Atlantis Found is the History Channel’s latest stab at trying to uncover the supposed truth behind the lost continent of Atlantis, and like its previous efforts, it relies on untenable assumptions to force Plato’s fictitious allegory into the framework of history. This version makes no bones about the fact that it intends to identify Atlantis with the island of Santorini, ancient Thera, which was destroyed by a volcanic eruption sometime around 1620 BCE. “I’m putting all my money that the lost civilization of Atlantis is right here,” says Dr. Martin Pepper, our geologist protagonist, as on-screen titles tell us that this documentary is set up like a found-footage horror movie recording an expedition to seek out Atlantis in the summer of 2015. “This is what they found,” the titles ominously conclude. “Found” is a bit of an overstatement; “recycled from earlier Atlantis claims” might have been a bit more accurate, as the show concedes at the end when the narrator explains that it was “building” on earlier claims. Atlantis Found offers nothing much that is new, quite a bit that is old, and a selective discussion of the Platonic dialogues that suggests that the producers are either purposely looking to bolster their case through omission or genuinely don’t understand their own source material. Worse, it is slow, repetitive, and larded with low-budget reenactments that stretch less than an hour’s worth of content into two hours of air time. The narrator lionizes Pepper, formerly of the Science Channel’s How the Earth Works (2013), as “not a desk-bound academic” and informs us that “experts” are “increasingly” sure that Atlantis was a real place. That has never been true unless “increasingly” is meant to cover the fact that the number never was a majority.
Pepper has created a “roadmap” to find Atlantis based on details taken selectively from the Timaeus and the Critias, Plato’s two Atlantis dialogues that he then tries to match to the volcanic destruction of Thera, seen in cinematic recreations. These details include a link to Egypt, and advanced civilization, a ringed city, colored rocks, etc. He leaves out one key detail from the Critias that would undercut his entire claim: “Moreover, there were a great number of elephants in the island,” Plato wrote (all translation are to Benjamin Jowett’s edition of the Timaeus and Critias). Where are our elephants? I demand elephants! We can’t have elephants, of course, because to find “Atlantis” is to pick and choose only those details one prefers to keep and omit all the rest, such as the fact that Plato placed the destruction of Atlantis around 9600 BCE, some 8,000 years before the volcano destroyed ancient Thera. If we are allowed to pick only specific details, we can “match” Atlantis to anything. This prompts a long discussion of the effects of the volcano and some rhetorical questions that ask us whether Atlantis’s various monuments “could have” been located on a hypothetical island that might have once existed where now there is only water in the collapsed cone of the volcano. Pepper eventually concludes that Santorini had the required ring-shaped structure to match Plato’s description despite finding no solid evidence of this. The trouble is that Pepper isn’t a historian, and isn’t really well-versed in Greek mythology, so instead of trying to understand what Plato meant by Atlantis, he is instead back-forming his idea by trying to match geology to an ancient text before bothering to establish whether there is any warrant for doing so. He might just as well go searching for Panchaea, Utopia, Frisland, Lilliput, the Island of Dr. Moreau, Isla Nublar, or any other imaginary island. One can find a “match” to selected details, but it won’t mean anything if you can’t show an actual connection to the texts that supposedly prompted the search. Pepper also tries to match Minoan civilization on the island to the “advanced” civilization of Atlantis. The trouble is that Plato’s Atlantis wasn’t particularly advanced, except in its use of metals that don’t appear on Santorini. Beyond this, the Greeks were familiar with the Minoans and retained memories of their civilization, as evidenced from the myth of Theseus and the Minotaur, not to mention the Bronze Age civilizations recalled in Homeric myths. It is unclear how we can propose a separate and confused myth of the same Bronze Age civilization that is wildly inaccurate and placed so far out of time. Pepper declares Santorini “definitely a match” for Atlantis’ civilization despite the lack of orichalcum, the mythic metal Plato associated with Atlantis, and the lack of elephants, or even an association between Santorini and Poseidon and Atlas, as in the dialogues. As the first hour comes to a close, the show decides to bring in Nazis—because this is the History Channel! But to get to that point, the show needs to set up a straw man argument, that the Canary Islands are the remnants of Atlantis, for Pepper to disprove to make his own suggestion look more credible. Pepper tells us that Athanasius Kircher, the seventeenth century polymath, placed Atlantis in the Atlantic, where the Canaries now are. He then reviews Ignatius Donnelly’s version, which did not make the Canaries part of the continent itself. This brings us to Heinrich Himmler and his search for Aryan cultures derived from Atlantis and other lost continents. Pepper neglects to note that Donnelly had inspired such ideas by specifying that the Atlanteans were a lost white race who became the gods of old and the Biblical men of renown. In the Canary Islands, Pepper looks at Guanche mummies to see if they could be Atlanteans. The Guanche might have inhabited the Canaries from 1000 BCE. The program tells us that the “mysterious” Guanche people were tall and white, so much so that they impressed the Spanish with their lost white race magnificence. Yes, “the glory of Atlantis” (as the show puts it) is once again associated with the whiteness of one’s skin. In case anyone cares, when Al-Idrisi wrote of the same people 400 years earlier, he called them “men of tall stature and red color” (Nuzhat al-Mushtaq 4.1). It just goes to show you that impressions are subjective. Pepper concludes, correctly, that the Canaries were not part of a lost continent, but since Plato was wrong about the location of Atlantis, this makes it hard to argue that any other claim from Plato is necessarily true. To do so anyway, he now intends to rescue Plato’s account by “proving” that the remainder of it is factual. Therefore, he plans to look for evidence of Plato’s fictitious war between Athens and Atlantis. To do so, Pepper is looking to confirm the claim made by Plato that the Athens of 9,600 BCE (which date he of course rejects) accurately depicts the Mycenaean Acropolis, including a fortification and a now-dry spring. I covered this topic back in April, before this documentary went into production. As I noted at the time, the fortification walls were well-known in Plato’s day (cf. Herodotus, Histories 6.137.2), and the dry spring was visible down to the 1820s, when it was finally covered over. In other words, Plato needed no special knowledge from the Bronze Age describe the ancient Acropolis, but Pepper nevertheless concludes that Plato’s description is so accurate that it gives him confidence that the rest of the description is correct. He further speculates that Plato made up the Pillars of Hercules to adapt an Egyptian story for Greek ears, despite there being no evidence of such an Egyptian story. In the second hour, a 3D map of the water-filled collapsed Santorini volcanic cone, the caldera, made by a team of geologists from two types of scans, concludes that Santorini’s shape was once round rather than the broken circle we see today. The geologists also “revealed here for the first time” that there was a small channel “cut through the caldera rim.” The channel, which was 500 meters wide before the Thera eruption, is now much wider. They call this a “ship canal” from Plato’s description, but they do not provide any evidence that this channel was artificial rather than natural. Plato was quite clear on this point: “And beginning from the sea they bored a canal of three hundred feet in width and one hundred feet in depth and fifty stadia in length, which they carried through to the outermost zone…” The narrator and our hero dismiss Plato’s account again, saying that the “memory” of the channel through the outer ring was distorted over time into a claim of canals linking multiple rings. Let me stop and repeat this: Pepper is willfully ignoring huge chunks of Plato, declaring them inoperative, and nevertheless concluding that he has found an exact match. Next, the documentary shows us a fresco of sailing from Santorini, which the show pretends is somehow new and exciting. It was featured on In Search of Aliens last year in their Atlantis show! It’s also on Wikipedia. Pepper places great emphasis on Atlantis as a trading empire, though Plato didn’t describe it as such; instead, he described it as a true empire, ruling outright islands and part of its continent and “the men of Atlantis had subjected the parts of Libya within the columns of Heracles as far as Egypt, and of Europe as far as Tyrrhenia.” Where is the evidence of this? Or are we “discounting” that, too? In the last half hour, Pepper travels to Egypt to try to prove that Plato got the story from the priests of Egypt, via his ancestor, Solon. Pepper believes that the Egyptians remembered the fall of Santorini, told to them by a survivor, though there is no evidence that they considered the Minoans to be formidable enemies. Instead, they seem to have been trusted trading partners. It was the Sea Peoples that the Egyptians loathed. Besides, the destruction of Thera did not end Minoan civilization, nor did it cause the Bronze Age collapse, both of which occurred several centuries later. Dr. Elena Pischikova argues that a fragmentary text found broken in a wall at Luxor describes the Santorini eruption, the only text to do so. It is ascribed to the reign of what I believe is Ahmose I, though the pronunciation the narrator gave made it hard to match to a pharaoh. The mummy they show seems to be a match for his, though. The trouble is that Ahmose I reigned a century after the Santorini eruption and couldn’t have been an eyewitness. (There is some dispute about the exact date of the eruption, with some arguing that the radiocarbon dates are inaccurate and should be revised to around 1500 BCE; however, tree ring and ice core dating suggest a date in the 1620s BCE.) As the show moves toward its conclusion, Pepper looks for evidence that Bronze Age people had lots of different plants, to match Plato’s description of a land of plenty. This is such a standard description of magical islands in Greek literature that it isn’t worth discussing. Compared to the harsh landscape of Greece, every area was a land of plenty to the Greeks. In the last minutes of the show, the geological team explains that the eruption occurred from the center of the ring, and they conclude that there was an island in the center of the caldera large enough to have held a city, roughly the size of downtown Manhattan—not that they have any evidence of such a city. This should not be a surprise to anyone since the magma emerging from the volcano created successive volcanic cones that eventually erupted; in other words, there was always a central island, except in the centuries immediately following an eruption before a new one formed. “That’s exactly how Plato describes Atlantis!” Pepper enthuses, forgetting that Plato also told us that Atlantis is gone forever while Santorini is not, and mentioned no volcano. Indeed, he mentions no explosion either. He says that the island was shaken and flooded, all of the men sank into the earth, and then the island descended into the sea. This does not match the Santorini event, which did not have pre-eruption flooding according to the evidence, and had no moment when the men all sank into the ground. Oh, and Plato also said a giant wall of mud took its place. The narrator speculates that history would have been very different had the “Atlantean” advanced kingdom “not been destroyed” but neglects to note that Santrorini was merely an outpost of the more powerful Minoan civilization which went on for hundreds of years and somehow failed to create a utopia of peace. Besides, didn’t Plato tell us in the Critias that Atlantis was corrupt and warlike? Why would we want more of that? Oh, right: We’re not interested in Atlantis as given in Plato but rather the utopian Atlantis of modern imagination, the one that is whatever we want it to be. So, our “exact” match doesn’t match:
But otherwise, it’s exactly as Plato described!
62 Comments
Kal
10/20/2015 01:16:32 pm
Did the original Plato text say it was a continent or as big as Libya, or either? It seems to grow larger each time the story is retold. It's not Santarini, as that was one of the places from a 1980s version of this story. It just is likely not a continent either. It is a metaphor. If it existed at all, it was long ago and far away in Greek antiquity. The Greeks did not sail past the straight of Gibraltar in Plato's time, so any place 'beyond the pillars' seemed far off. Perhaps this empire was actually in what is modern day Libya, or in Iraq the other way. Babylon was big back then.
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Pepper Martin
12/3/2015 10:06:54 am
According to the Harold Klempt the current spiritual leader for the religion of Eckankar, Plato got it wrong on dates because the Egyptians had several meanings for the term "years". Klempt said that the final cataclysm happened in 1198 bc during the bronze age. It was about the size of Portugal and was just west of the Straights of Gibralter. After that the Atlantians fought their way around the northern mediterranin coast to Egypt where it recorded an invasion by the "Sea Peoples" around 2000 BC. One captive when asked why were as tracking Egypt he replied our island sank.
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Eric
12/21/2015 11:53:03 pm
It's great to see all the discoveries on ancient times, although why have I never heard anyone talk about the land breach that gave way in the Straights of Gibraltar that created the Mediterranean Sea?
D P
12/31/2015 07:48:31 pm
Firstly I would like to say Santorini was part of Atlantis namley Mt Atlas, Herodotus said it was taper and round and the Minoans were the Atlantias
Bob Jase
1/1/2016 12:22:11 pm
DP, no it's not obvious that Plato accidentally read or wrote 9000 instead of 900. Plato didn't use modern numbers, the Greeks of his time had no 0.
DP
1/28/2016 06:45:14 pm
Dr Pepper 4/23/2016 06:05:53 pm
Dear Pepper Martin according to my research Atlantis is located in the sea of the Molucche - Indonesia.
Hardy Guedes Alcoforado Filho
5/22/2016 04:39:10 am
Dear Dr. Pepper, if you really want to find Atlantis, ask for my help. I studied Brazilian language of Indians and I found a place in Central America whose translated names show a possible part of Atlantis.
Christian Haak
12/9/2016 02:41:31 pm
Dear Dr. Pepper, I saw your documentary other day on the History Channel. Very interesting. I am Brazilian and recently read a series of two books, written by a spiritualist author named Roger Bottini Paranhos (https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Bottini_Paranhos), called “Atlantis, In the Kingdom of Light (volume 1)” and “Atlantis, In the Kingdom of Darkness (volume 2)”. In Portuguese... Atlântida, No Reino da Luz (volume 1) e Atlântida, No Reino das Trevas (volume 2). Both published by Editora Conhecimento.
Don Cox
5/23/2020 06:21:19 pm
Sadly the eruption took place during the rule in Egypt by the Hyksos so little records but we must remember Plato heard if from Timaeus and Critias as a boy hiding behind a curtain . they got it from solon who got it from Egyptian priest. Whilst Herodotus was told there was land in the Delta that floated (pumice perhaps) but he couldn't find it. The Deucalion and Dardanus floods are the aftermath. Not Not Not the Noah's flood ,that comes 1420 BC and it look like a flood but its not. The eruption of Santorini allowed a new minor God to flourish and we know him today
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Bob Jase
5/24/2020 10:10:10 am
we must remember Plato SAID HE heard if from Timaeus and Critias as a boy hiding behind a curtain HE SAID. they got it from solon who got it from Egyptian priest.
kal
10/20/2015 01:17:57 pm
I meant a thousand years before he lived.
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Pam
10/20/2015 02:17:01 pm
"Let me stop and repeat this: Pepper is willfully ignoring huge chunks of Plato, declaring them inoperative, and nevertheless concluding that he has found an exact match."
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Greg Little
10/20/2015 02:30:16 pm
Generally a good review. My only disagreement is what I perceive as sarcasm. Maybe the same can be said without it, but still I agree with the overall conclusion. It's the same issue all of us who have been involved in the Search for Atlantis have struggled with. We can find things that match Plato and and things that don't. Of course I fall on the side that asserts that Plato was telling a story that was accurate as far as he knew. One thing I have seen is that those who look for it tend to do their looking where it is most convenient for them. A guy in Tarpon Springs Florida found it there. Those in Spain find it there. Those in Ireland say it was there, so on with Indonesia, etc, etc. I do find it interesting that nearly everyone seems to ignore Plato's rather precise measurement of the main island where the "Center City," a hill enclosed by rings or water was located. That island with the Center City was some 340 miles by 220 miles or so. Thera isn't quite that big--it's not even close. And of course they ignore the dating of it—9600 BC. The idea linking it to Atlantis I believe emerged in the late 1960s. My reasoning is that if something asserted as Atlantis didn't date to 9600 BC it can't be Atlantis. If it isn't a large island approaching those dimensions it couldn't be Atlantis. The story is either essentially true—or not true. Plato's Atlantis either existed or it didn't. If Thera was the "inspiration" for Plato, then Atlantis never existed and it was a literary invention for the Greeks as some have argued.
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Frank
2/13/2017 01:05:04 pm
Mr. Little, generally speaking, you are, apparently, just another lost soul seeking Atlantis. And that is a shame! It's a shame that while you accuse others of ignoring particulars that Plato gives, you yourself are ignorant of those particulars. Your ignorance is made clear from what you say regarding the island, because by saying "That island with the Center City was some 340 miles by 220 miles or so.", you have not grasped the entire picture painted by Plato.
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Clete
10/20/2015 03:12:45 pm
Another "Geologist" host, who seems to have little understanding of Geologic processes. He, however, travels around picking up snippets of information, stitching them together to prove the truth of something which is more than likely only a literary invention by Plato.
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Dan C
10/20/2015 03:15:21 pm
The major problem I have is they completely ignore the FACT that the pillars are the Straights of Gibraltar. They have been known as that for thousands of years. The presenter ignores so many known facts that it makes it an interesting piece of historical fiction rather than a documentary.
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Only Me
10/20/2015 03:59:54 pm
Pepper's claims would have greater standing if he had produced a bar of le-...I-I mean a bar of orichalcum.
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DaveR
10/21/2015 08:43:53 am
How about a big old bar of unobtanium?
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busterggi (Bob Jase)
10/21/2015 02:00:58 pm
I'm holding out for Upsidaisium myslef.
Jean Stone
10/21/2015 05:34:31 pm
Please, all true scholars of Atlantis know that orichalcum comes in beads. Indiana Jones proved it when he discovered the lost city in the 1940's... a telling that manages to be a lot more entertaining than the nth iteration of 'If we ignore this and this and this and squint REALLY hard, we can totally find Atlantis, anywhere we care to look'.
pooooo
2/22/2016 01:51:09 am
w22x
Eric S
10/20/2015 05:30:25 pm
This would have been much better if they had gone into how the Thera eruption could have been linked to the Exodus. Santorini has lots of red igneous rock. The early eruptions could have sent an ash cloud to Egypt that would have choked the rivers and blocked the sun, causing most of the plagues. If the Israelites crossed the Sea of Reeds at Abu Sefeh, the final cataclysmic explosion would have caused a tsunami that would have had a straight shot at the Nile delta, flooding the area.
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busterggi (Bob Jase)
10/21/2015 02:01:43 pm
Problem is the exodus never happened - there are zero archeological traces of it.
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V
10/21/2015 06:06:30 pm
We can't say that it "never happened," we can only say that we have not found any traces of it. Sorry to be pedantic, but I feel that precision is important. Extremely unlikely and absolutely not are different things.
matti vooro
10/25/2015 02:27:40 pm
Eric
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Hardy Guedes
5/22/2016 04:59:42 am
That was what actually happened and is narrated in the Bible as if Moses had made the sea open.
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Scott Hamilton
10/20/2015 05:46:02 pm
Atlantis and Jack the Ripper -- the two mysteries that are solved anew every two or three years.
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V
10/21/2015 06:08:22 pm
Of the two, Jack the Ripper is the one known to be entirely non-fictional, though. ...also the latest one that I've heard is probably the most compelling; for one, the suspect can actually be nailed down as having been at one of the crime scenes, and pretty close to the time of death, at that. Plus it came off of Smithsonian Channel, which is at least more reputable than most on that front.
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Bob Jase
10/20/2015 06:33:10 pm
Next up - Jim and Bill Vieira 'prove' the Goshen Tunnel is Plato's cave.
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SouthCoast
10/21/2015 12:58:49 am
"Where are our elephants? I demand elephants!" Not to side with Pepper the Regurgitant, but I would like to point out that the Cyprus dwarf elephant survived on (not surprisingly) Cyprus until about 10000 BC. It was also found on other Mediterranean islands. So there could have been elephants, anciently, on Thera, but they would have all gone up in smoke with the rest of the island. Which still be absolutely no proof of it's having been Atlantis.
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10/21/2015 06:22:09 am
I know about the dwarf elephants, whose skeletons were found throughout the Mediterranean and often mistaken for Bronze Age (human) giants. But Pepper placed the event in 1600 BCE, not 10,000 BCE, so we are short a few elephants.
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SouthCoast
10/21/2015 07:02:41 pm
True. And the most recent Mediterranean elephants (on Tilos) date no more recently than about 5000 BC, still not nearly contemporary with Atlantis. But I just tossed it in because it is *possible* there may have been elephants, but, again, given the total destruction of the island, absolutely no existing evidence. (For that matter, there have not, to the best of my knowledge, been any elephant remains found on any of the surviving archaelogical sites: such ivory as has been found has been attributed, probably quite appropriately, to Egypt.)
Hardy Guedes
5/22/2016 04:54:02 am
The correct date is actually 1600 B.C or 1,500 BC but Atlantis was in the Atlantic Ocean. The date of 11,000 BC is unrealistic because writing appeared about 5,000 years and it would be impossible for this story to remain alive in the memory for 6,000 years only by oral tradition.
When he claimed that Plato was "wrong," I wanted to knock his teeth out. I have my opinions but as a fiction writer and mythologist, I would NEVER claim one theory was right or wrong. What I will say, however, is that this guy had not the first clue what he was talking about.
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Pacal
10/23/2015 05:09:37 pm
The idea that Thera and the Minoan civilization was Atlantis has been around since the late 1920s. The whole eruption of Thera (Santorini), being the template for the destruction of Atlantis has been around since the early 1960s. The theory while having a certain plausibility then is now very dubious.
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Brian M
10/25/2015 11:33:41 am
Now you've done it. Given the History Channel's history I see a future where Scott Wolter teams up with the Lagina brothers to bring us "Search for Middle Earth and the Templar Treasure and Nazis".
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D P
12/31/2015 07:27:11 pm
It is so frustrating when experts claim that they know Plato who always searched for the truth and whose works have been a foundation for Western thought can be belittled so many times by people who don't understand Platos history and so claim he made it all up
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10/24/2015 07:14:54 pm
"to find 'Atlantis' is to pick and choose only those details one prefers to keep and omit all the rest"
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MartyR
10/25/2015 11:02:18 am
Actually, the folks of Atlantis, knowing that the nuclear reactors were about to meltdown, all moved and created Shangri-La.
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MATTI VOORO
10/25/2015 11:34:28 am
I think there is a real possibility that were two Atlantis 's. The lesser Atlantis was where Dr Pepper proposed, namely Santorini and the larger Atlantis which was where Plato said it was , namely in the middle of the Atlantic . The latter larger Atlantis was destroyed much earlier , perhaps 10,000-12,000 years ago due to a major catastrophic event in the middle of ATLANTIC like perhaps a major asteroid hitting it. There is a major fault line down the Atlantic from this event. This was also the cause of the Great flood that the bible speaks of . It was not completely destroyed but survived initially as a series of islands , many of which were destroyed in subsequent earthquake events . Some of the western Europe & Middle east and North Africa were populated from refugees from these various disasters . Only the very outer islands remain like the Azores, Canary and some Caribbean . The Egyptians fought the Atlantean ships and armies coming from the west of Egypyt as they were looking for a new home . These series of major naval battles are clearly described in the temple of MEDINET HABU in Egypt. There is a book called SURVIVORS OF ATLANTIS by FRANK JOSEPH about this early period
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10/25/2015 01:01:35 pm
I don't see why the eruption of Thera, which was a gigantic and horrific event, putting an end (slowly) to the Minoan civilization, could not have played a part in Plato's formation of the story. I'm sure the devastation it caused was still being told in stories at that time. Plato just embellished it. I've always liked the idea that the eruption formed the basis for the story. It does fit in quite a few ways other than the elephants. An entire civilization was destroyed; it's maritime structure wrecked by the tsunamis along with most of it's coastal cities. I've read that historians figure the Minoans died with the few remaining remnants conquered by Greeks within 50 years of the eruption of Thera.
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Perry
10/25/2015 11:02:36 pm
Dr.pepper could not have been more wrong in everything he said. He would learn more by reading edger cases Atlantis and save his money!
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10/26/2015 05:08:43 pm
OK, Martin Pepper was an easy match to debunk what was made up so obviously and superficially. Deviating from Plato's literal wording by cherry-picking is not allowed, of course. Quite another thing is deviating from Plato's literal wording by historical criticism. Ancient texts often suffer from mistakes which can be explained, and if there is such an explanation, things start to become interesting.
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El Cid
11/1/2015 09:43:52 pm
Putting aside the obsession by some to interpret Plato's story as a literal recollecion of historical events, it is interesting to recall that if the events of Thera damaging Minoan civilization did inspire Plato to weave a larger tale, the Thera eruption took place 'only' 400 years (roughly) before the events which inspired The Iliad.
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According to most researchers, Atlantis was the island of Santorini, the site of a gigantic volcanic eruption around 1200 BCE. The most recent (and the most convincing) documentary which aired recently on the History channel called Atlantis found. There's no doubt in my mind, that once and for all this is where Atlantis really was. Adventurer-geologist Dr. Martin Pepper set out to prove his theory – based on 10 key clues embedded in the first ever description of Atlantis by the Greek philosopher Plato (from the lost city’s strange ring-shaped design, to the role Egyptian priests played in recording the legend in the first place) and provides a match for all (except one - the Pillars of Hercules). He based his research on new scientific evidence gathered using state-of-the-art sonar scans of the sea bed and microscopic analysis of the ancient landscape as well as archaeology, Egyptian tomb writings and scientific experiments. His journey took him across the Mediterranean. By the end of the program, he reveals the stunning findings which may pinpoint the city and show exactly what it looked like. The 10 key clues included: Trading Empire, Egypt Link, Advanced Civilization, Earthquakes & Floods, Hot Springs, Swallowed by Sea, Ringed City, Colored Rocks, Land of Plenty and Ship Canal. I strongly recommend viewing the documentary and coming up with your own conclusions, I know I did, I will no longer doubt the existence of Atlantis.
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David
1/26/2016 06:30:43 pm
The thing is, was the pillars of Hercules the beginning of the world or the end, if it was the beginning Thera would then be, beyond the pillars of Hercules, if it was the end it would still be beyond the pillars, if you read too much into oral tradition you over think the problem.
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MR
12/25/2015 06:35:29 pm
I just saw this show today, and then I started searching the internet to see how "true" the show was since I am just a commoner compared to many of you.
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D P
1/1/2016 04:43:30 pm
To Bob Jase
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Robert
2/11/2016 11:26:46 am
The show was excellent! However, I was disappointed they missed one key point. Plato was Greek, and wrote in the Greek language of his time. There's a translation error. Hercules is a character from Roman mythology, based on older Greek mythology. But Plato wrote in Greek, so he would have used the Greek name. The phrase "Pillars of Hercules" does mean the Straits of Gibraltar, but "Pillars of Heracles" is completely different. That means twin peninsulas on the southern most cost of mainland Greece. So to sail beyond the Pillars of Heracles means to sail out of the Aegean Sea into the Mediterranean. There is a large island in the Mediterranean just beyond the Aegean, it's called Crete. And Crete was the origin of the Minoan people and their capital. The Minoan empire was at its height at the time the caldera at Santorini erupted. Thera (old name for Santorini) was a major cultural, religious, and technology centre for the Minoan empire. There is strong evidence the Minoans used the heat of the central island of Thera to smelt bronze. And Minoa had a type of bronze that was thousands of years more advanced than any other civilization in the Mediterranean.
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Robert
2/11/2016 12:21:43 pm
History shows the Minoan empire was at its height when the volcano erupted. Swords and armour found in graves from late Minoa were made of an alloy of bronze. Bronze at that time was copper arsenic alloy, they hadn't yet discovered copper/tin. Arsenic makes it completely stainless, bronze will last centuries without tarnishing. But Minoa discovered another ore. A blue ore sometimes found near the green ore of copper/arsenic bronze. This blue ore was copper/antimony. When alloyed with copper/arsenic bronze, the result was harder than tempered steel. Minoa made swords with a core of copper with low concentration of arsenic and no antimony at all, and the skin was copper with a high concentration of both arsenic and antimony. The result was strong and tough, would never tarnish, and as sharp as a razor. These swords were as good in every way as forge welded or Damascus steel of the late middle ages. This metal was millennia ahead of their time. It's believed Minoa used the geothermal heat of the central island of Thera to smelt their bronze, and work the metal. They didn't realize that was the top of the magma dome of a caldera.
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Robert
2/11/2016 12:38:48 pm
Already found a correction...
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Dean Monahan
2/27/2016 02:33:46 pm
Charles Pellegrino put this theory forward along linking it to the exodus . And claimed Thutmose III being the pharaoh in his book "Unearthing Atlantis".
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To Dr Martin Pepper who looks for true historical register of the time of the Lord ....
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Stephen Baker
8/7/2016 07:09:36 am
The first and most important clue is exluded in this series. In Plato's text he says that Atlantis is beyond the Pillars of Hercules this would imply that Atlantis is not in the Medteranean. This makes this series a waste of time. More than likely Atlantis is just South of Lisbon Portugal.
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Hardy Guedes
8/7/2016 12:37:16 pm
Dear Mr. Baker, Atlantis was not in South of Lisbon but in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean (the island) and some parts in Central America.
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Del
8/7/2016 01:50:38 pm
WHO WANTS TO FIGHT?!
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Dan Ivanescu
2/4/2017 04:29:11 pm
A popularizing work, typical for History Channel, nothing really new. The author(s) nonchalantly skipped all embarassing issues :)
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Matthew G Anderson
5/29/2017 03:42:01 pm
Jason Colavito you are wrong about one key thing they did find that alloy off the coast of Sicily. Atlantis? Probably not but you are the most pretentious douche bag like that Xtian turd Michael Heiser and Chris White "Preacher and shit head" I have ever run across and you can be easily debunked time and again. Today, most scholars agree orichalcum is a brass-like alloy, which was made in antiquity by cementation. This process was achieved with the reaction of zinc ore, charcoal and copper metal in a crucible.
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David C Blackman
1/18/2021 01:45:09 am
I believe Santorini is Atlantis. In programs I have watched some evidence has been overlooked. I do not believe that the Pillars Of Hercules is the Strait mentioned by Plato as the Strait silted over as per Plato and became impassible. There was a strait leading from the Mediterranean into Red Sea that became silted up in ancient times. Also Atlantis was at war with Egypt and there was an Invader of Egypt at that time called the Hyksos. Prior to this invasion the Chariot was unknown to the Egyptians because they introduced it to the Egyptians. They also had composite bows. In Plato's description of the Atlantian Army Plato said they had chariots. For more information please see my 2 part video on You Tube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9lUJ0vIoyQ&t=38s I would welcome you comments
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