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Roger Bacon and the Medieval Airplane

1/14/2020

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I have two topics to discuss today. The first concerns American Cosmic author Diana Pasulka, whose Twitter account created controversy over the weekend. In a series of tweets, Pasulka’s Twitter account alleged that Tom DeLonge is a Freemason, that his To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science is a U.S. government “psyop,” that TTSA “scientists” were defecting from the organization or want to, that U.S. presidents engage in pagan lunar worship rituals, and that she would henceforth associate only with members of Jacques Vallée’s supposed “Invisible College” of UFO researchers. Late on Saturday, she put out a statement saying that she had been hacked and was “mortified” by what the hacker said while posing as her on Twitter and in email. She conceded, however, that “Some things were actually things in my email, but nothing I would say publicly.” She did not specify which of the inflammatory claims were her own. It’s probably enough to know that at least some are.
Well, enough of that.
 
In a recent article at Mysterious Universe, Micah Hanks tries and fails to think critically about a passage in the works of Roger Bacon describing what sounds like a Wile E. Coyote-style flying contraption intended to carry a man aloft on mechanical bird wings. You know things are off to a bad start when Hanks opens with Leonardo da Vinci and refers to him as “da Vinci” as though that were Leonardo’s surname. Dan Brown’s novel notwithstanding, it was not his name but a descriptor.
 
OK, so Hanks presents a deceptively truncated passage from the 1597 English translation of Bacon’s Mirror of Alchimy (as it was then titled), which he has clearly never read in full. Here is how he misstates it:
“There may bee made instruments of Nauigation without men to rowe in them … yea instruments to flie withall, so that one sitting in the middle of the Instrument, and turning about an Engine, by which the winges being artificially composed may beate the ayre after the maner of a flying bird … And it is certaine that there is an instrument to flie with, which I neuer sawe, nor any man that hath seene it, but I full wel know by name the learned man that inuented the same.”
This is deceptively edited to make it look like we are talking about a flying ship with wings. But the full passage shows that the ship and the flying contraption are two different things. The part about the flying machine is in boldface:
Now will I begin to recount vnto you strange things, performed by Arte and Nature, and afterwards I will shew you the causes and manners of things, wherein shall bee nothing Magicall, so that you shall confesse all Magicke power to be inferior to these, and vnworthie to be compared with them. And first of all by the figuration of Art it selfe: There may bee made instruments of Nauigation without men to rowe in them: as huge Shippes to brooke the Sea, onely with one man to steere them, which shal saile farre more swiftly then if they were full of men. And Chariots that shall mooue with an vnspeakeable force, without any liuing creature to stirre them: such as the crooked Chariots are supposed to haue beene, wherein in olde time they vsed to fight, yea instruments to flie withall, so that one sitting in the middle of the Instrument, and turning about an Engine, by which the winges being artificially composed may beate the ayre after the maner of a flying bird. Besides, there may bee made a small Instrument in quantitie, to lift vppe, and let downe things of great waight, then which there is nothing more commodious to weigh with. For by an Instrument of three fingers high, and three fingers broad and lesse quantitie, may a man ridde himselfe, and his companions from all daunger of imprisonment, and lift them vp, and let them downe. Yea such an Instrument may easily be made, whereby a man may violently draw vnto him a thousand men, will they, nill they, and any other thing.
 
Moreouer instruments may be made wherewith men may walke in the bottome of the Sea or Riuers without bodily danger, which Alexander the great vsed, to the ende he might beholde the secrets of the seas, as the Ethick Philosopher reporteth: and these haue bin made not onely in times past, but euen in our dayes. And it is certaine that there is an instrument to flie with, which I neuer sawe, nor know any mã that hath seene it, but I full wel know by name the learned man that inuented the same. In a worde, a man may make an infinite sort of such things: as bridges ouer Riuers without postes or pillers, and instruments and engins neuer heard of before.
As you can see, the part about knowing the inventor’s name doesn’t apply to the flying machine of the earlier paragraph but to a second and separate one. The text was translated again in 1695, from a copy said to be owned by John Dee. I won’t repeat the whole thing, but the most relevant lines are given this way: “These all of them (excepting only that instrument of flying, which I never saw or know any,  who hath seen it, though I am exceedingly acquainted with a very prudent man, who hath invented the whole Artifice) with infinite such like inventions, Engines and devices are feasible….”
 
Now, why anyone would use this translation when a more modern and readable one, from 1923, is available, I can’t imagine. In clearer language it reads:
Mechanical Devices.—It is possible that great ships and sea-going vessels shall be made which can be guided by one man and will move with greater swiftness than if they were full of oarsmen. It is possible that a car shall be made which will move with inestimable speed, and the motion will be without the help of any living creature. Such, it is thought, were the currus falcati which the ancients used in combat. It is possible that a device for flying shall be made such that a man sitting in the middle of it and turning a crank shall cause artificial wings to beat the air after the manner of a bird's flight. Similarly, it is possible to construct a small-sized instrument for elevating and depressing great weights, a device which is most useful in certain exigencies. For a man may ascend and descend, and may deliver himself and his companions from peril of prison, by means of a device of small weight and of a height of three fingers and a breadth of four. It is possible also easily to make an instrument by which a single man may violently pull a thousand men toward himself in spite of opposition, or other things which are tractable.
 
It is possible also that devices can be made whereby, without bodily danger, a man may walk on the bottom of the sea or of a river. Alexander used these to observe the secrets of the sea, as Ethicus the astronomer relates. These devices have been made in antiquity and in our own time, and they are certain. I am acquainted with them explicitly, except with the instrument for flying which I have not seen. And I know no one who has seen it. But I know a wise man who has thought out the artifice. Infinite other such things can be made, as bridges over rivers without columns or supports, and machines, and unheard-of engines. (trans. Tenney L. Davis, adapted)
Before we go any farther, it is worth noting that there is debate about whether the text belongs to Bacon or was written after his death by someone using materials associated with Bacon. For our purposes, it does not matter since even a forged text is still medieval and likely from within a century or so of the death of Bacon. For convenience I will refer to the author as Bacon, the traditional attribution.

The first paragraph is, basically, science fiction—Bacon’s fantasy about what could be done in the future. He is trying to say that science will create wonders that will outstrip the supposed wonders of magic. The second paragraph describes actual reports of scientific wonders. Whether they are true is another story, but they were believed to be true. Medieval versions of the Alexander Romance contain, for example, the description of the bathysphere that he supposedly used to visit the bottom of the sea. Bathyspheres had been used in ancient times, and references to them in Aristotle helped to inspire medieval legends. This is not our concern here, but the point is that the author wasn’t making it up.
 
The next line about the flying machine is interesting in that it appears to claim that Bacon knew a man who built a flying machine. It does not, however, say that this was an airplane. Bacon also says he never saw the machine but only heard tell of it.
 
Hanks got his mangled quotation from Fulbright scholar Benjamin B. Olshin’s Lost Knowledge: The Concept of Vanished Technologies and Other Human Histories (Brill, 2019), where the author inexplicably runs the various sentences from the 1597 translation together even after correctly giving the translation from Tenney Davis. Hanks simply copied word-for-word without checking the source. Olshin, similarly, did not read the original but copied from a photograph of part of a page of the original in J. E. Hodgson’s History of Aeronautics in Great Britain, but his choice to excerpt deceptively baffles me.
 
Bacon appears to be referring to something like a hang glider, which was already known in the medieval world. While the text seems to imply that Bacon knew the inventor personally, knowing him “by name” more likely refers to the fact that he knew of the man who had invented such a device. As a product of the period after Arabic texts History of Aeronautics in Great Britain became available in Europe, the author might have known, for example, of the story of Andalusian scholar Abbas ibn Firnas (810-887 CE) who supposedly attached wings to his body and glided for some distance before crashing. The best-known account of his flight was written too late—in the 1500s—for Bacon to have read it, but that text claims that a ninth century document described it, and there was apparently a textual tradition about it.
 
The original Latin of Bacon’s letter is a bit ambiguous. In the key word is “cognsco,” meaning “I know” or “I am acquainted with” or “I am familiar with.” In the same paragraph, Bacon uses the word three times, once meaning that he is familiar with something, once to mean he does not personally know a person, and then this third time where either might be meant by the context when discussing the inventor of the flying machine. It sounds like he’s saying somebody told him about inventing a glider, but there isn’t enough detail to know for sure that he didn’t mean he was fully informed about someone who once did.
35 Comments
US Resolution 33 (2007)
1/14/2020 08:36:39 am

https://www.congress.gov/110/bills/hres33/BILLS-110hres33ih.pdf

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Crash55
1/14/2020 07:31:39 pm

It died in Congress

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/110/hres33

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US Resolution 33 (2007)
1/14/2020 08:02:58 pm

House - 01/09/2019 Referred to the House Committee on Oversight and Reform

America is still without a religious primate in relation to its objective of Freedom of Belief

Crash55
1/14/2020 08:07:16 pm

What was referred to the House Committee on Oversight and Reform?

Your above resolution is from a previous congress and thus the number is no longer valid. House Resolution 33 in the current Congress has to do with the USPS

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-resolution/33

Crash55
1/14/2020 08:22:11 pm

Only two resolutions were referred to the Oversight and Reform Committee on 9 Jan 2019.

HR 33 about the USPS I linked to above and HR 34 which deals within National Animal Rescue Day https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-resolution/34?s=9&r=124

A search of Congress.gov shows nothing related to Freemasons during the current Congress.

US Resolution 33 (2007)
1/14/2020 08:51:56 pm

Nobody put forward any resolution that Christianity should become the official religion of America. Period.

Crash55
1/14/2020 08:54:44 pm

And hopefully no one will ever try such a thing as it would be blatantly unconstitutional.

What I don’t understand is how it relates to the blog post or you original comment?

Not the Comte de Saint Germain
1/14/2020 09:22:15 pm

It has nothing to do with the blog post. Freemasons are just this guy's third-favorite hobbyhorse, his very favorite being how everything in the Bible is lies and his second-favorite being how all religion originates with hallucinogens. He's an utter waste of time.

That's right, Not The Comte de St Germain
1/14/2020 09:32:34 pm

Hallucinogens being part of religion is okay if confined to South America, Mesoamerica and to Siberia. Nowhere else because it might encroach on your favourite religion.

US Resolution 33 (2007)
1/14/2020 09:36:06 pm

Quote from Blog: "Tom DeLonge is a Freemason" -- need to emphasise that Diana Pasulka belongs to Fringe.

Crash55
1/14/2020 09:47:51 pm

No question freemasonry is mentioned in the blog and is part of your original post. What I was asking is what does declaring an official religion have to do with either?

US Resolution 33 (2007)
1/14/2020 09:57:18 pm

Diana Pasulka is no more sceptical than organised religious faith

Not the Comte de Saint Germain
1/15/2020 01:01:10 am

"…might encroach on your favorite religion"? You STILL think I'm a Christian? Hah.

Just keep spinning your wheels in your mental ruts.

Mental Ruts
1/15/2020 05:18:58 am

Not so mental, you defender of the faith

33° Freemason
1/14/2020 09:50:44 am

Stephen Joel Trachtenberg was the 15th President of George Washington University 1988-2007 and 33° Freemason of the Scottish Rite

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Crash55
1/14/2020 07:35:15 pm

And what does he have to do with this blog post?

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33° Freemason
1/14/2020 08:05:50 pm

Freemasonry is mentioned and the difference between authentic Freemasonry and Fringe Freemasonry needs to be repeated, since Stephen Joel Trachtenberg is not of the Fringe variety and does not belong to the likes of Diana Pasulka

Crash55
1/14/2020 08:12:29 pm

Simply mentioning a name without some context doesn’t exactly point out the difference.

Where the lines are between the “normal” masons and the fringe though is not always that clear. Several of the fringe masons have had lodges participate in their programming.....

33° Freemason
1/14/2020 08:54:36 pm

Authentic Freemasonry is part of History and the history of the Enlightenment. Fringe Freemasonry doesn't belong anywhere.
There is a difference that is recognised by historians. Yes, there are Freemasons in the 21st century who believe in bullshit. We know that.

Crash55
1/14/2020 09:05:41 pm

Fringe masonry appears to have found its home on TV. Not sure about freemasonry but many of the fraternal organizations are seeing dropping membership. As numbers decrease organizations tend to be less selective.

Fringe freemasonry may be all anyone remembers in a few decades. Already I would say that in the general public’s view the fringe side of freemasonry is more well known than the traditional side.

Shane Sullivan
1/14/2020 10:47:42 am

I would lean toward "I know the name of the guy who invented the flying machine" since it's hard to imagine knowing him personally, and then claiming never to have met anyone who has seen it.

Or maybe in the language of the day it would have been assumed that he meant "other than the guy who invented it", I dunno. But in my no-real-knowledge-of-how-people-talked-in-Medieval-times mind, that makes less sense.

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Kal
1/14/2020 02:05:30 pm

The To the Stars Academy of Sciences is neither academic or of the sciences. A shadow cult maybe, but not an actual place of scholar.

I do know some medieval speak, from dramas. What he likely meant is 'he did not know of the man with the tale of the flying machine' not he 'didn't know him personally'. In modern type, 'he was an acquaintance but they were not friends', but it doesn't matter because it's fiction. It's more likely renaissance, not medieval anyway, or someone's Meade drunken inspiration from a ren faire.

Leonardo of de Vinci was indeed a title, not his last name. He was from de Vinci. In modern tongue, it would be like saying Jason of New York, or Benrie of Vermont, or Donald of New York or Florida.

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Wow
1/14/2020 07:26:22 pm

Wow. This page went from 30 comments to 6 comments.

Interesting.

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Crash55
1/14/2020 07:28:22 pm

That is because one of the threads devolved into what you would expect from a bunch of middle schoolers playing COD.

It had no value and I am glad a Jason or someone cleaned it up

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WOW
1/14/2020 07:40:02 pm

What I'm hearing is "I hate Jim.' If that's your situation, that's fine, but I liken it to banning Mein Kampf. I want to know what Hitler was thinking. I want to know what Jim was thinking. He's one of the voices of reason here, and for his thread to get pulled, what's going on?

Crash55
1/14/2020 07:46:45 pm

It appeared to be a Kent and Jim going at each other but the names were getting screwy so I have no clue who exactly was involved. It was pretty much all personal attacks so no actual content

Doctor Mirabilis
1/14/2020 11:59:10 pm

Maybe Kent copied and pasted the comments before they were deleted and he can repost them in a new comment?

Doc Rock
1/15/2020 06:29:26 am

Wow,

Just look up Les Maitres Fous on YouTube. It will provide a nice illustration of how half of that argument probably went.

Russian Olympic Basketball Referee
1/14/2020 08:21:47 pm

You have yet to learn the unspoken rule. As long as it is Joe Scales and Kent harassing and insulting visitors here the moderation tends to be light or non-existent no matter how many times that they cross the line. However, on occasion when people get fed up and start to respond in equal measure in a sustained manner then the management suddenly takes an interest in moderating things.

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Wow
1/15/2020 02:37:48 pm

Now I remember. This was when Jim said "Wrong again Kentypoo" like a limp-wristed homosexual instead of a a strong homosexual (they do exist!) and Kent spelled out phrase by phrase that he was completely not wrong, then some guy went crazy about a wheelbarrow.

Why all that got deleted is a mystery.

Will Geer
1/15/2020 03:18:09 pm

The moral of the story is that it takes a strong homosexual to push a wheel barrow?

Crash55
1/15/2020 05:36:37 pm

I thought the moral of the story was that the Internet reduces people to middle school levels of behavior?

WOW
1/15/2020 06:45:51 pm

"WILL GEER
1/15/2020 03:18:09 pm
The moral of the story is that it takes a strong homosexual to push a wheel barrow?"

Isn't that the moral of every story?

"Wheel barrow" is a position, and if the other man has strong muscular legs (otherwise why bother?) YES.


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