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Review of Ancient Aliens S16E06 "William Shatner Meets Ancient Aliens"

2/12/2021

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In recent interviews, William Shatner claims that he is agnostic on the question of ancient astronauts, or even skeptical of some of the ancient astronaut theorists’ claims. That wasn’t always the case. Almost 45 years ago, Shatner at least pretended to be an enthusiastic ancient astronaut theorist when he stepped into the shoes of the late Rod Serling to serve as host of Mysteries of the Gods—“as incredible as Star Trek”—a film adaptation of Erich von Däniken’s book Miracles of the Gods and a follow-up to the various film versions of Chariots of the Gods, including Serling’s In Search of Ancient Astronauts. Shatner’s former Star Trek colleague Leonard Nimoy was also subbing for Serling on In Search of…, the television continuation of In Search of Ancient Astronauts, and the most successful of von Däniken’s various intellectual offspring.
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Now, a lifetime later—literally longer than my entire lifetime!—Shatner has returned to von Däniken’s bosom for a two-hour special in which the host of The UnXplained crosses over to his fellow Prometheus Entertainment production, Ancient Aliens, a show also based (officially at least) on Chariots of the Gods. In this two-hour special, Shatner quizzes the show’s regular cast of talking heads about a range of topics related to aliens, science, technology, and futurism. It’s a cheap effort to squeeze a little more life out of two fading franchises whose ratings have stubbornly hovered under the one million viewer mark without having to do too much original research or location filming.
 
The spectacle took on a bit of a surreal air. The night before, Farhad Manjoo, a New York Times opinion columnist, published a column in the paper claiming that Avi Loeb’s new book about space aliens was “dazzling” and endorsing the frequent cry from science’s discontents that the scientific project is a repressive mechanism to stifle the imagination. The very day this episode aired, von Däniken himself tweeted (in German) that he had watched an Ancient Aliens episode about Nazca and was shocked that it was filled with “pseudo-experts” talking “nonsense.” He is a consulting producer on Ancient Aliens. We live in strange times.

Sah eine Sendung von ANCIENT ALIENS über Nazca/Peru. Unglaublich, was für Pseudo Experten für einen Quatsch über Nazca erzählen! Und wie selbst in diesem Kanal die wirklichen Rätsel, die <Pisten> nicht gezeigt und behandelt werden. Hallooo. Ich hätte hunderte von Bildern davon.

— Erich von Däniken (@vonDaeniken) February 12, 2021
A two-hour panel discussion with the usual talking heads, all men—Giorgio Tsoukalos, Nick Pope, William Henry, David Childress, and the various lesser lights (the only woman, Linda Moulton Howe, joins briefly by video chat near the end)—doesn’t really lend itself to a point-by-point description. Shatner poses open-ended questions, the heads make some general claims, throw in a few anecdotes supplemented by narrator Robert Clotworthy speaking over b-roll, and basically it turns into a clip show in which bits and pieces of old episodes are recycled as a primer for Shatner, pretending to be ignorant, though as we’ve seen he literally made a movie about the same material. By setting this up as a discussion to try to convince Shatner that aliens visited earth, the show allows itself to return to its simplest and earliest claims, but it means that the arguments much lazier and more familiar than most of its repetitive late-season baroque mythology. Parts of the episode contain claims the show made in its pilot episode back in 2009. Some of this episode’s material is the same as last episode, including the segment on the Book of Enoch. It’s hard to find anything new to say that sixteen seasons of my debunking hasn’t already covered.
 
The group wrongly claim the racist old von Däniken (“Was the black race a failure?” he once asked, before speculating that aliens “programmed” whites to replace them) invented the ancient astronaut theory. He blatantly copied from earlier writers, but the show happily lets von Däniken repeat his usual spiel about how he supposedly discovered the idea on his own, despite the evidence that he copied from Robert Charroux, Louis Pauwels, and Jacques Bergier. The usual spiel about God and the gods being aliens and heaven being outer space is rehearsed, but there is nothing that would suggest this to be the case except imagination. After all, many of the gods of old lived in caves, or underwater, or on mountains. Relatively few were in the sky, and there is no reason to pretend everything follows a Judeo-Christian model. Von Däniken never really gets beyond claiming that any myth that talks about the sky must be about space aliens, and the producers don’t let his discussion of aliens genetically manipulating us touch on his two favorite topics, sexuality and race (he argues in his books that aliens have sex with people and breed “chosen” races that way), leaving his analysis even less coherent than usual. Even Shatner doesn’t quite buy it, though in pretending to ask von Däniken for proof of his claims, he never quite presses him to go beyond generalizations.
 
When von Däniken leaves, the panel turns to a new topic, one discussed regularly on Ancient Aliens: Whether humans could lift heavy blocks without the need for alien super-technology. They can. Always have. Lots of people, ropes, and levers can do wonders. The talking heads aren’t always clear about what they are discussing, and it seems that viewers are expected to already be familiar with many of the claims. They bounce, for example, from Abydos in Egypt to Baalbek in Lebanon to Ollantaytambo in Peru, a jumble of cross-talk, b-roll, and random assertions that humans can’t move of shape rocks without alien help. The heads assert, based on various false ideas from the 1990s, that various buildings and monuments date back to ten thousand BCE, and then they discuss one actually that old, Göbekli Tepe, and falsely assert, again, that only an “advance civilization” could build a stone building and therefore the evidence that hunter-gatherers built the site must be fraudulent.
 
The next topic is another evergreen favorite, “advanced technology.” Travis Taylor, from Secret of Skinwalker Ranch and Rocket City Rednecks, suggests that he believes that super-civilizations rose and fell millions or billions of years ago. Shatner claims to be amazed by long-debunked claims about advanced technology that were in the movie he did about this same material decades ago. Clips from previous episodes (including pieces of the 2014 In Search of Aliens spinoff) fill time. It’s all very sad as middle-aged and old men—I believe everyone on this show is older than I am, and I am almost forty—gibbering goofily about silly claims that were laughed at when my parents were young. I mean, seriously: The Dendera “Lightbulb”? Still? Those flower buds really get around. The “levitating stone” myths? You might as well take comic books for encyclopedias.
 
As we head into the second hour, we head into Great Pyramid mysteries. Since I will be publishing a book on the subject this summer, I am a bit of an expert on these legends, and I know that the stories that the talking heads claim are Erich von Däniken’s conclusions are in reality nineteenth century explications of medieval Arabic-language legends, misappropriated from Late Antique stories originally applied to Egyptian temples and New Kingdom tombs. Giorgio Tsoukalos misidentifies the claim that the Great Pyramid is 12,000 years old as the work of “some archaeologists” when in fact it was the claim of journalist Graham Hancock and engineer Robert Bauval, ultimately derived, in a roundabout way, from medieval Arabic-language claims that the pyramids predated Noah’s Flood. The talking heads rehearse Zecharia Sitchin’s false claim that Col. Vyse, in 1837, faked Khufu’s name in the Great Pyramid to try to make the pyramid postdate the Flood. The show does not note that we possess a papyrus from an official who built the pyramid describing the construction effort and attributing it to Khufu. A bunch of nineteenth-century lies from Charles Piazzi Smyth—including the silly claim that that pyramid is at the “center” of the earth’s landmass (it’s not!)—are presented as though they were “new” revelations.
 
Physicist Michio Kaku long ago sold his soul to Ancient Aliens, knowingly contributing to its lies and deceptions to stroke his ego and build his lucrative brand. Here, he blatantly says that we need to “keep our minds open” to the ancient astronaut theory, and he endorses the idea that civilizations rose and fell millions or billions of years ago, though it is unclear whether he means on earth or outer space. He offers some science-adjacent talk about how aliens a million years more advanced than us could travel faster than light to visit the earth, citing Star Trek as inspiration and example.
 
As we round the bottom of the second hour, the roundtable discussion moves away from aliens creating humans in a flying saucer lab and instead discusses panspermia, the idea that life came to earth from another planet, perhaps by aliens sending DNA on a space rock. The various talking heads enter into some disagreement here with Nick Pope standing up for natural evolution and the other talking heads debating whether aliens send DNA to earth to spark evolution or genetically engineered humans after natural evolution created pre-humans. All of them, however, have difficulty understanding the problems with teleology and all but Pope are quite certain that there is a specific endpoint humans are destined to reach.

In the last half-hour, the show moves into modern UFO sightings. It rehearses the Roswell Incident—misunderstanding the kind of balloon that sparked the actual incident—and it misstates the content of a 1950 FBI memo (not briefing) about crashed saucers, which actually reported on a hoax then circulating. It did not assert the reality of a crash. As we approach the top of the hour, UFO conspiracies take center stage (with Nick Pope wildly exaggerating his involvement in “investigating” UFOs for the U.K. government), with Shatner wondering why there should be a conspiracy and everyone else claiming at some level that the government is hiding something—but what, they can’t say. The New York Times stories about the Pentagon’s UFO programs are discussed—though ultimately, via To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science, this was a product of the same constellation of people who are also tied to the History Channel and its ilk. They’re all connected. The recent Congressional order to the Pentagon to create a UFO task force, legislation lobbied for by then-members of To the Stars (something Ancient Aliens omits), is discussed.

The show ends with Tsoukalos and the others agreeing that Ancient Aliens is an important part of the so-called disclosure process. I will actually agree with that. Disclosure is a fantasy created by passionate believers in unreal things, and Ancient Aliens has certainly been a part fueling the culture of conspiracy that surrounds that fantasy. Shatner calls the ancient astronaut theorists people of “education” and “intelligence,” so we fade out on solid laugh line.
23 Comments
The Rooster
2/13/2021 01:07:09 am

"...silly claim".

I'll bite.

Dudeman Capt. J?

That was remarkable! Stunning deconstruction. This is why we count on you.

But 1 thing you are not allowed to do? Is kill Star Trek.

Unless you'd like to crawl up Roddenberry's butt with a microscope. Have at it.

Geez? Your really good at this. I mean, great V-day post; broken-hearted and simultaneously encouraged.

You are a mutant.

❤️

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The Rooster
2/13/2021 01:15:08 am

Reading that was, and is, as much fun as watching this:


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5qanlirrRWs


I live on RTE 66. 👍

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Martin Stower
2/13/2021 10:37:12 am

Which talking heads recited the Vyse myth this time?

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Crash55
2/13/2021 12:52:20 pm

I actually liked the episode because it put all the corps crazy ideas on one nice compact package. As I was watching it I was pretty much debunking it in real time.

The astrophysicist guy needs to get a refund on his degree as he obviously is missing some very basic principles of physics / engineering. The story of the rocket test breaking loose is clearly a case of exciting the natural frequencies of the structure.

The b roll of Tsoukalos pointing out the precise holes and channel was rather funny. All you need to do the layout is some string / plumb bob to get the very vertical line. Premarked string or stick to get the spacing and depth gage to get the same depth. If I was using a modern drill you can do it with a bit of masking tape on the drill. Nothing fancy required just pre-planning, patience and skill

As for the government coverups, the government just isn’t that good. Too many people talk and the exciting the topic the more the desire to tell someone.

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Doc rock
2/13/2021 02:11:28 pm

The ancient aliens loved earth women and the contemporary aliens anal probe men and steal their semen. Are we talking two different groups of aliens or did the ancient legends just leave out the probing and semen theft?



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The Rooster
2/13/2021 11:44:55 pm

I'm so sorry to intrude.

^^

But that has me dying of laughter. 😅😅😅

That's terrifically funny!!!

❤️

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Martin Stower
2/13/2021 02:59:08 pm

Two things hilarious here: the Vyse recitation is put in the mouth of that master intellect of our time, David Hatcher Childress, and they rip off Scott Creighton, “borrowing” one of his copyright falsehoods without so much as mentioning him.

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TONY S.
2/15/2021 11:11:47 pm

Mr.Stower:

I’ve spent some of my leisure time the last few months reading through some old threads on the GHMB. I especially enjoy your threads and comments regarding Scott Creighton and his baseless slander of Howard Vyse. Your rebuttals to him are masterful... full of factual information that exposes his ignorance of ancient Egypt as a whole and the facts surrounding Vyse in particular. I’m sure I speak for many lurkers who consider it a job well done. I also enjoy your replies to posters like Femano, Ellison, Petry.

You and posters like eyeofhorus333, DScriber, sfbey and Thanos5150 make it a rewarding experience. Thanos5150 in particular I wish I could message, I am fascinated by his research and am constantly re-reading his many threads.

I currently do not have a PC and cannot sign on to the message board thru my phone for some reason, which is why I am telling you this here.

Keep up the great work, be assured it is appreciated by many of us.

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Martin Stower
2/16/2021 02:48:38 pm

Good to know that it was not entirely wasted effort. Thanks.

All of my posts on GHMB containing the name “Creighton”:

https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/search.php?0,search=creighton,author=martin+stower,page=1,match_type=ALL,match_dates=0,match_forum=ALL,match_threads=0

Good grief. There are far too many of them.

All of my posts there replying to Scott Creighton directly (or quoting such replies):

https://grahamhancock.com/phorum/search.php?0,search=scott+creighton+wrote,author=martin+stower,page=1,match_type=PHRASE,match_dates=0,match_forum=ALL,match_threads=0

It should only have taken one or two.

Duty requires that I plug the book.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/kindle/series/B07NZ7L86C

https://www.amazon.com/gp/kindle/series/B07NZ7L86C

Lee Anderson (Thanos5150)
3/3/2021 12:37:46 am

Hello Tony. Thank you for the kind and humbling words. Like Martin, nice to know the effort is not entirely wasted. If you ever can sign in at GHMB please feel free to PM me.

TONY S.
1/24/2022 06:44:19 pm

Hi Lee,

Thank you for your generous offer, much appreciated. Talk to you soon brother.

cj van
2/14/2021 03:40:36 pm

Can anyone prove differently

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Martin Stower
2/14/2021 06:45:32 pm

Prove what differently?

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Martin Stower
2/14/2021 06:42:22 pm

Footage of Creighton appears some minutes later, in relation to another daft claim.

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Clete
2/14/2021 10:22:24 pm

I believe that all of the Ancient Aliens talking heads are intelligent, that is if you add them all together. I mean if add enough numbers together of their collective intelligence then it would amount to something, probably the intelligence of the average carrot.

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Martin Stower
2/15/2021 06:07:08 am

An intellectual carrot. The mind boggles.

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Becky Myers
2/21/2021 09:13:44 am

That's an insult to carrots!!

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Larry storch
2/14/2021 11:20:23 pm

Can anyone explain how in the Star Trek episode “The Deadly Years,” Shatner’s hairline actually moves down lower on his forehead and his hair somehow thickens as he rapidly ages?

http://shatnerstoupee.blogspot.com/2011/03/deadly-years-hd-study.html?m=1

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Pierre Charles Dubreuil link
2/15/2021 09:04:12 am

They forgot to talk about : Brinsley Le Poer Trench, 'The Sky People' written in 1960. And why is it they never talk about the Thor Heyerdahl - Osterinsel / Easter Island 1955-56 expedition where we see the people of Easter Island move and erect a statue ? https://youtu.be/cGrTOYmU9w8

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Martin Stower
2/16/2021 05:26:04 pm

Nor do they mention Desmond Leslie, who wrote earlier—and referenced Blavatsky, a major (but often unacknowledged) influence on all of this.

I think we may take it as given that Ancient Aliens is not strong on intellectual history.

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EdPeterson
2/15/2021 07:40:53 pm

Alway enjoy your analysis of these programs.

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Anthony G.
2/17/2021 02:43:13 am

I first became aware of the ancient astronaut theory in 1979. At that time it consisted of explaining one biblical passage. The sons of God came down, found Earth women fair and forcibly took them as wives. There may have been other facets but this was the gist a 5-year-old was getting. From what I understood, the entire theory sought to explain religions and mythologies. Since that time, this theory has evolved and morphed into a monstrous beast of bullshit. What started out as a somewhat interesting thought turned into a racially motivated campaign of propaganda.

The interpretation of that biblical passage has changed several times over the years too. The meaning of the word fair, went from a doable earthling to a white woman. The sons of god went from looking like all of us to space traveling albinos looking for the ability to tan. Finding white women on Earth, they rounded up every Becky, Karen, Tiffany, and Jennifer making them their wives. Then it turned into white people from the north mating with white people from the south due to aliens influence and direct genetic manipulation.

Personally, I find more evidence for them being astrological tales than stories of actual alien contact. It just took over 30 years due to alterations by true believers and misinterpretations by literalists. I owe a great deal to this blog in sorting out many of the misinterpretations and misidentifications. A great deal of which came from my mythology professor Dr T. One of Jason Colavito's commenters steered me in the right direction, alleviating my mind of several of these misinterpretations and misidentifications. Thank you for the clarification. This has helped immensely in decoding the morphing symbolism of medieval cartography. Before everything was codified into a common set.
Thanks!

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wheelman
2/19/2021 02:24:35 pm

Ya gotta admit, though, Shatner looks good for being almost 90!

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