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Review of Unexplained + Unexplored S01E03 "Knights Templar in America"

11/27/2019

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Would you trust the unearthing of history’s deepest secrets to Baron Ambrosia, the “quaffer of culinary consciousness” from New York City public access television and the Cooking Channel’s The Adventures of Baron Ambrosia? The Science Channel trusts the flamboyant showman, whose real name is Justin Fornal, to remake himself as an “international explorer and cultural detective” (he is primarily a travel writer and film producer for National Geographic and Vice) in a new series in which he and his exploration partner, Emiliano Ruprah, a longtime cable TV producer, basically remake old episodes of the Travel Channel / History Channel pseudoscience series America Unearthed but with a twist—each one is based on an old map! Woo-hoo. The first episode remade the America Unearthed episode about the California “Viking” ghost ship from this past season (newsflash: they didn’t find it either), and the second episode revisited the season three America Unearthed episode about the treasure of the Superstition Mountains (they didn’t find it either). Future episodes will retrace Wolter’s hunts for Meriwether Lewis’s “real” killer and the Ark of the Covenant.
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Ruprah (left) and Fornal (center) at the Explorer's Club promoting "Unexplained + Unexplored."
I normally wouldn’t cover recycled content that adds nothing new on a show with just 356,000 live plus same day viewers, but it’s worth examining this week’s episode hunting for the Knights Templar in America both because it is now the cornerstone claim of cable history documentaries and also because Fornal and Ruprah base their analysis on the Zeno Map, the Renaissance era hoax that was debunked in the early 1800s and again in the 1890s and yet keeps coming back over and over again. You’d think the hoaxer’s own confession that he destroyed the worm-eaten, incomplete original, along with the supposed Zeno narrative that accompanied it, and reconstructed it from memory would be enough to disqualify it. But no. What makes this particularly ridiculous is that the narrator claims that this map is “new evidence” that was “recently discovered.” Since when is the sixteenth century recent?
 
Fornal and Ruprah describe themselves as fellows of the Explorer’s Club, but the Club lists them only as “members” in a press release marking the debut of the series. Fornal also claims to have “discovered” the skull of Nat Turner, the leader of a famous slave revolt. According to his own account, he did not. While working for National Geographic, he arranged for the Turner family to make contact with the owner of the skull, which was in the possession of former Gary, Indiana mayor Richard Gordon Hatcher, and therefore not lost to be discovered. Hatcher knew what it was:
Several [historians] had heard reports or read newspaper articles stating that the skull had been donated to Hatcher at a 2002 charity gala for the Civil Rights Hall of Fame, a museum project Hatcher has long championed. [Shannon Batten] Aguirre, the Turner descendant from Washington, expressed strong interest in contacting Hatcher to see if he’d be amenable to returning the skull to Virginia for a proper burial. The filmmakers arranged the call.
That’s his claim to fame. Baron Ambrosia arranged a phone call. In the realm of historical achievements, this does not really rank. Now, look: He did good work getting everyone together to make the burial possible, but that’s not really the same as his claim that “he tracked down the lost skull of African American slave rebellion leader Nat Turner and repatriated it to the Turner descendants.” According to his own original account, at best, he connected people who already knew what was going on and then claimed credit for it. He wrote that the Smithsonian was fully aware of the skull’s location and had been offered the remains, which they declined to accept. HE EVEN ADMITS THE FACTS WERE IN THE NEWSPAPER, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! I searched Lexis-Nexis, and indeed newspapers had fully reported the whole story in 2003, in multiple articles, including The Virginia Pilot and the Richmond Times-Dispatch. Fornal’s only contribution was to make a phone call as part of the National Geographic production team making a documentary after reading said articles.
 
It may seem like I’m picking on Fornal, but there is a reason for that: He is starring in a pseudo-history shitshow that actively undermines the very disciplines he claims to advocate and damages public education and understanding. Anyway, I’m over pompous, overblown TV personalities with inflated resumes. I’d rather these wannabe he-men concede that they are just interested dilettantes and popularizers and leave it at that rather than trying to pass off their televised speculation as carefully considered scientific conclusions.  

But on to the episode.
 
From the beginning, we’re off to a bad start because the stentorian narration from Fornal keeps telling us (more than once!) that that the Templars are “all-powerful” and “mysterious,” two things they were not. The narrator doesn’t offer any qualifications other the requisite “some say” to justify claiming that the Templars recovered the Ark of the Covenant and the Holy Grail and that Henry I Sinclair, Earl of Orkney led an expedition to North America under the auspices of the Knights Templar—a century after the Templar order had been expunged!
 
Fornal is an irritating presence, theatrical, over-enunciating and moving as though he were in a stage play and needs to play to the back of the theater. He never qualifies his ridiculous acceptance of the most extreme version of the Sinclair conspiracy theory, a conspiracy theory invented mostly by Richard Henry Major in the 1870s and recycled and upcycled by Fredric Pohl in the middle twentieth century. The connection between the supposed Sinclair voyage and the Knights Templar didn’t come about until the 1990s, when two different conspiracy theories merged. Fornal hopes that screaming loudly enough at his touchscreen maps will make up for his lack of knowledge and nuance. Just for kicks, they add that Sinclair took the Ark of the Covenant and the Holy Grail to America.
 
He and Ruprah should be kicked out of the Explorers’ Club for accepting these lies as unqualified truth.
 
At a Queens, New York museum housing native American artifacts, the two men meet with a delusional nutcase named Evan Pritchard, a Mi’kmaq descendant and professor of Native American studies who has completely bought into the idea that Henry Sinclair and a group of Knights Templar came to America and “intermixed” with the Mi’kmaq, a claim invented by Frederic Pohl in the 1940s based on his own complete misreading of a nineteenth century book of Mi’kmaq oral stories—literally: he didn’t understand that the stories were about different characters.
 
Pritchard claims that the Mi’kmaq wore similarly shaped hats (they aren’t that similar), and therefore they wore “Templar garments.” He repeats the false claim that the “Templar battle flag” is nearly identical to the Mi’kmaq flag. As I have pointed out in the past, the “Templar battle flag” is a fake. There never was one, and it was created in modern times from the Mi’kmaq version by believers in the conspiracy theory.
 
Fornal operatically intones “Incredible!” at this evidence. Ruprah adds “Wow.”
 
The men then meet with Tim Sock, a member of the Mi’kmaq who studies oral history. He, too, is delusional, accepting modern stories about the Sinclair/Templar conspiracy as a genuine “oral tradition.” As I have explored in the past, Sock and other like him are reinterpreting Contact Period stories about French missionaries (who wore red crosses) in light of modern Templar conspiracy theories. The oral stories have a basis in fact, but they have been reconstructed around History Channel conspiracy theories, and now Science Channel ones. Sock discusses the “Templar” cross carved into the Overton Stone, another object Scott Wolter has promoted in the past. Sock alleges that the stone is proof positive of a Sinclair-Templar presence in Nova Scotia.
 
The most fascinating thing, I think, is that the two hosts and the show itself rely on (fake) “experts” and frame their discussion in terms of the stories that they heard from their sources, constructing a (once again, fake) narrative based on previous fake narratives, like early antiquarians more than professional historians. The accept claims based on their faith and trust in the honesty of the people making them rather than the evidence; the evidence, such as it is, merely exists to slot into a story, twisted however it needs to be to reinforce a narrative they don’t even recognize is a myth assembled from a mountain of assumptions and speculation and lies.
 
Anyway, they look up the Westford Knight on novelist (now promoted to “historian”) David Brody’s website—a modern Massachusetts hoax carving alleged to be a medieval Scottish knight (seriously: the original Victorian report of the carving found no knight or sword)—and are thrilled that “some say” it’s a “grave site” of a “Templar.” They meet with Brody, a Scott Wolter acolyte, and simply accept his claims as true, doubting only whether a Knight Templar grave in Massachusetts proved that the Templar “colony” was located here.
 
At this point all of the qualifiers drop away and Fornal simply asserts point-blank that the Templars continued in secret after the Pope disbanded their order and became “masters” of hidden codes, placing them in maps, paintings, architecture, and everywhere in plain sight. Brody shows the men a stone with an arrow and the Arabic numeral 184, supposedly a secret marker of Templar treasure 184 paces north of the Westford Knight. Arabic numerals weren’t in widespread use in 1398. Although they were in use among scholars after Fibonacci began employing them in the early 1200s, they weren’t widely used outside of scholarship until the printing press democratized them in the 1400s. It’s possible, but unlikely, that Scottish knights would have used digits in 1398.
 
Our heroes use a drone to hunt for treasure and find an old settler’s or farmer’s wall (a low line of large piled stones) that they claim is “epic” and “just feels ancient.” Ruprah declares that the wall is “hiding something” important. No one thinks to check historical records or surveys to see if the wall’s original purpose was already known. The men declare it a castle and start using a metal detector and a shovel to tear up whatever archaeological context might remain in search of what they call “goodies.” “Where are you, goodies?” Ruprah whispers. Fornal calls the surface layer “crap” and says he needs to get to the “good stuff” buried beneath the wall.
 
I was horrified to see them using pre-Victorian antiquarian looting methods—basically, destructive treasure-hunting—to tear apart what is probably a colonial site in the hunt for imaginary medieval treasure. The show does not indicate who owns the land or whether they had secured any necessary permits for excavation. Since the show provides no details, I looked it up in David Goudsward’s book on the Westford Knight. Basically, the whole “discovery” we see here is a made-for-TV fraud. The stone enclosure had been discovered in 1966, next to a dried-up old spring. It was probably a colonial-era animal pen since it was located on the property of a colonial farm near a now-demolished farmhouse. Great job faking your show, Baron Ambrosia!
 
The men dig out a rusted old hook, say that it is 600 years old because it is buried deep (the ground had been plowed many times, so the layers are not pristine), and call it a ship’s hook. They find a Victorian nail and declare it to be a medieval one based on … fantasy? I’m not sure. It’s pretty standard nineteenth century nail, and this is material that they really shouldn’t have been digging out at random. To “prove” their assumptions, they ask Rick Lynch, a Freemason and pseudohistorian with the New England fringe history support group that gave Scott Wolter his start, to authenticate them. To his credit, Lynch tells them they are basically idiots who have mistaken Victorian material for medieval. Lynch, however, then tells the men that Westford was just a “temporary encampment” of the Templars. He shows them one of Verrazano’s maps and claims that Norumbega (here identified directly with modern Newport) was the Templar settlement.
 
The men wonder why the map was marked with a castle at the site of Norumbega, and they all pretend that this is a European fortress or tower—i.e., the Newport Tower—rather than the obvious, which is that settlements were marked with towers on maps of that era. We know this because the decidedly un-European settlements of sub-Saharan Africa, which lacked castles, were given the same types of tower symbols on maps of that era.
 
Fornal and Ruprah do the only logical thing and visit ex-History Channel host and giant-hunter Jim Vieira in Newport to spin conspiracy theories about Gov. Benedict Arnold’s stone windmill, claiming it to be a Templar tower. How does hunting Nephilim qualify one to opine about colonial architecture? Well, he was also a stone mason, so … Nope, I have nothing. This is another case where “expertise” is defined as “having had a cable conspiracy theory show.” Even this show admits that he is an “amateur.” And that’s going some for a show that accepts anyone as an expert.
 
They visit the “In Hoc Signo Vinces” stone previously seen on America Unearthed, and they make no mention of the fact that it is carved in a turn-of-the-twentieth-century newspaper headline typeface. Instead, Vieira lies and spreads the false notion that Constantine’s famous vision was actually the Templar battle-cry (there is no historical documentation to support this), and the men declare, like Wolter, that the stone is a “land claim.” Imagine if the U.S. military tried claiming land by carving “hooah” on a rock, and you’ll see how bizarre this claim is.
 
As this train-wreck of a show pulls in for landing, the men explore the Old Stone Mill known as the Newport Tower, and Vieira is suddenly promoted from “amateur historian” to full “historian” when he is reintroduced after a commercial break. Our hosts say the Old Stone Mill is “awesome” and “just looks mysterious.” Once again, faith and feelings are mistaken for evidence, and we hear that the windmill is unlike any other in colonial America. (It is, but it’s almost identical to its model in England, which they leave out.) We also hear that the tower’s eight pillars are “beautiful,” which is highly subjective. Personally, I think the rough construction is nothing much to look at when you compare the utilitarian structure to actual Templar churches in Europe. Vieira says that the accordion-style arch design of the Newport Tower is virtually identical to arches in a medieval church on the Orkney Islands, Henry Sinclair’s home. They are not. For one thing, the Orkney church uses Gothic arches, appropriate for the time period, while the Newport mill uses rounded arches, which were not typical for the late 1300s. The reason for the tower’s style should be pretty simple: it’s due to the materials available at the site and the fact that none of the stonework was meant to be seen because it was meant to be covered in plaster. You don’t put extra effort into what isn’t seen.
 
At the end Fornal declares that they have proof that white guys were actively colonizing America a century before that Latin knave Columbus stole the glory from Scotland’s lily-white favored son. Fornal ends by blasting “Western” history books for lying about when Europeans really colonized America, and the this reads all the stranger because our hosts are not the typical Anglo/Nordic/Teutonic white guys who usually host these shows but are instead parroting their lines without any idea what they are doing. You could probably write a thesis about that.
 
After reading the production credits, I think I was actually invited to be on this show earlier this year. The final concept is a little different than the one pitched to me, but the subject matter, the network commissioning it, and the production house are the same, as was the date of airing. The producers didn’t move forward with me, and now it is pretty clear why: This is another entry in the multimedia circle-jerk of cable TV fake “experts” who pretend to be knowledgeable researchers of ancient mysteries but whose actual lives are defined by appearing on one low-rated cable freak show after another spouting the same one stale idea for power and glory, now and forever, amen.
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Jim
11/27/2019 08:22:07 pm

Yikes, they are actually following in the footsteps of Scott Wolter,,, On Purpose ?

Good Lord !

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TONY S.
11/29/2019 05:44:51 pm

That’s a scary thought, isn’t it? We’ve got new keepers of the Wolter flame on the scene now.

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Kent
11/29/2019 06:13:52 pm

Speaking of "the Wolter flame" apparently the FBI has gotten nowhere with its investigation of the New Hampshire Jesuit Masonic Arson or the Q-Anon vandalism of the New Improved and Rearranged Lye Stone Amusement Park and Rest Stop.

As someone who was able to get past the call-screener said in his comments section

"Scott Wolter October 11, 2019 at 8:02 AM
Fred,

You are free to believe whatever you want. I have already explained the negative effects of "Hate Bloggers", some of whom partner with close-minded academics, that embolden fanatics to deface and destroy historical artifacts and sites that are not fully understood yet. You know exactly why I throw shade on some academics (Just to be clear, I am not saying all academics). If you don't understand, then read my books and get educated.

You have your opinions and are welcome to them. The fact that I have enemies is evidence we are making positive contributions and I am proud of that.

Anonymous October 11, 2019 at 12:51 PM
Scott,

With due respect to all the Major Hochstetters monitoring this site, I would suggest that what you have is "detractors" rather than "enemies".

Ready Ted"

TONY S.
11/29/2019 07:00:01 pm

He thinks he’s influential and important enough to have enemies? What a deluded, narcissistic prick.

Jim
11/29/2019 09:21:41 pm

The Wolter Paradox:

" If you don't understand, then read my books and get educated."

Hilda Hilpert
12/4/2019 04:22:33 pm

You're probably right. Fornal in that suit looks like a shady used car salesman to me.Of course frauds can also dress like Prince William too, but he just gives to me a sleezy appearence. Now could the Templars or some other europeans have come to America,etc. etc. yes.Look at some of the things they are find on the show,The Curse of Oak Island.They found a lead cross at Smith's cove.Sent it off to Germany to the Mining Institute,forgot exact name. It was subjected to all sorts of testing .Was made from lead from some mine in France, and dated between 12th to 14th century I believe.They have found things that pre-date the money pit.Also found some old iron tools and other things that are also pre 18th century.
As far as the Micmac peoples go, maybe they did have some sort of contact with them, but how much if any we don't know. Where they already christians when white settlers iencountered them? In japan Catholic missionaries came.The rullers of Japan put an end to that, but the people went into hiding their faith ,until they were free to worship openly.
As far as any red cross on the habits of French missionaries, that doesn't mean they were templars. The Bernardine Nuns of port Royal Abbey in France wore a red cross on their habit. Several other orders have worn or currently wear a red cross, black cross,etc.
The Templars had no battle cry that i am aware of , and if they did, it wasn't Constatine's In this sign you shall conquer. Since St.Bernard of Clariveux was the one who gave them a rule of life, it is more likely to have been for the Glory of Jesus and Mary, since St.Bernard had a strong devotion to Our Holy Mother,Mary, as any Catholic can tell you.

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Homer Sextown
11/27/2019 08:51:22 pm

"Exploration partner"? Okay, I learned a new term.

A buried tombstone is not a landclaim. Mt. Rushmore, that's a landclaim bitches!

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TONY S.
11/29/2019 05:42:54 pm

Scott Wolter would disagree with you, he thinks everything is a land claim.

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Paul
11/27/2019 09:50:10 pm

Apparently these fools have not learned from the zombie movies. They can only go whistling past what they assume as the cemetery of facts so long until the facts jump out and bite their asses. Whistling louder doesn’t help, just draws more to you. Wolter? He is irrelevant except as a purveyor of hoax and garbage. These shows attract mostly brainless idiots that are good for advertising dollars. And that is enough said about that....

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Gus hall
11/27/2019 10:55:40 pm

“Anyway, I’m over pompous, overblown.”

Did you accidentally admit the truth?

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Jim
11/28/2019 12:25:42 am

This is a little off topic, but should interest some.

Remember the "Templar" lead cross from Oak Island ?

If the comments in this facebook post are to be believed, some guy in Niagara Falls makes them and plants them all over the place. Lol, sounds like people find them all the time.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/228993903930346/permalink/1429142427248815/

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Andy White
11/28/2019 07:27:26 am

Now that's interesting. I haven't followed Oak Island since Swordgate, but I am aware of the hubbub over the cross. It would be fun if it was just another modern item with an origin that could be demonstrated.

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Jim
11/28/2019 09:10:43 am

Crossgate, lol.

Peter
11/28/2019 11:51:55 am

The Oak Island cross find is more than two years old. People have been making repros ever since it appeared. They have been for sale on eBay, there is at least one DIY video on YouTube etc. This metal detecting story is recent so presumably these are not pieces that predate the older find on Oak Island. The Oak Island cross is simply an Acadian piece. It's a cross, it's lead, the lead is from France, Acadians in the Maritimes wore crosses. The asserted date of the lead being mined based on isotope predates Acadian occupation, as it should. Lead is a very soft and easily damaged metal. Broken lead objects get melted down and recycled into new objects. So, it’s either original to near the date of being mined or it was made later, being recycled from some other piece. There are other lead crosses to be found in the Maritimes. Pretty straightforward. It's got nothing to do with Templar fantasies.

https://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/16th-century-french-cross-found-at-n-b-development-site-1.4458120

Paul
11/28/2019 11:56:57 am

If you read the thread, Nick Powell was distributing the lead crosses well before the Oak Island cross was found.

Peter
11/28/2019 01:07:59 pm

One comment in the thread says "ive had one of thise for a couple years" (with typos). This one was mailed to him, he says, so not any sort of find. Someone else posted a pic of one but no date ID. The Oak Island find was the summer or fall of 2017, and put in an episode that aired in January 2018. There's no confirmation of the exact date of the alleged planting of the repros, or the mailed one, and to be clear these repros are all in Ontario. There is nothing in the thread that puts another matching example on Oak Island more than two years ago, to be found summer of 2017. The ones pictured are also clearly not from the same mold as the Oak Island one.

gdave
11/28/2019 07:37:23 am

Really, really minor nitpick, but...

It would be "boo-yah" only if it were DC's Cyborg making a land claim by inscribing a battle cry. If it were U.S. Soldiers, it would be "Hooah" or "Huah". If it were U.S. Marines, it would be "Oorah".

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Jason Colavito link
11/28/2019 08:10:10 am

Apologies. I had meant to look up the spelling but forgot.

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Kent
11/28/2019 03:39:14 pm

"Whassssup!" or "The Quicker Picker-Upper" would also be acceptable. For those into codes, "10, 2, and 4".

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Kal
11/28/2019 10:25:39 am

The term "work eaten" probably should be "worm eaten" or "moth eaten" when describing the missing map.

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Hal
11/28/2019 05:17:36 pm

“Worm eaten” could also describe your brain.

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Paul
11/28/2019 10:34:08 am

This is hilarious. COI hung a hat on this item, tied the templars to it. Forget how many episodes. Could probably have a whole cottage industry just serving up debunking of OI. Good find, Mr. Jim.

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Goudsward's book
11/28/2019 01:48:32 pm

Updated and revised edition published in 2020 with new foreword by Patricia Trainor O’Malley

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William Smith
12/1/2019 12:04:28 pm

Jason - Good recap of the latest miss-leading Wolter group led movie failure. You left out the bird migration which is a joke like other items. If I recall the grave robbers found the iron artifacts under many inches of new soil. I wonder if they are aware that the state agriculture reports that it takes 400 years to make 1 cm. of new soil in this area due to the rocky environment and the Westward Knight was and is bedrock which was covered by over two feet of dirt and only exposed when the dirt was removed to make the road. This proves the Templars were smart enough to travel on modern roads. Birds of a feather stick together and the bird feather on the Overton stone is fabrication just like the hooked X on the Westford Knight.

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B L
12/2/2019 01:44:36 pm

Two things....

1.: "Pseudo-History Shitshow" would be a great name for a new History Channel series. The name alone would bring in more viewers than Ancient Aliens and America Unearthed combined. I'd tune in to PHS every week!

And 2.: As far as unbreakable Templar "codes" based on arcane knowledge go, an arrow with the number 184 next to it seems pretty simple.

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Nan webb
12/20/2019 02:58:03 pm

I agree with your statement about the proliferation of dumbed-down and misleading (at best) "archeology" shows that now dominate science and history channels. Just throw in "ancient aliens" and you can see a boatload of people with aluminium foil hats. Please, please just make an attempt, History channel, to put together a decent archeology discoveries show that actually teaches people as opposed to comic book " science". Sigh.

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Emiliano Ruprah link
12/2/2019 04:43:03 pm

Fabulous read, thanks! - interested dilettante and popularizer.

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Mike Hartley
9/30/2020 04:11:01 am

Hahaha!! I thought I was special Milly!! You called me a dick on twitter and made me feel special but here you are realizing you're an idiot and passive-aggressively talking weak smack to somebody else smarter and more successful than you from far away and behind a keyboard. Way to go loser, you somehow made that moron Baron Ambrosia look less stupid.

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Donna
12/20/2019 01:24:28 pm

If you are going to have a show documentary about history-you should make sure your information is accurate. Christopher Columbus never made it to North America and reference to him is offensive. He was the biggest slave trader in our history!

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William Smith
12/20/2019 02:44:00 pm

You are correct about Columbus. He was 940 miles south of his China destination when he landed on an island because he used the magnetic compass and did not adjust for magnetic declination. He repeated this mistake 3 more times and never set foot on North American soil. Why would we believe that 15 million Mayans traveled to North America in wooden canoes to settle in a swamp small lake. The answer is in Wolter and his groups fabricated stories. They say The Sinclairs were first, no it was the Templars, No it was the lost tribe of Isreal, now the Mayans.

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Juke
1/16/2020 05:18:29 pm

This show is absolutely ridiculous. They just distort information to fit their intent and neither find nor prove anything. The most ridiculous part is that at the end of each show they claim they did. Thought it may be interesting but it's not even amusing.

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Ann E Elsner
5/19/2021 11:57:35 am

This show is annoying but so far fetched that it is fantasy and therefore escapist, in the same way that Rom Coms are. The scenery is beautiful, but I find myself shouting at the TV with all the nonsense. This episode, and the similar ones previously about the Templars, makes me sorry that I did not dig along the stone wall that bordered my property in suburban Massachusetts. Who knows what precious artifacts I might have found, instead of digging elsewhere to remove the rocks from my vegetable garden? Given that most of this region was thought to be cleared farmland > 100 years ago, and then returned to forest or became suburbs, there is hardly a location that does not have the remnants of an old stone wall. The guys could have sent the drone in almost any direction and "discovered" a stone wall. As any Massachusetts school child knows, along with those of us parents who went on the field trips, the nail found was like many in the old barns in Massachusetts and NH. The hook looked like the ones in the museums and historical houses. I was envious that something was found that was not just more rocks, which is what my gardening usually produced. However, there remains some interesting genealogy to do about descendants of Templars, although the DNA trail is likely rather cold.

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William Smith
5/20/2021 03:40:36 pm

This is the latest research by the THOR group about the Templars in America. It is supported by facts and not made for tv bull shit. The THOR group has 13 movies posted on Youtube for people looking for true history of Europeans in America before Columbus. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jOAihutiLw

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Michael Mirabal
6/27/2021 12:17:28 am

I think the thing that really gets me the most is that qualified people have spent hundreds of years looking for these ancient treasures to no avail and these guys find them in 2 wardrobe changes. A case in point is the Lost Dutchman mine.

I have studied lost treasures for a long time and the Dutchman is one of my favorites. The one thing for sure about the Dutchman is that nobody knows for sure what is real and not real. You have the so called Dutchman map which has spurious origins. Then there is the Ruth map, the Peralta Stones (which were magically discovered one day) and a lot of other so called genuine stories and maps. Even the Peralta's being there can't be proven.

The big treasure there, bigger than the Dutchman, is supposed to be the Church Treasure. This includes a full size gold horse, a pile of ingots and other valuable church items. The area believed to be the Dutchman Mine area was mapped with ground penetrating radar and it appears that the Church Treasure has been located but, because it is Federal Land, no one will ever know.

These 2 idiots have a "real' copy of the Dutchman deathbed map which has never proven to be real or to provide any results and they magically know where the treasure is located in a matter of a couple of days. But, they can't go there since it is covered over. As they close the episode, they tell you they know for sure the location of the mine and point to it.

These guys are the Giorgio Tsoukalos of lost treasures. Give me a break. Thanks for your post, Jason. I completely agree with you.

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          • W. Scott-Elliot >
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          • Man During the Stone Age
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          • Fossil Origin of the Cyclops
          • Mastodon, Mammoth, and Man
        • Fragments on Giants
        • Manichaean Book of Giants
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        • Giants and the Sons of God
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        • Tertiary Giants
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        • Jewish Encyclopedia on Giants
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        • The Holy Grail as Lucifer's Crown Jewel
        • The Mutinous Sea
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        • Ragnarok: The Age of Fire and Gravel
        • Origins of the Egyptian People
        • The Secret Doctrine >
          • Volume 1: Cosmogenesis
          • Volume 2: Anthropogenesis
        • Phoenicians in America
        • The Electric Ark
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        • Prince Henry Sinclair
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        • Chronology and the "Riddle of the Sphinx"
        • The Faith of Ancient Egypt
        • Spirit of the Hour in Archaeology
        • Book of the Damned
        • Great Pyramid As Noah's Ark
        • Richard Shaver's Proofs
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        • "Flying Saucers"? They're a Myth
        • UFO Hypothesis Survival Questions
        • Air Force Academy UFO Textbook
        • The Condon Report on Ancient Astronauts
        • Atlantis Discovery Telegrams
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        • Noah's Ark Cables
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        • Scott Wolter Lawsuit
        • UFOs in Ancient China
        • CIA Report on Noah's Ark
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      • Ancient Extraterrestrials >
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        • What Is Theosophy?
        • Plane of Ether
        • The Adepts from Venus
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      • The Cursed Car
    • Classic Fiction >
      • Lucian's True History
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      • The Xipéhuz
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      • The Novel of the Black Seal
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      • The Lost Continent
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      • H. P. Lovecraft >
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        • History of the Necronomicon
        • At the Mountains of Madness
        • Lovecraft's Library in 1932
      • The Skeptical Poltergeist
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      • The Second Satellite
      • Queen of the Black Coast
      • A Martian Odyssey
    • Classic Genre Movies
    • Miscellaneous Documents >
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      • A Problem in Greek Ethics
      • The Migration of Symbols
      • The Gospel of Intensity
      • De Profundis
      • The Life and Death of Crown Prince Rudolf
      • The Bathtub Hoax
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      • Position of Viking Women
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      • James Dean's Scrapbook
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      • The Amazing James Dean Hoax!
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