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Review of Ancient Aliens S13E12 "They Came from the Sky"

8/24/2018

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​Two centuries ago, there were still scientists who doubted that rocks could fall from the sky. It was a matter of grave interest for several decades until it was finally discovered that meteors existed and that such rocks—known then as aerolites—could fall from the heavens and reach the earth below. It took until the 1860s for scientists to establish a consensus that meteors not only fell from the sky but originated in outer space, rather than from the ejecta of volcanoes or other earthlier explanations. Surprisingly, however, it took a very short time for antiquarians to begin suggesting that famous rocks from history were cosmic in origin. The Rev. Basil Henry Cooper, writing in 1867, correctly intuited that the Egyptians made use of meteoric iron, a fact not confirmed archaeologically for half a century. In a paper delivered in 1895, Arthur Harvey spoke about “Aerolites and Religion” and declared that “It would be surprising if in the earlier ages of the world men had not seen in the meteorite not merely a message from the gods but a messenger, a very god himself.” He concluded, most likely correctly, that many ancient divine statues and sacred rocks said to have fallen from heaven were meteors, such as the black stone at the corner of the Kaaba, the divine black stone of Emesa (modern Homs) in Syria, and many other examples besides.
​Given the obvious connection between meteorites and religion, it was hardly surprising that the decline in religious sentiment led to two different efforts to associates meteorites with the divine in a world that was increasingly scientific and secular. As given above, scientists saw the connection rationally, as a case where a natural phenomenon inspired worship. But a number of popular writers and fraudsters kept the old association of space rocks with the gods but replaced deities with their secular counterparts, space aliens. A number of newspaper articles in the late nineteenth century claimed that space rocks contained messages from Mars or other planets, written by space aliens. In some cases, these were fanciful interpretations of natural markings on meteorites, and in others, like the famous 1897 case of “Prof.” MacDonald’s “message from Mars,” the whole thing was a hoax—but one that alleged that the Martians wrote in hieroglyphics resembling those of Egypt!
 
This is a long way of saying that the topic of this episode of Ancient Aliens is not just old news, but also yet another modern television riff on Victorian scholarship in the service of trying to improve upon the wonders of nature by electroplating it with pseudo-divine fool’s gold.
 Segment 1
The episode opens in Winslow, Arizona where what it says is North America’s largest crater, the Barringer Crater, testifies to a massive meteoric impact 50,000 years ago. It is not actually the largest, just the best preserved. (They probably got the false fact from a Google search, since a web article that shows up in the highlight box falsely says it is the largest.) The narrator gravely warns that a large enough meteor impacts can be more devastating than a nuclear war. Travis Taylor from Rocket City Rednecks claims that meteors and asteroids can be used to artificially terraform a planet with targeted impacts, or by using an asteroid as a spacecraft by attaching an engine to it. Naturally, the “ancient astronaut theorists” believe that space aliens have been using asteroids to travel the universe for thousands of years.
 
After this, the show tells the story of the 1902 discovery of largest known meteorite in the U.S., the Willamette meteorite, weighing 15 tons. (It’s not even close in size to the largest in the world—a 66-ton rock in Namibia.) The various talking heads are fascinated that the local Native Americans saw the meteor as a gift from heaven, though the claim that they had long used the meteor as a divine talisman contradicts the idea that it was buried and unseen until someone dug it up in 1902. The real story is that the Clackamas people of the area had long known about it but a local man recognized it as a meteorite and secretly moved it to his own land to claim ownership.  The Clackamas fought for its return for decades, until finally an agreement with the museum now holding it allowed it remain on public display provided that the Clackamas could conduct a ceremony annually. They will also get the meteor back should the museum where it is now housed ever close. Ancient Aliens ignores all of these complex legal and political problems and instead tells us that Native people, being primitive tape recorders of proto-historical events, knew that the meteor was a secret rocket ship that tiny space aliens flew to Earth.
​Segment 2
The second segment reports the very stupid article published this spring in an academic journal claiming that octopuses are space aliens whose genetic code traveled to Earth aboard a meteor. As should be clear to anyone, octopuses share much in common with other non-octopus creatures, like squid, cuttlefish, the other mollusks, etc. They are therefore not space aliens. But this leads to a familiar discussion of the theory of panspermia, the idea that space rocks could bring the organic compounds needed to create life to other planets, or to this one. It’s a distinct possibility, but one that needn’t necessarily involve space aliens to direct the meteors to our planet. There is no evidence that Earth life originated on a meteor, but it can’t yet be ruled out. Even if it were the case, however, it is a poor substitute for the original claim of Ancient Aliens—that space aliens flew to Earth and genetically engineered humanity. Instead, they now prefer to see Earth as a sort of “Chia Pet of the Gods,” where the aliens seeded the planet with life from afar, and only paid attention to it after it sprouted.
 
The segment also tells the story of the Aztec creation myth, which I have posted in my Library. It involves a “knife” full of godlings falling from the sky, in a story that the Christian missionary who recorded it immediately likened to the fall of the angels in Genesis 6:4. The story as we have it today is probably contaminated by Christian influence since it was recorded by a Catholic cleric from a version told by Aztecs who had converted to Catholicism. As with other stories from ancient Mexico, the versions given by the Spanish missionaries were hybrids of genuine traditions and Catholic teachings, and it is not always easy to separate the two.
​Segment 3
The third segment describes the Black Rock of the Kaaba, which has long been assumed to be a meteorite (at least since the nineteenth century), though it has never been tested to prove it one way or another. William Henry claims that Gabriel, the angel said to have brought the stone to Earth, was an “otherworldly being,” and David Childress adds that “extraterrestrials” were responsible for delivering the stone, which he and the narrator say was a radio receiver for delivering messages to Muhammad. Once again, the show alleges that Muslims are accidentally worshiping space aliens. The segment briefly mentions the omphalos stone at Delphi as a possible meteor and then returns to hammering home the point that Muslims venerate a meteor as though it were a gift from God.
Segment 4
The fourth segment describes the Asteroid Belt between Earth and Mars and recites the longstanding fringe claim that the asteroid belt is the remains of an exploded planet, a claim not supported by current science. William Henry basically just lies through his teeth by claiming that Mesopotamian “lore” tells us that a planet exploded in the midst of a cosmic battle between the armies of different planets and the survivors came to Earth in the aftermath. There is absolutely nothing like that in the mythology of peoples who literally believed that the Earth was covered in a solid dome and that that planets were tiny little lights that spun around under this dome. This is just warmed-over Zecharia Sitchin with a side of outright lies.
 
After this the show discusses the Hypatia Stone, which is a meteorite that hit the Earth after arriving from outside the solar system, as evidenced by its unusual ratios of elements. The talking heads, including David Childress, can’t fathom that a rock from deep space might hit Earth, so they suggest that the rock was purposely aimed at the Earth by extraterrestrials, though Childress confesses that he can’t imagine why space aliens would do this, especially since he argues every week that they are literally coming to Earth from other galaxies all the freakin’ time and could easily bring their goddamn stupid pet rocks with them and just hand them to the people they keep abducting from their bedrooms.
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Aliens sure do like doing things the hard way. Imagine aiming a tiny, tiny stone at the Earth from another galaxy and waiting thousands of years or more for it to hit, with all the math involved and all the worry that it could be deflected from its course, when you are popping by through worm holes every other day and could just drop it off.
 Segment 5
The fifth segment notes that some meteorites have superconductors which can cause the rock to levitate in the presence of strong electric and magnetic fields. Travis Taylor, the Rocket City redneck, claims that meteors containing such superconductors are artificial and fragments of an alien space probe. Apparently, Taylor has learned how to take his minor science celebrity and turn it into cash. The segment also discusses a Russian meteorite containing a quasicrystal, a matrix that resembles the structure of a crystal but never repeats itself, or more technically, it lacks translational symmetry. Childress tells us that the quasicrystals might be a secret computer storage drive full of alien records, though he has no idea how one might test such an idea. He might also have stopped to consider that he said in past episodes that all the information known to space aliens exists in the immaterial Akashic Record from which aliens beam it directly into our brains, so what do they need these quasicrystals for?
​Segment 6
The sixth and final segment looks at the old question of whether aliens use self-replicating robots to explore other worlds before visiting themselves. Ancient astronaut theorists suggest that aliens actually used meteors full of DNA to terraform planets, creating biological robots—i.e., us—and we are therefore “manipulated” by alien DNA, as Childress puts it, and he lusts for the day when we slaves can “meet our creators.” Taylor says that all of this “makes perfect sense,” and you get the sense that he is counting the days until his guest slot on the show can make him a fixture on the lucrative paranormal speaking circuit. The show never quite, though, made the case that aliens were necessary to explain anything about meteors, and to an extent, the aliens were grafted on to a show that was really trying to be about space exploration but lacked the intellectual firepower to understand its own subject.
36 Comments
Hal
8/24/2018 10:16:44 pm

I’ve noted fake Hal’s posting. The first sentence of this blog is word-for-word plagiarized. The rest of the blog is fluff.

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Machala
8/24/2018 10:53:33 pm

PROVE IT !

I notice you're great at spurious attacks on Jason and his blog and make scurrilous, and seemingly libelous accusations without one iota of documentation to back it up. As they say in Arizona, you're all hat, and NO horse !

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An Anonymous Nerd
8/25/2018 07:26:34 am

[The first sentence of this blog is word-for-word plagiarized]

Google offers no support for this statement. Technically neither have you, you just asserted it.

-An Anonymous Nerd

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Hal
8/25/2018 01:26:49 pm

Brad Steiger—From the sky. Fate Magazine 1975, v 28 n 3, 44-51.

Mikel
8/25/2018 02:27:33 pm

Well, Hal is right but he has the issue number wrong. I have a complete set of Fate and the first sentence of both are identical. Steiger’s 1977 Time Life book Mysteries of the Unexplained also uses it.

Jason Colavito link
8/25/2018 02:38:00 pm

That would be an amazing coincidence, but not an impossible one, since I have never read either Fate or the 1977 Time-Life book. Generally, it's not likely for more than six words in a row to overlap by coincidence, but it does happen from time to time, particularly when the phrasing is common. My sentence originated in my recollection of Joel Achenbach's "Captured by Aliens," which reads: "During the nineteenth century, many scientists doubted that meteorites were, in fact, of extraterrestrial origin (the favorite history-of-science story among ufologists). Rocks fall from the sky? Preposterous!" You can see where my summary reflects the source. What an odd coincidence!

AdmericanEZReader
8/25/2018 10:59:40 pm

The passage in question: "​Two centuries ago, there were still scientists who doubted that rocks could fall from the sky."

Achenbach's passage: "During the nineteenth century, many scientists doubted that meteorites were, in fact, of extraterrestrial origin (the favorite history-of-science story among ufologists). Rocks fall from the sky? Preposterous!"

Jason wrote: "Generally, it's not likely for more than six words in a row to overlap by coincidence, but it does happen from time to time, particularly when the phrasing is common."

"it does happen from time to time" is seven words. Just sayin'.

"Although meteors have been known since ancient times, they were not known to be an astronomical phenomenon until early in the nineteenth century. Prior to that, they were seen in the West as an atmospheric phenomenon, like lightning, and were not connected with strange stories of rocks falling from the sky. In 1807, Yale University chemistry professor Benjamin Silliman investigated a meteorite that fell in Weston, Connecticut.[29] Silliman believed the meteor had a cosmic origin, but meteors did not attract much attention from astronomers until the spectacular meteor storm of November 1833.[30] People all across the eastern United States saw thousands of meteors, radiating from a single point in the sky. Astute observers noticed that the radiant, as the point is now called, moved with the stars, staying in the constellation Leo.[31]

The astronomer Denison Olmsted made an extensive study of this storm, and concluded that it had a cosmic origin. After reviewing historical records, Heinrich Wilhelm Matthias Olbers predicted the storm's return in 1867, which drew the attention of other astronomers to the phenomenon. Hubert A. Newton's more thorough historical work led to a refined prediction of 1866, which proved to be correct.[30] With Giovanni Schiaparelli's success in connecting the Leonids (as they are now called) with comet Tempel-Tuttle, the cosmic origin of meteors was now firmly established."

As you can see that's cut and pasted from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteoroid#History


OOOPS! https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/post-reporter-joel-achenbach-suspended-for-90-days-for-inappropriate-workplace-conduct/2018/01/10/5fae0f4a-f645-11e7-a9e3-ab18ce41436a_story.html?utm_term=.b04abcc2fa46

An Anonymous Nerd
8/26/2018 12:44:39 am

A sincere claim would have given the citation first.

I realize that just spending this much time on it to a great extent buys into the troll's hands but too late now.

Oh well.

-An Anonymous Nerd

Americanegro
8/26/2018 01:02:56 am

Disagree. Hal won this one. You and Machala walked right into it. Notice he specified "the first sentence" which is in fact identical to the one he cited, though he did get the volume number wrong.

Bezalel
8/25/2018 12:00:44 pm

Hal
Read a science book.
Physical Science.
Start with high school level there's no shame in that.

And stop denying you are William Henry.

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Machala
8/25/2018 02:36:25 pm

Jason: "​Two centuries ago, there were still scientists who doubted that rocks could fall from the sky."

HAL: "The first sentence of this blog is word-for-word plagiarized"

MACHALA: "PROVE IT !"

HAL: "Brad Steiger—From the sky. Fate Magazine 1975, v 28 n 3, 44-51."

HAL, Hal, hal...we're going to start calling you Chief Walking Eagle - you're so full of shit that you can't fly !
Did you think people were to lazy to research your fictitious "proof of plagiarism" ? .Nice try but NO cigar, pal !

Mikel
8/25/2018 06:03:25 pm

Huh? I accept what Jason says. Nothing else in the article matches.

Americanegro
8/24/2018 11:40:27 pm

"He concluded, correctly, that many ancient divine statues and sacred rocks said to have fallen from heaven were meteors, such as the black stone at the corner of the Kaaba"

While this accords with Muslim belief, the conclusion is in no way correct if it is meant to imply that the Black Stone was meteoric in origin. The Black Stone predates the birth of the Prophet, peanut butter be upon him, as does its insertion into the Kaaba. It has never been _adequately_ examined.

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Kal
8/25/2018 12:42:56 pm

"Starship Troopers" bug aliens launched asteroids from another solar system to ours to invade it, which seemed kind of a waste of fuel and weaponry, when there was a belt of them handy closer by. It was a book long before it was a movie series.

"Ender's Game", same thing.It also was a book series long before the movie.

"Star Blazers" same thing, but radioactive ones, for some reason. It was Space Battleship Yamato, but redubbed in the US in the 70s. (But they were probably taking the idea from similar stories).

In Star Blazers, it was another galaxy even. that the aliens came from, but chalk that up to the cartoonists and writers just not knowing science enough to just say solar system. They had to be from another galaxy. Don't know why.

Then in Star Gate, the aliens were proto Egyptians. Seems the people doing that movie, and shows, was influenced by the precursor to AA, such as the works of EVD.

These are scifi and are not reality, but AA is also scifi.






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Weatherwax
10/18/2018 06:40:25 pm

In Monty Python, giant blamanges from the planet Skyron in the Andromeda Galaxy came to and started turning everyone into Scotsmen in a convoluted plan to win Wimbolton. Scotsmen being renowned as the worst tennis players on Earth

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Peter B
8/25/2018 05:12:47 pm

"The second segment reports the very stupid article published this spring in an academic journal claiming that octopuses are space aliens whose genetic code traveled to Earth aboard a meteor."

Jason, you provide no link or reference, so I'm led to wonder if "spring" here doesn't mean 1 April? Can you confirm/deny?

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Andy White
8/25/2018 05:34:49 pm

Here is a link to the paper, I think: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0079610718300798?via%3Dihub

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Crash55
8/25/2018 07:47:03 pm

I looked briefly at the paper and the journal. It is a review paper - it summarizes other papers instear of presenting new evidence. Also the authors had to pay to have it available to the public immediately after publication. From the parts I read it appears to be a bunch of like minded academics doing a literature search to back up what they claim. There no new claims and even the authors admit that most of the proposed evidence has been discounted by others as contaminated samples

An Anonymous Nerd
8/26/2018 12:58:16 am

Here is a neat refutation:

https://www.popsci.com/octopus-aliens

It is noted that the authors aren't specialists in zoology and didn't seem to want to do the basic readings in the field they were addressing. An all-too-common malady.

-An Anonymous Nerd

pimm
8/25/2018 05:14:39 pm

where s the docu WTF is is shit

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An Anonymous Nerd
8/26/2018 12:57:14 am

I suspect the Rocket City Redneck was tricked into saying at least some of this. As described it has the feel of "can't you just say it's possible?" "Fine!"

The "seeding the universe" thing seems to be taken from, or at minimum depressingly similar to, a "Star Trek: The Next Generation" episode. I really wish folks would stop trying to steal cool nerd fiction and pretend it somehow was real.

Ultimately, as described the most consequential thing about this episode is that it allowed one of Mr. Colavito's critics to claim Mr. Colavito's opening line was too-similar to something written by a paranormal/UFO writer in the 1970s; and we got to see another dude with a doctorate misusing it in the service of unsupportable notions.

But, then, that's close to normal for the show.

-An Anonymous Nerd

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Americanegro
8/26/2018 01:42:23 pm

The claim wasn't that it was "too-similar" it was that it was "word for word identical."

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Bob Jase
8/27/2018 12:17:06 pm

"Two centuries ago, there were still scientists who doubted that rocks could fall from the sky."

Technically rocks don't fall from the sky, they fall through the sky from space beyond.

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Americanegro
8/27/2018 01:00:02 pm

Please to be telling us where the sky begins and ends. Are the sun, moon, and stars not in the sky Grasshopper?

Technically my black ass.

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GodricGlas
8/27/2018 07:12:59 pm

“The second segment reports the very stupid article published this spring”

I’ve been dying of laughter inside for days now over this piece of comedic gold.

It’s hard, too, because I can’t really share the humor with anyone but the denizens of this blog.

So. Goddamned funny!

😂😂😂

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Joe Scales
8/27/2018 07:36:48 pm

Good luck trying to share humor with the denizens of this blog. I waste some of my best material here...

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Americanegro
8/27/2018 10:37:08 pm

I'm old school, still use a tube sock.

JOE SCALES
8/27/2018 11:50:14 pm

That must look funny when you’re power bottoming.

Americanegro
8/28/2018 12:15:16 am

It is better to feel good than to look good!

Joe Scales
8/28/2018 10:11:53 am

Looks like I've got an impersonator now as well. "Power bottoming"... very low brow. Even for me.

GodricGlas
8/27/2018 11:46:09 pm

😃

Wadda you mean?

Like, I’m your puppet show?

What does that mean?

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GodricGlas
8/28/2018 12:29:51 am

Damn this iPhone,

I meant, “in a puppet show”.

#n thing totally ruined my stupid joke.

Anyways.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J0RTD7250II

GodricGlas
8/28/2018 12:36:13 am

Hey!

Both of you quit bickering or I’ll send you both out to get a switch.

Alright then!

Jaysus.

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Kal
8/28/2018 03:11:17 pm

It's a blog, not a journalism class. If he wants to crib quotes from sources, no professor will dismiss his paper as a fraud. Although it it was a class, he would lose credit for the article, as it does use unconfirmed citations.

It's not though.

Why does the discourse typical of this blog degrade into talking about forms of fetish? Such high brow maturity.

I have also found better comebacks on reddit and old usenet.

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Money
9/1/2018 08:31:08 am

Over the years this show has gotten slower and stupider. That being said, I still watch it because they mention archaeological sites and artifacts I've never heard of and when I hear about them, I go and look them up for myself. I don't know if I would've ever heard of Gobekli & Puma Punku without the show.

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Ceisen
10/19/2018 10:52:03 pm

My husband loves this show. Mostly for how ridiculous it is. Now whenever we don’t know how something came about we both know the answer is “Ancient Aliens”.

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