that it meant that the Soviet lead in the space race was due entirely to “live aliens” who “gave them the edge in the Space Race.” Oddly, it was not that long ago that the show attributed America’s success in the Space Race to the Nazis and their UFO secrets. The truth of the matter is more prosaic: America captured or relocated Nazi rocket scientists, but the Soviets captured all of their records, their research materials, and the remains of their rockets and were able to recreate them and move forward faster than their American counterparts could recreate them. They further benefited from a totalitarian government’s ability to devote resources to the space program virtually unchecked.
​Segment 2
The second segment discusses the 1970s era of American and Soviet cooperation in space, but Ancient Aliens instead asserts that America and Russia had been working together in space since 1948. But it’s rather weird that everyone uses the passive voice or impersonal language (“…there’s an argument that…”, Nick Pope says, disbelieving his own mouth), as though even Ancient Aliens recognizes that this is ridiculous speculation. Mike Bara and Travis Taylor, an aerospace engineer best known from Rocket City Rednecks on NatGeo but a regular cable TV presence, show up to blather on about speculation that there are structures on the far side of the moon allegedly captured by Soviet photographs in the 1960s. Jason Martell claims that a photo taken by a Soviet probe near Mars’s moon Phobos shows a laser beam shooting down Phobos II. William Henry declares a rock on Phobos to be a “monolith” akin to those from 2001: A Space Odyssey and not just a tall natural formation. This is all material that has been frequently discussed and debunked, and it has appeared on this show before. 
​Segment 3
The third segment is a virtual repeat of a segment from 2016 about Russian rocketry pioneer Konstantin Tsiolkovsky, an advocate of “cosmism,” the belief that humans came from the stars and should return to them. As in 2016, the talking heads repeat the notion that cosmism is an early form of ancient astronaut theory, and they repeat the claim that Tsiolkovsky had received his rocket science from alien thought beams. Apparently, Tsiolkovsky believed he had been in contact with space aliens, not entirely different from the Theosophists of the same era who claimed to be in touch with beings from Venus. The show, naturally, takes this literally. While they make much hay of Tsiolkovsky’s cosmism but they neglect to report that he also believed in a mechanical universe in which a cosmic entity controlled all the beings in existence as though they were marionettes or characters in a movie. Nick Pope asserts that the Americans believed cosmism to be the key to Soviet space success and therefore sought to copy their embrace of ancient astronautics and ufology. The narrator adds that Americans probably partnered with the Soviets because of their joint belief in ancient astronaut theory and UFOs. I would dismiss this as stupid fantasy, but it’s not entirely untrue. The part about a secret partnership is false, of course, and the two superpowers used UFOs and ancient astronaut material to bait one another and cover up spy missions and military testing, but… In the 1970s, American psychical researchers such as Hal Putoff and Jacques Vallée did indeed convince intelligence agents and defense officials that there was something to ancient astronaut theories and ufology.
​Segment 4
The fourth segment describes Russia before Vladimir Putin as “a hellhole,” which basically serves to endorse Putin’s rule, even though they admit that Putin is an “autocrat.” Even so, they seem impressed by what they call his ability to avoid public scrutiny and to impose strict secrecy—an odd claim considering their usual line is that America’s Deep State has such total secrecy that not a single fact can escape its black hole. Like many in our current world, power seems to be the real object of their affection.
 
Nick Pope says that America ceded space to Russia after 2011 when the space shuttle program ended and Russian Soyuz rockets became the only way for Americans to reach the Russian space station. The narrator claims that this is an “admission” that the Russians are and have always been supreme in space, rather than the more obvious answer that American elites prefer to spend the country’s money on its ruling class’s wars and tax cuts rather than on science, while Putin considers the space program Russia’s prestige project. (In reality, the state corporation that runs Russia’s space program is beset with productivity and efficiency problems, funding issues, and obsolete equipment.)
​Segment 5
The fifth segment asks whether the aliens that visit the Earth are actually robots or artificial entities. This leads to a discussion of Russian efforts to achieve immortality by uploading a person’s personality to a computer. This is dumb. A copy of a brain is not the person. It is a copy of the person, a simulacrum. Imagine, for example, that you upload a copy of your consciousness at your death, as they want to do, but then the wire snaps and you don’t get euthanized. Now there are two of “you,” even though one has continuity of consciousness from birth to the present, and the other is merely a copy that thinks it does. This leads the show to talk about transplanting brains into robots and to openly express praise for autocracy, claiming that Russia’s autocratic government will allow them to perform unethical scientific experiments on human subjects that America’s namby-pamby concern for human welfare and informed consent simply will not allow. Nick Pope and Travis Taylor expressly declare autocracy to be the superior system for achieving dramatic scientific advancements in human-robot convergence.  “There is a real benefit to the U.S. in making the Russian our partners,” Pope says, with a rather malevolent glee, considering he is not American and therefore the “our” is misplaced.
 
Just stop and think about this for a moment: A popular program on a mainstream American cable channel is openly embracing autocracy and expressing veiled contempt for democratic institutions.
​Segment 6
The sixth segment reports Donald Trump’s call to establish a Space Force, and the narrator asks if this was related to Trump’s one-on-one meeting with Putin in Helsinki, where only their translators were present. Nick Pope claims that Trump and Putin discussed the alien threat and are working together to establish a military presence in space for the joint defense of the Earth. Taylor praises the Space Force as a necessary step to protect Earth, and the final segment comes fairly close to praising Trump for his secret contacts with the Russians and his private meeting with Putin. Pope says America and Russia are “inextricably bound together,” and the show tells us that only by fully embracing Putin’s Russia as a full and complete partner for America can we join with the alien gods (who were just attacking warriors a minute earlier… but whatever, right?) and achieve transcendence.
 
The only question I had at the end was whether the show’s writers are on Russia’s payroll or if Russia merely bought a lot of stock in A+E Networks. This wouldn’t have been out of place on RT rather than the History Channel.
63 Comments
GodricGlas
8/17/2018 10:22:47 pm

Hi, Jason.

Thank you! And you know why.

I haven’t finished reading your post, but I have been exposed to soooo much of what you are describing, that I’ll save any contextual post, if I ever develop one, until after I watch and re-read your post.

I just wanted to step up first to say:

Fuck. You. Russia!

We know how deeply your envy has driven you to hate America like you do.

Yer gonna fail.

But have fun trying whatever yer trying on the interwebs.

Thanks again, Jason.

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Americanegro
8/17/2018 10:54:24 pm

I hereby consecrate Russia to the Sacred Heart of Our Lady of Space, the Blessed Virgin Mary.

"(Actual allies don’t need to hide the fact.)" In actual practice exactly the opposite is often true: the U.S, and England before 12/7/41, the U.S. parachuting rebels into Tibet in the 60s, the alliance with the Hmong in the Laotian War...

What these examples have in common is that yes, alliances DO need to be hidden. From the U.S.'s own citizens. Everyone else already knows.

Without approving of what the Chinese are doing with the Uighurs and the Hui, I long for the day when a Yazidi woman can walk down a street in Germany WITHOUT running into the guy who made her a Daesh sex slave.

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GodricGlas
8/17/2018 11:10:16 pm

I long for the day that Yazidi women, and their families, can walk-down whatever streets they choose.

Fuck.Germany.Too.

Right?

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GodricGlas
8/17/2018 11:13:34 pm

No, seriously, I love the Yazidi people.

They’re at least as much fun as the Nizari Ismaili.

😊

Wilson Kemp
8/19/2018 04:12:11 pm

Please do not disfigure this excellent website with obscenities.

GodricGlas
8/23/2018 12:05:04 am

Piss off, Wilson.

Jason Colavito link
8/18/2018 08:15:59 am

You're right... I was thinking of formal treaty alliances, which haven't typically been done in secret, at least among the Western democracies, since World War I made secret alliances unsavory. Less formal secret cooperation has certainly been going on. I'll just delete the line rather than turn it into a giant thing.

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An Anonymous Nerd
8/17/2018 11:08:31 pm

At least no one reasonably can claim Mr. Colavito made up a Russia connection, and all of the odd political implications of that, this time. They weren't hiding it.

-An Anonymous Nerd

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GodricGlas
8/17/2018 11:25:15 pm

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mLhP4UIfMLo

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Machala
8/17/2018 11:34:14 pm

Related to the Russian troll connection and how much of this misinformation is currently being disseminated, I found the following article very interesting:

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/how-three-conspiracy-theorists-took-q-sparked-qanon-n900531

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GodricGlas
8/17/2018 11:57:14 pm

It’s 5 minutes to 7 am in Moscow, right now.

😊.

Bring it, Fuckers.

🤞

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Wilson Kemp
8/19/2018 04:13:42 pm

Please do not disfigure this excellent website with obscenities.

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Americanegro
8/19/2018 04:48:43 pm

You make a fuckin' great point Wilson.

GodricGlas
8/23/2018 12:07:11 am

Feel free to continue pissing off, Wilson.

GodricGlas
8/18/2018 12:20:47 am

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M9EjE4qm7b8

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Joe Scales
8/18/2018 08:25:50 am

"​It might make good business sense to appeal to audience’s current prejudices, but it makes for disturbing television."

That actually works both ways in regard to Russia and the current political climate in the U.S. It's funny too, how the perspectives of both sides have switched places; you know, going from "reset" to "collusion" or "red scare" to "wouldn't it be great if we were friends". But they got you too Jason, with the whole Russian hysteria. Perhaps it's the near middle-aged white guy in you...

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Jason Colavito link
8/18/2018 08:41:15 am

I'm not hysterical about it, Joe. For nearly two decades, America has tried to "reset" relations with Putin, and every time Putin proves an untrustworthy partner who acts against America's interests. At some point, it's just stupid to pursue policies that have proved unworkable.

To our purpose, Russia has a documented history of promoting ancient astronaut theories in a way that other major world powers do not, and Russian ancient astronaut material is (as far as declassified records show) the only such material that the U.S. government collected from abroad. There has never been a release, for example, of a CIA collection of Italian or Argentinian ancient astronaut articles. The U.S. government clearly once considered the subject important enough to investigate as part of Soviet/Russian propaganda and political material, so it isn't really hysteria to recognize this.

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Joe Scales
8/18/2018 12:50:01 pm

We should certainly be concerned with any foreign government attempting to hack into our voting systems. However, the trolling and social media nonsense had been well known for some time and only became a compelling issue when Trump won; in a hysterical effort to throw shade upon him. And yes, the hysteria in which you are now fully engaged.

Americanegro
8/18/2018 01:51:17 pm

"every time Putin proves an untrustworthy partner who acts against America's interests"

While Mme. Clinton famously compared Putin to Hitler...."against America's interests" or "in Russia's interest"?

"and every time Putin proves an untrustworthy partner" Yeah! Remember that time he raided U.S. diplomatic facilities in several parts of Russia? Oh wait, no, that was us. Nevermind.

Remember that time Putin illegally invaded Syria? Oh wait, no, that was us. Nevermind.

Might want to ask Col. Qaddafi who he considers an untrustworthy partner. Oh, that's right, you can't. "We came, we saw, he died. Cackle!"

An Anonymous Nerd
8/18/2018 07:46:41 pm

[the trolling and social media nonsense had been well known for some time and only became a compelling issue when Trump won]

Well known to you perhaps. I had no idea there was significant foreign interference from any foreign power. When it comes to light and it does not favor your guy you deem it "hysteria." I dread to imagine your reaction if things were reversed. Actually we already know this: You've tried to imply that the DNC hacking was exaggerated in some way and that there was some kind of conspiracy when the DNC hired a tech firm to combat the hacking.

Also "hysteria" about Russia seems an odd thing to call it in this context. The show seems to have named the episode for Russia and devoted the content to Russia. Unless you're saying that Mr. Colavito's description is inaccurate.

-An Anonymous Nerd

Not the Comte de Saint Germain
8/19/2018 01:40:54 pm

To be fair to Joe, Trump isn't "his guy." Joe just thinks it's hysteria to say that a president who demands praise from his subordinates, personally insults anyone who criticizes him, puts utterly unqualified family members in high positions, acts more at ease with dictators than with the leaders of allied democracies, lies so reflexively and blatantly that he seems detached from reality, and attracts a neo-Nazi fanbase is much more of a danger to the country than a run-of-the-mill hack politician.

Joe Scales
8/20/2018 10:10:15 am

Non compos mentis, more like it...

An Anonymous Nerd
8/18/2018 07:43:35 pm

[But they got you too Jason, with the whole Russian hysteria.]

Ah. A chance to quote myself. Not my favorite thing but:

[At least no one reasonably can claim Mr. Colavito made up a Russia connection, and all of the odd political implications of that, this time. They weren't hiding it.]

I take note of the title of the episode.

-An Anonymous Nerd

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Titus pullo
8/18/2018 09:13:59 am

I had read that the darn commies beat us to orbit because they couldnt build small nukes hence their icbm were bigger. And that byproduct was lauching satellites and capsules to orbit. The US first satellite was launched on a modified icbm and was tiny compared to the russians. Once we had Titan and then Saturn Series we could throw more tons into orbit and beyond. Soyuz are really small. Id rather fly in a 50 year old Apollo CM than a 2018 Sotuz.

I do find it funny that the anerican left who were proponents of the old USSR have reverted back to “need to overtriw the czar” stuff. I would u look at the biggest screamers if russia us our enemy and u will see a very high percentage that have axes to grind back to when their forefathers were discriminated against in pre lenin russia.

As for russia prop in our ayatem, they created fake facebook stes and pushed prop in media. And other countries dont do this? Does the US do the same thing? Its really up to our govt to protect us from foreign prop and given our defense budget we shoyld be doing better.

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Titus pullo
8/18/2018 09:52:46 am

My apologies for my grammer and spelling. At 55 my eyes suck and typing on my iphone and proof reading is difficult. Hopefully u got the just of my argument.

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Indeinvisible
8/19/2018 01:14:14 pm

I come to Jasons' site for perspective, but, stay for the comments, it took me only a brief second to parse ayatem as system, and anarkin as American, but it was fun. Or fub

Machala
8/18/2018 09:37:11 am

As much as SA does not like the U.S. interference in their political affairs, they like the Russians less. South American countries have learned their lesson when it comes to dealing with Russia - particularly in business and commerce.
We are reluctant trading partners with the United States but still - with the exception of Big Oil - are open to U.S. companies and entrepreneurs. The major economic player, however in SA is China - which is far outstripping the U.S. in influence here. Japan and S.Korea are also players but the Russians are by-and-large considered thieves, meddlers,heavy-handed and cheap.

I mention this because while the U.S. is preoccupied with the growing interference of Russia in the States and its fomentation of division of the U.S.politically and socially, China has quietly taken over South America financially. They're wise enough not to rock the very profitable mineral and resource exploitation boat, by interjecting any type of political ideology or cyber control.....for now.

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Causticacrostic
8/18/2018 02:29:13 pm

It's not too surprising that the Chinese are involved in South America, as they are heavily invested in Africa as well.

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Machala
8/18/2018 06:26:07 pm

The difference is that in Africa, they are thoroughly despised. An awful lot of this animus stems from how they highhandedly ran roughshod over the locals in mineral exploitation and exploration.

Here in South America, to some degree the Chinese learned from their mistakes made in Africa and have trod a little lightly. They've kept up the charm offensive and worked closer with the SA government agencies and bureaucracies, and have adhered closer to environmental laws,here. BUT particularly in the mining industry, their natural inclination towards secrecy and closed society, has begun to cause some of the same problems that they had in Africa.

Another difference is that South America has more to offer in exports and has always been a lucrative market for Chinese imports.

There is also a racial element at play in many parts of Africa that does not seem to occur here. Chinese immigration, so far, has been unimpeded and the Chinese seem to easily blend into the South American cultures much easier than the African ones.

Along with English as a foreign language being taught in schools down here, Mandarin is fast becoming THE language, smart young students, interested in a career in business, are learning.

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Doc Rock
8/18/2018 09:29:32 pm

Is there a history of Chinese migration to South America? If my memory serves me correctly there was some Japanese migration to Peru and brazil at one point. Not sure if there was a similar movement of Chinese?

Jason the Leftist imbecile
8/18/2018 06:54:57 pm

Oh don't mention twerp the Democratic party paying the Russian Government for a fake dossier to influence an election. Or a fake Russian delusion collusion story paid for by Democrats.
Idiot.
Pyscho leftist moron.

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An Anonymous Nerd
8/18/2018 07:48:22 pm

As funny as it is to see the instinctive Right Fringe grasp for insults, sadly it's lost some of its humor in the age of Alex Jones and the mainstreaming of the Right Fringe.

-An Anonymous Nerd

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Truth
8/18/2018 06:58:04 pm

Or the fact that Bernie Sanders loves the old Soviet Union. Or John Brennan voted and registered as a Communist.
Or your hero Obozo praising a racist killer in South Africa. Or your hero commie Che killing children.
100 million dead thanks to leftist like you Jason.
Stupid twerp.

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Americanegro
8/18/2018 07:08:09 pm

You also had some very fine people on both sides.

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Machala
8/18/2018 07:20:48 pm

Chortle, chortle !

An Anonymous Nerd
8/18/2018 07:48:01 pm

As funny as it is to see the instinctive Right Fringe grasp for insults, sadly it's lost some of its humor in the age of Alex Jones and the mainstreaming of the Right Fringe.

-An Anonymous Nerd

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GodricGlas
8/18/2018 11:34:17 pm

Okey Dokey, wathched the show. Re-read the blog post.

Jason is dead-on.

So, how do we prosecute A&E and The “History” Channel for treason?

Anyone?

Because I’m totally done with their pandering horse-shit.

Just sayin’.

WTF did I just watch?

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Americanegro
8/18/2018 11:42:55 pm

Awww jeez Edith! Treason has a very specific definition in U.S. law and it's super easy to find.

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GodricGlas
8/18/2018 11:58:12 pm

Well sure, I bet that it does.

But I’m just getting used to the mouth-feel of the word and my passion suggests it applies to A&E.

I will accept your admonishment and go forth to read.

BRB.

😊

GodricGlas
8/19/2018 12:03:12 am

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IkdmOVejUlI

Okay, all done.

“Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.”

Any questions?

Jaydus!

GodricGlas
8/19/2018 12:05:49 am

Sorry,

Meant to say, “Jaysus”.

It’s an Irish thing. You wouldn’t understand.

😂

Americanidjit
8/19/2018 12:51:47 am

Don't forget the bit about two witnesses or confession in open court.

GodricGlas
8/19/2018 01:09:56 am

You’ve never played Go, have you?

You poor sad thing.

Stop impersonating my friend.

GodricGlas
8/19/2018 02:01:50 am

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zXhLFb34nz4

http://www.metrolyrics.com/in-a-manner-of-speaking-lyrics-nouvelle-vague.html

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OCS
8/19/2018 04:24:14 pm

I would offer a suggestion..... rather posting a link, post a title to go with it. Personally I never click on a link without some sort of expectation as to where it might lead or what it might contain.

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GodricGlas
8/23/2018 12:03:26 am

You can’t “click” via a mobile platform, Sweetheart.

It’s “swipe-and-paste”.

*shrug*

😊

Hal
8/19/2018 12:15:34 pm

Everything is about Trump. Utter nonsense.

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Americanegro
8/19/2018 04:50:21 pm

Why are you posting about Trump?

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Joe Scales
8/19/2018 08:10:25 pm

To attract cyber-stalkers? Gotta be careful 'round these parts. Their go to weapon of choice is... boredom.

Americanegro
8/19/2018 09:17:08 pm

Hal! Stop hitting yourself! Why are you hitting yourself!

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An Anonymous Nerd
8/21/2018 03:06:07 pm

Per Mr. Colavito's summary, the episode itself referenced U.S. President Trump. Even if it didn't, Russian President Putin has stated publicly that he wanted Trump to win the election. And it's very clear that Russia sought to influence the 2016 election, and continues to try to influence the 2018 election, and doubtlessly will continue into 2020.

The connection to President Trump, all in all, is clear and if you want this stuff to not be about Trump I suggest you write your friends on "Ancient Aliens," and tell them to avoid doing that touch on Right Wing politics or Russia.

-An Anonymous Nerd

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Americanegro
8/21/2018 04:02:56 pm

"And it's very clear that Russia sought to influence the 2016 election..."

It's not clear at all and even if we accept the premise it's not clear which candidate Russia wanted to win.

Obama interfered in an Israeli election so it's clear that:

You had some very fine people on both sides.

GodricGlas
8/23/2018 12:34:20 am

<i>You<i> are all about “Trump”.

You weirdo.

Get a real job/s, lazy boy.

*shrug*

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E. Harding
8/19/2018 11:09:35 pm

"And American media eat up Russia’s fake claims."

No. You eat up American (Jewish) media's fake claims about Russia.

"As Foreign Policy reported in 2016, Vladimir Putin has used organs of the Russian state to promote all manner of pseudoscience with the goal of undermining the notions of truth and reality in the name of discrediting Western science."

No. The Russian government is simply incompetent.

"The fourth segment describes Russia before Vladimir Putin as “a hellhole,” which basically serves to endorse Putin’s rule"

You deny this?

"which is just a step removed from openly endorsing political collusion with a hostile foreign power."

Russia isn't hostile to America. America is hostile to Russia. Cooperation between the two countries is good. You deny this?

"After all, Ancient Aliens does not make the same effort with China, or India, or any of the other world powers."

Because they don't fight wars. Russia does.

BTW I've been reading this blog for half a decade, due to its sound rebuttals to pseudohistorians. Its ready acceptance of mainstream media lies about U.S.-Russian relations makes me much more willing to unsubscribe.

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Americanegro
8/19/2018 11:25:44 pm

E. Harding: "BTW I've been reading this blog for half a decade, due to its sound rebuttals to pseudohistorians."

"[Jason:] 'After all, Ancient Aliens does not make the same effort with China, or India, or any of the other world powers.'

[E. Harding:] Because they don't fight wars."

You might want to read a newspaper once in a while.

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Joe Scales
8/20/2018 01:02:01 pm

" BTW I've been reading this blog for half a decade, due to its sound rebuttals to pseudohistorians. Its ready acceptance of mainstream media lies about U.S.-Russian relations makes me much more willing to unsubscribe."

Good. Now you can get back to your more anti-Semitic undertakings.

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Americanegro
8/21/2018 08:22:05 pm

Noted with interest:
In this age of Trump, while on the campaign trail Trump said the following:

" When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

The day after he said that an illegal immigrant with a gun murdered a woman in San Francisco. The day after he said it.

For those who believe Gary Condit is innocent, an illegal immigrant, Ingmar Guandique, murdered Chandra Levy.

It now appears that an illegal immigrant murdered 20 year old Mollie Tibbets in Iowa. That's right folks, illegals murdering hot college students in America's heartland.

In this age of Trump.

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Joe Scales
8/22/2018 10:18:23 am

"The day after he said that an illegal immigrant with a gun murdered a woman in San Francisco."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70Ww1crg078

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Americanegro
8/23/2018 08:58:00 pm

I would say "In this age of Trump" but this li'l fella came during that age of Obama, and...wait for it America...illegally. This from the New York Times:

"After Josue Portillo crossed into the United States illegally in 2015, he settled on Long Island and sought to join the same gang — MS-13 — that was terrorizing his hometown in El Salvador. On April 11, 2017, authorities say he took part in executing four young Latino men in the woods behind a Central Islip, N.Y., soccer field, a sensational crime that drew national attention and became a rallying cry in President Trump’s crackdown on illegal immigration.

Mr. Portillo, now 17, pleaded guilty on Monday to federal racketeering charges and for his role in the four murders, according to prosecutors. Authorities initially charged him as a juvenile in July 2017, along with nine other gang members or associates, in the murder of the four young men: Justin Llivicura, Michael Lopez Banegas, Jefferson Villalobos and Jorge Tigre.

But even though Mr. Portillo was just shy of 16 years old at the time of the killings, the judge in the case decided that he should be charged as an adult because of the severity of the crime. Mr. Portillo, Judge Joseph F. Bianco, of District Court in Central Islip, said, was charged with “four heinous, premeditated murders” and posed a danger to the community."

"[T]hey're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

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justanotherskeptic
8/27/2018 02:40:41 pm

Can't we all just get along?

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Americanegro
8/27/2018 03:42:24 pm

Said no murder victim ever while being murdered.

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Joseph Waters link
10/14/2018 12:06:41 am

As a leftist I find this Russiagate nonsense to be very upsetting. It's pretty strange that the American far fight are embracing Russia, while what passes for a so-called left (really just moderate conservative liberals) are the most ferociously anti-Russian.

I don't have a great fondness for Russia's government or its capitalist system, but to single out Russia for abuse over and above humanity's number one enemy - the American Empire - is beyond absurd.

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Vlad the commenter
12/15/2018 10:49:41 pm

I see the trolls are here in their various disguises and aliases. The problem for them is that it IS possible to trot out and show tit for tat, examples of Russia dominated USSR undermining of democracy and freedom ( all accomplishments of the SU aside) their engaging in the nuclear arms war, bring ing about the possible destruction of the planet along with the USA is a GREAT example. They could have said "screw that " we are not going to compete, we are going to flourish and show by example. Let's look at my theory. I will bet that History channel viewership explodes after Hannity goes off air. Diversity on the History channel? Actual HISTORY on the history channel? It is obvious that this channel has morphed into a subtle renforcer of the 40, 50, 60 year old white fringe republican imagined lifestyle. AA being part of the conspiracy laden, "Your government is keeping secrets " programming thru many iteration. You don't see this programming and message in Russia. And the Trolls here, I invite them to , just for shits and giggles go to Russia and start hating on Putin the way they do in service to their master on Hillary. No matter what semi racist or other alias they use they always give themselves away by resorting to the SAME Russia apologist arguments over and over and over These just happen to be Russia's signature talking points. After all, with Russia offering asylum to white South Africans ( supporting right wing and white supremacist groups worldwide while at the same time trying to dominate eastern orthodox christendom as it invades Ukraine, Georgia etc ( watch .. I used the rhetorical RAID!! that the troll russia roaches can't RESIT responding to ...
so expect a flurry of indignation and vitriol that exposes the true inner Russian patriot in all of these supposedly "American trolls in ; 3.. 2 1... ) I see a pattern here and it is not alien, it is part of that soft and subtile grey ( not aliens ) propaganda that has been part of the information war that Igor Panarin has written so many books on waging. "The only country that would EVER use the term "American Empire in 2018 is Russia and why? Because the entrance of their rich and powerful into the western financial world that is dominated by the strategic reserve icon, the US dollar, frustrates them at every turn whenever they try to push their neighbors around. Too bad they didnt have the balls that China did to turn their economy into an industrial and consumer product world class factory. They make nice looking fighter jets and vacuum tubes. But there isn't much of a world market for birch bark juice comrades. The US has an "empire" because ,despite it's shortcomings, it IS an IDEA powerhouse that EVERYONE wants to either join or compete against. Sure Dima Bilan is a cool singer but you guys just don't have "it" outside of the Russian speaking world. Rather than embarking on this typical "planed destruction of the USA "3.0 bullshit, you need to get your acts together ( smart people Russians) and JUST DO BETTER. Start with making world class airliners and maglev trains etc. China is turning you into a light weight.

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