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Review of "Cosmic Womb: The Seeding of Planet Earth" by Chandra Wickramasinghe and Robert Bauval

8/22/2017

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​Good news, everyone! Robert Bauval, the purveyor of The Orion Mystery, has finally admitted to being an ancient astronaut theorist. I’ve suspected this for decades, ever since Bauval admitted in The Orion Mystery that his inspiration for the book was the ancient astronaut speculation of Robert Temple. His frequent appearances on Ancient Aliens were also a strong hint. But Bauval has long pretended to be interested only in Graham Hancock’s lost civilization. However, in December he will release a new book with panspermia advocate Chandra Wickramasinghe called Cosmic Womb: The Seeding of Planet Earth (Bear & Company, 2017) in which Bauval and Wickramasinghe argue that Earth life was purposely seeded from the stars by an advanced extraterrestrial civilization and that ancient people were aware of this fact. This is an early review of the forthcoming book courtesy of galley proofs made available by the publisher
​In the publisher’s preface that begins the book, the publisher writes that Bauval “feels it is time for him to step up and expose what he has come to believe. It is a bold step because he is aware that by doing so he is putting himself in the firing line of his critics and detractors.” Bauval apparently now feels that the imaginary correlations and mathematical mysteries he sees in the Great Pyramid could only be the result of extraterrestrial intervention. Bauval came to believe this, according to the publisher, because his brother, an architect, informed him that the math “encoded” in the pyramid is so advanced only space aliens—not Atlantis—could have delivered it to Earth. Somehow, however, Bauval’s brother was advanced enough to understand and recognize it. The publisher adds that the book came about after Bauval and Wickramasinghe discussed ancient astronauts together at Erich von Däniken’s eightieth birthday party, the one thrown by his German publisher, which has rightwing and Neo-Nazi ties.
 
The first half of the book was written by Wickramasinghe (who, for the sake of my wrists, I will abbreviate as CW), and he uses it to discuss the probability of life in the cosmos and his conviction that science has become similar to a “totalitarian state” that is actively stifling innovative research emerging from outside the iron triangle of government, corporate, and university laboratories. This, he says, prevents research into unconventional hypotheses, such as ancient astronauts and space aliens. He alleges that modern science has a Western and Judeo-Christian bias, in which the standard model of cosmology echoes the book of Genesis, with the Big Bang representing creation and evolution the sequential creation of species. In discussing panspermia, he throws out some random strange claims. For example, ancient references to red or blood rain he takes to be the precipitation of an unknown space life form, a claim that other scientists have disputed and which he claims that the “fake news” mainstream media refuses to report honestly. But even if the cells were from outer space, what would this have to do with the Great Pyramid?
 
Another chapter segues incongruously into creationism, a subject about which CW has testified in court on behalf of efforts to teach creationism in U.S. schools, and despite claiming to be a Buddhist who “lean[s] toward atheism,” CW complains about “rationalists” who are driving the public out of churches and temples and away from beauty and philosophy. He seems to have a profound dislike of Darwin for destroying what he perceives (wrongly) to have been a previously universal subservience to the dominion of God. CW presents arguments for why life cannot have emerged from non-life, and he tells us that this means that all life emerged from “an intelligent creator or omnipotent God.” Weirdly, for CW, space alien architects and an omnipotent God are pretty much the same thing, giving the lie to the idea that the ancient astronaut theory is anything but religion in pseudoscientific clothes. CW is not a Young Earth Creationist or a Flood geologist but uses his panspermia hypothesis as a wedge argument to find common cause with Old Earth Creationists by putting forth the proposition that there are other alternatives to Darwinian evolution. Either CW is disingenuous, or he believes that elites benefit when the masses believe in authoritarian religious traditions which can be exploited to support elite rule.
 
For no good reason, he includes a lengthy section on reincarnation and his belief that elite geniuses are reborn in each generation to lead humanity. Others are probably reborn too, but he focuses on geniuses, and it’s pretty clear where CW classifies himself.
 
But what does any of this have to do with Egypt and the Great Pyramid? Who knows. He moves on to essentially arguing that The Andromeda Strain is a real-life concern and while we might be wiped out by diseases from space, bacteria probably rode space rocks to the early Earth with the purpose of making Darwin look the fool—as though such bacteria had no prior history on their own planet governed by the same principles of evolution. He argues that octopuses transformed from squid when space alien virions inserted 33,000 genes into the squid’s DNA. He did not specify whether 33,000 virions each added one gene or whether the virions came to Earth with a full program for octopus, apparently riding here from Yuggoth on orders from the Cthulhu Spawn. What do aliens want with octopuses?
 
There are few more of CW’s chapters, but you get the idea.
 
In the second part Robert Bauval takes over and offers what he calls “intelligent speculation.” We can quibble about the adjective, but there is no doubt about the noun. He begins by saying that he has become convinced that extraterrestrial contact should be evident in prehistoric monumental architecture, particularly the Great Pyramid, where aliens are most likely to have left a lasting legacy. He takes time to blast “some television production companies”—i.e. Ancient Aliens, a show on which he regularly appears—for intemperate speculation, and he then turns his ire on Egyptologists for refusing to recognize a true “mystery” in the construction of the Great Pyramid.
 
It goes without saying that he devotes a great deal of space to yet another airing of his grievances over the BBC’s 1999 Horizon documentary on the Orion Correlation Theory, which he last complained about in the book he and Robert Schoch released earlier this year. At some point, it really starts to become like the middle-aged man who keeps telling the same war story about his high school glory days. An entire generation has grown up since the incident occurred.
 
Bauval has become fascinated by math that he doesn’t understand, and, unable to understand it, he concludes that it represents knowledge beyond the human. A lot of the claims have been seen on Ancient Aliens before, such as the mathematical prowess of Ramanujan, savant syndrome, etc. Bauval confesses that he believes he acquired savant syndrome when he fell and hit his head as a child, after which he says he “never felt quit (sic) the same,” and induced a curiosity about life and the university and the ability to “see” patterns like the Orion Correlation that no one else can see. He also added, disturbingly, that he also believes that ideas enter his head from “somewhere else,” such as a supernatural or extraterrestrial realm of ideas, and that this has occurred for more than 30 years.
 
The evidence that Bauval provides for extraterrestrial intervention in the Great Pyramid is remarkably empty. It’s numerology of the kind that has been popular in pyramid-speculation circles since the nineteenth century. Coincidences of measurement are taken to be indications of intentional encoding of random numbers—11, 137, etc.—that are thought to be related to complex sequences of primes and cubes that have no inherent connection to the Great Pyramid, or really much of anything. Bauval adds that he has experienced mental health issues such as debilitating depression over the years and often sees numerical patterns in the world around him, and that certain numbers carry prophetic meaning for him. When he sees a 96, for example, he knows bad things are going to happen, while the number 3 is good for him. He devotes a chapter to quantum physics and how its “weirdness” might underlie some of what he experienced. He confesses that he does not understand the math behind it, but claims that with the help of “the Internet,” books, and “YouTube channels,” one might learn everything necessary about quantum physics “without knowing the mathematics” (emphasis in original). Bauval now considers himself qualified to opine about quantum spookiness and other topics because of his online “self-education.”
 
I needn’t tell you that this is not a logical argument, or a rational one. Bauval’s belief in the magical power of numbers is almost identical to that of David Wilcock, who also sees imaginary correlations in every numerical coincidence. I frankly have no idea how to begin to critique a claim that is based in literal magical thinking. Bauval, unable to convince with evidence, has turned to the mystical and can therefore appeal to divine authority and secret knowledge where facts fail. He suggests that his discovery that the Orion Correlation dates to 10,500 BCE, a year targeted by Edgar Cayce, suggests a supernatural force providing information to them both. He neglects to note that the period had long been tied to fringe history. John Kilduff used Bauval’s own methodology to determine that the Sphinx was built in 10,750 BCE—in 1909! The Victorians used “10,000 B.C.” as a marking point for the end of the Ice Age, and Bible-thumpers of the Old Earth persuasion suggested it as the date of the Flood. Bunsen, the most widely cited writer on Egypt in that era, gave 10,000 BCE as the time when Egyptian religion was founded, under Osiris, after the Flood period of 11,000 BCE to 10,000 BCE, using the numbers given in Manetho’s king list. Short form: Bunsen’s chronology stands behind most of these claims, and the coincidence that Leo “matches” the Sphinx at 10,500 BCE allowed later writers to “match” Bunsen’s claims to Renaissance-era astrological claims about the Sphinx and Leo, itself based on a conflation of the Greek and Egyptian sphinxes.
 
Much of the rest of the argument is little more than a rehash of 1960s ancient astronaut material drawn mostly from Carl Sagan’s Intelligent Life in the Universe, including claims about the Fermi paradox, the prevalence of life in the universe, and the likelihood that it reached Earth. To this, he adds fashionable Ancient Aliens claims about quantum physics and how it might explain the way aliens could traverse the universe or influence it quickly. He speculates about whether the “aliens” are actually interdimensional.
 
When he finally gets to the Great Pyramid, things get worse. He has decided that there was not evolution in the development of pyramids from mastabas but rather that “something special” happened—meaning that aliens delivered the plans telepathically—or else that the pyramid first developed in the Ice Age. He speculates that aliens designed the pyramid as a “three-dimensional blueprint” for a machine that a future society could build using quantum principles and “laser transmission of ‘encoded’ information.”  This somehow descends into recapping of nineteenth and twentieth century pyramid numerology, which Bauval takes to be true, and from which he extracts numerical coincidences of importance to him, and he supports this with an alleged quotation from Manetho that is actually from Schwaller de Lubicz and which does not seem to come from Manetho so far as I can find (Nothing like it is in the Loeb Manetho): “We would be universal scientists if it were given to us to inhabit the sacred land of Egypt.” It makes no sense since Manetho was Egyptian. He pauses here and there to complain about Egyptologists ganging up to suppress numerological readings of the pyramid, and he endorses several fanciful numerical coincidences, and some that require a bit of work to generate, particularly those that ask us to assume that the Egyptian planned for their measurements to be converted into modern meters for added levels of magical numerology. For example, expresses his belief that the latitude of the Great Pyramid of 29.9792° N, expressed in decimal degrees that were only invented in the seventeenth century (earlier systems were inconsistent), yields a number that reproduces the significant digits of the speed of light as expressed in kilometers per second, using the kilometer defined in 1983—299,792 km/s. Apparently, a conspiracy has kept modern measurements in sync with the pyramid but did not bother to adjust them to make nice and even numbers.
 
The number, needless to say, is coincidence. For example, the digits 299792 are also found in the net revenue of $299,792 on a railway company’s balance sheet in December 1890, and it was the value in dollars of radioscopes exported by the United States in 1980. It was the purchase code for the “Lady Editor” (a pig) advertised in the American Poland-China Record in 1907, and it was also the number of acres suitable for potential timber growth of 50 to 84 cubic feet per year in Bitterroot National Forest in 1987. I could go on, but to what end?  It’s all just coincidence.
 
Is there any use in chronicling more of this? Clearly, Bauval has become unmoored from reality and is happy to accept any bizarre claim or Internet meme so long as it reflects his magical worldview. Bauval concludes, for what it’s worth, that there are a number of possibilities behind the pyramid, ranging from coincidence to a super-intelligent ancient human designer (e.g. Atlantis), and from something like the Akashic Record to alien contact, and of course that the universe is all a simulation. He declines to speculate on which is correct but notes that Egyptology falls with any but coincidence being true.
 
CW closes the book with warnings about climate change and killer asteroids.
 
The book is disjointed, rambling, and a bit shambolic, a grab-bag of random material revolving around the possibility of alien contact of various kinds. It is notable for what it is missing. CW’s panspermia does not include alien architects of human structures, but Bauval’s projection of his own ignorance onto ancient people lacks even speculation that the Egyptians knew about panspermia. The two authors’ views have nothing to do with one another, and it seems that the publisher decided that neither author had enough material to justify a book and therefore jammed together too vaguely similar proposals that are collectively less than the sum of their parts because of their incompatibility. 
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Americanegro
8/22/2017 10:26:41 am

Harrumph. That was a wild ride, thank you. Rest assured that we will be taking up the case of Mr. Bauval at the next meeting of The Grange. The spilling of secrets will not be tolerated.

Mr. Country Western exemplifies the worst sort of Indian pseudo-intellectual. HPB would have gotten moist.

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Scott Hamilton
8/22/2017 10:26:58 am

So does CW engage at all with problem at the core of all panspermia theories - Where did life come from in the first place? And if CW's construction allows for an uncreated god to create the first life, why does he have to propose panspermia at all? Couldn't that god have made all the life on different planets?

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Philosopher
8/23/2017 03:16:22 am

Universe itself is alive, therefore there is nothing that is not Life. And Life has always existed and will always exist. Therefore Life did not come from anywhere, Life and therefore our lives are eternal. Aliens and humans are just manifestations of one very big Being.

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Shane Sullivan
8/22/2017 11:43:44 am

A a geriatric duo consisting of a reincarnated genius and a man who gained mystic powers when he hit his head as a child.

Stan Lee's latest outing seems particularly weak.

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Graham
8/22/2017 11:58:20 am

I find this line to be particularly interesting "He alleges that modern science has a Western and Judeo-Christian bias..." since I've seen a number of papers come out from American academia arguing much the same thing, and then stating that for this reason all science is 'tainted' by racism/sexism and should be replaced by unspecified 'other means of knowing'.

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Americanegro
8/22/2017 12:48:44 pm

And "Judeo-Christian" is just a way of saying "and of course the Jews".

A lot of people talk about how the U.S. was founded on "Judeo-Christian values" but it was barely founded on Christian values. The Founding Fathers did not talk about "our Jew forefathers". Although Jefferson did read Hebrew. 4th of July should be renamed "Jefferson Adams Independence Day".

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Titus pullo
8/22/2017 08:06:36 pm

The whole judeo-christian thing is BS. America was founded on equal doses of the roman republic, stoicism, and british decentralization and the ideas of natural rights. I dont see much christianity in the declaration of independence and no judism at all. The irony today is christianity and judism have little in common except for evengelicals support for the right wing israeli govt and the israeli lobby.

George Washinton was a roman stoic

Another Jim
8/22/2017 01:06:53 pm

I don't understand how a claim of Judeo-Christian bias holds up when most modern scientific conclusions, e.g. evolution and modern cosmology, point toward the non-existence of a Judeo-Christian God. I'm having a difficult time connecting the dots from Dawkins or Krauss to a Judeo-Christian bias.

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Americanegro
8/22/2017 01:32:17 pm

There is or should be, a difference between being a skeptic and being an idiot.

There clearly is a Jewish tradition, the existence of which is provable by all the science you want to throw at it. There clearly is a Christian tradition, the existence of which is provable by all the science you want to throw at it. You idiot.

ANOTHER JIM
8/22/2017 02:06:15 pm

Not certain where the ad-hominem attack is coming from, but the claim that there is a Judeo-Christian bias in modern science seems unfounded to me. Evolution and big bang theory are no more biased toward creationism or genesis than they are toward any other religious or secular tradition. "Let there be light" does not equal big bang. Our modern understanding of evolution and cosmology are shaped by evidence, not dogma.

Americanegro
8/22/2017 02:22:58 pm

It's not ad hominem (no hyphen) in the case of an actual idiot.

Anyone who says "Judeo-Christian" is ipso facto lying because the two are contradictory.

ANOTHER JIM
8/22/2017 03:59:41 pm

You have correctly identified my typographical error AMERICANEGRO, ad hominem does not contain a hyphen; however, the rest of your comment only highlights your ignorance, intolerance, and immaturity. Christianity was derived from Judaism. Both are Abrahamic religions. Much of the Christian Old Testament is also Jewish scripture. Regardless of their differences or potential contradictions, the two are ipso facto related. In any event, I never commented on the similarities/differences of the two religions. My comment was that I did not agree with the claim that modern science exhibits a bias toward either. You did not address this in your lunatic rant attacking me. Instead, you latched on to the use of the term Judeo-Christian and spewed forth a bitter stream of ridiculous nonsense that did nothing to move the conversation forward or add anything useful to it.

I understand that you are simply an internet troll who cares less about the content of his remarks than their potential to pull people into an argument. I also realize that I have fed the troll by engaging with you. For this, I apologize to the readers of this blog. I will leave you to your hatred and ignorance, AMERICANEGRO. Perhaps the world will look better to you after you finally move out of your parents’ basement.

David Bradbury
8/22/2017 04:08:25 pm

Contradictory in the sense that the biography of Jesus presented in the New Testament is explicitly linked, over and over again, with Jewish scriptures?

Another Jim
8/22/2017 04:29:59 pm

His arguments are comprised of an all-too-common blend of ignorance, prejudice, and irrational thinking. It is a disturbing trend in modern America that ends with khaki clad, tiki torch wielding morons chanting “blood and soil” in the streets.

Americanegro
8/22/2017 04:41:01 pm

"Christianity was derived from Judaism."
Says you. In science fiction TV it's called "retconning".

"Both are Abrahamic religions."
Again, sez you. Jews, Christians, and Muslims each worship their own imaginary god, not one imaginary god. Anyway, since Abrahamic religions began in ritual child slaughter by a psychotic that's nothing to brag about.

"Much of the Christian Old Testament is also Jewish scripture."
Gee, thanks, never noticed that, you idiot.

"Regardless of their differences or potential contradictions, the two are ipso facto related."
So in your view, Judaism and the People's Temple are "ipso facto related"?

"parents' basement" Wow, you really zinged me! Actually you dishonor the burial place of my ancestors. Io volio vendetta.

Americanegro
8/22/2017 04:50:00 pm

"DAVID BRADBURY
8/22/2017 04:08:25 pm
Contradictory in the sense that the biography of Jesus presented in the New Testament is explicitly linked, over and over again, with Jewish scriptures?"

The scientific term for that is "making stuff up". e.g. Jesus rode into Jerusalem on an ass. Either he told his followers "I shall require an ass for my entrance" or someone made the story up when they eventually got around to concocting the demonstrably false Gospels. Either way it was to fit the scriptures. Yes, contradictory in exactly that sense. Jesus was not Jewing all over the place. He certainly was not the Messiah although he liked the coattails so maybe he had the genes for the rag trade.

Nice try Triple D.

Not the Comte de Saint Germain
8/22/2017 05:21:09 pm

If we can ignore Americanegro and his deliberate obtuseness for a moment, there is a valid point to be made that "Judeo-Christian" isn't a term that makes much sense. Jesus and his earliest followers were Jewish and their beliefs were firmly rooted in Second Temple Judaism, but the two belief systems diverged a lot in the century after Jesus' death. Christians radically reinterpreted Jewish scriptures, first to make Jesus fit them, then to appeal to Gentile converts. Meanwhile, Rabbinic Judaism continued to emphasize the legal technicalities of the Torah, whose value in Christianity Paul had partly undermined by saying that a lot of the Torah didn't apply to Gentiles. Jewish theology rejects the Christian belief that Jesus was God and regards it as a violation of monotheism. Christianity uses the Old Testament but often interprets it radically differently from the rabbinic tradition. Christians have a long history of persecuting Jews, and whatever individual Christians today may think of Jews, most forms of Christian theology imply that the Jews' religion is imperfect and they will have to convert someday or be damned. Now, there are commonalities between Christian and Jewish ethics, but most of them are also shared by Islam, which the term leaves out.

The term came into wide use around the time of World War II. Until that time, the US was pretty thoroughly Protestant-dominated, and Jews and Catholics were regarded as suspect. People used "Judeo-Christian" to create a sense of inclusivity, saying, "Yes, Jews and Catholics can be Americans, too." The term is often used today by conservative Christians to argue that American values are Christian-based while giving a sop to inclusivity by acknowledging Jews (but not Muslims).

However, oddly enough, "Judeo-Christian" does make sense in Wickramsinghe's complaint. He's arguing that scientists' hypotheses about the origin of the universe and the evolution of life resemble the Genesis creation account, with creation ex nihilo and a sequential creation of species. And Judaism and Christianity do have Genesis in common.

David Bradbury
8/23/2017 03:56:13 am

The term "Judeo-Christian" has been used academically in English from the mid-19th century. Although it appears to "make sense in Wickramsinghe's complaint," that is (evolution being famously problematic for literalist Christians) only so in the sense that the evidence suggests our Universe had a definable beginning, contrary to the steady state theory propsed by, among others, CW's former collaborator Fred Hoyle. You could probably argue, on the same evidence, that the modern view of the history of life, the universe and everything is biased towards Taoism.

Pops
8/23/2017 12:13:03 pm

There's a reason Americannegroe is sometimes "odd" he's just showing rational snark. It's not a bad thing of course. I appreciate the occasional laugh or argument. But sometimes he actually does act irrationally. But that's only when there's a joke or fact about Republicans/conservatism. Look out for Joe Scales and Only Me as well. They act super irrational when someone attacks or shows the reality of modern conservatism or the King Of Irrationality Donald Trump.

Joe Scales
8/23/2017 12:57:39 pm

Pops,
A friendly word of advice. Why don't you take your reactionary bullshit politics somewhere deserving of your unremarkable attributes. Using one clear moniker would be nice as well, but I can see your need for change, getting your ass handed to you again and again while the table for grownups continues to elude you. Still, consistency would be appreciated for ease of ignoring.

Americanegro
8/23/2017 02:47:29 pm

Pops dude, calm the heck down. Trump > Clinton, which is not saying much. When have I talked about him, you silly lame bitch?

Not the Comte de Saint Germain
8/23/2017 09:49:07 pm

Yes, the term was coined in the 19th century, but it became much more widespread beginning in the 1930s.

http://washingtonjewishweek.com/34907/judeo-christian-values/news/national-news/

Kal
8/22/2017 12:55:31 pm

It seems like he watches a lot of Ancient Aliens, and also has a copy of 10,000 BC, (Pyramids and Orion even though Egypt didn't call it Orion), and that other Cameron one on the Pyramids. Roland Emmerich must be amused.

Also he and Wolter should get together. They like seeing patterns where none, or little exist.

As Neil DeGrasse Tyson said, "The worst kind of theory comes from eyewitness testimony, which says nothing of the justice system."

Science cannot be based on guesses and unprovable theories

So much of this book has bizarre thinking that to analyze it is folly.

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Americanegro
8/22/2017 01:35:25 pm

I stopped listening when you cited NDG. He's a retard and it's documented that he gets a lot of basic stuff wrong. On the bright side he's presentable and well-spoken.

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David Bradbury
8/22/2017 04:10:10 pm

Have you tried calling him a retard to his face?

David Bradbury
8/22/2017 04:31:27 pm

PS: Neil deGrasse Tyson's famous comment after getting two out of-three questions about cosmetology wrong on " Wait Wait...Don't Tell Me!":
"having gotten two wrong, I learned two things today."

Americanegro
8/22/2017 04:55:13 pm

"DAVID BRADBURY
8/22/2017 04:10:10 pm
Have you tried calling him a retard to his face?"

Are you REALLY playing the "Let's you and Neil DeGrassi Junior High Tyson fight" card? You may have just invented an internet meme.

I understand, he's a black man so he's scary to you, but I don't live in that world.

David Bradbury
8/22/2017 06:05:19 pm

Not fight in the physical sense. Tyson certainly does get-things wrong sometimes, particularly when he's outside his area of expertise- but he thinks and acts like a man who values truth. You: not so much.

Kal
8/22/2017 01:50:20 pm

Listening? To a typed comment? You have that Dragon Naturally Speaking software?

Calling an astrophysicist (with more degrees than any of the commenters will ever get) names really makes you feel important, doesn't it?

Bandying out comments about mental issues shows a level of maturity and social grace different from oh, fifty others like it.




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Americanegro
8/22/2017 05:06:06 pm

Maybe slow down, take a breath, gather your thoughts and make a point people can understand. Do you have a history of people talking about your mental issues?

Yes, I said I stopped listening, because there's no good analogy between listen and hearing and reading and [______]. I didn't stop reading, I stopped listening. If you don't like that you shove it up your stone hole.

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David Bradbvury
8/22/2017 06:07:22 pm

You mean you stopped paying attention?

Americanegro
8/22/2017 07:01:49 pm

My! That's a huge hardon you've got there, Dave!

Joe Scales
8/22/2017 09:23:26 pm

Well, at least now we know where that hyphen actually belongs.

RiverM
8/23/2017 09:56:32 am

No good analogy when you see fit, or is it hear fit?

Pops
8/23/2017 12:23:31 pm

Americanegro is just showing his conservative anti-intellectualism. Republicans shun actual experts because of being too"liberal" or something like that. It doesn't matter how much degrees or expertise you have the conservatives just don't want to hear it. All thanks to teabaggers and the Religious Right that have taken over the party. Remember Christine O Donnel, Ann coulter, Ken Ham, etc, etc, etc, etc...

Americanegro
8/23/2017 11:57:54 pm

I remember the American Civil War, Wilson's segregation of the federal Government, Dallas, and the Gulf of Tonkin. And yes ma'am, anyone with multiple degrees will tell you degrees don't mean shit.

Do you have a history of people talking about your mental issues? It's okay, no one else can see this. Just you and me.

Only Me
8/22/2017 03:26:17 pm

It's not just the separate ideas with paper thin connections, the recycling of old grievances or the shallowness of the material itself: there is no sense of identity for the book or even the authors.

It seems the authors turned the claims of other fringe pundits into ingredients to create what is presented. A hint of Graham Hancock, a dab of David Wilcock, a pinch of Erich von Däniken, etc. It's really hard to present the material as anything new when it is has been borrowed piecemeal.

Anyone familiar with the material and its resources, but not familiar with CW or Bauval, will come away with two questions: Who are these guys and what was the point?

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TONY S.
8/22/2017 07:43:14 pm

Not a big surprise. Like you, Jason, I've suspected it ever since Bauval cited Temple's THE SIRIUS MYSTERY.

Hancock read it too, referencing it in FINGERPRINTS OF THE GODS. Then Hancock has the nerve to feign outrage whenever anyone calls him out as an AA theorist whenever he appears on panels with them at AA conventions. True, he said he didn't agree with that part of Temple's book, but he isn't as completely divorced from the AA crowd and their beliefs as he likes to project. I wonder how long it will be before he comes out of the AA closet too.

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OCS
8/22/2017 09:53:25 pm

At least he is right about one thing in the book. "When he sees a 96, for example, he knows bad things are going to happen, while the number 3 is good for him." I've experienced the same thing where some number are "good" and some "bad". Of course I was standing next to the roulette table in Vegas at the time. I wonder if that had anything to do with it.

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Uncle Ron
8/22/2017 10:03:42 pm

And now for something completely different.

"When <Bauval> sees a 96, for example, he knows bad things are going to happen." If he just reverses the numbers he might find that something good is going to happen!

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Ghost of Hustler Past
8/22/2017 10:37:34 pm

69 is a polite way of saying "your snout in someone's butthole". Transmission ends.

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Americanegro
8/22/2017 10:47:05 pm

Just throwing this in because this is the current thread.

"Scott WolterJuly 26, 2017 at 2:23 PM
Pasadena,

I'll be revealing some of the new information in my lecture in Maine late next month. Don't want to jump the shark too early."

Don't want to jump the shark too early. What a retard.

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Joe Scales
8/23/2017 10:23:39 am

That he's vetting his groundbreaking historical takes through a hunt club is funny enough... but if he actually knew what "jumping the shark" was, he'd realize he'd already done so long ago.

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Kal
8/23/2017 12:54:49 am

"I stopped watching, reading or paying attention." Not listening. You cannot listen to words written, unless you have a device that reads if to you.

I believe the article mentions the mental issues of one of the authors, not the troll. The rest of the bandying is likely the troll.

Niel Tyson once inhaled. That makes him da bomb.

Also 69 is a lucky number, depending on the giver-receiver relationship, but 96 is back to back, and does nothing.

As Redd Fox used to say about 69, "The nose knows", in his famous sketch about men washing properly..




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Americanegro
8/23/2017 02:23:37 am

If you put stuff that you make up in quotes, that's fine, but it doesn't affect me.

The rest of your post is gibberish, and I guess your Redd Foxx quote is somehow meant to advocate man on man sex, but that's not my business. Have at it!

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David Bradbury
8/23/2017 03:38:19 am

"your Redd Foxx quote is somehow meant to advocate man on man sex"
For 69 purposes, the principle applies equally to women.

Americanegro
8/23/2017 04:42:30 pm

The image of you 69ing with a drizzly dowager doesn't do it for me.

Bob Jase
8/23/2017 12:33:23 pm

So aliens seeded life on Earth ~ 3,500,000,000 years ago then waited 3,499,999,999 years to perform step two and induce an intelligent species to develope?

What were the aliens doing all those years in between?

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Kal
8/23/2017 12:43:05 pm

No, it's a 'loved one' and he liked girls, but you apparently don't get it, so here's the link to this well known sketch from the period. It was also on a record.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uldt6Y-CE3s&ytbChannel=onetwosixx

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Americanegro
8/23/2017 02:53:45 pm

I think you like girls too and I'm pretty sure you have a court mandated sign in your front yard and get annual visits from the police on Halloween just so they know where you are.

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Kal
8/23/2017 10:45:09 pm


AN can't open a link, so he lashes out and accuses posters of being court ordered not to be around 'girls', which is false, and defamatory, but we will not sue, as it is not worth it. This person does not know that.

I suspect the jokes about the number 69 were meant to be for adults only, but for some reason, the topic has completely devolved into a base typing argument over random cursing. Great.

This stuff can sometimes be more fun than the old Reddit days.

I wonder how many cease a desists some of them get for using known famous web names as their fake posting name here? Oh well.









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Americanegro
8/24/2017 02:46:06 am

Saying I can't open a link is defamatory (LAWSUIT) but let's talk about your pedophilia. Your move.

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Steve StC
8/27/2017 10:46:56 pm

American Negro, you are a vile and hateful piece of filth. You make this hateful site far worse.

Mariam Katherine
8/24/2017 04:45:56 pm

AmericaNegro seems to relish in picking on children, especially socially awkward autistic children who post on this site, so if anyone has an order out not to go around them, it is him.

I never post here, but today I learned what at least one of you was doing, and thought to comment right here. Stop cyber bullying children on this web site, now! Especially my little brother, who goes by Kal. (It's a surname, or part of one).

And I don't care if one of you comments that, oh the boy got his big sister to come on and stick up for him. So what?. Well, maybe if there were more people sticking up for others, there would be less cyber bullying.

Taking time out of my schedule to go swat a fly. MK.

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wow
8/24/2017 05:30:15 pm

Wow. Don't know if that's douchery or performance art. Maybe your little brother should treat triggers like peanuts and not seek them out?

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Women and Child Hospital link
11/10/2017 11:19:37 pm

Hi to every one, the contents existing at this website are genuinely awesome for people experience, well, keep up the good work.

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The Semite link
7/23/2018 09:33:58 am

1. Robert Bauval plagiarized part of my work which I published online (and into a book) after attaching the word 'mystery' to it and assigning a whole section (and commissioned another third author) in appendix III for it.
Link: https://thesemite.wordpress.com/2018/06/16/the-plagiarism-of-robert-bauval/
2. Robert Bauval did the same before with the OCT which he himself did NOT lay the foundation thereof; he's rather committed the same plagiaristic scheme as the one mentioned above with another author (Dr. James J. Hurtak).
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FnPGsGI53c

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      • Review of Civilization One
      • Who Lost the Middle Ages
      • Charioteer of the Gods
    • Collection: Ancient History >
      • Prehistoric Nuclear War
      • The China Syndrome
      • Atlantis, Mu, and the Maya
      • Easter Island Exposed
      • Who Built the Sphinx?
      • Who Built the Great Pyramid?
      • Archaeological Cover Up?
    • Collection: The Lovecraft Legacy >
      • Pauwels, Bergier, and Lovecraft
      • Lovecraft in Bergier
      • Lovecraft and Scientology
    • Collection: UFOs >
      • Alien Abduction at the Outer Limits
      • Aliens and Anal Probes
      • Ultra-Terrestrials and UFOs
      • Rebels, Queers, and Aliens
    • Scholomance: The Devil's School
    • Prehistory of Chupacabra
    • The Templars, the Holy Grail, & Henry Sinclair
    • Magicians of the Gods Review
    • The Curse of the Pharaohs
    • The Antediluvian Pyramid Myth
    • Whitewashing American Prehistory
    • James Dean's Cursed Porsche
  • The Library
    • Ancient Mysteries >
      • Ancient Texts >
        • Mesopotamian Texts >
          • Atrahasis Epic
          • Epic of Gilgamesh
          • Kutha Creation Legend
          • Babylonian Creation Myth
          • Descent of Ishtar
          • Berossus
          • Comparison of Antediluvian Histories
        • Egyptian Texts >
          • The Shipwrecked Sailor
          • Dream Stela of Thutmose IV
          • The Papyrus of Ani
          • Classical Accounts of the Pyramids
          • Inventory Stela
          • Manetho
          • Eratosthenes' King List
          • The Story of Setna
          • Leon of Pella
          • Diodorus on Egyptian History
          • On Isis and Osiris
          • Famine Stela
          • Old Egyptian Chronicle
          • The Book of Sothis
          • Horapollo
          • Al-Maqrizi's King List
        • Teshub and the Dragon
        • Hermetica >
          • The Three Hermeses
          • Kore Kosmou
          • Corpus Hermeticum
          • The Asclepius
          • The Emerald Tablet
          • Hermetic Fragments
          • Prologue to the Kyranides
          • The Secret of Creation
          • Ancient Alphabets Explained
          • Prologue to Ibn Umayl's Silvery Water
          • Book of the 24 Philosophers
          • Aurora of the Philosophers
        • Hesiod's Theogony
        • Periplus of Hanno
        • Ctesias' Indica
        • Sanchuniathon
        • Sima Qian
        • Syncellus's Enoch Fragments
        • The Book of Enoch
        • Slavonic Enoch
        • Sepher Yetzirah
        • Tacitus' Germania
        • De Dea Syria
        • Aelian's Various Histories
        • Julius Africanus' Chronography
        • Eusebius' Chronicle
        • Chinese Accounts of Rome
        • Ancient Chinese Automaton
        • The Orphic Argonautica
        • Fragments of Panodorus
        • Annianus on the Watchers
        • The Watchers and Antediluvian Wisdom
      • Medieval Texts >
        • Medieval Legends of Ancient Egypt >
          • Medieval Pyramid Lore
          • John Malalas on Ancient Egypt
          • Fragments of Abenephius
          • Akhbar al-zaman
          • Ibrahim ibn Wasif Shah
          • Murtada ibn al-‘Afif
          • Al-Maqrizi on the Pyramids
          • Al-Suyuti on the Pyramids
        • The Hunt for Noah's Ark
        • Isidore of Seville
        • Book of Liang: Fusang
        • Agobard on Magonia
        • Book of Thousands
        • Voyage of Saint Brendan
        • Power of Art and of Nature
        • Travels of Sir John Mandeville
        • Yazidi Revelation and Black Book
        • Al-Biruni on the Great Flood
        • Voyage of the Zeno Brothers
        • The Kensington Runestone (Hoax)
        • Islamic Discovery of America
        • The Aztec Creation Myth
      • Lost Civilizations >
        • Atlantis >
          • Plato's Atlantis Dialogues >
            • Timaeus
            • Critias
          • Fragments on Atlantis
          • Panchaea: The Other Atlantis
          • Eumalos on Atlantis (Hoax)
          • Gómara on Atlantis
          • Sardinia and Atlantis
          • Santorini and Atlantis
          • The Mound Builders and Atlantis
          • Donnelly's Atlantis
          • Atlantis in Morocco
          • Atlantis and the Sea Peoples
          • W. Scott-Elliot >
            • The Story of Atlantis
            • The Lost Lemuria
          • The Lost Atlantis
          • Atlantis in Africa
          • How I Found Atlantis (Hoax)
          • Termier on Atlantis
          • The Critias and Minoan Crete
          • Rebuttal to Termier
          • Further Responses to Termier
          • Flinders Petrie on Atlantis
        • Lost Cities >
          • Miscellaneous Lost Cities
          • The Seven Cities
          • The Lost City of Paititi
          • Manuscript 512
          • The Idolatrous City of Iximaya (Hoax)
          • The 1885 Moberly Lost City Hoax
          • The Elephants of Paredon (Hoax)
        • OOPARTs
        • Oronteus Finaeus Antarctica Map
        • Caucasians in Panama
        • Jefferson's Excavation
        • Fictitious Discoveries in America
        • Against Diffusionism
        • Tunnels Under Peru
        • The Parahyba Inscription (Hoax)
        • Mound Builders
        • Gunung Padang
        • Tales of Enchanted Islands
        • The 1907 Ancient World Map Hoax
        • The 1909 Grand Canyon Hoax
        • The Interglacial Period
        • Solving Oak Island
      • Religious Conspiracies >
        • Pantera, Father of Jesus?
        • Toledot Yeshu
        • Peter of les Vaux-de-Cernay on Cathars
        • Testimony of Jean de Châlons
        • Rosslyn Chapel and the 'Prentice's Pillar
        • The Many Wives of Jesus
        • Templar Infiltration of Labor
        • Louis Martin & the Holy Bloodline
        • The Life of St. Issa (Hoax)
        • On the Person of Jesus Christ
      • Giants in the Earth >
        • Fossil Origins of Myths >
          • Fossil Teeth and Bones of Elephants
          • Fossil Elephants
          • Fossil Bones of Teutobochus
          • Fossil Mammoths and Giants
          • Giants' Bones Dug Out of the Earth
          • Fossils and the Supernatural
          • Fossils, Myth, and Pseudo-History
          • Man During the Stone Age
          • Fossil Bones and Giants
          • American Elephant Myths
          • The Mammoth and the Flood
          • Fossils and Myth
          • Fossil Origin of the Cyclops
          • Mastodon, Mammoth, and Man
        • Fragments on Giants
        • Manichaean Book of Giants
        • Geoffrey on British Giants
        • Alfonso X's Hermetic History of Giants
        • Boccaccio and the Fossil 'Giant'
        • Book of Howth
        • Purchas His Pilgrimage
        • Edmond Temple's 1827 Giant Investigation
        • The Giants of Sardinia
        • Giants and the Sons of God
        • The Magnetism of Evil
        • Tertiary Giants
        • Smithsonian Giant Reports
        • Early American Giants
        • The Giant of Coahuila
        • Jewish Encyclopedia on Giants
        • Index of Giants
        • Newspaper Accounts of Giants
        • Lanier's A Book of Giants
      • Science and History >
        • Halley on Noah's Comet
        • The Newport Tower
        • Iron: The Stone from Heaven
        • Ararat and the Ark
        • Pyramid Facts and Fancies
        • Argonauts before Homer
        • The Deluge
        • Crown Prince Rudolf on the Pyramids
        • Old Mythology in New Apparel
        • Blavatsky on Dinosaurs
        • Teddy Roosevelt on Bigfoot
        • Devil Worship in France
        • Maspero's Review of Akhbar al-zaman
        • The Holy Grail as Lucifer's Crown Jewel
        • The Mutinous Sea
        • The Rock Wall of Rockwall
        • Fabulous Zoology
        • The Origins of Talos
        • Mexican Mythology
        • Chinese Pyramids
        • Maqrizi's Names of the Pharaohs
      • Extreme History >
        • Roman Empire Hoax
        • American Antiquities
        • American Cataclysms
        • England, the Remnant of Judah
        • Historical Chronology of the Mexicans
        • Maspero on the Predynastic Sphinx
        • Vestiges of the Mayas
        • Ragnarok: The Age of Fire and Gravel
        • Origins of the Egyptian People
        • The Secret Doctrine >
          • Volume 1: Cosmogenesis
          • Volume 2: Anthropogenesis
        • Phoenicians in America
        • The Electric Ark
        • Traces of European Influence
        • Prince Henry Sinclair
        • Pyramid Prophecies
        • Templars of Ancient Mexico
        • Chronology and the "Riddle of the Sphinx"
        • The Faith of Ancient Egypt
        • Spirit of the Hour in Archaeology
        • Book of the Damned
        • Great Pyramid As Noah's Ark
        • Richard Shaver's Proofs
    • Alien Encounters >
      • US Government Ancient Astronaut Files >
        • Fortean Society and Columbus
        • Inquiry into Shaver and Palmer
        • The Skyfort Document
        • Whirling Wheels
        • Denver Ancient Astronaut Lecture
        • Soviet Search for Lemuria
        • Visitors from Outer Space
        • Unidentified Flying Objects (Abstract)
        • "Flying Saucers"? They're a Myth
        • UFO Hypothesis Survival Questions
        • Air Force Academy UFO Textbook
        • The Condon Report on Ancient Astronauts
        • Atlantis Discovery Telegrams
        • Ancient Astronaut Society Telegram
        • Noah's Ark Cables
        • The Von Daniken Letter
        • CIA Psychic Probe of Ancient Mars
        • Scott Wolter Lawsuit
        • UFOs in Ancient China
        • CIA Report on Noah's Ark
        • CIA Noah's Ark Memos
        • Congressional Ancient Aliens Testimony
        • Ancient Astronaut and Nibiru Email
        • Congressional Ancient Mars Hearing
        • House UFO Hearing
      • Ancient Extraterrestrials >
        • Premodern UFO Sightings
        • The Moon Hoax
        • Inhabitants of Other Planets
        • Blavatsky on Ancient Astronauts
        • The Stanzas of Dzyan (Hoax)
        • Aerolites and Religion
        • What Is Theosophy?
        • Plane of Ether
        • The Adepts from Venus
      • A Message from Mars
      • Saucer Mystery Solved?
      • Orville Wright on UFOs
      • Interdimensional Flying Saucers
      • Flying Saucers Are Real
      • Report on UFOs
    • The Supernatural >
      • The Devils of Loudun
      • Sublime and Beautiful
      • Voltaire on Vampires
      • Demonology and Witchcraft
      • Thaumaturgia
      • Bulgarian Vampires
      • Religion and Evolution
      • Transylvanian Superstitions
      • Defining a Zombie
      • Dread of the Supernatural
      • Vampires
      • Werewolves and Vampires and Ghouls
      • Science and Fairy Stories
      • The Cursed Car
    • Classic Fiction >
      • Lucian's True History
      • Some Words with a Mummy
      • The Coming Race
      • King Solomon's Mines
      • An Inhabitant of Carcosa
      • The Xipéhuz
      • Lot No. 249
      • The Novel of the Black Seal
      • The Island of Doctor Moreau
      • Pharaoh's Curse
      • Edison's Conquest of Mars
      • The Lost Continent
      • Count Magnus
      • The Mysterious Stranger
      • The Wendigo
      • Sredni Vashtar
      • The Lost World
      • The Red One
      • H. P. Lovecraft >
        • Dagon
        • The Call of Cthulhu
        • History of the Necronomicon
        • At the Mountains of Madness
        • Lovecraft's Library in 1932
      • The Skeptical Poltergeist
      • The Corpse on the Grating
      • The Second Satellite
      • Queen of the Black Coast
      • A Martian Odyssey
    • Classic Genre Movies
    • Miscellaneous Documents >
      • The Balloon-Hoax
      • A Problem in Greek Ethics
      • The Migration of Symbols
      • The Gospel of Intensity
      • De Profundis
      • The Life and Death of Crown Prince Rudolf
      • The Bathtub Hoax
      • Crown Prince Rudolf's Letters
      • Position of Viking Women
      • Employment of Homosexuals
      • James Dean's Scrapbook
      • James Dean's Love Letters
      • The Amazing James Dean Hoax!
    • Free Classic Pseudohistory eBooks
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