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Science Channel Giant "Expert" Bruce Fenton Claims Psychic Time Travel Powers, Grey Alien in His House

8/18/2014

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Editor's note: This piece has been edited to incorporate clarifications requested by Bruce Fenton in the comments below.

I used to wonder whether Prometheus Entertainment would try to enforce its trademark on the name Ancient Aliens, but it seems increasingly clear that they have never tried. Ancient Aliens guest Mike Bara has a line of Ancient Aliens on… books that are not endorsed by the company and continue to come out even when he’s working for competing TV shows. And Bruce Fenton published Ancient Aliens in Australia, whose cover apes the TV show’s title card in design and color scheme. If I were an attorney, I’d probably start suggesting that the term “Ancient Aliens” has become a generic synonym for ancient astronauts.
This leads into a discussion of Bruce Fenton’s latest doings since he recently claimed to have discovered a castle made of human bones and the remains of a giant in the Caucasus Mountains of Georgia. Fenton is now claiming that the castle is 10,000 to several million years old (“pre-Flood” at any rate), that it is a crumbled ruin made of rock “fused” with bone, and that the bones are fossilized. He now says the “ruin” is only a few stones visible atop a hill that he believes is an underground citadel of the Old Ones—er, a buried prehistoric fort. In other words, it sounds like he is describing a naturally eroded fossil bed atop a hill.

The Science Channel’s Unexplained Files paid Fenton to travel to Georgia to look for a lost race of pre-Flood giants for an episode to air sometime this season. Even though the format of each episode follows an expert investigator in exploring a mystery, Fenton denies being an expert on any subject other than the paranormal.

Fenton’s many claims run the gamut from unsupported to illogical, but that isn’t what interests me today. In an interview with the Altsider radio show transcribed on the Message to Eagle website, Fenton gives fascinating details about the way his interest in conspiracies rapidly grew into an all-encompassing paranoia about the hidden role of international financiers in controlling the strings of the world.

His story starts off almost identically to my own encounters with the unexplained, and the resemblance is startling:
…from the age of about 10-11 I took an interest in ancient mysteries and I covered, I would say, a high range from the pyramids to the crystal skulls and the Loch Ness monster, you know – pretty much anything a bit strange in Earth’s history I became sort of fascinated with and then when I hit 15 I started to have spontaneous psychic experiences in the form of telepathy. That led me on into an interesting psychism and the paranormal and the parapsychology, because I was personally experiencing it so I knew that there was a reality that we had not been taught about that was just as valid as the one that we had so I began to also study the paranormal and the occult as well as these other ancient mysteries.
In The Cult of Alien Gods (2005), I described my own childhood encounters with the unexplained, which for me came a bit later, around age 11 or 12—roughly sixth or seventh grade:
For me, my first contact with the world of the strange came from television. In countless hours spent watching the Discovery Channel and A&E, I had encountered this strange idea of prehistoric visitation buried in the sensational documentaries that I could not have then known were less than faithful to facts. […] I believed whole-heartedly in the theory of ancient visitors, convinced that the powers that be were concealing a fabulous past from me. I wanted to believe and I needed to believe.
My late grandmother was convinced that she had psychic powers, particularly prophetic dreams, and for a while I, too, thought that I might also be so gifted. At the age of 11, such things seemed logical enough.

Fenton’s path and my own diverged markedly during our college years. Fenton maintained an active interest in the paranormal and in paranoia, which he considered a separate track that he kept isolated from first his schooling and then his career in finance, writing of “my passion and my job. The two have been fairly separate.” When I started college, I, too, had kept my interest in fringe history and unexplained mysteries separate from my degree path in journalism, but as I wrote in Cult of Alien Gods, I had always been plagued by doubt. Fenton is four years older than I, and for him fringe claims are a spectrum of far-out ideas basking the haze of the New Age. For me, though, these claims were not a spectrum of mutual support but were competing explanations that contradicted each other, most notably in the fact that Graham Hancock’s lost civilization theory explained differently the same evidence Erich von Däniken used to support ancient astronauts. Both could not be true, so was either?

While Fenton chose not to explore his “passion” academically, I did. In college I added an anthropology major to my degree and systematically explored the evidence for fringe history and ancient astronauts. The house of cards would not stand. I read Walter van Beek’s classic article in which he visited the Dogon and concluded that the so-called Sirius Mystery did not exist. Mountains of fringe history began to fall—including those explicitly drawing on Robert Temple’s claims from Sirius, especially Robert Bauval, who cited Temple as his inspiration, and Graham Hancock, who built on Bauval.
With that, I had to sadly conclude that I had been deceived. Even though I loved these books, I knew they were not true. Sure, there were anomalies worthy of investigation and even a possibility that somewhere in the distant past there was some sort of link between cultures or even a vanished civilization, but this evidence that these authors presented was not the answer. I had hoped that it was true; I had wanted it to be true. But I could not prove it, and neither could they.
Contrast that with Fenton. He moved on to a job in banking, and he began to use bank resources to explore the paranormal, to the point it metastasized in his mind and took over the way he perceived his career, not just the occult:
Yes, it used to be quite funny and I would tell other members of the team about the paranormal and it began to become more and more a part of my day-to-day life and it was incorporated into that finance world and really the issue came with that when I really started to look more at the conspiracies that had to do with banking and finance themselves.
The was when Fenton was 21-24 years old, the same age when I started researching and writing my Cult of Aliens Gods (21) and publishing the same (24).

So what accounts for the difference?

Fenton describes himself in terms that in previous investigations of other claimants skeptical investigator Joe Nickell has identified as a “fantasy-prone personality.” He believes, for example, that he experiences spontaneous astral time travel, what the rest of us might term dreams or daydreams. Here’s one he claims to have had in 2002:
I had a spontaneous mystical experience when I was online talking to somebody in a chatroom and the next thing I would literally be out of my body, flying over a jungle, seeing towards a stepped Mayan temple, a pyramid.
I’ve experienced intense dreams, too—though usually not while lulled into a trance state by boredom—but the vistas I see in my dreams are closer to what H. P. Lovecraft described in the Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath—impossible fantasias that quite clearly could not and will never be part of the real world. Fenton, though, claims that his vision was a folie à deux, and that his chat partner also experienced the same fantasy.

In other instances, Fenton claims to have experienced strong feelings to travel to the sites featured on Ancient Aliens (and in most fringe mystery literature), particularly Giza and Angkor Wat, in order to see the remnants of what he calls the “Mu culture” that preceded Atlantis. He claims after 2012 to have had “shamanic” experiences communicating via a medium with a race of blue-skinned aliens in white jumpsuits, the Pleiadians—and because these Na’vi, er, Pleiadians—are seven-foot-tall giants, he became convinced that the Nephilim-Giants must also be real. He gleaned this information from his wife, who claimed to engaging in "trans-mediumship" with Lord Pacal of Palenque. Why him? Oh, right: He’s the “rocket man” whose coffin lid Erich von Däniken claimed represented a spaceship.

We should be worried, Fenton says, because “there is (sic) a lot of Pleiadian children that are looking to incarnate onto the Earth plane.”

It gets worse. He and his medium wife have had still more experiences: “We started seeing a Gray in the house so we have had interrelated experiences with other beings if you like.” He also says that while high on drugs during a shamanic ceremony he had a past life regression and realized he is the reincarnation of a space alien who came to earth in the distant past. He claims, from information gleaned from an Australian woman with similar visions, that his ancient alien self was involved in a Reptilian ambush, and in the interview states that most aliens died in the attack. In the comments below, Fenton specifies that "I did not say I died in the Reptilian ambush. In the experience the mother ship was destroyed but I was piloting a smaller ship towards Earth."

I don’t like to speculate about what goes on in other people’s heads, since an individual’s internal world belongs only to him—Graham Hancock has similarly claimed to battle invisible monsters, but when he’s high on drugs. I do draw the line when others try to tell me that a person’s internal universe should be mine, too. I am appalled that the Science Channel is giving air time—and paying!—a man who claims to have a Grey alien in his house and to hold séances with blue aliens to “investigate” Reptilian conspiracies. Regardless of what you think of Fenton’s mental universe, giving him air time and claiming him as an expert on the reality we share in the physical world is grossly irresponsible. The Science Channel’s Unexplained Files simply must—though I know they won’t from their failure to disclose past guests’ credibility problems—disclose that Fenton believes he is a psychic time traveler with an occasional Grey alien houseguest. To do anything less is to deceive the audience.

I say this, too, as someone who is supposed to be working with the Science Channel’s sister station American Heroes Channel this month for a different series, Codes and Conspiracies, knowing full well that criticizing the mother ship probably won’t go down well.

129 Comments
EP
8/18/2014 08:08:52 am

"I am appalled that the Science Channel is giving air time—and paying!—a man who claims to have a Grey alien in his house"

At least Fenton isn't a(n alleged) pedophile (as far as we know), unlike someone else who claimed to have a Grey alien in his house:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/20/stan-romanek-child-pornography_n_4813196.html

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.
8/18/2014 08:13:47 am

this is like the guy who said he had a poor murdered Bigfoot
in his freezer. exactly who is the dude putting under house
arrest, yes... and as to the guy and his big foot... okaaaaaay.

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PaulN. link
8/18/2014 09:25:55 am

I had a spontaneous psychic experience once. It was 1965 and I had just watched the first episode of an epic new t.v. show. It was all about re-incarnation of the most remarkable kind. It ran for only 30 episodes before it was cancelled by 'the Powers what Is',in a malevolent bid to hide the truth.
The name of the show My Mother the Car. Yeah! the show was real smegging crapturd. I was surprised that it actually made it on the air let alone 30 episodes!!

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spookyparadigm
8/18/2014 10:39:00 am

Good lord.

The ant-people archaeologists of the future will look back on some of the material in this post, what we thought Science was, as good data on what caused the Human Collapse and Extinction. I'd add the section of the confirmation hearings of Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan (and this isn't a knock on her) in which she made small talk about taking her daughter to see a Twilight movie, and one of the senators asked her if she was Team Edward or Team Jacob. That might be the best markable moment when we fell.

I suspect that for a lot of fans of this stuff, if they didn't have an "experience" with it as an adult, their story probably sounds a lot like this, though in my case it started earlier (I was reading Nessie and Bigfoot books, as my gateway from dinosaurs, around 6-7 years old), then getting media reinforcement (In Search of ...) then "exploration" in ones teens, before either wising up or doubling down.

Which reminds me of a great quote: The Golden Age of Science Fiction is 12.

I've heard a variant of this that most men's favorite James Bond movie is the one that was released in their early puberty years.

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EP
8/18/2014 10:51:42 am

Are you saying that you never have intense mystical experiences when posting here?!

(Also, did you read the interview transcript in its entirety? If not, I strongly recommend it!)

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EP
8/18/2014 11:23:01 am

"obviously some people are just saying “oh, drugs” but obviously these plants have a history of shamanic use for altering censoriousness to take shamanic journeys."

"...I think we are, all of us, you know, this is what I feel – you’re soul energies, star seeded or whatever but all of us are immensely powerful when it comes to source level – we are all coming out of the same singular conscientiousness..."

"I do see this as being guided by the Pleiadians – I don’t think that it is an accident that since their involvement I suddenly became involved with two lost civilizations, you know."

"They decided that they wanted to film in Georgia but they wanted me to still be involved and I think they are going to use some of my footage from Ecuador but they wanted to film in Georgia"

"Some of them are fragments, some of them are large, significant pieces, complete pieces of bone."

"One of the other points is that this bone is fossilized. So it has been mixed in and at some point long enough ago that the bone is now fossilized."

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spookyparadigm
8/18/2014 01:39:04 pm

Reminds me of this. The film is a bit long (if edited down to the usual 44 minutes, I suspect it would be very good), but worth checking out.

https://www.reelhouse.org/dragonsofjimgreen/dragonsjimgreen

EP
8/18/2014 02:15:04 pm

This film is looking *really* good for what one'd expect, actually. Jim Green's "research" is arguably of higher quality than Fenton's. Which really puts Fenton's involvement with the Science Channel in perspective.

spookyparadigm
8/18/2014 02:29:57 pm

I agree, I like the film. And I'll tell you, there are some lessons to be learned from the biologist who visits the house. I'm an archaeologist, not an ethnographer by training, but the ability to not just counter the claims, as he shows, is impressive at times.

EP
8/18/2014 02:31:56 pm

Not sure what you mean, exactly. Could you elaborate?

spookyparadigm
8/18/2014 03:01:48 pm

When the biologist visits and is able to basically be quiet and listen. He asks questions, and sometimes get answers. A lot of these answers are ridiculous, but rather than respond with "yes, but ..." he just rolls with it.

I know the value of that, but at the same time, if someone is showing me what I know are worm tracks in a fossilized sea bed, but is telling me it's actually the cut marks made on a counter top by a reptilian short-order cook killed in his work 34 million years ago, work that is almost exactly the same as that of an idealized 1940s diner ... I'm just saying I would have to work at keeping a straight and open perspective with him on that.

Now, in one sense, he's more dismissive of this than I am. He doesn't even remotely begin to address these claims as anything other than "outsider art" which given the situation should really be read as "incredibly well-expressed delusions" as Green certainly doesn't see it as art, so he obviously doesn't respect the guy enough to even take them seriously. In other words, he's just lying to him the entire time. On the other hand, he's exceedingly polite and patient with him. To intellectually respect him more, one would end up being an asshole. To personally respect him more, one basically has to patronizingly write off everything he's telling you.

EP
8/18/2014 03:12:49 pm

I don't know - isn't the most intellectually respectable thing precisely to appreciate the creativity and the aesthetic merit, while at the same time acknowledging that the person cannot really be reasoned with? It's not like people who treat William Blake this way (for example) are being in any way disrespectful.

(I think there are interesting parallels between the two cases, by the way. Both men are very good at fitting together pieces from external sources into the puzzle they don't even realize they are aiming to solve. Both are also completely lacking self-criticism when it comes to their own worldviews, or even capacity to consider alternative hypotheses rationally.)

spookyparadigm
8/18/2014 06:27:32 pm

If the guy across the table from you sincerely believes what they're saying, and you just nod and accept it while thinking that he doesn't even have the capacity to understand what he's doing, I don't know if it's intellectually respectful. It's intellectually honest, to yourself (trying to pick a fight with such an individual would be cruel/pointless, which is I think what you're saying if I understand correctly), but in terms of respecting the guy talking about schematicles or whatever his term was, it's not respecting him.

It's like talking to a child, or someone who is impaired. Which may be entirely appropriate, but it could come off as incredibly patronizing.

And as I said, I think there are lessons to be learned from this approach, both in terms of learning more from someone, and honestly being healthier to oneself. Doesn't it almost feel like we're discussing Mr. Knowles again, except the other way around? That we're being too literal, rather than standing back and experiencing it all as art (even if that art is piecing together bits and pieces in ways that only work as narrative, not history)?

EP
8/18/2014 06:39:12 pm

"It's like talking to a child, or someone who is impaired. Which may be entirely appropriate, but it could come off as incredibly patronizing."

It could, but only if we fail to remain constantly mindful of the fact that the person is indeed impaired. Talking to them this way is not a choice that we make, but something that circumstances force upon us as inevitable if we are to access the things that *are* worthy of appreciation and perhaps even respect.

"Doesn't it almost feel like... we're being too literal, rather than standing back and experiencing it all as art (even if that art is piecing together bits and pieces in ways that only work as narrative, not history)?"

I don't see the two as mutually exclusive, or even as mutually hindering - provided we keep the relevant boundaries firmly before our mind's eye. Otherwise, we'd have to dismiss most of the world's mythology as claptrap. It may be much easier to keep the boundaries in place when we aren't dealing with a live person across the table from us. But the requirements are basically the same.

Ronald W. Satz link
8/18/2014 11:36:12 am

I am appalled that the Science Channel would promote such nonsense--only for ratings. The level of scientific knowledge of the general populace is very low; our TV channels should be correcting the situation, not making it worse.

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EP
8/18/2014 11:39:17 am

"The level of scientific knowledge of the general populace is very low"

You really shouldn't be accusing anyone of low level of scientific knowledge. Unless you're just looking for more ridicule.

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Dave Lewis
8/19/2014 03:13:52 pm

Mr. Satz: has any of your work been published in a peer reviewed journal?

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Ronald W. Satz link
8/20/2014 01:31:46 pm

All work done on the Reciprocal System is peer-reviewed by other members of ISUS, Inc. So the answer is "Yes," of course.

EP
8/20/2014 01:37:25 pm

Either RWS doesn't know how peer review works, or he is being dishonest. I want to believe that it's the former, both because it would absolve him of moral fault and because it's really funny.

EP
8/18/2014 11:36:18 am

Bruce Fenton is basicaly what happens when the guy who sees Jesus in a piece of toast decides to cosplay Indiana Jones.

"At one point I saw something that seemed to be a skull design carved into the cliff wall just above us, though one would have to allow for thousands of years of water erosion to account for its current state. Clearly the basic form of a face was present."

http://www.messagetoeagle.com/images2/giantsgeorgia7.jpg

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BillUSA
8/18/2014 09:17:58 pm

"Bruce Fenton is basicaly what happens when the guy who sees Jesus in a piece of toast decides to cosplay Indiana Jones."

Or when the guy steps into a tiger enclave at a Russian zoo thinking God is going to protect him.

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Ronald W. Satz link
8/18/2014 12:06:22 pm

Hey, EP, you little twerp: I'm a Ph.D. scientist and engineer; you are not. I am listed in all of the major Who's Who books; you are not. You don't have one ten-trillionth of my knowledge.

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EP
8/18/2014 12:18:54 pm

Now, now... Is that a way for a PhD to talk?... :)

You are someone who thinks being listed in Who's Who books is evidence of extensive knowledge. You think that Leonard Peikoff is an authority in philosophy of physics. You think that quantum mechanics is irrelevant to engineering. There a page on RationalWiki devoted to mocking your ignorance of basic science. None of that is true of me. I rest content.

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Only Me
8/18/2014 05:17:45 pm

Is that one ten-trillionth figure in accordance with Reciprocal Math or conventional math?

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Clint Knapp
8/18/2014 05:22:11 pm

Name calling, claiming to be smarter than someone you don't know, and pretending to know who might be behind an alias or what their knowledge base might be should be beneath a "Ph.D. scientist and engineer". Or anyone holding themselves to a scientific standard- real or perceived.

You claim that your "scientific" Theory of Everything requires adding a "metaphysical layer". Metaphysics, as one might recognize, is not physics at all. It's philosophy. One should not have to point out that philosophy is not science.

I can argue that gravity does not exist and the reason things are drawn toward the ground is because invisible space elves fill the atmosphere and exist to push everything down. It's impossible to prove wrong; you can't prove unequivocally that invisible space elves are in fact not pushing everything around; but I can't prove they are either. That's metaphysics. That's what you're advocating in the place of tested theories and proven results.

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EP
8/18/2014 05:34:57 pm

"One should not have to point out that philosophy is not science."

Fortunately for RWS, what he's doing isn't science either... By the way, what does a "Ph.D. scientist" study? "Ph.D. Science"?

Clint Knapp
8/18/2014 06:08:35 pm

Good question. This whole discussion and Jason's observations of the parallel nature of his and Fenton's childhood interests (and I'm sure many of us reading this right now) has me thinking, though.

I'm wondering by what mechanism it actually becomes less damaging to the fringe theorist's sense of self to continue on their path in the face of all opposing data. Where's the event horizon of fringedom which one cannot cross without abandoning all hope of returning?

Some might argue it's religious in nature; but people abandon their religious beliefs all the time. Fringe theorists almost never come back to rationality. I say 'almost' where I wouldn't have had any evidence of any doing so because George Knapp (no relation) had this little tidbit in his Knapp's News segment of Sunday's Coast to Coast:
http://ufotrail.blogspot.com/2011/09/leah-haley-on-alien-abduction-it-doesnt_17.html

EP
8/18/2014 06:14:49 pm

@ Clint:

You should check out the documentary spookyparadigm linked earler in this thread. It is a case study of just this question (and a very nicely made documentary in general).

"No relation"? Sure, sounds believable ;)

Clint Knapp
8/19/2014 02:21:05 am

I saw the link, but hadn't gone to check it out yet since I was posting in the last hour before sleep. I'll give it a look.

I'll amend that to no relation I'm aware of in the interest of allowing for generations further removed than I'm aware of.

Byron DeLear
8/19/2014 01:06:27 pm

@ Clint. The contrarian has massively honed and exercised muscles to push against rationality in opposition to common sense; it becomes a form of fundamentalism in which the inerrancy of scripture is replaced with whatever outlandish idiosyncratic design or theory is being pursued and/or offered. Magical thinking, of course, is amplified with brain chemical rewards creating a kind of addiction of "being right," and allowing for extreme malleability in the face of mounting opposition. Absolutely faith driven.

Uncle Ron
8/18/2014 01:27:09 pm

"...when I hit 15 I started to have spontaneous psychic experiences in the form of telepathy." - Fenton

Early-middle teens is when a lot of psychoses first manifest.

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Kal
8/18/2014 06:52:20 pm

Was the topic about a man with an grey alien or about which commenter can show up the next with inflated credentials?

Maybe the guy with the alien is Stan Smith from the cartoon show "American Dad". He has an alien, but he is a cartoon parody of a CIA man in a dysfunctional American family.

Maybe AU should examine this cartoon along with the AA guy with the hair as part of a special on ancient aliens influencing cartoons. They could then do one on the Simpsons when they visit Treehouse of Horror, or on Futurama.

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Clint Knapp
8/19/2014 02:30:49 am

I'm reminded of another man who claimed to have an alien in his house and continues to claim he sees said alien from time to time.

Dr. Jonathan Reed of the infamous "Alien in the Freezer" story: http://odisealink.com/

Haven't heard much out of him since his appearance on Art Bell's brief foray into satellite radio, Dark Matter, but the gist is that he clubbed an alien in the woods after it ripped his dog in half and then kept it in the freezer for a while until it healed itself and disappeared. The alien still maintains telepathic contact and does not hold a grudge.

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EP
8/19/2014 09:31:21 am

Reed's trolling, right? Right?

.
8/19/2014 10:26:55 am

he did interviews.
he sounded a tad
psychotic but i
know better than
to armchair speculate.
most likely he did not
have any E.T alien
body parts next to
his good stakes etc.
and on some UFO
'experiencer boards"
good folks were wondering
who he hit over the head.
This is worse than
what Richard Cheney did to
his very close friend on
that hunting trip, those
shotgun pellets. then
good folks started to
get the idea REED was
a mendex flagranti or
something like that.

.
8/19/2014 10:33:14 am

he sounded like he was going to chip off small pieces
of the very frozen E.T alien from his freezer and sell them
for several grand. like exotic first rate salmon. filet
mignon, even. like as if Gray Matter and Dark Matter
have something to do with Dark Energy. he said he
had killed the E.T so so he thought. This is before
"Bigfoot Bounty" and Dean Cain. it had its moments.
if he was trolling for something, it was for a bidding
war on E*Bay. he knew of the Roswell incident books.

Clint Knapp
8/19/2014 05:28:54 pm

Oh, Reed's almost certainly full of it. The last interview I heard was the Art Bell one on 9/18/2013, and while he puts a lot of passion and something resembling emotion into the interview, it sounds rather forced. The images and video he sent Art are laughable at best: http://artbell.com/jonathan-reed/

It might be saying something that in the same interview he admits most of his public speaking events occur outside of the United States because he finds Mexican and South American audiences more receptive to what he has to say.

EP
8/19/2014 05:33:08 pm

He should try Russian and Indian audiences as well. People like him are regularly featured on mainstream news over there.

Jerky
8/20/2014 12:52:46 am

If it's the same guy I'm thinking of, didn't he appear on Sci-Fi's "Fact or Faked: Paranormal Files"? I looked up more on the guy after that episode had aired and his story changed with him saying the Feds showed up and took the alien body (And his freezer) from him a few days after he clubbed it to death. The "then kept it in the freezer for a while until it healed itself and disappeared. The alien still maintains telepathic contact and does not hold a grudge." is one version of the story I haven't heard before.

This is the same Reed right?

Clint Knapp
8/20/2014 02:21:26 am

I could have the detail of the alien's disappearance wrong, Jerky. The 9/18/13 Dark Matter interview was my first and only real exposure to Reed, so I don't know how much of it is new material or not.

I do know at some point the alien began waking up and screaming at him whenever he'd open the freezer, and he opined it was healing itself in there and that the cold actually helped facilitate the process- which, you know, would make him the hero that saved its life and not just the lunatic who brained it with a stick.

As I recall, the whole interview is sort of a scatter-shot mess of backtracking to explain details he forgot to mention. I do remember the MiB involvement now that you mention it, though I was under the impression they didn't find the alien itself.

Either way, I'll give it another listen in a bit and try to pay more attention. I was playing Skyrim at the time of the first airing and it was far more interesting than his rambling about how his "link device" lets him teleport/time-travel/something-or-other but kills everyone else who tries it on.

Jerky
8/20/2014 03:03:30 am

Clint Knapp, I doubt you have it wrong, From what I head, Mr. Reed has changed his story a number of times, each time as a direct result of some one calling his story in to question.

"I was playing Skyrim at the time "

I can't fault you for that, Skyrim is a pretty good game. I must have raked up a few thousand hours on it back in 2011-13.

(sorry for any spelling errors, I haven't slept in about 2 and a half days. )

Jerky
8/20/2014 03:03:43 am

Clint Knapp, I doubt you have it wrong, From what I head, Mr. Reed has changed his story a number of times, each time as a direct result of some one calling his story in to question.

"I was playing Skyrim at the time "

I can't fault you for that, Skyrim is a pretty good game. I must have raked up a few thousand hours on it back in 2011-13.

(sorry for any spelling errors, I haven't slept in about 2 and a half days. )

Jerky
8/20/2014 03:19:50 am

I'm sorry about the repeat posting, it was accidental.

Only Me
8/18/2014 07:28:09 pm

How can anyone be an expert on pre-Flood giants when such beings haven't been proven to have existed? That's like proclaiming someone a dragon expert, a unicorn scholar or the sage of manticores.

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. Giorgio claims his "area of expertise" is ancient astronaut theory.

@EP

I guessed I missed those posts you mentioned. I've racked my brain and can't remember any of .'s chain posts containing death threats, veiled or otherwise.

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EP
8/18/2014 07:36:26 pm

It wasn't like "I know where you live, I'm going to cut you" kind of thing, admittedly. It was more like "Watch out, or else you'll end up like this". Still incredibly inappropriate. Plus, he impresonated me at one point as well. And now he called me a Nazi (again!), and saying that he's shitposting to "test" Jason. Clearly a "sound legal mind" if I ever seen one...

(Also, there are entire creepy subcultures of people claiming to be things like dragon experts out there!)

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Only Me
8/18/2014 08:06:05 pm

Oh, yeah, I remember reading something along the lines of being loaded into a train car by Nazis...or some muddled nonsense like that. Cool. I guess my mind can only interpret so much when my eyes hurt. Phil Spector created the "Wall of Sound" while . creates walls of text.

I probably shouldn't have mentioned the "d" word. I expect more references to fanfiction or role-playing games to commence.

EP
8/18/2014 08:12:55 pm

You stumble across a lonely dragon. Roll for anal circumference :)

Only Me
8/18/2014 08:50:18 pm

I got +5 Underoos of No Means No! and a Cloak of Indifference, buddy. That dragon's staying lonely.

Clint Knapp
8/19/2014 02:40:10 am

I'm sorry to report that a "unicorn scholar" does exist: Oberon Zell-Ravenheart, who claims he creates authentic unicorns by "special alchemical means" he "rediscovered": chemically binding the nubs of goat horns so they grow together.

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Only Me
8/19/2014 04:11:50 am

Well.

Shit.

I swear to God if someone finds a professed sage of manticores, I'm going to rage so hard, my floor will turn to lava.

.
8/19/2014 01:05:23 pm

i'm no expert on old Persian, but the cousins of the Medieval
Manticores, the Martyaxwars also go on all fours. Curiously
enough Chupacabras in the New World are said to be very
bipedal, and are almost as scary as the Manticores and the
Martyaxwars are said to be. I think Plato doubted their very
existence but Aristotle contradicted him, and then Alexander
took his army on a quest to find their lairs out of pure curiosity.
Alexander's quest ended in India, he had gone as far as he
could but had to turn back even more puzzled, upset and
confused. Should we blame this on Aristotle, the neat reason
he had to spin the Persian Empire of Darius into total confusion?

BillUSA
8/18/2014 09:04:25 pm

Long ago, I detected a pattern to the overall idealism of people who believe that we aren't able to make the world in which we live. That is - the technology and the advancement of our knowledge and ethics. I could be wrong but it seems as if they have a difficult time accepting that our fate is in our hands (and that of the extinction-level objects that lurk the cosmos) and that we are also responsible for the faults in our nature.

The emotional condition of religious folks strike me as being similar in that there is some force beyond our power which controls our destiny. As scientifically-minded as I am, and a somewhat spiritual person to boot, I reserve a place of ambivalence for religious people who are pursuing a life of doing the right things for the right reasons. Yet I have a hard time accepting the notion that humans are incapable of carving a niche for the proliferation of the species - including the ability to start fire and stack rocks.

I think some folks are endowed with minds which are inclined to feel that we are under a microscope of sorts - even the playthings of some almighty chess player. They require a concept which can provide them security or a means of constructing a fantastical realm which explains for them the nuts-and-bolts of our existence.

I'd love to know all the answers to it all. But I'm going through my day wrestling with what mainstream science accepts as being true, which is always a moving target. On the other hand, the UFO set needs something to nail down and defend to their very end.

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MartyR
8/24/2014 03:33:10 am

You might say, there are people who, as a child, saw an episode of the Twilight Zone and it stuck.

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Ronald W. Satz link
8/19/2014 06:27:09 am

Hey, EP, what's your real name? Jason uses his, and I use mine. I'd like to see exactly what you've accomplished, if anything, in your miserable little life. I am the author of 20 books, manuals, and commercial software programs, all available from www.amazon.com. Please tell us about your career, if you have one.

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EP
8/19/2014 06:41:13 am

You forgot to add: "I'm an object of universal mockery because of my absurd claims and scientific ignorance." That's what you're going to be remembered for in the unlikely case you're remembered at all.

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.
8/19/2014 06:52:48 am

RWS... i'm almost a customer!
i'll get around to checkin' things out!

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Name link
8/19/2014 08:36:49 am

http://www.amazon.com/Unmysterious-Universe-Ronald-W-Satz/dp/1880845008/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1408476856&sr=1-1


??????????????????????????????????????????????

Mark
8/19/2014 08:33:27 am

By the way, I replied to your last comment in the "Watch My New YouTube Video About Erich von Daniken's Most Racist Lines" thread. Sorry about the delay.

(And, if we're comparing credentials, I'm currently finishing a Ph.D. in mathematics. No professional publications yet, but I should have at least one by this time next year.)

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EP
8/19/2014 08:44:30 am

Cool! What's your specialization?

Mark
8/19/2014 08:46:23 am

Contact and symplectic topology. Are you in the sciences?

EP
8/19/2014 08:52:35 am

Humanities (I don't really want to say more so as not to become target of internet crazies). Math is more of a hobby, and I know pretty much nothing about your areas.

Watch Satz jump on me for not being a scientist like he is :)

Mark link
8/19/2014 10:30:14 am

Nice! I'm sort of in the inverse position; I'm a math guy, but history and philosophy are my hobbies.

EP
8/19/2014 10:47:45 am

Oh, is that your blog? It's all coming together now :)

You concentrate on the American atomic programs, is that correct?

Mark link
8/19/2014 10:52:46 am

Atomic Skies is my blog, yes. I focus on the American projects because it's easier to get documents on them, and, sadly, I'm monolingual. Heaven knows the Russians got up to just as much as we did back in the Weird Old Days...

EP
8/19/2014 10:59:55 am

Between the waves of declassified documents and the resurgence of interest in Russian Studies, language isn't nearly as much of a barrier as you'd imagine. (Not sure how much it is up your alley, but I particularly recommend looking into the Soviet lasers and space weapon programs. It is *hilarious*!) Also, check out "Stalin's Great Science" by Alexei Kojevnikov.

Mark link
8/19/2014 11:19:10 am

I'll pick that book up! Even if I can't use it in the blog, it sounds like a good read.

I'm really reluctant to write anything based solely on secondary sources, especially when it comes to Russia, because I've found in the past that English-language secondary sources on Russian nuclear history are not always reliable.

For example, I found a really great story about the Soviet Nuclear-Powered Aircraft program. Supposedly, they built a water-moderated test reactor for the project, but ran into problems due to bubbling in the moderator. They eventually discovered that they'd been shipped bouillon instead of deionized water. Great story, right? And it comes from a really good source, too: Red Atom, by Paul Josephson. Red Atom is an academic-level work, not pop-nonfic; it got good reviews; and it was based on Russian archives that the author had access to in the '90s. I'm really into nuclear-powered aircraft, East or West, and I really wanted to write about it.

So I looked up the citation for the story and got it through interlibrary loan. It's in Russian, obviously, so I can't read it, but I feed enough of it through Google translate to get the gist of it - and it's got nothing to do with the alleged story. It has nothing to do with the nuclear-powered airplane program, or bouillon, or anything about that.

Did Josephson make it up? Probably not. Was Josephson just mis-citing? Probably. I certainly want to think so; I liked his book. At worst, he might have been repeating a rumor or legend he heard as fact - some of his choices of phrasing make me think he wasn't 100% sure of the story. But how can I use that now?

And that's not the only example. It's happened over and over again. It happens with US projects, too, but there I can pop on over to the US government document servers - Science.gov or OpenNet or DTIC - and actually get the primary sources. I can't do that with Russia because, even if I can get the docs - and I frequently can, though it's much more time-consuming - I can't read them.

So that's why I mostly stick to US projects.

Mark L
8/20/2014 11:57:44 pm

Unless the IP address places him in this guy Satz's general location, I'd lay good money on this guy being a socko for one of Jason's regular readers.

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EP
8/21/2014 09:27:33 am

That would be quite an elaborate troll, then. He's been at it for a while, gradually becoming angrier and more ridiculous.

Ronald W. Satz link
8/19/2014 09:30:10 am

EP, you still haven't told us your real name. But at least you told us you're a humanities major! HaHaHaHaHa. LMAO.

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EP
8/19/2014 09:34:55 am

I don't know if you're the real RWS, but why would I tell you anything about me? I have no interest in impressing random delusional kooks with my credentials.

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.
8/19/2014 10:15:16 am

BINGO
GAME
SET (c)
MATCH
POINT

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. link
8/19/2014 05:15:50 pm

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/

i've been putting links like this
PBS one in the "website" box
to make them more interactive.
weebly is confusing. its like
retro-tech steampunk trying to
be more cutting edge than
cold fusion. it actually is a
small blog. humanities folks.
history types. drama? film?

EP
8/19/2014 05:35:28 pm

Weebly is designed for mentally competent people. You should take your troubles as a hint.

Clint Knapp
8/19/2014 04:42:30 pm

For a man who claims to have commercial computer programs on the market, I find it amusing you are entirely incapable of working a text box that creates hyperlinks. "[overlongURL] and [another overlongURL]" is not the proper format for the Website box on these comments. Anyone clicking your name just gets an invalid URL.

I suppose again, your faulty science has failed you. Now, will you please regale us with more of your sophomoric ranting about how much smarter you are than everyone else?

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EP
8/19/2014 05:01:34 pm

RWS: "Life forms from a combination of material and cosmic (inverse) atoms, with the cosmic atoms in control. Conventional biology does not explain the demarcation between life and non-life; the Reciprocal System does."

http://reciprocalsystem.guru/2013/01/30/review-and-critique-of-big-history/

Clint Knapp
8/19/2014 05:15:46 pm

I'm still waiting for him to address the fundamental problem of requiring an additional "metaphysical layer" to understand real physics before I read one more word of that tripe.

Until then I'm going to just assume invisible space elves run the universe and atomic power really comes from the happy thoughts of sentient uranium. It seems a much saner choice.

Frankly, EP, your capacity for putting up with that crap is amazing. Between Satz's ranting and the knuckle-draggers at Stormfront, I hope you're getting a good case study or two out of the effort.

EP
8/19/2014 05:31:04 pm

Sadly, neither is within my jurisdiction :)

You are also dead on about space elves. RWS is basically an adherent of some ridiculous combination of vitalism and panpsychism (at least now that he has "cosmic particles" "in control" of life and making neutrinos go faaaaast!).

Only Me
8/19/2014 05:40:37 pm

Clint, it's so obvious that nanognomes are responsible!

At the risk of sounding stupid, I thought biology and physics were separate fields. I don't recall a biologist trying to explain the fundamental laws of physics in biological terms, so why explain the origins of life in physics terms?

Of course, Ronald doesn't believe in the existence of electromagnetic radiation, neutron stars, black holes or the Big Bang, and he laughs at the ideas of strong force, weak force and dark matter. So, why should I, or anyone else, give any thought to his cosmic/inverse atoms?

.
8/19/2014 09:02:18 pm

no... its closer to an Aristotelian idea that all is motion
and the interface between matter and energy isn't. instead
all is increasing and decreasing degrees of a vibratory
rate. solids aren't solids anyway, they are often shells that
contain empty space. its as if liquids and gases are defined
are defined by their fluidity, and although we are empiricists
our senses create a 'lie" that has us living inside an inner
comfort zone. he sees reality being flux & volatility just short
of being a series of greater and lesser vortexes. this is like
the wave verses particle debate concerning light. its the words.

.
8/19/2014 09:11:22 pm

"its as if all liquids and gases when defined
are defined by their fluidity" pardon my wobbly
weebly typo. he's got different way of defining
his terms. he's trying to have another approach
than the one where john luis von neumann looks
at the quantum and tries to understand a biological
connectivity. he also is avoiding a cosmic creator
like thomas aquinas and his five ways but likes
the idea of a life energy that is pervasive and vital.
all is indeed a tapestry of degrees of energy states.

Clint Knapp
8/20/2014 01:38:33 am

I wonder... would these "cosmic particles" responsible for the "cosmic radiation" that gave the Fantastic Four their elementally-specific powers? In that case, his source must be Reed Richards- who we all know is the smartest man in the universe.

I eagerly await the revelation of the Negative Zone and the explanation for how passing through an N-Zone portal negates the destructive interaction of matter and anti-matter. I'll bring popcorn.

EP
8/19/2014 01:06:47 pm

@ Mark

The bouillon story sounded pretty awesome, so I looked up Josephson's book. He's not saying that "they'd been shipped bouillon instead of deionized water". He is reporting the conclusion of an expert who said that the water was foaming because they'd drawn it from a source polluted with waste from a meat processing plant. The organic matter was suposedly making it foam. ("Red Atom", p. 130)

Josephson cites two sources here. One of them Josephson cites for the general claim about the danger of the relevant type of reactors. (It's also been available in English since the late 1950s.)

The other one is harder to find, but if it's not the one you were looking at, it could well be the kind of thing where anecdotes such as this one are related. (It's in a research center's festschrift.)

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Mark link
8/19/2014 01:16:27 pm

Sorry, it's been a few years since I looked this up. I can't seem to find where I stashed my scan of the citation. I may not have kept it. <embarrassed>

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EP
8/19/2014 01:32:11 pm

If you only got one of the sources, I bet it was the one from 1958. The one from 1994 I cannot imagine any library actually carrying, so I doubt it's the one you were looking at. But that's the one where the bouillon story would be found, if anywhere.

The point is, Josephson is still innocent until proven guilty :)

Mark link
8/19/2014 02:06:44 pm

Well put! You're making me want to look into this again. : ) Honestly, I would prefer to discover that I had made a mistake, then that Josephson had - I really did like his book, especially the section on Atommash.

EP
8/19/2014 02:15:36 pm

On the other hand, it is at best an informal second-hand report of an episode from 40 years earlier. I also suspect that the source leaves it unclear whether this was originally meant as a joke. It could also be invented by the Josephson's source (that would totally be par for the course when Russian science is considered).

The important thing is that the original audience (of informed scientists) would not have found absurd the suggestion that high-end nuclear defense projects were using water from a polluted source.

Ronald W. Satz link
8/19/2014 01:34:34 pm

Hey, EP, you anonymous little humanities major: this proves that both conventional physics and the Reciprocal System are way, way, way beyond your feeble comprehension level. Oh, and by the way, the conventional physicists cannot even agree how to interpret Quantum Mechanics--they are so befuddled: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/02/07/quantum-mechanics-is-an-embarrassment/

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EP
8/19/2014 01:45:14 pm

@ Mark

As the resident mathematician, could you tell me what I'm looking at? Is Mathcad's marketing really this clueless? Or this desperate?

http://blogs.ptc.com/2012/04/12/uncovering-mysteries-with-mathcad-a-conversation-with-ronald-satz-ph-d/

The quotes are a bonus:

"My engineering work pays for my theoretical physics work with ISUS, not the government. Most of my time now is spent on working out the details of the Reciprocal System of theory, an alternative paradigm of the universe, rather than with solving engineering problems for my clients. I do make a point of making sure that the theoretical work is completely computational - this is what distinguishes the Reciprocal System from most other theories, which do not get down to the real nitty-gritty of material property calculations."

"Many scientists and engineers are unhappy with the irrationality of much of physical theory. Many doubt the big bang, black holes, the nuclear theory of the atom, neutron stars, dark matter, worm holes, etc."

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Mark link
8/19/2014 02:04:14 pm

Let me just say, first, the marketing department in any company is unlikely to be trained in math or science. And second, while Dr. Satz has some bizarre ideas about physics, his Transpower Corporation website does sell what appears to be legitimate decision support software written in MathCAD, in addition to his "Reciprocal System" stuff. (I say that not really knowing anything about decision support software, mind, but it does *look* legit to this completely untrained eye.)

Beyond that, unless Dr. Satz decides to answer the issues I raised in my last reply on the previous thread, I have decided to stop arguing with him. It appears unlikely to be a productive endeavor.

EP
8/19/2014 02:09:56 pm

The point isn't the quality of RWS's software (which for all I know could be great, though buyers should be aware that they are supporting RWS's Reciprocal follies). The point is that I can't see a company that provides scientific tools (I mean Mathcad, not RWS) want to say, in effect "Check out all the cool things you can do with Mathcad! You can even do bizarre pseudoscience with it!" They aren't the History Channel, after all... :)

Clint Knapp
8/19/2014 05:02:02 pm

This is just growing sadder and sadder by the day, Ronald. Is your confidence in your "science" really so low that you have to come to a blog that isn't about physics at all to pick fights with people you don't know and type out your laughter at their choice to pursue a line of education that isn't your own? Is it really necessary to resort to childish "I'm smarter than you because I said so and you can't possibly understand me because you suck!" rants?

Even if there was anything supportable to your theory, you destroy any credibility or serious attention it might gain when you act in such a manner.

Perhaps we should forgive you for being ignorant of these basic principals of social interaction, though. After all, you aren't a Humanities major and couldn't possibly be expected to know how real people act, right?

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EP
8/19/2014 05:04:27 pm

Careful, that's pretty much how "." explains why it's okay to insult and threaten people :)

Ronald W. Satz link
8/20/2014 01:36:20 pm

Clint, you make a valid point. I should not be wasting my time with people like EP, a humanities major. Thanks.

EP
8/20/2014 01:40:32 pm

I just want to point out that you assumed I'm a humanities major based on the fact that my academic work is in the humanities. As everyone should know, academics in the humanities come from a variety of educational backgrounds.

Not that I mind you calling me a humanities major. You invariably do so in the middle of a hilarious post.

Clint Knapp
8/20/2014 02:16:36 pm

Shhhh, EP! It worked! (maybe)

For the record, though I'm sure you meant Ronnie, I wasn't intending to suggest what your major might be. I just grabbed the Humanities category from what he lifted from your earlier post. Any reasonable person would recognize the wide range of Humanities studies... but hey, it's not Electrical Engineering, so it's nothing, right?

EP
8/20/2014 02:27:32 pm

Yeah, I meant RWS. I never made secret of the fact that I am an academic in the humanities. RWS's attacks are illustration of why I don't want to say anything more specific.

Clint Knapp
8/20/2014 04:08:42 pm

Quite understandable. It's all a moot point anyway since his own credentials are irrelevant when so much of his "theory" descends into metaphysics, philosophy and self-important blathering about the vastness of his own intelligence. There might have been a rational physicist in there once, but that guy died a long time ago.

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8/20/2014 02:58:12 am

EP --- when we get angry and exchange words,
it follows a pattern like ACKROYD and CURTAIN
did on POINT/COUNTERPOINT. classic SNL



Weekend Update with Jane Curtin & Dan Aykroyd

.....Jane Curtin
.....Dan Aykroyd
.....Garrett Morris


Announcer: And now, "Weekend Update", with the "Weekend Update" news team. Brought to you by Cruelex, the first men's grooming aid that promotes jock itch. Here are co-anchorpersons Jane Curtin and Dan Aykroyd.

Dan Aykroyd: Good evening. I'm Dave Aykroyd. [ cringes ]
Jane Curtin: And I'm Jean Curtin. Here now, the news.

Our top story tonight: Aldo Moro is alive. The well-being of the former Italian president was confirmed this week, when his subductress issued this photograph of Moro, holding Wednesday's paper. And, in a related story, "Weekend Update" has received proof of the well-being of another person feared dead - this photograph of former Teamster boss, Jimmy Hoffa, shown holding today's Daily News. Questioned as to his whereabouts all this time, Hoffa exclaimed that he had bee a regular on the "Lou Grant" TV series, and attributes his so-called disappearance to "low ratings".

House and Senate conferees finally reached an agreement yesterday on national gas pricing, a year and a day after President Carter unveiled his energy program. Energy Secretary James Schlessinger is encouraged, and says the only thing that got him through the last 12 months was watching the phenomenal success of his illegitimate son, comedian Steve Martin.

Believed to have been dead for the last five years, Lyndon Johnson, this week, gave a surprise visit to Jimmy Carter at the White House. Aging and white-haired, but looking remarkably fit, the former President said his death in 1973 was just a hoax. He then flew out to Missouri to visit Harry Truman.

Dan Aykroyd: Uh.. authorities have issued a marijuana alert, because.. uh.. in fact, much of it has been sprayed, under orders of the U.S. Health Department, with the deadly herbacide Paraquet. Uh.. an easy test is now available to find out whether or not marijuana does contain Paraquet. As a public service, we sent correspondent Garrett Morris.. uh.. uptown to.. uh.. see if.. uh.. we could get some dope, so we could show you how to test it. Uh.. you have the stuff?

Garrett Morris: Uh.. yeah..

Dan Aykroyd: Okay.. [ slips Garrett the money as the marijuana is slipped to him ] Here's some bread.. Now, please, in no way does this mean that we at "Weekend Update" advocate the smoking of arijuana. It's just that a survey shows that 90% of our viewers smoke it daily. So, it's for that minority that we're doing this test.. [ examines the bag of marijuana uncomfortably, turns to Garrett ] This looks really light..

Garrett Morris: No, man, it's cool.

Dan Aykroyd: It's light, give me the rest of the lid, man.

Garrett Morris: Look, it's clean, man.. no seeds, no stems, that's all.

Dan Aykroyd: It's light, it's under, it's under..

Garrett Morris: Man, I can't go back up there, man, okay? Those guys scare me.

Dan Aykroyd: I'm sorry, Garrett, but that's the third you've short-changed us. Everybody here's gonna get really mad..

Garrett Morris: Please, man, don't make me go back up there. They're gonna beat me up again, man, I know.. [ inches away from the Update desk ]

Dan Aykroyd: [ to the audience ] We'll show you that test later. You see, to perform it, you need a complete ounce. Not three-quarters or seven-eighths, but a complete ounce! Sorry to take up your time.

In New Delhi, the Indian Institute of Medicine has developed the world's first nasal spray contraceptive. Although theoretically effective, doctors won't be able to know conclusively until they find someone in India who practices nasal intercourse.

Dan Aykroyd: Tonight on "Point/Counterpoint", Jane and I will argue Federal Aid for Abortions. Jane will take the Point for Federal Aid, and I will take the Counterpoint against. Jane?
Jane Curtin: Safe abortions have always been available to the rich, Dan. You simply want to deny them to the poor, and if you succeed, poor woman will be forced to get them anyway. They'll be forced into the alleys with hangers, plungers and vacuum cleaners, risking death or mutilation. But you'd like that, wouldn't you, Dan, you sadistic, elitist, sexist, racist, anti-humanist pig!

Dan Aykroyd: Jane, you ignorant, misguided slut! Once again, you missed the point entirely. [ enraged ] Why should I pay hard-earned dollars so welfare tarts can have sex anytime they want, without regards to consequences? Haven't these bimbos heard of abstinence? I, myself, haven't had sex for two years - and I'm rich! Why should I foot the bill for killing unborn infants, anyway? I'll pay for something practical like sterilization - but abortions? Never! With one exception - if I had been around when your mother was having you, not only would I have paid for the abortion, but I would have performed it myself!

Jane Curtin: Thank you, Dan.

Dan Aykroyd: Uh.. recent

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8/20/2014 03:01:07 am

DISCLAIMER --- THIS IS NOT A REAL NEWS BULLETIN

Dan Aykroyd: Uh.. recent bulletin. This just in: Garrett Morris is dead. What appears to have been a drug-related incident, eight youths fatally shot the late "Update" correspondent at a mid-town playground. Another Paraquet-related death, Jane.

Jane Curtin: Hoping your news is good news. Good night, and have a pleasant tomorrow.

Announcer: "Weekend Update" is a presentation of "Saturday Night News". Keeping America informed for over a fiftieth of a century.



SNL Transcripts

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EP
8/20/2014 05:27:35 am

Um... sure, okay. Go away now.

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Bruce Fenton link
8/20/2014 01:58:06 pm

It is probably not worth mentioning as I don't expect a correction, but almost every 'quote' here has been edited by Jason to suit his points. Also most of his statements about me our false.

There is plenty enough strangeness in my actual statements, I am surprised he felt the need to lie about me at all or edit quotes.

I am not for a moment saying that I do not claim paranormal experiences related to the subjects mentioned but I would prefer to be attacked for them as I claim them to have happened.

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EP
8/20/2014 02:06:03 pm

Could you please list at least some of the false statements that have been made?

Also, are you saying Jason misquoted you, or just that Jason quoted you out of context? (Again, some examples would be nice.)

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Jason Colavito link
8/20/2014 02:16:03 pm

I am just as surprised. All of the quotations come directly from his interview, which is linked in the article. I'm happy to correct any errors, but each quotation is verbatim from the interview transcript. It seems to be a case of him not recognizing how other might read his words.

EP
8/20/2014 02:24:51 pm

For the record, quotations I used in my posts are also cut and pasted from the same interview transcript I'm assuming Jason used.

EP
8/20/2014 02:23:48 pm

Bruce, if you're still here, I would greatly appreciate you answering a few questions, which may help you avoid some criticism. For starters, what, exactly, do you mean by "concrete" and "fossil"?

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Bruce Fenton link
8/20/2014 10:02:33 pm

As far as I can tell, without chemical analysis being done,what I saw was a concrete. It is made from small stones around the size of a mobile phone, various shapes. Seemingly one type of stone. It is a very hard stone (not sandstone, limestone etc). The only thing joining the stones into a single solid mass appears to be the bones, they seem to be fused with the stones. I could not see any evidence of any other element involved. Some bone has 'melted' to impossible right angles between stones, with no sign of fractures or breaks. Whatever else I may be accused of, this is as accurate a description as I can give without mentioning aliens or giants or any theory. This is what it looks like. The bone has petrified/fossilised depending on how specific a term we should use. By this I mean it has become almost completely crystalline, it might be more correct to say the bone is petrified. The bone is not inside the rock in the sense we usually think of to mean a fossil. But no doubt being in the rock matrix (the concrete) is what prevented it from decomposing and allowed it to become petrified. In a sense then the material block is a strange kind of fossil artefact.

I think the images and samples will speak for themselves and my opinion and description will become irrelevant. Whatever it is I feel it is very interesting and as an avid fossil hunter in my youth it is unlike anything I have seen or heard of.

I hope that helps.

EP
8/20/2014 03:00:59 pm

Jason, remember how you were expressing concern that the Science Channel does business with a man who psychically travels through time and is visited by Greys? Well, here are some other things Mr. Fenton is into:

9/11 Mysticism: http://earth4all.net/11-11-phenomenon/

Dusturbance of Egyptian archaeological sites: http://earth4all.net/ancient-alien-skull-found-in-egyptian-burial-chamber/

Kirlian phtography: http://earth4all.net/science-of-the-light-body-and-human-aura-2/

Psychic research: http://earth4all.net/psychic-research/

Also, this: "Nikola Tesla, the unsung hero of science whom gave us such wonders as alternating current (imagine not having that!), was very interested in the Sun. Although a hard scientist he was also rather superstitious about numbers, and held the perhaps strange belief that the Sun and the Earth were dynamic living organisms. A belief held by many indigenous peoples of the America’s. I mention this because on some level I am left wondering if the Sun is either consciously or by unknown natural mechanisms communicating with the life forms that inhabit its sphere of influence."

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Tim
12/29/2014 08:27:44 am

The sun DOES communicate with the life forms that inhabit its sphere of influence. I'd go further and argue that the everything within its sphere of influence is a part of the sun. Without it, everything dies.

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Clint Knapp
8/20/2014 03:50:47 pm

Alright, this whole bone-mortar thing has been bugging me since the last article about it. It's just absurd enough that I knew I'd read it somewhere. Anyone familiar with the six-part Forgotten Realms series "War of the Spider Queen"?

I give you "Corpsehaven" from book six, Resurrection:

"Made from the heaped decay of thousands upon thousands of semi-sentient, magically preserved corpses, Corpsehaven's walls, floors and ceilings could have filled the cemeteries of a hundred cities. Bodies were the bricks of Inthracis's keep. He regarded himself as an artisan, a fleshmason who smashed and twisted the moaning forms into whatever contorted shape he needed. He was indiscriminate in his choice of materials; all manner of bodies had been pressed into the structure of his keep."

"Corpsehaven sat on a level ledge sculpted from the otherwise precipitously steep side of the Blood Rift's largest volcano, Calaas. It would not do for an unexpected landslide or volcanic spasm to send Inthracis's life's work skidding down the mountainside."

Now, the book itself doesn't give much in the way of dimensions where the denizens of Corpsehaven are concerned, and my fascination with D&D never really made it past a few FR books and certain Bioware games, so can only go by what I find in web reproductions of the Monstrous Manual, but Inthracis is an ultroloth- and therefore only about 6.5 feet tall. He does however count among his forces a number of other creatures ranging as high as 9 feet- certainly giants, particularly to the series' protagonists; a party of drow- average height around 5-6 feet.

I'd ask if Mr. Fenton has read the series, but why would he admit to such a thing? I can only say I find it amusing and yet another fun example of fiction presaging fringedom.

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EP
8/20/2014 04:16:41 pm

MUST! READ! Bruce Fenton on "Artifical Mounds":

http://earth4all.net/giant-artificial-mound-with-spiral-located-in-ecuador/

"The mound has a pretty smooth curve to it though forest makes it look a little uneven depending on the angle of view you have. It also seems fairly circular, though not perfectly so."

According to Fenton this, far from being a description of a completely unremarkable hill, is a "compelling anomaly"!

"There is no other ‘hill’ or raised area for several miles around it."

Compelling. Anomaly.

"some kind of land feature encroaches against one side and seem to have ‘flattened’ it somewhat. I can only assume this is a raised area of land, thus meant the builders had to allow for it."

Interestingly, Fenton fails to apply the same reasoning (here completely post hoc and irrelevant) below, when talking about the "spiraling pathway".

"here is the real evidence of artificiality... an ancient pathway spiraling up from the base to the top."

Fenton offers *zero* evidence that this pathway is ancient, or even that it's artificial. From what I can tell, it could just as well be a dried-up riverbed. It could also be a dried-up riverbed that's been trodden by humans (or animals) in the past. To reiterate: Fenton's main evidence that ancient humans(?) built a huge mound in the middle of nowhere is an undated landscape feature that may or may not be natural.

"Interestingly this has been made to be really quite steep, there seems no obvious reason why the path would not have spiraled gently around and around the mound to the top. Could it be that the geometry of this feature was important for some spiritual reason?"

Could it be that the geometry of the place was involved for some *engineering* reason? Like, maybe the pre-existent riverbed, or rocky soil, or this being the fastest way to get up with relatively little effort?

"This must have been an incredible engineering project for the ancient builders, involving digging and moving thousands of tons of soil."

I wonder if it occurred to Fenton that someone could have built a spiraling road to the top of a natural hill... Or that a smaller hill could have been made bigger...

"when debating artificiality of a landscape feature I think it is always sensible to look for additional signs of ancient landscaping or artificiality in the surrounds."

Kinda like it always makes sense to look for obvious things to fix in one's writes. More to the point, Fenton's claim is false. Rome wasn't built on artificial hills, however much evidence of construction is around them. Because people generally aren't masochistic.

"I found what appears to be a lake, but one with a almost perfect rectangular shape to it... just around 100 meters from the mound."

"Almost" perfect rectangularity is stretching it, but what's the evidence of the lake's artificiality? The artificiality of the mound? Anyone else see a problem here? (And "found" means "zoomed out".)

Oh, and Fenton's total evidence for these claims? Observing the mound from the distance and looking at some satellite photos. He never even set foot on the mound!

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Bruce Fenton link
8/20/2014 09:48:33 pm

Hi Jason (et al),

You won't be surprised if I do not intend to spend too much time here, I get enough flaming without hanging out on overtly hostile websites. That said I will just briefly highlight a few errors.

There are minor points not worth mentioning so I will highlight some of the more notable points.

The Science Channel did not hire me to investigate a 'bone castle' and none of us had heard anything about such a thing until we were shown the strange material, not far from the site we had come to explore and film. The target site was a ruined fort or temple made of normal stone blocks and mortar. The term 'bone castle' was used by the local historian, he mentioned this after we were all shown the strange bone-stone composite feature. He said he thought he had heard of such a story somewhere. I would be surprised if any of this aspect of the expedition is even mentioned on the show, as it had nothing to do with the remit of the production and was not clearly related to giant humans (maybe it is maybe it’s not). This bone-concrete was not part of the ruin we were there to film and was about five to ten minutes’ walk away into the forest.

I am certainly not a world expert on giants and I don't think anyone was labouring under that illusion. Experts had been contacted but for one reason or another could not, or did not want to, come along. I was asked to fill in simply because the production company happened to already be talking to me about the site in Ecuador I am researching (the so-called ‘lost city of giants’). They recognised I had at least some knowledge of the giants subject (more than them) and that I spoke English far better than the Georgian researchers. I would only state that I am an expert on the supernatural.

Next point there is absolutely no 'Channelling' involved in the information we discuss in our book regarding the Pleiadians. Certainly not what I and most people term Channelling to be. I have continually stated publicly that this is nothing to do with Channelling. My wife and I have both experienced the otherworldly Astral Time Travel phenomena and the accounts we share are taken directly from face to face meetings with these beings, literally face to face visual and audio containing meetings. Not involving physical travel but by means of some kind of altering of consciousness - assumedly they cause this to happen as it is not from any practice or chemical that we are using. The only other communication method occurred on three occasions where trance mediumship was involved, which is also distinct from channelling. I don't mind that you will be just as hostile to these claims, but as said I prefer to be attacked on my actual claims. What we are stating is in fact probably far harder for a sceptic to accept than is mere channelling. I would also add that I am not off seeing a medium, this is my wife and I, we are both psychics and mediums ourselves though it is debatable whether this phenomena has anything to do with that, more likely the Pleiadians orchestrate the events (we certainly have no more than speculation on how it works).

I did not say anything about having strong feelings to visit sites seen on the Ancient Aliens show so that I could see the remnants of the Mu culture. I said that I felt I should go to these three specific sites mentioned as a personal spiritual pilgrimage. That show did not even exist back then when this came about and I had never even heard of Mu at the time.
I do not say anything about anyone needing to be worried about Pleiadian children looking to be incarnated on Earth. If anything we should probably be more concerned about all the human children that will grow up to be human adults as it is humans wrecking this planet.

Regarding my 'medium friend' I would prefer you just call her my wife if that is all the same with you. We both have had hundreds of supernormal experiences and I would prefer not to have it sound as though I am somehow reliant on a 'medium friend' for my strange experiences. Most of which were happening long before we even met in January 2012, including many of those talked about in the book.

I did not say I died in the Reptilian ambush. In the experience the mother ship was destroyed but I was piloting a smaller ship towards Earth. Lucky old me. These smaller ships are portrayed on the glyphs in Kariong, Australia, should anyone be interested.

Regarding quotes from the interview transcript it is possible that the host of the show has written this out slightly incorrectly - he is not a native English speaker. One error for example is that I did not say that:
"I had a spontaneous mystical experience when I was online talking to somebody in a chatroom and the next thing I would literally be out of my body, flying over a jungle, seeing towards a stepped Mayan temple, a pyramid."

This wording suggests that I said I could do this any-time I was on a chat with a friend. This happened once and had nothing

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Bruce Fenton link
8/20/2014 10:08:08 pm

Continued....

nothing to do with my conscious volition. If however you still choose to believe somehow we both had this experience in the same moment due to a shared boredom fantasy that is your right of course. Probably if anyone is interested enough in my claims they should listen to the original interview and not rely on the transcript.

My last point is perhaps the most important, this is regarding your attack on the Unexplained Files. I was not on there to air any of my views about how you should think about reality. They wanted a native English speaker that had some knowledge of giants (having failed to get an expert on board). The remit was simply to have me talk about the physical and intellectual journey and the things we saw along the way. Essentially they wanted someone able to articulate the journey of discovery that our team was on but in a first person style. I was not there to talk about my book, my many strange experiences, how I feel the reality we live in functions or any other such thing you might be critical of. Don’t expect to hear the words Pleiadian or time-travel! I would actually be surprised if they in any way promote me or my work.

Whether they should announce everything about a guest host/guest team member’s personal background, I really can't say (especially when they are not being given a platform to freely preach from). I have never seen that done on any show I ever watched in my life and as such why should this be the only show to do so? Imagine this was a normal part of all the shows you watched on cable. Perhaps many of the speaker intro segments would be more interesting and more controversial than the shows themselves.

Whatever you may think of me I think you have made some big assumptions about the show in question and they are clearly wrong.

As said earlier my public statements about my own affairs are strange enough for the average person without needing any modification or additions. If you do correct your article that would be at least more accurate when it comes to others following up on your criticisms and wanting to also challenge me etc.

Last point, I stand by the Bone Concrete matter. I am 90% sure the material is created by unknown technology, there remains the outside possibility some kind of bizarre natural process did this such as a comet impact or other high energy event. Let’s see what testing tells us. If it’s nothing special I will let everyone know. At the very least it will interest all of us to see what these bones are from and how old they are. The Bone Castle is not an invention of mine and as I don't speak Georgian I have been unable to follow up. The historian told me he will have time in September to research this and see if he can find where he heard of such a thing. Maybe it is not really present in Georgian myth, I have no idea and have placed a little trust in him as the expert.

I don't know how tough the material really is, I was not up there hitting it with a hammer, but the stones were firmly in place and could not be simply pulled out by hand. Some bones are seemingly melted beyond recognition, other are not. There were bones that were in the mix that looked complete, they looked to be human, maybe they were from a human sized mammal. I will be sharing images and video at a later date. Possibly the show will air some footage of this stuff (they did a quick shoot of me talking about it whilst standing in front of it) but frankly they did not seem very interested in it as it was not part of the ruins we were there to film.

Hope some of that is helpful. I will endeavour to keep you provided with books and articles that lend themselves to further criticism.
P.s. For anyone else with questions for me on my actual claims I have no interest in arguing with uber sceptics on these subjects. I do continue to debate with open minded people, even open minded sceptics, in appropriate forums. I have been around long enough to recognise arguing with close minded sceptics is pointless and I have since given up. As a wise man once said, “Never try and teach a pig to sing, you only end up wasting your time and annoying the pig.”

Best regards

Bruce

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EP
8/20/2014 10:52:25 pm

"For anyone else with questions for me on my actual claims I have no interest in arguing with uber sceptics on these subjects. I do continue to debate with open minded people, even open minded sceptics, in appropriate forums. I have been around long enough to recognise arguing with close minded sceptics is pointless and I have since given up. As a wise man once said, “Never try and teach a pig to sing, you only end up wasting your time and annoying the pig.”"

That's quite condescending for a man who just admitted to being a mere talking head, there because the channel couldn't get a *real* expert. (Speaking of the channel, did someone ask you to write this? Did someone else proofread it? Because your posts in this thread lack your signature defects of style and grammatical errors.)

I'm suffering from insomina tonight, so I have no energy to check your claims. But I'm sure that once everyone else awake we'll be in better position to figure out who the pig is and whether it's a waste of time to annoy it. In the meantime, I suggest you read the comments in this thread and think about what's to come. Now would be the time to fix up some of the things on your website, or else your overseers may become unhappy. (I suggest you start by updating your wife's mainden name.)

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Mark L
8/21/2014 12:48:39 am

Thank you for being reasonable in your reply.

I have dreams all the time. Weird and wonderful things happen, I even get some wish-fulfilment in them. But I don't feel the need to make overarching theories of the universe out of the fact I once dreamed about hitting a home run in game 7 of a World Series while Jennifer Lawrence cheered me on from the sidelines.

My point is, Bruce, have you considered that that's all your psychic experiences are? Given they're exactly as testable and repeatable as the average dream, and exactly the same amount of testable evidence comes from, why make such a big thing out of it? I'm absolutely positive you didn't start this psychic journey from a neutral place - in other words, you wanted to see aliens, so therefore you see aliens.

Picasso is a good example to use here. His pictures wandered down many flights of fancy, but he did this from a backing in actually being able to draw reasonably closely to life. Why do so few "fringe" researchers get themselves a similar grounding in the scientific field they're interested in before exploring whatever weird and wonderful ideas are in their heads?

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Jason Colavito link
8/21/2014 06:07:45 am

I'm sorry I didn't label your wife as your wife. I was not aware of your domestic arrangements and did not want to guess.

Did I not understand the nuances of "trans-mediumship," your specific term? This is different than "channeling"? If so, how?

In regard to your Pleiades space ship experiences, you did not state in the interview that you were flying a different ship, but I'm happy to correct this.

I'm also happy to inform my readers that you are not an expert and that the Science Channel is wrong to feature you as an expert investigator on their program.

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.
8/21/2014 12:33:53 am

i keep on thinking of the shoulder blades and tusks of
mammoths being incorporated into huts at the end of
the last ice age. the way stones or shells can be added
to concrete springs to mind. the heat of a kiln can melt
even marble, some magma becomes extremely hot. if
there was a unique heat source, fossils in rocks would
melt. i assume there is a temperature that melts opal...

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EP
8/21/2014 12:49:44 am

Fuck it, I can’t sleep anyway. This is far from exhaustive. I’m not even touching the scientific merit of your claims.

“I am surprised he felt the need to lie about me at all or edit quotes.”

Note that to accuse someone of lying, isn’t the same thing as to accuse them of merely making errors. This is quite a serious accusation you’re making here.

“The Science Channel did not hire me to investigate a 'bone castle’…”

Jason never said they did. He said that they paid for your little adventure. You *are* plastering the internet with stories of bone castles because they paid for you to go there, aren’t you? Also, if you really believe the bone castle won’t make the cut, then I’m sure you don’t mind for Jason to wait until the show airs to make any changes.

“I am certainly not a world expert on giants and I don't think anyone was labouring under that illusion.”

This is the format of the show, isn’t it? The main talking head (you in this case) is the “guest expert”. Or am I wrong?

“I would only state that I am an expert on the supernatural.”

So if the show refers to you as an expert on giants or anything else other than the supernatural, are you on record as saying they would be misrepresenting you?

“there is absolutely no 'Channelling' involved in the information we discuss in our book regarding the Pleiadians. Certainly not what I and most people term Channelling to be.”

But in the interview, you say: “He [Pacal] literally had come into her and was talking to me asking if I needed to have any more information, cause at the time I was writing a book. I was having a direct conversation with him”

Yeah, sounds like channeling to me. If you insist on using the word in another sense, that’s fine. However, you can’t blame people for not following suit. But let us grant you for the sake of argument that you are correct in that you weren’t intending to claim “channeling” (in a certain specific sense of that term). However, there is nothing inappropriate about describing it as channeling in the broader, non-occult sense. It’s not really misleading unless we care about conveying the nuances of your fantastic nomenclature.

“What we are stating is in fact probably far harder for a sceptic to accept than is mere channelling.”

It’s about the same, actually.

“I did not say anything about having strong feelings to visit sites seen on the Ancient Aliens show so that I could see the remnants of the Mu culture.”

What Jason said is that you spoke of sites that also happen to have been featured on Ancient Aliens. Jason did not *quote* you as saying anything about Ancient Aliens. Ditto for “Mu culture”, though your interview gives no indication of whether you’d heard of that story at the time.

“I did not say I died in the Reptilian ambush. In the experience the mother ship was destroyed but I was piloting a smaller ship towards Earth.”

I don’t care enough to check. I hope Jason changes his post and explicitly mentions that this is what you insisted on clarifying.

“I would actually be surprised if they in any way promote me or my work.”

They are promoting your work every time they tell the viewers who you are and what you’ve done (like in captions). By doing so, they lend credibility to a man who claims… all the stuff you claim… and who thinks that hills are artificial for no reason… and that Tesla gave us alternating current… and…

“Whether they should announce everything about a guest host/guest team member’s personal background, I really can't say”

The point isn’t that they should announce “everything” (or any of it, really). The point is that they should avoid dealing with the likes of you in the first place.

“I think you have made some big assumptions about the show in question and they are clearly wrong.”

What assumptions? Can you give examples? Because you haven’t given any so far. Also, are you still claiming that Jason “chose to lie” about you?

“If you do correct your article that would be at least more accurate when it comes to others following up on your criticisms and wanting to also challenge me”

I don’t think you understand. No one’s really interested in challenging you. Like I said somewhere, you are basically the guy who sees Jesus in his toast, who also gets to role-play Indiana Jones. What’s interesting is that an organization with at least pretension to being scientifically themed (hence the name!) would involve itself with someone like you. Perhaps mocking you can get someone to notice or even care. In the meantime, keep getting high and talking to imaginary voices. Hope your wife still can support

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Jason Colavito link
8/21/2014 06:13:34 am

I pretty much agree with everything you wrote, EP. I'd just add that I'm not sure I understand the difference between "channeling" and "trans-mediumship," but if it makes him happy, I'll use the proper term for psychic possession by an ancient alien-human hybrid with hallucinogenic blood.

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EP
8/21/2014 08:41:55 am

Gotta keep dem hybrids happy. Remember what happened in Alen: Resurrection :)

.
8/21/2014 09:57:22 am

Classic late 1800s 'channeling' involves getting into a deep
trance state if the medium is being at all genuine and is not
a blatant fraud. Trans-mediumship as a term sounds more
recent, and like ill defined jargon, its too inclusive or not as
precise. Trans-mediumship assumes an equivilency to the
Victorian Aether lets our Ego and/or Super-Ego be receptive to
information. It also includes channeling. The Sixth sense etc...

Only Me
8/21/2014 04:22:50 pm

Knock yourself out, EP. Fenton's "response" was the most mewling, asinine load of boo hoo hoo I've had the displeasure to read.

Would someone like to give Fenton a shovel while he's digging? At this rate, he'll undoubtedly hit oil.

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EP
8/21/2014 04:39:03 pm

I really can't take reading more Fenton, unfortunately. Reading him actually makes me feel dumber. I just want to know whether any of this is the Science Channel's damage control.

EP
8/21/2014 09:14:59 am

As I suggested in the earlier thread, this is almost certainly the "bone castle" the referecne to which Fenton was too lazy and/or inept to properly follow up on:

http://www.geotrace.ge/index.php?a=main&pid=460&lang=eng

It took me about 5 minutes of googling to find. And I didn't have local historians to consult directly.

Bruce Fenton fails epically even by the AA theorist standards.

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http://atransc.org/theory/terms_m-z.htm link
8/21/2014 10:06:08 am

SOME "T" WORDs --- FROM THE LINK! THERE ARE MORE!

Trans-: Across, from there to here. Used here as across the interface from the greater reality to the physical aspect of reality. "Etheric" is used as shorthand to indicate the greater reality. All of these trans- terms can be used without the hyphen.
Transcommunication: A trans-etheric influence that is intended to be communication; trans-etheric communication. Not all trans-etheric influences are considered communication. Some, such as residual energy phenomena may simply happen without regard to who is experiencing the event. (The hyphen is not used because of convention.)
Ernst Senkowski coined the term, Instrumental TransCommunication or ITC, to describe meaningful anomalies including extraordinary voices, computer text, recorded images and images found on video displays suggestive of a continuance of life after death. (Because of common use in this field, terms with a "trans-" prefix can be used without the hyphen.) Note that After Death Communication (ADC) and mediumship should be considered subsets of transcommunication.
Trans-etheric: From the etheric aspect of reality to the physical aspect of reality.
Trans-etheric Communication: Exchange of information from the etheric to the physical aspects of reality. EVP or visual ITC, for instance.
Trans-etheric Influence: The impression of intention from the etheric to the physical. When an etheric personality communicates with a physical person or when a hauntings event occurs. A good definition might be: Information originated as a subtle energy influence on physical processes to produce objective information.
The terms, EVP and ITC have become cumbersome because of our growing understanding of these phenomena. A more correct term might be "Audio Trans-etheric Influence" and "Visual Trans-etheric Influence." Also Etheric-to-physical influence.
Transfiguration: Recognizable portrayals of discarnate persons are built over the medium’s features. This phenomenon usually takes place in dim light as ectoplasm is used to produce the transformation. In good subjects the ectoplasmic material can be seen during the forming process.
Transform EVP: In EVP/ITC, available physical energy is transformed into words or images. That is, the resulting voice has much the same frequency profile as the background noise. The physical process thought to be involved is stochastic amplification of a weak signal imposed via telekinetic intention. Although EVP are formed by EVPmaker, on close examination, most of the EVP are found to be transform EVP. Virtually all radio-sweep (also> known as "ghost boxes" or “spirit boxes") reported EVP, which are actually EVP, are transform. Transform EVP appears to require an analog stage in the circuitry which includes an active component such as a transistor. This is hypothetical.
Transition: A term used to describe the process of "dying" out of this physical aspect of reality (this lifetime) and returning to the more natural environment of the greater reality. Transition is a more accurate term for what is currently called "death."
Transportation: The supernormal transfer of human bodies through closed doors and over a distance. It is a mixture of levitation and apportation. This is a rare phenomenon, but there are cases that have been well authenticated.
Transposition of the Senses: A distinctive feature of some trance states where the senses of taste, sight, and smell can be experienced by the fingers, toes, ear lobes, forehead or pit of the stomach.
Trans-survival Hypothesis: A theoretical model designed to put current understanding about the continuation of personality after transition into a form that can be used to predict outcomes of future research. In effect, it is a theory intended to explain the nature of reality and personality's existence in it in a form that can be continuously refined.
Statement of the Trans-survival Hypothesis
(See The Trans-survival Hypothesis for a full explanation)
Top view: Reality exists as a field of energy which is differentiated by the influence of attention on an imagined outcome with the intention that it be so. This intention is expressed by personalities which associate with unique, imagined aspects of reality for the purpose of gaining understanding through experience.
Top view in other words: Etheric energy emanates from a source as a morphic (formative) field. The fundamental purpose is to understand the nature of this field. The field is punctuated by personalities (life fields, life fractals, etheric entities, people) which are expressions of this urge to understand.
The source field is differentiated into subfields according to the imagination of individual personalities. These aspects of reality are morphic fields expressed as venues for experience and subsequent learning, once formed, they continue and evolve so long as attention on them is maintained.
Personalities express aspects of themselves in venues for learn

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"T" words continued
8/21/2014 10:09:18 am

Personalities express aspects of themselves in venues for learning to gain specific understanding. Once expressed as individuals, these sub-personalities evolve according to the intended objectives expressed by their source personality. They eventually return understanding to their source personality, depending on their energetic agreement. See: Progression
At least for this physical venue for learning, personalities must be born into the venue in an entangled relationship with an evolved life form in an avatar relationship. According to the concept of energetic agreement, this entanglement is necessary for the expression of intentionality into the venue.
Prime personalities and their aspects cooperate as a collective. As increasing understanding evolves the energetic nature of personalities, they become more closely associated with their source personality. In this way, the rounds of aspectation are retraced, returning understanding to the source.
Trans-survival Researchers: This is Etheric Studies, which the study of etheric personality, its relationship with the physical, the greater reality and transcommunication.
Trumpet: A megaphone type instrument made of metal used for direct voice phenomena. The trumpet amplifies the voice. Voice phenomena without the trumpet are termed “independent voice.”
U
Universal Law: Principles that are necessary for the operation of this system of universes. They cannot be altered or done away with. All universal laws were created at the time of creation and are now in existence whether we have discovered them or not. Also known as Natural Law
Universal Mind: A collection of all of the knowledge, experience, principles and objects of reality, either animate or inanimate expressed as a coherent whole. Thought to be accessible as a source of knowledge. Sometimes referred to as the Mind of God, Divine Mine or Cosmic Consciousness.

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.
8/21/2014 10:12:00 am

CONCLUSION --- Trans-Mediumship is a new word

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EP
8/21/2014 03:15:14 pm

Jason, I believe there is more to the question of Fenton's expertise than he is now claiming. In his post above, Fenton says:

"I would only state that I am an expert on the supernatural."

and you changed your blog post accordingly. However, in the post that went up on Fenton's website the same day this blog post went up, Fenton says something different:

"I was already in talks with the production company at this time, regarding them using my information from the Ecuador Lost City of Giants, so they decided that it would be good to have me go along with the film crew as their expert on ancient mysteries"

http://earth4all.net/seeking-giant-bones-in-the-georgian-caucuses/

Note that this is sufficiently broad to include the ancient giants, yet isn't the same thing at all as being an expert on the supernatural. In any case, why the hell would the Science Channel even want an expert on the supernatural for a purportedly archaeological expedition? An expert on "ancient mysteries"? That's a whole another story!

Also, Fenton claims that he was picked, because they were interested in his research on ancient giants, to headline an expedition dedicated to ancient giants, yet that the Science Channel is not suggesting that he is an expert on ancient giants? Give me a break!

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