"Roman" Ruins in Florida and a Bizarre Claim about Stonehenge as a Big Government Make-Work Project7/2/2014 Today I have two topics to discuss: A “Roman” hoax in Florida and an odd claim that Stonehenge was a make-work welfare program for the unemployed. Earlier this month, South Floridians were excited at the possibility that Roman ruins had been found in Miami. A Facebook post depicting fallen pillars at a construction site in the city quickly went viral. According to the post, “This find will change everything we know about modern history if it can be dated and identified to truly be Roman.” The Our Crave “lifestyle” website ran this picture of the alleged discovery along with the first article about the claim: Our Crave asserted that it had contacted the National Archaeological Museum of Perugia and learned from them that many Romans fled the collapse of the Western Empire in the fifth century. The article speculated that the Romans intermarried with local Native Americans. Internet users were quick to relate the allegedly Roman ruins to claims popularized by an episode of America Unearthed that ran in late December 2013. In that episode, show host Scott Wolter concluded that Alexander Helios, the son of Cleopatra, was buried in Illinois. According to the Miami New Times, one Twitter user said “The Romans were in America... That’s why Caesar is buried in I think it’s Illinois... Huge cover-up. Cleopatra too.” A commenter on Our Crave compared the claims to those of another America Unearthed episode, which asserted that the Phoenicians had colonized New Hampshire. According to the Times, so many people were interested in the downtown Miami construction site that work crews had to erect opaque tarps to keep the gawkers away. The story took just minutes for the New Times to debunk. The columns in the photograph belonged to the building that had just been demolished, the historic Urmey Hotel, one of the older buildings in the city. It sported some Neoclassical columns, though the stonework depicted in the photograph appears to be belowground support columns from the foundation. The flap is another example of how fringe history claims can spread quickly online and feed into a larger alternative view of history, as the reaction to this story demonstrates. And now for something completely different… Will Toren was once a champion on Jeopardy, and his current employer, The Desert Sun newspaper, bills him as the paper’s “resident know-it-all.” In last week’s “Ask Will” column, Toren offered his views on the building of Stonehenge. They were, shall we see, unusual. He believes that standing stones were the result of later peoples’ jealousy of Neolithic burial mounds. He feels the stones were erected by building a large tumulus, pushing the rocks up the mound, and then removing the dirt from beneath until the rocks settle into place: It seems to me more than possible that the idea for building Stonehenge evolved over a desire to "top" the mound builders and the realization that if someone (or to be more accurate dozens of someones) were to push a massive rock up to the top of the mound, then dig out the dirt beneath it in a strategic way, it would be possible to produce something marvelous. He then attributes the building of the site to Druids. John Aubrey proposed that theory in 1640, but scholars rejected it around 1800 when John Lubbock demonstrated that the site had been built during the Bronze Age, much older than the Iron Age Druids. Many archaeologists believe that the use of circular henges is associated with contact with people from Continental Europe, particularly the so-called Beaker culture. Toren goes on to discuss the monument as a make-work project designed to prevent idleness among the lazy welfare recipients who were living off of handouts from hardworking job creators: Civilization itself is said to begin when the number of people a society can feed begins to far outstrip the number of people needed to work to feed them. But since "idle hands are the devil's workshop" (again with the supernatural) people have to be given something to do, lest they get rowdy. Yes, Stonehenge was a “big government” project in an age that didn’t have big government, or much of one at all. Toren has a very deterministic view of civilization, and it’s rather hard to imagine how he sees there being a lazy class of unemployed freeloaders in British early Bronze Age society, when the only people who (may have) lacked an occupation were the families of the elites. The rural poor did not have the luxury of sitting around waiting for the rich to give them stuff. Archaeologists believe that the people who built Stonehenge lived in an agricultural society, with most farming crops and raising livestock, primarily pigs and sheep. The economy of the Bronze Age in Britain wasn’t defined by official employment statistics. Almost everybody farmed, and the only way not to be a farmer was to have a skill you could trade for food or to be a member of the elite (who, in many cultures, owned lands that others farmed, and collected a percentage of the yield). How else does Toren imagine this surplus farm yield was being distributed? As far as archaeology knows, there wasn’t a Bronze Age welfare office where freeloaders could cash in hand-carved food stamps, at least not until Rome instituted free grain distribution to the urban poor several thousand years later. (The situation was different in the Ancient Near East, where large cities necessitated more complex economic and social relationships.) But this isn’t an isolated opinion. Consider Toren’s views on zombies, published a couple of weeks earlier. He explained that zombie movies represent the triumph of economic determinism, for they are cheaper (!) than training stunt people for ninja movies. (He may want to check the CGI and makeup budget for a zombie movie.) He also claims that zombies serve as political allegories for the job creators and the mindless takers sponging off of them: Those who identify with the so-called "1 percent" can see themselves in the rugged heroes, forced to rely on their own craftiness to stand up to the mindless masses concerned only with filling their bellies. Those more in step with the "occupy" movement movement (sic) can identify with the struggle to remain an individual against an overwhelming tide of conformity. Indeed, those mindless welfare hordes are coming for your brains, or money, or both; in this analogy brains and money are interchangeable, and only certain people have them. Even Toren’s “opposing” view from the “Occupy” perspective (because we are apparently living in 2011) is really the same one: that there are a brave few übermenschen defined by superior individual willpower and character but who are constantly threatened by a soul-sapping, society of moochers trying to destroy their power.
Stonehenge, zombies… It’s all about protecting the hardworking makers from those lazy takers. No wonder he dismisses the bloodsucking aristocratic vampires (like, say, Lord Ruthven, Sir Francis Varney, Countess Carmilla, Count Dracula, Edward Cullen, etc.) not as wealthy leeches living large off of non-elite society but rather as amoral sex fiends who cannot control their “carnal desire and sexuality.” You know: liberals.
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An Over-Educated Grunt
7/2/2014 04:44:49 am
Two things here. First, soon as I saw the excavation site, it looked a whole lot more like drilled piers or footings to me than Classical columns. The concrete work is just too rough, there's no evidence of fluting, they're all graded level with the surrounding sitework, and the idea that Romans did it ignores all we know of Roman maritime technology.
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7/2/2014 05:11:10 am
That's why I said "in many cultures" ... I have no way to know how Bronze Age British farms were organized. It's possible that large projects were used to prevent dissent, but your examples were all from state-level societies. I don't think we have nearly enough information to say that Stonehenge operated with the same level of social complexity. It might have been more similar to Gobekli Tepe, where the evidence seems to indicate more of a cooperative project, rather than one imposed from above by a controlling authority.
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EP
7/6/2014 10:34:40 am
I wonder what happens to the discussion if we replace the word 'unemployed' with the word 'idle'... This way, we get rid of some anachronistic and political implications...
Gregor
7/2/2014 05:40:47 am
1, as Jason said, your examples are all of entrenched, well-documented governmental systems (monarchies) that had currencies, established trade routes, intricate governance and class (if not caste) systems. The fallacy is that you seem to assume all cultures develop at the same rate, and therefore every civilization that was present in age _____ was of roughly the same capability. The counterpoint is in "odd item" #1: Rome was a massive, far-flung empire with a complex economy and culture when the British isles were a collection of Celtic tribes and thatch-hut villages. So, at best you are positing an unnamed, undocumented unified Celtic nation-state that thrived enough to build a large, rough-hewn stone structure as a "keep them happy" project, then collapsed into abject poverty and relative simplicity in time to be discovered by the Romans (while leaving absolutely no traces behind, including tools, coinage, solid-structure ruins, etc.).
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An Over-Educated Grunt
7/2/2014 06:29:13 am
1. No, I don't posit anything of the kind, and no, I don't suggest that there's a massive missing Celtic nation-state with no legacy to confirm its existence. My point is that similar public works projects, using large-scale unskilled labor forces, did exist elsewhere, that they were at least to some extent social binding forces (see "It's possible, albeit unlikely, that a pay-to-play system existed and some sort of community labor on the project was required to draw from the granary or the smokehouse"), and that they existed in everything from city-states on up. What I was trying to suggest, apparently badly, since neither of you got that impression, was something more like John Smith's dictum to the Virginia colony: "He that does not work shall not eat." In a small enough society, you don't even need food stamps, chits, or any equivalent, you just need to have been seen on the job site that day. 7/2/2014 06:37:24 am
No, I understand the pay-to-play idea, but in a place where land is plentiful, there would seem to be too many options to make extreme manual labor an attractive alternative to either hunting and gathering or farming, absent other motivations (such as religion). It would seem like you'd have to have land ownership and artificial restrictions on who can use the land before you'd get a critical mass of people unable to feed themselves without selling labor.
An Over-Educated Grunt
7/2/2014 06:56:51 am
It depends (and I feel like I should add, before I get one of our friendly locals jumping down my throat, this is ALL speculation, on all our parts). I generally agree with your Gobekli Tepe example, but I'm assuming that we're talking about a fairly "flat" society. There may be elites, but there's not enough distance from straight subsistence for much of an upper class, and most sustenance-related tasks are going to be communal. Land is held in common, labor required for meat preservation through the winter is done in common, and so forth. I don't have the slightest clue whose idea it was to build Stonehenge, other than that it happened in stages (wooden posts, outer ditch, stone works, in increasing degrees of permanence); for the purposes of this discussion all I need to know is that there was some sort of British Imhotep or Frank Lloyd Wright. I just think that, in a small, tightly knit society where everyone knows everyone else, there's no need to resort to religion as a motivator for the labor force where simple ostracism will do just as well. Once the decision is made to build it, during the construction season, you don't work on it, you don't get to draw from the common stores. Developing a reputation as a shirker has its own complications in a fairly closed society, even if you can go "eh, no thanks, rather catch my own rabbits." 7/2/2014 07:37:05 am
I completely take your point, and I think we can both agree that this is quite different from the claim that the project existed in order to make work for the unemployed.
An Over-Educated Grunt
7/2/2014 07:39:24 am
Absolutely. That would require a concept of "employment."
Gregor
7/2/2014 05:14:26 am
A leap of faith fit to make Indiana Jones blush. "Hey, remember me? That one guy who won a popular trivia game show back when? Right! Now listen to my uninformed opinions on things I never studied and don't understand, followed by generic asshattery!"
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Walt
7/2/2014 08:35:06 am
It's ironic that you can see how his conservatism has shaped his views, but can never see how your own liberalism has similarly tainted your own views.
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7/2/2014 10:31:35 am
You mean like the way conservatism "shapes" but liberalism "taints"?
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Walt
7/2/2014 11:33:30 am
How convenient of you to leave out the word "similarly". 7/2/2014 12:47:01 pm
Walt, no one is required to be 100% neutral on every issue, nor would it be useful. Let me quote Charles Darwin: "How odd it is that anyone should not see that all observation must be for or against some view if it is to be of any service!" I won't apologize for not being a robot.
Walt
7/2/2014 01:47:16 pm
You don't have to be a robot to divorce your personal feelings from your work. You can still think like a liberal or conservative about an issue while writing that "a liberal or conservative would likely feel" a certain way.
EP
7/2/2014 01:56:27 pm
Jason, I'd be even more likely to buy your books if you did turn out to be a robot! How cool would that be?! 7/2/2014 02:11:39 pm
My blog contains my views, and I won't apologize for that. If you don't like it, you're welcome to read my published articles instead, which are much closer to your preferred stance. My books are even more so; critics of "Knowing Fear" complained that it had too few opinions and conclusions. Obviously, I can't win. My blogging is for views, reactions, and opinions; and my articles and books are for more academic work.
EP
7/2/2014 03:21:29 pm
"I just think your work will be less likely to be considered dated and quaint in the future if you wrote as an observer of modern times as you seem to do for ancient times. I often think your writing lacks perspective."
EP
7/2/2014 09:10:31 am
Will Toren is what happens when trivial learning is substituted for intellectual development.
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Dave Lewis
7/2/2014 12:48:26 pm
Well spoken!
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charlie
7/2/2014 01:55:05 pm
Absolutely!
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gdave
7/2/2014 10:52:22 am
Jason,
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7/2/2014 12:44:44 pm
Yes, Tolen's presentation is tentative and involves presenting his "preferred" theory. That isn't any different than what ancient astronaut theorists do ("I'm just asking questions!"), and yes I took the opportunity to draw conclusions from Tolen's premises. His premises imply the existence of a controlling governmental authority, their desire to prevent rowdiness (as well as to stop, in his own words, "idle hands"), and he compares the building (in a confused way) to the so-called bridge to nowhere. That he uses rhetorical language to do so ("I'm not saying...") doesn't make it any less so. Cicero taught that rhetorical strategy. The premises and the analogies he used are the same used by conservative politicians in their rhetoric about the poor, and I picked up on the echoes. And like those politicians, there is a disconnect between the literal meaning of the words and what the audience can take from them.
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666
7/2/2014 12:55:23 pm
I didn't see any worthwhile credibility in Tolen's argument worthy enough of all the monumental discussion that was devoted to him here
EP
7/2/2014 01:51:13 pm
Not to mention that one's "preferred theory" is the theory to which one assigns at least plurality credence and considers better supported or more believable than any other single theory. Heliocentrism is the preferred theory or model of the solar system among contemporary scientists, etc., etc...
gdave
7/3/2014 01:01:06 am
666's comment below is well taken, and Jason, I'm sure you've got a lot of more interesting things to do, but if you don't mind continuing the conversation a bit:
Varika
7/2/2014 06:32:26 pm
"He very clearly states that "people have to be given something to do, lest they get rowdy." What he seems to me to be implying is not about making lazy welfare recipients work, but rather making sure all of those peasants are kept occupied during the agricultural off-season, rather than, say, rebelling."
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EP
7/3/2014 05:52:33 pm
The climate of the British Isles has changed a great deal over the last few millenia, I believe...
666
7/2/2014 11:45:38 pm
All messages, including forthcoming messages, however scientifically and technically presented with highbrow syntax, are pure 200% speculation. All common sense authors and television presenters on bonafide documentaries like "Timewatch" always point this out when trying out their own possible explanations
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Don
7/4/2014 02:59:04 pm
Ancient public works projects:
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