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Review of The Unexplained Files' Segment on Giants in the Republic of Georgia

9/17/2014

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It’s the moment we’ve been waiting for, seemingly for weeks. Last night The Unexplained Files “Lost Giants of Georgia; Bridge of Death” went in search of giants in the Republic of Georgia with Bruce Fenton, the fringe figure who does not want to be referred to as an expert in giants but does admit to being a psychic tempunaut in contact with ancient aliens. As always, I am skipping the half of the show devoted to the supernatural, in this case a haunted Scottish bridge that allegedly drives dogs to suicide, to focus on the ancient mysteries portion of the program.

Disclosure: I filmed a segment this week for Codes & Conspiracies, which airs on American Heroes Channel, a corporate cousin of Science Channel.


We open in the forests of Georgia, in the “Valley of the Giants,” to hear about how “ancient texts” refer to giants, particularly the Gigantes of Greek myth, the Nephilim of Genesis (but of course), and primeval Norse folklore giants. This leads to the claim that “Russian news” broke the story in 2008 that giant bones had been discovered in Georgia. I discussed some of this material earlier in the summer.

Pieces of the Russian report are replayed, but the show seems to take the news story at face value. According to one of the participants, locals claimed to have found oversized bones, which prompted scientists to look into the claims. They say they found the oversized femurs and skulls of two giant humans, which the show illustrates with what I believe is 2011 Russian video of the late Georgian paleontologist Abesalom Vekua (1925-2014) holding up what is claimed to be a large human femur beside what looks like a normal human skull. Vekua is translated as saying that the bones are comparable to those of the tallest recorded humans.

The show notes that earlier Vekua had earlier discovered 1.8 million year old human bones that demonstrated humans left Africa 300,000 years earlier than previously thought. The show implies that this undermines the consensus view of human evolution by demonstrating our ignorance of our true heritage, therefore making room for giants.

Logically speaking, the discovery of older (normal-sized) human bones doesn’t imply anything about the existence of a subspecies or distinct species of giant humans.

The show claims that Vekua could have made a major breakthrough in giant research, but he tragically died before “completing his research.” Of course the giant bones are now missing and are known only from Russian TV footage. The show asks if someone is purposely concealing the bones to hide the truth. Biologist Dr. Irakli Julakidze says that Vekua forgot to tell anyone where he stored the bones, and he can’t find them without the right call number in the University archives. This bureaucratic bungling is implied to be a conspiracy, but the show dutifully notes that this could be a hoax. They rehearse the story of the Cardiff Giant, a stone statue passed off as a Bible giant in the 1860s, as one such hoax.

Julakidze says that he has given up on trying to pull the archived bones since it’s just too hard to try to find the right box number; instead, he’s taking Science Channel up on its offer to pay for a whole new expedition to the Valley of the Giants in the hope of finding more bones. As a result, the show transitions from an ancient mystery into a sort of postmortem Finding Bigfoot.

Julakidze doesn’t speak English, so the show provides him with a team of what they call “experts.” According to the narration, “One is author Bruce Fenton, who claims to have found evidence of giants on the other side of the world.” The show does not acknowledge that Fenton believes he has been in psychic contact with ancient astronauts, or that he believes that Grey aliens have visited his house. Instead, it rehearses Fenton’s claims that in Ecuador in 2012 Fenton allegedly found the Lost City of the Giants. The show does not pass judgment on this claim, but the video footage of the “city” seems to quite clearly show a geological rather than an artificial formation. Let’s recall that Fenton told me that he was not to be described as an expert on giants, and yet the show identified him as part of a “team of experts” and that he investigates a worldwide “culture of giants.” This is very different from being an expert on giants of course.

The expedition travels into the woods, and one of the team members asserts, out of context, that there is a conspiracy trying to derail the expedition—though not the TV production.

With that, we head into commercial.

After the break, Fenton, now described as “author & researcher,” narrates the group’s progress over the river and through the woods. The narrator asks whether the bones might belong to people who suffered from gigantism, a medical condition. We are introduced to a man who has this condition, but the narrator discounts the possibility of gigantism with a falsehood. It claims that because only one in 3 million people suffer gigantism, 6 million people had to live in ancient Georgia to generate enough people to experience the condition. Statistical probability does not apply in this case since agromegaly (gigantism) is a genetic condition; some families have the gene and produce giants more frequently. There is no way to know when the giants were buried, much less that they were contemporary with each other—or that they weren’t part of the same family. They might have been two people buried 500 years apart, or people who were buried in one place because they suffered from agromegaly. All this, of course, presumes that the bones are those of giants in the first place.

Fenton becomes quite excited by “big stones” that he claims are Neolithic and artificial, but the video footage reveals what look very much like naturally cleaved and eroded rocks. He jumps to the conclusion that not only are these artificial but because he sees no quarry in his line of sight that they are also evidence of dramatic stone-moving techniques. He offers no evidence that there is any indication of human occupation at the site whatsoever. The rocks are very similar to the geometric cleaves and break points seen on the hillside above Fenton, where the river has gradually cut through geological layer, forming unstable valley walls whose rocks inevitably shear off and tumble into the river below in rectangular and cubic formations due to the shape of the rock layers laid down millions of years ago.

At the Natural History Museum in London, Prof. Chris Stringer tries to explain human evolution, but the show wants to use his description to imply that there is room on the human family tree for an unknown species of giants, parallel to the ancient dwarf humans found on the island of Flores. (These were the “hobbits” that America Unearthed host Scott Wolter felt were the oceangoing magical dwarves of Hawaiian myth.) It is possible, of course; different human species had different sizes and shapes, but the show fails to note that there is no evidence whatsoever that humans of giant size ever lived. Like Scott Wolter, cryptozoologist Adam Davies also believes that the “hobbits” might still be alive in the jungles of Indonesia. The argument seems to be that if dwarf humans still exist then giants are likely to also exist, though this does not strictly follow from logic. It is TV logic, whereby when there isn’t enough material to fill a full half-hour, you bring in somewhat related ideas and then pretend they are directly relevant to your main idea. In this case, Davies took a cast of what he says is a hobbit’s footprint and sends it to Bigfoot expert Dr. Jeffrey Meldrum, last seen on In Search of Aliens declaring sexual dimorphism in Bigfoot based on the existence of different sized Bigfoot prints. Meldrum, who believes in lost species of humanoids and apes, identifies the print as of some unknown species. The trouble is that we have no way of knowing that the cast is actually of a real footprint made by an animal rather than, say, a hoax. None of this is directly relevant to the existence of ancient giants in Georgia, though.

After the break, we’re ready to bring this story to a close, and it’s clear that the producers couldn’t come up with enough material to fill the half hour with Georgian giants. Otherwise, they wouldn’t have filled the time with so much unrelated and irrelevant material to try to make an argument by implication.

When the men finally reach the spot where the bones were supposedly found in 2008, the narration becomes more bombastic… and then nothing happens. The show claims that official permission from the Department of Reserved Territories to investigate the giants’ burial site is “suddenly withdrawn without explanation.” The narrator asks whether this bureaucratic bungling—and here they are clearly shown to be talking to the government agents in a clearing with houses, some distance away from the site, not as the show implies at the site itself—is part of a vast conspiracy, one that also suppressed the bones. “Is there a conspiracy to keep hard evidence of giants secret?” the narrator asks.

Next, Georgian journalist Lela Ninua admits that she kept one of the 2008 bones as a souvenir. A sample is sent off for DNA testing, and after the segment’s final break, Dr. Mike Buckley of the University of Manchester runs the tests. Now, presumably, the Georgian government gave its permission for exporting these bone fragments, and this would seem to undermine the earlier claim that it is suppressing the truth. Or did RAW-TV, the production company, just admit to illegally removing human remains from Georgia and send them across international borders in contravention of international treaties on treatment of ancient artifacts? Buckley concludes that the bones are human, and carbon dating places them around 1000 CE. There is not DNA of sufficient quality to sequence.

Fenton, who again I remind you emphatically says he is not an expert on giants, tells the producers that he plans to continue researching giants to “prove” their existence. Just not expertly. Completely amateur proof, of course.

The show concludes by thanking Georgia for saving this segment by giving them the raw materials for creating a conspiracy theory to cover up and distract from the fact that the “giant” bones were actually those of medieval humans. Well, not really; it actually darkly implies that ancient giants cannot be discounted until Georgia gives “full permission” to investigate.

45 Comments
Duke of URL
9/17/2014 03:07:32 am

"tempunaut"... tempaunaut? temporanaut? temporalnaut? temponut? AAARRGGGH...

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Jason Colavito link
9/17/2014 03:29:52 am

"Tempunaut" is how Philip K. Dick spelled it in "A Little Something for Us Tempunauts" (1975).

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Phillip
9/17/2014 10:14:54 pm

The brief Philip K Dick nod above was far better on my eyes than the dribble that passes for science these days. I am an expert on pink beams from god as valis. I have several books as evidence. When do I get my fringe show?
The 2nd coming was born in Sri Lanka 30 years ago!!! Jason, could you get me in touch with H2, I need to inform them of my Ancient Aliens script based on PKDs direct contact with "otherworldly beings". He was too stupid to write wonderful novels, so, god, via pink beam alien, equals Scanner Darkly

Only Me
9/17/2014 05:08:05 am

This is great. Let's say, for the sake of argument, the bones *are* from giants. The test Dr. Buckley performed dated them to around 1000 CE. Imagine that, a case of medieval humans that displayed gigantism. As stated, this doesn't prove a distinct or sub-species of humans that were exclusively gigantic. Or a "culture" of the same.

Tough luck for Fenton. He's going to have to try harder if he wants to rewrite human evolution or history.

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EP
9/17/2014 06:01:21 am

Is it just me, or has this been a total letdown after everything Fenton led us to hope for?

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Only Me
9/17/2014 06:16:59 am

I know, right? I so wanted to scope out Castle Greyskull!

EP
9/17/2014 05:58:09 am

I really don't get how anyone can claim that The Conspiracy is trying to suppress the truth about the giants when the Flores dwarves are given so much mainstream publicity, allow the academics to "rewrite textbooks", etc. etc.

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Only Me
9/17/2014 06:15:50 am

You were supposed to ignore *that* specific elephant in the room :)

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EP
9/17/2014 06:32:21 am

I'm just confused over the fact that I somehow missed Jason's review of Wolter's Akhenaten book. Go easy on me :)

Shane Sullivan
9/17/2014 08:17:20 am

The scientific establishment wants to hide the giants in a heinous attempt to disprove biblical inerrancy, you see. There are no biblical dwarves, so they don't threaten the paradigm.

Wait a minute, are there biblical dwarves...?

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EP
9/17/2014 08:49:16 am

Yep.

Not the Comte de Saint Germain
9/17/2014 09:49:53 am

Though the dwarfs mentioned in the Bible sound no different from the ones known today (dwarfism is mentioned as one of several "blemishes" that render people too ritually impure to give offerings in the Temple in Leviticus 21). They don't have the fringe-magnet backstory that the Nephilim do.

EP
9/17/2014 11:14:49 am

Let's give them one! :D

Shane Sullivan
9/17/2014 11:38:33 am

Well, surely there are no Assyrians, chariots, donkeys, or swords in the bible, or the evidence for them would be hidden too!

EP
9/17/2014 11:48:26 am

LOL

I mostly meant those, like Wolter or von Daniken, who accuse the academics of being too lazy/stubborn/dishonest to rewrite textbooks etc. in light of game-changing discoveries...

CHV
9/17/2014 08:12:05 am

Suicidal dogs - I credit and/or blame the Knights Templar.

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.
9/17/2014 09:11:47 am

did someone system dump modern pollutants or
contaminants or poisons near that humble bridge?
is there some virus in the soil that impacts a dog's
nervous system badly? i am drawn into this curious
happenstance that brings to mind the dog that did
not bark in the night! i'm a tad Baker's Street Irregular.

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Only Me
9/17/2014 09:51:58 am

And here I thought you were just...irregular :)

EP
9/17/2014 02:14:55 pm

Did someone system dump modern pollutants or contaminants or poisons near .'s childhood home? Is there some virus in the soil that impacts .'s nervous system badly?

Because that would totally explain .'s posting.

.
9/17/2014 02:37:32 pm

Luv... the Ashland Superfund site is on a river at its headwaters, this lil ole river goes by Lowell and Lawrence but thats not
the only community it has impacted. It may have impacted the
health of Paul Tsongas. Raytheon was a major employer here.
Sperry Rand is also nearby. Lets not take this back to our old
mills or even the asbestos my old high school had all over it.
even so... i am Mensa level... despite my suburban milieu.
so far... knock on wood... i'm reasonably healthy... despite this.
how nice of you to indirectly ask. i have decades to go before
i cease to await the arrival of the UFO on the White House lawn.

.
9/17/2014 02:39:14 pm

http://www.mass.gov/eea/agencies/massdep/cleanup/nrd/nyanza-chemical-waste-dump-superfund-site-nrd-settlement.html

CHV
9/17/2014 08:15:35 am

How do these "experts" define giants? Had Shaquille O'Neal or the late Richard Kiel lived centuries ago, would they have been considered giants - or just very tall people?

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Mark link
9/17/2014 09:20:29 am

Depends on if the discoverer is hawking a book or not.

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EP
9/17/2014 09:34:01 am

If only Dr. Gregory L. Little was here to enlighten us! :)

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Only Me
9/17/2014 09:50:32 am

Remember, Greg Little defines a giant as anyone 6 feet 6 inches and above.

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Jerky
9/17/2014 11:04:42 am

Well that makes me a giant.

EP
9/17/2014 11:17:01 am

I too have a giant bone I keep hidden from everyone but a chosen few.

If you know what I mean.

Jerky
9/17/2014 11:55:36 am

Should I be worried that Little might show up at my door step wanting permission to dig up my family so he can get his hands on some giant bones?

DanD
9/17/2014 12:33:58 pm

" I too have a giant bone I keep hidden from everyone but a chosen few "

Here's hoping your chosen few don't question delusion of grandeur ;).

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EP
9/17/2014 12:50:47 pm

Your mom doesn't ;)

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DanD
9/17/2014 01:00:31 pm

Weak response especially since my dear old Mom has passed some years ago.

No biggie but get some better stuff. lol

EP
9/17/2014 01:27:17 pm

Hey man, don't knock the classics :)

DanD
9/17/2014 01:35:35 pm

You got me thinking, Dad? Thanks a pant load, I'm hung like a peanut....

Only Me
9/17/2014 01:43:27 pm

Hey, DanD, just don't describe yourself as a Tic-Tac: small, white and doesn't last very long! XD

EP
9/17/2014 01:49:39 pm

DanD, I knew your mother got around, but I thought she had some standards... Judging by your genetic inheritance, apparently not...

DanD
9/17/2014 03:25:32 pm

Screenshot ala Mr Steve St Clair (whatever is name is) for future Libel if I see fit,

Goodnite all! lol

BillUSA
9/17/2014 12:53:23 pm

I wish aliens would visit my house and show me an easier way of cutting an acre-and-a-half of hillside grass, trimming the dozens of 100'+ trees and keeping the deer and squirrels away. Actually, I'm being a bit facetious, the deer can't be dealt with the way I'd like, but there's no ordinance against, uh, using "ordnance" on the squirrels.

On a serious note, I hardly ever hear anyone on television put forth the possibility that these "giant skeleton" finds (if they aren't a hoax) could simply be anomalous specimens. I don't know much about gigantism in species' but I don't think it has suddenly arisen in last couple of hundred years.

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EP
9/17/2014 01:51:19 pm

God I feel sorry for this guy:

http://www.brucefenton.com/

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EP
9/17/2014 02:31:05 pm

"Bruce Fenton, the fringe figure who does not want to be referred to as an expert in giants"

For more on how Bruce Fenton is totally not an expert on giants, check out his latest ebook, "Ecuador’s Lost City of Giants and the Forgotten Exodus From Mu", coming out in just a few days.

http://earth4all.net/ecuadors-lost-city-of-giants-and-the-forgotten-exodus-from-mu/

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EP
9/17/2014 03:59:49 pm

"Biologist Dr. Irakli Julakidze... doesn't speak English"

There is so much wrong with this. First, of all, Irakli Julakidze attended high school in California, then attended "California College of The Healing Arts". The latter, if not total bullshit, was incorporated into Southern California University of Health Sciences back in the 1930s. SCUHS grants degrees and certificates in various "alternative" fields, including at least one Doctorate (in Chiropractic).

He also attended (and may be teaching at) Akaki Tsereteli State University in Georgia, but its website is Geocities-tier and I refuse to investigate further.

Anyway, Irakli Julakidze totally speaks English and it's unclear that he either is a biologist or holds a doctorate of any kind.

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Archy
10/8/2014 12:58:13 pm

" This leads to the claim that “Russian news” broke the story in 2008 that giant bones had been discovered in Georgia. I discussed some of this material earlier in the summer."

You will note that even as the narrator states the news was broken in Russia, the news broadcaster is speaking Georgian.

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Archy
10/8/2014 01:40:34 pm

One truly wonders why, in a world with no shortage of gifted archeologists, Science Channel would haul a charlatan like Bruce fenton from around the globe to look for giants? There is a ton of interesting research going on there, and it has been ongoing for years.


I realize that ratings are everything, but shouldn't the "Science Channel", change their name to "The Dubious Science Channel"/

Here are some web sites of interest for those of you interested in science, the non-dubious variety: http://www.dmanisi.ge/?lang=en

http://archaeologynewsnetwork.blogspot.com/2011/04/was-eurasia-stones-throw-for-early.html#.VDXXXvldXrQ

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Archy
10/8/2014 01:43:14 pm

One truly wonders why, in a world with no shortage of gifted archeologists, Science Channel would haul a charlatan like Bruce fenton from around the globe to look for giants? There is a ton of interesting research going on there, and it has been ongoing for years.


I realize that ratings are everything, but shouldn't the "Science Channel", change their name to "The Dubious Science Channel"/

Here are some web sites of interest for those of you interested in science, the non-dubious variety: http://www.dmanisi.ge/?lang=en

http://archaeologynewsnetwork.blogspot.com/2011/04/was-eurasia-stones-throw-for-early.html#.VDXXXvldXrQ

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Andrew
5/17/2016 08:01:54 pm

It is plausible that a population of larger than average human existed , However no proof exists that supports it. Proof doesn't disappear without a trace.

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Ladimer
5/20/2016 05:06:28 am

I see you commented about 3 days ago and it looks like this thread died out 2 years ago. I don't know about you but the episode I watched the other day that you probably did didn't even show the test results. In fact I watched it twice and they ended with:

"She sent the sample to be tested and we'll have to wait for the results to know the truth about giants" (Paraphrasing but close enough)

Apparently since they didn't like the results they just left them out in later episodes just to keep the mystery going. Totally reprehensible. I've wasted two days wondering what happened and finally decided to check now. There are real mysteries out there and that's what I want to see.

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