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Review of Ancient Aliens S18E06: "Secrets of the Star Ancestors"

2/18/2022

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This week, Wired magazine gave Jacques Vallée the glamour treatment, with a glossy profile praising the aging deacon of ufology for his six decades of failure to find the answer to UFOs. Vallée made some mouth noises about “the phenomenon” being too smart for humanity, claiming that the entities purposely embrace humor and absurdity in order to break down humanity’s rational mind. At a certain point, it stops being anything even science-adjacent and instead becomes an expression of philosophy and faith. Vallée admits that his UFO obsession originated in an adolescent interest—but of course—and Wired treated far more respectfully than you’d think his bizarre claim from last year that the U.S. government recovered an avocado-shaped UFO staffed by miniature space aliens in 1945. His image makeover as grand master of science and worthy future recipient of government patronage is a rather amazing turnaround from a man denounced as dotty and past-his-prime by his own ufology colleagues just last year. 
​Oh, well. It’s all like that now. No one’s ideas are too ridiculous, or too divorced from science, not to be hailed as heroism in our anti-rational culture.
 
Speaking of which…
 
Segment 1
This episode of Ancient Aliens is about Native Americans, and it starts by telling us that we don’t know much about Native people prior to Columbus. It starts by discussing Cahokia, the largest Mississippian city, and it’s evident that the writers of Ancient Aliens both gained their own ideas of Native prehistory from 1960s TV shows and assume that their audience’s knowledge is trapped in the 1960s as well. They think their audience thinks of Native Americans as characters from a Western—Plains Indians in their teepees and feathered headdresses. Struggling to find something to say about Cahokia that connects to aliens, they try to argue that the famous bird man iconography of the Mississippians refers to, somehow, both aliens and spaceships at the same time. They can’t quite decide if the bird man is meant to be an alien astronaut or a spaceship. That’s because they aren’t thinking very hard. David Childress even calls it “the bird man culture.”
 
The usual claims about deities associated with the sky or stars are necessarily space aliens, and every Native person who has ever identified gods with aliens on this show returns to again demote their deities from divine to biological. No effort is made to distinguish between stories that were told before European contact and those that took on an alien inflection in the twentieth century. As I’ve mentioned before, some oral tales transformed under the influence of movies, the Apollo program, and even Chariots of the Gods-style books in the twentieth century, with modern tellers of the stories recasting traditional material in modern terms.
 
Segment 2
The second segment describes, in somewhat mixed up terms, the collapse of the Ancestral Puebloan cultures around 1200 CE, which the show frames in 1960s style—as the “disappearance” of people they alternately refer to as Anasazi or Pueblos. Then the show alleges that the gods depicted in Kachina dolls were space aliens, and that mythological beings depicted in Native rock art are, again, space aliens. Tsoukalos and William Henry go to visit rock art at Rock Art Ranch in Winslow, Arizona. The men gawk at a picture of what appears to be a woman giving birth, and they wonder how Europeans, Japanese, and Native Americans all thought to make pictures of women giving birth. Baffling! The claims about halos and helmets representing spacesuits are familiar to anyone who has watched Ancient Aliens in the past decade, or read an ancient astronaut book since the 1950s.
 
Segment 3
The third segment continues the adventures of Tsoukalos and Henry staring at rock art and claiming that they are “Grey aliens” and other species of space visitor, that patterns indicate Anunnaki influence, that shamanic antler headdresses are “energy rays,” and that geometric shapes represent DNA and other advanced science. That’s a lot to read into stick figures, swirls, and spirals whose original meaning and context is largely lost. Tsoukalos argues that ancient people had “impeccable powers of observation” because, lacking TV and the internet, “that’s all they did all day,” and being lazy layabouts who had nothing to do but sit and stare, they naturally lacked imagination and drew only what they saw.
​Segment 4
After a potted history of Pueblo kivas, the fourth segment returns to an old favorite, the Ant Men from the previous ages of creation. Ant Men, or Ant People, have been a regular recurring species on Ancient Aliens since at least 2014. The show claims that the ant people are “humanoid” and small “extraterrestrials.” I went into the nitty-gritty of the story years ago, but the short version of it is that the Ant People sci-fi legend given on Ancient Aliens is a late development. Historically, the “ant people” were merely ants who had the power of speech, like animals in myths and legends the world over. They only became insectoid aliens in later twentieth century retellings of traditional material.
 
Segment 5
For no good reason, the fifth segment recounts the sinking of Atlantis and tries to compare it to the end of the third world by flood in Hopi mythology. I won’t belabor the point, but the similarities they see are due to the general similarity of all flood punishment narratives and the specific influence of the Near East flood myths on both, from the Babylonian version on Plato to the Biblical one on late versions of Hopi stories. Then the show tries to claim that the Aztec mythical homeland of Aztlan was Atlantis, mostly because the names sound sort of the same. A mixed-up discussion tries to claim Tenochtitlan, the Aztec capital, built on an island and cut through with canals was a model of Aztlan and therefore Atlantis, though none of that is part of any early record of Aztec myths about Aztlan. The show then compares all of this to Noah’s Flood and the Enochian Watchers before suggesting that similarities in myth around the world aren’t due to coincidence or contamination but global knowledge of a real flood induced by angry ETs.
 
Segment 6
The final segment describes UFO sightings on Native reservations and claims Natives have a special connection to flying saucers due to their spirituality. And here I thought the show had previously argued, just a few weeks ago, that nuclear radiation attracted UFOs, not spiritual purity. The show ends with the usual pablum about humans being star seeds spiritually entwined with divine space aliens, who will somehow transform and save us all.
20 Comments
Kent
2/19/2022 12:25:25 am

Vallee is actually pretty accomplished in the real world, it seems.

"...a man denounced as dotty and past-his-prime by his own ufology colleagues..." Yeah, that's a solid yardstick. But ain't over until Wolter chimes in. The megalithic yardstick.

"Anasazi" is so close to "Annunaki" that it's obvious there's a connection.

One wonders if "The Zanti Misfits" infuenced the modern portrayal of The Ant People.

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Jim
2/21/2022 04:44:23 pm

No one wonders that, although many people do wonder about how you ended up with an ant sized brain.

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Kent
2/26/2022 01:15:06 am

Jim. I imagine for you that was quite a zinger. You really are an imbecile, aren't you?

I'm going to call the next legal rifle with no serial number I build "The Jim". It will have a U-shaped barrel.

Jim.

Jim
2/26/2022 10:47:45 am

" You really are an imbecile, aren't you?"

Lol, really ? Not me, Kent. You really can't tell when someone is rattling your chain ?

Kent
3/2/2022 10:49:07 am

Jim. I know failure when I see it and failure, thy name is Jim. The New Coke of chain pullers. Jim.

Jim
3/2/2022 01:20:40 pm

Kent,, the first post wasn't me !
Get it ?
Probably not.

CHARLES L VERRASTRO link
2/26/2022 12:01:01 pm

"Anasazi" is so close to "Annunaki" that it's obvious there's a connection.

I hope this wasn't meant seriously. After all, Kent could just as easily be seen as referring to a C*nt.

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Charles L. Verrastro link
2/19/2022 04:49:17 am

What I find most offensive are 'interviews' with supposed Native American wisdomkeepers. Most are either Europeans posing as 'adopted chiefs', commercial shamans offering tourists desert retreats and steam huts, or native adherents of UFO mythology who nearly all use the catchphrase 'Star People' for mythological beings, regardless of their tribal traditions.

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Kent
2/19/2022 12:14:50 pm

You should count yourself lucky that you missed most of it during your decades in a cryogenic chamber.

We have a couple of those pretenders right here.

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Some people
2/19/2022 03:10:20 pm

Some people believe in a historical Jesus Christ

It's like believing in Mithras, Osiris, or any other such deity.

Bob Jase
2/20/2022 12:16:31 pm

New-age white folks have spent decades corrupting first nations people & legends because European religions were too established for their woo.

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Rock Knocker
2/19/2022 11:09:45 am

I mistaken watched this episode, misreading the title as being an expose about the predecessor to NASA’s Scientific and Technical Aerospace Reports. Imagine my surprise when the subject instead hovered around gods = space aliens…

I want to be “saved” but does it have to include anal probing?

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Christianity is a bigger deception than ancient aliens
2/20/2022 05:55:47 am

Tell me where are the sceptical scholars about Christianity ? Did someone mention Bart Ehrman ? He dodges the rigorous scepticism of G. A. Wells. As for the "Jesus Did Not Exist" rubbish of Robert Price and other authors - crashingly boring !!! Bob Price cannot produce a rational explanation for Christianity and as for Richard Carrier - he still clings to the Mystery Cults explanation that has been making us all yawn for the past 200 years or so. The Christian churchgoers and the Christian sceptics have got it all wrong.

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Cato the Censor
2/22/2022 06:50:22 pm

AND FURTHERMORE IT IS MY BELIEF THAT CARTHAGE SHOULD BE DESTROYED.

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doc rock
2/20/2022 06:29:45 am

My limited understanding is that among the various ideologies underlying the belief in Kachinas is the belief that they originate and/or inhabit an underworld. It seems that the fringe is preoccupied with indigenous beliefs in supernatural beings from "up there" as opposed to down there. Much like they emphasize cross-cultural oral traditions about giant beings as proof of the existence of giants but don't seem to be interested in often equally common narratives about little people.

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E.P. Grondine
2/22/2022 09:41:16 am

Hi Doc -

Yes, the people of short stature, Oconachee and Yuchi, are generally ignored by the "fringe". But work on the people of tall stature, the Andaste, is often supprssed. That is usually done by ignorant "experts" who do not work with their remains.

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Kent
2/26/2022 01:20:42 am

Yet you assert the existence of 7+ ft. tall Indians currently alive who mysteriously cannot be photographed. Hmm.

E.P. Grondine
2/28/2022 09:15:41 am

Hi Kent -

You can go to powwow and meet Osage who are Andaste descendants.

E.P. Grondine
2/24/2022 09:11:47 am

You are right about the "little people". But the reports of their remains are usually ignored, as are the reports of the physical remains of the "giants".

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Christianvasion
2/28/2022 12:30:21 pm

Natives really did have to deal with aliens at least 400 years prior to Columbus. These aliens didn't come from another planet and weren't Mormons either. No Kolobians or Giants were involved.

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