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Review of Code of the Wild S01E05 "Aztecs in America"

8/29/2019

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This episode airs Sept. 3.
​For more than two centuries, scientists, historians, and treasure hunters have sought proof that Mesoamerican peoples visited or even colonized the lands now part of the continental United States. In the nineteenth century, this line of speculation tended to focus on the Aztecs, who had a myth of coming to Mexico from Aztlán, a land to the north of Mexico. Baron von Humboldt infamously placed Aztlán in the Great Lakes region on the evidence of a painting of a palm tree (don’t ask) and what amounted to some guesswork about how fast they might have walked across the 416 years of their wanderings from Aztlán to Mexico. “It is almost certain,” Humboldt wrote in Researches Concerning the Institutions and Monuments of the Ancient Inhabitants of America (1810), “that we must look for the first country of the Mexican nations, Aztlan, Huehuetlapallan, and Amequemecan, at least North of the 42d degree of latitude” (trans. Helena Maria Williams). Humboldt’s claim was so persuasive that he succeeded in getting scholars to speak of the inhabitants of Tenochtitlan as “Aztecs” from Aztlán instead of the Mexica of Mexico.
​From this, in 1836 N. F. Hyer falsely identified the Aztec homeland with a great mound center in Wisconsin, known afterward as Aztalan State Park, from an earlier transliteration of Aztlán. It was not the only place imagined as Aztlán. From early colonial times, Spanish missionaries and explorers had sought Aztlán in the deserts of what became the southwestern United States, and they also tracked legends across the region of a refuge where those Aztecs who escaped Cortez hid away the emperor’s treasures.
 
I’ll give you only one guess whether Chris Keefer (he of the “love of technology”) and Casey Keefer (“the history buff”) found either Aztlán or the Aztec imperial treasures in Utah during Code of the Wild. While this episode will not air for another week, the episode that aired this past Tuesday, which I did not review because it was not about archaeology or ancient history, brought in 437,000 viewer, nearly 200,000 fewer than the rerun of Expedition Unknown that preceded it.
 
In this episode, the brothers tell us that “all” the gold in Mexico, totaling $3 billion in today’s money, disappeared during the Conquest, and they might have hauled it off to Utah in order to hide it in the seven caves of Aztlán, from which they believed their people had emerged five centuries earlier. Rather than repeat myself, I will paste in my discussion of the Aztecs-of-the-Southwest claim from a few years ago:
Indeed, when we review the relevant literature, we find that indeed the Spanish historians of the 1700s had wrongly attributed the Gila ruins to the Aztecs, as the U.S. Department of the Interior reported in its official report on the Gila Ruins in 1913. The confusion occurred because the Spanish missionary who found Casa Grande in 1687, Father Eusebio Francisco Kino, mistakenly believed Casas Grande was Chichilticalli, a semi-mythical city seen by Coronado and wrongly though to be the northern stronghold of the Aztecs (not their homeland). Later historians followed Kino and associated the Aztecs with Casas Grande, and thus also with similar Pueblo ruins across what was then the Mexican northwest, now the U.S. southwest. The U.S. government itself published what Rodriguez claims as his own “discovery,” that old Spanish and Mexican maps assigned the “Aztecs” to various Pueblo sites. By the time of the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo, there was apparently a wrongheaded idea that the Anasazi and Pueblo sites were the successive occupations of the Aztecs on their mythical southern journey from Aztlán.

This was an artifact of the colonial period, not a genuine Aztec belief. We know this because we have the documentation of who first saw each ruin and what they called them. The Aztecs themselves said nothing of the Pueblo, though there was obviously influence from Mesoamerica in the desert southwest, such as the Mexican-style ball court at Hohokam. It was this cultural diffusion that helped cement the idea that the “Aztecs” had once ruled the southwest. Later, as knowledge grew, scholars recognized that the Aztecs were too recent to have been associated with these pueblos and instead assigned them to the Toltecs, from which we find the fringe history idea that the Jews who cast the Tucson Lead Artifacts battled the Toltecs!
​The brothers Keefer meet with B. J. Orozco, the grandson of the late professor Dr. Cecilio Orozco from Fresno State University, who wrote a book attempting to prove that the Aztecs passed through Utah en route to Mexico. Orozco described himself as an expert on Mesoamerican calendars, though his academic work was actually in education. They examine the “Head of Sinbad” petroglyph in Utah, which is 3,000 years old, and Orozco and the Keefers claim the ancestors of the Aztecs created it because it is a “calendar.” They do not explain the connection (Is it because the Aztecs had a calendar, too?), nor do they attempt to reconcile the 3,000-year-old dating of the Sinbad Formation with the Aztecs’ own origin myth, which they themselves quoted, placing their origin around 1000 CE. Maybe this material made sense in the script, but as broadcast, it is confounding and confusing. The actual warrant for the connection is the elder Orozco’s speculative work, based on an article he had read in National Geographic, which held that the Sinbad Formation displays the same mathematical calculations as the famous Aztec Sun Stone calendar.
 
The brothers announce their intention to seek out the Aztec “origin caves” in Mexico, and they enlist Vicki Hooper, as “local Aztec expert” who has studied Montezuma’s Treasure for twenty years. They gawk at her piles of research, which seems to be made up of xeroxed newspaper articles and old tourist pamphlets, and then things start to get weird.
 
Hooper shows the brothers photos of rocks, and she claims that each of these natural formations is actually a gigantic Spanish carving of a turtle designed to point the way to the next turtle, all the way to the treasure, which she says the Spanish had found after the Aztecs deposited it. I cannot find any support for Hooper’s claim that turtles were a favorite symbol of the Spanish or used by the conquistadors to mark treasure. Hooper may have spent twenty years reading about Montezuma’s treasure, but I’ve spent 25 years reading European history, and I have never come across turtle symbolism. A review of the literature finds that this seems to be a folk story from Oklahoma, originally attached to gold mines in the twentieth century. I found it used in connection with Devil’s Canyon in the Wichita Mountains of Oklahoma in a book written by W. C. Jameson in 1989, and Jameson says the turtles were “long recognized by researchers” as a marker of gold and silver. That same year, another writer named Steve Wilson wrote of the same claim, which he attributed to “Jay Winters, of Altus,” who apparently invented the story of the turtles. Hooper appears to have relocated the story to Utah, following some twenty-first century fringe books that tried to create a giant turtle-based Spanish treasure landscape across the western United States.
 
A big chunk of the episode—about half—is devoted to the brothers walking around Utah hunting for a possible route the Aztecs could have walked from Mexico to the Sinbad Formation. Your enjoyment depends on how much you enjoy watching bearded men in parkas walk across barren landscapes and crawl through caves filled with guano.
 
For no good reason, the men decide that one particular cave filled with Native American rock art is actually an Aztec cave and that the Aztecs viewed it as a passage between the lands of the living and the dead. I tried to parse the logic of it, but I couldn’t do it. The brothers correctly understood other Native American rock art to be Native, so what led them to declare this rock art to be Aztec—even after being told it “could be” up to ten thousand years old—is beyond me. The men speculate that the cave dates from the “dawn of the Aztecs” and was their original home. At this point, I am not entirely certain that the Keefer brothers know anything about the Aztecs or have much of a grasp on the timeline of peoples who inhabited the Southwestern United States and Mexico.
 
Inside the cave, the Casey Keefer finds a small opening inside a standing rock in which carefully polished orange stones had been intentionally placed. He then ruins whatever archaeological value this offering may have had (though I wouldn’t guarantee they had been there all that long since they are shiny and suspiciously clean) by sticking his grubby hands inside and pulling them all out to gawk at them.
 
“Maybe it’s part of an Aztec ceremony or something, man,” Chris Keefer says.
 
The men were very excited to find these stones and, based on them, declare that they had found the Aztec “origin caves” and say, falsely, that they plan to “keep pushing” to find the other six caves and Montezuma’s treasure. The show then ends, and they trade their chance at three billion dollars to return to the Travel Channel to sell commercial time to reverse mortgage providers for substantially less. It’s almost like they don’t even want three billion dollars…
40 Comments
Roger Spurrious
8/29/2019 10:11:14 am

The turtles are mudfossils, you fools.

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Anthony Warren Eats Used Food
8/29/2019 10:32:45 am

"Rather than repeat myself, I will paste in my discussion of the Aztecs-of-the-Southwest claim from a few years ago:"

That is literally repeating yourself.

"25 years reading European history, and I have never come across turtle symbolism."

A turtle with a full blown sail on its back, was the emblem (impresa) of Cosimo de ‘Medici (1389-1464). The accompanying motto was the phrase “Festina lente” [Lat. – “Hasten slowly”], which means do not hurry, but be sure of what you are doing.

https://www.picturesfromitaly.com/florence/duke-cosimo-i-de-medici-his-motto-festina-lente-and-his-device-of-a-tortoise-and-sail

"Your enjoyment depends on how much you enjoy watching bearded men in parkas walk across barren landscapes and crawl through caves filled with guano." Do NOT Google that from your work computer.

Since the Aztecs were from what is now central Mexico it is reasonable to call them Mexicans.

"the men decide that one particular cave filled with Native American rock art is actually an Aztec cave and that the Aztecs viewed it as a passage between the lands of the living and the dead. I tried to parse the logic of it, but I couldn’t do it. The brothers correctly understood other Native American rock art to be Native"

This is where political correctness creates gibberish. Were the Aztecs not "Native Americans"? What were they, Swedes? So "Native American rock art [is] Native"? This is idiocy.

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Jim
8/29/2019 11:49:11 am

"Since the Aztecs were from what is now central Mexico it is reasonable to call them Mexicans."

http://www.primaryhomeworkhelp.co.uk/aztecs.html

"The word "Aztec" means "someone who comes from Aztlán", an unknown location north of Mexico."

" Were the Aztecs not "Native Americans"?"

No, there was no America then. Unless you think the Minoans were Turks or Greeks or whomever happened to control Crete at any point in history.

" What were they, Swedes? "

No.

" This is idiocy."

Correct.

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Anthony Warren Eats Used Food
8/29/2019 12:15:12 pm

"The word "Aztec" means "someone who comes from Aztlán", an unknown location north of Mexico."

That's on par with Romulus and Remus being nursed by a wolf. Not the etymology, the location. "Aztlan" is clearly a corruption of "Atlantis".

"No, there was no America then."

And there was no "America" when Europeans discovered "Native Americans". So what would you like us to call "Native Americans"?

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Jim
8/29/2019 12:53:52 pm

"So what would you like us to call "Native Americans"?"

Well, most people call them "Native Americans", as they are and were, native to the place that is now known as America.

So,,,,Swedes - bad,,,,,,,,,,Native Americans - good.

Anthony Warren Eats Used Food
8/29/2019 01:18:42 pm

Mythology aside and ignored, Aztecs were native to the place that is now known as Mexico. So they were Mexicans.

Similarly the Minoans were Cretans, not "Greeks" or "Turks". It's really quite simple.

Jim
8/29/2019 01:44:11 pm

Whoa,,,,,lol
So the Aztecs were Mexican because they lived in what is now Mexico, but the Minoans lived in what is now Greece and they were not Greek ?

Your original post was just more asinine minutiae nitpicking of Jason's writing to pat yourself on the back for your imagined genius.
Carry on.


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TONY S.
8/29/2019 05:25:25 pm

By that logic, I guess the inhabitants of Rhodes, Delos, Chios, Kalymnos, Hydra, Santorini or any of the other Greek islands weren't real Greeks either.

As a Greek who's proud of his heritage, I have to say bluntly that's absolute horsesh@@.

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Jr. Time Lord
8/29/2019 06:26:38 pm

kent must be leaking again.


https://www.amazon.com/Depend-Incontinence-Underwear-Absorbency-32-Count/dp/B004M3CPDG

TONY S.
8/29/2019 07:49:00 pm

I have a soft spot for Time Lords. ;)

Kent’s c*nt
8/29/2019 08:11:03 pm

Is he the same toad who pompously declared recently that he pays someone to proofread his own work and yet he comes here day after day to scour Jason’s posts for the tiniest of errors?

TONY S.
8/29/2019 09:03:40 pm

I have no idea who Kent is,nor why his name was attached to my reply to Jim's comment.

Kent’s c*nt
8/29/2019 10:58:47 pm

Sorry about that sir, my mistake — I humbly apologize to you.

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
8/30/2019 03:55:17 pm

People’s understanding of their own ancestry is inevitably an oversimplification. For instance Turks like to imagine themselves as coming from Central Asia, since this is where the Turkish language originated; in fact, most of their ancestry is local to Anatolia.

The Greeks have absorbed massive demographic incursions of Slavs and others over the centuries, but still think of themselves as descended from the ancient Hellenes.

https://vdare.com/articles/the-fulford-file-actually-there-has-always-been-migration-but-in-those-days-they-called-it-invading

Stumbled On This Site
8/30/2019 04:06:32 pm

"KENT’S C*NT
8/29/2019 08:11:03 pm
Is he the same toad who pompously declared recently that he pays someone to proofread his own work and yet he comes here day after day to scour Jason’s posts for the tiniest of errors?"

No, he's the toad who employs a housekeeper and notices when a restaurant gives him dirty cutlery.

The toad who employs a personal assistant and notices when the newspaper guy doesn't deliver the newspaper.

The toad who owns a calculator but notices when your math is wrong.

The toad who uses a personal trainer but sees your bad form at the gym. Wait, scratch that, you've never been to a gym.

Anthony Warren Eats Used Food
8/29/2019 08:14:53 pm

Simply trying to accommodate you, Jim. Far from nitpicking what Jason wrote, I'm SIDING WITH him when he refers to Aztecs as Mexican. Try to keep up.

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JIM
9/2/2019 09:18:32 pm

" Far from nitpicking what Jason wrote, I'm SIDING WITH him when he refers to Aztecs as Mexican. Try to keep up."

And here we go again, Kent making shit up again to support his BS.

Why don't you show us where Jason referred to Aztecs as Mexican ?

It"s always fun to watch you try to twist someones words into something they didn't actually say to support your nonsense.

Jim
9/2/2019 09:34:08 pm


Jim
8/31/2019 10:16:02 am

Oops, sorry folks, it looks like I broke Kent.
He has become completely delusional.
He is literally arguing with himself. He is inventing comments I never made, attributing them to me and then arguing a counter point. lol,,,,,,Wowzer ,,and still losing the argument. hahahahaha.

"You are quoting me as saying this -"the laws were relaxed after 1968."- ?"

I never said this.
YOU MADE THAT UP.

"Second, if something was forbidden in 1968 (and/or before!) and allowed afterwards, that would be a case of a law being relaxed. Jim."

I never said anything was allowed afterwords.
YOU MADE THAT UP.

Kent
9/5/2019 04:19:25 pm

"Why don't you show us where Jason referred to Aztecs as Mexican ?"

I can't or won't. I'm simply referring to Anthony Warren's criticism of Jason for using the word "Mexican" to refer to various Mexican peoples. Jim. Take it up with him. Jim.

"JR. TIME LORD
8/22/2019 09:39:14 pm
Mr. Colavito,

Your stance against racism would be more believable if you didn't label cultures, and diverse peoples from Central America as 'Mexicans'."

If you've had that hardon for more than four hours you really should get it seen to. Jim.

Kent
9/5/2019 04:24:42 pm

It bears noticing that Anthony Warren/Accumulated Wisdom/John Doe/The Defendant seems to think Mexico is in Central America. Kinda racist, don't ya think?

Jim
9/5/2019 07:29:01 pm

"Why don't you show us where Jason referred to Aztecs as Mexican ?"

"I can't or won't. I'm simply referring to Anthony Warren's criticism of Jason for using the word "Mexican" to refer to various Mexican peoples. Jim. Take it up with him. Jim."

Perhaps you should get someone fluent to help you with your English.

Kent:

" Far from nitpicking what Jason wrote, I'm SIDING WITH him when he refers to Aztecs as Mexican."

Kent
9/5/2019 07:35:49 pm

And when he so refers, I will already have sided with him. Jim.

I know you have a thing about not doing your own research. Jim

Take it up with Anthony "The Defendant" Warren. Jim.

Still got that hardon I see. Jim.

Jim
9/5/2019 08:10:28 pm

Hahahahahahah

Kent:

"I can't or won't. I'm simply referring to Anthony Warren's criticism of Jason for using the word "Mexican" to refer to various Mexican peoples. Jim. Take it up with him. Jim.

"JR. TIME LORD
8/22/2019 09:39:14 pm
Mr. Colavito,

Your stance against racism would be more believable if you didn't label cultures, and diverse peoples from Central America as 'Mexicans'."

What a boner, you are quoting Anthony from a different Blog posting,,,, lol,,, he posted that days before this topic even was published !

OMG, it took you five days of searching through Jason's blogs to come up with an excuse as weak as that ? hahaha

You are too dumb to have a conversation with.
You are ignored.

Kent
9/5/2019 08:36:50 pm

Jim. Oh Jim. I didn't take five days to find Anthony "The Defendant" Warren's quote. Jim.

It was closer to five seconds. Thirty seconds would be in the ballpark. Jim.

As a human being on the planet Earth I remember stuff. Jim.

Now you're peeved because I quoted someone? Jim?

I'm very confident that you are not an asshole and you are not a shit for brains, although my saying that may compel you to contradict it, but I have to ask: what is your major malfunction? Jim.

TONY S.
8/29/2019 05:20:34 pm

They should have done a crossover show with Scott Wolter. He believes that there are Aztec pyramids in a Wisconsin lake. Who could ever forget that priceless footage of him on the bottom in that broken down, yellow mini-sub?

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John, Paul, George & Ringo
8/29/2019 05:36:49 pm

We then could have changed the song "Scott Wolter lives in a Yellow Submarine". I kind of think that after a short time any submarine Scott Wolter occupied would have had a yellow interior.

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TONY S.
8/29/2019 07:43:12 pm

Whoever you are, I as a Beatles fan salute you!

Not Kent
8/30/2019 12:56:23 am

Goddamnit, stop picking on Kent!

He's a good boy, and he eats all his vegetables.

Now, if I see one more person picking on Kent? I'll cry.

Don't make NOT KENT cry.

K?

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Tlön Kent
8/30/2019 01:30:00 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut82TDjciSg

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Kent’s colostomy bag
8/30/2019 01:48:59 am

I ignore youtube links because I like to know what I'm getting into and posting a youtube link is the equivalent of the person saying "I've got nothing.”

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TONY S.
9/3/2019 02:51:10 pm

Perfectly put! I agree.

Kent Borges
8/30/2019 02:06:35 am

Ah that's really funny!

Like fishing with Dynamite.

I'm not the
KENT you're looking for, Stormtrooper. Yet I am.

What wil I make you bait for?

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TENK
8/30/2019 02:30:55 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=segaTuXkgFI

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Doc Rock
8/30/2019 01:11:35 pm

I'm trying to figure out which list would be longer: the different groups that fringers claim were traipsing about North America back in the day or the groups that fringers haven't yet claimed were traipsing about in North America back in the day?

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Kent’s catheter comfort kit
8/30/2019 02:34:27 pm

Neither list would eclipse the number of times that I post comments on this blog in an average day!

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Tudlaw
8/30/2019 03:28:18 pm

Even in ancient times, the Mexicans were invading!

Eventually someone will claim to have found sites that give evidence of a vast paleo-American trans-sexual culture.

I would like to live in a world where giant sloths still exist.

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Willis the Reed
8/30/2019 03:50:18 pm

They still exist to this day. One lives in the White House, the other is the Senior (Senile) Senator from Kentucky.

Doc Rock
8/30/2019 03:57:38 pm

They used a giant sloth in the film Goonies. So hell yeah they real...

Kent’s Inguinal hernia
8/30/2019 09:25:06 pm

I’ve got a giant sloth inside my orthopedic old man under pants!

Charles Verrastro link
9/2/2019 06:45:38 pm

Years ago I purchased an odd rare book called "Mormon Dream Mines". It was basically a folklore book detailing all the "lost" mines of the regions the Mormons settled in, as envisioned in prophetic dreams and visions of Mormon Elders. I would have to re-read it but I believe the turtle (or tortoise) landmarks appears in one or two of those accounts. I agree that nearly any flat, semi-amorphous mud concretions could easily be mistaken for carven turtles when one is looking for the slightest markers of a supposed treasure trail.

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